>"I want to create something that’s what people expect, but at the same time will have something new that people haven’t seen before," Kojima said, noting specifically that "it will be a complete game."
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/12/16/hideo-kojima-talks-new-studio-edgy-playstation-game-and-the-future
Slow down there, Kojima. Don't get too ambitious.
>We live in times where selling a complete product is worthy of a big title in the news
MGS V was a complete game. This "unfinished" shit you guys spew is a complete meme. Every game has some share of cut content.
>>320474947
>noting specifically that "it will be a complete game."
>Slightly more edgy
Can't wait for me to be ashamed of my words and deeds
>>320474947
fuck that hack. I preordered The Phantom Pain and bought the hardcover guide. ~$80 wasted
>>320475260
>Liquid and Mantis steal a giant fucking robot and fly away into the ocean and are never heard from again
>DURR IT'S TOTALLY NOT UNFINISHED
>>320475179
It's just a figure of speech anon. Could mean that it will be a standalone game with no sequels.
>>320474947
how much of it was Konami's fuck-ups and how much of it was Kojima?
>>320474947
>I will break some taboos with my new game. If I do it wrong I might be banned from the industry
>There is something that was never done in the history of videogame and its only possible in this medium
Drones will excuse him with "Konami didnt let him', when this statements were just days before release.
Will I finally get to play as niglet soldiers?
>>320475260
>Needed an extra unfinished cutscene to explain the ending
But where is hideo, kojima?
>>320475179
>We live in times where journalist can write an article that someone was an asshole to them on twitter and thats some how mens fault
>We live in a fucking time where a yearly poll on a website some how matters to everyone
>We live in a mother fucking time where people take garbage seriously.
KILL LA KILL BY KOJIMA CONFIRMED GET HYPE
>>320474947
Any news on who will be Kojimas new gf and how much is he going to pay her this time?
>>320475358
In the wake of the entire MGSV drama, there is no way he didn't know exactly the way his words would be read. He was talking about the GZ/PP split and the unfinished content from PP.
based Jeff, bringing the bants
>>320475340
I got the LE and it was worth every penny. Get better taste.
>>320475342
>>320475378
>Game has a slight cliffhanger ending
>UNFINISHED!!!!!!!
I guess MGS 2 was unfinished too, then, but I don't see you fags ever bitching about how that game was unfinished.
>>320475504
the only thing I got out of it was a good fap over the parasite sniper unit. Quiet presenting was nice too.
>a new IP
I just hope it's Silent Hills with a different name
>>320475591
>fapping to bald women
What is wrong with you?You should have fapped to Paz while she is sleeping and dreaming of Gallo Pinto
>>320475492
Who?
I seriously hope it's a stealth action game that isn't Metal Gear.
>>320475492
He's right though. Kojima isn't fast, and they are starting from scratch there, no engine, no assets, no IP.
I'm surprised he made his comeback like this, and not by first joining a project still in development.
>>320474947
complete game in 2023
>edgy
have fun with that
Remember when Sonycucks got BTFO? Good times.
>>320475768
>only ecelebs I worship are right
>>320475768
WHOOOOOOOOOO?
>>320475770
Highly unlikely. It will either be Not Zone of the Enders 3, Not Silent Hills, or something completely new and weird.
>>320475912
time to awaits
>>320476123
>getting booty-bothered that someone hasn't heard of you
Calm down Jeff
>>320476123
>ecelebs
>worship
Ayyyylmao
>>320476152
He said he wanted to start small, so I doubt he will be doing Not Silent Hills first. He probably needs to give Del Toro some time to get over the cancellation and do other projects. A Not Metal Gear would be too big too. A short and sweet mech game sounds about right.
>>320474947
Kojima CRPG when?
>>320476513
How does this fucker manage to have a different face in every picture that he takes? Does anyone even know how he really looks like?
>>320477584
Quoted wrong, fucking mobile whatever you get it
>>320475260
>>320475342
It gives me hope to see that the bait culture still lives on
whatever he makes will get censored to hell and back if it even releases here.
>Game finally releases in 2021
>6 months after japanese release, all plot details have been spoiled
>We finally get a release date
>Some tranny from neogaf reveals the loli character now wears a burka
>game sells like shit because kojima's name alone can't carry a game
>>320474947
Are you ready for Iron Cog Flaccid?
>>320475590
MGS2 wasn't marketed as "The Missing Link that completes the series".
>>320479394
No, but it was marketed as the last game of the series.
>>320479806
Every game was like that.
>>320474947
Press F to pay respects to these guys
>>320475590
Episode 51 was unfinished. Did you even watch it, they didn't have the gameplay finished, any of the mocap voice work in, etc.
That is literally the definition of 'unfinished' and cut.
>>320474947
>"I want to create something that’s what people expect, but at the same time will have something new that people haven’t seen before,"
That's Kojima: The Sentence right there m8.
>>320475768
do you even chemtrails?
Due to the convoluted canon of the Metal Gear Solid games, series creator Hideo Kojima admitted that the story in Metal Gear Solid V became so confusing that the last half of the game contradicts the first half.
In an interview with Famitsu Weekly, Kojima admitted that he took a week-long break while writing Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain and had completely forgotten what happened in the first half of the story when writing the last half.
Either way, I am sure I can fix all of the mistakes in the sequel or the next one although I think I might be running out of time until Metal Gear happens. Maybe I will just write that and Metal Gear 2 out completely as a dream or something.”
>>320474947
>will be a complete game
Yeah, I don't trust this after what happened with MGSV.
>>320475590
Nigger, you've got to be tossing bait out there, because no way. I'm a die hard Kojima fan...but that shit was aboslutely unfinished. Chapter 3 being featured on a DVD released in the collector's edition, Episode 51 legit being unfinished, there being zero resolve to that story. MGS 2 absolutely was finished and MGS 4 was a direct sequel to that. Which gave answers as well as resolves for a ton of the characters. What the fuck are you on about?
>>320483505
>MGS 4 was a direct sequel to that
We're not talking about MGS 4. We're talking about MGS 2. It was "unfinished"
>>320475342
>raiden teleports to the hall in MGS2
>>320483580
No shit. Explain, faggot
>>320483664
I've explained what there is to explain. Ending on a cliffhanger does not mean being unfinished. If you think it does, then MGS 2 is by definition unfinished.
>>320474947
was that medium interview confirmed real or fake?
I cant wait to see how bad this game isgoing to be.
Now, without the retarded manchild fanbase around Metal gear Solide, its going to be a desaster and people will realize what a hack this guy is
>>320483790
But MGS2 was intended to end on a cliffhanger.
MGSV ended on a cliffhanger because they didn't have time to finish it.
>>320483790
But you are wrong. There was supposed to be resolve and a mild answer to what happened after Mantis and Liquid took the giant fucking deathbot and that got cut. MGS2 ends with Raiden saving the day, he and Snake parting ways, and him giving a Rose another shot. It was hardly a "cliffhanger". And that is why I factored 4 in. MGS V will not have an MGS VI which will give an update and resolve to their storyline. You literally just have to figure out what they did with that robot in between V and MGS.
>>320483790
>Ending on a cliffhanger does not mean being unfinished.
This is correct. However, a cliffhanger ending made because that was what was written is not the same as a cliffhanger endng made because the actual ending could not be implemented. We have the 20% finished cutscene, and combined with Kojima's departure and comments about "making a complete game" it is safe to call MGSV unfinished.
>>320480956
Funny thing is that despite this being from a joke article, it still ended out being true.
Chapter 2 was such a fucking mess.
>>320484068
Did you forget the part where Snake jumps out after Liquid Ocelot manning a Metal Gear?
>>320484000
>>320484084
The game ended with you beating Skullface, destroying the new Metal Gear, saving the world and finding out you're Venom Snake and not the real Big Boss. It's a conclusion to the series. It had one slight cliffhanger in Liquid and Mantis, just like there was one slight cliffhanger in Snake going after Liquid.
If MGS V is "unfinished", so is MGS 2
>>320484238
>Character is set up as the main villain for Chapter 2
>Runs off with the giant death robot that you spent the whole game preventing from getting out.
>Is infected with english vocal aids which you spent the entire game preventing from getting out
>Minor cliffhanger
Sure buddy.
Also
>MGSV
>Conclusion to the series
More like a spinoff.
>>320484238
I hope you are baiting, but then again maybe you are just a stupid anon.
>>320475260
>>320475590
>>320484238
MGS2 was not the final game in the series. Its ending stinger was a sequel hook and even then the game managed to tie together Raiden's story, with Solid leaving Raiden and telling him that he's done his part of the fight.
Meanwhile not only was MGSV advertised as the "missing link that completes the saga", it doesn't actually tell anything about the missing link (how Big Boss' downfall happened in practice), it doesn't even manage to tie its own plot together. Liquid and Mantis fly away with a fully functioning Metal Gear that can turn itself into a nuke AND the last English parasite test tube. The game itself previously made a huge fucking deal about how Skull Face would "win" even after getting crushed if the Metal Gear became public knowledge or if he managed to release his parasite strain so it doesn't make a lick of sense for either to suddenly not matter at all.
Then there's the fact of Chapter 2: Race having actually nothing to do with race, not to mention its very structure and pacing is all fucked, with filler missions (you're forced to do recycled missions or side ops before actual new main op unlocks) making the main chunk of it and the matter of the final mission coming out of nowhere and literally being the game's tutorial level, completely unchanged apart from two cutscenes. And from the Collector's Edition video we 100% know the game's final boss is cut content. You can deny all you want, but it's pretty obvious the game was cobbled together in a hurry and that a lot of planned content never made it, either due to Kojima fucking up planning and blowing up the budget or Konami suddenly pulling funding midway through development.
>>320484467
>how Big Boss' downfall happened in practice
Good thing you added the "in practice" otherwise we would've had to listen to the usual autism about PW and MGS3.
>>320484238
Oh. Yeah. When he pops the tracking device on Ocelot's Ray so he can track him....yeah. What about it?
>>320484467
>chapter is named race
>it's totally about ethnicity, a theme never talked about trough the entire game
>not about the "arms race" were you hurry to develop a nuke so your fob stop getting fucked
>I'm so smart I need to write an entire paragraph on me being smart
>>320475260
herro koshima san
>>320475492
Jeff is right, a system seller exclusive IS what Sony needs.
Sony won't exactly be helped by a low quality exclusive in two years.
If Kojima makes his game to come out around when the next Nintendo console is released, well...
>>320484730
>not about the "arms race" were you hurry to develop a nuke so your fob stop getting fucked
That has to be the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InUSRf8AIiM
>>320484814
Proving, once again, that you're a fucking idiot
>>320484467
>>320475260
>>320475342
Why do we need to know what happened?
They clearly fuck off and gather up 4 more to make the remaining parts of FOXHOUND that you fight in MGS1.
Also the fall of Big Boss is pretty fucking obvious. He fell a long time ago, far enough to even use his so called "best friend", his former rival turned friend, his best soldier to his own end.
The man who sold the world.
>>320485090
I'm not even that other anon, but your attempt to justify Kojima's incompetence is pretty desperate.
>>320485291
>Why do we even need to know how a character manages to cure himself from VOCAL CHORD PARASITES
>Why do we even need to know what they did with the giant death robot.
Gee, we might as well have ended MGS1 with the intro cutscene, we didn't really need to know everything that happened afterwards.
>>320484467
>MGS2 was not the final game in the series
It was supposed to be, though. Your point is irrelevant. We're judging games by themselves. The point is that calling a cliffhanger "unfinished" is retarded.
>>320485447
MGSV is unfinished because the climax that was supposed to be in it was cut due to time restraints.
MGS2 was supposed to end like that.
Why is this so fucking hard for you to grasp?
>>320485508
>MGSV is unfinished because the climax that was supposed to be in it was cut due to time restraints.
Except the climax is there. You destroy Sahelanthropus. You're just mad the ending isn't the one you wanted.
>>320485630
>You destroy Sahelanthropus
I distinctly remember a bunch of african kids repairing it and them flying away with it.
>>320475260
Chapter II you're literally repeating the game
>>320485423
>that false equivalency
We didn't know what actually happened in MGS1 or after it.
By the time MGSV comes we already know what happens next.
Vocal cord parasites are a bullshit thing to begin with, and the cutscene that didn't make it was released for everyone so there's really nothing to complain about.
I'm really only salty because of the part that was mentioned really early on in the game that foreshadowed the color blindness.
It would've been really cool to mistake Eli for an XOF soldier and then realize it was explained in a radio call way earlier.
>>320474947
tfw he looks like my ex gf
>>320486052
>We didn't know what actually happened in MGS1 or after it.
>By the time MGSV comes we already know what happens next.
Alright, so we could've ended MGS3 right after the Virtuous mission. Not like we didn't know everything that happened after it.
>People bitch when MS don't say how long a timed exclusive last (The whole Tomb raider incident)
>People are completely fine when Sony doesn't tho
kek
>>320486252
This is pretty much an MGSV shitposting thread at this point.
>edgy playstation game
mfw
>>320485291
>h-he was already evil in MGS3 and PW! And sharing his legend with Venom is also meant to show how evil he is!
I'm starting to become convinced that Kojima fans are genuine autists who can't read the main tone of scenes. Or they're just willfully ignoring them because it would undermine their personality cult leader's storytelling capabilities. Big Boss / Venom switch is clearly shown in a good light with the pandering "YOU, the player made this possible :D" message. Venom himself smiles and is content with playing the fool for Big Boss and the game ends on a relatively high note.
In MGS3 we're shown what causes Big Boss to leave USA, but he's still a hero. In MGS:PW his actions are also shown in good light, with him helping righteous rebels overthrow the evildoers, him saving the world two more times and his "brainwashing" and using of soldiers is never, ever shown in a bad light. On the contrary everything about MSF is shows how much of a good time they're having and how much happier everyone is under BB's servitude. Only the ending's "we're all going to hell" speech hints at his future downfall. MGSV is the same. People keep calling Venom a demon and telling how he and Skull Face are "two sides of the same coin" even when he does nothing, but goody two shoes shit. Let's not forget both PW and V heavily recommend and reward non-lethal playstyle instead of going full nuclear on enemy soldiers, to the point of outright punishing killing enemies through locking further gear unlocks. It's all telling and not actually showing. It's plain poor storytelling.
Big Boss' downfall is not "subtle" as you like to pretend, it just plain doesn't exist.
>>320486151
That's entirely correct, the series was meant to end with MGS2.
Everything else was added afterwards, I can't say I didn't like it though.
>>320486330
where is your fucking face
>>320475260
Butthurt MGSV fanboy detected
The map has been updated
anyone else for his store to open on the 21st to get cool kojima swag?
>>320486252
I don't like it either, but they aren't really saying anything about the game at this point.
When it'll come out on PC might be revealed as we move closer towards the PS4 release date.
I hope it's not long, because I wouldn't want to get the story spoiled and I don't want to have to avoid the internet for a long time
>>320486567
>The map has been updated
Wait, what?
>>320486662
I do, I'll get it as long as it's doesn't cost too much.
Although I look forward to what Kojima will do with the new kojipro, I want it solely because their logo is cool as fuck
>>320486378
>and is content with playing the fool
That's why he punches the mirror and sees the reflection of himself with the demon horn, right?
Maybe you can't read between the lines, but he clearly saw himself played for the fool and hated it.
There's also a very very clear difference between Venom and Big Boss.
Big Boss is obviously willing to use anything he can to get to his goal.
"Let the world fear us all,
It's just means to an end"
Sins of the father doesn't describe Venom's actions, as he's clearly shown doing a lot of things that Big Boss would probably not have hesitated to.
Did you also miss that behind Venom there's an Outer Heaven logo after he gets the tape? He's got no choice now since everything had been taken from him.
What I really would have liked to see is a Chapter 3 where you team up with Kaz while Ocelot fucks off to help out the real Big Boss.
Actually going nuclear on everyone but your most loyal mother base soldiers (named after Metal Gear bosses) who would stick by you and preparing to get back at Big Boss for taking everything from you.
It will never happen but it would be great, and also tie into the cycle of vengeance that's perpetuated in the game theme.
>>320486378
>In MGS:PW his actions are also shown in good light, with him helping righteous rebels overthrow the evildoers, him saving the world two more times and his "brainwashing" and using of soldiers is never, ever shown in a bad light.
Back in the day, I assumed this was part of the whole BB propaganda thing. The constant references to Che seemed to support that, since Che is the poster boy for being a violent monster and revolutionary but everyone liking them for some reason. So the light tone of PW wasn't supposed to excuse BB's actions, only contextualize how friendly military otaku Naked Snake became the warmongering Big Boss.
Now with the "I'm Big Boss and so are you," thing, I wonder if I was just looking into it too deeply, and it really was just bad writing.
>>320486378
>In MGS3 we're shown what causes Big Boss to leave USA, but he's still a hero.
I don't like any of the MGS games past 3 but you're a fucking moron.
MGS 3 shows how "being a hero" fucked The Boss over, Big Boss is looking at her grave and going "So this is what she gets, huh? Fuck the USA"
It's all the explanation that was ever needed on why Big Boss turned evil. Everything else was unnecessary filler to shell out more games.
>>320487034
Not to mention the "Big Boss leaving USA to form MSF" bullshit is a complete retcon from the later shittier games. If you ignore the retarded games made after 3 (as you should), Big Boss stayed pretending to be loyal to the USA until the events of Metal Gear 1.
>>320475340
>He bought the guide
serves you right spazmo
Cut content apologists and KOJIMADRONES make me laugh more than any other type of person on this site
>>320475260
2 replies in and the pathetic Kojimadrones from /mgg/ and reddit are already leaking.
This is now a thread were faggot make excuses, justifications and defend a grown up man that should be responsible for his poorly made development decisions and bad time management, that's richer than any of those faggots defending him and couldn't give a fuck less if someone on 4chan of all places says something bad about his recent game or if some cuck defends his "honour" online.
Why should I care about his gamepad peddler?
Console games are not actual video games. Let me know when he lends his talent to a true PC title and becomes relevant in the eyes of adults instead of children.
>>320487034
>MGS 3 shows how "being a hero" fucked The Boss over, Big Boss is looking at her grave and going "So this is what she gets, huh? Fuck the USA"
I know that. I was talking about his actual actions rather why he decides to ditch USA. No one is claiming that MGS3 didn't already tell the underlying *why* of Big Boss' downfall. That doesn't change the fact that MGSV was supposed to show us the *how* of his downfall, what made him the madman he is in MG1 and MG2.
By MGS3, PW and V he does resent the USA and Cipher, but he isn't anywhere near to child soldier using warmonger that he is in the chronologically subsequent games. In V characters keep saying he's a "demon" or Skull Face's equal when it comes to horrible shit, but it isn't actually showcased anywhere in these games.
>>320487316
This. Though /mgg/ these days is not much more than people Joostposting
>>320487460
liquid and mantis and the metal gear show up in mgs1
there is no missing link. play mgs1 to find out what happens after mgsv, fucking idiots
>>320487534
So much for that then.
>>320475340
>I bought something of my own will, so it's his fault!
Yeah.
>>320487510
>/mgg/ is just joostposting nowadays
Not reallybut I wish it was
>>320487706
Same tbhqh
>>320486846
>All those people who thought that message was beautiful
Yeah, you helped create the legend of a warmongering sociopath, good job, anon!
>>320487316
>>320487510
>>320487706
I haven't been to /mgg/ since right after the release.
Are they really being this defensive of it?
>>320487881
Any time you mention mission 51 or battle gear, yes. not as bad as it used to be though. There's a Hello, Reddit meme going around now that people are shitposting. It's pretty funny.
>>320486662
Me and a coworker are getting at least a tshirt each as soon as they're available.
>>320488048
>Battle Gear
Don't fucking remind me.
Anyone who thinks that shit is acceptable is a lunatic.
>>320488048
>There's a Hello, Reddit meme going around now
reddit/gg/sjw had been the standard "oh no i'm being btfo better bring everything down to shitposting" tool in /v/ and /vg/ for a while
>>320488153
B-BUT IT WAS UNBALANCED AND WAS GONNA SUCK ANYWAY ITS NOT A BIG DEAL
>>320488179
Never be game over, my fellow redditor!
>>320487798
Mgs3 and naked snake were the beginning of the end. Great by themselves but sent the series in a horrible direction.
>>320488145
I hope the store doesn't sell out in 5 minutes
>>320488415
I don't know, Kojima has some experience in selling out quickly.
>>320488552
does he? he's always worked for konami up until recently
>>320488580
Yep, yes he does. Look at his history.
>>320488580
He left Konami 2 days ago, and already sold himself to sony.
>kojima making a complete game
>kojima making a game
thanks, that was a good joke
>>320488643
finding a publisher is a pretty normal process for starting a development studio. he had worked for konami for like 30+ years, thats not really the definition of fast.
>>320476291
Jeff Gerstman has been in the industry forever, and is well known for saying things as they are, if aspects of your game is shit he will call you out on it regardless of the hype surrounding it. Recently took some flak because he was calling out Bethesda on releasing yet another buggy glitchy mess
>>320488816
>human being is honest
>wow look at this person guys, he's a god! wow I love you!
who the fuck cares? I have my own opinions on games, I don't need someone elses
>>320475260
Some more than others.
>>320475375
Isn't the fox engine Konami's property now?
>>320489005
yeah right. would have been nice though. but thats not how the corporate world works. you make something while employed by someone, its your employers forever
>>320488863
Well that's good for you, but a lot of people still rely on fanboyism and paid reviews to decide what games they're buying, just take a look at all the praised shit AAA releases since 2009/2010, having at least one mainstream established reviewer who tells it as it is doesn't hurt, actually it's very much needed so that AAA game devs stop pushing turds out if people catch up to it.
>>320483968
nigga your spelling is a disaster
>>320489005
>yfw kojima makes new ass-smashing engine better than unreal 4, frostbite and cryengine combined
>>320489780
The fox engine was already in line with those, he just has to make the same one, but with a better draw distance, and it will be perfect.
>yfw Kojima's new game flops
>>320475358
I'm pretty sure he used the word "franchise" when talking about his next game.
>>320475912
Kojima probably thinks he can't do much more outside a leading role.
Coming on to a project halfway through wouldn't make sense.
Starting from scratch, he'll be able to fully utilize his ideas into something that's finally not MGS
>>320475590
This fuckin guy. Always using the same image and the same bait. Get creative.
>>320490252good, now we only need konami to go bankrupt
So what's Hideo up to these days?
>>320485508
>MGS2 was supposed to end like that.
do you actually believe this?
The content is pretty repetitive and there are only like 2 bosses.
We are one and the same
http://jun.2chan.net/31/res/2101514.htm
>>320483586
Thank 911
>>320491260
>>320490252
>is not for pc waaaa i hope it flops!!!
>>320474947 (OP)
was that medium interview confirmed real or fake?
>>320493880
it's gonna be on pc lmao
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/kojimas-ps4-console-exclusive-will-come-to-pc/1100-6433155/
>>320475260
he was essentially fired after the first batch of MGSV:TPP tailors in which we saw "the majority of the footage" as some people say. So it's safe to say with the ending set up the way it was that it was rushed to conclusion before Kojima was really "done" with it hence the "unfinished" remark you keep seeing. It's a complete game it's just was not finished the way it was suppose to be probably more so in kojima's eye's than any of the fans.
>>320494786
that interview was deleted tho
Was it real or fake? What's Medium's reputation? never heard of them before.
>>320480956
God I forgot about this. It was so on point.
>>320474947
>2012
>"My next game will be the best game ever made"
>it's an incomplete game
>2015
>"My next game will be a complete game"
>it's a tech demo for Playstation 5
>>320486837
Venom considers BB his friend and even in the FOB ending he quotes what BB said in PW.
> in our struggle to surive the present we push the future away from us
> will i see it in my lifetime?
> we have to face our worse enemy the times
> will i see the start of the 21 century?
He remains loyal just like the boss did.
BB saved the world from cipher when they tried to use zeke to nuke usa and Venom from XOF.
Even in previous metal gear games they mention how BB saved everyone from the OTAN. And if take ops canon he is also a hero in the URSS.
About fucking time.
>>320494786
Pcfags will believe anything,like you guys sad there wasnt a ps4 or bloodborne was fake
>>320474947
>All these people saying Kojima's next game will be shit
It's almost like Ground Zeroes and PT didn't exist or something, they were both legitimately good because there was some thoughtful design put into them rather than generic, empty, open world #456.
I just hope that Kojima never makes an open world game again, lest we get more grindy bullshit.
>>320483968
MGS 1-3, GZ and PT were all amazing you dumb nigger.
>>320497928
Feet fetish is worst fetish.
