http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/367863/Nintendos+CEO+comments+on+Amiibo+misuse/
>New Nintendo boss Tatsumi Kimishima isn't as happy about Amiibo as he might be, this because people aren't using them in the way Nintendo intended.
>"Our earliest goal for the Amiibo was to have these connected to software and have them enhance the play experience for the consumer," the company chief pointed out in an interview with Time Magazine.
>"What we're seeing instead is that the Amiibo are being picked up more as a collection item at this point, rather than, say, as an interactive item with software. And so we haven't really established them as an enhancement for all of our software at this point."
I bought mine because of the toys. My friend, however, has something that allows him to save 30 Amiibo data on one thing, and he can change what character is on it whenever. I forgot what it was called.
But yeah, I do agree more people are picking them up as collector itemes.
As long as they are selling, why does he give a fuck?
>>320689448
>make decent looking action figures
>they aren't $50 like all their other action figures
>wonder why people buy those for collecting rather then their other shit
>>320689448
Fuck disc locked content.
>people arent playing the games how we want them to
Modern Nintendo in a nutshell
>>320689448
>how dare you use collectible figurines like collectible figurines!
BASED YAKUZA MAN
Yeah, Amiibos are pretty useless aside from smash, and some of them cant even be used in other games
>>320689718
Because the heads of Nintendo are fucking idiots
>>320689448
>people aren't playing with their toys right WAAAH
what the fuck did he expect
>>320689448
why does this asshole look mean as fuck in all of his pictures? iwata actually smiled. this jap will cut off your dick with a samurai sword
>>320689749
>collecting action figures
Hopefully he pushes for NFC cards that are much cheaper than the figurines. Maybe even make it like a trading card game for extra goy.
>>320689448
YOU WILL UNDERSTAND
Then they should make a game where they do something more than just unlock costumes/skins
>>320689448
why do they even give a shit
they're selling like crazy despite being more or less useless
So now we should expect having to own every single Amiibo to get any cosmetics, right? The hell is the problem with considering them collectibles with the side function of having the ability to unlock things?
They really should just make a DI/Skylanders/LD thing with Nintendo characters and have it work with any existing Amiibos, and the different types of Amiibos you do have(Like Smash vs Mario Party for instance) have slightly different changes depending on what type it is.
>>320689718
He spelled it out clearly for you. He wants Amiibos to be incentive to buy more software, but instead most people are buying them as collectible toys and probably don't even own the system.
>>320689960
This, but I think that's his point.
Maybe if they programmed more worthwhile things into games instead of dumb cameos and Easter eggs they would see better results.
Queers & their dolls.
>>320689918
Nintendo is a very traditional Japanese company. Iwata was an outlier.
>>320690116
But then people would cry about paying $600 to completely own a game. There's no winning situation.
The problem is that Smash is the only game that even uses most of them in a meaningful way.
They really need a Skylanders type game to do what it is they want to do.
>>320689932
I think its retarded as well, but just saying. If you want to get some cool figure in a box to sit on your shelf then you might as well get the cheap one that is also highly sought after.
>Let's create a limited supply of a product and integrate it in all our products
>Why are people collecting and sitting on these products we are no longer producing
The plot thickens
>>320689845
Great.
I don't want more content locked
>>320690192
The winning situation would be no software interaction at all. There would be no content behind paywalls, and autists would still be able to blow their money on some toys.
>>320689448
Maybe if they didn't make some more rare than others
>>320689448
>Product is selling
>Company is making money
>The CEO doesn't like that just because they aren't buying it for the right reasons
Ayyy lmao, seriously nigga, you actually thought that these were going to make interaction with software an enhanced experience? It's literally just plastic you put on a thing and then boop, a thing pops up, giving you a thing or letting you do a thing. Dumb nigga.
Also I have like 15 amiibo
>>320690224
Mario Party has amiibo data too, but it erases your smash data if you use it. It won't even let you back it up.
>>320690361
But how will Nintendo jew their dwindling fanbase?
>>320689448
>>320689448
But they add very little to the software any damn way.
Costumes?
Cpu player for smash
All I can think of.
>>320689448
>And so we haven't really established them as an enhancement for all of our software at this point."
Isn't that just going to encourage more people to treat them as a collector's item?
If you want Amiibos to be game peripherals, then make games that actually use them as peripherals.
>>320689448
That's to be expected when you have a fan base as autistic as the Nintendo fan base.
>>320690361
It's weird because Nintendo related toys besides Amiibos existed before & still existed. Some reason Amiibos sell like crazy even though it seems most people don't actually use them with video games.
>>320689448
>>320689783
Seriously... I can fucking hear Shiggy smashing his skull against a wall constantly as we speak.
>>320690405
You're the dumb one. What he's saying is going over your head. You're fucking absurdly stupid.
Why does this motherfucker look like a boss for the Yamaguchi-gumi?
>>320690053
Why's he give a shit? He's still getting money. I don't own a Wii U, nor do I ever plan to, but I bought the Marth amiibo since FE's my favorite series and there aren't many FE figures.
>MUST.... SHOEHORN...
>...POINTLESS SHIT...
>INTO... GAMES...
>>320689448
He's completely right but the problem doesn't just lie in consumers picking them up to put on a shelf or gouge some poor bastard but they only allowed you to put one games saved data on the fucking thing so instead of more interesting and intuitive features that we can do with or without like what we have in smash with have disc locked content and temporary power ups.
>>320690456
With virtual badges, of course!
Once I found out that Amiibos in Smash were extremely broken, with input reads and upped damage galore, I stopped using them because it wasn't a realistic training method. No real human plays like an amiibo.
>>320689749
These aren't action figures. They don't have joints or swappable parts or any of that. they're just tiny plastic statues.
>>320690664
Because it's not resulting in the main objective of the damn things: making people buy software and therefore making more money and as much money as possible.
>>320690718
>There is no actual Amiibo for him that gives you a guaranteed free play for the day.
>>320690639
Give me a legit good application of amiibo that doesn't make it feel like locked content for a full price game
>>320690692
I think using NFC chips with more memory would likely make them too expensive.
>>320690730
Amiibos are more human than you'll ever. At least they know how to love & be loved. Something a big galoot like yourself will never understand.
>>320689650
Amiiqo, or N^2elite as it's now called due to legal issues.
>>320690831
free to play Skylander's clone.
>>320690831
DLC characters amiibos gives you the DLC characters for "free"
Amiibo tap play contains the entire game.
>>320690405
Because they must have had a business plan which counted on them being used for their planned purposes. Now because they werent used as intended they must now rethink and come up with a new plan as to further amiibo profits. That will waste and use up even more time and money as they figure and plan out a new buisness plan to follow and garner them mor profits and such
If you don't want regards collecting them then don't make it into a collectable form. Make ithem memory chips or just DLC like a normal company. I don't understand what thought was going to happen other than people collecting them.
>>320690885
The thing is that the problem is solved if you just let the player back up the data on the Amiibo to the 3DS or Wii U. It's a bit of hassle but you don't lose your data and you get to switch back and forth game types of the Amiibo whenever you want.
>>320690885
I'm sure you could find ways to more proficiently handle the data, sure Smash probably has a lot of shit but theres no fucking reason I shouldn't be able to use Mario for both smash and mario party
>>320691057
>DLC characters amiibos gives you the DLC characters for "free"
It's not free if you have to buy a toy for it. It's like saying PS+ games are free.
>>320691214
Are you retarded?
Didn't you see the "s?
>>320689448
>>"What we're seeing instead is that the Amiibo are being picked up more as a collection item at this point, rather than, say, as an interactive item with software. And so we haven't really established them as an enhancement for all of our software at this point."
He is literally saying
>people started collecting them so we just said fuck it and stop trying to make them worth buying for software
Seriously every single fucking executive needs to have their heads examined at that this company. This guy is a long way away from Reggie levels but shit he is definitely starting strong
>>320691298
Yes.
And?
Maybe people would be incentivized to play more software if it wasn't so fucking weak and dated.
Nintendo is fun and puts out a quality product but they can't just take themselves seriously on a whim and act like they don't understand how nintendo fans are just playing with toys. Motherfucker, all your company makes are toys.
I'm not some sonyfag or xbone kiddy, but Nintendo isn't like them. If Nintendo wants to appeal to fans with software, they shouldn't have made their console as weak as a fucking gamecube.
>>320689448
Maybe if you faggots actually released some merchandise of your IPs other than Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon, people wouldn't buy them as collectables.
>>320689448
This happened because Nintendo are to retarded to make an Skylanders Disney Infinity game with The Amiibos.
T R A N S F O R M A T I O N
>>320691073
What I am saying is that people buying these as merch and the company making a profit off of them seems like a solid system. There is no reason for the President to be upset
>>320691392
>>>people started collecting them so we just said fuck it and stop trying to make them worth buying for software
how is that a bad thing?
>We plan to heavily focus on amiibos with our future console the Nintendo NX
>>320691392
It costs money to add amiibo features to games. If people aren't going to use the amiibos anyway, then spending that time and money to develop those features is a waste.
>people are giving us money for the wrong reasons
What a stupid fucking problem to have.
>>320691761
>>320691808
>IT'S FINE NINTENDO SHOULDN'T BOTHER MAKING THESE THINGS WORTH BUYING FOR SOFTWARE EVEN THOUGH THAT IS THE ENTIRE PURPOSE
>>320691392
>we just said fuck it and stop trying to make them worth buying for software
That sounds like a good thing.
>>320691869
Calm down sperg.
How is that a bad thing? Do you want to feel forced to buy them to unlock stuff ingame?
if the games that used them didn't suck maybe people would buy them
>>320691869
>actually wanting disc locked content
>How do we get people to buy our video games?
>We'll release toys that unlock shit
>Oh people are just collecting them, I guess we need focus even more on shit to unlock even though no one cares about that
>And we'll make mobile games with our characters too
Why can't this company just learn to do normal advertising? Do they know what a commercial is?
>>320691869
I'm not excusing it, just explaining their thought process.
People are buying the product in an unexpected way. Rather than wasting money trying to pursue the original, it makes more sense to capitalize on the way it's actually being used.
>>320691984
>there is blood in my stool. And my father's semen!
>>320690503
Then you have the "locked content" worm can.
>>320692027
>Do they know what a commercial is?
Sort of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jbEXIzcZIA
>want to buy neat figurines
>don't want my roommates to think that I'm a retarded manbaby
>>320689448
maybe they should just add worthwhile content to unlock with amiibos
and inb4 locking shit behind a paywall
they should just make it so that the content can be earned through normal gameplay but can be unlocked instantly or more easily with your amiibo
>>320692147
I'm sure they're already well aware.
And once again, /v/ is being retarded. You don't get what Takumi is actually complaining about.
Great job faggots, you make this place a lot more entertaining to read.
>>320690096
>>320690224
>>320690802
Surprisingly, a few anons here got the idea.
They should simply stop doing this unlock nonsense with them, remove the NFC chips and sell them for a bit less.
Bet that would increase sales too.
>>320692173
So like Mario Maker?
>>320692027
They are japanese. Have you ever watched a japanese ad?
I almost bought animal crossing amiibo festival for $35 just for Isabelle #selfconrol
>>320689448
How do you expect me to use my Pokemon amiibo when most amiibo compatible games can't use them?
>>320689448
Good god at least he fucking gets it. I was terrified it would be "Oh, people love amiibo, let's make them a central part of all our games"
>"What we're seeing instead is that the Amiibo are being picked up more as a collection item at this point, rather than, say, as an interactive item with software. And so we haven't really established them as an enhancement for all of our software at this point."
Well no fucking shit, when the supply is so low and the demand high this will happen.
A guy I know collects Amiibos and doesn't even own a WiiU. He makes extra money by buying figures from anime and comics and reselling them three or four years later at incredible markups.
Its scalper bait.
>>320692347
If you really want Isabelle that much just import her from japan or jurop. She's a seperate thing here.
>>320692395
how much money is this friend of yours making?
>Bought a Captain Falcon Amiibo today
>Unlocked a Mario Kart costume and a Mario Maker costume and then put it on the shelf
MAKE GAMES THAT USE IT YOU PAKI FUCK
If you even own one Amiboo you're a Nintendo manbaby so you might as well keep buying them.
>>320692347
I almost bought it for full price until I saw that Isabelle's legs are fused together where there should be a gap between them.
Nintendo Skyfinity when?
I wish I could use the Amiibo for their intended use, but I'm too poor to buy the actual games they work with, meaning that all of my things are just collecting dust in a corner of my room.
God damn it.
thought he was going to be complaining about you manchildren cumming on them lol
>>320692565
kimishima pls leave
>>320689448
But why? You literally marketed the amiibo as a collectible by associating them with figurines, what the fuck were you expecting?
>hey guys check out our cool little models of all your favorite characters! purchase one for in-game benefits!
>wait woah what are you faggots doing this was for GAMEPLAY ONLY
>>320692528
The thing is that they're at a catch 22. If they make stuff locked behind Amiibos then people bitch about them being locked behind Amiibos, but if they don't add extra content locked behind the Amiibos then the entire point of them is just as a collectible. The Spinner is a good example of this, and the bitching about the Splatoon stuff still exists to this day. A problem is that a lot of the functions they use to get around this is a "One-time use per day" kind of thing like in Zip-lash, Kirby, and Hyrule Warriors which is basically just random stuff or a small power up that means absolutely nothing, so why would you bother to spend the five minutes to use them?
I personally hope they have a Disney Infinity-esque game in the works since that would make more sense than anything at this moment.
>>320689448
People who claim that the content the Amiibo comes with is just a bonus incentive finally getting BTFO.
These things were a platform for on-disc DLC from the very start and you fell for it hook, line, and sinker.
>Murricans struggling to get any amiibos/mass buying them out of spite
>Over here there's never any issues with stock
Top kek, I don't even like the things or even own any of them.
>>320689448
So why doesn't he do a "Kimishima Kommands" telling everyone they're using Amiibos wrong?
>>320692147
They are well aware
Don't worry bro
>>320693098
Nintendo fans aren't exactly the brightest consumers out there.
>>320689448
Has Nintendo thought about going into the Gashapon business? If not they probably should.
>>320689448
So...
While we're at it, anyone up for an Amiibo Thread?
How's your collection? Do you even have one? How many Amiibo do you own and how many more do you wanna buy?
I wanna hear some stories here, come on.
>>320692916
What game I your photo from?
>>320689448
>makes 1 amiibo for every 100 people that want one
>complains that he doesn't want them to be collector's items
>>320693363
idolm@ster iirc
that or the other one
Is it just my area or are the Animal Crossing amiibo selling like shit?
>>320693320
I own only Olimar
you amiibo freaks are fucking disgusting
go back to reddit
considering that most of the "software incentives" are simple shit you can unlock in game, or stupid shit like Mario Party 10's, there's no real reason to use them outside of Smash.
>>320693529
Just like the Mario Partyy ones.
Seems people only care about the Smash Bros. line at all.
I still want a Legend of Zelda line for Amiibo.
>>320689448
He is right
my coworker literally gifted me a dr.mario and toad amiibo because she thought it would be a cute gift to give me.
I don't even know what to do with them , I own smash , mk and splatoon...
>>320691392
> shuts down amiibo
> as bad as reggie
Nah unlike Iwata he actually gets shit done. On disc dlc is cancer
>>320693625
It's easy.
You just cum on them.
That's it.
They're worthless anyway.
>>320691547
I agree, and thank you for realizing this
>>320693690
>shuts down Amiibo
Did you miss him literally saying Amiibo would become a huge part of their entire business?
He's not gonna close a fucking gold mine.
>>320689448
Then actually make more of them so they won't be collector's items that are swiped up by scalpers.
>>320693976
>Having problems with scalpers
>Even after the fucking restockings.
There's no hope for you, Anon.
>>320693624
The Mario Party ones at least had the explanation of already having very common Smash amiibo released for each of them except Toad. People who wanted those characters already bought them.
AC amiibo seem more common than even Peach or Luigi ever were. I guess they didn't expect the Wii U game to bomb so hard.
>>320693624
>a Legend Of Zelda line
They'll never do that, because people would actually buy themyou will never have a well-made Midna amiibo
>>320694129
WiiU Animal Crossing or Mario Party?
>>320693529
>Resetti, Kapp'n, Tortimer, and Blathers not part of wave 1.
>Both Cyrus and Reese exist while K.K. is also locked to their bundle because they know almost no one wants them.
>Mabel but not Sable or Labelle in a two or three pack
>The chick from HHD exists
>Isabelle and Digby locked to buying the Wii U game.
>Amiibo Cards already came out for their line.
I can see why.
Well gee, considering 90% of the time amiibo only give a costume or some other cosmetic item in a one-off use, no wonder people are collecting them and not using them on games, you bumblefuck.
>>320689960
One problem. Not all amiibo could be used(Pokemon, 3rd parties). This wasn't really thought out as well as it should.
>>320694230
All of them.
>>320692147
>>don't want xxxxx to think that I'm a xxxxx
you will really have hard time if you limited yourself based on people preception, when people hate you they will search your weakness anyway, so better open yourself early.
>>320694129
>Using Toad
>>320694230
Wii U Animal Crossing but Mario Party 10 to a lesser extent as well.
The price of Wii U AC has been steadily dropping on Amazon since yesterday. 41% off and still going down.
>>320690664
Breh, he says exactly how the current Amiibo model isn't getting them money and you still insist he should be happy he's getting less money.
>>320694164
Doesn't the Wolf Link Amiibo come with a Midna? Is that not good enough?
>>320693320
Really want the Game and Watch amiibo but it's only sold in a 3-pack along with Duck Hunt and ROB, two characters I couldn't give half a shit about
>>320689960
The problem is that unlocking actual content with Amiibo is even worse.
An entire fucking gamemode is locked behind Amiibo in Mario party 10.
>>320694419
At least with AC you'd got all those amiibo cards for the villagers
With Mario Party it's to play a fucking bogged down actual Mario Party
>>320689448
If they weren't so rare and expensive to begin with, maybe they wouldn't be the new Beanie Babies...you can't expect something to have a huge install base for all your games when you make less Amiibos for your games than you make copies of said game.
In short, just shit out tons more of these things or stop being retarded and just have traditional DLC...why does Nintendo have to be so fucking hipster about everything and always go against the grain of the rest of the industry?
Next Mario should give you past power ups even if they break the game, like the cape in smb3 advance. In fact thats how it should be, not cosmetic shit like costumes or entire game modes. The Zelda amiibos should just give you past Zelda items for Zelda U, or Kirby amiibos give you past powers. Amiibo are always gonna be shelf sitters if they only do one time costume shit.
>>320694513
Just import it. It's $12 on Amazon and you can probably find it cheaper elsewhere.
>>320693320
Preordered Shovel Knight today. Waiting on Isabelle and Digby to get single releases like Chibi-Robo got.
>only Smash amiibo left is Dedede
The fat bastard eludes me and importing him is too pricey.
Make a skylanders/infinity type game where you can play as your amiibos and interact with them in Nintendo worlds
Call itSubspace Emissary Pt IIwii u saved
>>320689448
>And so we haven't really established them as an enhancement for all of our software at this point.
You mean they planned to make EVERYTHING be like MP10? Thank God for toy collectors chipping at that idea.
They should do a Skylanders/Infinity type game. I would buy that.
>>320694506
No, I want an actual Midna
This could bode well for the Amiibo stuff if he realizes that it was a combination of Nintendo's poor distribution and lack of good usage in games that is the cause of people not using them how Nintendo wanted.
He's the "new" boss, so maybe he wasn't fully in on how it all was being handled until now.
There's literally no way for a toy to enhance a game.
There is nothing a game can't do without a toy, at least if the toys are going to remain shapes of characters
I'm literally just six Amiibo away from being done with all of this bullshit.That, until the DLC Characters Amiibo come out.
>>320692203
I understand what he's saying, I just don't like it.
The last thing I want is even more content being locked behind toys, which is what would be required to make them more useful, and thus an "interactive item with software"
Just let the toys be toys and the games be games. If people have demonstrated they don't give a shit about unlocking content with toys then stop trying to force it and just focus on making games worth buying by themselves.
>>320694991
>Implying the Ride ever ends
Get ready for Silver Gold Retro Pixel Art Mario coming to a store near you
>>320694723
>You mean they planned to make EVERYTHING be like MP10?
Yes. It was so damn obvious this was their goal from the beginning when they announced software interaction, but you people told us we were conspiracy nutjobs for thinking based Nintendo would attempt such a thing.
>>320689448
Nintendo should have expected this. When your fanbase is like 50% manchildren and autists like mariotehplumber, plus that artificial scarcity bullshit they pulled last year attracting scalpers, it's no wonder people are just buying the toys and ignoring the software.
>>320694991
>Thought I was done
>Cloud coming out
>FCROB coming stateside
>>320695208
>mariotehplumber
What even happened to that asshoke? He said he would buy hundreds of all the female Smash characters, but he only did so with Rosalina.
This is literally
>waahhh I'm successful for the wrong reasons
>>320689448
>BAW, STOP USING OUR STUFF THE WRONG WAY!
Nintendo stop it. I bought it. I can use it however I want.
Who actually doesn't use their Amiibos? I've only opened one of my four Amiibos and used it on Mario Kart 8.
>>320695393
>waahhh I'm successful for the wrong reasons
So like Jhonen Vasquez?
>>320689448
>Biggest game use yet is to fight buffed up level 9 cpu's in one of the worsts smash games to date
No shit people aren't using them. I buy them and I don't even like Tr4sh.
>>320692203
What he's complaining about is irrelevant because his goals and methods of reaching them are ass-backwards.
>>320695415
>Amiibos
I just have them sitting on my desk. I cannot be arsed to singlehandedly train each and every one on Smash.
And since I don't any other game where they'd do anything, they're literally just collecting dust.
>>320695341
He probably killed himself because nintendo just announced not one, but TWO sexy anime characters. At least, according to him and his autism.
>>320692104
They're already doing DLC and locked content behind Amiibos.
No reason to half ass this shit.
>>320695640
>Corrin
>Cloud
>sexy
>>320695412
They're trying to move software, and the toys were meant to be sn incentive, or something. Honestly, he should just shut up and thank the nine divine that amiibos were such a phenomenal success.
He's complaining about scalpers profiting from their product thanks to the autists that willingly waste 100+ dollars on a single figurine on ebay.
Well no shit, casual buyers can't find the fucking things, how about increasing the stock instead of pulling more characters out of your ass.
Am I the only one who hasn't bought one of these fag items yet?
I stuck with nintendo for a long time, yet i'm not gonna buy this bait, I may like nintendo products but i'm not a retard to fall for this shit.
How about you release good games and a stronger console/handheld hybrid instead?
>>320695886
Well every time I step into a walmart or gamestop these days I'm nearly tripping over them so yeah the re-stock worked.
Is co-op in Shovel Knight locked behind the amiibo or is it just the ability to play with the custom knight?
>>320695886
I wonder why you Americans get shafted with Amiibos. You can practically get every single Amiibo easily in Australia.
>>320695792
Bayonetta and femCorrin. He literally bought up like 30 Rosalinas to keep other people from getting them. He doesn't like sexy characters.
>>320696059
Probably because NoA is one of the most incompetent groups of people in this whole industry.
>>320689749
There aren't any action figures that cost $50.
Figmas aren't action figures.
And Amiibos aren't action figures either
>>320696052
All of co-op.
>>320696059
Same reason NoA is all about the memes. Nintendo won't step in and get them to straighten the fuck up.
>>320696059
According to Nintendo, the US was getting the most amiibo and most amiibo were still hard to find.
It's been pretty fine since the retro trio were released here though.
>>320689448
>only release a limited amount at one time
>releasing them only in waves, never to be released again
>charging upwards of 30 dollarydoos for a single one, even more for packs with multiple in them
>wonder why people are hoarding them as collectors item instead of using them for their actual purpose
it's simple fucking economics at this point. I understand the push behind smaller releases initially, since they weren't sure how well they would have been received. But at this point they've been going for at least a year now, if not longer, so they surely can afford to cut this limited release shit and still come out ahead.
If you want people to actually use them as intended, you need to make sure that
>A) they're priced effectively. They shouldn't cost almost as much as a brand new game themselves.
>B) the supply exceeds the demand. The quickest way to make an item worthless is to flood the market with them. Release enough Amiibos so that people buying in bulk won't corner the market, and you'll have more people with immediate access to them and willing to actually use them.
You aren't going to completely stop the collection autism in gaming, but so Nintendo has done literally everything in their power to make sure that the amiibo market caters exclusively to collectors while shafting the players.
>>320695880
That's they own fault to be quite frank. They really had no business making any of the Amiibos short print if they werent going for a mystery bag form of model.
>>320692147
you're even more of a retarded manbaby for even caring what they fucking think
>>320690809
>Him
>>320694518
Solution
Make a game that doesn't require you to own every single figure to enjoy.
Disney Infinity and Skylanders have modes where you can enjoy a good chunk of what the gameplay with just the base figures.
>>320695640
Yep, he's at it again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3zODouXRPc
>hentai
>>320696351
When did Nintendo ever sell any single amiibo for $30 or more besides the giant yarn Yoshi?
>>320696351
>charging upwards of 30 dollarydoos for a single one
There's not a single amiibo that was priced anything like this. They've all been $14, except the ones in bundles which end up being priced for lower when you divide the cost of the bundle. Scalpers and 3rd parties might sell it for that much, but that's not the MSRP.
>never to be released again
Just plain wrong. Some amiibo might have limited runs, but a number of amiibo have been manufactured and shipped out numerous times. Villager alone has had 3 different prints.
>>320696517
>hentai movement
What the fuck
>>320689960
I know using the Link Amiibo in Hyrule Warriors gets you a new weapon, but has any one confirmed that you can unlock it without the Amiibo?
>>320696517
>has autism
>profile picture is Sonic
I swear to christ
>>320696453
They'd probaby release it for free and then make it so people have to buy $120 worth of amiibo to fully enjoy the game or slowly grind over the course of a year to unlock everything. The Pokemon Picross approach.
>>320696196
Putting it mildly.
Remember the HD cable fiasco with the Game Cube?
And now, we see NoA advertise (and meme)-up a game up the ass, censor the shit out of it, and release it digitally-only (where everywhere else got it on disc). THEN they release another game with 0 fucks given, 0 review copies, in an absurdly limited stock (I've heard as low as 1000 copies), and bury the digital version under several layers in the digi-store...but even with the same rating it's uncensored because it's all blood & violence (and one chick cumming while trying to kill the player in a boss fight).
Seriously. What the fuck?
>>320689749
>decent looking
>action figures
>>320689448
That's like complaining about people displaying action figures on their desk as opposed to plaything with them.
>>320695589
>his goals and methods of reaching them are ass-backwards.
oh yes his years of experience are backwards when you have what.... 0 experience in the field?
>>320696453
>Disney Infinity and Skylanders have modes where you can enjoy a good chunk of what the gameplay with just the base figures.
The problem is that the Toy Box is filled with horrendously bad levels considered "Disney Picks", lots of stuff is locked unless you own the playsets, and the Toy Box games in 2.0 are horrible repetitive. I'm farming for items in the Brave one right now to finish off the item list and it's so soul draining.
Now, I can't speak for Toybox Takeover or Speedway, but play sets only last about 4 to 6 hours, are incredibly barebones, easy, only let you use a small handful of characters, and cost $35.
>>320696684
You can't, Spinner is Amiibo only and it's one of Link's best weapons outside of the Master Sword.
>>320696517
Not going to listen to an insane ass pained faggot ramble on, but is he planning on mass buying again?
>>320696767
when are we getting more of her qt sister
>>320696684
You can't. Also, the Spinner was released alongside the Twilight Princess DLC pack, which caused people to speculate they just stripped from it so they could sell more Amiibos.
>>320696517
Well, he's not wrong about the reveal. Literally everyone was wanting Sakurai to get to the actual reveal.
>>320689448
>Physical DLC
Has there been any worse idea in the past 10 years? Nintendo is such a missmanaged shit company.
>>320696517
>hentai-legged bitch
What
>>320696517
>Rosalina is the queen of the hentai movement!
>look at ZSSlut boob!
Where is he going to go once his parents die?
>>320696517
>complain about ninty liking sexy characters
>buy all their merch thus ensuring they make more sexy characters
>>320696805
He'll do it, if he has the cash. He's that autistic.
>>320696761
>1000 copies
http://mynintendonews.com/2015/12/13/destructoid-gamestop-only-had-420-copies-of-devils-third/
Gamestop got less than half of that.
Really NoA fucks up so hard it seems like they're actively trying to sabotage Nintendo as a whole.
>make them in such limited supply
>wonder why people are buying them only for collecting purposes
Gee, I fucking wonder.
>>320696943
Post a good company right now.You can't
>>320696943
>dlc that can be shared
it's glorious, stay mad NEET
>>320696517
This guy is like Chrischan, but with "sexy hentai girls"
>>320696778
The Nintendo corporation can stand on its own merits anon, it doesn't need you defending it, I can assure you.Or maybe it can't, time will tell.
>>320696517
>this guy has "autism" and gets money for it and wastes it all on hundreds of the same fucking amiibo
>meanwhile I've been denied autismbux 5 times even with actual diagnosed autism
Someone just fucking kill me
>tfw NoJ will never actually make NoA do their fucking jobs
>>320696761
>>320697067
>two botched launches in a row
>can't market for shit despite having a professional background in that very fucking thing
Why does Reggie still have his fucking job, I swear he must have dirt on somebody.
>>320696517
>Corrin's swords look like dildos
>Rosalina is apparently the queen of hentai with her mouth open for dick
>Zero Suit Slut has an eye on her boob so we stare at them
>Bayonetta has hentai legs?
>Pauletena and Bayonetta ass
His autism knows no bounds.
>>320697067
>420 copies for an entire country
I refuse to believe anyone is actually that incompetent. That's fucking sabotage.
I think we all know the real reason he's so goddamn mad.
>>320695598
Yep....
>>320697427
He marketed Pizza. For fucking Dominoes. He doesn't know what he's doing.
>>320697674
I hope that guy knows one of those is a dude.
>>320698031
Yes, and?
>>320696351
Its genious tough, first time i think DLC can actually run out. DLC you have to preorder or else you cannot get it.
>>320697674
>no squidkid
>>320698031
I didn't know Peach was a guy
>>320698092
As long as he knows.
>>320696453
>with just the base figures
Fuck you. I won't buy a figurine just to play a game I already bought.
>>320689448
You'd think the nigger would see that and refocus direction, since clearly they're filling a demand with the things that they weren't before. If they were blind enough to not know the demand was there before, obviously they're aware of it now.
Would it be so weird for a company that started from making playing cards, to start putting more into merchandising?
>>320689448
>collection item at this point, rather than, say, as an interactive item with software.
Nintendo has nobody but themselves to blame for that.
Amibos as gaming peripherals are borderline useless.
Does the amiibo only work on one game? Maybe it should have different features too, like one amiibo could also unlock alternate costumes to OTHER amiibos and itself. Also, if it works on other games too if not already.
>>320691205
Obviously they want you to buy one for each game.
nintendo is shit desu senpai
>>320698809
They usually work with multiple games, but mostly only unlock one thing in each game related to that specific character. A few characters sometimes overlap in what the unlock like all versions of Mario and Dr. Mario unlock the same Mario costume or Link and Toon Link both being able to unlock the spinner in Hyrule Warriors.
>>320689448
If they don't want Amiibo to be collectors items, there's one simple thing they can do.
Flood the market. It will reduce the value of the figures if one can find them anywhere they look. Stop partnering with retailers for exclusive selling rights.
>>320689448
>Pokemon Amiibo
>>320699419
They're starting to flood the market and retailer exclusives tend to make it even easier to get a certain amiibo now. Exclusivity was shitty when stores would only get about 10 of the amiibo, but now each store gets like 100 and there's thousands more available online for days or weeks.
>>320699574
gotta..catch em'...all~...
>>320689448
>Its the consumers fault that theres no other use to them
>>320690549
Because they're heavily marketed. They're heavily marketed because Nintendo believed they to be an integral part to their software.
>>320689448
Amiibos are garbage anyway.
>collector toys
>mass produced
These fucking things could go out of fashion tomorrow, and they will, as such is the nature of fads.
>>320689448
But seriously though, there's maybe 3 good games where it's integrated well. YWW in particular was great, and HW was pretty non intrusive, for examples
Most others were superfluous as fuck
>>320697106
I was going to say Atlus, but they've been chugging the DLC and spin off koolaid pretty hard the last 5 years
T2L fag here.
>Disney Infinity 3.0
>beloved Star Wars and Disney characters
>they level up
>gameplay is alright
>boss fights at least zelda tier in terms of mechanical complexity
>combos
>air combos
>you cant just max their level you have you actually decide how yo uwant to build them as characters
>they have multiple star wars and Inside out expansions, all of which add 5-8 hours of gameplay, story and fun
>its all pretty decent too
Amiibos
>Beloved Nintendo characters
>uhhhh, you get a bot...in smash bros! you can beat it up and it will learn sort of
>you can level them up, it doesnt do much of anything~
>you can...unlock some costumes here!
>buy our horrible game codename steam and use the rarest amiibos we have to spawn fire emblem characters in FOR THAT ONE MISSION ONLY AND THEY DONT LEVEL UP OR STAY IN THE PARTY
>more costumes
>you can unlock 3d collectibles
>you can play as a 2D 8-bit sprite in Mario maker, how fun it doesnt get old instantly, I swear
>finally, an amiibo centric game
>it's like a shitty board game where you need to buy endless amounts of amiibos for no reasonand its boring and it suuuucks!
Look the Amiibos need their own skylanders game. Imagine platforming with Link and Mario
or fucking exploring a dungeon with Wario and Waluigi. For fuck's sake, Disney infinity even has a Diablo style loot grabbing expansion with online co-op and Amiibos have NOOOOTHING AFTER A YEAR with NOOOOTHING on the horizon wow where can I sign up to play with these stupid toys?
Maybe people would use them as an "interactive item with software" if they weren't just cosmetic skins and CPU opponents.
Oh yeah, and levels you've already played but with a different weapon.
Only Codename STEAM did something a little bit interesting with them and that game sold like shit.
>>320689718
Because they won't sell in the medium and long term as collector's toys. Nintendo already has brand issues, and the amiibo were supposed to modernize Nintendo, not solidify its status as a relic.
Of course, they only have themselves to blame when they make CRAP like MP10 and amiibo Festival where you have to tap them every 5 fucking seconds.
>>320700954
>tap them every 5 seconds
This shit pisses me off, and I don't even have those games. It should have just been tap to register it to the system and then only have to tap again if you want to transfer that data to another system or game.
>>320689448
Maybe make them functional in some fucking games, then?
>>320700145
>and HW was pretty non intrusive,
How was locking an entire weapon non intrusive?
>>320690046
The problem with that is that there are already a shit ton of amiibo, since their current function doesn't have the scope of a DI style game. Imagine if DI launched with around 100 characters.
But yeah, if such a game were to exist, it should be a launch title for the NX. Now THAT would move systems.
why haven't they made a wii u monopoly game where the piece you play as is the amiibo you scan for that round
>>320702218
What is AC: Amiibo Festival?
>>320690549
A large amount of characters had little to no merchandise before their amiibo. I remember back when the pre-release hype train for Sm4sh was still going, I preordered Marth because holy shit an actual Marth statue.
Hell, I preordered Zip Lash mostly for an actual piece of Chibi Robo merch.
>Incentive to buy software
>One amiibo can only hold data for one game at a time
Yeah I bet you want me to buy multiple amiibos fucking filthy jew.
So why don't they let the player use amiibo to co-op classic, all star, and event mode in Wii U Smash?
>>320689448
Maybe they should make a central game around amiibos than giving them bullshit uses in video games then.
Even as a collector of amiibos, their usage is kind of retarded. Bonus costumes in MK8 and such is kind of nice, but they're a little expensive for that.
They REALLY needed a Nintendo crossover game in the vein of Skylanders or Disney Infinity for this shit. The Wonderful 101 was kind of a missed opportunity for that, although it was one of my favorite games of all time anyway and I'm glad we got that game in its final form.
But they still should've gotten SOMEBODY to make some kind of action-adventure platformer in that vein.
I really, really hope the NX will be compatible with amiibos and they make that sort of game for the system.
Yeah no shit, they're especially encouraging it since they completely undership everything.
>>320700453
This post entirely.
Just give us that Nintendo, people would fucking play the hell out of it.
>>320689448
Wait wait, but Nintendo chose to intentionally create a drought of these things, but having extremely limited supplies shipped to retailers to up demand. What the fuck do they mean "We didn't want this." This is exactly what they created.
>sell amiibo's.
>make a skylander/infinity like game with nintendo characters(like subspace mode in brawl).
>Keep the cosmetic extras in other games.
How retarded is nintendo at this point?
>>320702037
The way that any Amiibo can be scanned for ruppee bonuses
>>320700453
>Supporting fucking physical DLC
>>320702182
They could always just work with the base Smash ones and then slowly expand to more characters with updates. Amiibo cards would be some sort of Power Disk-esque option, but how to differentiate would be the tough part. It would still mean like 30+ characters at launch, but it could slowly build up to around 70 or so.
>have a game called Amiibo Festival
>doesn't work with all amiibos
That's the one title you should have made sure worked with every damn amiibo that is out and will come out, for how lazy the core game is.
Look at that motherfucker's face. Does it look like he's ever happy for anything?
>>320703170
>makes amiibo cards
>can't be used interchangeably with amiibo figures
>>320689448
"waaaaah we wanted our bullshit skylanders clone cancer to be physical DLC but they're beanie babies instead"
Well that's because Nintendo is releasing them like they're collectibles: releasing a limited quantity, retail exclusive Amiibos, and failing to restock on certain a lot of Amiibos, resulting in the same ones staying on shelves, and the 'rare' ones getting taken off shelves as soon as they arrive.
>>320696059
I think there was a dockworker strike that temporarily choked supply.
>>320700453
>Codename STEAM
>horrible
>>320703146
Dude, we're talking 58 characters at launch if they ONLY use the Smash roster.
That's a lot of dev time to make them at least as different as DI characters are from one another.
>>320703982
Keep in mind DI1.0 just had the bare minimum for each character to mess around with. They didn't even have special or skill points at that point. Like I said, they could also only do the base Smash characters and eventually patch in support for the DLC ones.
Now, with this entire situation I'm assuming a F2P that gets constant updates rather than something you pay for yearly.
>I am happy that amiibo has sold well
>But we want to show to people the purpose of owning one other than collecting them by improving upon it.
Why are you guys so mad about this? He is clearly saying something beneficial.
>>320704774
/v/ gets triggered by amiibo.
>>320704774
Maybe he shouldn't undership amiboos and upgrade the the shitty one game data slot you dumb fucking shill
>This retard wants you to buy multiple amiboos that are the same
>>320696823
Season 2so neverOr just read the manga/webcomic
>>320704774
Because I don't want to buy a shitty figure to unlock shit in a game
I don't want to pay real money to unlock shit already on the fucking disc
I thought we've been having this argument since fucking horse armor but idiots like you keep on dumping their wallets out for this garbage.
>>320704774
hey cebruz why havent you killed yourself yet
>>320700954
>tap them every 5 fucking seconds
Is it seriously THAT bad with MP10 and amiibo Festival?
Are Nintendo out of their minds?
Personally only got a single amiibo from an LE and rarely use it.
>people still saying amiibo are undershipped
Update your shitpost checklists. amiibo are actually getting shipped to meet demand. They even went back and manufactured a shit ton of amiibo that were notoriously undershipped.
>>320689448
while in theory making buying one item as DLC to work in multiple games and also be a collectable it doesn't really work. you have people who just want the DLC but have to pay for the cost of the figure. DLC becomes just cosmetics mostly due to the amount of amiiibo that exist.
>>320698239
not a pedo
>>320705868
That and not every game supports every Amiibo. At best they'll have some generic benefit for tapping amiibos they don't have specific content for, if there's anything at all. Like when the fuck is a Duck Hunt Amiibo going to get any use outside of Smash and Mario Maker?
>>320705643
You use them for every single turn in amiibo Festival.
>>320705382
Cebruz is the guy that made Tomoko posting intolerable, right?
>>320689749
>decent looking
you can get figures for twice the price of an amiibo that look infinitely better and have movable parts aswell.
>>320689448
So he is going to open the floodgates and go full DLC with the amiibos, exactly the thing Iwata tried to prevent?
>>320689718
>As long as they are selling, why does he give a fuck?
Because Nintendo isn't a soulless cuntcompany like EA and actually care
>>320697106
XSEED and Vanillaware.
Amiibos are soon the be the biggest scam in gaming history
>>320708928
No since that would probably just reduce software sales, they wanted Amiibo to raise more interest in the franchises. Which is why Kimishima isn't as happy as he could be.
I wish they'd do the opposite.
Make amiibo a line of figures that coincidentally offers small bonuses if you have a particular game. Nothing you can't get without the amiibo, though. Like in SMM.
Or make it so you can unlock a 5$ DLC by scanning the 13$ amiibo.
>>320689448
>release amiibo
>main use is adding irrelevant garbage like character skins and stuff you can unlock ingame anyway
>be surprised autists only buy it for collecting
Literally what was Nintendo expecting lmao
>WOW FAGGOT CONSUMERS PURCHASE MY PRODUCT CORRECTLY
fuck off idiot
>>320689448
If nintendo wants to boost software sales why don't they just start making video games again instead of only mario spin offs?
>>320689448
I dont like this guy he looks like a mafia boss.
>>320695281
>George's place drops to 4th after the freeze
Gets me every time.
>>320707383
Yes
michlan is his second name, probably his "non-shitposting" name
>>320696428
>>320694378
come on every "normie" ( i hate that word) would instantly think that oyu are a degenerate if you have half-naked anime girls sitting on your shelf
>>320709761
Y-yeh, looks like
Well, it would fucking help if you didn't have to erase the god damn things to use store data in them from multiple games.
They were marketed as personalized little gaming buddies that took on the avatar of your favorite characters. They should have made the games interact in a little more of a meaningful way if they wanted this to be the case, and I don't really mean more features hidden behind amiibo paywall.
If I scan my amiibo in Smash, it should tag the figure with a flag indicating it was used in Smash before. Then when I scan it in Wooly World, the game should read my amiibo's game data and maybe read that I used a pink Capton Falcon in Smash, so give me a pink version of the amiibo skin.
Later down the line, there could be a game that sees my Captain Falcon was used in Wooly World and maybe incorporate that somehow as well. It doesn't have to be big stuff, just just actually making the figure seem personal and customizable (like it was originally advertised to be) would honestly provide a lot of incentive to actually pop the damn things into the game for something. As of right now, I don't feel like doing anything with them because I know that I may have to erase their data in the future. I bought them primarily as figures anyway.
>>320689960
They had a shot to do this with Amiibo Party. It should have been a huge amiibo crossover game centered around the AC universe if they really wanted. It should have been a budget title of maybe $20 MOST and alloyed you to use pretty much any amiibo in it. It wouldn't make the game more fun, but it would certainly attract more people to get it just for the novelty.
I mean, in essence it'd still be skins, but I honestly don't want them to do shit like they did with the Shovel Knight game where actual good content is hidden behind the plastic paywall.
>>320689718
You would care too if you ever owned a business.
People might use amiibos as a gameplay enhancement if they actually did anything of note.
But then, if they did anything of note, they'd be even worse than DLC since they'd only be available in limited numbers and probably flatout unobtainable in certain parts of the country/world at large without importing from elsewhere.
It's a catch-22 and really becoming a collectable was the best thing that could happen to that shit.
Can they just make a console without any bullshit? Can it just be a system, a controller, and some games?
No dumb robots that only play two games, no wagglin' remotes, no gloves, no plastic toys. Just make a fucking normal console with good games. No stupid gimmicks.
Why is this too much to ask?
>>320689448
I can see why people would be confused at this reaction, and also why he's concerned.
Generally speaking, he should embrace the idea of them as collectibles for the money involved, but keep on plugging at the software enhancement aspect.
>>320708628
>twice the price
Well there you go. Amiibos do decently well because of the price point, it's not too high to dissuade the majority
>>320717021
Nintendo likes to "innovate".
>>320717021
They did, it was called the GameCube.
It sold really poorly and has a miserable library of nothing but Nintendo games.
>>320713719
I don't think Nintendo would trust ND Cube to do their big Amiibo crossover game. It would be like having Arzest do a proper Mario game instead of the newer Yoshi's Island games.
>>320717021
>No dumb robots that only play two games, no wagglin' remotes, no gloves, no plastic toys. Just make a fucking normal console with good games. No stupid gimmicks.
That is the Wii U. The Wii U is no Wii. It just has a Wii inside of it.
>>320719537
Tablet you stupid fucking nigger. Every game but Tropical Freeze has some pointless gimmick shoved in.
>try to cash in on the skylander/infinity pie
>surprised when they don't implment it in their games properly and risk losing business
>suprised when spergs and "OH EM GEE I LUV ZELDA IM SUCH A NUUURD" buys them with out buying games or consoles.
It surprises me that some people in charge are so unaware. All nintendo has to do is make good games but they keep trying to juggle like 10 different things and it all falls flat.
>>320717021
Because the gamecube bombed, and nobody appreciated its games til 10 uears later
>>320689448
>because they dont do shit. i mean seriously, whgat can u do with them? unlock costumes in mario maker and in splatoon with the squids. that's it
>you can use as an AI in smash
most retarded idea ever
>you can use it as AI in ultra smash
see above
seriously, i OWN a wiiu and a bunch of games and i have a total of 9 amiibos, i never even used them. even for me, they are literally just collectible figures
>>320719798
>Tablet you stupid fucking nigger. Every game but Tropical Freeze has some pointless gimmick shoved in.
>The DS4 you stupid fucking nigger. Every game has some pointless gimmick shoved in.
It's the fucking controller. There's no waggle bullshit or anything silly. And in the vast majority of cases it's completely optional.
And gyro controls are pretty damn awesome. Do you write off analog sticks as "gimmicks" because of not being d-pads?
>>320720497
Does the PS4 have a Pro Controller that removes all of the extra features while also being more responsive and more comfortable? Because I find myself using that whenever possible when playing Aii U.
Also
>b-b-b-b-but Sony!!!!
>>320720767
So selling better controllers makes the regular controller a "gimmick"?
Is my keyboard a gimmick because there are better keyboards around?
Amiibo was a mistake by itself
>>320689448
You made the amiibo's capabillities limited as fuck.So what do you expect, you prehistoric fuckwad?
Leave them the way they are. I don't want actual important game content locked behind figures I don't want to buy
Just buy the Busou Shinki license from Konami and port Battle Masters or Battle Rondo to the 3DS or something..
