>buy splatoon wiiu combo a couple weeks back
>just start playing some regular matches
>literally matched with level 50s with perfect gear every single game
>get annihilated
Does this game even have matchmaking or what?
Gear is not THAT important in the game. And there should be some matchmaking yeah. Been a while since I played,
it's based on win/loss ratio. So if you keep losing those lvl 50 dudes are shitters. It's still unfair though
>>320612686
Having 12 abilities vs 3 is a pretty big deal dude
I was like that too, but you soon begin to destroy. Only casuals need good gear and the best weapons.
>>320612547
It doesn't even have regional settings.
The lag is fucking awful.
>>320613149
Assuming you bother after a certain point, which I doubt many new players will
>>320612547
The matchmaking is godawful. Once you start doing ranked it gets better until around A, then it's shit again.
Honestly the first few months were the best time to be playing.
>>320612547
>>literally matched with level 50s with perfect gear every single gam
>The somehow lose to a level 5-12 team.
So I guess yesterday's patch didn't help at all? http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/14842/~/how-to-update-splatoon
>>320614023
haven't they been saying improved matchmaking in literally every patch?
>>320612547
would you rather wait 5 minutes to be grouped with people around your level, or play much faster. groups shuffle. next game they'll be on your side
>you will never touch their ears
>>320614723
>would you rather wait 5 minutes to be grouped with people around your level
Yes? Why would you want to constantly play blowouts all day instead of close games?
>muh impatience
>muh instant gratification
>matchmaking
>nintendo
Hilarious. Nigger they are still in the early 2000s of online multiplayer. You got a while.
>>320614996
>blowouts
if you're getting blown out 100% of the time against people of a higher level than you, you're just not a good player. cowaduty might be more your style. some people just aren't made to be squids
>>320615395
>mfw splatoon doesn't even have invites
>>320615402
>reading comprehension
Blowouts go both ways you flaming retard, and yes, the vast majority of the time a new player is going to lose to someone who has been playing the game for dozens of hours and has better gear. Cute that you think CoD is somehow more casual than Splatoon though
>>320615402
I don't think anyone is arguing that someone who just started playing the game is not a good player. Defending the garbage matchmaking in this game is fucking pathetic dude. The game could easily match <level 20 players together to at least attempt a somewhat fair game, but doesn't even bother. Unless the game is dead there's no excuse
>>320616070
playing against them also gives you the opportunity to obtain their gear. just saying
>>320616070
Don't you remember when before the game came out, the people calling out the lack of standard online features in a splatoon were labelled as shitposters
>>320612547
Regular as in Turf War? Yeah, it's kind of tradition to get off in Turf War after a terrible streak on ranked. You'll get to level 10 eventually without much problem and by then you'll already have some 3 star gear on you, plus you'll play with people on your rank. After a while gear won't make THAT much difference, though it has quite the significance, but your skill will be way more important.
From my experience level only matters when someone is below level 20, because it means that the player doesn't have access to all the weapons, and don't even pretend to say this game doesn't have some shitty weapons that are bad entirely, cause it does. I'm at level 45, rank A+, and even while I was working my way up, I could tell there were some shit weapons they expected me to use while waiting to get levels to get the better ones.
When's the next time Mahi Mahi resort is meant to come on rotation? Preferably in Tower Control or Rainmaker
>>320612547
I don't know. I just started playing, level 7 or 8, and I'm always the top scorer for my team, win or lose. I always wonder what my team is doing but then I remember it's a game for kids. Gear does not seem to matter except for a few people that snipe everyone else.
Maybe ranked is different?
>>320612547
>Nintendo
>online
What do you think?
>>320615402
This post gave me autism
>>320612547
Gear and level are irrelevant for the most part. What matters is experience.
>>320617187
Tentakek is perfectly viable throughout the game.
>>320616070
I just want regional matchmaking. If splatoon can't even manage that, then there's no way it's going to bother with hooking up people of a similar rank.
>>320612547
>literally matched with level 50s with perfect gear every single game
I never played Splatoon before but why are levels even involved? It's a shooter not an RPG.
>>320620256
>level 1 C- player
>tentatek splattershot
>level 50 S+ player
>tentatek splattershot
>>320618345
I hate that map
>>320620476
I love that map
>>320617187
There are only a handful of sub-tier weapons. None of which you are required to use.
>>320620441
It just gives access to buying different weapons. Starter weapons are perfectly viable, just less options. Also abilities aren't all that important, at least the ones that stack. Because the 2nd and 3rd slots on equipment give very small bonuses, and stacking the same ability has depreciating returns.
this is my main problem with this game, aside the lag.
it's impossible to have fun, you always get a match against krakons, eliters, dynamos and 96 decos and your team is shit.
some months ago I had great times, but now it's the same shit
>>320620441
Cause he is baiting, lvl don't any stats. You can be lvl 10 and beat a bunch of lvl 50 if you are good.
>>320615402
Posts like these are a good part of the reason why people say splatoon is the new mlp.
>>320620695
>and your team is shit
This. Goddammit this. Sick of my team getting slammed when I come in first place for the entire match.
Just give me lag or shit teammates. Not both at the same damn time. S rank is hell. Fuckin' laggy japs only play well when they aren't on my team.
>>320612547
OP if your garbage play the single player.
It give you a variety of tests that get you into the rhythm of the game, and the final boss is the final exam.
You beat that shit there is no way you should be THAT bad online.
Also Level 1 vs Level 50, while there MIGHT be a jump in some abilities, it's not GAMEBREAKING.
I've been killed by plenty lower levels, roller is still gonna kill me if I get caught off guard, splatterscope still gonna fuck me up if I don't see it coming.
tldr, keep playing, play single player, and git gud.
>>320612547
The fact that you make it into the match is impressive. I was so hyped for it, but when connecting took 10 minutes per match, and I dropped out of matchmaking while loading, I was getting 3-5 matches an hour.
No you don't.
I'm level 49 and S rank, and I get matched with sub-level 40 people with shit gear all the time.
Anyway, only complete shitters play TW so their gear doesn't matter anyway. If you're losing to them it's because you're shit.
>>320613108
Dude I can buy all new gear with nothing unlock and still be number one in the matches. Rank is really the only thing where abilities matter. And I don't really care for Rank battles.
>>320621434
At least you were probably making a lot of people very angry when you did connect.
>>320612547
OP i made an alt and wrecked an entire team of level 50s at level 1. it's skill that matters, not level/gear
>>320621478
>only complete shitters play TW
I'm also S rank and I regularly encounter good players in TW. It's a pretty good way to practice with weapons you aren't used to.
>>320621526
I disconnected before matchmaking even completed. And in the first week when the stage rotation changed you'd continuously get disconnected until you went back to the plaza out of frustration to get the mini-update. Because you have to completely leave the multiplayer menu to get it to update the stages. Fucking atrocity.
>>320620707
It's an indicator of experience you fucking retard. How would someone who just started playing the game be better than someone who has played 50+ hours? Unless you're some kind of prodigy a new player will get BTFO by a level 50 every time
>>320621496
I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying statistically there's a fairly large difference between someone with 12 abilities and someone who just started playing the game.
>start out level 1
>against level 19 and 20 in turf war
>push their shit in
Get good
>>320621478
>have done nothing but normal battles since I got the game so I could level up enough to not be in welfare gear when I start hitting up ranked
Uh oh, how much different is ranked?and will my inkbrush still be good in it?
>>320621783
>it's skill that matters, not level
Literally no one is arguing otherwise. But it isn't matchmaking based on skill, it's matchmaking based on nothing. Noobs should be matched with noobs, not people who have played for 300 hours REGARDLESS of the fact that they still suck
>>320622381
I'm just saying that you quickly learn that it's really just skills that in the deciding factor. Just keep playing and learning the game and soon you will get it. Yeah the extra abilities are helpful but they only give a slight better advantage which does suck. But once you hit level 10 (you will get EXP no matter what the outcome so there's no real downside of just playing) and start buying more gear you find that the gear is mostly just for fun and not really a big thing game changing thing.
>>320622613
Depends on the type of rank match. Honestly specials seem to matter more than anything. Shields in matches where you need to hold on to a point is godly than the rocket.
I just recently got a new wii u and had to restart splatoon progress and I can tell you that gear doesn't really matter. There was just one ability that I missed from my previous loadout and that was the ninja jump. (which then showed up in the shop a few days in)
Just git gud. I stopped playing as a level 28 last time just after they upped the cap from 20.
I started playing and was matched against 50s and kicked their shit in because they were C plebs.
levels mean jack shit after 10 or so which you can reach in no time at all.
>>320622730
>Just keep playing and learning the game and soon you will get it
What are you talking about? I'm not OP; I've been playing the game off and on since launch. I realize that a good player with no gear can overcome a bad player with gear. All I'm saying is that it should be taken into account when matching players since, purely by the numbers, it does make a large difference. It isn't fair to pit people who just bought the game against experienced players who are statistically superior to them
>>320613108
sub abilities barely do anything man
>>320620441
levels are used to let you unlock various weapons I think but after 20 even that doesn't hold up. From 20 onwards you just get a cosmetic every five levels from the cat dude
>>320622926
How is a veteran player starting on a different account at all analogous to the experience of a new player? Is someone who literally just picked up the game supposed to be superior to the "C plebs"?
>>320622913
So I'd probably be ok with the inkbrush nouveau then?
Also holy shit the hydra splatling is disappointing as hell.
>>320623071
Maybe not by themselves. But the difference between someone who has a perfect loadout stacked for damage/speed/ink/whatever and someone who has three potentially shitty abilities they randomly picked out of the shop is pretty big
>>320623184
I'm not even sure who it was, I'm running on empty, but someone was blaming items when all it is is lack of experience. Once you make it to level 10 and then make it into the upper-B or A ranks, shit gets noticably more enjoyable with actually competent teammates and because of all the time you put in to get that far you've probably gotten better along the way too.
>>320621478
>only complete shitters play TW
the only remotely fun ranked mode is rainmaker though.
And turf war is fun.
Only time Turf War is shit is splatfests since the same three maps get old fucking fast and all the tryhards from ranked (very different from actually skilled ranked players before you throw a fit) pour in.
>>320623039
They shouldn't really break it down to abilities but levels. But I think it's mostly because Nintendo doesn't know how to online Multiplayer. Also they most likely are worried there won't be enough people to play if they have a level cut off for the new players. I mean the developers were shocked at how fast people were leveling in Splatoon. They most likely thought it would take a few weeks to a month to get enough players level 10 for Rank battles.
>>320623282
Just join one and see. Rank is for leveling faster (if you win you get a shit ton of EXP and gold but if you lose you get nothing) but personally I don't really find Rank matches that fun. Turf War is my jamand I'm never really a competitive guy and just love playing for fun.
If you prioritize stats over looking good you're a faggot.
Also, post squids.
>>320623368
I don't see anyone in this thread blaming items man, other than people misinterpreting the argument as such.
>>320623543
My only annoyance is how I can't dress my shota in cute girly clothes. I wouldn't be that annoyed if it wasn't for the fact that a good bit of the AC team made Splatoon and that game is all about having fun dressing up as anything you want.
>>320615402
>>320620707
>>320621215
>>320622926
>>320621478
>git gud player who literally just started playing the game
>you're fucking trash and should easily be able to beat players who have been playing for hundreds of hours
>lol fucking noob here are some anecdotes that are not at all related to the subject at hand
truly the most autistic fanbase
>>320622381
>>320613108
It's not 12 vs 3. Sub abilities are worth 1/3 of a main ability, so the actual difference between new and old players is 6 vs 4.
>>320623902
I don't think he should be able to win right off the bat. He needs to play more and get acquainted with the mechanics of the game and get a feel for the map and various weapons people are using and figure out a strategy that will fit him. aka: git gud
>>320621478
>If you're losing to them it's because you're shit
yea i think we're all in agreement that new players are indeed shit. the point is that they should be matchmade with other shit players
>>320620476
Never played that map.
>>320623983
So when you purchase a new game and queue up for the online multiplayer that is the primary feature of the game, you should not be allowed to win? Sounds like great game design, I'm sure you'll attract a lot of prospective players with that model
>>320623902
Most of us get how people look at the abilities and thank "fuck they are way too over powered with 12 abilities against my 3" but people are just saying that the abilities play a really minor role and someone experience with 3 abilities can dominate people with 12. People here are all just saying that Splatoon is almost pure skill base than level base.
>>320624191
The game matches you against people who lose a lot when you start to lose a lot.
It doesn't even take that long to unlock ranked where you can actually have some matchmaking to put you with other new people.
>>320624191
Have you ever played a online shooter before? The whole point people are making is that just have fun and soon you will come to realize abilities mean nothing and you really can just focus on looking fresh and not give a fuck about what abilities people have.
everyone in this thread is a moron
turf war is not a mode where you need the best stats or the best gear to win. It's all about coverage. As long as you have a basic knowledge of how to play the game, then your actual skill will do 90% of the work.
Ranked is a little different, but you can't even play that until you're level 10 and by then you should be able to handle it. Again, it's mostly your own actual skill.
>>320624196
but why would you match someone with a player that is both more experienced AND has better stats than them? how is that supposed to be fun for the new guy?
>>320624347
>The game matches you against people who lose a lot when you start to lose a lot
that's retarded. and if it can do that, why not match new players with new players?
>>320623902
Maybe if OP didn't make out being "level 50 with perfect gear" out to be the huge gap instead of "All these people who have tons more hours practicing the game", people wouldn't point out his mistake. Of course people are going to be shitty and point it out in the least eloquent way possible, but they are not wrong.
Boiling it down:
1. Level doesn't matter
2. Only the first 3 of 9 abilities matter in the slightest.
3. Beat single player first, it is basically a tutorial.
>>320624435
The new guy can learn a lot from watching how more experienced people play. I'd rather be the only shitter on a server than have everyone derping around with zero awareness of the map
>>320624384
>HURR EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD IS A MORON
>proceed to say exactly the same thing that everyone else is saying
great post newfriend
>>320612547
>Max lvl
>still just use splattershot Jr with a bubbler
Best weapon imo
>>320624559
Except the vast majority of new players are not autists like you and don't care about learning from experts, they want to queue up and have fun playing against players of similar skill.
Honestly, defending the lack of matchmaking is fucking ridiculous. You're doing some serious mental gymastics
>>320624835
At least I'm enjoying the game
>>320624442
>Maybe if OP didn't make out being "level 50 with perfect gear" out to be the huge gap instead of "All these people who have tons more hours practicing the game"
you realize level 50 players will indisputably have tons more hours practicing the game? what the fuck else could that complaint have possibly been about?
>>320612547
Thinking of buying it myself; since you've had a few weeks to sit on it would you recommend the combo? It's going on sale again in like a week
>>320624435
My only guess is that Nintendo places more value on you playing the game over waiting in limbo, finding perfect matches.
It isn't some moba or CS:GO where the general populace would lose their shit if they were some newbie/lowbie going up against gods.
For example, I have had queue times of 20-60 minutes in games with matchmaking. Not even dead games. Just games that place emphasis on being as close to skill as your opponents as possible.
>>320624835
Have you ever played Splatoon? Turf War is just a stupid fun mode. Win/Lose it doesn't really matter because the whole match is about just learning the game. Yeah losing sucks but Splatoon's matches go by so fast you never felt losing was a problem. Just jump in another match and try you best. I played it at launch and when I actually lost I never felt like it was a waste of my time. Turf War is LITERALLY the perfect multiplayer game.
>>320625036
It's a good deal and Splatoon is a fun game, but as this thread illustrates it's not going to be a long-term experience unless you get really good really fast. Any other games you want?
>>320624974
They could think levels give them an advantage. They obviously think there is "perfect gear", which there isn't. That is a bit pedantic of me, since they probably just mean "fully unlocked gear".
I'm saying it was "These people have practice" on top of what OP was already griping about, but he was placing more emphasis on level and gear.
>>320612547
You must be really unlucky, I've never had matchups that bad.
>>320616287
No because I didn't talk about Splatoon before I owned it.
>>320613108
just play the splatfest tomorrow even if you get your ass kicked your team could end up winning and you'll get a shit ton of seasnails so you can upgrade your gear to have 12 abilites
>>320614996
Why would you want to wait almost twice as long as the actual match? Rank just means how long they've played you can still BTFO of the opposition with the Splatershot Jr at level one if you don't completely suck ass. You are using motion controls aren't you?
>>320612686
>gear isn't that important
my 2 killerwails in a row disagree with you
>>320612821
>based on w/l ratio
nice proof, also
>200 hours of failures > 10 minutes of success
>>320623735
>>320626971
>Why would you want to wait almost twice as long as the actual match
to get a fair match maybe
>start playing Splatoon
>get matched with level 30s~40s
>I'm doing twice the points they do
seriously? my friends told me it doesn't get any better even after getting to 50 though, most people are complete shitters
>>320627998
Ever since like a week after launch when I got a grip on how to play I'd wind up having roughly 1,100 points on a win in almost every match, minimum, unless I'm just really eating shit that day. And that's not to say that's amazing, but I'm always at the top (or #2 with a very small margin) as a result with most of my teammates, even on a win, barely breaking 800 at most.
I'm glad they made it so you have to get at least 400 points to get extra points to level up after 20, because seriously if you can't get 400 points normally you literally aren't even trying. I almost wish they'd up it to 600.
>>320628627
my whole game time with the game was fucking 0
zero
fucking zero
and I was doing twice their points
ZERO
FUCK
I MAD
>>320628797
yeah
it really doesn't get better. This is why Turf War is fun at times while ranked is utter shit unless you get a lobby together for it.
It should match you against people your level, but if some one uses the join friend button, then matchmaking is thrown out the window.
So what's the best weapon in the game?
Personally I'm partial to the N-Zap '89 because Sprinklers and Inkstrike.
what maps are in rotation?
MM is Splatoon is probably the worst I've ever seen in the game. I had a similar experience when I first started and stopped playing after only a few days. It doesn't even attempt to pair you with new players and just lets you get steamrolled in every match
>>320630771
tentatek
