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Opinions on the latest TF2 patch?
>>320738105
Haven't been able to check it out yet? Give me a run-down, /v/.
>>320738295
Pyro is completely worthless now, Demoknight got some nerfs, Sentry got a small nerf when getting sapped.
>new weapons are literal reskins because valve can't bother to model shit anymore
this is a joke
>>320738397
What have they done to pyro now, niggas been shit for ages
>>320738528
They turned the Phlog into an OP piece of shit and nerfed the Degreaser and Axtinguisher into shit.
>Charge'n Targe...give it fire immunity!
>REEEEE
>okay nevermind take it away again...
Why do they even care about balance THIS Much? It's still fun to use weapons, but i think they should focus on making new weapons rather than trying to balance all the gimmicks
I WANT IT
I got a Strange Factory New Brain Candy Minigun yesterday and I can't use the fucking Market until the 1st so by the time I'll be able to sell it it'll be worth 5 fucking dollars
>>320738295
http://www.teamfortress.com/?tab=updates
>>320738397
>Pyro is worthless now
>People SERIOUSLY used anything other than Stock FT + Shotgun + Powerjack
Shiggyru miyamoto
>2015 years after the birth of Jesus H. Christ
>STILL playing Team Lebbit 2
No one buys those fucking shit skins
Not worth it to pick up the pass
I bought 3 of them on 3 accounts
FUCK
Atleast I unboxed a Strange Factory New weapon which I sold for 18 bucks so I got my money back I guess
Why are they forcing Miss Pauline into everything?
>>320738665
>they should focus on making new weapons rather than trying to balance all the gimmicks
Yeah, as if Pyro isn't shit enough already.
anybody who's been playing since hats were introduced is an idiot
>>320738692
Forgot my pic
I wamt this thing so bad
>>320738105
People keep telling me that puff n sting combo is dead but i've been doing it all the time since the new update. Also dat phlog buff.
Phlog gets uber when he turns on his buff.
Miss Pauling's a cutie. :3
>>320738641
the degreaser/axtinguisher combo has been overpowered since release. Literally for years
>>320738805
Well they certainly are trying to kill it.
>>320738665
afterburn goes away if you charge
"People still play TF2?"
>>320738105
Doesn't really matter because i use LMAOBOX
Can't wait for competitive to come out
>>320739009
it was never overpowered, everything else pyro was underpowered because it is still a bad class
I'm loving it because of all the salt generated from Pyros upset that their OP combo has been nerfed
>Take the only fun sword
>Remove what makes it fun
>Buff most useful class
>Nerf most useless class
>>320738397
>Pyro is worth
>Now gets heals from extinguishing allies
>Now has less damage falloff at range so their flamethrower is even stronger
>No more damage penalties on alternate flamethrowers
>Phlog now makes them immune to dmg while activating so no more blowing the cunt up before he goes mega-crit/full heals
I bet you're one of those faggots who uses the Axtinguisher as a crutch for your lack of skill, since that thing got nerfed to shit while everything else about them is better than ever.
>Demoknight got some nerfs
Where exactly did they get a nerf, other than Sword draw speed? All shields now deal damage at all ranges and crit % builds up based on how long you charged, with a guaranteed crit at full charge, and spoilers: Not all of his weapons are swords, he has an axe, a frying pan and others. True Demoknights are actually DemoPans. Caber demos aren't demoknights, they're suicide bombers and yes that got nerfed.
>Engie will never ever get another sentry change like the mini-sentry or even wrangler
why live?
>>320738414
>anymore
lol
So much for new guns.
All we are going to get from now on are shitty skins nobody gives a fuck about.
Patching this cadaver is completely pointless. It's way too fucking late for anyone who originally gave a shit about the game to come back and play it. I know nobody who still plays it, and my whole friends list used to. The biggest joke was that the biggest part of the update was the focus on new cosmetic items before we even got any patch notes or news about the new maps. AND THEY'RE COMMUNITY MADE.
TF2 devs have the best job in the fucking world, just let the community make your content for you and sell it, taking the majority of the profit for 0 work.
>haven't played in months
>play for 5 minutes
>remember why I stopped playing
The magic is gone friends.
>>320739337
That picture is wrong. Pyro has a fuckload of weapons and Engie doens't need more "weapons", he needs new buildings and alternate PDAs.
>>320739105
>animeposter being nothing but human trash
Oh boy
who would've thought
>>320739060
Yeah...and I get it, that's a better mechanic. It makes more sense...but...
All these weapons were fine at their best. Make them all Over-powered, and if someone complains, buff the counter class just a little
Like instead of Fire Immunity on the Charge'N Targe, and Pyros complain..then make it so the Axetinguisher, when hitting a Demoman, drops their Charge meter to 0, and the Sharpened Volcano Fragment could be the only other weapon to cause fire damage to a Demoknight.
See, these changes are cool and don't harm the weapons
>>320738105
Vaccinator is a lot better now, I can actually get charges in a reasonable amount of time.
>>320738938
This is the most bullshit thing in TF2
FOR
WHAT PURPOSE
>Can no longer be backstabbed
>Can no longer be headshot
>Can no longer be airblasted
>Can no longer be debuffed
>Can no longer be backburned
>Can no longer be sticky trapped
>Can no longer be taunt killed
>Can no longer be out-DPSed
It was one of the only drawbacks the phlog had.
Seriously suck my fucking dick, Valve.
>>320739462
>the magic is gone
This exactly. The magic was in playing with the same people though. I used to play with a group of people for years and that was fun an heck. But then most of them became hardcore bronies and pissed off to their gay horseshit roleplaying servers so fuck them.
>>320738105
>six fucking dollars just to grind for skins I have to pay even more for
>>320738757
>>320739183
Stop running at people in open fields you fucking retards and use him as a Defense/Support class
God damn
>>320738938
>>320739889
>Phlog taunts
>your pyro airblasts him
>He skips the rest of the taunt animation and is now killing everyone near him
This is a nerf you fags
The weapons look pretty nice and the balance changes are pretty good, though I'm a little bitter because I like demoknight.
>>320739909
>But then most of them became hardcore bronies and pissed off to their gay horseshit roleplaying servers so fuck them.
jesus christ what. Most of the people I played with just got bored and fucked off.
TF2 is still alive?
>>320741005
Sadly
>>320740476
Demoknight was always by far the worst loadout in the game, why the fuck they nerfed it I'll never know.
It's a fucking MELEE class in a game where everybody else has guns.
It's like playing a Common Infected in L4D. And they fucking nerfed the thing that made him even ALMOST not a joke. Valve seriously has no idea what they're doing. They should have at least increased the health and speed cap on the eyelander, or made the boots do something better. I don't know why they aren't even trying to sidegrade the shields and boots, the launchers are both amazing weapons.
When will Volvo implement CSGO style of map picking so it's easier to search and play the maps you like instead of picking categories like KOTH and you get some shitty map like koth_suijin?
For fuck sakes, they already copied CSGO's operations, weapon skins, and cases. Just let me select the maps.
>>320741297
Demoknight was OP if you knew how to use him.
Almost every direct hit was an instant kill, and with the eyelander + tide turner you'd gain health, speed, and charge recovery for each successful kill. You could easily chain kills.
>>320739183
>Puff 'n' Stink pyros
>not overpowered
Have fun getting airblasted into a corner and hacked to pieces. Or if you have afterburn immunity, you'll just get puffed in the air and have the reserve shooter shoved up your ass
>>320741383
It already is an option.
Go onto Multiplayer, go onto gamemode, go onto view servers.
>>320738692
Just trade it for keys and sell those nigger.
Still waiting for that matchmaking update.
Any day now.
will I command more respect if I get an unusual hat and australium medigun with sheen?
>>320741587
I mean selecting maps across gamemodes. So I can pick cp_badlands, koth_viaduct, pl_badwater, and then just hit "Find Game" to load me into one of those maps.
am i the only pyro main who uses the stock shotgun a lot? its fucking ridicolous
>>320741854
stock shotty is seriously underrated
when I actually played TF2 I sometimes used it more than the flamethrower
>>320738105
meh, just getting bored of the same fucking classes. can't wait until overwatch so i can get away from these F2P mongrels.
>>320741805
when matchmaking happens i guess
>>320739337
>Pyro
>deprived of weapons
You mean Heavy
>>320738665
>Why do they even care about balance THIS Much?
Competitive and Overwatch, it's funny how they started paying attention to TF2 only when something else started to look dangerous.
I don't have a problem with no more weapons (except for Engi), I prefer balancing instead of them throwing more shit weapons at everyone.
>>320739337
Jesus this picture is ancient
>Grant Goodeve is back
cool
>>320741730
Any sort of unusual will get you respect. I unboxed an unusual flame thrower and the whole match afterwards I had pyros following me waiting for me to die so they could pick it up and youtubers following me around trying to get a good look at it
>>320741854
I use stock flamethrower and shotty, super great
>>320738397
Great Job Volvo
If you're having trouble killing phlog pyros you might actually be retarded.
I'd agree that it's fucking annoying as shit to fight in most cases but he has to way to fucking hurt you outside of his flamethrower range while it's active, just back the fuck up and reload.
If you're:
Scout: back the fuck up outside of his range and kill him when he stops taunting you have a massive range advantage if you're using the pistol and he can't catch you if you run.
Soldier: reload your rockets and back the fuck up out of his range and kill him when he stops taunting he can't reflect rockets.
Nother pyro: Kill him with your shotgun, stall him with the scorch shot or just run and make him waste it.
Demo: Set a sticky trap slightly in front of him since the uber lasts like a fourth of a second after he finishes taunting or just fucking pipe him since he can't reflect.
Heavy: Back the fuck up and mulch him before he reaches you. You do about the same damage as him during the crits but have better range and more HP.
Engineer: Crits don't effect buildings, if you're doing minis you have no excuse since the combined damage of the sentry plus your shotgun/ pistol should fucking destroy him.
Sniper: Charge up a body shot and knock him down to 25 HP your team or your SMG should finish him.
Spy: The uber actually kind of fucked the spy but you can still probably revolver him to death of you get enough distance.
Medic: Run away, you're faster than him.
This all assumes 1:1 fights but since this is a team based game you have even less of an excuse when your whole team gets fucking wiped by the phlog pyro. Turn off your bukake nightcore Tomas the tank engine funny meme song and listen for the pyro's taunt sound then focus him.
If anything they may need to make the crits a little harder to get since the recent flamethrower buff made all of them do way more damage.
>>320742313
>Use Gold Rocket launcher
>Both teams soldiers hunt me down to pick up my RL
Chill faggots
>>320738105
>Opinions on the latest TF2 patch?
people still play TF2?
>>320739909
>tfw when I can't find any good 32 player servers anymore
Or maybe I'm just bored of the game, I can't pinpoint what's my problem here.
>>320741383
complete TF2-newfag detected
>not using server browser
I just wish it wasn't the actual smissmas update.
But besides that, I like how some of the gameplay changes are global like the faster weapon switch speed. I'd like if the team did more changes like that.
I'm also glad more people are using the Panic Attack now. It was good before this patch but now it feels a whole alot better to use now.
>>320742435
>32 player servers
>good
Pick one
>>320741530
Pre-nerf puff and sting could fucking kill other pyros, the weapon switch was bullshit
>>320742620
Well, maybe not good, butfun
>>320742452
>open up server browser
>le epic rtd insta respawn bot filled ponyville servers
>other servers that are populated are 2fort 24/7
>just want to play some 5cp or KOTH
>>320742435
>good 32 player servers
>>320742435
The problem is that more people are playing Valve servers.
I don't know why they like them so much, they're not as active and have plenty of players that leave the server with only 8 or less players in it after a map/round or two.
Even 24/7 servers with 24 player slots are more fun then regular Valve servers.
>>320742584
It isn't. Smissmas 2015 Mystery Gifts are dropping but you can't do anything with them right now.
>>320742761
>Go into the bottom right of the server browser
>type CP_ or KOTH_
>pay attention to the server tags
>Get a good server
It's not so fucking hard you matchmaking brain damaged players.
>>320742313
>Done 50 tours in MVM
>Not a single goddamn aussie
>These 1 tour FAGGOTS that play spy or pyro and die a million times and blame you get one on their first tour
Is there any point to getting one of the coins or whatever, or is it too late to make a profit?
Does the trade in thing still work? Could I just buy shit from the first run for pennies and hope I get lucky with something expensive?
>always use grenade launcher, tide turner and eyelander
>always use shotgun and homewrecker
Got no problems with this update
>>320742414
>put on my tryhard sniper cosmetics and professional killstreaks
>get focused by literally everyone on the server, aim bouncing makes it impossible to hit shots
>switch to stock everything and gibus
>unstoppable killing machine because nobody expects me to be good
>"Someone spectate this guy I think he's hacking"
>>320743252
>playing mvm for gay cosmetic items
>>320743393
>tfw sold my gibus
Regretted it ever since
RIP engie. You were too pure for this game.
>>320743392
Mini crits on tide turner now kinda sucks, but the ability to remove debuffs at will more than makes up for it. Also the +75% charge on melee kill instead of charge kill is pretty amazing.
>>320743473
You're gay
>Played for almost 7 years now
>over 7000 hours of game time
>I still have a bronze badge
>>320743252It's more cost efficient to just buy the aussies you wantAfter 150 tours I have sold all 4 of the aussies I got
>>320742073
This. I want to give someone else a shot. Would be great to get away from the free players as well.
>Mfw most of you faggots started playing after F2P
>>320743809
I didn't start PC gaming until 2012
>>320743175
Valve servers are consistent.
They actually have people playing in them, and if they don't their quickplay option makes sure to dump people in them pretty quickly. Most community servers sit at 12/24 bots for entirely too long, have shitty ads, and are usually just 24/7 dumpsbowl or other shitty maps.
The playerbase isn't even that much better in community servers either, most pubs in TF2 are pretty much decided by the top 3 players in the game and how many of them are on the same team.
>>320743204
Except 5cp and AD share the same cp_ map name and sometimes I want to play random maps but filter out shitty maps and do this across game modes. There's literally nothing wrong with the CSGO options which lets you select what maps you want to search for.
>mfw pubstomping with 2 friends with Phlogs
You faggots need to learn how to have fun
>>320738105
is it another pay update? does anything drop or do you need keys? I stopped playing when they started charging for updates.
>>320741530
>the close range class can kill you at close range
No shit, mouthbreather. Every other class can outrange and backpedal against him.
>>320738105
I haven't played too too much in a long time and it just seems like every update now they add stuff that you have to pay for in order to even enjoy it, like I mean correct me if I'm wrong but you have to now pay for a thing to be able to play the thing that gets you the box that you have to pay something else to unbox? This is really fucking silly now. So what this means there's no random Christmas box drops for just playing now?
Not to mention the fact that I don't own a smart phone means they forced onto me a trade waiting period.
>>320744554
they charge for stupid reskin bullshit, not actual content
>>320744697
too bad stupid reskin bullshit is almost all of the stuff they add these days, if they even do that. I guess it's nice to have balance changes.
>tfw entire team including me goes phlogs
>literal genocide, the team cant even open spawn doors without getting roasted to a crisp
thanks valve for breaking this game again :^)
>>320744629
With puff sting it was more like
>the close range class is GUARANTEED to kill you at close range
Airblasting someone into a corner and meleeing them with a one hit kill axe in the span of half a second is not difficult to pull off or fun to play against. There is no good counter for it short of knowing exactly where the pyro is at all times so you don't get flanked. Even the scout and spy(the classes built around being in the enemies flank and sneaking around) can be denied after catching someone off guard depending on the player's skill. With puff and sting you're dead as soon as you're airblasted, no class can deal with it.
All they did now was transfer the damage over to the flamethrower part of it, he can still kill people well at close range but he has to work for it like every other class.
>>320738105
This latest update means I'm leaving TF2. It was fun while it lasted but I can't believe the dumb bullshit Valve has been pulling for the last few updates
>buff phlog which is already OP
>nerf jag even more than last time
>nerf the beggar's bazooka
>nerf market gardener to prevent fun
>nerf air strike in the dumbest way possible
>nerf axtinguisher
>buffed dead ringer in another dumb way
>nerfed tide turner despite the fact that it was already shit after the last patch
>nerfed rescue ranger
Honestly I've had enough of Valve's bullshit, I even feel like they might be trying to slowly kill of TF2 since the last few updates have been so fucking stupid. I'm selling all my shit and getting the fuck out.
>pic related: the new update
>Huntsman
>Can be fired while off the ground
>The base Flamethrower's damage fall off over distance has been decreased, resulting in higher damage output at range
thoughts? how exactly much was decreased?
>>320745573
It's like a 50% damage increase from what I've heard.
>>320745468
>Being mad that the Beginner's Bazooka, Dead Ringer, Asstinguisher, or Tide Turner got nerfed
Stay gone, faggot
⏗s⏗m⏗h⏗ ⏗t⏗b⏗h ⏗ ⏗f⏗a⏗m⏗
>>320738105
wasn't pauline or what ever her name is supposed to be canonically ugly
>>320745548
BCS in vs. saxton hale is going to be fun
>>320738105
it's all right.
>>320745723
how come half the text is boxes
>>320745548
is this...is this a fucking bane shop or am i just so fucking gone already
>>320745468
>nerf jag even more than last time
you mean when it became better than any other wrench?
>>320745849
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>>320741383
they just need to rename it csgo:wwII
>>320738743
I don't know but I hate it.
Comic Miss P is my waifu. Game Ashley Burch Miss P is fucking terrible.
>>320745849
thats what fills the space of letters you cant see. you got jap crap letters installed?
>>320745750
so it tomoko
>Haven't played in a Good Year or so.
>Get on
>43 Kills my first phog run
>That Invincibility plus free crits alt
What were there thinking when they made this patch?
>>320746291
I have no fucking clue. I've just played for about 3 hours and pretty much every pyro I've seen was running around with a phlog. If you have a pocket med you're fucking invincible
>>320746291
wait a minute it ubercrits? what in the fuck. It was already op.
>>320738105
My only opinion is that it isn't going to make me go back to the game.
>>320743805
That badge is stuck the way it is. They don't care enough to redo any of that now that F2P is here.
>Tfw playing a free weekend got me the Silver badge
I regret I never got to play in it's vanilla days, outside of the times I played it on PS3.
>>320738397
>Pyro is completely worthless now
>Heals from extinguishing
>All Flamethrower does greater damage long range
>Phlog makes you literal destroyer of worlds for 10 seconds
Just cause they broke the old meta doesn't mean they didn't replace it with a new, and drastically worse, one.
>>320745468
Market Gardener was honestly a little OP
It was one of those items that was supposedly balanced because bad people couldn't use it
>tfw friends no longer play TF2
Recently got back and it sure sucks dick i can't fuck around in MvM. At least pubs are populated but going solo ain't fun, most of the time.
And dam, new phlog is unexpected. It wouldn't be too bad if everyone could go super saiyan, at the very least, for a short period of time but only Pyro can.It's actually been my first time playing sniper ever and holy fuck was it comfy. Had 3 other good snipers and we were just a death wall of "nice shot m8".
>>320738397
And then,people ''tried'' the phlog.
>>320746069
Not even true though m8, it was only 'good' when used with the ranger, which got nerfed slightly as it should have
The jag turned a shit boring class into something I've wanted to play since day 1 and it was actually fun. Fun is hard thing to grasp i understand.
Mini-sentries are for faggots, but guess what? it's all you'll ever see from any engineer who wishes to be slightly offensive once again forever and ever. So enjoy that
Don't play engineer much, he's not even in my top 3 but anyone thinks these nerfs are justified is just flat out retarded
>>320746734
>It was one of those items that was supposedly balanced because bad people couldn't use it
Pyro has consistently been balanced entirely around bad people being unable to deal with it.
>>320747719
this
Look at the new pyro update: Using the degreaser/axtinguisher was pretty hard if you were shit or F2P, but if you could use it it was powerful. But wait! With this great new update, the only useful weapons are flamethrower or phlog, so even the most useless cunt can do well while the more experienced players are godlike.
>>320746108
It's inspired by the Cold War era, not WW2.
>>320738105
>christmas update is content you have to pay $6 for
>>320748771
christmas spirit!
>>320748771
Its not the smissmas update yet
>>320738397
has spy been buffed yet?
fuck volve for ruining my kunai + deadringer combo
>>320746291
>43 Kills
Keep dreaming, m9.
I don't get the salt about the phlog, i played heavy all these days and it's only a problem when the phlog pyro is pocketed. When encountered alone, they are a pretty easy target.
>inb4 HURR HOOVY IZ NUUB CLASS
Oh shit, i am sorry for playing the class a team often needs instead of being the trickstabbin, trick shootin, rocketstabbin faggot that mains one class for his MLG frag montage on youtube.
>Scout hardly gets nerfed because the vast majority of players are too shit to use him properly.
>Actually got buffs this patch
Feels good man. Crit-a-Cola is still insane but no one seems to care because no one uses it.
>>320742231
Tokyo Ghoul was a waste of time.
Not jsut the anime adaption being gay as a nigger in a dress. But over-all it really is just bad. Even Bleach is better, but none of you fucks actually willing to admit it
>buffing the Phlog
I don't understand this at all. Wasn't this the weapon that everybody always complained about already?
>>320749231
>Thinking it's hard to get 43 kills in pubs
Anon you have more understanding of the game than the standard player just by saying that Phlog is only difficult when pocketed.
People straight up run into Phlog Pyros and still can't deal with afterburn in general.
>>320749126
Dead Ringer got buffed a bit, think it grants 75% initial damage reduction instead of 50% so you might survive some more.
Stock still master race but i do have fond memories of Dead Ringer when it just got released. At least it's not C&D with which 99% of people crouch walk all the time.
>tfw you will never a Miss Pauling
>>320748560
you wut?
>>320742231
You are part of them problem
>>320749526
Her new lines are pretty fantastic.
>>320749675
Her new lines are awful and I hate you.
>>320749518
The only fun was shitting on 60 hp knowing you would insta die from anything unless you got stabs off.
The new dead ringer is useless.
Completely ignoring that tf2 is already unbalanced as it is and Spy and Pyro are the least powerful classes in 6v6 etc.
Valve's fixation with balancing a party game is sad.,
>>320749231
>Plays Heavy
>Thinks 43 kills is somehow difficult to achieve
m8
Also don't bring shame to the Heavy with your shitposting. He already has enough stigma to deal with.
>>320749518
It's actually a pretty big buff since Spies can now survive crit rockets and stickies with the DR.
>>320749750
I'm sorry you hate fun.
>>320749498
Are we talking about 43 kill streak or 43 kills for the whole round, including deaths of the player?
>straight up run into Phlog Pyros
Agreed. For new players, this update must feel like hell on earth.
>>320749874
I don't hate fun, I just hate Ashley Burch and her horrid acting.
I feel like only scout mains lose their shit over this thing,It pleases me.
>>320742231
I understand why, but it's hilarious looking at how few weapons classes like Spy and Engineer have in comparison to the other. Spies still only have one other option for sapping. The blatant favoritism for Soldier and Demo is just annoying.
>>320741383
Fuck you, matchmaking is fucking shit
Good changes:
>Sentry guns can't fire .5 sec after being unsapped
>Spy cloaks remove milk/jarate faster
>Axtinguisher fixes
>Medic buffs. All of them.
Terrible changes:
>Half Zatoichi nerfed severely for no reason whatsoever, basically made useless
>Air-Strike nerfed for no reason
>Phlog buffed for no reason
>New contract shit
>All the new maps are horrendous
>PAY MONEY TO GET GUNS THAT PROBABLY AREN'T STRANGE!
Overall, terrible
daily reminder they stopped updating day of defeat source for these "updates"
>>320740292
Except for the part where he can now taunt anywhere risk free, because he's now completely invuln to damage. They also buffed its damage to compensate anyway
>>320749916
A 43 kill streak is not too unfeasible in pubs but this would require playing very safe and boring(Staying near spawn on like 2fort or some shit) or having a medic on you as a Heavy or Pyro in a very bad game of pubs(Like Valve servers or something)I put Pyro there because for some reason lots of pub players can't deal with him at all. He also doesn't have to reload, he just needs ammo drops so this makes him more "mindless" when going on a kill streak against bad players.
>playing random2fort
>air strike soldier for muh 8 rocket clip
>do nothing but conga in the enemy intel room with their intel
>some scout with fancy killstreak items and stuff but isn't one of those neon green/pink fag furry types there as well
>tard team keeps trying to get their intel back and the scout is just wrekcing them and getting to 40+ killstreaks in their basement by himself
I forget how much fun being stupid in tf2 can be sometimes.
>>320750031
>Air-Strike nerfed for no reason
Air-Strike was a little too good, it's fine now.
Also the biggest injustice was them completely destroying the Claidheamh Mor. Nerfed and changed. Good god why? It wasn't even that good.
>>320749943
Yes, especially funny on king of the hill maps.
Fucking mainfags, half the team goes scout and then is super pissed for losing round after round.
>>320743805
Same here, been playing somce release
>>320738105
Play overwatch you fucking Russian or hipster.
>>320750031
>Half Zatoichi nerfed severely for no reason whatsoever, basically made uselessFull heals off any bad player made a Demoknight with skill able to live for a long time
>Medic buffs. All of them.Medic didn't need any buffs
>>320749760
>The only fun was shitting on 60 hp
I remember playing pubs on first day and people didn't even know what DR was, you pretty much always had a get out of jail card. Some people even thought spies were hacking or admins giving themselves god mode or some shit.
>>320749769
Previous DR was so bad you couldn't survive a single crit rocket? Damn.
But is DR even usable now? Most people seem to check for that shit but granted i don't play spy often because there is always no less than 3 spies already.
>>320750031
Could you explain why you think that sentry change was good?
>>320750031
>Half Zatoichi nerfed severely for no reason whatsoever, basically made useless
This one hurts me real deep. I always used to run the zatoichi, it was just so exciting to go on a tear as solider then get that melee crit and be back at full. It was also the only demoknight I ever wanted to play.
>>320750031
>Air-Strike nerfed for no reason
>A remotely decent soldier could load up so many extra rockets they basically don't even need to aim
What'd they do to the Half Zatoichi, though?
>>320743175
No butthurt admins
No fucking ads
No regular cunts whos dick everybody sucks
No donator benefits
Always full
Did i mention no admins?
>TF2
>Playing Soldier.
>Pyro to me has always been the most cancerous class, especially when good players reduce your counterplay to almost nothing because they reflect every projectile.
>It's even worse when you have to deal with people who are using auto-reflect hacks.
>Even if they aren't cheating, enjoy being airblasted consecutively with no ability to strafe when they get too close, all the while the enemy Pyro self-flagellates in ecstasy because he managed to get the world's easiest air flare shot crit.
>Degreaser makes this even worse by arbitrarily giving Pyro a weapon-switch advantage and access to a gun that insta-gib you if you're pushed into the air.
>Overall just not very fun to play against even though I still considered the Pyro to be underpowered because its skill ceiling was too low and not useful enough overall to outclass a Scout or Soldier.
>This latest update comes out.
>Remove consecutive airblast lock up.
>Encourages every Pyro to use the flamethrower that has no airblast potential.
>Degreaser nerfed into the ground.
>Weapon quick switch balanced for all classes now.
>mfw everyone is whining that Phlog is somehow OP when I'm just juggling them well out of their crit flame range and scoring easy kills.
>>320745548
Yes ive been abusing it to hell
Also use the cleaners carbine with the bushwaka, its seriously OP
Tfw xbox 360 community is still very alive and no updates. The magic lives.
>>320750305
DR is fine now. It's just not broken like it used to be.
I miss puff n' sting.
>>320750301
>Full heals off any bad player made a Demoknight with skill able to live for a long time
Yes, that's the point. The downside was, a pair of good players or a single sentry could wreck your shit.
It made Demoknight fun.
>>320750312
It's good for both Spies, who now get a half second extra and were in desperate need of some sort of buff to their destructive abilities, and keeps mediocre engineers from dying by accident when their gun reactivates.
>>320750352
No random crits, only gives you half your max health.
>>320743175
Because they have DIFFERENT MAPS, not only 2fort goldrush badwater turbine.
>>320749231
You are aware heavy is pyro hard counter, right?
Of course heavy destroys pyro. That's fucking obvious.
>>320750748
>m-muh puff n sting ;C
Anyone who actually wasted time switching to hit melee instead of just flamethrowering the guy down is actually an idiot. At the very least shotgunning your target is acceptable, but pulling out your melee to score a free kill and run the risk of being caught with your melee out when your flamethrower would have killed him faster is just a dumb move.
>>320750921
This, valve maps rotate constantly
>>320750748
It was balanced but unbelievably boring to play against.
What I really miss tho Is gas jockey,saharan spy and can't be headshotted sniper In sniper only servers.
Good times.
>>320750879
>Pair of good players
They don't exist when a Demoknight is allowed to shine at all.
>Single sentry
That's what your grenade launcher was for.
Not that it wasn't fun using something like the Half Zatoichi and getting full heals off any kill and absolutely infuriating any Pyro or Soldier you killed, but I would assume it got nerfed because Valve finally decided people complained hard enough.
>>320750995
It took longer to kill a player with a flamethrower than switching to the axtinguisher and getting the kill then switching back to the flamethrower.
You can't get caught with your pants down because the switch time was literally so far that you had no noticeable downtime between weapons.
>>320749231
>Be a Soldier main.
>My team is getting wrekt, trying my hardest to carry but it feels like the second I die my whole team gets set back to last point.
>Try to go Heavy, instantly get wrekt by the plethora of bullshit you need to watch out for and also having zero mobility to dodge it.
>Go back Soldier.
>Someone else on my team goes Heavy, gets a Medic too.
>tfw I'm absolutely wrecking the enemy team now because I can play around a combo that the enemy team must actively focus or avoid that allows me to get easy flanks all game long.
You might go unappreciated, but I'm always giving you a nod here Heavy-bro.
>>320750995
Flamethrower didn't kill them faster dingus, that was the whole point of pulling out a different weapon. Even with weapons that the flamethrower did more DPS than it still made sense to pull it out because the burst from the other weapon still meant they'd die faster since less damage in a shorter period can still kill faster than more damage over a sustained duration.
Also weapon swap speed was so fast you couldn't get caught with the wrong weapon unless your reflexes were just abysmal.
>>320751098
Also what I mean when I said
>They don't exist when a Demoknight is allowed to shine at all.
is that Demoknight of any kind would get destroyed by a pair of good players no matter how you look at it regardless of sword/shield/whatever
So if a Demoknight was doing good, there was no good players to go up against in the first place.
>>320751096
But it was amazing to play as. It was always a rush getting a good airblast and hearing the crit sound and the kill register
>>320751268
This
>>320751268
Heavy-Medic combos are still the strongest thing in the game at most skill levels.
>>320751098
>Single sentry
>That's what your grenade launcher was for.
Which is why the honorbound aspect was perfect. Because once you took it out, you committed to it until someone died. So if you fucked up, missed a kill, or did anything wrong, you were stuck with it.
It was perfect.
>>320750589
>people using auto-reflect hacks
Reflecting is really fucking easy dude
You sound like one of those faggots that gets headshot and thinks the other person must be hacking, what a little bitch
Just use your shotgun, it fucking pounds if you don't suck
pyro is the smartest played as a DM class rather then flank, why go head on and die by range when you can spam scorch shot into the crowd until your rage bar fills up and only go into the crowd when you have kritz. You leave after words and repeat the spam until the next rage bar. Ive had much more fun doing that then just spamming airblast and flaregun.
>>320750418
>Join a server
>NO SPAWN CAMPING
>NO BACK CAPPING
>NO TRASH TALKING
>NO VOTE KICKING
>NO CAMPING TELEPORTERS
>ATTEMPTING TO DO ANY OF THESE THINGS RESULTS IN A BAN!
Non-Valve servers range from tolerable to horrendous. None are good.
>>320751605
Not him but
>fire rocket
>clearly goes either past him or its about to hit him from behind where he cant even see it
>gets reflected back at me
Explain this bullshit
>>320738105
>Opinions on the latest TF2 patch?
Is it patching the game back to vanilla?
If not, I don't give a shit.
>>320750589
>auto reflecting hacks
Thinking now, there must've been tons of mad soldiers I've left behind in my pyro days.
I got the timing of the rocket launcher down perfectly cause I also played soldier, so I knew the time between each shot when the soldier was holding the fire button down. So I would predict the firing time and then airblast a few moments before he shot the rocket, doing a insta crit reflect, almost always killing the soldier on the spot.
Always felt good to do it.
>>320751760
The sad thing is that when a game is alive community servers are at their best but when the game isn't alive community servers become only the worst trash.
>>320751760
>>NO BACK CAPPING
Whats the point of that? Is back cap considered BM or something?
>>320751761
Airblast is actually just broken. It fucks up momentum in a way that makes no sense and reflects things it shouldn't
Tf2 is a broken as fuck game
>>320751268
Different Heavy player, but I'll carry entire pubs on my shoulders sometimes. But the feeling is mutual, even if we never even speak to each other, it feels good getting some jolly co-operation in with another competent player.
>instantly get wrekt by the plethora of bullshit you need to watch out for and also having zero mobility to dodge it
This feel, mang. I basically pop around every corner with my minigun revved or swooce in from above if possible.
>go sniper to relax at 2fort for a few minutes
>people keep doing same shit
>don't even aim just place crosshair in advance and wait
>it works
All this time i thought you had to follow their head with your crosshair but you actually make it so their head enters into the dot.
>>320752119
Sorry to break this to you, but it's called "leading a shot". Good job finally figuring it out, though.
>>320752026
I guess because it's unfair since the team is typically down when the first cap is taken, so it gives them a second to regroup.
But that's bullshit. It's just because whiny admins are tired of losing in a humiliating fashion.
Also, I remembered another I got kicked for:
Destroying teleporter entrances, because they equated it to spawn camping.
>Valve makes their own rarity system, instead of just letting the community decide what skins are good
Fuck this shit man, I looked at all the skins that I wanted to get, then checked their rarity and they're all assassin or above. That's some serious bullshit
>>320752119
theres two ways to snipe, its easier to predict where they are going to be but actually tracking if your good enough is devastating.
>>320752960
For being fair the community is full of bronies and MLG kiddies, of course it's a no brainer putting rainbow grenade launchers or purple lighting sniper rifles as the ultimate rarity type of skins.
Hell, thank god it's that way, I can get the good skins for dirt cheap while faggots pay 10+ bucks for their shitty ones.
>>320751268
OP here, thank you for the appreciation, you deserve it too. For me, rocket jumping is just not my strong suit, aka i suck at it. I respect players who are very good at it. I takes a lot of practice being so higly mobile.
>>320752478
I kinda knew about it but never really paid much mind to it because i couldn't hit shit at first, thought it was more of a secondary method and not for me.
But after committing to it results came fast, feels good.
>>320753083
Wish i could track like a pro but that stuff's very high level. Doubt i will ever reach because it's soul crushing to play sniper when you know you could pick something else and have more chances of capping them points\flags, not like anyone else cares though. Wish i could pick sniper when my team already has 6 of them without giving a fuck and just go and train my aim.
>>320750210
Being a shit is great, especially on 2fort.Apart from conga I love shred alert for how fucking garish it is
>>320753258
My problem is that some new ones look really good but now they're gonna be rare as fuck to get. Mostly because I'm against opening crates since all I'll get is some battle-scarred mercenary pistol that I don't want.
>>320753258
>Not liking the rainbow grenade launcher
What are you, some kind of faggot?
>>320753928
opening crates is only for autismo traders. you hve to open hundreds of them and even then you have a high chance of never getting anything worth a shit.
>>320754250
Come on, anon. Don't tell me you actually think those green banana hat faggots with now pink weapons are actually funny, right?
phlog or pyro is not op or anything its just that 99% of the players love sucking dick
>>320739105
GET GOOD GET LMAOBOX
best $20 I ever spent
it's made playing tf2 so much fun, especially when an admin spectates you while you're using legit settings and declares you aren't a hacker
>>320754637
I fucking ruin hackers. I dont give a shit if you know I'm coming you gun die.
I kinda want to get into the game again, but then I realize they added particles on weapons and, rainbow skins and what not.
That must have raped the art style even more than Killing Floor.
Are there mods/servers that remove cosmetics?
>>320754402
No, Rainbow is just objectively the best color.
>>320738105
Valve killed TF2 with Dota and CS:GO
Even if they add competitive for TF2 it won't change anything especially with overwatch looming and their refusal to update TF2 with source 2.
>loose cannon nerf
>beggar's bazooka nerf
>degreaser nerf
>demoknight nerf
>reserve shooter nerf
>rescue ranger nerf
>medic buffs
>pyro requires DM instead of stunlock
>heavy melees have variety
>spy actually counters engineer
reminder that everyone complaining about the gameplay changes is a shitter who belongs in the garbage can
>>320755078
Yeah! just like Rainbow dash! my favorite pony! Can't wait to name my weapons like that!
>tfw b4nny ruined Pyro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5pZgph_ZaU
>>320754939
>Vaccinator is basically the anti-hacker gun
I love busting that thing out when faggots that hack using heavy or sniper join
>>320755302
>Being this much of a faggot
Sorry I'm not into le badass brown and black guns with fedorable WWII paint
However those roulette guns are pretty amazing
>>320755116
>Imfuckingplying the Loose Cannon deserved a nerf
>Being so bad you can't kill a demoknight
>>320755116
Dude they ruined those hwavy melee weapons, what the fuck are you smoking
>>320755674
>what is artstyle
you killed TF2
>>320749231
>tfw heavy mains
Dude were always top score, frag, and lowest deaths.
But of course everyone goes "LOL HE WENT RAGE HEAVY WHAT A TRYHARD" even though you've been on the same life as heavy
Or of course "lol noobclass try hard"
Tryhard has become the new "noobie"
>>320756231
>What is autism
You have it
Artsyle got killed a million years ago and me not buying a cool rainbow gun isn't going to bring it back
>>320738105
I want to cum inside Miss Pauling
>>320756505
At least I'm not spending money on a F2P game for a rainbow weapon, mr autismo.
>>320755032
yes its a simple setting in the cfg of the server.
>>320756590
>Spending money on things you like is bad
Some of us don't have to wait for mommy to give us an allowance, so we can actually afford to blow a couple dollars every now and then
>>320757146
Hey man, if you want to buy a romantic dinner for you and your gay friend it's fine by me, if you want to buy a gay ass rainbow weapon is fine too. I'd just rather spending that money in actual videogames.
>Reserve Shooter
>No longer mini-crits any airborne target (i.e. jumping). Target must be forced in to the air via blastjump, knockback, airblast, or grapple.
So they made the reserve shooter into a slightly faster to deploy regular shotgun with a smaller clip?
>>320757301
You're the gay one here, gaywad
>>320738105
Pretty solid seeing as how we're getting some sort of Christmas update as well.
Engineers nerfs are retarded, buff his weak weapons instead and don't make Sentries harder to protect.
Pyro changes aside from the airblast physics changes are all retarded
>>320757528
shotguns dont minicrit airborn players only the reserve.
>>320757623
whatever you say, homo
>>320755396
Oh hey, he uses the exact same crosshair I do.
>>320757528
Valve are prefectly fine with stock weapons being the best (more so now because skins)
This is why they nerfed the only decent flamethrower because they refuse to believe some stock weapons are underpowered.
>>320757743
I know you are but what am I
>>320757667
>shotguns dont minicrit airborn players
Neither does the Reserve Shooter.
>>320757839
a homo
>>320757939
it says it does it if they are legitimatly popped up in the air which was its original intent. so no jump sniping.
>>320758117
lets be real here, if you blast someone up in the air you are better off axing him on the descent as a pyro or just blasting him with rockets as a soldier.
>>320756320
>tryhard
Yeah, heard that a few times. Usually it helps to ask "so you don't like winning?" or some stupid shit like "you salty, m9?"
Thing is, i don't care what somebody says about the way i play.
If somebody annoyed me, i respond after the we win the round, calling my team hacking tryhards, "how dare you to win, you fucking tryhards?"....
I actually like that kind of bs, it adds some fun and makes winning even more rewarding.
But i am not always top scoring tho, sometimes top, sometimes in the middle ranks.
>>320755396
>let's make Pyro worse
>Valve actually does it
Also I can tell by the start of the video that he's a soldier main that only uses gunboats. If you don't want to get your rockets reflected use a shotgun nerd.
>>320758301
not really.
>>320758398
care to give a reason why axtinguising a falling, burning player for a crit is worse than shooting him with the mini criting reserve shooter?
>>320758301
>just blasting him with rockets as a soldier
First off you need to be able to reliably airshot with the rocket launcher, and depending on who you're playing against they may actually air strafe to avoid it.
Secondly, you're wasting two(or more) rockets on a kill when you can just use one rocket and a mini-crit shotty blast, rockets are much more valuable than shotgun shells so you're putting yourself at a slight disadvantage if someone else comes around the corner and picks a fight.
>>320758045
I'm rubber you're gay
>>320758680
its not better its just different. you get range and can empty the whole magazine into them before they hit the ground.
>>320757830
>Valve are prefectly fine with stock weapons being the best (more so now because skins)
>Literally everything that can replace Bonesaw,Fire Axe and shovel
>GRU
>Atomizer
>Sandvich
>Rescue Ranger
Not really.
>>320758794
then why don't you kiss me faggot?
>>320759209
Not in a million BILLION years
Is this game still worth playing? The last time I played was around 2013 and it was kinda going to shit, a lot of the skilled veterans were quitting.
>>320759209
>>320759294
you guys need to fuck and get it over with.
>>320759294
pss i knew it, you gay ass nigga
so gay you can't even kiss a man
>>320759209
>>320759294
>>320759409
my fucking sides
>>320758331
They really didn't make him that much worse though.
They defined the pyro's roles a lot better with his weapons. Now if you want to frag you have the phlog or backburner, if you want to airblast to defend sentries/play around the combo you have the stock flamethrower, and if you want the quick switch combos you have the degreaser(which can still airblast plenty of times even, it's 25 ammo instead of 20).
They got buffed at the higher skill level, but shitters in /v/ that have only ever played the easy one shot kill combos can't deal.
>>320742073
Overwatch is pretty much guaranteed to be F2P after the first couple months it comes out since it's pretty much a confirmed flop.
>>320750031
>>All the new maps are horrendous
stop right there casual scum
snowycoast is great
highpass is fun
vanguard is meh
landfall is irredeemable shit
>>320752960
>only skin i've wanted so far is the spooky purple revolver
>it's already cheap and will only crash
The best skins are never in the fucking crates, which is good. And yet there's no way to make them strange, fucking valve
>>320759013
Don't forget the Kritzkrieg, Crusader's Crossbow, Ubersaw, Amputator, Boston Basher, Jarate, Cozy Camper, Natascha, Homewrecker, Powerjack, Direct Hit, Wrangler, L'etranger, Ambassador, Quick Fix, and Half-Zatoichi.
>>320738105
im a bit miffed at the shield and sword nerf. specifically the timmy turner because it already got nerfed and the Claidheamh Mòr because its useless as fuck now. i'm still playing but not having the pinnacle of fun that i used too. at least the loose cannon is still good.
People still play TF2?
>>320759506
>Pyro was always an ambush class
>backburners to help that
>puff n sting if you wanted airblasts that didn't cost a 4th of your ammo
>Pyro still gets shit on if the enemy knows he's coming
>most classes have ways of extinguishing themselves or running away if they get lit
>before this update pyro was the shittiest class in TF2
>now he's still the shittiest class, except he's worse than before
>at least the astinguisher works again
>>320759530
>borneo, watergate
>powerhouse, probed
>snowplow, byre
>suijin, 2fort
Damn, I just realized this.
>>320750058
This is a good thing because it means that Day of Defeat Source didn't turn into an unplayable clusterfuck.
>>320759925
Yes, tens of thousands
>>320759530
>landfall is irredeemable shit
It basically fills 2fort's niche but better. It's a stalematey ctf map with a 2 level mid where you can dick around, but it's completely open as opposed to a tiny clusterfuck, the skybox is higher, there's no one way bullshit pond to fall into, the giant tree in mid helps stop sniper bullshit and adds upper fight areas, the intel room (or deck, i guess) is actually open and vulnerable, and the giant tree theme out-comfys 2fort by leaps and bounds.
>>320760176
yeah, instead, no one plays it
>>320760298
i said people
>>320738105
More worthless cosmetic editions and less than 2 weapons, just like every other TF2 update withint he past 3 years.
Worthless fillter garbage.
>>320755860
The knockback on loose cannon was kinda ridiculous.
>>320760620
>stalematey ctf map
>goodThe open intel space is pretty good though, but I don't like the mid at all. Didn't play it much yet though
>>320760750
That looks fucking disgusting
>>320761216
you never had a meatball sub? nigga you gay.
>>320761016
>stalematey ctf map
>good
Yes, good to fuck around on, not for serious play. And I think mid is pretty fun, but to each his own
>>320761321
No because meatballs go on spaghetti faggot
>>320761680
>muh spagetti.
you put some mozerrella on that bitch and toast the bread. tastes like that manass you love so much.
>>320751760
>Join server
NO VACCINATORS HEALING SNIPERS
>>320761948
AY FATTY BOOM BOOM
BOING BOING BOING
>>320761948
>Tastes like manass
That's what I figured, thanks for the heads up, queerbait
>>320738397
>pyro went from annoying / played by shitters to annoying / played by everyone
>worthless
>>320762514
but you love the buttmusk. Why are you lying to me.
>>320762019
>Equip Danger shield and sydney sleeper
>Get Vaccinator medic to constantly heal me
>Every kill, my medic comes out from cover and we both laugh taunt at the same time so we're both in the killcam
>>320762572
>Phlog played by everyone
FTFY
Its not going to work in any serious match when the enemy team knows what you're up to and how much damage you've done. Its a one trick pony. Meanwhile pyros who used to guard the combo or the flank are now soldier and scout food.
>still playing tf2 in 2015
time to end it all senpai
>>320762903
I hope you don't mind if I steal this.
>>320738105
TF2 is still getting patched?
Finally the pc users got fucked over on a game. The 360 and ps3 versions don't have all these bs updates and active communities. Don't gotta deal with all these Bullshit items.
>The Half-Zatoichi
>Now considered a sword (increased holster and deploy time and increased range)
> Honorbound changed. Deals 50 self-damage on holster if no kill was made. Cannot be holstered if player is below 50 life and no kill was made.
>100% life restore on kill changed to 50% health gain on kill that can result in overheal
> No random crits
Jesus christ why? Completely worthless
>>320763321
It's pretty much the community doing all of the work and Valve just adding shit to the game. They've pretty much got their actual staff working on Source 2 and Dota 2 now.
The biggest TF2 update was one that added like over 150 robot-themed hats and it was made completely by the community.
>>320763785
>> No random crits
They should've turned them into mini-crits, but it's better than them critting. I remember that shit critting almost every other hit back when I played, and I'd just one-shot anyone who wasn't a soldier or Heavy.
>>320763785
only good for building uber now
>>320760651
It's still there if you want it.
>>320763282
It's yours, my friend
>>320755529
just leave hte server
>>320738782
are they even trying
>>320741513
>loch-n-load used to kill scouts in one hit
I'm glad they listen to everyone that's upset
>>320738105
Who is she? r34 plox?
>>320765036
She's the administrator's assistant
>>320764026
a multiplayer game with no official bot support?
oh boy
>>320738397
>nerf two of the worst classes in the game
Good job, valve. Really hit it out of the park this time.
>>320738105
I haven't given a shit about tf2 for years, and this patch pretty much confirms that I will continue to not give a shit.
>>320743805
could be worse, i melted down an assload of duplicate weapons to fabricate headgear and wound up with this stupid thing
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Mark_of_the_Saint
>>320768554
>random hat crafting
Unless you're bored and swimming in metal, you trade for that shit. It's cheaper 9 out of 10 times and you're guaranteed to get what you want.
I haven't played TF2 since 2011. I am objectively a better person than anyone who continues to play it still.
Also fact, Valve sucks and they don't make video games anymore.
>>320768765
yeah i don't really want anything, just want to clear my inventory. and the idea of turning my crap into something valuable is quite enticing
>>320768836
>Valve sucks and they don't make video games anymore.
yeah we know, they've been a DRM and litigation only studio for two or three years now
hopefully they're just a failed console away from going tits up
>>320738725
dude, strange factory new skins can go for 200 dollars in some cases. You should have saved it and waited.
Also, it sounds like a lot of people in this thread don't really understand TF2's meta.
If any class got fucked the hardest this patch, it was engie.
>>320746258
>not having jap applocale
Do you even porn games?
>>320768554
if you have 3 Refined, just go into a trade server that's more than half full and say you have 3 ref and want to trade for hats.
or just go to trade.tf and say "3 ref, taking offers"
>>320738805
Everyone I've ever talked to about this who's played for more than a few months, agrees that axetinguisher was nerfed into only being used for fun. I don't get how people are saying that was the OP thing and not the much more necessary Reserve Shooter nerf. The axe was absolutely fine the way it was, if not under powered.
For real though, fuck the phlog, you literally just run into a group, then taunt for zero damage, then fucking murder everything.
>>320769694
>re-install TF2 in mid September
>can't buy a gun mettle pass so I just get some crates and open them
>first unbox is a Strange Factory New Aqua Marine
>didn't care for the skin, but fuck it, it's a strange
Although I will admit I'll trade it in a second if someone offers me a Strange Warhawk Rocket Launcher that's minimal wear or factory new
>>320738105
I refuse to play until axetinguisher is back to its original glory. Pyro was shit back then, and somehow they managed to make axetinguisher even worse? What the fuck valve.
They need to make Team Fortress 3 already and just port all the maps/weapons and items over, then add new items and maps. Expand the gameplay. Source 3.
Fucking VALVE doesn't want to make new games anymore.
Cool, they did a lot of balancing for much. Dunno how good it is, but it's more than they've done in years. It's times like these that make it feel like it still has a little bit pf life left and make me want to hop back on for another round.
I always liked the Phlog, so that's kinda cool, but I liked when people would interrupt my taunt early for me by moving me.
>>320769694
Dude, I was lucky that I sold it for that price
It was even the highest price someone bought it for so far http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Strange%20Corsair%20Scattergun%20%28Factory%20New%29 it says 22 bucks there but I said 18 bucks because that was my profit on it
I could just buy another one for less but I don't really see the point because other factory new strange weapons aren't expensive either
>>320769694
Yeah, these changes don't seem that bad. Not really that big enough to be a huge deal and some small stuff to be happy about, if you're into that.
>still playing or caring about TF2
The game went downhill fast after it went F2P. Nearly every update after that point was total shit.
>>320768765
This. I used to craft random hats, then learned every hat I wanted was worth 2/3rds the crafting cost.
>>320738105
people still play this?
>>320770161
What's the point of making a TF3 if they're just going to port everything? They need to start fresh or not bother enumerating it.
>>320768765
Where is this gif from?
>>320769792
but i don't want somebody's cheap hand-me-down, i want a chance at something rare
>>320771283
>>320770682
Le epic maymay
>>320770682
>>320771283
>enter a 300+ reply thread
>"People still play this?"
>>320771617
I guarantee most people do because of the market instead of actually playing the game. The market is obscenely bloated.
>>320770682
>Still being THIS salty for paying full price
Get over it, poorfag.
>>320771726
I doubt most people would bother with the market if they didn't enjoy the gameplay on some level.
>>320771892
He may be salty, but he's not wrong. F2P really dropped the quality of the players dramatically when it was introduced. Most servers only run stock because populating custom maps with the F2P fluff players is too difficult.
>>320771892
Except for the fact that the majority of the original community left after F2P made it even more full of little kids and cancerous fanbases. The game has been nothing but shitty rebalances, OP or useless weapons (or OP weapons made useless), broken promises, and a constant push to make the game more market-focused.
>>320772056
They sure as hell would. There's so much money to make if you dedicate to marketeering. It's not like CSGO, where there's hardly and gain. TF2 has tons of gain for the effort needed.
So here's the news with pyro.
Your effectiveness is entirely tied to your mojo now. You can slaughter giant groups of people with good mojo, bad mojo you are going to get raped by scouts.
>>320743590
If you want you could trade for a "Ghastlierest Gibus" which has a style that looks like the original gibus
>>320772297
I never understood why people whined Pyro was underpowered while they go and puff and sting masses of enemies.
Or tear through groups with easy peasy W + M1
Or render demomen and soldiers useless with airblast.
Or wield a free crits machine for even more w + m1
Or completely ruin the effectiveness of spy and promote paranoia
Or
>>320772691
Puff and sting was nerfed. I understand why, but it was also the only real viable move he had since full-on burning takes too long for any of the true assault classes.
>Or tear through groups with easy peasy W + M1
>Or render demomen and soldiers useless with airblast.
>Or wield a free crits machine for even more w + m1
>Or completely ruin the effectiveness of spy and promote paranoia
You pub exclusively, I see. Any player with a tiny bit of experience can neutralize a Pyro. Yes, even "useless" soldiers. Especially them if they know how to heckle.
>>320772959
And a Pyro of equal skill can still trump and do all that.
Is it just me, or has the new patch really fucking killed the game's performance?
I used to run the game fine but now I notice FPS drops, especially on maps like Sawmill.
>>320773085
I've seen about 2 godlike pyros in all my days. Meanwhile any soldier good enough to hit the ground more than holds their own. These "super pyros" are not half as common as you think.
>>320773202
That's only because after F2P Ghibus kids flooded the game with really bad Pyros because that and Heavy were the go-to classes. Before that the bad:good Pyro ratio had a much smaller gap
hey guys will you please join my server and add it to your favorites i have no clue how to populate this piece of shit
crits & random spread/dmg are disabled
ip: dudesa.me / 198.245.50.120:27015
>>320738105
I miss the TF2 good old days.
>>320773330
No matter how you slice it, Pyro is gimp compared to most any class. Getting in the kill zone exposes them to equal danger that their targets are in. In some cases, more since Pyros aren't even the most dangerous thing at their optimum range.
You will never see one pyro mow through an entire crowd unless you are on a Valve server. They are loud, they are easily outmaneuvered, and they are easily outdamaged.
>>320773863
Pyro IS the gimper though, for a lot of the other classes.
>>320773095
Get out of Steam beta
>>320772691
>Puff and sting masses of enemies
>t. soldier main
Flare does the same damage as ONE rocket and it's single fire and has one of if not the longest reload of any weapon in the game. It was good for killing 125s/weak 150 classes but that's it. It's nothing to a soldier or demo or heavy.
>Or render demomen and soldiers useless with airblast.
Even with stock demo and soldier have many ways around airblast. The RL can hit pyros consistently while being outside airblast range if you know where to aim. You have the shotgun. You can stagger your rockets, fake him out, or rocket jump around him to make it harder for him to land it.
Demoman can aim low or charge them. Demo can use grenades which outpace airblast. Demoman can backpadel and put stickies at his feet.
If nothing else the biggest advantage these two have is in a pyro duel they _ALWAYS_ have control of the situation. If you choose not to fire a rocket, what's a pyro going to do to you? Any critical damage done to you is always your mistake. If he tries to chase you can just RJ away and there's nothing he can do about it.
>Or tear through groups with easy peasy W + M1
Heavy does 5x the damage pyro does with 3x the range.
>Or wield a free crits machine for even more w + m1
You can just walk away from him you know and hit him when he chases.
>Or completely ruin the effectiveness of spy and promote paranoia
Revolver shits on pyros if he's alone.
>>320773958
I wouldn't say "a lot." He's a pretty solid counter to spies, sure. But few classes struggle with those except back in the days when Dead Ringer was abused to fuck and back.
>>320773863
> leather suit
> gimp
lel
>>320774326
Spy is probably the most underpowered class, and it's a shame since he was the most fun to play. You can't really use any of his equipment because every single player will always spycheck everyone they meet even if they are not acting suspicious.
>people will never stop saying Pyro is worthless
>I will never stop lighting their asses up
>they will never stop telling me to git gud and use a worthwhile class
>I will never stop pointing out they are the ones who are dying
>mfw life will never stop being perfect
>>320771474
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An4b_4R217Q
>>320774737
spy needs a variety of tricks to make people paranoid.
like a watch that gives 100% immunity to all damage but he dies if someone touches him, or another watch that allows enemies to walk through him but takes 30% extra damage. just things to keep spies sneaky and on their toes instead of a light annoyance.
>>320770682
It's one of the few shooters that hasn't devolved into a Call of Duty clone (Halo and Uncharted) or weeb trash with little girls and boring sex fanservice in it ala Splatoon and Overwatch.
It's one of the last bastions of hope.
>>320774737
Spy is an unfortunate class that becomes less effective the wiser the players get.
>>320774962
That's pretty creative. A spy watch that lets you walk through people, but at a cost seems like a good idea.
>>320774802
>it works on valve pub 2fort so it works anywhere!
>>320749086
It is.
When you open the cases, you get Smissmas mystery gifts for "Free"
>>320775606
They can't be opened yet.
And in the past you got nice and naughty crates way before the actual smissmas update.
>>320751907
nice blog post
>>320775776
If the gifts drop for free as well, and this just guarantees you more by opening cases, then that's great.They're not gonna drop for Free, are they.
>>320775092
>walk through someone
>backstab them while inside them
I had a similar idea once, maybe if it worked like DR and it was only active while you were holding out the watch and couldn't attack
I still think disguise kits that either give you the class's speed/doublejump or let you fake attack as the disguised class would be neat.
>>320775285
Case in point.
Sorry for having W+M1'd you to death, m8. Next time try watching your back.
>>320775915
>a spy with the maneuverability of a scout
That's terrifying.
>>320775915
>a disguise kit that can turn the spy into an actual scout with the ability to backstab
There's no way in hell that thing will ever be balanced.
>>320776093
Pyro/soldier player actual but nice try.
Hell I don't even bother anymore with pyro anymore hes god awful.
>>320776012
>watching your back when pyros mostly head towards enemies head on
>>320776698
>i don't know how to be a good pyro, therefore noone else does
>>320776698
You play against some stupid fucking pyros.
>>320776768
95% of Pyros are not good Pyros. Been that way since F2P started.
>>320776768
>implying I wasn't talking about people who mostly play pyro
>>320777001
terminal asspull fever. I'm sorry for your loss.
>>320749938
>>320749750
100% agreement
I wish I could turn off her awful voice.
>>320777001
Not relevant.
>>320777008
I'm a Pyro main and I would never engage anyone from the front unless I either know pretty damn well I won't die before I reach them or I'm acting as a decoy.
mfw all of the butthurt pyro mains who probably spent their hard earned money on spec killstreak degreasers and unusual hats
ty based b4nny
>>320770616
That's how I feel. The phlogs annoying, but it's not going to stay for long. They're reworking things for matchmaking so all of this is subject to change. Even then, none of it is game ruining, and I'm still kicking ass and having fun.
Besides, the place were this really matters, competitive, is going to ban the bullshit.
As a scout main, I'm loving the shit out of this faster weapon switch.
I can't wait to go for my teams second steel season, it's really fun running a team with your friends. I brought in a lot of my friends who didn't think they could do it and it was gratifying to watch them spread their try hard wings and fly. I suggest if any of you anons have enough decent friends to give it a shot, or at least try lobbies. Don't play to win, but to have fun, it's a really good time.
I miss exploiting on Jiggly's Fun House sourcecraft and ruining the server by turning people into infested soldiers that'd self destruct and team-kill their team via 800 damage explosion.God...the dev for that was retarded for so long.
>everyone is complaining about pyro nerfs
>mfw spy main
quit your whining dudes, seriously
>>320777775
Jiggly's Fun House was the epitome of cancer in the community.
>>320778201
downloading:
obnoxiousirritatingunnecessarysoundeffect1of1000.wav
>>320779096
>he doesn't know how to disable the download of sound effects
New as fuck.
>>320779219
I've actually been playing since release, I'm just dumb.
>>320778201
I almost forgot about that pure form of cancer.
>>320754637
>>320739105
Man you must hate who you play with.
>>320744696
No, they gave away a free stocking, with a bunch of items, a random paint, name + description tags.
>>320741684
Competitive matchmaking in TF2 is a joke when the classes are designed with rock-paper-scissors style counters to one another
You just counterpick what the enemy team is good at, and when they counter-counterpick you you triple counter them
What should I name my vaccinator now that it's good again?
>>320779885
Fuck off baracuda out of my screenshot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEEPpcB-YKM
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>320779885
I'm autistic
>>320779737
Or pick classes without counters.
sold all my old concealed killer skins to buy a ticket, then unboxed a factory new killer bee from my first case
i like it, except for the invincibility on the phlog which is fucking ridiculous
>>320779885
Good again? When was it ever good?
>>320778201
Hence why I exploited and always ruined the admin whenever he went on one of his stupid speeches about donating.
That was..-the- cancer server.
>>320739190
>OP combo
You mean the one thing that gave him a chance against the other classes?
>>320780324
Always worked good for me, helps that I always play with the same friend so we know how to maximize it's effectiveness. It has weaknesses for sure, but I just dick around in pubs for the most part and that's where it shines.
>>320780380
You mean Flamethrower + Shotgun + Powerjack?
Because that's still the best fucking combo if you aren't fucking trash at the game.
Seriously if you think anything but Spy is the worst class you need to uninstall the game.
>>320780380
>mfw people say ignorant shit like this
I run Backburner+Detonator+Homewrecker and I'd totally kick your ass any day.
Meanwhile at Valve.
>Gabe walks into the office
>Okay people we need a tf2 update people are quitting the game
>someone make a crate and take stuff from the community while i go eat donuts
>and don't forget to lower some stats on items that didn't need it.
Im 100% sure this is how its happening.
>>320776093
>mfw pay to win servers with trials allow you to get scout movespeed on all classes, but it doesn't matter unless you're a spy or soldier. Then it mattered too much!
Christ. I'm glad people stopped being jews, or at leastValve became better ones
>>320780539
The Vax is actually fucking great, I just wish it leveled up on ubers deployed instead of every fourth uber deployed
On that topic
Strange Danger Shield that levels on headshots survived when?
Strange B.A.S.E. Jumper that levels on time airborne when?
Strange Cozy Camper that levels on health regenerated when?
Strange Booties that track distance traveled when?
Strange Part for Stickybombs destroyed when?
>>320780921
>Pyro?
>sounds nasty, let's nerf it
>you're the boss Mr. Newell
>>320781182
>Pyro
>nerfed
>>320781152
I would rather mediguns level up on kill assists than ubers. I think if the vaccinator levelled up on every uber it'd be a bit too much, I already rack up a lot of uber points with it, especially now that it has a much faster charge rate. It'd be a little unfair to other mediguns.
>>320781421
>Mfw the strange Kritzkrieg does this
>>320781629
Strange kritz does? Too bad strange kritz is so fucking expensive.
So when will they buff the damn man melter so fucking phloggots start using it so they can put teammates out again?
>>320738105
Please,let it die. Tf2 didn't deserve to become like this. Just let it die.
>>320781979
It's better than ever, faggot. If you hate it so much then what are you doing here?
>>320739190
>scorch shot + phlog
>nerfed
>>320780109
I'm pretty sure this is the wrong thread for that but now I'm mad anyway
fuck you anon, today was pretty nice until just now
>>320782049
>better than ever
Let me guess, you started post F2P?
>>320782742
List everything that's wrong with it.
Come on, give me something to laugh at.
>still playing tf2
2010 is over my friend
pubtrash pyro was buffed
highlander pro "I'm not good enough to play a class with a skill requirement" pyro got nerfed hard
tf2center ruining demoniggers got nerfed hard
as a competitive level player this is the best update I've seen in years, giving pubtrash players a buff doesn't affect me in the slightest, they still die just as fast when I click on them
>>320783360
>tfw demoknight will never be removed
>>320742293
>>320739337
Yeah, holy shit this pic is old. I remember giggling about it as a preteen and trying to make it my spray.
>>320783780
>being a tf2 squeaker.
>>320783949
What?
>>320784176
You were a brat when you started playing tf2.
>>320783695
pure demoknight isn't that great, in pubs there's too much spam going out to get anywhere, at the top level they just get bent over by scouts
the problem is the hybrids that use pipes with the tideturner and a claid
the core of the problem actually is the tideturner itself, charge turning scripts were a massive problem back in the day to the point where it would get you banned on any half serious server, so I don't get why they would just build that into a weapon and give it to everyone
tideturner would be balanced if they lowered the turning power or just completely removed all the damage resistance
The degreaser seems very pointless to use now.
But at least nobody can call me a tryhard if I use it, now.
>>320758680
they can fight back, they're not just a sitting duck in the air
>>320784294
tf2 is an 8 year old game, a lot of people were kids back then.
>>320739509
>Engie doens't need more "weapons", he needs new buildings and alternate PDAs.
Brother, you ain't kidding.
>Mind abuzz with possibilities over the prospect of new turrets as the class updates are happening
>the only thing we ever got was a SMALLER turret
>>320785053
How would you feel if each wrench got its own (somewhat) unique building? Kind of like the gunslinger an the minisentry, but with the other buildings. Don't know what that would entail, but make the wrenches more different somehow.
That, or just different PDA types for different stuff.YOU MADE A PDA SLOT, VALVE. USE IT. STRANGE PDA'S DON'T COUNT.
>>320785723
I'm all about new options. I want to see engineer be able to build other helpful things. Like a jumppad instead of a teleport, or some kind of shield generator instead of a dispenser.
I know I know, Valve gave the whole speech about "not wanting to trade in the staples" but usefulness is something that can be balanced out. How many engineers don't even build teleporters for their team anyways? Nothing lost, in my mind.
>>320784840
And they were still annoying brats.
>>320738782
Looks like its trying to explain its anatomy. Are you actually gonna pay money for that shit?
>>320738782
>the grenade launcher model STILL has 6 chambers
>>320787613
No shit they do, the Demo has to store extra scrumpy SOMEWHERE and there's no room in his vest for more grenades.
>>320779885
>-66% overheal build rate
THAT is the reason that makes the weapon bad.
Nobody uses it competitively because of the overheal build rate.
