I like how it automatically updates my drivers and settings. I've noticed huge performance boosts after geforce updates.
Do AMD cards have similar features.?
>>320661775
AMD Gaming Evvolved
>>320661775
I haven't updated my GeForce Experience or drivers since I heard that Nvidia will start forcing users to create a profile and tie driver downloads to your email account
It has Gaming Evolved and was changed a lot during the last update. I like how you can use it to set custom overclocks for each game you play.
>>320662142
Why is that a problem?
>>320662487
Why would they want my email address to provide drivers? They aren't even offering anything new. They've been doing fine without my email for 10 years why do they need it suddenly?
>>320662478
isn't overclocking bad?
i heard it shouldn't be done for long periods of time
>>320662487
It forces you to use geforce experience, which can play havoc with cpu resources bouncing back and forth between 0-25%.
>implying automatic updates are a good thing
>>320661775
Does AMD have something like the share feature of geforce yet?
>>320661775
You do realise this is a gathering info program that just updates your drivers automaticaly you lazy faggot?
>>320662557
...what are you afraid of? Like...why do you care? That sounds like a pretty stupid reason.
>>320662620
Ok, that's understandable.
>>320662625
I think Op set his options to automatic.
I still have to check manually for new updates.
¯\(°_o)/¯
>>320662630
Whats that?
Gaming evolved has its own broadcasting part if that's what you are asking.
>>320662724
Why can't you just download them from the site any more? I'd rather do that than install their shitty geforce experience garbage.
>>320662719
I care because as mentioned above GeForce experience causes some issues. I had a problem where Witcher 3 would just hard crash my computer because of GeForce experience. I uninstalled it and Witcher 3 suddenly worked fine.
If I wanted to do that now I couldn't. You must have GeForce Experience installed if you want nvidia drivers.
>>320662817
You still can.
I just do it through the GE Experience thing when I don't feel like opening up my web browser.
>>320661775
I think they just released something like this. I saw someone post a picture of a window with a bunch of tabs similar to geforce experience.
>>320662719
Nvidia is second only to intel for jewry - you really think its going to stop at email addresses? They could easily monetise it. Want the latest drivers? Subscribe to them - if you don't wait for the quarterly free drivers.
>>320662591
>isn't overclocking bad?
Not at all, i always have my computer overclocked.
You just have to run enough stress tests to make sure it's not going to overheat or cause the system to crash. It's actually incredibly difficult to cause perminant damage to your GPU/ CPU by overclocking.
Why would you want automatic amd driver updates, you really want your pc to burn your house down while you're out?
also i have never used this program because going to nvidia's website and downloading drivers is easy enough
>>320662812
Share lets you stream your game to a friends web browser and allows them to take control of it and play.
>>320661775
Isn't that essentially spyware? I'm fairly certain it phones home to NVIDIA.
>>320662142
The email doesn't even need to be verified or ever required again. I just put [email protected] and it works fine
>>320662989
Hmm, i don't think it has.
>>320663001
It's so that nvidia can make their products better based on the people using them.
>>320662989
Why would you ever want to do that?
>>320661775
Geforce Experience is spyware and bloatware. They collect your software info and hardware information to send back to Nvidia and the program is pretty much useless unless you use Shadowplay (you're forced to have Geforce Experience to use that feature).
>>320663141
>Shit my AMD garbage can't do that, lets pretend features are bad
>>320663148
nice sources
>>320663148
>They collect your software info and hardware information
Are you on windows right now?
Uh oh, they do that too.
So does Steam.
And GOG Galaxy.
It's called compatibility improvement, dumbass.
>>320663204
Read the terms of service of their program or use a packet sniffer or check resource monitor if you use Windows.
>Using memenux
>To install the proprietary drivers I have to shut down the graphics interface of the OS and run a shell script that nvidia provides via terminal
An experience alright.
>>320663139
>It's so that nvidia can make their products better based on the people using them.
>>320663189
>implying I have amd
It was a serious question. Why do that ever?
>>320663141
Let a friend try the game?
Show you something you're unaware of?
You know, social interaction. Used to be a common thing, PS4 has this feature as well I think.
>>320663291
Steam's hardware survey is optional faggot.
>>320663148
Lots of software phones home and provides debug and basic non-identifiable usage statistics in order to better develop and market products. I personally don't use it, but I don't think there's anything wrong with what they're doing.
>all these peoplescared of muh intrusion
>as if any of you do anything worth hiding
Nobody cares about your anime loli fur porn or your pirated games you paranoid shits.
>>320663375
>Let a friend try the game?
>Show you something you're unaware of?
>You know, social interaction.
I guess I am kinda old for this board but back in my day we would actually invite the person over to our home and have them play said game if they wanted to experience it.
You know physical social interaction.
>>320663291
Steam collects your hardware info for their hardware surveys, but they don't collect your system processes.
>>320663148
I don't recall giving them my email, been receiving updates just fine. Too lazy to navigate the site every now and then to check for updates. CPU usage is fairly low when geforce experience is in the icon tray.
I only use it for the update notifications and shadowplay.
>>320663514
>Nothing to hide meme
And then there's this retard.
>>320663291
>Uh oh, they do that too.
Windows 7 and 8 still give you the opportunity to opt out.
And for that very reason I'm not using Windows 10, I'm waiting for the EU court to declare it illegal. After getting rid of safe harbour it's only a matter of time.
>So does Steam.
Surveys are optional.
>And GOG Galaxy.
Which I don't use. I'm fine with the regular installers.
Also, the fact that you let one software spy on you occasionally doesn't mean that you should unquestioningly let just anyone do it. It's not a binary matter of making yourself completely naked or hiding all but it's something in-between: avoid being spied on as much as possible.
>>320663439
Geforce Experience collects user identifiable data, if you use an Nvidia account.
Soon driver update functionality will only be available if you use an Nvidia account.
Therefore GFE is spyware.
Nvidia will even limit the driver releases you can download from their website to 4 per year in order to force customers into installing GFE and getting an Nvidia account.
>>320663514
But they do, Anonymous.
The NSA and GCHQ store dirt on people who are political opponents or might be political opponents in the future.
>>320663520
>back in my day
Stop acting like your 22 year old ass is old. Not everyone lives in comfortable visit distance of their friends or can come over on w him, you fucking child., It's called growing up.
>>320661775
Their Catalyst/Crimson drivers always let you update your drivers from their control panel.
>Reroute all outgoing traffic to the botnet IPs to 127.0.0.1
>Crisis averted
Wow that was hard
>>320664023
Steam hardware surveys are optional, but they still collect tons of info you can't opt out of. They keep very detailed usage data.
>>320664101
>Soon driver update functionality will only be available if you use an Nvidia account.
Good to see you know nothing but are still spouting, AMD shill.
The account system is already active, and it's not required personal information. an email of [email protected] works
>>320664376
I'm 29 and own a vehicle. Picked up the habit of driving to different states just to hang out while in college. Only poor plebs can't afford a weekend in another state.
>>320664416
But the illuminati man, the fucking bilderbergers will get me and send me to the lizard people! I gotta buy AMd to avert the crisis and you should to. Buy today using promo code SAVE-THE-EARTH to save 10% on your enxt AMD GPU purchase
>>320662826
I downloaded mine from the website without geforce experience.
>>320661775
I use it for shadowplay. It doesn't automatically update anything unless you want it to
>>320664376
Not that guy but that's ridiculous man, unless you live in the countryside or something you should have some friends nearby regardless of your age, although this is /v/.
I live in the center of a city and don't bother with any internet communication or even calling people, people just drop by my apartment if they want to hang out.
Why the fuck do people use that Shadowplay bloatware when you can use Dxtory or any other recording program that supports the NVEC codec and never have to deal with Geforce Experience?
>>320664376
>you fucking child
>doesn't have friends living anywhere near him
>is socially incompetent retard
Oh the irony!
>>320664470
Just because you let Steam spy on you doesn't mean you should let anyone else do so too. Especially not something as basic as your GPU drivers.
Also, the Steam issue needs to be tackled too of course. Companies need to get it out of their heads that they had a right to data mine people. Luckily, courts are waking up and this sort of Jewry will be banned or severely restricted in the future, at least in the EU.
>>320665094
'Cuz /v/ is full of idiots. Reminds me I need to fuck around more with the VCE supporting branch of OBS.
>>320664479
You are not anonymous because you used a fake email, dipshit. Your hardware and software configuration is usually enough to uniquely identify you, but it's much simpler than that because they also know your IP address. All of this can be easily cross referenced with other usage data you create on the internet to build a complete profile on you and put a name and address to your profile.
Advertisers do this 24/7 but this data is also valuable to other businesses. How would you like if your health insurance company or a future employer found out you play games 8 hours a day?
How would you like whatever government gets elected in 2020 to have a complete list of people who played creepy anime simulator 2015?
Nvidia is in the business of selling hardware. Spying on their customers is disgusting.
The only problem I have with Geforce Experience is that if Shadowplay is enabled, it fucks with Skype and will cause it to crash during calls.
>>320663338
thanks for quoting the entire post. Couldnt tell what you were reacting to.
>>320665094
I've never used it but isn't shadowplay basically constantly recording so if you spot a funny glitch or get a lucky shot you can immediately make a video out of it?
I sometimes record gameplay with OBS if i know something stupid is going to happen but it's not like i have it running all the time, i kinda want shadowplay just for all the stupid shit i could have made into webms.
I'm also a fucking retard and can't get OBS to record in a decent quality, older games in particular have especially weird problems like entire 3d models missing from the recording.
>>320665414
You know what else fucks with Skype?remote procedure calls to spy on you and gain access to desktopcoincidence I think not.
>>320665414
Sounds like a feature to me.
>>320662695
Guess what no one cares
Go back to /g/ you retard
>>320663141
Local multiplayer games online
>>320666260
Not him, but I do.
Get the fuck out and kill yourself.
>>320666371
You are a minority
AMD Catalyst did regular update checks and give you the option to download the newest version.
Pretty sure Crimson does this, too.
>>320666092
it all makes sense now
>>320666445
There are at least two of us here, while you're alone.
>>320666531
Most of the people in this thread use it retard
>>320666594
How do you know when it's just you?
>>320666531
throwing my hat in with this
software should only do the shit it's supposed to, jesus christ what happened to people caring about their pcs.
People who buy Nvidia these days are either whales or no better than consolekids.
I'm not implying that AMD is any better, but Nvidia consumers are generally fucking retarded.
>>320666594
you're the only one shilling it, retard.
>>320666856
The 970 proved this to be true.
>literally gimped product
>superior product (the 390) is released
>people still buy the 970 because "it just werks" and for shitty free games packaged with it
this thread is cancer. fuck off nvidia pr team
>>320666856
The only reason I bought nvidia is that I had driver issues with my last AMD card in 2008.
>>320667153
but but but the drivers are better anon
and and and amd never updates driversexcept this has literally all changed with crimson
>>320667375
I thought crimson was blowing up people's cards.
>>320667357
Same.
Nvidia has much better software as well.
CCC was a pain in the ass to use, and eventually stopped opening all together, which was when I decided to switch teams.
>>320667506
hotfix to address that issue was released within 4 hours
>>320667506
nah, you're thinking of nvidia.
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/laptops/news/windows-10-is-killing-nvidia-graphics-cards-720443
http://modcrash.com/nvidia-display-driver-damaging-gpus/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/warning-nvidia-196-75-drivers-can-kill-your-graphics-card/
>>320662719
you sound like you work for nvidia
either that or you are an ignorant consumer. fuck u.
>>320662142
2.4.5.57 forever
fuck their autoupdater and that one version that caused insane memory leaks from that point onward
>>320667506
If you are in fact referring to the fan control issue,
this anon>>320667694
is correct
>>320667357
it's not 2008 anymore.
back then, people used to call Nvidia cards housefires but now they run cooler than AMD. AMD got their shit together with their drivers sometime ago too.
>>320664376
im sorry you dont have any real life friends anon
im sure youll go and talk to your internet friends later tonight :)
>>320667357
>I can't keep up with the last 7 years of technology: The Post
filthy causal
>>320661775
>bragging about this gay shit
AMD has it too and it sucks.
>>320668076
Please tell me about these amazing up to date driver comparisons.
The one I used is an unbiased one from 2013 by the Dolphin developers. I bet everything changed in 2 years, right?
>>320668231
>I bet everything changed in 2 years, right?
Well amd did just release new drivers written from scratch in the last month or so.
>>320668231
You mean Dolphin's OpenGL support which got abandoned sometime ago?
>>320668231
wew lad
>>320668439
OpenGL is all I use.
>>320667845
>it's not 2008 anymore.
I don't give a shit. You sell me a product that is a nightmare, I'm not taking my business back to you.
>>320668738
There's no reason to use OpenGL over DirectX unless you're running on Linux.
>>320668739
>You sell me a product that is a nightmare, I'm not taking my business back to you.
Kinda like the gimped 970?
>buy Nvidia card
>they intentionally slow down older gen cards with their driver updates
>buy AMD card
>they actually improve their perfomance over the years
>>320668921
>they intentionally slow down older gen cards with their driver updates
Why do people keep posting this after several tech sights have shown driver comparisons since 2008 disproving this?
>>320668973
>implying they didn't cuck the 700 series
>>320668921
The Way It Is Meant To Be Played™
>>320668884
i think there are a few games that run better with OGL
still what kind of retard doesn't just use whatever the optimal settings are
>>320668973
Yeah and what about Godrays and Gameworks?
>>320668884
I've got a list of reasons, some are technical, some are moral, some are monetary.
>>320669315
>I got a list
>doesn't list
Can I shitpost like you?
>>320668921
YOU CAN'T LIKE AMD ON THIS BOARD
ARE YOU CRAZY? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?
>>320669212
A few games do run better with OpenGL, but most games run better on DirectX since the backend is more fleshed out.
>>320669315
I'd like to hear them.
>>320669236
turn off features your card can't handle?
sure godrays and gameworks shit is pretty intensive but any maxwell series card has no problem
>>320669578
If by "no problem" you mean "half my framerate" sure.
>>320669689BTFO
>>320661775
gtfo shill
yes op
AMD is also developing their own version of Gameworks called OpenCL which takes further steps than nvidia ever did, or could, by making use to the Vulkan API to allow programmers, and even modders, to enhance game engines on the fly.
>>320669689
>it's nvidia's fault bethesda can't code for shit
notice how it's equally shit on amd and nvidia cards
>>320669541
>I'd like to hear them.
Why? It's boring and predictable.
Technically, I run linux except to play games that have no linux version, for which I dual boot botnet10. Also I code games. I also code some GLSL shaders for fun on sites like shadertoy and enjoy browsing the user submited ones.
Morally, I don't like proprietary standards for many reasons.
Monetarily, I refer to the videogame coding item and add 1+1 regarding potential markets.
>>320670138
but anon nvidia coded that and beth used their code
>>320670376
Anon but that's not how it works at all.
Nvidia might have given Bethesda full support by helping them with coding, but the code is still Bethesda's.
>>320670514
>but the code is still Bethesda's.
Not according to Nvidia which clearly states that Gameworks is their ™
>>320670605
This conversation just shows how /v/ thinks Nvidia can do no wrong. Like pulling well over 100w through a motherboard.
>>320670514
>Nvidia might have given Bethesda full support by helping them with coding, but the code is still Bethesda's.
Could you possibly be anymore retarded?
>>320670605
anon gameworks is pre-optimized middle-ware and it isn't even distributed in the form of source code.
>>320667357
My 5850 ran fine until I sold it. Got a 750ti to tide me over till next gen.
Maybe you should git gud?
>>320670746
>it isn't even distributed in the form of source code.
Exactly it's distributed as pre-packaged shit that the game devs like bethesda have no control over
>>320670904
They do have control over it. CDPR managed to optimize HairWorks, I don't see why Bethesda can't fucking optimize godrays. It's fucking godrays. There's no tesselation involved at all. STALKER did prettier God Rays 10 years ago
>>320670760
I have no clue what point you're trying to make.
Driver issues just means certain opengl or direct3D calls return glitchy results under certain conditions instead of the expected via specification, a non issue for 99% of popular games, so you may never see a problem if you don't run/code some particular stuff.
>>320671060
They can't optimize shit because Nvidia won't release source code. What is so hard to understand about this?
>>320671208
Then I guess CDPR stole it.
>>320671260
Or - more logically - CDPR bitched at Nvidia until Nvidia provided another binary blob with the features enabled CDPR wanted which was then rolled into the game.
>>320671364
So why can't Bethesda do the same? Bethesda are two times larger than CDPR.
>>320670723
and this is bad because...
>>320669847
they're developing OpenGPU or someshit like that. It's going to be open-source and released on github in january 2016.no one will use it
>>320669689
how the fuck does a 980ti get the same framerate as my 970 with the same settings
>>320671607
>no one will use it
just like how freesync wont become standard.
it's free and open source. of course people will use it.
>>320671621
how the fuck does a 970 get the same framerate as my gtx 210 with the same settings
>>320671260
That's simple. It's api vs sdk. Gameworks is sdk which unlike hairwork's api doesn't allow for optimization of the interface to improve performance.
>>320671607
>and this is bad because...
The official spec limit for pcie slots is only 75w.
>>320671798
Intel has put their support behind freesync and thus it WILL be the standard given how much larger intel is compared to AMD and Nvidia combined.
>>320669847
OpenCL is an open version of CUDA, and has already been out for years, it has little to do with Gameworks.
Just bought a 970 and I never overclocked before.
How much can I overclock it?
Watched a few videos of people saying that overclocking does not damage the card but it seems too good to be true.
>>320671980
He typed it wrong - what he meant to say was gpuopen.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-gpuopen-open-source-development,30750.html
>>320671960
>The official spec limit for pcie slots is only 75w.
So?
Literally who cares it's not nvidia's fault that pcie isn't good enough.
>>320672124
>So?
Are you retarded? Gee I wonder what could happen when I slam 150w through a component only rated for 75w.
>Literally who cares it's not nvidia's fault that pcie isn't good enough.
This is why psus and cards have external power connectors dipshit. protip: the thirstiest gpu ever built - the 295x2 - pulls even less than 75w through the pcie slot (see peg on this chart).
>>320672124
>it's not nvidia's fault that pcie isn't good enough
I wonder if plebs actually read this shit before posting. Could you possibly make a statement more retarded then "hurr durr pcie isn't good enough"
>>320672078
Pretty cool, although it's annoying that they have so much DX exclusive crap.
>>320666856
I like the low wattage consumption, that's really it.
For those of you who don't have GeForce Experience installed, how do you get the NVIDIA Control Panel to start at startup? It just disappears. Can't even minimize it to tray.
>>320661775
>Put game on optimal settings
>game barely reaches 60fps and usually hovers around 45~55fps sometimes dropping to under 30fps
What a fucking gyp. I know I shouldn't expect much out of a 960, but these settings they call optimal are never reliable.
>>320661775
The software is bloated as fuck and you can't really trim it down without it redownloading shit.
>>320672627
>hovers around 45~55fps sometimes dropping to under 30fps
that's perfectly fine since optimal framerate is 24
>>320672445
Now that its open source it will be ported to OpenGL quickly, and ultimately to Vulkan once its released.
>>320673430
I would hope so, but you never know. Then again I remember carmak ported some game to phones in two days because they had released the source and some random dude made an opengl version of it.
>>320661775
Thats an ad. D-d-don't be fooled guys.
Also for the record I haven't updated my nvidia drivers in months. The one that I'm on fucking works, every game I throw at it runs at a smooth 60fps and everytime I try to upgrade or use geforce experience or whatever something either breaks or my framerate goes down.
>>320675230
what version are you using?
>>320661775
The application, yes.
The software that the devs use, not yet.
>>320661775
>I've noticed huge performance boosts after geforce updates.
you are so full of shit
>>320675445
310.90
