NEW HOMEWORLD NIGGAS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7beE0NgnmU
>always online
>expensive dlc
>oscar mike
>3d generated graphics instead of hand painted
>open world
>rpg elements
>controller optimized
>cinematic takedowns
You know it to be true.
The hype is real.
>new Homeworld game
>not in fucking space
Why?
LOOKS P GUD
>>320406665
Everything about Homeworld designs is FUCKING AWESOME!
I hope this will be good. Please be good.
I am 99% sure it will suck, but I am probably still going to purchase it
>>320408064
Because the old developers were making a new game completely unrelated to Homeworld, since they didn't own the IP, and then Gearbox said they could use the IP for free. Now it looks like they've joined up, since you're getting the Homeworld remaster for free when you preorder.
>>320406665
>Homeworld
>mostly generic ground-based RTS
What?
>Gearbox
prepare for goofy memes
Trailer looks neat.
Maybe if there's a fuller gameplay trailer released I'll get it. I love the aesthetic at least but I don't know anything about th mechanics
>>320409026
I'll take it if it possibly means a game similar to Dune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_N1zkgwLTY
>>320409447
>>320406665
Here is some more footage they released at PAX back in October.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd5Jsr7naFA
>>320406665
>getting what looks like it could be supcom in Homeworld's universe
>getting to explore ground combat in Homeworld's universe
SIGN ME UP BABY
Woahwoahwoah the 20th? as in next month?
man that snuck up fast
>>320406665
IT'S ON LAND?!?!!
IT'S ON THE FUCKING LAND?!
>>320411827
Apparently anon. I figured they would've shilled it a bit more.
>>320406865
nice proof
>>320406665
>we want the madmax/neo-star wars audience
>Play OG Homeworld
>It was hype
>Hear about Hardware: Shipbreakers
>Hype about that too, OG devs working on Homeworld style ground RTS
>It changes names a bit, adopts Homeworld name
>HOMEWORLD REMASTERED ANNOUNCED
>Super hyped
>HWR comes out
>It completely shits the bed by trying to be Homeworld 1 on the Homeworld 2 engine
>Falls flat immediately
>"There's nothing left"
>See OP
>Cautiously hyped
I...I don't know how to feel, guys
>>320412772
>>It completely shits the bed by trying to be Homeworld 1 on the Homeworld 2 engine
Eh I liked it, I played HW2 first and trying to play HW1 with that UI.. holy fuck I hated it.
>>320412772
Feeling hype of any kind is your first mistake.Chose the blessing of Nurgle and relish in your indifference
>>320412706
fuck you nigga this is exactly how I imagined Kharak to be after reading the Homeworld manuals over a decade ago
If anyone doesn't know, this is what the game was announced as originally
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgylViCFHAs&ab_channel=InsideBBI
Then we got this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWBJMwNgTQ8&ab_channel=nooblets.com
And now onto the "Official" announcement
Which is weird, cos at first it implied it was set /somewhere/ in the Homeworld Universe, but not set on Kharak.
So this is weird.
I'm scared Gearbox is yanking the chain to get this into sellable shape.
>>320412772
Every single thing gearbox touches turns to shit. They have some sort of midas touch for it.
I'm optimistic, but - it's gearbox. Holy fuck does gearbox suck ass. I almost don't want to buy the game, even if it's good, just because gearbox are the publishers.
I don't even think bethesda could fuck over the homeworld IP as badly as gearbox is about to.
>>320412772
>Non-Homeworld game changed to use Homeworld IP just for the selling power
>"Homeworld" on flat ground
You know exactly how to feel.
>Gearbox
Oh yay. I get Anthony Burch raping my favourite series of all time.
>>320413026
Homeworld 1 is hands down better than homeworld 2 unless you don't give two shits about gameplay.
There's a lot of people who don't like homeworld 1 and prefer homeworld 2 and the overriding theme with them, is that they played homeworld 2 first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G37cFbkArlw&ab_channel=InsideBBI
SHIIIIT Here it was, isntead of Kharak we were on "LM-27" because /something/ kept pulling derelict starships towards it.
>>320413268
They didn't have the rights at first, so it was Homeworld-but-not-really.
>>320413352
He isn't working on it retard, its not Gearbox developing it they are just publishing. The developers are former Homeworld developers
>>320413524
Gearbox will fuck it up somehow
>>320413365
I just really didn't like how the UI worked, felt very odd after years of playing C&C, WC etc. and HW2 is so much more streamlined so it feels like a massive step backwards.
Although the game is quite old now and there weren't many 3D strategy games around that had tested the waters.
>>320413467
Development worked like this:
>Old homeworld 1 devs want to make a new game together like old times
>gonna make a new rts game, but on the ground
>don't have the IP, so settle with something new while keeping the homeworld vibe/aesthetics
>start to prepare kikestarter and crowdfunding for the game, planning on f2p with lots of DLC
>gearbox goes, "yo, this shit tite, we'd be willing to fund and publish you guys"
>devs realize gearbox has homeworld IP and asks if they can make it a homeworld game
>gearbox goes aight
And that's how we got this.
>>320409026
Did you ever read the manual for Homeworld?
It had like 100+ pages describing the various wars and Clans on Kharak. All of the history, all of the shit that went down before the game even started.
There is a huge wealth of material for a game there, although I am extremely surprised that somebody actually went and did it.
>>320413845
I hope so, but I;m still worried.
Did you... buy Homeworld Remastered at all?
So, it's a new Ground Control game?
Neat
>>320412772
>>320413026
Eh, I'm glad the shipped the originals with the remasters. To me that makes up for the flaws in HW1 remaster, and that they fixed most of the bugs since release (though formations are still borked).
I'm also glad they went out of their way and do a true remaster rather than do a tim schafer esqu remaster.
>oscar mike
What?
>>320406665
>New Homeworld game!
Nice, what's it-
>But it's on the ground!
Well that sounds pretty shi-
>But it's also made by the original Homeworld devs!
Now that's made me cautiously excited.
I wonder if this does well enough Gearbox will make them an offer to make more 'proper' Homeworld games? That would be hella legit.
>>320414006
>Did you... buy Homeworld Remastered at all?
I-I bought the collectors edition
>>320413352
>On January 20, 2016, the creators of Homeworld invite you to lead the expedition that started it all in Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak, a brand new sci-fi RTS from Blackbird Interactive, a studio founded by veterans of the Homeworld and Company of Heroes franchises.
>>320414095
For all the post launch fixes, I don't they'd be able to "Remaster" HW1 without using a physics/ballistic engine from the ground up.
Each shot having weight, direction and speed is what tied everything; size of the ships, speed, formations, positioning, grouping, together.
The HW2 "lolol RNG hitscan time" broke the camels back horribly.
>>320414361
>and Company of Heroes franchises.
Shit the bed, it's literally by the power of my two favourite RS games combined!
>>320407506
Any more loli spaceships?
>>320414312
Ohh
At least you got Best Girl out of it
>>320414298
>I wonder if this does well enough Gearbox will make them an offer to make more 'proper' Homeworld games? That would be hella legit.
Yeah it would be interesting to see which direction they go in, a grander scale game or keeping that tight micro play style.
>Homeworld
>Not set in Space
https://youtu.be/RrkzIN2eP0U?t=2m50s
>Unity
No thanks.
>>320413365
What are the big gameplay differences between HW1 and 2? I've only played the campaigns and didn't really pay that much attention. They seemed pretty similar to me.
>>320414395
I agree, the would have to make a whole new engine if they wanted to make a pure HW1 remaster. Something like that is just not feasible in the time frame they worked in. I guess porting HW1 to HW2 engine was the best option they had considering how ancient HW1's engine was.
>>320414463
no but have a turanic bandit instead.
>>320406665
>Deserts of Kharak
So, what, it has nothing to do with looting shipwrecks? Is it based on a conflict between the Kushan clans over the Khar Toba or something?
>>320414761
T-that actually sounds fun
Cataclysm > 1 > 2 > Remaster
>>320414714
If you played remastered there is really no difference at all.
Original games, HW1 has some fuel management and formations are very important with small craft, this goes out the window in 2.
>>320414006
Yes, and I fucking regret it.
They could have actually put some effort into it and ported Homeworld 1 with a properly functioning physics engine.
Instead they literally just replaced homeworld 2 assets with high def homeworld 2 assets and added new homeworld 1 assets to homeworld 2 and called it a day. One of the lowest effort scams I've ever witnessed in the industry.
Fuck gearbox and every person who works at gearbox.
>>320414761
I'm guessing it will start off as looting things and then you will find dat hyperspace core and shit hits the fan.
>>320414714
Not him, but for 1 weapons weren't hitscan which had a huge effect on things like positioning, as homeworld 2 used a %chance to hit, and also squad formations didn't hold when entering combat, or they didn't have them I forget which, while they were very useful in homeworld 1. The gameplay just felt better.
>>320414885
Also this
>>320415007
There's also someone or something that wants to stop them from getting to space, so that's gonna be interesting.
>>320414908
I liked being able to play HW1 with bearable graphics and non-shit UI but Homeworld 2 is like the most pointless game to remaster, the original game still looks great and the UI is better than the remaster.
>>320414885
Oh yeah I remember formations.
Don't know if I used them well in the campaign though. I just put my slow frigates into a wall formation so they can all start firing at a target pretty much at the same time.
>>320406665
JANUARY
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>$60
stop
please stop this is too many games in the first quarter of the year
I can't handle it
>>320414714
The fundamental mechanic is the physics engine.
Homeworld 2 doesn't have a physics engine, it has a bunch of scripts to make shit fly around and pretend there's a physics engine.
So as a result: No proper collisions, no physics based projectiles (which adds A LOT to how certain ships are used), no actual ship formations, no REASON to use ship formations, no friendly fire, and so forth.
It's a lot of little things that together add up to big things that fundamentally change how the game works and plays. Homeworld 1's gameplay is fun, homeworld 2's gameplay is not.
Just to take one example:
With physics based projectiles, tight formations are dangerous because massed fire that misses a target can still hit something next to it, and ships in a tight formation also risked shooting each other - so a ball formation is great for shooting outwards in all directions, but awful if you want to maximize firepower in one direction (unless that direction is inwards at the center of the ball). It's something that added a lot more depth to the gameplay.
>>320415630
What else is good coming out in January?
>>320415671
>no friendly fire
I'm pretty sure battlecruiser lasers and rockets can hit friendly ships
>>320414908
I dont think they had a choice with out having a long development period. Referring to my post above:
>they would've had to make a whole new engine if they wanted to make a pure HW1 remaster. Something like that is just not feasible in the time frame they worked in. I guess porting HW1 to HW2 engine was the best option they had considering how ancient HW1's engine was.
Creating a new engine from scratch let alone overhauling two engines for separate games is just not feasible within a period of less than a year for development of two remastered games. I will give praise to Gearbox for what they were able to do with HW2's engine and the fact that they completely overhauled its engine and graphics and sound to a modern standard, rather than a AoE/tim-schafer "HD Remaster" where they just slightly up the texture resolution and make the game 1080p or 4k compatible.
>>320415132
Just to emphasize how pointless the homeworld remaster was: Homeworld 2 ALREADY had people adding graphical additions to it and ALREADY had a homeworld 1 mod where they just added the homeworld 1 assets to the game.
The remaster was literally just a more polished version of already existing FREE mods.
At best they got around some of the hardcoded limits on textures and added new shaders that modders couldn't.
>>320415748
I said quarter
Now, i am not the biggest expert in homeworld lore and you are free to prove me wrong, but i hate how shipbreakers is set in Kharak instead of the Vagyr homeworld.
In the first one, the colony ship discovery was a BIG thing even before they found the stone, now this game comes and the whole planet is a ship graveyard the Kiiths were fighting for, and thousand years before the discovery of the original ship.
>>320415998
Fine, what else good is coming out first quarter?
Was HW ever played competetively? I'd like to see what a match between two actually good HW1 players is like.
>>320416193
Plenty my man
>>320416193
XCOM2, I believe
>>320416190
This game is the story of the discovery of the ship that leads then to build the Mothership and make the pilgrimage. The main character is Karen S'Jet's mother or grandmother.
>>320406665
heh, I thought it was a typo and you meant ED:horizons.
I wonder whether it will have mixed space and ground combat. I like ground RTS there aren't any new ones coming out that I know of besides ashes of the singularity.
>>320415630
Too bad I want to get into VR early, broke as fuck after shelling a great deal of dosh into a high end system. Have just about enough to afford a HMD and perhaps 1 or 2 games.
>>320415871
> I will give praise to Gearbox for what they were able to do with HW2's engine and the fact that they completely overhauled its engine and graphics and sound to a modern standard
I won't give them that credit at all. Modders already accomplished 70% of that work. Most of the good things about the remaster only came from the homeworld guys at blackbird having all the original shit on hand.
And giving less than a year on development really shows where the priorities were: Not a faithful recreation of the games with better graphics, but a quick cashgrab on a newly purchased IP.
If they had done the porting with an adaptation of Homeworld 1's engine, instead of Homeworld 2, everything would've gone better.
But they had to use the newer, shittier, engine.
>>320416204
It's not really complex enough to be competitive imo.
>>320406665
Is it wrong if I actually kinda want infantry?
>>320406665
Is it true formations are useless in the remake?
>Blackbird Interactive, a studio founded by veterans of the Homeworld and Company of Heroes franchises.
>Rob Cunningham - CEO, former art director on Homeworld.
>Jon Aaron Kambeitz - co-founder, former lead artist on Homeworld and an artist on Homeworld 2.
>Yossarian King - a former tech director at Electronic Arts.
>Cody Kenworthy - a former Relic staffmember who worked on Company of Heroes.
>Paul Ruskay - music director on Homeworld: Shipbreakers, former composer for Homeworld and Homeworld 2.
>their only game ever has been the disaster that was Homeworld remastered
I'm cautious. This is under a new 32 man studio without half the tech guys still working at Relic, and without the other guys at Relic as well. And mind you, Homeworld remastered still isn't fixed and formations still don't work.
>>320416463
first of all, it's plenty complex
second, what makes you think complexity makes it more competitive?
>>320406665
This is why Gearbox never fucking bothered to fix the bugs introduced in Homeworld Remaster, isn't it?
FUCK YOU, Gearbox.
>>320416354
Fucking special snowflake characters
Perfect opportunity to introduce new characters to stand on their own merits, but instead we gotta namedrop to the previous games.
>>320415871
>I dont think they had a choice with out putting time and effort into it.
Okay.
Daily reminder no Cataclysm remaster ever, even though it's perfectly feasible from technical standpoint.
>>320416190
I think this is the period when they started to realize there was stuff buried in the sand out in the desert. and all the Kiiths are scrambling around trying to gather scrap and tech together from the wreaks.
>>320416523
Homeworld Remastered was done by Gearbox with some help from blackbird
Rather than being done by blackbird with publishing by gearbox.
If blackbird were the guys who did most of the work on the remaster I would hold absolutely no hope for this new homeworld game panning out and succeeding
>>320416698
>even though it's perfectly feasible from technical standpoint.
>no sourcecode found anywhere
>perfectly f e a s i b l e
>>320416539
>first of all, it's plenty complex
Really? It's rock paper scissors
>second, what makes you think complexity makes it more competitive?
It has to have deeper levels of gameplay hidden in there somewhere and there is only so much you can do in this game.
I always found it impossible to have a good game because the second somebody thinks they are losing they quit because they don't want to spend half an hour having their shit kicked in. Once one player gets ahead it's very hard to stop them.
Thia is fucking awesome
That trailer is fucking awesome
I'm more hype for this than Star Wars remake
This game will revitalize the RTS genre.
>>320416780
>no free mods that have already ported the HW1 content to HW2 to rip off
ftfy
>>320416586
The society is based on clans, it makes sense.
>>320406665
Literally just have a good story, or it is going to flop hard.
>>320416731
The trailer also pretty much whacks us over the head with the fact that the Kushan knew about the Taiidan before they sent the Khar-Selim to the outskirts of the solar system.
>>320406665
>NEW HOMEWORLD NIGGAS
>brought to us by gear "We swear aliens wasnt our fault, borderlands 2 was all that cucks fault and we really did win the name 'Gearbox' from GabeN on a Mississippi cruise high steaks pokermatch" box
>>320417019
>Real Time Story
>>320415979
Didn't they make salvage corvettes work?
>>320414017
How's Ground Control 2?
I liked the first half of first game, but those energy shits just don't click with me.
>tfw no more Sajuuk to bring to bear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GLmboCnLQY
>>320406665
can I capture ships for the glory of Makaan in the new one?
>>320417154
What was broken with them?
>>320416463
It's too complex to be competitive is what you mean. It would be like trying to make a 4X game an export. It's slower and not made for it.
>>320416354
>>320416731
The ship was discover with a satelite accidentally pointing at the desert, not with the Kiiths blasting each other with fucking hovertanks.
I know Homeworld 2 already retconed stuff so the Hiigarans were the choose people and the hyper core drive was made by the Gods themselves, but is starting to be silly.
>>320416606
Well, you have to look at Gearbox's line up to see where I'm getting at. You had the Boarderlands game, Duke Nukem, Battleborn along with the Homeworld Remasters which were all competing for production time and resources. Gearbox had to divide their production amongst their games in order to meet production deadlines. Having a game sit in production for +2 years when there are other games that need attention is poor project management and asking for trouble. Think of it this way, is gearbox going to devote more resources to one of its own in house IP's (Boarderlands) or a remaster of a game that's over 20 years old?
>preorder gets you a free copy of HW: Remastered
>if you already have HW: Remastered, you get this 20% off
Neat.
Game looks pretty cool, but we won't know how good it is until we play it. All I can say right now is that the maps look like they have SupCom levels of scale, which I like.
This trailer is like six months old.Can't wait for it to be shite
>>320416523
>Paul Ruskay
Well if it all goes to shit at least we'll have a nice soundtrack to pirate.
>>320417146
what?? It's not going to have a campaign?
>>320417625
I wouldn't be so sure, his latest work was blatantly HW-inspired Strike Suit Zero and it had at best two good tracks.
>>320417854
Looks delicious
>>320417123
No, in the lore from the manuals there was a group of religious fanatics that were REALLY against the Kushans building rocket ships and exploring space.
Taken from the manual:
> mission silumiin riots CIRCA 1024
>Space exploration was notgreeted favorably by the entire population. Large factions from some of the poorer clans believed technology and industrial output was being wasted on this effort.They thought it would be put to better use trying to alter Kharak or at least discover ways to support more people and hold back the encroaching deserts.As final prepa-rations for the first orbital flight were being made,an obscure theologian named Per Doine provided the unifying force for these factions by resurrecting the old myth that tragedy would befall our people should we offend the gods with another act of arrogance.This religious revival spread throughout both polar territories and it culminated with an attempt by a frenzied mob to tear down the Silumiin launch vehicle on the eve of its lift off. This disaster was averted only by the wisdom of the High Technocrats who stood on the launch base defense turrets, preventing them from firing on the crowd,and preached reason to the crowd for the entire 14 hours required for launch. Per Doine slipped through the cordon and prayed for salvation beneath the rocket’s main engines until they ignited,vaporizing him. He died a martyr for the cause.
>>320406665
That's beautiful.
>>320416842
Homeworld 2 is rock paper scissors, homeworld 1 isn't.
There's a lot of nuance to the homeworld 1 units that homeworld 2 throws away.
For instance: Homeworld 1's missile destroyers frontload their damage, they can put out a lot, but they can't sustain that for very long, and they don't turn very quickly. Which gives you some very interesting ways of using and defeating them.
>>320417123
Do we know the ship in the trailer is Taiidan? The only thing that stands out is that it looks much more advanced than the other units.
>>320413365
so if you play HW1 first you like HW1 more
if you play HW2 first you like HW2 more
this sounds like a textbook case of "they both have different strengths and weaknesses and wherever you enter the series will be where your comfort zone lies"
>>320416932
What makes sense is having some clans other than fucking s'jet and sobaan saving the fucking day. AGAIN.
>>320415124
Have you not played Homeworld anon?
>Taidan attack after Kushans break the ancient treaty forbidding Hiigaran descendants from entering hyperspace
>ship at the end is clearly a Taidani imperial assault frigate of the same type that destroyed Kharak
>
>>320417420
I just wish homeworld 2's everything could just not exist.
>>320417825
he was just re-purposing the RTS acronym
>>320417310
They didn't exist in HW2, and I seem to recall reading that it was almost impossible to mod them in.
>>320417563
this trailer is literally brand new anon
they had no gameplay, in the old version
in fact all they had was flying over desert
>>320418537
Man.
I'm honestly not sure if this HW2 hate is new, or if I was just not as immersed in the internet when it originally came out, but I remember nothing but good vibes from HW2. Hell, I loved it to death and I played the first one almost exclusively for the better part of a decade
>>320418220
It's not taiidan, I guarantee it's a kushan ship that got shot down, nobody knows why, they think it's that crazy religious kiith I can't remember the name of, but you have to go salvage shit and find out what happened, then you figure out it was aliens who did it and the whole ball game changes and the satellite that 'accidentally' discovers the khar-toba is no longer an accident.
>>320417858But I really liked the soundtrack to that game.I also liked that game.
>>320418712
HW2 was (and is) fucking gorgeous, and remains one of my favourite games ever. I loved the shit out of HW1, and played it with my friend for ages, and going straight from that into HW2 was amazing.
>>320418613
Sorta right.
The HW2 equivalent was boarding something and they were useless because you couldn't go above the limit like in the first one.
>>320418712
Homeworld 2 is basically the CoD of the homeworld series. It had wide appeal, was easy to get into, and also shallow as hell.
Nobody even remembers Cataclysm but it was probably the best of the three homeworld games.
>>320406665
I've never seen heard of this game but it looks really fun. I always thought the Homeworld series was about air battles or something.
>>320418839
>I also liked that game.
So have I, Anon, but devs turned out to be assfucks who torched the franchise with Director's Cut and ran off to make a new studio. They're making some f2p mobashit, last I heard.
But in the soundtrack only the main theme stood out, really.
>>320418712
The HW2 hate is just more visible now that all of the people who liked HW2 have gotten tired of it and forgotten about it leaving only the true long-term HW fans to voice their opinions.
>>320418537
Blame THQ for all of HW2's flaws. THQ made Relic release HW2 because THQ wanted HW2 on the shelves ASAP because of HW1's success. As a result Relic had to cut a ton of content from it with entire game mechanics and factions being cut out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnvEFFCjSCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLnkOyQRuGQ
Where the fuck is the Baserunner
As for as game trailers go this one is beautiful, the kind you can watch multiple times, great atmosphere, great pacing, just has me so fucking hype, the gameplay looks like it will be fun too.
I long had an idea swimming around in my mind about an RTS game thats like Supcom in gameplay and scale but takes place over a far larger scale than a simple game map restricted to a couple square km's. And it would be slow paced, set in the desert, massive battles would take place over what few resources they can scrounge up, and you would have crawlers that are slow like the UEF crawler from Supcom 1 and 2 but serve as a mobile base that must be protected and defended at all cost.
I'm seeing a lot of similar things from just this trailer alone which has me hyped as fuck.
Posting skyboxes
>>320414908
they redid all the graphics, cinematics sounds and even voice acting with same cast
it was a good remake
>>320419095
>>320418956
>Nobody even remembers Cataclysm but it was probably the best of the three homeworld games.
Other than the shoeboxes, I loved everything about it.
>>320418712
It's always been there, but Homeworld 2 was a bigger and more popular game than Homeworld 1 was, so the people who didn't like what homeworld 2 did with the story and mechanics have always been drowned out in online discussions.
>>320419203
>>320406665
I like it.
It's Gearbox, so obviously some trepidation there, but just going from the trailer, it looks and FEELS like Homeworld, and it looks like it plays like Homeworld, which is saying a lot, given the drastically different setting.
Cautiously optimistic
>>320419232
I dread the day when one of these end up being cheese pizza.
>>320419143
It was a shitty remake and the original voice acting was better than the new voice acting.
Literally wasted money and development time right there. I don't know why you're praising it such a stupid decision like that was.
>>320419143
>graphics
I'll give them that, the ships are a work of art to look at
>Cinematic sounds
At first, they fucked over the Interceptor shooting sounds, but they got those right
>Voice acting
Somehow it felt...worse? I think it was because in those cutscenes, you used to have some ambient sounds/chatter in the background, but in the remake, much of that is... gone. Made it feel weird and empty
But nigga you didn't even mention the gameplay and mechanics so suck a dick
>Gearbox
Fuck off.
>>320419232
The Beast was probably the second best RTS villain ever. And first in sheer horror value.
>>320419301
>>320419321
Well, one positive thing I noticed is that the game LOOKS like it has physics based projectiles.
I really hope they learned lessons from Homeworld 2 and aren't repeating the mistake of RNG stuff.
>>320419385
>gameplay and mechanics
Those are secondary
>>320418056
That was almost a century before the game takes place, and pretty sure the manual doesn't mention any comflict after that.
>>320419374
>It was a shitty remake and the original voice acting was better than the new voice acting.
This holy fuck. Command man turning Canadian and the mothership woman sounded really bad compared to HW2 woman
The Flagship guy also only did one line 'assault craft complete' which for some reason didn't make it to the original game and sounds like a giraffe in pain.
>>320418712
HW1 was great, and so was HW2. HW2 was great for different reasons though, and gameplay-wise it was much more simplistic and shallow. The story also took a crazy turn for the worse, on the same level as BSG's season 4.
What HW2 had better though was graphics, UI, and ship designs. HW1 had some GOAT designs, but overall Vaygr designs and the more advanced Hiigaran designs are some of the most iconic scifi ships in existence.
Gameplay wise, Cataclysm was the best, but I doubt anyone here played it since it's hard to get a copy of now. Otherwise people would be bitching about HW2 not being more like Cataclysm instead of like HW1.
>During the next 25 years, the Mothership lowly
took form inside the Scaffold, building up in layers from the center sections outward, until the final layer of ceramic armor was laid just last year. For the last eight decades, more than 10,000 technicians along with another 25,000 robots have worked on this ship continuously. Many of the fusion torches and materials plants that broke down and processed the planetoids early in the construction program were cannibalized and incorporated into the Mothership itself. During the course of this massive project, 2,357 personnel gave their lives for the future of our people, and their names are engraved on the central hyper drive core of the Mothership. Theywill never be forgotten, and their brave spirits will precede this vessel into the gulf of hyperspace.
I actually shed a tear when I was reading the manual for the first time
>>320419409
>>320419503
Depends on the audience.
If you want casuals who don't care about the franchise and will drop it and forget about it after two years, then yes. You want graphics and presentation.
If you're going for the long tail distribution and the money that comes from having an established and respected franchise with games that are held in high regard decades after they've been released, then you want to focus on gameplay and mechanics.
>>320418537
To continue >>320419031
Pic related was a map of the galaxy before the cuts. HW2 was to feature all the factions present in this map.
>>320419685
The scale of everything in this and other kalros missions blew me away back then and still does to a degree today
>>320419608
The next step was to construct the orbiting Scaffold
where the Mothership would be built. This
framework took 10 years to complete, and is the
single largest structure ever built. New disciplines in
macro-engineering had to be created and put into
practice just to complete this construction yard. The
Scaffold measures 25.6 kilometers long and is
stationed in middle orbit around our world. Easily
visible from the planet’s surface, it is the only moon
Kharak has ever known and has been a natural fixture
in the night sky for almost four generations. Only
the eldest of our people can remember a time when
the skies were dark and there was no glittering lattice
work to remind our people of their destiny.
>>320419685
That level
>>320419878
The part where the mothership is split into two and left to drift, makes me think maybe after a long time has passed some smaller little people will find the mothership door and then the mothership in their own exodus journey.
>>320406665
>that huge map
>those graphics
>that aircraft carrier
I am excite
>>320419232they c҉om͚e̲͙̹̬̫̦͈...̤̯̠̟̗̻ ̡͙̖ ͏̜
̛̝̜̤̭̞͎̗ ͍̺̟̥̤ ̩͙̘̠̼̫̬g̜͓͇̜̭͖̍͑̉̂̓ͬ̓͘͜oͨͦ̿̌͏̹͍̕o͙̽̿͗ͨ͊̏̀̚ơ̷̟͎̭͎͛̌̐ö̳̞́̿ͫ͑̎ͭ̾̄̊͢͝d̙̱̜̲̹ͧ͢͜͠
I hope they realize that the key to a good RTS game is good singleplayer, not trying and failing to emulate the freak success of Gookclick.
>>320420443
>gookclick
kek
>>320420383CUT US LOOOOOOOSSSS̢̒̃͗͛̎ͥ͌̇҉̝̤̠̼͉͔̰̦̜̤̝̺̳̥̰͈̺̮ͅĒ̡̥̯̳̬̠̝̻̘̟̹̬̗͚̗͕͖̼͇͓͋̔̔ͫ̐̀̇͡E̡͎̖̖͔͚͓̘̦̱̭̦͍͓͂̎͊̅͌ͣ͗ͫ̅̓̏̒̑ͯ̏̌́͞͞͠E̶̘͓̯̲̖̪͈̗͉͎͙͍̞͐ͣͮ̿̑̊ͮ̀́͑̅ͧ̔͘͡E̵ͧ̈́ͩ̑ͬ͂̀̋̑͒̚͜҉̵̫͙̬̟̮̜̫̟̞͟Ȃ̧̂ͨ͊͗̿̈́ͧͨ̒̑̑͏̡̣̖̠̜͇̭̹̬̼̰A̷̴͇̺̟͕̣͉͈̦͖̝͙͕͈͕͖͉͍̯ͮͣ̒̈́̏̉͊̑ͣ̿ͧA̶̘͚͔̠͉͕̱̹̹͔̲͚̩ͬ͗͂͒̈͑̂̋̍̔̀͛́ͅA̧̋̌ͬ̔ͫ̇ͦ͑ͪ҉͕̥̼̤̼͇̼̘̫A̛̛͓̳̜ͬ̃ͭ̐ͦ͒ͧͫ͆͒ͭ͋̍̉ͤ̄ͮ͜͡ͅÃ̸̵̤̯̳͎̤̝̺͉̰͈͙̅̆́͂̑̇͊̉̊̈́͌͛͝R͉͔͈̱͍̥̱̭̤̖͕̲͎̞̮ͣͥͬͬͯͮ̒ͮͥ͋ͨ͂ͧ́̿͆́́̚̚͘͟͡ͅRͭ͂ͭͨ̑ͧͪ͒̍̽ͤ͋ͪ͌̉͂͏̧͈̩̠͚͔͎̤̦̦͎̻͙̳͟͢͠R̷̢̤̳̳̟͚͎̝̗͂̽̽̀͐̈́̇̒̀̀̚͜Ṙ̢̛̽̌ͭ͆̃ͪͮ̚͡͏̜͍̘̖͇̹̬̳̳̖̱̦̗R̴̷̨̡͎̯̥͕̺̹͖̩̻̺̞̆̈̊̆͆R̵̢̓͂͐̓ͦ̓ͤ͐͌͏̧͔̗̰̖̩R͔̗̱̱̖̺̺̪̞̭̤̜̦̩̦̗̤̞̈̉̐͐̏ͥ̂̉́͡R̲̟̣̟̰̰͛͐̽̊͜͟Ğ̨̞͖͉̗̗͎̲̳̤͗̏̆͛̾͛̊ͤ̊ͪͩ̅ͭͤ͋́͜͡Ģ̛͇̦̤͙̜͈̻̝͕̠͇̻̩̟̺̎́͌̆G̨̡̨̤̭̙̲̩̠̾ͤͧ̓̋̉͋̌͌͂̐̀͟G̷̻͎̗̻͕̫̜̲̥̾̾̈́̈̉͌͗̀̚̚͞Ģ̨̻̝̖̖̪͕̥̗̩͂͛̊̑͌ͣ͋͆̎̍͊̂͆ͥ͞ͅG̗̭̯͙ͧ̅̅ͤ̾̍ͫ͐ͣ͛̾ͭ́͠G̢̩̝͓͓͉̪̤͒ͤ͋̅̂ͪ͠͡͞H̷͇̘͓͙̥̘̞̰̝̖̙̝̞͖̟̦͓ͣ͑̅ͪ͛ͩ̾͂̇̑ͫ̔ͦͮ͐̈Ḩ̶͕̫̬̜͖͔̖͖͙͇͚̳̩̦͆̒͒͌̒ͨ̅ͥ͒ͯ͆͐̀̚͠ͅH̵̝͇̱͙͙͚̬̠̮̞̰̠͓̜̥́̉ͨ̈́̅ͭ̐ͦ̆̅̌̇̀H̙͍̳̺̮̀ͦ͑̋̊ͧ́͌͌ͯ͂ͪ͘H̶̱̰̩̫̤̳͍̭̬̤̋ͤ̔ͮ́ͩ͛̚͢!̴̷͇̪͙̮̻̱͚ͩ͊̽̌̓̍ͨ̽̽̐ͥ̓̃̑̚̕͞!̷̨̻̥̜̯̺͚͓̦̼͙̮̞͇͕̮̟ͥ̏̋̉̓̒͑ͦ̆͊ͯͧ̅̃ͮ̈̚͠!̨̞̲̦̹̎ͬ͋̏̔͊͂ͧ̅̕͢
>>320420126
If you're referring to this map, I doubt it's in-game.
>>320419949
>and there was no glittering lattice work to remind our people of their destiny.
Meanwhile today the only reminder of our destiny is staring at the moon in the night sky and knowing that's how far a human soul has ever journeyed and the peak of our glory, yet to be surpassed, for over 40 years.
>>320406665
Reminds me of SupCom
>>320420737
I hope it is.
If we go to Skirmish and are just presented with some premade maps in a relatively small square I'll be disaapoint.
This is a chance to revolutionize and revitalize the RTS genre, doing away with the standard Skirmish map into something larger and more seamless with the planet itself would be amazing.
>>320420909
>staring at the moon in the night sky and knowing that's how far a human soul has ever journeyed
don't make me feel
>>320418220
It actually seems the trailer is in reverse, the ship gets shotdown and you go to savage it.
>>320419782
posting this for even more reference
don't think this is official, though.
>>320420583
>>320420383
>tfw the game turns from RTS to survival horror
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDcELUCroDs
Cataclysm had a nice atmosphere of despair and desperation.
Your defenseless mining ship with subpar tech and old, outclassed ships against the Turanic Raiders, the Taiidan Empire, and now against the fucking gravemind and whatever it can grab, subvert and throw at you.>tfw remastered cata never
>>320421050
>doing away with the standard Skirmish map into something larger and more seamless with the planet itself would be amazing.
Didn't Planetary Annihilation already do that?
>>320420976
Oh shit nigga.
You just made me realize that the people making this game actually know what they're doing, unlike Eugen, Petroglyph, Relic and everyone else who made a classic RTS lately.
Before making their own game, they obviously looked at others for good ideas. In this case, SupCom's strategic zoom.
I'm a little more hopeful now.
>>320421067
>In the 60's people could look at the moon and know that someone on its surface, hidden from view walked brave American men, the pioneers of our destiny into space, the loneliest and the bravest human beings alive.
>Now we look at the moon and remember their conquest, and wonder why did we stop there, why didn't we stay, why didn't we continue on to Mars and beyond. Why did we give up and languish in Earth orbit instead, never going past our Earth's cradle again.
>>320421340
Yeah but it was shit and the world was too small.
>>320421418
Because the Cold War is over and there's no commies to one-up anymore.
>>320421534
Yeah, I did hear the game was a pretty big disappointment.
>>320406665
>desert combat
>homeworld
my fucking weakness, severely interested, but space where
>>320421608
Also because Nixon was a narrow minded, simpleton who couldn't envision grander things for America besides bombing the Vietcong some more.
Are there working torrents for Cataclysm?
>>320421050
I have hope too. If it ends up being a supcom-scale game then that'll be dandy.
>>320421273
>Protectorate of Kadesh
I'll press Square for Doubt.
>>320421954
News flashKadeshi == Kushan
>>320414312
Oh wow, you can actually still buy it on amazon, but its close to $100, and all I want is the statue. Fuck the remaster I'd rather just play OG Homeworld 1 again.
>>320420909
>>320421067
>tfw we will never get our shit together, build great steel beasts strapped to chemical boosters meant to defy the laws of gravity itself and hurl ourselves into space, the very forge of creation itself to carve out our destiny amongst the stars
>instead we're content with ruining what society we have left with stagnant degeneracy disguised as progressive change and social revolution
>we could have been gods
why even live
>>320406865
>>3d generated graphics instead of hand painted
are you retarded mate?
>>320422434I am pretty sure we had to kill them all to get out the fucking nebula
>>320422434
The Kadesh are a tribe of the original Hiigarans who got lost on the way to Kharak.
>>320422567
Feels bad man, we stopped dreaming.
>>320422567
cause drugs, sex and a chance at good VR or digitalized immortality
>>320406665
Honestly, i wont touch it with a stick even though im a big fan of the franchise.
After the fucking DISASTER that homeworld remastered was i will never ever fucking touch anything made by gearbox.
Hands down the most buggy broken piece of shit that puts any Bethesda game to shame.
Gearbox to thsi day refuses to fix it, and with tehir track record of publishing low budget subpar crappy games i expect this ont to be as shit.
Even the trailer has framerate issues and graphic straight out of 2010.
And its just the trailer.
Fuck Gearbox.
>>320422746
Somewhere recently our civilization took a wrong turn, for the worse.
a fucking desert carrier
Looks like they're retconning the FUCK out of the Kharak expedition.
Fuck Blackbird and fuck Gearbox for ruining a great franchise.
>>320422434
>>320422657
>>320422720
They became religious zealots who lived inside their 'god', fearful of the 'great evil' that casted the Kushans out of Hiigara and Kharak.
They fought to the last man just for self preservation.
>>320423028
I love the fuck out of this idea.
>>320422657
I don't think you had to destroy the Khar Whatshisface though, so they could have survived. Anyway I was more concerned with why the outside galaxy would have the Kadesh on a map, instead of "this nebula contains dragons".
>>320414312
I got the collectors edition too. Right now it's sitting on my desk. I plan on using it for my wargames. Just backed Dropfleet Commander on KS. I plan on using the Mother ship as maybe a space station an objective marker or scenery.
>>320406665
>>320423028
Wut?
>not highest res
plebs
>>320423196
I can't even have it out the box because mykidswill destroy it.
>pls be good pls be good
>gearbox
boy you faggots are really that thristy for a homeworld game that you are willing to delude yourselves huh?
>frame rate issues in the trailer
What the fuck
:(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJvYZXUT5Bk
Adagio for Strings will forever give me massive feels
I can easily say that this game really left an impact on me as a kid. Returning to Kharak especially. Also the first time you meet the raider's and their theme music comes on made me shit my pants as a kid.
>>320409478
>it's in desert
>therefore Dune
>>320423319
Makes it blurry tho.
>>320423481
mad max?
totally dune bro
please, please, please, please, please, please be a good RTS
I desperately need a genuine quality one
>>320423351
Just let us have hope. It's only one month.
>>320423461
God damn goosebumps just listening to this again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgbI69dpws8
>>320414017
>Ground Control
>tfw this is the first time you've ever seen it mentioned on /v/
sweet jesus I had no idea other people had even heard of this gem
>>>320417214
It's... different. Still good, the visuals are absolutely gorgeous. Some goofy voice acting and the story is kinda eh at times. Infantry is godmode unless you play the mod that lets you play as the Terran Empire (it also balances the game more evenly).
Some pretty neat alien units to play with, even if it seems kinda odd to not play as the humans if you're into HFY shit like I am.
also
>not liking order of the new dawn
nigga the medium hoverdynes are the best unit in the entire game and they look like dope ass space cadillacs with plasma cannons, couple them with the rape-tastic drone carrier and some templar torpedo infantry and you'll see the opposition just melt away completely
>>320423461
The raiders were so cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWr0Ei1ePN0
There music was amazing as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VlgYgN8qos
>>320423638
hope?
shit died when it got picked up by gearbox
oh who am i kidding
youre probably going to shill this game when it come out for free because youre a dumb frogposter
Anybody who will buy a Gearbox game is a fucking retard and the cancer killing this industry
fuck you all, you people never learn
>>320423824
Music of the Keepers?>Money money money money money... Money money money money money...
Question.
Who was bombarding higaara at the end of HW2?
>>320423814
>the mod that lets you play as the Terran Empire
there was a mod who added them? link please
>>320424194
The Vaygr
>>320422567
>tfw we will never get our shit together, build great steel beasts strapped to chemical boosters
Well, I mean
Part of the reason for that is because, as it turns out, that's exactly the worst way to actually go about that.
We're working on it though.
>>320424194
Makaan's mostly-united Vaygr, using old prototype Taiidan atmospheric-destruction launchers. The same launchers that were later miniaturized and installed on the ships that destroyed Kharak.
>>320421418
Because
1) Shit's expensive as fuck
2) Contrary to popular belief, there's still plenty of planet left here. It's better to take care of what we have now, than fuck up some new planet
3) We ARE going to Mars. The plans are underway and we'll be there within the next 15 years.
>>320424530
Fuck off Nixon
>>320421746
>>320418956
>>320419232
>>320421273
>>320416698
>>320419563
I just didn't like Cataclysm, it wasn't what I wanted from a HW game.
What I loved most about homeworld was its story and its aesthetic, and cataclysm's ship designs and overall aesthetic felt like the weakest entries in the series
>>320414858
how the fuck is 2 > remaster
I could understand (although disagree with) Cat > 1 > Remaster > 2
but 2 > Remaster straight up makes no sense to me
>>320424254
Look on moddb for the GC2 Reversal mod and enjoy hoverdynes again.
>this is a game from 2004
those graphics
>>320423824
>>320423719
>playing starmade
>flying around mining asteroids and exploring planets
>listening to custom space playlist I made.
>suddenly multiple red blips appear on my radar
>Space pirates start attacking me.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VlgYgN8qos starts playing
>mfw
>>320424037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3YmmPM5ohw
How bout that Bentusi theme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4T22CMOeBE
>>320417139
Gearbox is handling mostly publishing shit, Blackbird Interactive is handling nearly 100% of technical and creative development-- they're made up almost entirely of previous Homeworld devs
that being said anthony burch don't even fucking look at the title of my goddamn game
>>320424851
If that's the case why the hell is there a bunch of ground war shit during the expedition?
Looks like typical Gearbox meddling retcon bullshit to me.
>>320423814
Ground Control 2 and the HW series are my all time favourite RTS's because of their de-emphasizing the parts I hate the most in RTS's: resource gathering and base building
>>320424851
>publishers don't make stupid demands of the development team and ruin games
>>320424851
He doesnt work at Gearbox anymore.
>>320425000
>If that's the case why the hell is there a bunch of ground war shit during the expedition?
What are they supposed to make a game out of? Do you want a Homeworld point and click adventure?
>>320423859
>>320423351
>>320424021
>don't play games, judge them based on e-celeb drama surrounding their publishers!
neo-/v/ and the lets-play generation
playing games is a thing of the past, the games themselves are irrelevant.
>>320425074
they are literally publishing a game already developed by an autonomous studio after leasing them the IP for the franchise the idea was birthed from
>>320425121
Gee, I dunno, maybe the literally hundreds to thousands of years of clan warfare BEFORE the Daiamid was founded? The expedition that uncovered the Khar-Toba took place after the clans were already united by the Nabaal and living in peace. This massive warfare shit taking place while they're exploring the Khar-Toba is a bullshit retcon.
>>320425378
Really no reason to go that far back in the timeline.
>>320425230
>i cant control myself i have to got my toy
grow the fuck up kiddo
any self respecting person would never support gearbox, but since gamers are mostly kids who dont care about anything they still somehow exists as a publisher
>Try to play Cataclysm
>Go into build menu
>Horrible laggy mess, can't click anything except get out
>Can't issue any commands/orders
>No fix or much talk about it other than other people having the same problem
>Not even a "pm me for fix" or "I fixed it!"
>>320424784
>Wanting aesthetic instead of gameplay
They were mining ships, they were supposed to be kind of shoddy looking to add to the atmosphere.
Also he may be referring to that the remaster has worse voice overs, and maybe a couple of other changes I don't know about, I haven't played the remaster.
>>320424851
Birch is gone I think.
>>320425494
There really was no reason to go back in the timeline period, bucko.
>>320425716
yes there wasmoney
>>320421893
It's more of a problem of getting it to run properly unless you kept a win98/xp machine around.
>>320425378
maybe they are corperations fighting over salvaging rights to wreaks discovered after the Kar-toba?
We know little about the game so far so we don't have much to go on.
>>320424784
The Beast in Cataclysm was cool though. Cataclysm felt like a Horror-RTS for some reason, I guess its because of how they describe the beast infection in detail.
It got worse when I got to the mission where I have to protect a convoy of civilian ships from beast cruise missiles. thank god for Drone Frigates.
>>320425842
What part of "the expedition to the Khar-Toba happened after the Kiith were already united under the Daiamid" don't you understand?
>>320425000
>war shit during the expedition
The intro for HW1 was somewhat vague on the expedition, there was probably a war going on when they found the wreck of the starship, and when the other kiiths (or kiths?) found out, they probably wanted that technology for themselves.
I guess the main faction or clan were playing as in this homeworld game is gonna be Kiith S'jet.
>>320425230
>I dont care Apple supports child labor, i need my iphone.
Hey, at lest ipad is alright, r-right?
Still if you think this reality of modern commercialism is anything to be happy about then i just feel bad for you.
Having no moral backbone or dignity is just the worst.
Then again i am hypocrite, but fuck me if it ever will be my selling point at a date or anything.
>>320425964
I'm implying its not during the expedition. Maybe its after the Kar-Toba expedition and people were starting to uncover more wreaks in the desert. You also have the religious fanatics that don't want the Kushans to return to the stars. They may be attacking expeditions out into the desert to recover wreaks.
>>320421273
I really liked watching the mining ship slowly turn into a weapon of war.
>>320425000
the game was in development in this capacity, announced by blackbird interactive, at least a year before gearbox announced what they were doing with the IP and even longer before gearbox reached out to them to say they could use the IP for their game.
There was ground war shit because the discovery of the guidestone and the subsequent race to leave the barren planet was heavily argued among the kiith; there were rebellions and sabotages, hell on the day of the launch there was a guy who ran under the engines as they were firing up as a final act of protest. Knowing anything about the actual game's story would have answered this for you.
>>320425810
>>320425494
>>320425716
The actual reason is that this was originally a standalone game not directly tied to HW being put together by a handful of Relic expats; they kept their scope small, and designed their game around the sudden resurgence in interest surrounding RTS's that was taking place thanks to a bunch of kickstarted games. At some point, after GB acquired the HW IP and announced what they were doing with it, they wound up being able to put the HW name on it. Keeping the work they did, they refocused and wrote the story to connect it with the canon.
>>320425950
It makes perfect sense, and the idea was really cool, it's purely a personal thing that I wasn't sold on its departure from a more grand, historical/borderline-mythical retelling style to a focused, immediate horror.
>>320426210
>>320425505
I support developers and work that I like. I support the team making this game. I like that they are continuing in the tradition of making games that look uniquely gorgeous and expect them to have made something that plays as intuitively as the HW series did. That's what you call "having no moral backbone or dignity." Your argument seems to be that in order to have dignity I should be more invested in the commercial aspect of the game than the actual game itself. How's that less consumerist?
>>320426210
except, you know, the opposite
because instead of caring about the brand (gearbox | apple)
what matters is who's making it (the original HW team | not fucking children)
nj sinking your argument with your own retarded analogy
