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Anyone tried this yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-kefd0cFWs
Looks dope desu senpai.
looks like shit
a glib facsimile
>>320714194
>playing SJWrail
>playing memerail
Mite b cool
>Fallout gerps gameplay without the setting
I'd be interested if it was free desu
played for 8 hours straight in first sitting, that did not happen to me for more than 10 years.
most of you casual faggots will probably hate it.
>>320714194
Playing it right now, and so far, I'm loving the fuck out of this game.
Playing as a melee build, it's pretty hard against ranged opponents, but when I get close, they're fucked
i'm playing stealth knife psi.
level 6 so far and it is pretty easy, position yourself favorably, drop some crowd control and hack away with dagger.
Also, you can skip trash mobs often since oddity is great system.
>>320714194
Okay can someone explain what the fuck "mechanical damage" is?
I like the music in the trailer, it's got the Mark Morgan feeling right in the ambient part
>>320714194
I swear to god I heard a Steam screenhsot sound effect at 30 seconds.
Interface is worse than older RPGs and that's a fucking achievment.
Just bought it myself, shame I can't get into it immidiately since I've poor decisions in life.
Mainly ageeing to have dinner with family and friends on a Saturday.
I want my isometric RPG goodness NOW damn it.
>>320714194
5 hours in so far after I got the game, really nice and I'm having a great time.
>>320714541
in what way is it sjw related?
>>320715490
He's just memeing his way to the top.
Any game that has the "under-" prefix will propably get this for years to come.
>>320715490
>>320715581
>>>/tumblr/
and take your trans positive lgbt filled game with you
>underrail
>undertale
basically the same thing. must be shit.
Hey, is it safe to go off the rails, pick a random direction and run off, or is it better to stay in the areas where the main quests are?
>>320715240
"Mechanical" as in an impact force, a bullet, a sledgehammer
Mechanical
>>320715939
Why are you asking us? Try it yourself and fucking explore for once.
>>320715624
I'm >>320715490
I'm genuinely curious
I'm not touching games (mostly indies) if they are in any way involved with sjws. You can never be careful enough.
If it really was just an undertale/rail joke then whatever
>>320716010
I tried it and got instagibbed by four dudes, I'm wondering if anyone else had better luck and if I perhaps just picked a bad direction to go in.
>>320716060
>I tried it and got instagibbed by four dudes
Then you might come to the conclusion that they're higher level than you and probably should try another area
>>320716015
You will never find a crunchy, mechanically dense RPG that has been afflicted with SJW bullshit. The two are and forever will be mutually exclusive.
Game was developed for 7 years by basement dwelling slav. There is nothing SJW about it.
>>320714194
destined to fail cuz the name
>>320716129
>fucking explore for once
>well maybe you shouldn't have explored in that direction!
Are you dense? This is why I'm asking if other people had better luck or if it's better to stay in the areas where the overseer dude tells you to go.
>>320715975
That's kinetic you dummy.
>>320716204
stealth helps a lot if you wanna go that route.
>>320716216
Kinetic energy is mechanical energy hurr durr
>>320714194
its great.
its a better fallout game than 3, new vegas and 4.
but it is very very hard. and can be frustrating in the beginning.
but with some dedication and clever playing its very satisfying.
Holy shit this thread is cancer.
Good job /v/
>>320714730
I want to suck Klonoa's dick
Played it back in early access, was dope. Probably even better now.
>>320716216
you dumb fuck
10th grade physics
Mechanical energy=Potencial energy + Kinetic energy
Is there a way to make the font more readable?
Shit hurts my eyes.
>>320716581
ask the dev
>>320716581
read on codex that some people use smart scaling on their monitors, not really sure how that works tho.
was Underrail in any bundle while it was in development?
Because strange thing happened to me yesterday: I opened steam store to check new releases and saw that I already own Underrail, though I pretty much sure that I wasn't even interested in it. Steam says that I own it since november 2013, and it seems like I didn't buy it directly from steam. So it's either bundle or some error on Steam side.
Anyway, I tried the game, played for an hour. It seems surprisingly alright so far.
>>320716860
Keep on playing. It gets tons better after the first few areas (not to say that they are bad but it is kind of a tutorial area).
>Trap detection is based off how many points you dump into traps, not perception
>Can't even manually attack when you know where a trap is unless you use explosives
>>320716204
Explore better scrub. Explore in another direction first. Exploration is dickless if it's Bethesdian level scaled shit with no danger. Exploration is only worth anything if there's risk/reward, which UnderRail does very well.
>>320718410
Time to invest in traps, champ. It's a good skill. The only skills that are flat out useless are Mercantile and Lockpicking.
>>320718639
>Lockpicking
>Useless
You what
>>320716216
You dumb asshole, learn something.
>>320718707
Yeah, it's useless. There are no important doors you can open with it and most chests you can unlock with it are filled with crap, usually even empty. Sometimes you can cap out on an Oddity slightly earlier, but it doesn't lock you out of anything exclusive.
Hacking, hilariously, can open some doors, usually far more important ones, can open chests that have a better chance to roll for loot and you can hack computers with it.
Don't waste points in Lockpicking.
was literally just about to make this thread
is it entirely playable with mouse? keyboards fucked im typing this with osk
and how brain intensive is this, meaning can i just chill and play or do i need to be sharp for both combat and questing?
>>320719003
>is it entirely playable with mouse
seem so, good to go anon
>>320716435
potential
>>320719003
You can play the game with a mouse just fine.
You'll need to pay attention in combat and quests. There are no quest compasses, you have to read the dialogue to understand what to do. This isn't the kind of game where you can just turn your brain off and enjoy the ride. It's a pretty demanding game.
>>320718863
Already got 34 points in it. Oh well, I've only found one empty container so far.
>>320719003
I don't think there's any command which is tied to the keyboard
>and how brain intensive is this
There's no map. The only way to find out where you're supposed to be going is to ask and remember directions
>>320719236
>>320719197
ok, ill sit up straight and give it a go,
So hows the writing?
>>320719520
Serviceable. This is more of a combat, exploration and number crunching focused RPG. The writing isn't going to make you cringe in pain, but it's not going to make you stay up late at 5 AM drinking coffee and thinking about the nature of a man.
>>320719663
Thanks Anon.
>>320719520
10/10 it's okay. It's just there to give context
>>320719663
what game does let me stay up all night thinking about nature of the man
its been a long time
>>320716581
Just lower you resolution, game looks the same anyway
>>320720150
PS:T
The Talos Principle
Dude Sex
>>320716325
>but it is very very hard
So far this game has proven that any implementation of stealth just breaks the game into easy mode.
>>320720150
I don't know anon. I guess the best contestant is the new Torment game, but it's highly doubtful that it will achieve even a foot of what PST did. The people making it lack the pessimism and angst that Avellone had when he worked on Planescape Torment.
>>320714194
>playing sjw tumblr games
get back to reddit scum
>>320714194
I already played Fallout 15 years ago thanks.
>>320714194
I honestly think I could dissuade most people in this thread from playing Underrail if only I made a webm showcasing movement speed. Just clicking on point on map and following character's slow walk to it.
God fuck where am I sposed to go to do Bretts first mission.
Also, do I use a sledgehammer or explosives to get rid of rock formations?
>>320720150
Just play Pillars of Eternity, it's a shit game with two characters written by Avellone.
>>320720258
dude sex, are we beeing honest here anon?
>>320720338
What a shame, naturally im glad that most people lack pessimism and/or angst. Personally been there forever and still am. But if the quality is suffering, im afraid i will be wasting my time. nevertheless thanks for suggestions.
I have no idea how to build my character
>>320720579
>Take the elevator to the caves
>Go East through the double sliding doors by talking to the guy behind the fence
>Go south to the area transition
>Go west to the sentry by the lantern
>>320720795
>firearms
>guns
What's the difference?
>>320720606
Not him, but dude sex got me into philosophy and political theory, so probably.
>>320720815
You'd think the sentry would say something about the missing trapper. Thanks.
>>320720795
That's the point of the game, be as obtuse as possible so you fuck up and prolong your gameplay time.
>>320720990
Parody image.
>>320720605
I dont really think it is helpfull to advertise a "shit game" i dont want play shitty games just for this one factor im interested in, i want to play good games which may or may not trigger the nature of the man thought
i definatly can trigger it via movies or books so why sacrifice the only one interesting part in a videogame (tip:its gameplay)
>>320720795
>not putting all your points into Wit, Shoe Size, and Sense of Humor
>not doing a Ryan Stiles playthrough
I will rp this as a System Shock 2 hacker.
Any tips for a new player build? Arestealth archersviable?
Where's the fucking circuit board for the drill. I've been bumming around the scrap yard running for mutant assholes for an hour now
>>320721256
Yes
>>320721109
Nigger if you played Torment you can play shit games. The biggest problem with Pillars is how shit character sprites are and most of the environments but characters Avellone wrote are good, it's the closest you're going to get because I presume you already played Troika games.
Age of Decadence is good but not as esoteric as Avellone stuff in Torment. If you want to play games with good gameplay I have no idea why you're playing classic wrpgs. Go dungeon crawler or go Japanese.
Wait. I think SMT Nocturne would fit you. Same with Digital Devil saga.
I've spent like thirty fucking minutes trying to capture those little shits in a net jesus christ
>>320720606
I AM NOT A MACHINE
>>320721235
Are there cool goggles in game?
>>320720990
firearms don't include Laser weapons. Anyone keep this mind when picking feats. The feat that adds +mechanical damage equal to your level doesn't work with any of the Laser or Chemical guns.
>>320721319
I have a feeling he would like Strange Journey more, to be honest. Although it most definitely won't have him thinking about the nature of man.
>>320721256
Anything is viable as long as you put some thought into the build.
>>320720795
Is this actually in the game? Can you main shoes and just throw them at people or what?
>>320721380
I hope you are initiating combat and then walking up to the hoppers in turn based mode and throwing the net so they can't run away while you try to trap them.
>>320721569
I think that question was Torment's red herring. Or macguffin. Whatever it was.
>>320721614
This would be pretty intense.
>>320721614
It's a joke. Underrail's skill system is actually pretty straightforward
>>320721682
I am. I miss every single time. I haven't spent a single skillpoint on throwing.
>>320721790
Alright, keep at it anon. Sounds like you have some dreadful luck.
>>320716153
This. God is truly a Serb.
HALP
Im stuck in the tutorial box room, I can't unlock the door.
>>320714194
I played it back when it was in alpha and they were giving it away for free.
Was pretty good back then. I'll give it a shot now.
Is there a level cap, either soft or hard? Can I be a jack of all trades in the endgame or do you need to specialize?
0-4 Play underrail
5-9 concentrate on finishing geneforge 2 first
dubs another 100 hours in san andreas and flatout lol
>>320721984
I'm from Serbia and had no idea this is a Serbian developer. This is actually the first 'real' game coming from here then. There were some shit-tier attempts before but nothing on, say, CroTeam level.
Fallout was always a big franchise here so no wonder it influenced Underrail.
How do I beat all the psy bugs while looking for the bloke catching hoppers, doing a hand gun build
>>320720338
Not to mention they literally hired a sex toy reviewer to write for the game. I wish I were memeing about this one.
>>320721041
That is how most rpgs are made. 90% pitfall skills that completely gimp your character. If you're lucky and picked the right combination that continues to work into late game you're lucky or reading a guide with spreadsheet calculations.
>>320721614
Specialize in taste, charisma, poison, and winemaking to sneak your way into parties and kill high level enemies.
>>320721474
There are some.
http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Goggles
>>320722285
>hat is how most rpgs are made. 90% pitfall skills that completely gimp your character.
That should not be the case if the descriptions are good.
looks like a shitty Fallout clone
>>320722210
Grenades, luck, stealth, grenades, AP rounds, grenades, shoot the exploding barrels
>>320722172
There's also some adventure games from Croatia (Croat here), like Poslanik or Kaptain Brawe. Nothing CroTeam level, tho.
I once played some Serbian puzzle game. It was some indie game and way way way before indies exploded like they did. I think it was somewhere arond 2007-09. Wrote a review for it, iirc. Don't remember the name, but I did find it on steam years later.
I also have an interview with the dev of Underrail that never got published on a certain site for reasons. I could pastebin it. It's heavily outdated tho.
>>320722561
Didn't try that, will look it up. There was also some sort of galaxy space fighting game 10 or so years ago but it was obvious it was gimped piece of crap.
Pastebin it, sure.
>>320722364
Even if the base skills are laid out for you in mathematical detail and skills explained thoroughly, there is no way of knowing if the developer made them viable in the the game. It's up to the dev to make all their skills or abilities have a place in the game.
>Oops I picked x offensive ability and it turns out that it is awful and inferior to y offensive ability in every way and brings nothing to the table.
It's even worse when you don't find out your spec is useless until later in the game because the developer didn't flesh out the high level abilities of your chosen spec.
>>320716153
Didn't know this was made by a Serb.
This game deserves out support then for what was done to the Serbians.
Buying just because it's a Serbian.
>>320722763
>serblover
srbe na vrbe
>>320721989
What's the problem? Just place the lockpick on the hotbar, click on it, then on the door. You shouldn't have any difficulties with that, unless you ran into some bug.
>>320714194
Is this like Fallout 1/2? Will it run on a toaster?
>>320722882
Fallout + Deus Ex + System Shock. Yes it will run on a toaster.
>>320722461
Thanks for the advice ill go invest in like a 100 AP rounds.
>>320723014
You'd only need like 20. Heck I didn't even use any.
>>320721984
A Serb? Well alright.
>>320722696
That's the point, if the design is good every playstyle should be viable.
>>320722989
>Fallout + Deus Ex + System Shock. Yes it will run on a toaster.
No game is that good.
>>320723390
E.Y.E was fairly close to it. Damn it. ;_;
>>320723243
Are you unfamiliar with the "God is a Serb" meme?
>>320723210
Thats one clip worth man, I'd need a ton more
>>320722280
Who, Shanna Germain?
>>320723721
Yes.
>>320723645
I just had no idea the dev was Serb is all. I've heard he was a slav before, but nothing more specific.
>>320723645
it's a shit meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq_J2C6Hrz0
>>320723645
EYE didn't really do anything particularly well, it was just a brave effort. Proof that it's better to try lots of things than fail than to make a middling game.Unless you want to make money
Time to give it a try then.
>>320723789
I didn't know that she reviewed sex toys, but it was a good guess. She's a fucked up chick. Monte Cook dumped his wife for Shanna.
>>320714194
Literally Shadowrun
>>320723868
E.Y.E. had perfect combat, desu. Actually it did a great many things really well, but this isn't the topic for it.
>>320723965
http://www.shannagermain.com/
trigger warning
>>320724098
>source engine
>perfect combat
please.
>>320724056
telekinesis is unfortunately a staple of cyberpunk and as far as i remember there is no magick in underrail.
>>320724221
>telekinesis
>cyberpunk
Are you fucking serious
>>320724330
yes, telekinesis is omnipresent in cyberpunk and sci-fi setting unfortunately and therefore not enough to call a game shadowrun.
>>320724098
I'm not surprised in the least. She's a sultry vixen and the kind of bad news that will come in as a wedge between a man and his wife / girlfriend, especially if it can further her career.
At least it'll be very obvious which parts she's writing in the new Torment game (I'm guessing they are filled to the brim with in-your-face sexual stuff, with no subtlety) so it'll be easy to ignore.
>>320724417
>telekinesis is omnipresent in cyberpunk
>>320724221
>and as far as i remember there is no magick in underrail.
Metathermics is still a school of Psionics, but it's literally Wizard magic. Fireballs and iceballs.
>>320724556
>psionics
then those fireballs and iceballs are psychic manifestations. not magick.
>>320724417
Mate. TK isn't present in any of the most important/formative Cyberpunk media besides Shadowrun. Shadowrun is the one significant outlier.
>>320723952
Isn't better to get the GOG version? That's the one I'm downloading
>>320722882
it has not enough dialogs and roleplay to be called Fallout successor
>>320724813
Mine is an iso with the gog version on it.
>>320724813
Always.
>>320724736
Shadowrun is a subgenre, not cyberpunk. It's an offspring come into its own.
For serbo - croatian speakers only:
http://pastebin.com/WrzktMvg
Obećani intervju od ranije.
>>320724653
You can call it what you want but magic is still magic.
>>320724938
>volis lio duge setnje uz mjesecinu
the fuck kinda question is that
>>320724874
Do they do that as a compression thing or what?
>>320725016
A lighthearted joke. In hindsight it wasn't funny, but retarded, but oh well. It was 3 years ago, give me a break.
>>320724938
Stronk y/n
>>320721319
>good gameplay
>jrpgs
>>320725113
so you were the one conducting the interview?
>>320725108
No idea, might be just that they repacked it like that so they can slap their name on it.
>>320724938
Thanks
He seems to be in line with the guy that made Age of Decadence in that they're stuck in a 90s wrpg mindset and care not / know anything about other genre trends. Probably a good mindset to have if someone wants to make a game like this. RPG Codex autists will probably cream themselves over it.
>>320725154
But all the best turn based tactics RPG games are Japanese except XCom, Jagged Alliance 2, and Silent Storm.
>>320725154
To be fair he mentioned SMT which are dungeon crawlers.
>>320725270
That seems even more likely, yeah.
>>320725250
What if I was?
>>320725316
>But all the best turn based tactics RPG games are Japanese except XCom, Jagged Alliance 2, and Silent Storm.
sigh
>>320725154
>Drak souls
>>320725451
then good job and thanks for posting it
čovjek se čini skroz OK, kupit ću mu igru na Steamu
>>320725316
Speaking of VD, the man in charge behin AoD, this one is a classic.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/02/01/against-design-decadence-vince-d-weller/
>>320725451
THEN HE'S GONNA BEAT YOU UP!
Can I bully women in this game?
This is important
>>320725528
h-hvala
I actually got the game from him on desura and steam without even asking for it. Maybe I should pull some strings and write a review for one of the biggest gaming themed balkan sites. Fully disclosed and realistic review, ofc.
>>320725590
You can shoot random people if that's what you mean.
>>320725478
They are. Is this the trend where we're pretending that Infinity Engine games had good gameplay?
Or that Japanese dungeon crawlers aren't the pinnacle of the genre?
>>320725529
Archive that shit, don't give Rock Gender Shotgun any views.
I still have an extra two captured hoppers, can I actually sell these anywhere?
How to minimize combat? Is pacifist build viable option? Alternative what is best combat build?
Should I use the oddity system for my first playthrough?
>>320725727
Very well
https://archive.is/J4QvY
>>320725837
Go stealth.
>>320725887
Yes.
>>320725705
>write a review for one of the biggest gaming themed balkan sites
you should, it's worth it
I know people who still prefer old RPG games
frend me stalno nagovarao da igram Baldur's gate i Icewind Dale,također igra D&D sa svojima uživo
I've spent the last half hour trying to build a melee/psi/stealth hybrid. What are decent stats for something like that?
>>320726016
Vince is pretty based, I can understand Slavs telling off cultural marxists more easily, but it's much harder for a westerner, they can do more damage there.
>>320726198
Where is he from originally? I never bothered asking him directly. I suspect Polish because of something he once said, but I don't know. He is definitely Slavic.
>>320726016
Imagine if this was an interview with a movie director and the fucker doing it started questioning his montage choices and asking him wouldn't it be better to do it this way rather than that way.
>>320726276
Oh, it's a pseudonym? I thought he was westerner, especially after that Glen Cook quote at the beginning of the game.
>>320726497
He's a first gen immigrant to Canada.
>>320726553
Tough to speak your mind in that environment
>>320725837
You can stealth, but it's slow and frustrating.
Probably best to go full tank and mow shit down
>>320726016
Christ, I can't even make it through the first paragraph of this article.
>Walker posted a little combat teaser the team behind this indie-RPG had released. The thread exploded with readers rejecting its turn-based formality, and then there was a counter-reaction to that. It basically turned into a debate about what the RPG should be in the modern age
This is such a pretentious way to say "our dumbfuck readers bitched about oldschool RPG design and then our slightly less dumbfuck readers told them off."
>>320726765
It's strawman 101, he sets up what 'someone' said in order to be able to 'debate' with it. Common with agenda driven drivel.
jesus, these psibugs are extremely tough. I've tried suppressing and spamming grenades but the dumb cooldown ruins that tactic. AP rounds don't really help since no one sells enough. I can potentially kill one, but three mobbing me at once is crazy
>mfw I accidentally enjoyed the first Fallout despite hating turn-based games
How's Underail? Should I stay away from it?
>>320726930
>accidentally enjoyed
how does that even happen
>>320726848
>agenda driven drivel
Kieron Gillen in a nutshell, yeah. I quit reading RPS in disgust long ago so I'm not sure what I was anticipating.
>>320726987
He tripped.
>>320726987
Simply put, I had no idea what to do, and still managed to find the waterchip without murdering the ghouls. Also managed to kill the deathclaw mother.
I remember I loved that game because I could stab people in the groin and they fainted.
But when I tried Fallout 2 and Jagged Alliance 2, I couldn't get into them and I kept losing.
>>320726869
Heh, they're obviously inspired by "the many" from ps:t. Try getting the drop on one and overwhelming him with everything you got. Because if others get close you will get your shit kicked in. It's how I dealt with it successfully at least. In combat with 3 or more is suicide, at least in early game.
>>320727047
He was tame to what came after but definitely was the enabler and a precursor to that sort of people gaining foothold in media.
>>320726987
What he means to say is he finds "disliking turn-based games" critical to his identity and doesn't want to accept that he enjoyed one.
>>320727247
Yeah, that's basically that. I sucked at every other turn based game that I played after Fallout.
>>320727157
How could you not get into Fallout 2 then, as it has the exact same gameplay?
>>320714194
>Under
no thanks
>>320727397
I dunno. Maybe it's because I only played it recently and tried to make a build from the beginning instead of using whatever I found.
At any rate, I did okay at Fallout with a Luck10 character, I got massively rekt at Fallout 2 with a similar character, but focused on hand-to-hand combat.
>>320727295
You should stay away from breathing
>>320727679
Hey, he's being honest instead of coming in here and calling all turn-based games shit because he's shit at them, let's not go full "kill urself faggot", eh?
The game is alright, but there's no map in the game. I have no idea where I am going and where I'm supposed to go.
>get a quest to go to the barracks and take package from some locker
>maybe it's not even the right package, there's no way of knowing
>supposed to take it somewhere, no fucking clue where
>run into bandits
>they ask me about the package
>I give it to them, they open it, get upset that it's not the right package and start shooting me
>now I don't have a package, don't know if that was even the right one, don't know where to go
Who designs this shit?
>explore the caves
>found a door that's locked
>got a quest to search caves for a guy named Newton
>Newton is behind the locked door
>the door is unlocked now
>no way I could even know the door is unlocked unless I check every door that was locked before
Really?
>>320727679
What a fucking faggot you are.
>>320727786
>he's being honest instead of coming in here and calling all turn-based games shit because he's shit at them
Doesn't make him less responsible of games being dumbed-down
>I'm stabbing you on the dick but is okay because I'm being honest about it :)
Am I making a mistake wasting all my starter money on blueprints like recycling and harvesting shit instead of potions or whatever?
>>320728114
That's a shitty analogy but clearly you're determined to be a bitchboy so knock yourself out champ.
>>320716325
>its a better fallout game than 3, new vegas and 4.
>but it is very very hard. and can be frustrating in the beginning.
so it's Fallout 2?
>>320728114
What the fuck are you talking about, Fallout had as simplistic gameplay as it's possible. Jesus christ, a wrpg elitist of all people.
>>320728268
>That's a shitty analogy
Bet you couldn't even argue why
>>320728114
I don't see why, given I usually skip them instead of buying them and then throwing a fit on the dev's forum.
>>320728343
>Fallout had as simplistic gameplay as it's possible
Bethesda found a way to make it worse
>>320719197
>>320719236
Do you have a journal?
>>320728453
Not really, even vats was more tactical than Black Isle combat. Let's not pretend Bethesda is somehow worse at gameplay than Obsidian.Morrowind is a better game than anything Black Isle / Obsidian ever shat out
>>320728353
Ignore the fagola.
>>320728353
>I usually skip them instead of buying
And then you buy games that are dumbed down, you don't see how buying bad games and don't buying good games ends with more bad games being made?
Is there a patch for the GOG version I should wait for, or should I just install and play straight away?
>>320720496
So just like almost every other turn based game?
>>320728574
>Morrowind
>tactical combat
>>320728628
I fail to see how buying games that I'm sure to enjoy is bad compared to buying games I'm not sure to enjoy.
And I'm not going to waste my money on games I'm not sure to enjoy just to make you happy, you egotistical prick.
>>320728727
Why are you engaging with that shitstirrer? Why are you enabling him to shit up the thread by replying to him?
>>320728727
>And I'm not going to waste my money on games I'm not sure to enjoy just to make you happy, you egotistical prick.
I didn't ask you to do that, obviously that is not going to happen, but you are going to stop breathing eventually
>>320728812
Okay then.
So how about Underrail? Is it easier or harder than Fallout?
>>320728726
I said better combat than Black Isle/Obsidian, didn't say it was tactical or good. At least it was fun for how broken it was.
>>320728654
No
>>320714194
Played, Refunded it.
That trailer contained everything the game has going for it; with some extra padding.
Id rather pay for porn than play that.
>>320728891
As fun for how broken it is goes, BG is better than the average Bethesda game, even kiting enemies has more going on that just jumping in a slightly high rock
>>320728891
Only a retard would bring up Morrowind to argue that Bethesda is better at combat than anyone. Even the Bethdrones usually don't dare to make that argument.
>>320729391
At least Morrowind has polearms.
>>320729391
>than anyone
But I said Obsidian/Black Isle. Calm down, take a deep breath, reread, stop being triggered you manchild.
>>320729391
He isn't arguing that is good but fun in how broken it, does anybody has the pic of the guy "beating" Morrowind forever?
>>320729451
no mechanical difference except a different animation
they could have had only swords for all i care and it wouldnt have changed a damn
morrowind is so much win and such a big failure at the same time
>>320729485
Obsidian/Black Isle falls under the category of "anyone", you cretin.
>>320729658
Morrowind's greatest strength is its cRPG heritage. Morrowind's greatest weakness is its cRPG heritage.
>>320729658
Who cares, polearms are fucking awesome.
>>320729707
The point is that I made a specific comparison, sweetie.
Please tell me I can actually transport animals with the dog crate. I want a pet in my room.
>>320729798
And you went full retard. Like I said, even the drones usually don't dare to bring up combat.
>>320728107
lel
>>320726016
In case you're still here, thank you for linking that interview, it was a fun read
Is a heavy armor & melee combat build okay? How are the heavy armors in this game anyway, fallout style full exosuits or just swat style combat armors?
If you didn't go full jin-roh you are the plebbest of plebeians.
>>320729756
a shame its not isometric, i could be enjoying it right now if it was.
>>320729775
no problem here friend, enjoy your skin.
>>320730938
I got bored with that anime half way through. Zero pacing.
>>320728650
as far as i know GOG version is fine? its 1.0.0 right? game released like a day and a bit ago
>>320728517
Of course. If you don't remember what you have to do in a quest, you can always return to the quest giving NPC and they'll usually repeat the dialogue again so you can refresh your memory that way.
>>320731697
Wasn't it like 4 episodes? It was an OVA, wasn't it? Man, it's been long.
>>320730938
I dunno, senpai. The Metal Armor looks kinda neat, but it's incredibly powerfu. When you craft yourself a set of Metal Armor you're pretty much good to go and unstopable.
>>320731697
Oh look it's another person who went into jin ruh roh expecting all shooting all the time
>>320730938
What is this?
>>320731718
Yes but there was a 1mb patch today on Steam anyway.
>>320731987
jesus christ
>>320732070
My anime lore isn't really great. I like only a handful of it.
>>320732217
read his post you heaping pile of stupid
>>320731817
So there is an actually journal that writes down all the dialogue, or do I have to go back every time?
>>320731901
As far as I remember it was a movie and as generic as you can get when alternate history is concerned. The opening scene with the grenade was the only good part.
>>320731987
Jin-roh, the art direction is nice but the anime isn't very good.
>>320732217
>>320732295
or use reverse image search
or just generally don't be a moron
>>320732379
Lazy.
Sue me for just asking, will you.
>>320732492
Fuck you, idiot.
>>320732492
You would have saved more time clicking "google" right next to the image
How the fuck do I deal with telekinetic punch? These bugs will stunlock me with it and I can't fight them separately, as they all get pulled as soon as one spots me.
>>320732585
>that level of butthurt because I didn't know the name of a chinese cartoon or felt the inclination to google or reverse image search
The internet might be a too dangerous place for you. I suggest not browsing it without the supervision of an adult.
>>320732813
And I could have done a ton of other things to find it out myself. Point is, I like to ask people because non retards will usually answer you and write a brief summary and / or a brief review, which I prefer to just reading about it on wikipedia or ann or whatever.
But this somehow has to be drawn to the average internet autist since it's incomprehensible that I would want some personal input, nay, it clearly means I am unable to use google, wikipedia or imdb myself. I'm not calling you out with this, but the butthurt morons.
Anyway, thanks to this anon >>320732332
>>320733261
Fuck you, idiot.
So is this game better than Age of Decadence?
I started that one, played through the content in the first settlement, and sort of never came back to it.
>>320733261
>I like to ask people because non retards will usually answer you and write a brief summary and / or a brief review, which I prefer to just reading about it on wikipedia or ann or whatever.
That's not laziness. Why would you just go on the internet and tell lies?
>>320721041
>Parody image.
It's incredibly sad you had to explain that to him.
brb gonna hang myself with a belt.
>>320714194
Stop shilling your garbage game here
>>320733261
If you'd shut up and accept that you're acting like a fucking dunce, we'd be done with this.
But now you have to shit up and derail the thread too.
This is why you shouldn't fucking spoonfeed.
I fucking love that thing.
>melee user gets close to me
>taser him and run away
>use the next turn to kill him or run away
>>320733491
YMMV, but yes.
>>320733667
It would have also been over had I gotten a normal reply instead of a torrent of butthurt from autistic idiots who are still going at it.
>get called names by manchildren for inquiring about an animu
>you are somehow to blame
>>320733749
Nice post delete.
>>320733969
I thought that was merely a character name from an anime in the screenshot so to be sure I asked about the anime name. Why is that incomprehensible?
>>320733261
>that level of autism because you cant google-fun your name to a taiwanese motion picture character
>>320733654
How about wecome back to shilling Fallout 4 instead?
Is that ok with you Anon?
>>320733948
Combine this with that perk that makes you do more damage to stunned enemies to wreck shit
>>320734120
It's literally the same retard from yesterday memeing about shilling, the writing style is the same. Ignore him and he will go back to his fleshlight.
>>320734085
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jin-roh
>>320734085
People aren't angry at you because you asked about an animu, they're angry because you asked when the title was literally in the same post that you replied to.
And then you got angry because people expect you to have two fucking braincells and do things for yourself once in a while.
>>320734193
I'm going since that perk is a requirement to pic related.
>>320734085
>>320733261
Are you that thinskinned?
Are you this bothered by a couple of anonymous users on an anime imageboard?
Why are you still replying?
>>320734270
>>320734259
Refer to
>>320733261
and the last bit in
>>320734085
And I'm somehow the one with reading problems.
So if simply answering a question and following it with some personal input is such a hassle, I would assume completely ignoring it would be better use of everyone's time compared to childish insults, ganging up on one person and shitting up the thread in the process. Granted, I a just as retarded since I am enabling you by responding, so I will stop now.
>>320734112
>this module will never be overhauled with better models and actual animations
Such a shame, I can't fap to just text.
>>320734112
What the fuck
>>320734612
I find it easier to fap to well written smut, when compared to zero context porn, like the Skyrim sex mods for example.
>>320734537
Consider it an education from us to you, moron.
If you just ignore the guy shitting in the corner of the room, then he probably will think you don't have a problem with it.
>>320734537
>Granted, I a just as retarded since I am enabling you by responding
Trust me, that's only one facet of your retardation.
>>320734112
I really want to try this and the other dance module but just can't mange to get any torrents of the game to work.
>>320734979
Wasnt it like $2 on gog?
>>320734882
There's plenty of porn with context AND visual feedback.
Mostly untranslated RPG maker stuff though.
Post chars and your main weapon stats.
Currently level 7, trying to clear old Junkyard.
Why do all those containers require 50 lockpicking/hacking to open, I have only 45 right now.
>>320714194
Isometric is the new 8-bit. Talentless "indie" hacks are going to ride it hard, because the alternative is actually learning how to code.
>>320736109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRbx5pTGVik
Okay /v/, whats the final verdict? What do we think of it?
>>320736219
>We
Fuck off
>>320736219
This kind of pack mentality is the reason the world sucks.
Underrail is a niche game, there's always going to be a lot of people who get nothing from it regardless of quality.
>nonhuman enemies
>doors
>that psi talent that allows you to use one power for 0 AP
100% broken if you are clever with kiting. It also makes turrets irrelevant unless they are in a huge room with absolutely no cover.
>>320714194
> Undertale
> Underrail
HAHAHAH GOOD TRY FAGGOTS
YOU CAN'T MISLEAD ME INTO BUYING YOUR INFERIOR GAME AHAHAHAHA
>high will and dex
>lighting punches and psionics
It's been a long time i was able to play such a powerful monk in a game.
>>320736781
An RPG is not good if it dosns't have a Kenshiro build viable.
>>320722285
Helseth, pls go.
>>320736848
>dosns't
doesn't
How the hell did I write that?
>All this psychoshit
>Hacking
Can I be a cyberwizard in this game?
>>320736848
This is 100% true and an objective fact.
>>320737097
One of the psi trainers looks like some fucking cyber zombie, so yeah.
>>320737189
Fucking schway
Is melee viable all the way through end game?
>>320737641
Try it and find out, why be a pussy about it?
>>320737814
Because it would be shitty to build a character over a period of several hours only to find out that the time was wasted and the character could not perform as needed later in the game, obviously.
>>320737641
Yes.
>>320737946
I think it's equally shitty to remove any sense of discovery or wonder from your game by knowing "yep this character will beat the game" just play and see what happens.
>>320738173
>I think it's equally shitty to remove any sense of discovery or wonder from your game by knowing "yep this character will beat the game"
Okay, so you don't need to ask people online before making a character build and trying to beat a game with it, and that's fine. Obviously the other guy doesn't agree with your opinion, hence why he asked in the first place. Him knowing whether he will be wasting his time invested in creating a build doesn't have any impact on your ability to go in and explore build viability as you go.
Do you need tailoring for building metal armor?
>>320738401
Yeah, but I wanted him to know that I think he's a faggot.
>>320739027
And in doing so revealed yourself to be one.
>>320739141
no, u
>>320733667
I'm pretty sure you and dozens of other anons shitting down the dude's neck just for asking a question is the reason why this thread got derailed.
>>320734953
And if you confront him about it, you'll just get shit all over the place rather than just in the corner.
>>320739481
>>320739556
And if he isn't so stupid that he doesn't learn from the lesson then in the future no shit has to get anywhere. Fuck off.
>>320739757
Or he continues shitting in a corner out of spite because you're a gigantic /a/sshole.
I mean, do you think that most of the anons who ask for source are necessarily doing so because they genuinely want to know about anime?
They're doing it because they know it sets you faggots off and will derail the thread once you go into a frenzy.
Can you trigger traps with psionics?
>>320740224
I'm not responsible for what a retard does out of spite because people told him not to be a retard.
You're being a retard, by the way. Don't be a retard.
>>320740356
You can trigger traps and mines with the fireball. Or just use nades if you have any.
>>320740425
There's no lesson to be learned.
No moral to be discussed.
No salvation to be had.
No resolution to be reached.
It's just one guy baiting a bunch of /a/utists who escaped their containment board just to shit into the septic tank of another containment board.
The only retard around here is you, who believe that they're actually doing anyone a service.
>>320741036
Okay retard.
damn, should've gotten this when it was it was EA and still 8€
>>320716581
there's a font size option in menu
>>320736708
So it is like real life then.
Playing it right now, it's good for an indie game, they focused the most on the world and zones, i'd like to see more dialogue and maybe interesting characters and party members.
Going PSI build, the combat is good and challenging so far.
The trading system is shit. Why does one credit have a value of 10? and why can't you just automatically balance the trade with credits?
No, i have to split credits like a retard and try if the trader accepts the deal.
>>320742373
>The trading system is shit.
No u
>Why does one credit have a value of 10?
Because i's not the only currency in the game and it makes the values of all items more flexible.
>And why can't you just automatically balance the trade with credits?
You can, there is a fucking button to even the deal with whatever currency the trader accepts.
>No, i have to split credits like a retard and try if the trader accepts the deal.
Well maybe it's because you are, in fact, a retard.
>>320714194
>7% off on steam
Why tho
>>320743727
Because that's the amount the creators wanted to discount it. Duh.
got this off gog and literally just started playing it.
finished the tutorial and it looks pretty neat so far.
who camera smasher here?
>>320742373
>why can't you just automatically balance the trade with credits?
You can, just press Auto.
I still don't understand trading though. Can I sell vendor trash to anyone, or should I always give them exactly what they are looking for in bulks?
>>320744996
They won't even accept trash. The only buy what they need, which is great, at least to me. More games should have this
>>320745363
That's pretty inconvenient, but just as neat. Can they run out of shit they want, though? Because if they do, I'll have to be more careful with selling them the cheapest components I find.
>>320745753
>Can they run out of shit they want, though?
Yes and you will be finidng way too much loot to sell it all.
Pick only the most valueable things and those with the best weight/value ratio.
>>320745753
I don't think they can run out
Doctors will want medicine and ingredients for it, weapon merchans will want weapons, engineers parts, and researchers animal parts.
>>320746189
>>320746216
Alright, thanks. In that case I'll dump everything I have at the moment in a container and compare them later. Probably when I have something more interesting than gibbed rats.
Guess that psi training will have to wait.
>>320744671
It was inevitable.
>>320714194
Its fucking hard.
But the character building and mood is incredible. Trying to make a psi user with some sidearms as secondary weapons.
>>320720150
Undertale was devastating enough to keep me thinking about it months after I last played it.
That poor goat, jesus.
>>320721319
Pillars gets too much flak, the combat is decent in Path of the Damned and the game overall is very well made. Its not Obsidian best attempt at story but it does its job.
Weapons degrade way too fucking fast, what the hell.
>>320748190
I guess thats the System Shock 2 experience.
Downloading, I hope it's not shit
>>320746673
Your room at the SGS is a great "player base".
You can stuff all the junk to sell in one of the contaniers, things that will be useful for later in the other etc.
>>320748190
How?
I have to repair them after like a dozen encounters, it's not bad at all.
is underrail the sequal to undertale?
>>320749364
Yes
>>320747718
I stopped playing them because the gameplay was tolerable but the art direction and plot were horrendous. No point in me playing an average game that's not pleasing to the eye. Gotta have something going for it.
Force field is surprisingly neat if you need to recharge your psi or heal for a few rounds.
>>320714194
Game looks like shit and it probably plays with dated gameplay.
>>320749158
Good idea, I'll probably do that. The room had like 4 or 5 containers, so I can even sort them based on category.
On a side note, the Tranquility perk is fantastic, at least against low level enemies.
>>320750552
>not pleasing to the eyes
It had its moments.
>>320716336
thats gay af my homie
Just installed the game, and before I start, I have a couple questions since I am going almost blind:
a) Does the game have a hard level/skill/perk cap?
b)Are you likely to miss shit of you go to areas in specific order, or can I just drop shit I do in one area and try a different direction?
c)Relatively bug free or should I save every minute?
>RPG Codex still shilling this shitty TOTALLY OLDSCHOOL, GUYS game which doesn't have advanced features even Fallout 1 had, like running. Every trip back to town to sell your beaver spleens and tin cans will take 20 minutes as you slowly walk through the gates, to the elevator, and then to a dozen different people because you can't sell all your shit in one place
>>320750552
I liked the art if you are referring to the armors and weapons, although I do agree with you that they could be more high fantasy and more distinctive without going to korean mmo territory.
I really think the game gets too much shit, there is potential there for an amazing sequel. I just like the feel of the game, animations etc.
>>320729658
That's wrong, though. They have a longer range than the other melee weapons in Morrowind.
You're still right that there's not much positive to be said about the game's combat overall, however, especially not in comparison to traditional cRPGs.
>>320752041
Also, Oddity or Classic XP mode for the first playthrough?
>raping bandits in tunnels with psi fists and incinerating them with psi flamethrower
>those faggots actually have combat taunts and screams based on what weapon and damage type you use against them
>>320752084
All it needs is running and better font for larger resolutions. You also need to stop picking up useless shit and treat your OCD instead.
>>320752084
I'm pretty sure Codex is shilling it as a good game because it has little in common with story-centric games like Fallout even though that's the first comparison people are drawing. F1 and F2 are intrinsically different compared to Undderrail.
>>320752239
Oddity.
>>320752084
>someone is talking about a game on a gaming board
>I WON'T STAND FOR THIS
>Made stealth+psi operator guy
>Got to Psychokinesis, seeing what they do
>Thinking about making a new STR+CONS+PSI cybermonk instead, to wreck shit unarmed and
>>320752239
Oddity is great unless you have some masochistic desire for grinding.
If anybody is a piratefag.
Here it is.
http://igg-games.com/underrail-free-download.html
>>320751535
Ah yes, paralyzed backdrop you can't do nothing with populated by horrendous sprites.
>>320715490
It's underage retards maymaying and repeating stupid things thinking they'll fit in.
>>320752876
The cybermeme needs to end. You can't be a cybork in Underrail.
>>320752876
You seriously don't even need CON just because most of the time enemies will get stunned into oblivion, blocked by psi walls or just unable to react before you punch the living shit out of them.
Go full 10DEX/10WILL, get the trait that gives bonus damage against stunned or chilled enemies, get lighting punches and go full fucking fuckface.
>>320752876
Shit, I want an E.Y.E. RPG so bad. But we all know it will never happen. And neither will a proper sequel for that matter.
>>320753802
you do know the sequel to E.Y.E. is in the works?
streum on is currently busy with the warhammer game theyre making.
and plan to use that experience to make the eye sequel more polished and less clunky.
>>320753332
You need CON now because activating Psi removes 25% of your base HP, which affects your health growth as well. I made a 10 dex / 10 will psi monk in the release and it wasn't nearly as good as it was in EA.
Old school crpg fan playing it now.
Combat is garbage so far. Most people should give it a miss.
>>320754207
>Combat is garbage so far.
how so?
>>320754034
Last I heard they said they will begin working on a sequel if the wh40k game will turn enough of a profit. And they said that IF they were to make another E.Y.E game it would be a prequel in the days when the metastreumonic force first appeared on earth and that it would be squad based primarily, kinda like SWAT.
>>320754207
inb4 someone who thinks RTwP is a good model for combat
>>320754321
he's getting wrekt by psi beetles and ragequitting.
>>320754321
Just feels bad. Maybe it's because I'm low level and only have basic bitch attacks but combat has gone like this for me so far.
>see rathound
>if it's far away I shoot it, if it's close I stab it
>attack 4 times, they're usually dead
>they attack me 4 times doing little damage
>repeat until either I die or they die
It's a snooze fest. No targeted attacks, no strategy just click click click. Feels like turn based diablo.
>>320754406
It's better than real time without pause but turn based is always the better option. But in this game combat just seems boring. Definitely not a game for joe average and probably a game most crpg fans won't like much, unless we're all so thirsty collectively we're willing to pretend this is good. I've played h-games with better combat.
>>320754786
So you've basically played for an hour at best. Rathounds aren't the only enemy in the game. Reserve your judgement for when you stack up on skills and equipment.
The combat is legit the best of any non squad based RPG I can think of.
>>320754786
Tell me you kept targeting the rats' legs in Fallout too.
Seriously, what did you expect of the first enemy of the game?
The first real encounter is the poisoned bolt shooting faggot with his pet rathounds.
>>320754786
>No targeted attacks
They exist as Feats. Also, you're fighting rats as a level 1 character and you expect combat to be tacticool as fuck. It gets more complex later when enemies heal themselves (so you need to disable then / burst them down fast before they are able to do so), enemies have energy shields and you need to deal, enemies who stun, enemies who stealth attack you with a poison that stuns, run away and then attack you again when the stun procs after a few turns, high armor targets like robots that you have to deal with using EMP nades, electric weapons or Armor Piercing Bullets etc.
>>320755224
Now the real game begins.
>Tank and spank him with my 5 CON and use a single health potion as two rats chew on me and he shoots me with poisoned bolts, I left click him and the rats until they die, encounter over
>>320755525
Or you could lure them into the obviously placed explosive barrel close to the entrance and blow it up when they come close.
Or you could buy a grenade and chuck it in the room and kill all 3 of them instantly.
You have no one else to blame but yourself for beiny so unimaginative.
>>320755171
An hour into a game you'd expect to see something interesting. So far I've got "hey new guy, go flip some switches and don't get eaten by rats. K thnx" no story, no reason why I should do this, I'm just plodding around knifing rathounds and it's super unsatsifying.
>>320720258
>Talos Principle
...had good writing for the first 2/3 of the game (Greek/Egyptian) but then ricocheted into bullshit when they started adding audio logs which shoehorned stupid shit in about multiculturalism.
At least the ending was good and actually didn't pull any stupid twist shit.
>>320755675
Now you're entering Bethesda game levels of bullshit. "It's a real roleplaying game! I sleep at night! I eat food! I don't have to but my immersion and fun!"
>>320755834
He described everything about how the game system works and offers. Bethesda territory is pretending you have to take a shit so you take off your pants and crouch for a minute.
Remember, roleplaying - playing how the system allows you to, like playing a stealth character in a game that has actual stealth as one of the possibilities
LARPing - making shit up for muh immershun, like imagining you have rathound phobia so you run away from them for no reason other than to support this stupid feature that doesn't exist
>>320755525
Even with "potion" the poison fucked my ass, but good for you buddy.
Guess it's just the game's fault that you took the boring "high hp tank" playstyle.
>>320756540
>high hp tank
>5 con
>>320755834
Sounds like you are actively trying to hate the game instead of opening up to see all the options it is offering you. I won't bother trying to help you since you've already made up your mind about the game.
Did anyone run the game on l00nix?
>>320756318
Wait, I thought LARPers are those faggots who dress up as knights and elves and whatnot, then go into a forest and beat the living crap out of each other with custom made swords.
Was I wrong?
>>320754786
>No targeted attacks, no strategy
>what is targeted shot
>what is kneecap shot
>what is point shot
>what is snipe
>what is execute
>what is dirty kick
>what is like a dozen of other special attacks
>what are grenades
>what are flashbangs
>what are mines
>what are caltrops
>what are bear traps
>what are molotovs
>what are explosive barrels
You can choose targeted shot at level 1, and all the utilities as well. You are either baiting or just shit m8.
It's nice.
>>320757585
Or I didn't play a crafter and didn't have the right stats to get targeted shot.
Sorry, I don't play with a guide, that's for faggos
>>320757874
>Talking shit about something you know nothing about.
twat
>>320757874
...what did you play?
>>320757874
http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Aimed_Shot
6 in Perception
10 in the Guns or Crossbow skill
There's literally no way you can't be eligible for this Feat if you are playing as a ranged character.
>>320757874
>Or I didn't play a crafter
They can be bought. All of them.
>didn't have the right stats to get targeted shot
Then why the fuck do you complain about no targeted shots you fucking idiot?
It's like taking Fast Shot in Fallout and going "wow why the game is so monotonous, no strategy shit game 0/10"
>Sorry, I don't play with a guide, that's for faggos
All the requirements are shows in the feats window.
You should drop Underrail, I don't think Styg made it with retards in mind.
>>320757584
Technically you are correct, but in video game terms, larpers are those who, in a way, dress up as knights and elves and whatnot, then go into a forest etc. in a video game. If you get what I mean.
Example of roleplaying in a videogame - you're jc dentn and you refuse to kill, relying on stealth and tranq darts. The game supports this approach with it's combat and stealth mechanics and story wise with Paul whining about how you shouldn't use lethal foce.
larping in a videogame - you pretend JC denton is a transequal and that xe has claustrophobia so you avoid vent shafts to not get a heart attack.
>mfw Chemistry and Throwing
Grenades feel so good in this game.
>>320757584
This should be a spectator event
>>320758105
fairly balanced character. Everything's a 5 except con which is a 7. int will str are all 6's. Didn't upgrade perception because guns are for when they're too far away to smack with a stick.
>>320758131
I don't do builds, they're not good for roleplaying.
>>320758396
And i didn't buy them. even if I had them I wouldn't use them because the knife works, it's just boring as fuck.
Honestly the underrail fanboys are looking thirsty and desperate to defend shit gameplay to me. Here's a protip. If you're rules-lawyering, you're not roleplaying.
>>320759256
But it is. I forget what it's called, but once every year in Europe they hold a ye olde tournament with people dressed up in armor whacking at each other with swords while crawling in mud. Teams are divided by countries.
>>320759382
>I don't do builds, they're not good for roleplaying
And you're the weak faggot who came in here claiming that you are a "Old school crpg fan".
Fallout 3 ain't old school. Now fuck off.
>>320759382
>And i didn't buy them.
Again, why do you fucking complain about combat being monotonous if you make it be like this on purpose?
> even if I had them I wouldn't use them because the knife works, it's just boring as fuck
>t-this game is boring
>but you can do x, y,z...
>yeah but I didn't lol
Logic is not exactly your forte.
>>320759528
>but once every year in Europe
>Europe
Man, nothing fun ever happens in Burgerland
I should consider relocating.
>>320758620
Ah, that does explain it. Although personally I have nothing against self-imposed challenges, but the way you explain it really does sound retarded as fuck. For example nuzlocking is pretty much this, it is definitely not supported by the game itself, but many enjoy it anyway.
>>320759756
>he had to use a guide and/or metagame to get through 90s crpgs
Should have kept that to yourself son.
>>320759791
Again, why would I use a grenade or caltrops when I have no reason to. I spent my money on a dope ass knife, how was I to know the combat would be turn based diablo?
>potato slav cuck in charge of writing
shiiiiiiet.
>>320760036
>need guides to play effectively
I pity your family for having to take care of such a gigantic retard. There is nothing obscure about the stats and skills in Underrail, everything is spelled out to you. All the feats and the requirements are there. All it requires is you to sit down and read and think for yourself for one moment, because Todd Howard isn't going to guide you through this one.
Time to get tough or get fucked, kid.
>>320760036
>I spent my money on a dope ass knife, how was I to know the combat would be turn based diablo?
Because you deliberately make it be like this by ignoring all other options given to you?
Did you complain about Fast Shot in Fallout as well?
>>320760036
It is highly recommended to get grenades if you are playing melee so that you get some form of crowd control and AoE damage.
Why doesn't anyone at SGS sell a fucking MK II lockpick dammit.
>>320760501
>everyone who doesn't like this game is obviously a fan of fallout 4!
Nice reading comprehension btw.
>>320760610
Fallout's combat is fucking amazing. If this game played like fallout I could knife rats in the dick. Don't besmirch fallout again by comparing it to this disguised clickfest. You could also buy scrolls and shit in diablo, doesn't mean the combat was "deep"
>>320760701
Probably should have, but it's not really the point. Having grenades wouldn't change the feel of the combat.
Like I said ages ago, there are literally pornographic chineese cartoon games with better combat than this.
>>320760931
>If this game played like fallout I could knife rats in the dick
http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Dirty_Kick
But Anon, why would I strike the dick, I have fast shot and it works. Fallout is boring.
By your logic every game ever made is boring .
>>320761189
That's not even close to the same thing. Everyone can stab things in the dick in fallout.
In this game, only a specialist can attempt such a herculean feat as kicking a guy in the dick. Even then it's done in such a boring and static way so as to ruin the inherit joy one would recieve in kicking something in the dick.
>>320759528
I remember actually seeing some medieval style swordfighting tournament on youtube. It's a thing with spectators, prizes and everything. And pretty hardcore.
>>320761389
> Everyone can stab things in the dick in fallout.
But why would I even do that. Normal shooting works. Whole game was just a clickfest.
Boring game Anon, as every other game in existance.
>>320761189
Fallout 4 is a good game because you can take a feat so you regenerate health when you have radiation damage. And you can take a feat where enemy shots can bounce back and kill them. And you can take a feat where you can teleport behind enemies for melee attacks. Truly, Fallout 4 has a deep and complex combat system because it has feats that give new attacks and change game mechanics.
I swear to fuck, all these people praising "Old school RPGs" like Underrail and Pillars of Eternity grew up playing goddamn Bioware games and don't know what the hell they're talking about.
>>320761621
Even if I just went fast shot and shot things in the torso the whole game, there's still interesting things that can happen. People can fall down in combat.
In this game, damage just ticks away until things die.
Also another important distinction, you have to go out of your way to ruin fallout's combat with fast shot whereas in Underrail you have to go out of your way to make it interesting by buying dick kicking perks.
>>320760931
I dunno, changes plenty enough of the feel of combat for me.
>EMP grenade to disable shields completely and highly lethal against robotic enemies
>Flashbangs to disorient enemies
>Molotov cocktail for burning damage and setting the ground on fire causing damage to anyone standing there
>Toxic Gas Grenades to cause Bio damage and make enemies take 200% more damage from everything
>Cryogas Grenade reduces targets Con value and causes Hypothermia which will eventually freeze the enemy when they have enough stacks
>Frag Grenades are great mutli purpose AoE crowd killers
They bring in a lot of utility.
>>320760931
>Fallout's combat is fucking amazing.
Oh shit nigger what are you doing
Fallout has easily one of the most boring combats known to man, behind probably only arcanum and ps:t. It's retardo easy and simplistic from start to finish. Easily the worst and weakest part of the game after the horrible unbalanced non working garbage that is SPECIAL.
Yeah, you smell like an immershunfaggot or a storyfag to me.
>>320761973
whatever nigger you clearly didn't embrace your tacticool options.
>play big strong brawler
>super mutants at the watershed talking shit
>punch to the balls
>super mutant giggles cuz he has a tiny pecker and is trying to say that won't work
>snap his leg, punch his tiny dicked faggot face in
>he tries to run away but he can't because he's now a crippled tiny dicked monster
>proceed to beat him and all his friends to death while ingesting large quantities of drugs
God tier combat.
>>320761790
>Even if I just went fast shot and shot things in the torso the whole game, there's still interesting things that can happen. People can fall down in combat.
They didn't in my game and it wouldn't change it being a clickfest. Might be because I had 1 Luck, but it still worked and the game is boring.
>Also another important distinction, you have to go out of your way to ruin fallout's combat with fast shot
I had another run without fast shot, same shit.
>b-but you could use aimed attacks
Yeah I could, but why would I do that? Normal ones worked.
>whereas in Underrail you have to go out of your way to make it interesting by buying dick kicking perks
You actually have to go out of your way to never choose an ability perk since you can take them every 2 levels, and not pick any other skills than melee since you are literally forced to take more.
Man, I wish games wouldn't be so boring, all of them.
>>320762194
>>b-but you could use aimed attacks
>Yeah I could, but why would I do that? Normal ones worked.
(he didn't aim for the eyes)
>>320760110
Could have used a bit of tuning but fuck it, I understood what he meant and for a lonely slav making his dream vidya Im willing to look over that sort of stuff
>>320762178
You keep equating tacticalness with punching rodents in the penis. That's not how it works. Fallout is fucking simplistic and primitive. It's one of the most boring TB combat systems ever.
>>320762356
Just because I can do something doesn't mean the game isn't a boring clickfest.
Well, at least according to that Anons logic.
>>320762194
Nigga, in Fallout 1 people are constantly falling over due to you shooting them with a goddamn combat shotgun
In Fallout 2 its even more prevalent since that tribal guy you get early is a monster with a sledgehammer so everyone is tumbling around
>>320762497
Not really simplistic m8.
When you kick shit in the dick in fallout there's a lot going on under the hood. Will they take extra damge or go down stunned or lose all hope because you crushed their manhood and flee the scene?
Arguably more complicated than d&d and objectively more complicated when it comes to kicking dicks.
>>320762648
They don't unless you get crits and roll high enough in the crit table.
Hard to do that with 1 luck and no aimed shots.
>Anon clearly has made up his mind
>People still reply
The fuck are you doing?
Just tell him to fuck off and be done with it
>>320762748
Myeh, fair enough. I agree with you completely on the fact that F1&2 combat is extremely simplistic.
Played it for a bit, trivial plot (what's the point of it then, just make a combat simulator), middling combat, awful pacing, really awful pacing in every sense of the world, solid art direction for the scope of the project (much better than that Shadowrun piece of shit) and I honestly have no idea how well can those interesting skills be utilized in mid to late game.
Game does a very poor job of pointing you in the right direction, it could at least give you a nudge and this emphasizes the point about pacing further.
I don't think this sort of game should be immune to complaints just because it's a proper old school RPG? When does tradition become stagnation or even devolution? I understand that some genres are immune to most changes except minuscule tweaks (fighting games or dungeon crawlers come to mind) but don't isometric wRPGs deserve to move forward in a sense, try something new? Perhaps it's enough for many 'diehard' fans of the genre to have another game regurgitating 20 year old concepts but if you made, say, Darklands today why would it need to follow exactly the same principles? I don't think that tweaked Dungeons and Dragons models of gameplay offer so little opportunity for innovation, they should serve as damage guideposts while gameplay can be developed around that staple.
These games have started melding together in a bunch of assets stitched over lethargic interaction.
>>320762689
Fallout still misses important options like Zone of Control, Attack of Opportunity, height advantage / disadvantage, prone, laying down, standing etc. so I wouldn't go saying that Fallout is more complex and tactical than D&D is.
Aimed shots are a nice feature, but it's not enough to elevate Fallouts shlockfest of a combat into anything interesting. The only reason people undured it in the first place was because of the amusing death animations.
>>320762917
This.
"Game is boring because I make it boring on purpose" Anon can fuck off, rest of you has to post your chars and their main weapon NOW.
>>320763243
>Game does a very poor job of pointing you in the right direction
Not enough quest markers for you?
What is " pointing you in the right direction?" anyway? Every NPC tells you where to go and how to get there.
>>320762405
Very good, he made you his cuck too.
In this world, it's cuck or be cucked.
And you took it ALL!
>>320763243
> but don't isometric wRPGs deserve to move forward in a sense, try something new?
Oddity system is something new, to name one thing.
>>320763243
>Game does a very poor job of pointing you in the right direction
Wut. It literally tells you where you need to go. Even when the game opens up when you finally get access to Core City there's still a plot that is very specific in where you should go and what you should do.
>don't isometric wRPGs deserve to move forward in a sense, try something new?
Do you have any specific ideas in mind? Personally I find the design philosophy in this game to be a goddamn revolution. I haven't seen a game with this elegant stat and skill design in a long time. The way the builds come together with good planning is masterful. Most of the skills are very good as well. Even Skills that are usually throwaway skills like, well, Throwing, are very good in this game.
How long is this game supposed to last?
>>320763906
It's a full-scale RPG.
>>320763906
10 hours of real content and 70 hours of walking and filler fed-ex.
>>320760110
>implying some random sailor living in a post-aco metro named Broderick would speak perfect English
You odn't go out very often do you?
>>320763416
Since I'm playing as an Esper, I have no main weapon. Here's my armor that I crafted in stead.
>>320764079
>implying a simple sailor would say 'it's not that just that'
LOLed at a vault-dwelling wizard.
I bet in your dreams you often see wisemen that say 'literally' in a way underage fourchaner does!
Get a life, salty recluse.
I hope the creator keeps making these games.
The crpg need more iteration, more and more games so the flaws can be ironed out.
I would love to play a team based turn combat like this, a good dungeon crawl with good character interaction.
>>320763872
That's okay, forgot to say that.
>>320763701
Age of Decadence does a good job there. It's a storytelling skill. Maybe not have so many long empty corridors, maybe not make trekking back such a chore?
>>320763881
>Do you have any specific ideas in mind?
Cross between old XCom and Frozen Synapse, squad based model... not much you can do with only one protag, and actually going a bit more action-y here would probably end up being slightly more tactical. More emphasis on environment and TECHNOLOGY advances (that are non-existant) in this genre as with many others would instantly open far more combat options to start with. For example, and I didn't play a psi character - my guess is you cannot pick up various room objects and use them with your mind, you cannot rip weapons out of characters' hands / make them suicide (though I would expect you can do this) etc. I know this is something not even AAA games do in a coherent way but it would go a long way here.
>>320764068
This is a problem with most RPGs, I've recently played SMT Nocturne and it serves padding through bunch of trivial encounters topped off with demanding bossfights. But most of the game is spent fiddling in menus. I hate the mentality that derides games filled with content that last for 5-10 hours.
>>320764551
You haven't been outside much then. Idiots misuse the word "literally" much more than 4channers do.
t. person with a job
I really don't like fallout style combat.
I wish he knocked off xcom instead.
The setting is fun, the abilities are fun, the crafting is fun.
I just wish the actual combat was more fun.
Also how the fuck am I supposed to kill these fucking psi beetles. God damn bullet sponges. Should have leveled sneak.
>>320764792
>Age of Decadence does a good job there.
Yes it does, but it's kinda different. It's a niche within a niche, I enjoyed both but I wouldn't really compare them.
>>320765020
Punch them in the face
>>320765020
>I wish he knocked off xcom instead.
We already got Wastealnd 2 not so long ago, let us have our Fallout too.
>>320765020
You spot one, enter combat and overwhelm him with everything you got before they get a turn, get closer and get buffed as a result. The other two then died fairly easily. Worked for me.
>>320765020
AP rounds.
Bigger caliber guns.
Throwing nets.
Grenades.
Bear traps.
Mines.
There are options.
>>320764551
You do know he's actually using it correctly, right? The bugs are psions, they fuck with your mind. That's why he said "literally", because it's not just a figure of speech.
>>320764079
>O-of course, it's not that Styg is a fucking slav with barely any language skills, i-it's a stylisation! Honest! W-what, don't piss on my shoes!
pathetic tbqh senpai
>>320765064
Well they both have a single character combat for start. They aren't that dissimilar. Maybe it's unfair to ask TECHNOLOGY from Underrail, but it's the only way to move the genre forward.
>>320764792
>Cross between old XCom
You mean X-COM. And a better game, if we are fantasizing here, to emulate would've been Jagged Alliance 2. But that shit ain't never happening.
>>320765524
>B-but it's correct!
Nobody fucking cares, it's a retarded slav that learned English by frequeting 4chan speaking, not his elaborate work on making it sound authentic.
Fuck off to 4chan, you bastard.
>>320765653
But there is some technology in Underrail. The AI reacts to sound, for example. I was running in the Junkyard and I stepped on a mine which caused a mutant rape squad to come and investigate the place where the explosion was. This can be used to your advantage as well if you are packing something like grenades.
>>320765582
>assumptions
Styg is a fucking slav with barely any language skills, but people with poor education speaking poor English make sense.
>>320765132
I have jack shit in melee.
>>320765404
I've got a few throwing nets left, I'll give that a try, thanks.
>>320765930
That's nice but nothing new of course. I also noticed that you aggro everyone when you try to open a drawer in their vicinity, they just come at you wanting your head which is kinda dissonant but probably a way to counter exploits.
Started playing it today
Blasting rathounds in the caverns is more fun than I thought it would be. Especially when you have a molotov or 2 handy.
>>320765653
>it's the only way to move the genre forward
Fuck right off, retard
Not every game needs to be a golden paragon of innovation
>>320720150
Pathologic
>>320765661
rpgcodex and/or tacticular caner detected
>>320765837
I'm a Slav yet I can easily tell what's wrong with your sentence here.
You are in no position to argue over speech forms.
>complain about incorrect 4chan use of English
>get told it is indeed the right use of English
>respond with "NOBODY FUCKING CARES I AM TRIGGERED"
It's time to stop posting.
Also what this guy said >>320766010
Is a pure psion doable? Maybe with some intelligence and grenade crafting on the side?
>all that AoE
>>320766153
>dissing TECHNOLOGY
>>320766302
Yes. It's OP even in late game, as stated in the thread before.
>>320766302
And just to avoid this question from being asked in the future
>Is X doable?
The answer is always yes. Anything is doable in Underrail, and anything can be good with some character planning.
>>320766254
>rpgcodex and/or tacticular caner detected
We're all Codexers ITT, except for that one faggot who said he was an old school RPG player and then cried like a bitch because there was no hand holding in the character building.
>>320766791
The one who liked fallout FOR THE COMBAT?
Yeah, he'd probably it in with rpgwatch.
>>320766385
Ain't dissing it, fag
Just saying that I'm just fine with a game being great. Doesn't have to innovate
>aggro a bunch of mutants and mutant dogs
>have to back track through the area
>they're all waiting for me at the transition
So glad I took the Sprint feat. Fuck this entire mission.
>>320760110
>slav
>game has no Russian translation
>>320767130
Then you should not be mad at me for debating what I consider to be stale genre tenets preventing innovation and true renaissance of wRPG. This is not a hugbox.
Oh god please tell me fishing in this game is not a realistic fishing simulator. I have been waiting for minutes now, but nothing is happening. Tell me I don't have to wait for hours.
>>320724417
>>320724221
>This is what ShadowRun babbies actually believe.
>>320768992
It should take a minute tops.
>>320768283
Someone needs to buy you new buzzwords for christmas.
>>320770121
hurr if you don't like old buzzwords don't read them durr
>>320769798
Thanks.
I assume a catch is not guaranteed and I just have really shit luck. Already set up the fishing rod like 15 times and not even a nibble.
>>320770310
You do know that you need to clck on it as soon as something starts pulling the string, right?
>>320770497
Yep. My eyes are glued to the screen. Not sure how much success I can expect with only 5 dex, but that isn't going to matter until I get something to catch. Anything.
Game slams.
>Tumblrrail
No thanks.
Reminder that the Rathound King did nothing wrong and rathounds are being unfairly hunted.
>>320770773
I don't think you can fish in every body of water, too.
>>320772068
According to the wiki that shouldn't be the case:
>All waters in the release version, including sewage, have something to be fished.
Unless there was a change in plans and it didn't get implemented in time. I think I'll try a different location though, just in case.
