>they hate Smash 4
>you ask them why
>they make a list of competitive/meta gameplay issues
>>320742791
What the fuck does meta gameplay mean?
>>320742791
Smash 4 is a great game to play with friends, competitive fags won't stop bitching but they are like 10% of the fanbase so who cares what they want
>>320742791
Smash has only gotten better with each iteration.
>>320742791
so they complain about the game aspect of the game?
>>320745657
The game is fine, completely functional.
It doesn't need sliding, wave dashing, x-cancelling, or whatever else Melee babies try to pass off as necessary features. The game has its own set of rules and physics that manage to be fun.
>>320742791
Melee has better Pokeball Pokémon, better stages and no shit items like Smoke Ball or Smash Ball.
>>320745871
>only like 4 characters have actual shield pressure
>waiting for another person to fuck up is fun
To each his own I guess
>>320745472
>Smash 4 is a great game to play with friends
all games where you can are
>>320745871
>Stable rules
>Decent physics
>Fun
That's all I've got, but I guess I'll throw out baseless rants to completely fulfill my memeleeposting this thread as we have sworn to.
Oh right. TR4ASH PLAYERS
>>320745871
Fun is not an objective term. They listed their objective reasons for why they don't like it. Shut the fuck up already about this dumb bullshit and let people dislike things you like.
>>320746192
>More characters
>More stages
>Greater music selection
>All that juicy 3rd party representation
>Stages 4 times the size of Temple
>Dat hilariously fun 8-player Smash
>More items
Call me when Melee stops being a relic in comparison, senpai.
>>320742791
Odd that most complaints are directed towards the roster. Also most competitive fags are also poorfags who just can't afford a Wii U. So they're stuck in the past with their Wii or are piratefags aswell.
>>320742791
>gameplay issues aren't a valid reason to dislike a GAME
hurdur
>>320742791
>they hate Smash 4
>you ask them why
>MUH PROJECT M
>>320746498
I bet you have facts and statistics to back this bullshit claim up, amirite?
I don't play competitively or anything, and usually only play it with friends
It's just not fun.
It doesn't feel satisfying at all to play. We put in 16 hours on launch day and didn't look forward to playing it the next day. Me and my friends lose interest within 30 minutes now. We have more fun playing Amiibo Festival, honestly
>>320742791
Tr4sh is all show and no substance.
>gameplay
>>320742791
Smash4 can be very good in a competitive way too.
>game exploits that autists cling to aren't in the sequel
>this is a valid reason to complain
>>320742791
>>they hate Smash 4
>>you ask them why
>>They talk about the gameplay
>>320745472
it's less than 10%
>>320746501
>>320746832
>Only the competitive aspect matters
>>320742791
It's like you really think we're stopping you from enjoying the game. If you cant take legitimate factual reasons people hate the game based on problems it actually has, its your problem not theirs. Your insecurity doesn't make Smash 4's problems not exist.
>>320746732
This. Both Brawl and smash 4 are fucking slow and boring, even from a casual PoV. They just aren't fun to play.
OP is an eternal faggot.
The only reason people prefer melee is because tourney fags do. If Nintendo was more like Capcom in constantly advertising its main game's tourney scene there would be more Sm4sh fans.
its not fun
its chaulk full of amiboo shilling, dlc, shitty characters, resused as fuck stages, hell, the WHOLE GAME is just a pile of reused assets pawned off as something new.
the controls are just complete shit, the controllers are just complete shit, the fact that they have all this other third party bulshit for a single game just for the controler and characters is just bullshit.
i fucking hate it.
>>320747080
>That's the joke
>>320747104
>image
The problem with this reasoning is that when tourneyfags say "oversimplified" they mean that bugs in Melee that were removed in the later games are keeping them from being "competitive". The game isn't meant to be some strict tournament fodder and the exploits that tourneyfags cling to as gameplay mechanics weren't meant to be there. The games were never meant to cater to tournament play so this is a case of people complaining that the sequel to a game that didn't purposely cater to them is catering to them even less.
>>320746732
>doesn't feel satisfying
>more fun playing amiibo festival
>>320747080
>gameplay always implies it is competitive
>>320746501
>>320745657
There's a difference between taking the piss out of people who dislike the gameplay, and taking the piss out of people who enjoy cherrypicking a game right down to the fucking bone on every single hitbox on every single character in a children's party game.
>>320747537
why the fuck do people say that melee mechanics are bugs. wavedashing and L-canceling arent bugs. hell, L canceling is in smash 64. Sakurai removed them because he thinks the way people use them makes the divide between casual and "hardcore" to vast.
Every character stays alive for way too long.
>>320747537
Wavedashing and Lag cancelling are not bugs. Exploiting does not mean bugs/glitches and never has. Exploit simply means to use something to your own end, it does not define glitches and I do not understand where autists got this mindset.
L-cancel was in Smash 64 as smooth landing, it was on the damn Smash 64 website, it carried into Melee with the landing lag halfed now. Wavedash is simply a byproduct of the pyhsics in the game. Each character in the game has a set traction with the ground, you can see this with ice climbers, and luigi, compared to peach or Zelda who go nowhere. It's simply angling a air dodge at the ground and sliding. It's not a bug, it's a byproduct of what I just said.
Jesus christ I hate having to type this out everytime some insecure crapper crazed casual goes on a tangent.
But no, when I say oversimplified I mean. There's extreme landing lag on good moves, the ledges hold your hand now more than ever, recoveries have too much priority, all the fun items are gone and it's all bullshit OHKO garbage now. There's no shield stun even still after the update so babby doesn't feel pressured, there's no pressure game really at all. The game speed is still floaty and slowed down, proper DI was almost entirely removed so ppl cant escape from babbys dial a combos that sakurai let him have. hell there's almost no combo creativity because if fag babby got railed too hard he might break his controller.
Add to this that 1p mode suck horribly now, custom moves are trash, unlockables suck, the game is paywalled to hell and back, it's just BAD. You can not cater to tourneyfags, and thats fine, but dumbing down and genuinely RUINING THE GAME trying to cater to a section of the fanbase that doesn't care about GAMEPLAY is fucking over Smash.
>>320742791
>Zero has been at the top because he's a metawhore
>Continues to circlejerk melee Fox mains.
>you hate smash
>they dont even ask why and just say you have shit taste, suck at the game, and dont see its depth
>>320748316
>game is fun for casuals
casuals are the 95% of the players
>but muh PM mechanics
no one cares faggot, the game is fun with friends, maybe you should try playing it with those instead of random anons in the internet
>>320748251
OP 'ere.
While I do enjoy Smash 4, i'll admit that this is an issue that pisses me off to no end. Went 1v1 against a Jigglypuff last night. Fucker didn't die until 173% or something.
>>320742791
Reminder that it is you who is in the wrong
>>320748251
it feels more that some moves kill extremely easily, while others never have enough. especially when things like smashes won't kill but an up-air (which doesn't even look too powerful) takes stocks at 50-70%
>>320742791
>Thinking people want the same thing out of games
>Blaming people for wanting competitive gameplay when that's what they like about previous entries in the series
>Not just accepting that they don't like it
What a fag.
>>320742791
>no wavedash
>no l cancel
>no 20xx
F U C K T H I S G A M E
>>320748316
>Wavedash is simply a byproduct of the pyhsics in the game. Each character in the game has a set traction with the ground, you can see this with ice climbers, and luigi, compared to peach or Zelda who go nowhere. It's simply angling a air dodge at the ground and sliding. It's not a bug, it's a byproduct
Stop fucking lying to yourselves meleefags, wavedash was never intended to be in the game and that's a fucking glitch.
>>320748545
Slow paced defensive games with no fun items are not fun with friends. They aren't fun at all.
You keep falling back to this 'its fun for casuals' thing, but none of my casual friends enjoyed brawl or smash 4. I don't even take smash bros seriously, I just think melee and 64 are better than the others because matches don't take an eternity, and playing them feels fluid.
I don't get that with Brawl or Smash 4. They don't feel fluid at all, their gimmicks aren't cool, and they're really easy, slow, and defensive. They're just really dull overall, which is unfortunate.
>>320748584
You are just shit at killing.
But having everyone live more is what makes smash what it is, a platform fighter.
back on the days of 64, you could stay alive for long too thanks for its floatiness and it was fantastic, melee killed that and was pretty shit.
Now the game went back to that, it rewards you for making it back to the stage and is 100% fine
>>320748316
They are bugs, dumbass. If they weren't, they would have kept them in the next iteration and the next. Face it. Melee is a broken piece of shit that was riddled with bugs that Sakurai had to fix.
If those supposed "exploits" were intended, they would have kept them there similar to SF2 keeping combos where normals canceled into specials.
>>320748752
I'm fairly certain that it shows off that you slide on the ground in the "how-to-play" video in melee.
>>320746498
The 3DS version does exist, you know. Sm4sh 3DS has even moved more copies than the Wii U version.
>>320746102
This post is kind of poorly worded but faggots on /v/ need to stop using 'b-but it's fun wit frends XDD' as a crutch
Fucking Alien isolation and Brink was fun with friends you dumb niggers.Then you realize how bad things truly are.
For me the most disappointing thing about Sm4sh is the items. In Melee, most can be ignored and was fun to play with them on and off, same with Brawl, and I actually like the smash ball. But Sm4sh, a lot of the new items are shit or annoying and everything drops far too frequently.
>>320748545
>Casuals are 95% of the players
>Tournament players buy thousands of copies for tournament use that are kept for venues
>Tournament players stay active long after the initial casual buyers abandon the games
>Even melee players number in the hundreds of thousands right now just from stream views alone for smash only events
>the active player base for those games if often competitive players
It's like you're only counting sales and not people who actually play the game. I think YOU'RE the minority.
>>320748752
Prove it then. I supplied proof based on factual information taken from the game itself. Sakurai and the team knew it was in the game, people who hacked the game took it apart and wavedash actually has its own preset acknowledgement in the code as "landing-fall special". Glitches don't get named in code. If they saw it during development and kept it, which they did then it's not a glitch and was kept by the development team themselves.
I'm sorry you want to live in this massive state of denial so you can eternally claim victimhood by tourneyplayers who are doing nothing to you. Cry and a river and build a bridge so you can get over it. It wasnt ever, isnt now, and will never be a glitch you insecure crapper crazed crybaby.
in b4 didnt read so you can maintain a false victim position based on intentionally remaining ignorant.
>>320749218
>I supplied proof
Stopped there because you didn't.
A lot of text is not proof, links are proof
>>320749026
If smooth landing (L-cancel) was a bug, it wouldn't of been kept from 64 to Melee, 2 different games, on different storage mediums with 2 different engines coded from the ground up on 2 different platforms. Go play victim with someone who isnt your better crybaby.
it also wouldn't of been included as Smooth lander badge in smash 4 either, so yea...you're kinda BLOWN THE FUCK OUT by sakurai himself, your supposed savior you worship.
>>320749368
>I'M INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO REMAIN IGNORANT TO FRUSTRATE YOU! I WONT READ ANYTHING AND EDUCATE MYSELF! U MAD YET?
I'm done replying to you, you're fucking retarded or trolling or both.
>>320749218
My point is, these games are not made with the competitive crows in mind, mechanics like wave dashing, L canelling and other tricks were byproducts of how the game was made, they weren't purposely thrown there by the creators so i won't complain if they are not in the game
Once you buy the game, they already have the money, they barely care if there is a group of people who keeps playing the game after they bought it, they already have the money anon, they don't need much else from you after that
>>320748986
>days of 64, you could stay alive for long
nigger are you high? People died super easy in 64 because everything combos into everything, half the cast had a kill throw. and most of the cast couldn't recover from the blastzone.
>>320749551
>L-cancel wasn't intentional
read the rest of the posts you retard. God I wish I could hit peoplelike you.
>>320749368
not the same guy, but come the fuck on, you're on the internet. look it up
http://www.ssbwiki.com/wavedash
>>320746102
this is what saved dark souls 2 for me
>>320749515
>still no links
>>320745657
They're bitching about the game not being a Fighting game, when it never was. Smash is a PARTY GAME, as Lord Sakurai has stated many times. All who try to treat it as something that should be a serious competitive Fighting game are heretics who should be tortured and executed for defying the Word of God.
>>320749628
It wasn't intentional but then it was kept around because it was a neat trick, but it's not in the game now, who cares, i still have fun
Nice internet muscles you got there anon
>>320749672
>>320749642
>"im actually THIS retarded"
>>320748316
as much as i personally couldn't give less of a fuck about competitive shit, I agree with you on most aspects. I dislike wavedashing but sakurai didnt need to neuter momentum or slow the game down. The other point I agree with is the intentional fucking of fun game modes. nobody played break the targets because they wanted a shitty version of homerun contest with an angry birds aspect. I understand that with the amount of characters it is unreasonable to custom design a stage for EVERY character, but jesus christ, at least make a few levels of difficulty, not this angry birds cop out garbage. its not fun. And I don't know ANYONE who likes smash tour. and they could have just made an extra mode instead of changing "classic" for the worse. that mode is incredibly unfun now and I feel insulted that they call it classic when it has nothing in common with classic mode. Lastly, I don't understand what is so hard about putting in an option to turn off bosses on stages like you can turn off items. I don't fucking like final destination and making a FD version of every stage is pointless beyond scenery. I like variety.
I'm not even going to get into anything else because people are just going to complain at me because they don't get that this game legitimately is ruined potential. All they had to do was make a faster brawl with the smash 4 roster and remove tripping. how the fuck do you screw that up.
>>320748617
>preferring character variety and smoothness over fucking hitboxes
>preferring officially approved Nintendo products over homebrew mods
>preferring HD graphics and new gameplay modes over break the targets
>preferring fun chaos over exploiting glitches in a sweaty room
Nah, I don't think I'm in the wrong here.
>>320749415
>items and equips somehow justify your claims
L. O. FUCKING L.
>>320749802
I sent the answer before him you kno
>>320742791
>>they make a list of competitive/meta gameplay issues
I agree that this is kind of gay, but at least they can give a reason as to why they don't like the game. So even if you disagree with their logic, at least their ideas are based on something. That's better than "I don't like it", "why", "because it's shit".
>>320749116Me and 3 others bought Aliens Colonial Marines day one,
We all realized it was terrible when we actually played it, but we had a damn fun time cooping at least
>>320749580
But there was way more off stage space and yeah most of the cast could make it back actually
>they complain about the gameplay
why the fuck wouldn't they complain about the most important aspect you retard
>>320749876
>Fun chaos
Why is it fun though?
>they hate smash 4
>you ask them why
>they say its because k rool isn't in
>mfw Meleefags thinking Nintendo cares about the competitive scene
Not even Melee was made with the competitive scene in mind, it's just something that happened, this game is sold to you exactly like they sell Mario Party games; basicly fun with friends, the more the better
And i'm one of those people who enjoyed Melee's speed and tricks, but i think they didn't want a big breach between players.
Sm4sh is a fun type of chaos still, it feels like what Brawl should've been
>>320750084
You're a literal moron
>>320746434
I'm not into competitive shit but a lot of the new items and stages are pretty shit, and stages bigger than Temple is the exact opposite of a positive.
Smash 4's stages and single player modes are its weakest points.
Sometimes when I play with the CPU, I feel like they know what you are going to do. Dont get me wrong, I know that is a strategy to develop. But they do it to a certain point thst I dont even know. Seriously tried to combo a Mario and the bitch blocked every single of the hits. Hell I even dare to say he predicted some misthrown bombs.
(Toon Link fag here)
>>320750621
High level CPUs have a input reader enable just for u.
>>320750447
Insulting someone doesn't make them incorrect.
But I will agree on one thing. This game (just like many others) are better with friends. You know why? Because aside from the lols and the rekts, is funny to actually try to read the umpredictable mind from your friend. When you win against someone else (that is not a robot) it feels great. Now for the stages, I have no problem at all. But I think that all anons here agree on something...
Smash Tour is trash. (Would've loved to have a story mode like subspace emyssary)
>>320750983
In this case, they are incorrect.
Smash 4's ''gameplay'' is solid. It's relatively glitch free. It's responsive, it's fast, it's smooth, and it's, for the most part, fun.
If you want to take shit like Donkey Kong's hitbox on his down A, or lack of wavedashing as a valid point to label the game ''tr4sh'' then you're a moron. That's not making comments on gameplay, that's making a fuss over literally nothing.
>>320752646
the fact that Smash 4 gameplay is casualized doesn't make it bad, true. But it doesn't make it good either. Specially for competitive players.
If you don't care about competitive well, good for you. But people that do can find a problem in the game and game mechanics, even if it's minuscule shit like frame data or wonky hitboxes. Don't be a faggot, please. You can have fun in Smash in diferent ways, not everyone sees it as a party game.
>>320753029
Then according to you. Can we look at the Smash franchise like this?
Melee= Competitive Players
Brawl= Semi Casual/Competitive
Sm4sh= Casual Players
>>320753371
No. Because you can play every game in every way. It's just that one is better than the others at some stuff. If anything, I would look at it from a "strenght" kind of ranking
Melee = Better competitive
Brawl = Best Single player experience
Smash 4 = Best party game and roster
Play the game you like most the way you want, but it will have flaws and pointing them out is not a bad thing.
>>320753029
>not everyone sees it as a party game
Okay. You see, this is where my point fits.
A picture of a triangle will always be a picture of a triangle if that's how the creator feels it's purpose is. You can shit on the triangle for not being a square, but in the end, it's not a valid criticism for what was envisioned.
Smash 4 is a party game. It can be played competitively, but that's not how it was envisioned. The fact that it doesn't cater to what you interpret it to be doesn't mean it's bad. If there are MAJOR issues with balance, yes, that's an issue. But comparing it to Melee is just pointless.
>>320753726
>used to love playing sm4sh all the time
>lately it's just felt tedious because I keep connecting to projectile spam characters
It's not even that they're difficult to beat, they aren't. It's just annoying chasing them all over as they shoot projectiles nonstop.
>>320753726
>But comparing it to Melee is just pointless.
No because
>It can be played competitively, but that's not how it was envisioned.
That's goes right for melee too
>>320752646
>fast
>no momentum transferred to jumps
>no dashdancing
>still floaty
yeah, it's still trash
>>320754290
>>no momentum transferred to jumps
Do you want fucking Sonic in each corner of the game don't you nigga?
>>320754375
That's not much worse than falcon
>>320754579
Yeah, it is
>>320746371
Then maybe people should stop going
>hurr stop liking what i dont like
>>320753726
The thing is that Melee was never meant to be competitive yet it's amazing at it, but it was also the best party game of it's time.
Yet Sakurai thought the game needed to be easier because...? That's the point, he fixed something that wasn't broken and that nobody wanted to be fixed. Yes, it wasn't meant to be a fighting game, but people play it like one because it's fun. Sakurai closing his hears and screaming LALALALA I DON'T HEAR YOU just make him seem more like a faggot at my eyes, I seriously don't understand why would people defend the casualization of a series. Hell they ruined Mario Party because of the same reason.
People asking for fun stuff in other games like only one air dodge, jump momentum or l canceling which by the way, don't really affect casual gameplay at all is not a bad thing.
>"I hate [GAME]!"
>"Why?"
>"The fanbase sucks"
>>320742791
How about this:
The physics are completely fucked, the new characters and stages are uninteresting, items are shittier than ever before.
>>320753698
You have a point
And thanks for giving your POV and not just calling me a fag
>>320742791
Smash 4 is a pretty good game, but it does fall flat because it was spread out between two consoles. The 3DS is, in my opinion, the more definitive version of the game. The stages are more like stages instead of gimmicks, Classic mode is better and Smash Run is an all-around fun mode, but it loses appeal thanks to the zero customization of matches.
The Wii-U version does have 8-player Smash and HD graphics, but I feel that it is missing... it's luster. It's Classic mode is pretty terrible, Smash Board is... just a train-wreck of ideas and the lack of good stages is saddening (Palutena's Temple is cool, but it is a damn nightmare in a 1-on-1 match.
Too bad the game is stuck on a damned hand-held that lacks easy-of-use and comfortability. If they didn't shoot for two consoles then it would have been a better game and possibly on-par with Melee, but, alas, we are all stuck with this.
>>320748316
Holy shit TL;DR you fucking autist
>>320742791
>they hate smash 4
>you ask them what games they like
>melee
>>320752646
>You measure gameplay by how glitch free it is
Stupidest post of the year right here.
>>320755179
I have a friend who hasn't talked about anything but how much he hates the Undertale fanbase, for at least a month now.
I guess it's a step up from talking about how jews/feminists are out to get him but fuck.
>>320755179
>tfw me
Melee's competitive side is cancer to me
>>320755746
The competitive side is the only thing keeping it relevant over sm4sh.
>>320755516
Well, Melee is better in every way.
>>320742791
Well yeah, the roster is fine but the gameplay is definitely weak in some aspects
Do you only jerk off to the CSS or something?
>>320755871
If you wanna meme it up on twitch streams and feel like you're playing something competitive but can't get interested in any real fighting games because they don't have nintendo waifus? Sure.
>>320749876
Project M is the definition of fun chaos
>>320755353
Yeah, if 3DS had Smashville and the pirate stage from WW it would be perfect.
>Corneria
>that Paper Mario Stage
>Arena Fox
>Wairoware stage
>Brinstar
>that NSMB2 stage
>you will never play with your friends in them
>>320755932
They really need to fix the CSS on the Wii U version.
>>320756129
How?
Besides getting rid of the Miis obviously
>>320756072
I know that feel, anon.
>Magicant
>SNES F-Zero
>Mii Hotel
>Gameboy Dreamland
>>320756207
I dunno, maybe putting characters next to others from the same series
>>320755973
I don't give a shit about competitive play. Melee is better on a casual level.
Good gameplay isn't only for tourneyfags.
this is why games are becoming so simplistic and easy, /v/.
>>320756467
This
>>320742791
well, you know, if you're just fucking around between the games with casual play then there probably aren't any noticeable differences.
but if you looked at the deeper intricacies of sm4sh and melee they are quite far apart. the difference in mechanics ultimately results in radically different gameplay. people who liked melee wanted an offensive oriented game with good movement options, but sm4sh presented a more neutral/reaction based game.
>>320757025
>there probably aren't any noticeable differences.
Fuck off Sakurai. My 10-year-old nephew was able to notice how you fucked up the physics after Melee.
>>320742791
>There are people who don't just host Smash marathons with their friends, starting with Smash 64, then Melee, then Brawl, then Sm4sh as the night progresses
You're all faggots and don't know how to enjoy video games.
>>320757897
I do 64, Melee, and Project M, usually.
>>320755640
>claims post is the stupidest of the year
>what you said is literally the most flawed, retarded, broken statement i've said written down today. no literally, this is hurting me head
I'm going to refrain from writing an essay, but jesus christ, the irony here.
You do realise that gameplay is like, supposed to NOT have glitches in it right? But of course, if something ISN'T supposed to have bugs, that means you should ignore the bugs that are there, right? Oh wait, wrong, because you're a fucking mongoloid. FUCKING MONGOLOID.
>>320758075
Glitches do not equate to poor gameplay.
Good gameplay w/ glitches is still good gameplay.
Bad gameplay w/o glitches is still bad gameplay.
>People tell you Brawl sucks in comparison to Melee just because it isn't a viable E-Sport
>You have to bring out the list again.
>>320758594
Hell, the entirety of Halo 2's multiplayer proves you correct.
>>320758706
This tbqh fami. Why hold the game to general standards such basing your opinion on a game's story, music, gameplay, and control when you can focus on a niche aspect?
>>320758594
...except I never stated that gitches mean the gameplay is flat out bad. It's just vital that you look at bugs when reviewing gameplay itself.
>>320746102
Some more than others
>>320755871
It is not.
>Splatoon devs actually care about making a balanced competitive game
>Splatoon's competitive scene is still nowhere
>Sakurai doesn't give two shits about competitive play
>Smash 4 has a thriving competitive scene with players being sponsored and thousands of people watching tournaments
I agree OP, I'm sick of people giving me gameplay reasons to hate Smash 4.
It's new and it looks flashy and colorful, that's all anyone should want. You're a butthurt faggot if you want to play Smash because of some gay metagame or mechanical reason.
Just mash buttons like the rest of us and be happy you ungrateful twats. We don't need triple-dick-airs or aerial-down-rapes to be happy.
It's your own fault if you don't like Smash 4.
>>320760951
Is there a point in this post?
I wish Smash was MORE FLOATY!
>>320758706
>>320758982
this IMO
Brawl was one of the best games in the series because it gave the most content. The gameplay doesn't matter. It's all about how much it offers.
I spent hours in brawl, way more than I ever did in Melee. Babies can fuck themselves if a little tripping makes them burn their tendies
Brawl should be the new competitive standard.
>>320756458
They do, then its the 3 clones, 3 third parties and dlc in order of release.
>playing a game for more than a week
What are you, gay? Smash 4 was released like a year ago. Unless they make some new characters for it, there's no reason to be playing it at all.
Enjoy your party game and be happy.
>>320762191
I agree with everything but the last sentence.
