let's see
>better speech check system that isn't randomized and can be exploited through save scumming
>SPECIAL is now used in dialog checks
>skills are now used in dialog checks
>low intelligence actually has an impact on what you can say
>perks every other level lead to a much better and balanced progression
>perks are better balanced (Grim Reaper's Sprint nerf for example)
>much more perks
>better DLC overall (mothership zeta and operation anchorage are pure shit, OWB is the best there is)
>no repetitive tedious metro tunnels
>companions actually have personality
>companions all have sidequests
>better written main story
>branching main story
>faction system
>disguise system
>weapon mods
>ammo crafting
>more skills
>can make food, water and drugs with survival
>hardcore mode which enables several things that should be default like Stimpacks healing over time and ammo having weight
>more consistent game world and world building
>better shooting
>iron sights
>Jury Rigging
>better soundtrack
>melee weapons and unarmed are much more fleshed out
if you prefer 3 over NV you might be mentally retarded. The only concrete defense I see is "the experience is better" but that's completely subjective, ruined by the metro tunnels and doesn't matter when there's a complete wasteland 200 years after the bombs dropped which doesn't even make sense.
No shit
I'm not commenting out these points you make because I'm not autistic, but
>better speech check system that isn't randomized and can be exploited through save scumming
This barely matters, if you savescum its your own fault.
>perks every other level lead to a much better and balanced progression
Disagree. Perks can be balanced to be acquired every level and its usually better to have more things to choose when you level up.
>companions actually have personality
Too many shitty personalities though, like the dyke felicia day, the faggot doctor and the lolsorandumb super mutant tranny.
I agree with most of the rest and I don't think anyone actually considers FO3 better than FNV. FO4 is better at the gameplay department though.
>sequel is better than it's predecessor
Wow no shit. Next, you are going to tell me Vice City is shit because there's more things to do in San Andreas.
>>320748009
>sequel is better than it's predecessor
It's not a sequel, its a spin off, and sequels are rarely better than their originals.
I want to play FNV again but I'm too lazy to spend two days looking for mods. Is there a good mod pack out there that doesn't add too much dumb shit like anime hair and shit like that?
>>320747018
>OWB best
DM is far better
I fucked Red Lucy today.
It was a good fuck.
>>320747018
Someone sat down and typed all that out. Was it autism, or was it bait for the autistic fallout crowd. My bet is both.
>>320748263
Just get the following:
>quest mods (most are lore friendly)
>bug fixes
>JSawyer
>mods that restore cut content, or remove stupid content already in game (like the invisible walls, the preorder bonuses are not given to you straight away)
Everything else is entirely dependent on what you want out of it. I tend to go for things which expand on content or restore things I felt were needed in the vanilla game. I avoid anything that is immersion breaking.
Everything else is option
>>320748397
>that hand
A random optional side quest in New Vegas is more complicated than every quest in fallout 4 combined.
>>320748009
Then why isn't Fallout 4 better than NV you dumbshit.
>>320748340
>enjoying the worst gameplay experience of any modern Fallout
>thinking half decent companions can save it
>despite that still preferring it to the likes of OWB and Point Lookout
Top kek anon
>>320748912I let him do the speech with the fake human meat served
But he laterrun away, and it says you neer see him again
I should have killed him andGet the tophat? I wanted that top hat
>>320747746
>super mutant tranny
>grandmother equals transexual
>>320748912
Also at any time you can kill everyone involved in the quests to end the quest, or complete it depending on who you kill.
>>320747018
This thread will be shit on but I did enjoy new vegas more than fallout 3, in fact I dont plan to get 4 and just pray another new vegas type game is made.
>>320747746
But it doesn't fucking matter if there are too many shitty personalities companion-wise because you can only have two, and the companions I always get are the grandma nightkin and the cute robot that's basically bumblebee from transformers if he was a floating ball.
>>320748912
>beyond the beef
I can't ever seem to finish that quest without killing the white gloves
>>320747746
Lily was a old lady before the fev dumbass
A random side faction that you can completely avoid and don't run into unless you go out of your way has more detailed story than any of the main factions in 4.
Also you can murder the entire faction at any time if you want to.
Honestly the powder gangers are more fleshed out than any fallout 4 faction.
We know
>>320747018
>>low intelligence actually has an impact on what you can say
That only happens in like 2 quests or so.
Lonesome road was so short and impotent that zeta looked good. Hurr bear and bull and the divide. Not to mention we dont get to talk to ulysses about his tapes after getting them all.
>>320749246
Nigga I did it without killing them, I can be a white glove is I can now (Which I'll not do anyways[/spoiler]
>>320747018
While I agree with you on almost all of your points, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on the companions bit, at least a small bit. Nick and Curie were both extremely unique to the point where they felt like too strong of a character for the game. Maybe it's just me, but they stood out.
>>320749170
Quest: Banished from the institute
Objective: Return to the institute
>>320747018
Too bad NV is a buggy pile of shit.
>>320747018
I hated OWB because of the grating humor aimed at 13 year olds.
Some of it was cring-inducing reddit tier garbage.
I don't understand how you consider it the best
>>320749345
>the only good thing about New Vegas was the fact that they were allowed to use Bethesda's engine
This shit can't be real
>>320749390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XllttBJi98
>25 minutes of unique dialog
>only happens in like 2 quests or so
>>320749486
Oh shit I'm retarded. Never mind. I completely agree.
>>320747018
What is the point of this thread?
Is there ANYBODY on /v/, or AT ALL, who seriously considers 3 > NV?
>>320749398
? You can avoid fighting Ulysses when you get all his tapes.
>>320749606
Holy shit those graphics updates.
That looks better than Fallout 4.
I only ever played vanilla new vegas no mods or expansions.
>>320749606
>25 minutes
>slash funny dialogue
Compare to 1/2, where everything is different. Of course, they barely had any VA. Things were easier back then.
>>320749606
Lmao that video is legendary.
I never knew about all those low int responses.
>>320749783
still better than 4 and 3 where it's nonexistent
>>320747746
>Arcade and Lily
>Shitty
Fuck off
>>320749921
Ehh, I'd prefer consistency probably. I mean, I agree with most other points, I just don't think that one is a good one.
>>320750010
>Arcade
>anything but the worst humanoid companion
>>320749703
You'd be surprised. Some of the faggots here and a lot of faggots on Leddit think so, and will even argue straight into hell about it.
>>320750230
>your opinion
>anything but the objectively wrongest one in this thread
>>320750230
>Arcade is the worst
>in a game with Felicia Day as a companion
Fuck off
>>320750565
That's not /v/. The main disagreement here is OWB vs DM.
>>320750645
honestly didn't even know she was voiced by Felicia Day until today lol
>>320748912
lol I do like the optional side quest for the poweder ganger where you can kill the guy or talk him away. really deep and complicated stuff.
>>320750742
if you consider DM to be the best of anything just go die
worst gameplay experience of last gen
>>320750794
>Hate shitposters
>>320750742
>>320749703
>or AT ALL, who seriously considers 3 > NV?
>>320750834
Too intense for you? Too much skill needed to prevent your head from exploding?
>>320750794
So like all FO4 quests? Except the talking part.
>>320751023
>skill needed to prevent your head from exploding
oh fuck right off
>>320751080
I take that as a yes.
>>320749345
>Which isn't saying much as they had years to make it
>years
I can't believe I share H20 with these people
>>320750946
Or the quest right at goodspring where you cant make the whole town force the merchant to giving them equipments because you have 1 barter less than what balance man deem acceptable.
Or the quest
Thread needs more lottery winners.
>>320751173
no, it's artificial difficulty and on top of that not fun and an antithesis of everything that makes modern Fallout gameplay remotely enjoyable
add in the fact that the DLC almost railroads you in to using melee or unarmed and the fact that the writing isn't anything particularly special... no it's shit. There's a reason it's the worst received Fallout DLC. If you want a fanbase that loves feeling superior to people for beating something go play the Souls games, at least those actually have well designed gameplay.
Dead Money is putrid shit.
>>320751056
FO4 has the same talking part :^)
>>320750230
Jesus Christ anon what is wrong with you
>>320751416
every npcs are programmed to feel pain, just try crippling their limbs.
>>320751512
Where? Done almost every single quest except the one for legendary baseball bat.
>>320751416
lol
>>320751646
That only happens in F4 where you can literally turn them into quadruple amputees without killing them
>>320749373
Don't be an idiot. The main quest will introduce you to all factions, give or take a few depending on your faction.
>>320752072
um, have you ever crippled the legs of enemies in NV or 3... ever?
pretty sure the caption in the Webm was a joke
>>320752180
you didn't read his post
>>320751440
>railroads you in to using melee or unarme
I scraped by with various guns for a bit, but eventually you'll have enough chips to keep the police pistol loaded. Then if you gamble at the casino you won't want for chips at all.
>>320752325
There are no random side factions in Vegas unless you're actively ignoring shit.
>>320751826
The tutorial quests :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDjyHFtcJG8
>>320752431
but there's no reason to use the police pistol or automatic rifle compared to the bear trap fist. The ghosts only die from dismemberment which the bear trap fist does by default usually, and the police pistol does shit damage and the ghosts don't take any extra damage to the head.
>>320748162
*ahem*
>>320748846
you should see how feet look in the game lmao
>>320752072
>blow up deathclaw legs than anal fisting him to death
it could've been AAA Hatred, why Todd, why?
>>320747018
Fallout New Vegas had a bad story with bad characters such as Benny. Fallout 3's story fits well with the setting and draws the player into the narrative better than New Vegas did
>>320753293
>Fallout NV had a bad story
>Fallout 3 draws the player better
NV isn't bad, but Fallout 3 IS SHIT
the only reason you see Fallout 3 draws the player in better is because its more streamlined and linear
>>320749345
you should see all the people making fun of this guy. Calling him a nerd and to get a life. Their best argument is "Who cares. It's just a game"
That's what these people are. Some of them are even on /v/. You've probably seen them.
>>320753293
Fuck off Todd
>>320749592
did you beat it?
>Fallout New Vegas
>You craft how the Mojave ends up and the aftermath of your contact with the factions there
>Fallout 4
>4 endings
>All have the same voice over with just different images>No Ron Perlman
>>320753293
if by draws the player into the narrative better you mean RAILROADS THE PLAYER IN TO A NARRATIVE THAT ISN'T EVEN WELL WRITTEN then sure
>>320747018
ur dum lol
>>320751440
You get a code for free ammunition like 3 minutes into the dlc.
I, for one, enjoyed the settings and the brutal difficulty that came from losing your equipment and being forced to scavenge again.
>>320753565
Fuck Pete Hines.
gets BTFO and then basically tells the dude to get a life
>>320752695
the police pistol has bonus critical damage doesn't it? well that counts for something. also couldn't you just craft satchel charges if you had LR DLC?
>>320753565
People don't understand that suspension of disbelief doesn't mean you can do ANYTHING in fiction. Remaining internally consistent is what allows it in the first place.
>>320753513
It's more personal because it is your dad.
In New Vegas you pursue a guy who shot you. This is ridiculous because it's a whole world of people shooting at you, but you obsess over one fucking guy doing it
>>320752695
Just shoot them in the head while they lie on the ground. Boom, no more head, no more ghost person. BAR just rips them apart with its stupidly huge damage.
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED
>>320753915
Tl;dr
>>320753669
>You craft how the Mojave ends up and the aftermath of your contact with the factions there
there is no post game, dum dum.
fo4 actually has one.
>>320754001
oh you're trolling
>>320747018
>perks are better balanced
>Jury Rigging
>>320754001
>new vegas
>got shot by a rich dangerous dude
>while delivering shit for another possibly rich and dangerous dude
>no escape the mojave objective
shit game desu
>>320754027
Why are you posting this?
No one disagrees that the end of FO3 was stupid as fuck and only redeemed with Broken Steel.
I never once heard someone argue that the ending in the vanilla game is at all good.
>>320750645
>>320747746
>people are still triggered about Felicia Day
Veronica was one of the better companions in the game and it seems like the only reason people bitch about her is that she's voiced by felicia day and happens to be a lesbian.
>>320754126
I'm honestly not sure what you mean to imply with that post
Fallout NV has a proper ending like how most of the Fallouts do, mainly because your actions would probably have far reaching consequences that the games can't properly show after the ending
Fallout 4 continuing after the ending and all the settlements raising a little flag of the faction you chose is just proof of how little involvement the story has on the world
>>320754001
>It's more personal because it is Liam Neeson
Fixed.
Seriously, that's all your Dad has going character wise. New Vegas would have hooked people if Danny DeVito played Benny or some shit.
>>320754350
>it seems like the only reason people bitch about her is that she's voiced by felicia day
Also pretty much nobody ever complained about that until like a year ago. Most of the time it was like "Oh, I don't like her other stuff but she was good in this".
>>320754350
>happens to be a lesbian
>>320754350
thank you anon
>>320754459
...Benny was played by that guy from Friends.
>>320754350
I didn't even realize it was Felicia Day because Veronica wasn't a meek little nerd.
>>320754580
>>320754459
Matthew Perry is Benny's actor
>>320751345
Buy or find a magazine. Goodsprings is a good starting point. It really lets the player know what they're in for.
>[CHR 10] Skip Gameplay
Why do westaboos think this is a good thing?
>>320754313
Just letting people know that YOU HAD TO BUY THE DLC TO GET THE BETTER ENDING.
YOU HAD TO PAY BETHESDA TO FIX THEIR MISTAKE.
>>320754580
>>320754668
Matthew perry was pretty bad though
>smooth moves like smooth little babies
>>320754668
>Matthew Perry
Does he have fans or something
>>320754795
Just going to ignore that the DLC also had a new region and a few hours of content?
Its not like you're ONLY paying for the ending to not be shit.
>>320754849
>not liking Benny
>>320754098
>reading is hard
>>320754861
Does Liam Neeson? He played a Batman antagonist in the most boring movie of grimdark trilogy (not the worst though), a boring Jedi in the most boring SW prequel movie (and also probably the worst one) and in some really trashy action movies.
Oh, and there was that one movie with wolves I've been meaning to see.
Do you think the modding community will find a way to incorporate Fallout 4's armor systems into Fallout 3 and New Vegas? What about settlements?
>>320747018
>being this much of an eleitist
yeah, in the grand scheme NV is likely a better game, but why does that matter? The nature of RPG's is that they tend to be less fun an subsequent playthroughs and im pretty sure most of us have played NV to death that this point.
So at that point of course Fallout 4 is going to seem better because its new and fresh and you are able to get that feeling of discovery again. Its the same reason peopel go out and watch new movies rather than sit aroundand watch casablanca or citizen kane over and over again. Objective quality is often trumped by the newness of an experience when it comes to enjoyability.
Only reason why new Vegas had so much content is that was basically one graphics glitch away from a text adventure.
>>320755045
His one good film was Schindler's List, the rest are either lame or are meme trash like Taken.
>>320754884
>OH SHIT WE GOTTA THINK OF A WAY TO SELL MORE DLC BUT OUR PROTAGONIST IS DEAD
>NO HE'S NOT
>WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?
>WHAT IF WE COULD GIVE THE PLAYER THE OPTION TO SEND SOMEONE ELSE IN. SOMEONE IMMUNE TO RADIATION?
>ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED. THAT WOULD NEVER WORK. THIS IS THE HERO'S JOURNEY.
>OR WE COULD JUST MAKE THE DLC TAKE PLACE BEFORE THE FINAL ENDING OF THE GAME?
>>320755045
Still beats Friends being the peak of your career
>>320747018
they're both super boring either way
>>320755045
Star wars you retard.
>>320755146
Settlements are based on a FO3 mod that has been in works for ages.
You can't add armor attach points to meshes without making brand new meshes, which I doubt anyone will bother with.
>>320755207
I forgot he even was in that.
>>320755248
I guess. At least Perry voiced an actually good Fallout game, so it evens it out a bit!
DID SOMEONE SAY VOICE-ACTING?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fBFZxztVuc
>>320754994
Well, it does make sense then if he prefers Fallout 3.
>>320755314
I see reading is not one of your strong points.
>>320754454
>You craft how the Mojave ends up and the aftermath of your contact with the factions there
and one of them will be canonised in new vegas 2 if it exists. just like fallout 2 to 1. Meanwhile Todd must keep the post game in mind when designing the dlcs so simplyfing some elements are fitting.
>>320755248
Friends is world famous though
Lads playing fallout 4 and I can't find any t51 power armour. Are there any guaranteed locations that font spawn any other armour?
>>320748397
>swn call you her hunter as she aggressively rides you
>>320755045
>Taken
>Darkman
>The Grey
>Schindler's List
>>320755524
just console it. who fucking care. your starting pa is more than enough to beat the game.
>>320755557
Darkman was actually pretty fun.
>>320755045
I like Neesons voice.
He does tend to do shitty action movies though, but I think he gets sucked into it due to how he sounds, and his angry face being perfect for a villain.
Its like Steve Blum. Guy is ALWAYS killed in anything hes in simply because he has a good 'oh shit I'm dying' face.
>>320755524
If you're too high for it to spawn anymore the Atom Cats might still sell it.
>>320755524
Coc qasmoke
>>320755623
I'm collecting
Also I'm not on pc ;_;
>>320755850
Sell the game, the console, find a job and buy a pc before goty edition hit next year
but the world is shit compared to FO4
>>320755656
>Steve Blum
Did you perhaps mean Sean Bean?
Steve Blum does not do any actual acting, so his face is irrelevant.
>>320747018
>it is incredibly important that people agree with me on the internet
Grow up.
>>320755379
Fucking rekt
>>320747018
all those points are basically one: "better roleplay".
Fallout 4 is "better graphics and mechanics".
4 > NV
>>320756071
I still prefer no gf to going through raiders and super mutants for a french robot.
>>320756282
>roleplaying isnt the central mechanic thematically in a role playing game.
>>320756071
they took this same approach in 4. Also written by the same guys that did 3.
>>320754001
>In New Vegas you pursue a guy who shot you. This is ridiculous because it's a whole world of people shooting at you, but you obsess over one fucking guy doing it
Well not only did he shoot you in the face, but he also took something from you, which was probably important.
Who cares if its more personal, doesn't make a shit story good
>>320756427
> role playing game
you mean 'action rpg"
>>320756282
Fallout 4 is not an RPG
>>320756642
you mean "action game with rpg elements"?
>>320756530
For as much as people bitch about the flimsy excuse for BoS/Super Mutants/etc. etc. to appear in a location that they shouldn't, I'm sure many more people would be much more upset if they were not present at all.
>>320756282
>>320756642
>RPG
>ROLE PLAYING game
Also crafting mechanic is shit and easily outdone by any mmoor previous installment of falloutand that's the only new thing
They actually took out mechanics from New Vegas like food production and karma, so your argument is literally grafix
Is it possible to change the level cap in Sawyer's mod? It bothers me that you end on an odd level, and miss out on picking a perk when you cap out.
Or are there other mods that do all the item and alignment changes Sawyer does but are compatible with PN Rebalance?
>>320755352
I love this video
>friends
>fiends
Bravo obsidian
>>320756936
>cooking
still there
>karma
stupid shit to shove in a world of "grey moral and ambiguous choices" from fallout 1.
>crafting outdone by mmo
so does new vegas crafting. a good thing because mmo is grind for resource and skill for gears to grind again, not "what should i do with these resource"
>>320756936
>or previous installment of fallout
just not true. You're basically saying "no crafting system is better than a Fo4".
>>320748949
Fallout 4 is infinitely better.
>Actually has dungeons
>No copy-pasted shacks
>Improved weapon mod system
>more food
>more difficult
>More companions
>more interesting companions
>Quests have depth, no "go down the road and kill ants" bullshit.
>better gameplay overall
>settlement building
>better music
>more content
>No faggots shoved into the game
>morally grey factions, no blatantly evil factions like the Legion
>longer dungeons
>junk items are actually useful
>respawning locations (more replayability)
>less retarded AI
>better graphics
>melee no longer OP
>ammo harder to come by
>kill-moves
>voiced protagonist
>>320748912
7 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSJ1jfRVX14
>>320748912
>Fallout 4 has even LESS quests than 3
What the FUCK
>>320756530
I like the explanation in that pic. Sums up everything wrong with every Beth game afteroblivion.
In Fo3 you have:
- city built around a radioactive bomb (using airplane parts, why not just use the airport ruins)
- city built inside a giant ship (makes logical sense, but fuck it was impleteled badly. There are almost no civilians in rivet city and the hangar isn't large enough for airplanes)
- city built inside the pentagon (which, in theory, should be a crater)
- city built way up on top of a freeway overpass (there's no water or ability to grow food up there)
- water purifier built into the jefferson memorial (doesn't make any sense, especially when there's a water plant further north up the river, just south of the freeway overpass)
Fo4 is marginally better in this regard, as the Minutemen's headquarters is a generic suburb (Sanctuary), the RR underneath a ruined church (though how they got their original HQ, a DISA office, makes no sense), the BoS an airship docked at an airport, and CIT underneath CIT. What doesn't make sense though is all the actual lore (especially everything behind CIT) that attempts to try to tie it all together.
>>320756936
Karma is subjective.
It makes a lot more sense to have companions dislike actions than have some magical unseen force deciding what you're doing is bad.
I actually really liked how the handled it in a way that does not involve some sort of background counter or score system, and instead made it feel more natural.
>>320757331
>>Quests have depth, no "go down the road and kill ants" bullshit.
there are ant enforcer, ant suicider and ant skirmisher now. good stuff.
>>320749703
that's the difference between this thread and fallout 4.
even if there aren't many of them, this thread takes into account the people with 1 intelligence.
>>320757375
Literally the only quests I can remember are Silver Shroud and the U.S.S Constitution, the latter not even being that good
>>320757375
it actually has infinite quests :^)
>>320754475
fucking this. until recently everybody was fine with her
>>320748912
Well, yeah, Obsidian has god tier writers, while Bethesda's are worse than shit tier
>>320757426
Nobody gives a shit about karma unless you are a jesus.
Reputation was one of the nv's best things
>>320757331
the only good thing about Fallout 4 is that it shows the capabilities of what Obsidian can improve
>>320757421
>city built around a radioactive bomb
they don't know there is radiation near the bomb, and there is probably no water near the airport ruins.
>city built way up on top of a freeway overpass (there's no water or ability to grow food up there
trading, perhaps.
>>320757770
There's no water near the bomb either.
>>320757702
>obshit after july 2015
>god tier writer
>>320757770
ITS A FUCKING A BOMB YOU NIGLET
and nutjob childrwn surely know about radiation
>>320757770
There is literally no way to justify Megaton
>>320757848
>current year
NV came out in 2010 so it doesn't really mater
>>320757827
There is a small bond of pisswater
>>320757936
's cool
>>320757770
You're probably one of the people who will try to justify that kid trapped in a fridge for 200 years
>>320757770
>they don't know there is radiation near the bomb
so, they wouldn't notice themselves slowly dying? True, but regardless the original survivors would know what a bomb looked like.
>and there is probably no water near the airport ruins.
they are technically in the airport ruins, it's just that beth didn't add any airport stuff besides jet engines on megaton's front door
>trading, perhaps.
Arefu is a dead end. It's actually a huge pain to get up there. Lots of security, but also no water access. And you're a very good target for snipers.
>>320756983
pretty sure there's a compatibility patch for PN and JSawyer
I mean shit I'm using it
>>320757770
>trading
And they would provide what, exactly?
>>320757770
actually it would make sense that everyone doesn't know the bomb is radioactive. Every single person in the east coast is retarded.
>>320757827
near the bomb, there is. Not only that, they have one building for producing water. Probably underground.
>>320757929
knowing about radiation, and knowing an inactive bomb have radiation are two different things
>>320757936
it has water.
>>320747018
Personally would love it if high intelligence and very low intelligence had a chance to pass checks.
Making the idiot savant perk the funtime perk
>>320757848
Sawyer is a better writer than Avellone
>>320758031
Why contain it?
>>320757421
The second main quest in Fallout 4 is you taking the MM from a literal themepark (the museum of history in concord) to sanctuary. What I don't get, is why they don't stay in the MoH even though it's more secure than sanctuary, and Concord has water access (you can go into the sewers, the door to them is easy to miss). Concord itself always stuck me as strange because like Nahant it's an actual city but nobody seems to live in it for some reason, even though it would be easy to defend (by walling off the streets).
>>320758184
engine limitation
>>320756093
Maybe.
I'm not good with names.
>Obsidian will never get Gonzalez, Avellone and Mitsoda together
>>320757702
the lead writer guy is John Gonzalez
Is Willow a shitty companion? People say she's great, but she seems too forced. I don't trust anyone I can't fire.
>>320758029
Where did this small puddle come from? It doesn't rain in DC. Is it literally piss?
>>320758460
She's shit
The best companion mods are Sunny, Marcus and Ulysses
>>320758037
..retcon?
>they wouldn't notice themselves slowly dying?
more likely, they wouldn't get That close to the bomb all the time so they wouldn't die. I'm not saying drinking that water is the best option, but it is an option atleast.
>>320758068
>And they would provide what, exactly?
a good position for trading?
>>320755248
Friends is literally the biggest sitcom of all time
>>320758460
she's fucking awful unless you're into that waifu shit. Most companion mods are terrible, I like Russel but that's about it
Since we're talking about Fallout New Vegas I guess it would be appropriate to talk about the Lead Designer. What do you guys think of him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l2chWLlfFI
>>320758956
not him but thanks i was wondering about companion mods too.
I hate waifufags and I think they are a cancer killing RPGs.
>>320758991
is this your first time in a fallout thread or something?
We've been arguing about this for FIVE FUCKING YEARS.
>>320758991
He has autism and he loved fallout
I like him
>>320759108
they're the cancer that killed /tesg/ and are now working on /fog/ but that's about it. Don't give them that much credit
>>320758991
Sawyer's the man
>>320752574
I have never done that quest and I have completed the game with every faction.
>>320758084
i guess we already talked about how that pic related doesn't make sense.
>>320759196
where is the homo rape, Josh?
Fucking misogynist cisscum
>>320747018
>>perks every other level lead to a much better and balanced progression
>perks are better balanced (Grim Reaper's Sprint nerf for example)
Cowboy was a straight up boost to most weapons that are actually useful
Rapid fire weapons with low DAM were useless as fuck due to DR
>>hardcore mode which enables several things that should be default like Stimpacks healing over time and ammo having weight
Hardcore mode is also trivialized by allowing fast travel still and food still healing is dumb.
>better shooting
It was just as shitty as FO3's
>Jury RiggingFelt kind of something everyone had to get to be honest, it was just that good
>Disguise system
Very half assed. Same for a lot of the faction stuff outside of their questlines.NV is infinitely better than FO3, I'm mostly just griping about things I wish were handled better
>>320755146
There's a mod called Tailor Maid that lets you equip armor pieces onto a base.
>>320759497
Yes Man, at the very least, makes you visit nearly every side faction. If you chose to slaughter or ignore them, of course you don't get their quest. Exceptions being the Powder Gangers, who are shoved in your face at the beginning, and the Kings, who the NCR make you deal with. The Followers might be the only one the main quest will never direct you at, but it's likely you'll run into them on your way to Vegas or doing the Kings shit.
>>320759839
>Rapid fire weapons with low DAM were useless as fuck due to DR
>He's never mulched through fucking everything using 10mm plinking round SMGs
>>320759839
>Rapid fire weapons with low DAM were useless as fuck due to DR
a lot of common threats don't have DT (hi cazadores)
also AP ammo existed
>>320751440
God, yes. I hated Dead Money with such a passion. It felt very linear, the environment was unappealing - which is an achievement for a Fallout game. The enemies there were just, annoying.
>>320760047
The SMGs were satisfying as fuck aside from the Tommy Gun (In my opinion) though I must admit revolvers is much more satisfying.
>>320759839
i actually like equipment durability decay.
i think Jury Rigging should be removed and I think I have an alternative to that.
You create a single Repair Kit and it's an item that has no weight and is now a multiple use item. You add miscellaneous items in the repair kit and this fills up a meter and you use the kit on your weapons and armor.
>>320751440
>the writing isn't particularly special
Really? I thought the whole theme of letting go and how if you don't it'll kill you was superb
>>320758956
Do you use the Bounty Hunter mod alongside Russel?
>>320760663
I use all of someguy's mods. Best NV modder there is as far as I'm concerned
>>320758567
Too bad the person that did the Sunny mod didn't go as far as the Fallout 3 modder who hired the original actress to expand on the treasure hunter npc.
>>320760763
who is this NPC?
>>320760612
>You add miscellaneous items in the repair kit and this fills up a meter and you use the kit on your weapons and
That's actually great idea for mod tho.
>>320749129
>attack him while he's running away
>kill him before he escapes
Not hard senpai
Quick, claim your raifu. Or any weaponfu, we don't discriminate here.
What bothers me is that the great war was fought over oil, but fucking robots use some sort of fuel both to fly and as flamethrower. And there is flamer fuel everywhere. I don't know maybe they make that fuel some other way.
>>320760878
Sydney.
>>320761256
HOLORIFLE IS GOD AND I AM ITS PROPHET
>>320761290
stole from the army.
>>320760612
I just used the realistic repair mod.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34898/?
It comes with multi use repair kits. Also having a wrench boosts the repair.
>>320760047
>>320760272
I just didn't think AP rounds did enough.
It probably doesn't help that rifles and such broke through DR like nothing too.
>>320761446
>stole from the army
but that was dumb why would army use fuel for weaponry rather then for transportation
>>320761616
-15 DT is enough for everything but the heaviest armour users. 5mm AP actually has -25DT modifier, even.
>>320761616
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/43557/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/54490/?
Use one of the Signature Weapon mods to pump up their killing power?
>>320751440
depends when you go through it. Going through it early makes it easier and a quick adventure. Going through it later makes enemies huge sponges and is super fucking annoying. I generally didn't enjoy it either way though.
It also heavily caters to certain builds making it really easy or hard depending on that as well.
>>320761979
What level do you recommend?
>>320761979
>Going through it early makes it easier and a quick adventure.
Hah, I guess that's why I found it pretty easy.
>>320758956
>>320760663
>>320760759
While Russell is one of Someguy's best legitimate mods, his best companion mod is actually pic related, and you cannot deny this.Also, Someguy is the best mod writer and designer, but otherwise I have to hand it to Hitman. Holy fucking shit, he's made New Vegas a much more visually appreciable game and ammo/condition checking is one of the best 'simple' mods around.
>>320761640
They didnt use flamer at war but still keep them in storage maybe.
>>320761616
At average -15 to -20 DT, AP rounds are fucking great for everything short of power armor enemies (Which you fight at most one faction of once in base game) and I THINK high level Deathclaws, but I don't remember if that's due to a mod or not.
That's the bgi thing with NV, alternate round times are in most cases BETTER than their base types in every way - HP rounds can fuck up just about everything with singleshot guns and AP rounds are great for automatic weapons.
I try not to go autistic over people who prefer 3 but I'll never understand it, in my eyes NV is just a better version of that game
>>320761861
>Balanced
I used the OP as shit Sweet Revenge as a Signature Weapon on modded Very Hard and it's still pretty goddamn balanced compared to the shit that'll usually one-shot me.
>>320761290
>>320761446
>>320761640
It makes more sense if you remember the original bits of lore from Fo1. Basically, preceding the great war was also plauges going around killing everyone. This resulted in a hugely increased demand for automation, most bots running off uranium (or batteries). However, the regular person still had gas powered cars (the common fusion ones is beth's shit writing), so when oil prices spiked the economy collapsed even harder.
Anyway, at the end of it the military had nicer tech than civilians, so it makes sense that some of their bots were nuclear powered. Mr. Handys were luxury appliances, like the Corvega was too. If Beth had any respect for the original lore they wouldn't have run over this in Fo3 and Fo4. I also don't get the Mr Handy fuel thing either, because they're clearly not powered by propane (or whatever it is) and they don't drop nuclear material (as opposed to Mr Gutsys).
>>320762338
i would have much preferred an intelligent Super Mutant
>>320762549
HP is actually kind of a weird round and I don't like it. All AP ammo is -15 except for 5mm which is -25 (because base 5mm is -10). Claws max out at 15 DT so AP works well against them.
>>320761256
Mah nigga
>>320762763
Can't go without this too
>>320757331
>>Actually has dungeons
It literally doesn't. Of all the things you could say about Fo4, it doesn't have dungeons.
Why is this shit so ugly? I can't believe people actually like this.
I'm sick of big mountain and want this shitfest to be over so i can finish this game.
tell me lonesome road and dead money are better. already finished honest hearts and it was disappointing.
>>320762704
Bad Mothafucka IS intelligent, though. He's just unable to easily express it - thankfully the Courier has learned from the likes of ED-E and Doctor 8 how to understand shit like tone to perfectly figure out what someone is saying.
>>320762959
I like it. Not as good as the armor in Fo4 (or even the Fo3 art deco power armors) but it looks buglike and not humanlike, which was the point.
>>320762959
Honestly, it looks okay. It's probably the least ugly PA in 3 and maybe even NV. Doesn't have huge dumb pauldrons.
>>320762665
I like the original Signature Weapon more too, but just wanted to share both options.
oh a new vegas thread I can post this now
>>320762727
HP is a great round if you want to blow everything's flesh u pat higher levels, though I agree earlier on it's kinda useless for everything aside from like... Fiends and Powder Niggers.
>>320763082
http://vocaroo.com/i/s17wzi9GbsT8
>>320762338
bad mothafucka start at lvl 50 though, trivialise the entire game.
if we talk about designing i would rate kotlecik higher. after war nevada actually overhaul the scripted encouters as well unlike project nevada 's difficulty/spawn sliders. and his plan for fallout 4 look solid. the only complain is the weapon sway, which fallout 4 vanilla solve itself with a deep breath button.
>>320763106
Well, it's good vs. cazadores and ghouls I guess, it's just that it seems very situational and not really worth carrying with hardcore/jsawyer weight limitations over vanilla ammo.
>>320762978
I love dead moneybut a lot of people hate it, for valid reasons
I kind of hate lonesome road because of the 'antagonist', his dialogue is pretty tiring
Is there any mod to make it so the game remembers the type of ammo I last used in a gun?
>>320763280
It's actually very good outside of hardcore/jsawyer at higher levels because by that point, no matter what you've done, your weapons usually do high enough damage even with HP rounds that the DT isn't really an issue.
>>320763379
Maybe I'm underrating it.
>>320763195
>Scripting being brought up
Then we need to mention Xilandro, look at the shit he's helped produce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0eLWyokJf0
>>320763319
Ulysses was a great idea but there's a deep flaw to the whole "wise cryptic villain" act he has going on. The flaw being he's a fucking idiot. All of his deep philosophical talk has no purpose because you can shut down every vendetta he has against you with the line "Don't shoot the messenger."
>>320748009
I actuallypreferredvice city
>>320761256
its so gratifying.
>>320763539
>scripting
nope. SCRIPTED ENCOUNTERS.
the guy is a newbie compared to most prominent bethesda modders.
>>320763373
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/48242/?
It comes with other features you might not like, unfortunately.
>>320763507
Try out a revolver run with HP rounds - I promise it's worth it.
>>320763539
is that mod out? wanted a real dual wielding gunslinger for a while
>>320761256
Thisbig guyor the All American if I'm going Guns.
>>320763953
Not yet, it might have also died however. He's on Nexus, YouTube, and GUNetwork, so message him on one of those three places and ask.
>low intelligence actually has an impact on what you can say
Aren't there only a handful of moments where this applies.
>ammo crafting
I never used it. Really wish ammo was more scarce but then again, there's this big ass army running around so not like that would've made sense.
The other points you can have tho.
Damn maybe I need to pick up NV this winter sale. I tried Fallout4 but I was completely unsatisfied.
Will I like NV?
>>320752993
I actually wonder why Obsidian used feral ghouls in new vegas. since they weren't in the originals.
Did they just like the idea of them?
>>320756740
to be fair, the actual use for leaving in the middle of a sentence is in case an NPC you are talking just down right stops talking to you but won't exit dialogue.
>>320763904
That sounds interesting.
>>320764117
Hard to say. What about 4 didn't you like and what other RPG's do you actually like?
>>320764117
I'd say yes, just don't go in expecting the greatest game of all time.
>>320756936
>They actually took out mechanics from New Vegas like food production
>food production
wut. they even made eating more viable.
>>320764215
>actual use
you mean excuse? :^)
>>320764058
>>ammo crafting
>I never used it.
Doesn't make it bad, though you do need that one perk to get the best out of it, Hand Loading. But with it - match ammo is just +damage, +accuracy, there are other cool types too. And it's always fun to buy a bunch of 5mm ammo and convert it into 5.56 Match/7.62 JSP for your rifle.
>>320764142
They're a simple, applicable idea that do bear good use. And we did have "Ferals" in Fallout 1, the only difference was they held most of their faculties to the point they could talk and carry weapons.
>>320764058
There's a mod that makes ammo crafting components part of the loot tables, so you can find them in boxes and whatnot. Might incentivize people to make more ammo? The major gameplay changing mods (Vicious Wastes, Project Nevada, etc.) have methods of controlling ammo drop rates too.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/35378/?
>>320756740
I like the possibility of leaving mid conversation but that's such a shit reason if you're developing an rpg, assuming that's a real quote
>>320764142
they had mindless bloodthristy ghouls in fallout 1 and 2, bethesda probably just wanted them to use the name feral ghoul to standardize it.
they were called different things in both fallout and fallout 2
>>320754174
>No repairs at all
Good stuff.
>>320764058
dude ammo crafting is great. especially with the mod that lets you craft even more shit with Hand Loader.
being able to switch out ammo gives you more options during combat.
>>320757331
wow, so much of this is just blatantly wrong.
>>320764691
>being able to switch out ammo gives you more options during combat.
Encounters are never varied enough that you would have to need multiple ammo types on the fly or even need options.
It's not Obsidian's fault so much as Bethesda engine games don't allow that much variety.
>>320764908
>It's not Obsidian's fault so much as Bethesda engine games don't allow that much variety.
what does that even mean, variety is a design thing, software cant prevent that
>>320764691
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/36612/?
This one?
>>320764908
Not during a single encounter no but when I'm drawing to the end of a quest or dungeon (usually one added by a mod) I tend to switch to overcharged ammo since I know I'll be out for repairs soon enough
>>320764380
no, the excuse would be the attention span post made before. This is the actual use because it's a work around for a bug they can't seem to fix or want to work on.
>>320764908
it's sad that there are only so many enemies in New Vegas (humanoids or creatures or otherwise) that do not belong to a faction and you can kill them without penalty.
>>320756740
so he use this in real too when someone points some shit out he just walks away like: nah fuck that "qust" i will go and explore that mounten - and after 30 sec walking in that direction he alrdy forgot that he was walking to the mountens because his attention spawn is to short for this long walk
>>320765105
nah that one you posted adds new content in the game.
this one just adds more recipes for existing ammo
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/35370/?
Anyone else pissed at how shitty all the vaults were in FO:4?
That's like one of my #1 favorite parts of playing a new fallout game.
NV has by far the best vaults of any of the games.
>>320757331
Based
>>320765219
There's the Monster Mod (with the Lore add on to keep the Stalker monsters from showing up) if you want to expand on the things you can shoot. They are lacking otherwise, yes.
>>320765184
>a work around for a bug they can't seem to fix or want to work on
this sums up Fallout 4 nicely.
>>320765393
Oh, it's the water bottle modder. He does good stuff, very unintrusive.
>>320765385
>Yes
>Yes
>Fine. Yes.
>Absolutely yes.
People will defend this.
>>320765432
Really? Aside from 22 I can't say any of the NV vaults were any good. Maybe if 21 wasn't half filled in
>>320747746
Lily's a fun companion just from the way people react when they see her.
>Holy shit! Is that a fucking super mutant?
>Hooker: The big one looks fun <3
>>320765093
>software cant prevent that
Yes it can, especially when you start adding more complex things.
Remember radiant AI?
You can enable it in Oblivion but the shit crashes hard because the engine can't handle such things.
Bethesda engine games are limited by it's design.
You can't have very complex enemies or AI because it causes shit to break easily.
I'm surprised there are no land altering mods for 3 or NV
I believe there was one for Oblivion
>>320765514
i'm always iffy about adding new content instead of modifying existing content. You have to be very careful of breaking immersion.
>>320765432
I liked the tourist trap vault in vegas.
>>320765731
Not defending that but it's better when examples are shown for quests that aren't thrown away random ones that are made to be done infinitely.
>>320750794
I did too, but not for the reason you are thinking.
When I did my powder gangers quests I went up and talked to him noticed I was 5 points low of the speech check. Whatever I'll just end the conversation and pop a meeting people. I click the, "I'll be back later" option.
"Fuck you. You think you can just walk out of here." then they all go hostile.
>>320765731
>People will defend this.
(^)yes
(>)es
(<)fine. yes
(v)Absolutely yes
pick one
>>320765731
my favorite thing about this was that removing the dialogue wheel made their game look even worse
>>320765808
I guess, but the Monster Mod does have an immersion option.
>TESV: Skyrim releases
>buggy mess
>empty world that you don't have an effect on
>dumbed down quests and guilds
>missing basic features that were in previous games
>fanboys say "Well, mods will fix it!"
>Fo4 releases
>slightly less buggier mess
>empty world that you don't have an effect on
>dumbed down quests and roleplaying
>missing basic features that were in previous games
>fanboys say "W-well mods will fix it, now even console players can get mods! Based Bethesda!"
>TESVI releases
>"We know that you guys love mods as much as we do, so we hired some of your FAVORITE modders to make DAY ONE mods for this game. Also modding tools release with the game!"
>even buggier mess
>emptier world with less to do
>barely any big quests
>missing features
>fanboys say: "Based Bethesda, now we can immediately fix our game!"
>Fo5 releases
>"At this point it's obvious that we all LOVE MODS. We here at Bethesda think that you should be abled to play the game exactly as you like it! So we asked modders to go crazy on our game! You are the creators!"
>it's just an empty world
>one (main) questline with 5 quests
>20 NPCs (including enemy types)
>fanboys say "Based Bethesda, now we can play the game exactly like we want to! We just make our own game!"
discuss
>>320765750
i liked 34 and 11 also
>>320766146
it's not like the game was made with dialog wheel and not lists.
>>320757331
Fuck, man. It's just...it's 90% wrong. Did you play the game?
>>320757331
>>Quests have depth, no "go down the road and kill ants" bullshit.
Literally every quest is "Go here and clear out the raiders"
>>320757536
Oh hell yeah, The Silver Shroud was awesome in a goofy sorta way. I really dug it.
>>320766267
>(^)yes
>(>)yes
>(<)fine. yes
>(v)Absolutely yes
i will go for (v) because it's the only right one
>>320766196
i dunno. you gotta think about things like territory (who does this area really belong to) and time period (before the game, during the game, and effects after the game)
>>320761256
308. STRONK
>>320764691
What I liked about the different ammo types is that it made all your weapons more useful. Got a weapon that can't do well against armored enemies? There's AP ammo. Or maybe weapon A is weaker than weapon B but it has access to special ammo that weapon B doesn't have that makes it on par or better.
Or shit, some of it was just fun. Slugs for shotguns or incendiary ammos or the explosive .50 rounds.
>>320762959
I thought they were aliens when I first saw the F2 intro.
>>320766771
most. not all. pic fucking related.
>>320766267
I think people are starting to get burned out on bethesda games.
Unless the next installment of Elder Scrolls/Fallout do something really crazy, I don't think anyone other than die hard fanboys will care.
>>320766912
that's because Bethesda didn't do shit but convert Fallout into the Creation engine and they acted like they did so much.
>>320765917
just reload an autosave, go near them and pop a magazine. poe is really guilty of railroading you into combat if you dont have enough stats for a speech check.
i think deus ex hr system or a better bethesda %speech check where thing can go from 0% to 100% make for better rpg than skill gates.
>>320755656
The reason he does shitty action movies is because his wife died, so he doesn't feel like emotionally investing himself in a dark drama in order to take his mind off her.
>>320766771
>slugs for long range
>Magnum buckshot for squishy targets
>pulse rounds for robo and power armor
>Dragon breath for giggle
>Caesar Coin-shot for legion fucking shits
I remember someone telling me a while back that ammo crafting was stupid and no one ever used it. Sucks to be him really since changing ammo mid battle was always a good bit of fun.
>>320767052
No I liked that the convicts wouldn't let me leave peacefully after they told me what the fuck was I doing in their camp.
>>320750645
Who the heck is Felicia day and why do you people care so much? Did she reject ALL of you in highschool or something? No wait this is /v/ she's with a black man isn't she?
>>320767258
you could always like google the name y'know, saves making yourself looking like a tard in asking something that can be found easily on the net.
>>320767258
She's a fairly mediocre actress who makes most of her money off of being a sentient Joss Whedon character (IE the only things she knows what to say is primarily sarcastic witty one-liners) who gets her dick sucked by the same people who glorify "nerddom" because she was in some Guild Wars 2 videos. Also guys call her hot when she's flatter than a K-Pop star.
I personally just dislike her voice, but what I said is the usual complaints.
>>320767258
nerd culture gamer icon
>>320748912
>faction quests in Fallout 4 convenientely hidden
:^)
>>320767407
>google will give me an understanding why particular anons do not like someone
>>320761256
God damn I loved me some Anti-Materiel Rifle. The Deathclaws I killed with that baby...
>>320767667
Still less than NV.Sorry for the shit resolution, I had to zoom out because I'm on my laptop rn
>>320767890
It's more than Fallout 3 though
Also faction quests count as main quests for the branching storyline so not showing them was retarded
>>320767767
The fuck is that?
>>320767981
I can't disagree, but it's still criminally less than NV.
>>320761256
>using this thing with a forged receiver
>still having to repair it after every 200 or so shots because of overloaded SWC 45-70 rounds
Still it makes short work of anything under an Irradiated Deathclaw, I never truly realized how fun it was to use this gun for big game hunting.
>>320761256
Surprised nobody had claimed this yet
>>320754001
At least your pursuit of the chip and Benny ties into the theme of "Not letting go."
None of the factions like the Legion or Brotherhood want to let go of the past. Hell, even minor groups like the White Gloves or Powder Gangers want to let go of their pasts as cannibals or criminals.
The Zion Mormons don't want to let go of their faith, Elijah doesn't want to let go of pursuing what's in the Sierra Madre. Mr. House is obsessed with remaking the glory days of his Vegas and surpassing them. I could go on and on.
I found New Vegas more personal because I could make my own character how I'd like and have them do things in reaction to NPCs/Factions. In Fallout 3 I felt more lead by the hand with the main story.
>>320768195
>>320768312
Man this weapon was OP as fuck, it could make even fucking Deathclaws fall.
>>320768476
*Even the white gloves/Powder Gangers don't want to let go of their pasts.
>>320747018
4>3>>>>NV
>>320757730
>Jesus
>karma
I don't think so Tim
>>320768476
Holy shit this. Fucking NOBODY ever comments that the main theme of New Vegas is not being able to let go of the past.
Boone - Couldn't get over his wife/Bitter Springs
Veronica - Elijah
Cass - Her caravan
Arcade - The Enclave
Raul - His time as the gunslinger/his sister
Lily - Her memories of her grandkids
Nearly every faction and nearly every character has this theme and I barely see it mentioned. The reason Dead Money is one of my favourites is because of how heavily it utilises the theme
>>320768497
With the right perks, skills and hollow point rounds I am currently pumping out 149 damage per shot, x 149 by 6 = 894. Honestly not a lot of things could stand up to that kind of punishment, only things I could think of would be either level 50 roboscorps, trauma suits, Courier Mile deathclaws and lobotomites.
>>320757827
Literally the first side quest is fixing the water pipes and later getting irradiated from the pond with the bomb for moria
>>320758056
Arefu is over a RIVER and has a cattle farm (dead, that's the QUEST)at the bottom on the grass. They probably have a bucket and rope and get water that way
>>320758847
Worst* ftfyf
>>320769362
1) Those two statements aren't mutually exclusive
2) Watch some shit Comedy Central is pumping out these days and get back to me
>>320747746
>I'm not autistic
If you try and make a point on /v/ you're autistic
>>320768476
>>320768937
>underlying theme was never being able to let of the past
>tfw
How did I not see this earlier? Goddamn its like every person this side of Cali got bitten bad by the Loss bug or something. Also this guy was a pretty big criminal in regards with being unable to let go
>muh bear & bull
>muh symbols
>muh twisted hairs
>muh old world values
>>320768937
Because the main theme of NV as a whole is "the road you walk".
Every conflict, faction, and character in the game stems from this theme.
>>320769625
*let go
>>320769693
how do you explain being able to change their "road" with a speech check, big boi :^)
>>320769625
>muh ruining the backstory you created for your character
fuck you Ulysses I've never delivered those chips no matter how much you claim it
>>320768937
Old World Blues even has the theme in its title.
I mean fuck New Vegas is even a rebuilt Las Vegas and most of the major factions are based on historical groups
They put shitloads of thought into everything in NV, its a shame most people are too stupid to understand half of it
>>320769625
Ulysses is the biggest offender by far. You forgot a big one which is his inability to let go of The Courier. The guy spent fucking years looking for you to have his revenge and all that and you didn't even know he existed or what you'd done
>>320769821
I don't get what you mean.
are you saying people are not open to walk a different path somewhere in their lives even after starting down a path?
>>320768937
It's why I always do Dead Money before Lonesome Road and the finale. When I do a 'roleplay run', DM feels like a total catharsis of all the bullshit the courier's been through and it steels my character for what's waiting in Lonesome Road.
>>320770094
A few weeks a go I would have agreed but I realised recently that the final ending slide in OWB speaks of the courier only having one more road left to walk
>>320761979
>It also heavily caters to certain builds making it really easy or hard depending on that as well.
>Single player RPG allows difference experiences that cater to different builds
>Overpowered gatling lasers and riot shotguns have to work for 30 minutes instead of blazing through
Oh the horror.
>>320757331
>morally grey factions, no blatantly evil factions like the Legion
Fuckin' really? Legion is morally grey as shit. Sure they're misogynistic rapists who are complete assholes, however they 'civilize' the wasteland, protect it, and conquer it WAY better than the NCR do, and people like Cass and that one trader dude in the Fort blatantly express their admiration of the Legion because of this.
>>320762882
>>320768415
ironsights fucked up
>>320770417
>Legion is morally grey as shit
Not really.
>>320770417
i think there are no evil factions because everyone has their own way of doing things. the only good faction is the Followers of the Apocalypse.
>>320748397
>Not banging the sweet Vault 21 girl
>>320770605
even the followers do some questionable stuff, granted because they were basically expelled from the NCR but they still do some weird stuff.
>>320748912
not surprised.
>>320749345
Bethdrones are really pathetic, worst part is that there are so many of them.
>>320768937
>Randall Clark - Couldn't let go of his wife and child that died in the atomic fire
>Joshua Graham - Couldn't let go of the fire that burned inside him after losing at the first battle at Hoover Dam and the loss at Boulder City
>Daniel - Couldn't accept the loss of the many tribes that were killed by White Leg attacks as a result of Mormon intervention
>Dean Domino - Spent 200 hundred years stewing with hatred and revenge to rob the Sierra Madre simply because of his own jealously against Sinclare.
>The Think Tanks - Each having their own reasons for being unable to let go should their minds have been untouched by Mobius
>Mobius - His grief over having to fuck with his once most trust colleagues and friends minds in order to save the Mojave from their wrath
>Corporal Betsy - Got raped so hard by Cook-Cook that she turned into a skirt chasing dyke as a means of coping with the trauma
I feel like their is so much more to this but I can't properly remember every motive and desire behind each character that I have encountered.
>>320770757
they're so easy to spot
>>320761256
>strenght 10
>melee weapons 100
>all perks related to damage resistance and melee attacks/damage
>tfw banishing people to the depths of hell with my mighty hammer
>>320768937
Does this make Rex and ED-E the smartest of the bunch since they kinda just let go real easily? Rex even changed brains, how does he even remember his time as Rex?
>>320770775
*there
I need to cut down on the drinking today
>>320770417
they're outright evil. they were meant to be morally grey but they weren't fleshed out enough as they should have been due to time constraints
why is it that the people who hate OWB never beat it or rushed through the dialogue?
>>320758739
Except trading hubs are placed in locations that are either strategic or massive centers of production anyways.
Megaton isn't strategic since it isn't by anything, and we don't hear it talked about as a major trading hub.
Rivet City at least made sense, it was built in a carrier and had only one direct access point and had a fuck ton of traders and a working reactor.
>>320770920
Depending on what brain you give him his previous memories end up melding with that of his new ones thanks to the brain change. Given enough time he eventually accepts them as his own.Also Rex bangs the cyber dog from Big MT and they end up having a litter of cyber puppies that will either bring terror to the Mojave or because unofficial guardians of small settlements against the eventual Tunneler invasion.
If you want interesting locations, this Fallout isn't for you.
If you want anything resembling a Fallout, try the others. This isn't even close.
It isn't even a backwards step, it is a side leap. The game leaped so much off of its roots to the point that it is a generic FPS. If you want that, buy this game.
>>320771072
I can understand hating it from a gameplay perspective. Without armour piercing rounds it is fucking torture to play and the quests are very repetitive. However the dialogue and backstory more than makes up for it in my book
>Fallout 4
>Raiders, raiders everywhere
>they shoot everyone on sight
>How do they recruit if they only ever shoot people the second they see them
>Why are there like 100 raiders per 1 civilian
Seriously, you can take almost any aspect of Fallout 4 and find major logic problems with their existence
it's like the Skyrim Thieves' Guild, but with an entire game rather than just a guild questline
>>320771072
Memes probably
>>320770417
Brother I don't think you're accounting for the "moral" part in morally grey. Their methods are effective but they're incredibly violent and inhumane. Their entire goal is the forced assimilation or annihilation of everything around them.
Do you guys ever wonder if Beth is kinda jealous of Obsidian?
I just can't think why they wouldn't use it's mechanics, and instead went back to FO3's. Like, they have to know...
Would you guys say the majority of people enjoyed NV more?
>>320757331
>Actually has dungeons
Stopped reading there
Fallout is meant to be an RPG, not a dungeon crawler
If I wanted to play a dungeon crawler I'd play Diablo or Path of Exile or one of the many other games that are actually fucking dungeon crawlers
>>320770731
>followers
>doing questionable stuff
Care to enlighten me on this? I was always under the assumption that the Followers were good in all aspects except following NCR law.
3 and 4 are spin-offs.
New Vegas is a sequel to 2.
>>320771182
Yeah but how does that work? You take out the old brain how does it store the memories? Has our current science managed to find out something like how DNA or our other organs can contain memories? Or is it just based on sci-fi logic that has no real world basis?
Just curious if the writers somehow managed to find something to tie it into modern science even in 20 fucking 10.
>>320770417
Legion isn't gray, them having safe roads is only because they don't have roads to begin with
shitty jokes aside, they are just a horde going around the midwest, assimilating everything they interact with.
The problem with this is that they are too big to last, and rely entirely on expansion and Ceaser to survive. They have nowhere left to expand to and Ceaser has a brain tumor.
They are just a flash in the pan
>Get NCR loyalty to idolized
>Go to the NCR Embassy to talk to ambassador
>Meet ambassador who gives me the Boomers quests, calls me an outstanding citizen
>Finish up meeting, begin to turn around--
>NCR guard suddenly runs up, calls me a traitor who has it coming
>ALL NCR QUESTS FAIL, ALL NCR HOSTILE
>Start yelling WHAT THE FUCK I SPENT HALF THE GAME GETTING TO IDOLIZED
Stupid rep glitch that Obsidian never cared to fix, that's the main reason why I never finished the game.
>>320764052
hes dead. Millena's team been trying to contact him for months and no response
rip in peace
>>320771352
>huge name moneymaking company with a strong mainstream fanbase
>jealous of an underdog company with a loyal fanbase but less than perfect reputation
Hell no. Outside of /v/, most people seem to enjoy FO3 over NV. And with the release of Skyrim, everyone and their mother loves Bethesda.
>>320771538
Caesar's "thesis and antithesis" argument is fucking stupid anyway. He recognises that his army is a group of savage nomads and somehow thinks the synthesis from absorbing the NCR will eliminate this.
>>320770417
>faction with slavery, cruxification and a hivemind is good because MUH SAFE ROADS
When will this meme end?
>>320771669
>For months
He put up three videos last month on his YouTube, you can find his channel in the reply chain.
>>320757331
>>Quests have depth, no "go down the road and kill ants" bullshit.
God threads like these remind me just how much I love this game. Definitely my second favourite of all time afterVTMB
>>320771538
>Guy is supposed to be bald
>You can see hair on him because there's no actual bald option
>Guy claims he's educated and has studied history
>Doesn't realize there's far more examples of a big shot conqueror whose empire crumbles instantly after their death due to no proper successor
I highly doubt all the books of those examples just burned up while the books Caesar read were all conveniently spared. The guy is a moron who managed to learn some shit, then got a big head instead of studying some more and keeping humility. The moment his life took him in a direction where he needed to take action and he took it, he got high on how much smarter he was and thought he was a special snowflake.
>>320771352
>Do you guys ever wonder if Beth is kinda jealous of Obsidian?
more like bethesda wants to do their own thing with the basics of the setting, because they didn't want to come up with a too similar setting and have it ignored.
So they use the known fallout name but hate the fact that there is already story and lore to it. They get mad when people want the older game's world/lore/setting but are too stubborn to do it.
So Obsidian was hired.
>Would you guys say the majority of people enjoyed NV more?
Every time someone tells me the prefer 3 or NV I tell them I'm doing another NV run and they get all antsy and end up doing a NV run too. So yeah.
>>320761256
Shit Yeah, got my technique down and everything
>>320771184
this, really, game's barely Fallout, at all
>>320771536
I don't really understand how this would work maybe it could account with his cybernetic parts keeping hold of most of his memories of being in the Denver police department. All I know is that whatever brain you choose he just eventually grows to accept it and its inherent memories as his own. Since he has been around for such a long time a lot of his old memories could have died out by now or been replaced on a regular basis since he is nearly 200 hundred years old for a dog. Also pic related is the best ending for him.
>>320771536
residual memories? i have no idea. they got robots and other sci-fi technology.
You know else what I'm disappointed in New Vegas? There were no cyborgs. House mentions that prosthetic limbs exist in the world and no one has them. Hell you can even get implants but no cyborgs.
>>320771735
No he doesn't, he thinks it will change them, but he never alluded to knowing exactly how it will change. He just acts real pompous to try and convince the Courier that his decision is right, yet even he's not stupid enough to start making bullshit.
He's just a politician, using the delivery of speech to send the wrong signals so you won't ask any more questions which would result in either him lying, or getting hostile.
He's still stupid though, because it's clear he's gambling for New Vegas for the foundation of his empire, which ya know is like poetry cause that just makes him like all the other losers who go to Vegas to make it big. He just happened to have a lot more to stake on.
>>320771490
In the old games the Followers would place spies in factions (like the religion that is actually sided with the super mutants), not overly bad but weird.
In new vegas a follower actually killed an NCR who was investigating a water pump, it may have been 1 follower but it doesn't stray far from the followers doctrine.
Caesar was a follower and still practices many of his former pledges under the Legion banner.
As I said questionable. Not fully grey but they hit those points.
>>320771986
fully auto sniper rifles are the best
>People actually defend Bethesda's writing
LMAO
M
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>>320772226
>>320772290
So it'd be like artificial memories in a sense, since it's probably not those exact neurons or whatever the hell is in our brains that got transported to the cyber parts. Although it'd be pretty crazy if that was the case. Literally draining the brain cells of a person and putting it into a robot to keep maximum originality possible.
Nah that can't be it, the whole point of Fallout is to be bleak.
>>320772032
>tfw I am actively building up all the settlements just so I don't have to interact with the 'real' cities and towns
>>320771536
>wear a hat around Rex
>he won't stop barking at you until you take the hat off
>tfw he hates hats because it rhymes with rats which he hates with a burning passion.
>>320749581
Holy fuck this
>>320772709
maybe at launch. You'd have a hard time arguing that now though with all the fixes available
>>320772704
What happens if there's like radioactive bats swarming in a cave? Will Rex sperg out and get seizures just being near by?
>>320762338
I really enjoyed Puce Moose's mods too.
>>320772839
Not him but it's still buggy as shitif you mod it to hell and back and have a toaster.it's still limited by the garbage engine it was made in.
>>320772849
>cave full of radioactive super rats wearing old world gangster hats, wielding baseball bats while shouting "ratatat top cat!"
He'd probably blow a gasket at that point anon, Rex is a tough cookie but even he has his limits.
>>320772612
Not worth it, I built my city and I regret it fully. The game is just so empty to every Fallout.
>>320767178
I fucking love the Hunting Shotgun. 12 gauge has so many fun options, and I love guns where the ammo loads one by one. More Satisfying.
>>320767178
>Dinnerbell has inferior spread to Hunting Shotgun, enough that the latter can be considered superior to the former
Fucking Red Lucy.
>>320773561
>Fucking Red Lucy.
Absolutely
>>320766771
Slugs were incredibly useful though even without the fun factor.
>>320766907
This thing isn't all that bad considering you mostly use it for holdouts and almost no one in casinos wears heavy armor making the weakness against DT a moot point. Hell most of them wear suits, so hollow point that shit up.
>>320773739
>There is a companion mod for Sarah but not Lucy
>>320773561
It only has inferior spread to the modded hunting shotgun, and it does more damage.
That said, I do prefer the normal hunting shotgun to Dinner Bell.
>>320773862
Good. I like Red Lucy, but she deserves to focus on the Thorn.
>>320758991
I like him and the bonus is he engages with the community.
Id love to have him as a Lead Designer on the next installment in the Mojave.
>>320773971
The damage difference is negligible compared to the spread difference is my point, combined with the higher magazine for the modded hunting shotgun and it just flat out wins objectively.
Not that I care that much, I'm more of a Riot Shotgun guy myself only because with JIP selective fire the sound it produces holding down the mouse is beautiful. I even ran a run with it using beanbags for shits and giggles.
>>320774124
Whats the deal the sex scene with her? Was she so obsessed with reproduction she had to do it her self?
>>320773561
Thats because Lucy expects you to be up close to your prey so you can see the light in its eyes go dim as you pump its head full of 12 gauge right from the maw of her specially crafted shotgun. Shes wants a real man not some limp wrist pussy. She gets wet from that shit.
>>320774124
>tfw going back to the Thorn every time I'm in the Mojave just to kill two Deathclaws for her before going out back for a little "quiet time"
>>320774124
See but that means you can't save her if you use the NV Uncut option where you loose her wasteland zoo that slaughters everyone in the Thorn but somehow ignores you and your party.
I wish someone actually changed that. And also made it so those damn things visited other cells and rampaged over West Side.
What option do i pick to not kill mobius?
>>320747746
>it's gay so it must have an agenda
>even though it was made before the whole SJW bullshit
people are dismissing games simply because it has a gay character
man imagine if the SJW trend came in when persona 4 came out
i
>>320774436
>Thats because Lucy expects you to be up close to your prey so you can see the light in its eyes go dim as you pump its head full of 12 gauge right from the maw of her specially crafted shotgun. Shes wants a real man not some limp wrist pussy. She gets wet from that shit.
I can get behind that logic.
>>320774350
SHe respects someone bad enough to do shit like steal eggs straight from deathclaws that she's willing to go spread-eagle for 'em.
>>320774436
I always fuck her before the Hoover Dam quest. It's like a good luck charm.
>>320774462
Just don't do it, then. Consequences are important.
>>320774601
One thing I wished modders could fix was making deathclaws bigger threats than cazadores on a whole. I mean in some minor aspects they are scarier than cazadores, but 99% of the time that shit just doesn't fly.
Friendly reminder that Fallout 4 has:
>No prostitutes
>ONE slaver
I also couldn't find any mentions of sexual violence but I may be mistaken
In any case, Fallout 4 is a lot more "disney" than previous Fallouts
Even more than Fallout 3
>>320771337
Not him but to be fair, Caesar's logic is the wasteland lacks resources and assumes his plan is the only way humanity will survive in the far future. In a sense that is morally grey, because his goal is literally the whole of humanity being able to survive without pre-war tech and resources and ensuring the human race's survival.
It's just that he's looking so far ahead he doesn't realize he himself never had what it took to pull it off and makes him no different than No-Bark other than one being harmless and the other guy fucking with people.
>>320753182
s-so what happens if I walk there?
>>320774350
Depending on the dialogue you chose, you basically spend the quest courting her.
>>320774787
I'd argue that Deathclaws are more dangerous early on due to their DT and not being able to frenzy them.
>>320771538
The impression I got was that Caesar's goal was not the Legion's long term survival, but rather his goal was to create a single, unified identity among the people of the wasteland. His Legion would be the common base from which a new civilization would arise and flourish, just as ours has from the real Roman Empire.
This can be seen in his reasoning. One of the weaknesses of the NCR is the bickering and infighting amongst bureaucrats, self-interest is the driving goal of their civilization, and that comes from a strong sense of identity whether in a tribal sense or individual.
Caesar is trying to do away with this by destroying the identities of the tribes he conquers. He leaves little quarter for customs and traditions of those subjugated; they are swept up and assimilated 100% into the Legion's culture and ideals. If they do not, then they are decimated. The Legion would not last forever, and will one day fall just as Rome did. But from the Legion, the Wasteland will have a single, common culture from which they can build from.
>>320775352
How does frenzy even work? The only thing I've found out after 5 runs is fire makes fire ants go crazy. There's nothing on the wikis that mentions much about it.
>>320774787
cripple one of the cazador's wings.
bam just made them easy.
>>320775451
you damage something in their brain that lets them recognize their own kind
>>320775451
Frenzy just makes them attack everything nearby
>>320775451
If an enemy is frenzied, they will attack everything around them.
With bugs, you can shoot them in the antennae and when crippled they'll attack everything else. Handy with Cazadores.
Works for Robots too if you target their combat inhibitor but it isn't worth the effort on those in my opinion.
>>320776006
>The NCR rely on rusty, rotting, breaking old world technology
As opposed to rusty lawnmower blades, football padding, and salvaged chunks of T-45d?
>>320776006
>Legion for the great good
>implying the Chinese weren't the greatest good of them all
>>320771762
Would you rather live with the ancient Romans or the Gaulish tribes?
>>320775897
I only have a problem with them as melee/unarmed and when facing swarms so I can't just pound away at the one I'm hitting that's super slammed.
I don't know how to manually hit wings easily with those weapons.
Actually is there a fucking mod that makes power attacks easier to use? This especially applies to shit like Unarmed's ranger takedown, which would be 99.99999% more useful if there wasn't this 1 second delay during holding right mouse + back before your PC even carries out the animation. The whole directional combo system is super clunky.
>>320776006
That doesn't justify charging a guy with a machete when he has a fully automatic rifle pointed at your face.
>>320776071
So cazadores need both antennae AND wings just to frenzy their own kind? Isn't that kind of redundant? How many of their own kind could it possibly hit while it's wings are crippled?
>>320776394
the Legion uses technology but were disciplined not to rely on them.
They charge at people with Thermic Lances and Chainsaws while the others cover them with assault carbines and 12.7mm SMGs.
>>320776475
Nope, just shoot the antennae and they frenzy. Shoot the wings if you wanna slow 'em down.
>>320776394
Service rifles are semi-autos and Legion Recruits do carry firearms. Besides, melee is historically strong in Fallout setting.
>>320776475
No. He's saying to shoot the wings because then they just crawl slowly at you.
>Damage Threshold is a combat statistic in Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel. It was removed in Fallout 3, leaving Damage Resistance as the only armor statistic. However, it was restored in Fallout: New Vegas, before being removed yet again in Fallout 4.
we want the retard audience - bethesda
>>320776006
>turning your back on technology
Why would you even think that? Technology is essential to human progression and combined with the proper knowledge can and will help you to end world hunger, find cures for previously incurable diseases, achieve spaceflight, ascend the frailties and limitations of the flesh and attain immortality. Technology is the only true path to salvation.
Also Dala best girl
>>320776976
Sawyer's patch had the best idea though, which had DT and DR on armors.
>>320776635
Oh, that's awesome then. I finally have a reason to make a vats build.
>>320777326
There is nothing that says the Legion don't use technology. They were disciplined not to rely on it.
>>320777414
Doesn't his patch use the formula of DT -> DR makign DT kinda worthless in those cases? DR -> DT would actually make power armor, well power armor.
>>320777326
It took me a while to figure out there actually a woman in that team and it was that asian "dude".
>people tell me the factions are good in f4 because they are all grey
so basically they are all exactly the same.
>>320754174
>Jury Rigging
>requires lvl 16 and 90 Repair
>at this point you have more caps that you'll ever need anyway
real use for it is fixing unique equippment, that does not have common gear in it repair list
>>320747018
>play NV
>kill some Cesar's Legions guys
>they come around every half hour with six guys that kill you instantly
How can I stop this?
>>320777326
>Dr Dala
>Dr Zero
>Dr Borous
>Dr Klein
>Dr 8
>Dr Mobius with his swag as fuck beard
>>320749170
This quest is so fucking stupid because literally the only way to actually do it is to go to Mass Fusion in Power Armor and jump off the building, all for a five second scene of Father saying how disappointed he is and banishing you.
It automatically completes after you finish the quest that fucking triggers it, who designed this shit?
>>320754459
>Liam Neeson
non-American here. For what movies I should know Liam Neeson? Because I'm sure I've heard his name, before F3, but can't really place it
>>320777563
DR->DT would be way too OP. Remnants PA has 30-ish DR and DT, which makes it pretty good (that's 55 DR with Med-X, if they stack, which I assume they do).
>>320777567
>implying you wouldn't stick your dick into Dala after she has giving you a personal runway show with her playing dress up, looking you up and down while licking her lips
Dala just needed a good hard dicking to set her straight.
>>320761256
Now if only there was a mod that let me use two of them
>>320777710
they only key at certain locations along the river.
just go new vegas and do what ever buisness with benny that ends him in some way than exit his casino and legion spy will give to a medalion that makes you neutral to the legion.
>>320777919
Taken and about 75 other generic action movies per year.
>>320777919
star wars
taken 1-3
>>320777957
Oh I'm not complaining. I'm just shock there was a woman in the team after I saw that image long ago.
>>320777563
>>320777927
I don't think it changes the formula, it goes DR -> DT.
Helps with the hyper deathclaws and the like if you use some power armor and medex.
>>320755316
>You can't add armor attach points to meshes without making brand new meshes
actually there's ton of unused model slots for armor left over from Oblivion and probably even Morrowind. There've been mods "cutting" vanilla armors to separate pieces, for aesthetics mostly, allowing to pick pieces of armor set you like, or mix them.
>>320777919
>Liam "Long Dong" Neeson
Taken 1,2 and 3
Stars Wars
I think he was on a batman movie
100 ways to die in the West
some King Arthur movie where he played as one of the companion knights of the round table
He is on a lot of movies at the moment but mostly action ones doesn't help that his wife died a while ago so he is still hurting over that event.
>>320777979
two step goodbye is the best powerfist just because of its fun perk
>>320778502
you know, I don't really like his movies, but its cool to see an actor like him that really just likes to be in movies
>>320778202
You're silly.
>>320778202
>>320777567
>>320778764Is that a boy or a girl?
>>320757375
handmade sidequests have been largely replaced by infinite generated quests from Skyrim
">"a settlement needs our help"
>>320776160
Yes. rely on things that can be simple sharpened, stitched back together or welded back together, instead of needing a nuclear reactor and fusion cells.
>>320778861
An attempted rapist.
>>320778901
But power armor doesn't need fusion cores until Fallout 4 - Hell, it's mused upon that T-51b armor can last fucking centuries in Fallout 1.
Also, NV shows you can do shit like recycle microfusion cells, energy shells, recraft ammunition, all of that. Quite efficiently, even.
>>320778882
>tfw we will never get another NV or Morrowind
>>320777326
I really wish we could have gotten the completed Old World Blues ending. It sounds great.
What other Obsidian RPGs are there that are just as good/better than New Vegas?
>>320779121
>tfw Think Tanks putting the Legion on the moon in the cut ending
>>320774787
theres that mod that makes a hybrid deathclaw-cazador
just search cazaclaw on the nexus
>>320779513
Kotor 2.
Coincidentally, also a sequel to a game, though in my opinion, Kotor 1 was decent.
NEW THREAD
>>320778584
>>320778584
>>320778584
NEW THREAD
>>320779090
You can recycle them but it's only a chance to recover them. Thus we can assume that some times we can't recycle them. The supply is slowly going down, at some point none will be left. You can keep jury rigging stuff but at some point it's going to break for good.
Nobody said it was going to happen over night.
>>320761290
You can make fuel out of renewable resources. Shale oil and gas, biodiesel, even high-octane alcohol. It's just more expensive and less effective than actual mineral fuel.
Issue is, oil or coal are more than just fuel, starting with as basic things as plastic.
Also flying robots may simply use ion thrusters.
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