Playing this for the first time. Who's good and who's useless?
Frog rocks
Nobody is useless and who the best is depends on where you are.
>>320460935
Crono is basically god
You can beat everything in the game with any character combination.
Use Chrono and Ayla spamming Falcon Slash if you want easy mode. Use Marle as the third character for haste and occasional heals.
Everyone's good. You can do the whole game with just about any party. It's very well-balanced.
Save for Luminaire, that shit's OP
>>320460935
Game's piss easy, so just use whoever you like best.
>>320460935
Everyone is good, use who you want.
>>320460935
Game is simple enough where it doesn't matter. You can choose by personality.
You're probably going to be tempted to go with Chrono Robo and Ayla on your first run. But if you stick with Chrono Marle and Lucca, then you will actually have a much more satisfying run. Their techs mesh well. And their ability to buff each other makes them a powerful trio.
A lot of people will try to recommend frog, because they have man-crushes on him. But he's actually the least useful member of the game.
>>320460935
No-one is useless. It's a JRPG where all7characters are perfectly balanced and, thanks to the dual/triple tech system, compliment each other seamlessly.
Oh, and Crono's magic style isn't "Lightning"; that's faggy NoA censoring shit.
It's "Almighty".
And yes, he is.
>>320461553
What is that pic, a magazine advert? Haven't seen it before.
>>320460935
No one is useless but Crono is the best. How are you enjoying it OP? It's one of my favourite JRPGs.
>>320461323
I keep forgetting that those two are related...
Get ready for a great game, OP. My favorite classic JRPG.
As for your question, everyone is incredibly useful in different situations, so go crazy. My favorites are Frog and the Robot. I forget their canon names, because I always names them Rob64 and Croak. :3
>>320461553
The fuck is that robo-dragon thing? I can't remember that at all.
>>320461702
Yep. Here's one of the other ones.
>>320461984
Literally the very first boss. After Chrono's trial, you escape from prison and fight it on the bridge.
>>320461984
When you escape from the dungeons after the trial.
>>320461978
Kill yourself faggot.
>>320461985
>32 Megs
More like 5 megs. So funny how advertising was even more focused on graphical power and bit wars back then.
>>320463469
32 megabit actually. Which I think is 4 megabytes.
>>320461881
Ayla is related to Marle?
Try them all you mongoloid
It's been a while but my favorite is Chrono, Ayla and Robo/Marle
>>320464119
Play the game again. Ayla is her great x a million grandmother.
>>320463469
Considering that the vast majority of SNES games never went above 24 megabits, 32 was huge.
>>320464119
According to some interview, yeah. DISTANT ancestor. Just like some version of Schala is (though never pin-pointed by the devs, most fans who read that little article think she's likely Queen Guardia I).
>>320464119
Yep, ancient ancestor.
CHRONO
AYLA
FROG
>>320464379
This, or swap frog withrobo
Damn I want to replay this game. Should I go with DS or just play SNES version?
Am I the only one that played all my playthroughs with Chrono, frog, and Marle? Was always fun for me
Frog, Crono, Robo best team
>>320464775
Any other vowels just don't cut it
>>320464653
Go with the DS version for the animated sequences & the Bonus Dungeon/Boss that FINALLY ties Trigger into Cross.
>>320464653
The DS version has some better equipment and more stuff to fight, but a lot of what was added is garbage.
>>320464775
Bah, go with a Janus solo end run.
>>320461985
>over 70 hours
;_;
Ayla is the best party member
>>320460935
The best endgame team is Crono, Robo and Ayla, with Robo in particular getting really useful if you feed him your speed tabs. Frog falls behind in the last third of the game, Marle's healing abilities aren't a good tradeoff for her lack of firepower when Robo has a group heal and while Lucca has good techs her physical strength isn't anywhere near Ayla or Robo's.
It really doesn't matter though, the games designed to encourage any combination of characters and let you experiment with the dual/triple techs. Use whoever you like the most.
>>320465035
You don't strike me as a first-timer.
>>320465818
Not him, but even my first time playing Chrono Trigger, it only took 40 hours.
Note, I'm not complaining. I've played the game probably 50 times. But the first run through, even with New Game+ isn't 70 hours.
>>320465035
You can also beat Suikoden on the PS1 in 20 hours with all 108 Stars of Destiny gathered if you've played the game enough.
Marle and Lucca are the worst but still perfectly usable
>>320466005
I hope I'm not the only one who thought having the entire Zeal royal line dyeing their hair blue was kinda stupid.
>>320465818
Was my first encounter with CT. Bought it with 3ds at launch as well as oot3d.
>>320466163
I always thought it didn't make sense. As a kid, I just thought it was some kind of effect of them directly infusing themselves with Lavos' power.
It makes more sense when you read that Zeal was added into the game late into development. Which is probably why it really stands out (in a good or bad way depending on who you ask).
Sadly, I can't play Zeal anymore without thinking it was a direct copy of Star Trek.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cloud_Minders
>>320466165
Yeah, found it.
>>320466532
I think they suddenly realized they needed a way to explain why Marle was a blonde & not a bluenette.
Since, you know, the whole Pendant/family ties thing.
>>320466590
shit, I need to order that
Frog - Ayla - Magus is the GOAT team
Frog/Ayla's slurp kiss dual tech is absolutely bonkers, almost entirely eliminates the need for healing items
On top of this game being a classic JRPG, it also had Akira Toriyama doing the character design.
>>320467481
>>320466005
>>320464740
Switched Marle out for Magus most times, but yeah
>>320467621
It was also made specifically to be a game focused on Akira Toriyama's designs. Sakaguchi originally pitched it to Yuji Horii saying he wanted to 'make a game in the world of Akira Toriyama'.
So basically, Chrono Trigger came about because of Akira Toriyama. Which is ironic when some people blast him as a designer. Dragon Quest and Chrono Trigger would have never made it without him.
Not sure what's going on in this pic...
>>320460935
I never found Magus to be very useful, but all the rest of the characters are VERY helpful.
>>320460935
Always went Crono Marle Magus personally.
Magus AOEs the trash, Marle heals/hastes, Crono for single target.
Triple Techs are an unnecessary novelty. Only dual techs you need are Aura Whirl and Ice Sword 1 & 2.
just spam heal beam with robo the whole game, the rest doesn't really matter that much
>>320468016
Replay again. He can easily single-kill Lavos.
I wanted crono in smash.
>>320468016
Magus isn't too useful, but he is cool as shit
>>320466532
>Zeal was added into the game late into development.
Source?
>>320468236
We all did, Anon.
Makes more sense than Cloud, but he's getting a -REMAKE- not on a Nintendo system.
I wonder why this scene where Marle laughs about her breasts to Crono never made it into the final game?
>>320464653
DS version has more content and a better translationunless you're a sperg and liked Frog speaking in Ye Olde English when nobody else ever does
>>320468846
Honestly,what if he's the February dlc? 7 is just low. And why 3 instead of 4?
>>320465818
I did a full sidequest playthrough on my first run and it ended with about 30 hours.
I mean, there's the multiple endings and shit, so I GUESS it could be 70 hours if you get them all.
And then there's the extra stuff in the DS version.
But overall CT is a pretty short game.
>>320468781
An interview with Kato from over 10 years ago. Gonna have to trust me about it. Or don't. But basically he said he pushed hard to get Zeal added to the game while others didn't want it.
>>320468846
>>320468236
>tfw chrono was the closest way for Goku to get into Smash
>>320469401
I remember that article.
Kinda silly, seeing as how Zeal/12,000 BC became THE pivotal segment of the entire game.
>>320469574
Makes you wonder if 1999 ad was originally explorable.
>>320470042
Maybe, but doubtful. It's never been mentioned in any interview, and none of the artworks for the game hint at it.
Not even early pics like the one that made the box cover.
>>320469574
As well as being the biggest connection to Chrono Cross. Masato Kato likes Zeal so much, it became the focal point of the whole series.
>>320460935
Sadly ayla for me
Now if only this made it into the game...
>>320470528
That I would have to argue. Zeal was of SOME importance to Cross, but not nearly as much as Prehistoric 65,000,000 BC & 2,300/2,400 AD.
>>320470704
Well not useless, but incredibly underused on my first run
Tee hee hee
>>320470753
Eh...it depends. Also, the story of Chrono Cross kind of mixed the setting of 2300 AD, 1999 AD and Schala into the same thing. Explaining the Sea of Chaos as 'the point where all time and space converge'. With Surge being the 'trigger'.
But it still comes back to Kid being a clone of Schala. And Schala being FATE. And all the events in the game happen because Schala is thrown into another dimension by the Lavos gate.
>Top Tier
Crono, Ayla, Robo
>Alright Tier
Frog, Magus
>Low Tier
Lucca, Marle
>>320460935
None of them are useless. It's not like Cross which felt the need to flood the game with 40+ characters defined solely by their funny actions and had almost no relevance to the plot, all the playable characters in Trigger were useful in terms of both plot and gameplay.
Honestly you'll enjoy it more going in blind and discovering everything for yourself. Just be sure to check everything everywhere and make the most out of your game.
>>320471626
>*funny accents
>>320471626
Literally only one of the characters in CT have relevance to the plot.
And only three of them are useful.
https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Supporting_Material_Translation.html#Chrono_Trigger_Prerelease
>>320471753
You've clearly never played the game if you think this. Are you saying Marle, Magus, Frog had nothing at all to do with the story? Heck even Robo and Lucca had mini arcs which had far more development than any of the superfluous side characters in Cross. And each character has their own unique strengths and abilities which could be combined with others with the sole exception being Magus.
>>320471753
>Literally only one of the characters in CT have relevance to the plot.
They all have a part to play in the story. If you're going to ignore characters who don't have a direct connection to Lavos, then the only characters who matter are Schala, Magus and Queen Zeal. Which is stupid.
>>320460935
Who's good
>Ayla
who's useless?
>everyone else
>leave chrono dead
>leave robo in the forest
>leave magus alone
>kill marle
>facefuck lucca
>>320472042
I've always loved Toriyama's art, I never understood why people shit on it then praise fucking Amano.
>>320460935
Robo
>>320472148
Who is that cavewoman in front of Ayla?
>>320472329
Ayyla
>>320472042
I love Marle's design so much. A lot better than her sprite. They made the sprite too colorful, and you can't really tell she's wearing that brace/belt thing around her midsection.
I sometimes dream about respriting the whole game in higher resolution. Tuning the palette to the design works. Making the sprites overall more accurate to the design.
>>320472438
>tfe no 3D remake of chrono
>>320472257
They think Amano is more 'adult' because he's worked on Final Fantasy and Vampire Hunter D. The irony is, those products are liked more by teens who think they're adult. While stuff like Dragon Ball and Dragon Quest are loved by 90 year olds.
>>320472510
Maybe one day. The VII remake makes my imagination grow about older games getting a decent facelift.
>>320472510
Looking back on Resurrection, I'm kind of glad it was canceled. The 3D just wasn't up to par.
But what I really want is just top notch pixelart.
I don't trust anyone to get the style right in 3D.
>>320472510
Chrono Trigger is one game where a 3D remake would hurt more than help. Just let it remain the amazing game it is. Focus more on asking for a remake of Chrono Cross (one of the games that needs a remake the most) or a third Chrono game.
>>320472615
>While stuff like Dragon Ball and Dragon Quest are loved by 90 year olds.
Original Dragon Ball maybe, but Z and beyond are loved by the same audience as Final Fantasy, with the sole exception being GT which nobody likes.
>>320472769
I agree. It's already a beautiful game as it is especially for its time, it does not need a remake.
>>320472710
>I don't trust anyone to get the style right in 3D.
Armor Project could do it. But there's no point. Just play Dragon Quest if you want to see Toriyama's style in 3D.
>>320472769
>third Chrono game
My face would implode.
>>320472769
>third Chrono game
eh, I didn't think Trigger needed a sequel, I don't see the point in another.
>>320472042
Honestly Akira should have kept the Hylian garb for Marle, looks better than the genie-esque shit.
>>320472510
no one really cared about the DS remake except people who already played it
>>320472990
I would say it doesn't need a direct continuation of any of the storylines in the first two games, but just further expand on the universe. I think that would be pretty coolwith small nods towards previous games scattered throughout in npc dialogue and items
>>320472913
I don't think Dragon quest gets it right.
I would put the DBZ guys in charge before the Dragon Quest guys.
The problem is that Toriyama draws characters using illogical shapes that only work in 2D. Oh, sure, he's technically minded when it comes to vehicles, architecture, and terrain. But when he draws people, he's very loose technically. So it's a struggle to try and translate the style in 3D.
Unless some company is willing to go full guiltygear xrd on a Toriyama project, they will never get it quite right.
>>320473232
I did, I've only played the DS version and it's easily one of my favorite games.
>>320473287
I thought Dragon Quest VIII got it perfect. No, you aren't going to have crazy exasperated character movement like in the Dragon Ball anime. But for a cel shaded game, it was the best I've seen yet.
>>320473287
I mean no disrespect to the GG franchise but do you really believe shit like pic related is better design?
>>320460935
Recruit Magus.
Let Crono stay dead.
Magus/Ayla/Robo final party.
Frog is a loser and the other sluts are shit.
>>320472990
Chrono Trigger didn't need a sequel. Which is why Cross is more of its own story with some ties back to Trigger. A third Chrono game could do the same.A game where you travel across time and space to other planets Lavos has been to, eventually finding and killing the source that spawned Lavos.
DS or SNES version?
>>320473473
I think he was talking about the type of detail they use to animate the characters. But its not a good comparison because GG uses 2D sprites and Dragon Quest is using 3D models with cel shaded drawings overlayed.
Its like trying to compare a 2D Vanillaware game to a 3D From Software game. They're complete opposites in technology.
>>320460935
The holy grail party has long been crono, ayla, and robo.
I usually use frog instead of robo because I like him more but he's objectively the worse damage/healer hybrid.
>>320473453
I don't think DQVIII was cel shaded. More like absent shaded. Because there lacked shading. I just don't think it looks as good as it could.
>>320473679
Take a look at guilty gear xrd. Protip: it's not 2D.
The game is so piss easy it doesnt matter who you use.
>>320473596
DS. The SNES version had bad translation (not FF7 tier bad but still bad) and you can play it on the go. Also it has extra content which ties into Cross, which is either a good or bad thing depending on your feelings for Cross.
>>320473836
The term cel shaded is so overused, its basically applied to any game that 'looks cartoony'.
Yes, I know its a very specific way of rendering textures. But the term has gone beyond that. Don't complain to me. Complain to the kids who make bad lists on Wiki.
At the end of the day however, Dragon Quest VIII is one of the best games to transition from a 2D anime style to 3D.
