>Boss returns as a random encounter
>it's stronger
There's nothing wrong with it.
It's to show just how much stronger your character got, and at the same time saving a cool enemy design from being wasted.
This only happens to early game bosses, which are usually rather simplistic encounters and aren't important story characters or anything.
>boss returns as a standard enemy
>you've only killed one other boss since
source on gif
>>320353285
Eureka 7
>>320353273
I liked how they did it in Bloodborne. The boss version is beefier and has a much bigger moveset.
Super Mario RPG did it right. Bosses way stronger than their previous forms were constantly being made like they were nothing. Just imagine what would of happened if smithy invaded.
>>320353239
Fuck off, Horii.
>>320353649
But Smithy DID invade.
It was the first movie after slapping Bowser's shit.
>>320353574
They did this in Bloodborne? Is it in the DLC?
>>320352898
>Standard enemy returns as a boss
>>320353273
I only just realized around last month that they were lizards and that the part on their necks weren't helmets.
>>320353958I just realized this when I went on google to grab a picture of them.
>>320353916
Fucking Yoshi's Island.
>>320352898
>Boss joins your party and is significantly weaker
>>320354018
>>320353958
Holy shit, you're right
>>320353780
Ah you know what I mean. Him invading with his entire army and not just some of his goons.
>return to the first level later on to hunt for missed secrets, weapons and collectibles
>dozens of the end level boss now roam the entire area in packs
Fucking why
>>320352898
>It's weak as shit because of how strong you've become
>You style all over the little bitch
>The game acknowledges how badass you've become
>friendly NPC is now boss enemy
>>320354413
what game. that sounds interesting.
or are you just making shit up?
>>320354483
Transformers on PS2.
ty based dark souls
>>320352898
This is a good thing
fuck your gay ass for not liking it
>>320354359
>Second encounter with a boss
>But this time it's on fire
>>320353792
I think hes talking about the Labyrinth bosses. They're usually the first floor's boss.
>>320354403
You mean the ones he was making when you finally caught up to him?
I suppose.
Otherwise he did. Only actual town that was really free of his bullshit was Nimbus Land (Thought about this, but Marrymore is less of a town and more of a tourist site). Everything else got hit to some extent. Don't forget that he also took over bowser's troops as well.
>final boss shows up in an early game
>he's not scaled down
>>320354603
Kingdom Hearts?
You have a rival character where would you want the final fight to be?
>defeated boss becomes more powerful
>>320354604
Oh, like the Keeper. I never think of the chalice bosses.
>>320354710
>in an early game
As in early in the game, or in an earlier game?
>>320354710
Hello El Shaddai
>>320354824
Early game, minus "an".
>>320354603
Bravo, Drakengard.
>>320354429
Sauce on dat ass?
>boss can appear before you at any time when you're in its dungeon
>>320352898
>Compile_Heart.jpg
>Final Boss of 1st game is your ally (kinda) in the 2nd
>>320355096
>the second game never comes out
GOLVELIUSSSSSSSS
>a boss fight you're supposed to lose
>you can win
>JRPG
>save side quests for the end
>it turns out that you're supposed to do side quests as soon as they're available since the enemies and bosses are a walk in the park by the end
>>320354951
>Game has a bunch of upgradable weapons
>Nearly every boss fight has you riding your dragon so you don't get to utilize your weapons against the bosses
Why did they do that?
>enter the boss battle chamber
>cannot exit until/unless boss is defeated first
>go to stab boss with sword
>*clink*
>........
>*clink-clink-clink*
>...............fuck.
>>320355339
>boss instantly kills your party
>it's probably scripted so you're supposed to lose for story reasons
>it's not
>>320352898
But that's a great thing and a staple in most rpgs since the beginning of video games, you fucking underage fag.
>>320355555
>When anon gets five fives
>>320355384
>try and save side quests for the end, before you fight the final boss
>story event happens just before final boss, making side quests permanently unavailable
Fuck you, Final Fantasy VIII
>>320355510
That is the worst shit.
They literally just made the boss retardedly strong for no good reason.
Even worse is when the boss after him is easy as shit, and not even in comparison to the past guy, he's just really that weak. Either that or he's actually at a "level" you should consider a fair challenge, but after the past bullshit, nothing else comes close.
>>320355384
>>320355621
Who does story quests before cleaning up side quests? What's wrong with you people?
>>320355339
>boss fight you are supposed to loose
>Don't know that
>Waist all your good potions and items.
EVERY TIME
>>320355516
Tennis for Two only had one enemy, you dipshit.
>>320355720
People who hate long ass fetch quests for one.
LOOKING AT YOU MEGAMAN ZX YOU SACK OF SHIT
>>320354603
>Boss has a fat ass
>>320352898
>One of the low level enemies have a significantly stronger variant as an optional boss/rare encounter
>>320355743
A good "fight you're supposed to lose" requires the player to actually hold their ground for a while.
>JRPG
>you fight the same boss a few time throughout the game
>they get stronger and have new abilities for each fight
>peaceful-looking enemy
>attack it
>it goes absolutely berserk and rips you to pieces
>fight monsters
>boss is a fucking normal animal
>it rapes you
>>320355956
Makes sense, but you have to admit it is a little annoying loosing some of those items.
>>320356191
Well, I'd say it's better than hoarding those consumables and never using them up until the last boss, or even never using them.
>Convince the boss to not fight you
>>320355720
Well, let's take Bethesda games for an excellent example.
You have five active missions on your roster, and you'd like to take care of a couple of them, so you pick the side mission (B) you acquired as a stepping stone while you were continuing the main mission (A). You accidentally stop to talk to an NPC and pick up another mission (C) by mistake, and so have to cross the entire province you're in to complete it.
By the time you're done with that first side mission, you've got an extra six missions for the one you completed. Like, I love Skyrim and everything, but damn.
>>320356408
Bad example. Open world games are designed in the way so you would be able to complete everything in post-game.
>>320356391
>Fallout 1
>>320356408
>Fuck Content
I mean it's not like Bethesdaor Obsidianproduce quality content, but if you've already resigned yourself to it you may as well get your money's worth.
>tfw speedran FO4's plot
What a joke. I'm not a fan of the term fanfic tier, but that shit was worse. The Goddamn current season of South Park has a more interesting plot than FO4.
>>320356523
Maybe, but it's definitely a good example of watching who you talk to.
Perhaps a better idea is, "if you try doing too many side quests at once in a Final Fantasy or Tales Of game, you lose track of what the fuck is going on anymore." Since those games usually don't set up reminders for what you were doing the last time you played.
>>320356061
>>320356775
Well, I haven't played Tales Of, but in FF there's usually not really many side quests, if any.
And yeah, of course, in games without a quest log or a journal of any kind, it's harder to keep track of what quests you have currently active.
That's where good old pen and paper come in. More games should make the player make notes on their own, without relying on magic compass and shit. Of course, this should be used in moderation as well.
>>320353916
Minish Cap, 1st boss.
>>320357087
>Tales Of
Sorry, I meant the games in that series like Tales of Symphonia, Tales of Zesteria, Tales of the Abyss, etc. It's just like in Final Fantasy--if you want to get the Ultimate Fucking Weapon, you need to kill x number of each monster first, and nothing anywhere tells you how many you've gotten or where you need to go. Then there are others in which talking to certain people unlocks special parts of the map or something, but doesn't say who you've talked to. Leads to a lot of frustration and aggravation when the papers I jot down the info on get lost.
Oh, another that pops up in Final Fantasy games sometimes
>inexplicable final bosses completely unrelated to the rest of the story, are never brought up before anywhere in the plot and are never mentioned again
>boss's final sliver of life triggers surprise QTE
>Playing hard mode
>Haven't played in a while dump all my bullets into him
>Many deaths later hijack his floating pod and punch him in the face to death
>>320357620
>if you fail, you take massive damage and the boss regains health
>>320358387
>>320357620
>if you fail, you have to redo the whole fight all over
People like to complain about QTEs, because they're just button mashing, too easy, and take no actual skill to beat the boss. But when something like this happens, I think this kind of people lose their right to complain if they fail.
>led to expect some grand fucking final battle against the massed forces of darkness, etc
>ends up only being a cutscene with dialogue choices and no actual fighting
mfw
>>320353958
>>320354359
Those armor pieces on the neck are pretty dumb.
>>320356391
>>320356694
>New Vegas
>>320359594
>"I have never heard of plate armor designed to protect the throat"
>tfw having to explain what a gorget is to some fagtron on the internet
>boss appears as a normal enemy before you fight him
This annoyed me in DQV. That bishop was the antagonist for more of the game and you end up fighting several recolors of him before you fight him..Cheapened it a bit
>kill difficult boss
>there's a part 2
>doesn't automatically heal hp and sp
i wasn't even underleveled
>final boss is sudoku
>>320362078
>final boss is crossword puzzle
