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already done? didn't nomura just started working on it after e3?
wtf.
People paid money to play the FFXV demo.
People will pay money for this too.
It will end when you escape Midgar.
>>320229652
Where did you get that information? Lol
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Doesn't that just mean the story
>>320229510
By main scenario, don't they mean they figured out what plot points they are going to hit and where this part is ending? Shouldn't they have figured that out a while ago?
>>320229510
>Rushed
You know that it's only going to be like 6 hours of gameplay, right?
>>320229845
>>320229856
PART ONE IS FINISHED AND IS READY TO SHIP!
ENJOY YOUR SHOVELWARE, BOIS!
>>320229759
he had an interview after the announcement of ff7
Square Enix and Telltale Games presents: Final Fantasy 7
1: Midgar
2: Kalm to Junon
3: Costa del Sol to Cosmo Canyon
4: Nibelheim to Rocket Town and Wutai
5: Temple of the Ancients to Aeris' death
6: Icicle Inn to Crater
7: Escape from Junon and Search for Cloud
8: The search for the Huge Materia and return of Cloud
9: Diamond Weapon and the Midgar Raid
10: The Final Battle with Sephiroth
Each episode 5-10 hours (full game by 2015 standards) of on-rails padded-out cutscene hallways with no sidequests, exploration, secrets or access to other episode content, culminating in "To be continued" cliffhangers. $20-30 each, 1 episode per year. Please look forward to it.
>>320229972
11: the final battle with sephiroth part 2
Main scenario is done. On a remake. So they've typed out the story for first part of a game where they already know the story. What's special here?
>>320229510
Square are so confused about the "process" of their games. Its like they cant properly schedule their shit and make announcements about the process of it every 2 weeks.
>>320229972
Fucking pathetic
>mfw Materia can only be leveled up by spending Midgar-Coins purchased from the in game store with real money
DEFEND THIS, FAGGOTS???
I wasn't following any of this, but are they really splitting the game up into parts? I thought it was just a dumb joke.
>>320230263
its not a joke. its very very real
HOLY SHIT it's just going to be the bombing mission HOLY SHIT there's going to be 20+ $59.99 episodes of this garbage HA HA HA HA
>>320230252
Okay. It's not going to happen. Stop being a fucking retard. I could have gone
>mfw the combat system is entirely removed and it's just hours upon hours of bad opera singing and cutscenes
How can you possibly release an RPG in episodes.
People will finish their first episode and overlevel their characters to high heavens until the next comes out. Or they will just stack on potions and whatever item by farming gil.
It's dumb as shit. How will they prevent this? Capping levels to episodes? Fucking awful.
I'm gonna laugh if these get priced at $60-70
This game is going to be so shit, like hot damn.
If I would be a classic FF7-fan, I'd have a brain aneurysm by now.
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>>320230365
Anon renember each episode is like a full gamemotherfuckers
>>320229950
>That'll be 59.99 for part one please
>>320230460
>Each episode is a full game
>Every episode will have you level and obtain characters from scratch
Ayy lmao
>>320230539plus tip
>>320230450
I don't CARE about FFVII! I never got past the chocobo races fucking years ago and I wasn't all invested then either! If this project didn't have any announcements it would be "Dead" since it has them it's "Rushed" there's no middle ground. Just let the fucking thing come out in 15 episodes and fucking get it over with!
>>320229510
>one scenario
>one fraction of the first part of a multi part series is complete
how is this a surprise to any of you
retards
They said "The scenario is done" given this is a remake of a game released over 10 years ago, I'd be worried if the scenario wasn't done!
>hey we are doing a remake
>we are done writing the script!
so they are ruining the story too
>>320230743
>given this is a remake of a game released over 10 years ago
anon this game is fucking 20 years old
>Gold Saucer Pack - Access to all Gold Saucer games any time you want. Comes with 1000 GP for FREE. 14.99
>Gambler's Pack - 5000 GP to spend on exclusive items at the Gold Saucer, 4.99
>Summoner's Pack - One set of Neo-Bahamut, Bahamut-ZERO and Knights of the Round materia, usable in all episodes, 6.99
>Weapon Pack - Sunken Gelnika optional dungeon, plus Ruby and Emerald Weapon boss fights, only 9.99
>>320230365
In FF4TAY there's a level cap on each episode (tough there was also a post-game on each episode which I found interesting), in FFD there's a cap on job level but not on character level.
>>320230794
They have already admitted they are explore (read: pad out) the story a lot more. Probably to stretch out the assets as much as possible and make more $20-30 episodes.
They should have focused on the better FF instead.
Final fantasy IV+ IV
>>320229510
Do you think they only started working on it on E3 weekend?
Wake me up when they've redone this scene.
They just have to take story from original and improve it so it doesn't really take that much time compared to writing a story from the ground up.
>>320230843
Oh SHIT where did all the time go?!
>>320230913
>Companion Pack - Vincent and Yuffie can be used as playable party members 6.99
>Phoenix Down Pack - Aeris and Zack can be used as playable party members 5.99
>Crossover Pack - Lightning and Tidus can be used as playable party members 14.99
>>320229652
No.
He said they started work it it at around the same time as the Steam port of FF7..
But the game is trash, it's an ARPG.
>>320230913
You forgot one.
>Don Corneo Pack - Explore the world of the Final Fantasy VII Remake series with the costumes worn by Cloud, Tifa, and Aerith in Don Corneo's mansion for $4.99.
>>320229972
>>320230086
10. Final Battle
11. Super Nova Animation
12. Rest of fight
I've been thinking about it.
They can't possibly make more than 2 parts.
part 1 midgar
part 2 the rest of the game.
Anything more than that is pure milking.
>>320229972
If each episode is truly 5-10 hours...this will be a great game eventually. With all parts included.
>>320229510
>They started developing it when they announced it at E3
People who think this are actually retarded.
>>320230365
FF13-3 only gives you items and gil from killing enemies but no exp. All "exp" is gained from quests.
And besides, autists already level cap their characters in the first zone in full games so I don't see how that is an issue in the first place.
>>320231169
What? You really think the Midgar section is HALF of the original game? Are you stupid?
>>320230995
Holy shit the shadow on his chest just fucking disappears at 1:10. I never noticed that before.
>>320231313
My fucken dick disapeared into your moms pussy last night m8
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>>320230197
>guy made up some bullshit
>other people take it as facts
Are you shitting me
Also no shit scenario is done, it's been almost done for 18 years already
How can some people be so fucking retarded
>>320231271
I would be okay if they had it in 3 parts like they did with the original. Anymore than that is really just milking the dosh.
>>320231176
>Proceed to next episode
>Character levels aren't the same
>All my items and materia configs from the last episode have been reset
>Can only use certain party members
>Try to go back the way I came, "No need to go back there."
>Try to go off the story path, nothing to find
>Try to explore ahead, "Please purchase next episode"
Episodic, not even once.
>>320231364
On snap son that bitch just got fukken shrek'd amirite?
>>320231271
They can make midgar way larger and easily make a 30 hour game out of it.
>>320229510
This is going to be a disaster
Can't wait
>>320231489
[citation needed]
>>320229510
Scenario being complete means literally nothing, that is the first thing you set before you actually make the game.
>>320231448
Not going to happen, considering you explore most of the world in the first disc in the original. There would be no need to release the game in installments if they were going to do that.
Also Disc 3 barely has anything on it, it's just the final battle basically. Each disc pretty much contained the entire game, with only different cutscenes and a slight variation in accessible areas.
>>320231364
Oh we have a tough guy here huh....... *unsheathes my twin katanas* Well, let's see how tough you really are! *jumps into the air* TAAAAKE THIIIIIIIIIIIIS *spins around and slashes your face open* Not so tough now, huh????? *grabs you and throws you up* It's time to finish this little charade *holds my katanas above my head* YOU ARE FINIIIIISHEEEEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!! *jumps upwards so that you get impaled on my swords* Heh.... easy.....
>>320231545
GAME IS READY TO SHIP CONFIRMED, FAGGOT
>>320231115
>Sephiroth wants to use Super Nova.
>Please insert Disc 11.
After the attack
>Please insert Disc 12
>>320229758
The XV demo was free with Type-0 HD
Just like the FF7 demo was free with Tobal No1
Just like the FF8 demo was free with Musashi
Just like the FF10 demo was free with FF6 PS1 port
Just like FF12 demo was free with DQ8
Just like FF13 demo was free with ACC
>>320231220
>All "exp" is gained from quests.
That would be a fucking awesome way of doing it. So you have to do as much unique shit as you can and can't grind.
>>320231529
Please Anon. I need this. I want to believe. Can you recommend the episodic games you've played that are not like what you quoted?
>>320231545
This, it's little more than the scenario writer + fucking storyboarding.
>>320229972
Dont forget the eventual special, delux, version withhalfof all the chapters in one game. Followed about a year later by the special, delux, complete edition with all the chapters together.
>>320231636
The only reason Type-0 sold was people buying the XV demo.
Nobody gives a shit about Type-0 and if they did they had already played it before it was released on PS4.
>>320231115
I would actually love it if they made a huge animation for Super Nova. Like it lasts for 30 minutes or something.
>>320229972
You forgot some senpai
11: Jenova Absolute
12: Bizarro Sephiroth part 1
13: Bizarro Sephiroth part 2
14: Safer Sephiroth part 1
15: Safer Sephiroth part 2
16: The entire animation of Super Nova itself
17: All of the side quests
18: Ruby Weapon
19: Emerald Weapon
20: Trailer for FF7-2: Advent Children: Part 1
This is how you correctly shitpost desu senpai
>>320229510
I thought they said in an interview when the second trailer came out that the crossdressing wasn't even complete
Do they really work that fast or are the episodes going to be pathetically short?
>>320229510
Most of the mechanics are probably directly lifted from XV so that'd save a lot of time
>>320231649
I've never heard of episodic games that ARE like you quoted because episodic games so far weren't RPGs. My point is that you're making shit up because you're a jaded, broken person who can't accept that maybe not literally everything is terrible. Consider suicide, it'll be good for you
>>320231714
Having another 2+ minute long attack isn't out of the question, Super Robot Wars still does it and those games are low budget as fuck
>>320231607
*teleports behind you*
AHA!!!
>>320231806
Looks more like Versus XIII then XV.
>>320231802
Part 1 probably isn't going to be out until 2017, for the game's actual 20th anniversary
>>320231509
>30 hour game out of it
With a ton of optional content, hopefully.
>>320231607
*it was a hologram*
>it's a barret keks dyne episode
Remember the .hack games on PS2, and how they reused assets and hardly added anything new in each installment? And still wanted you to pay full price for it?
CC2 will do the same with this, mark my words.
>>320231847
This. Lots of ideas that didn't make it to XV will be put into VII:R.
>>320231364
Anon this is a christian vietnamese imageboard please watch what you say. Thanks.
>>320231081
>Steam port
That was two years ago, wasn't it? That's about the time that I thought they would take. It has to be only Midgar then and probably only 10 hours at the most.
Looks like four parts is going to be pretty accurate. Now to see if every part is going to be at full price or not.
>>320229856
Yes. The main scenario being done says literally nothing at all about the actual dev progress.
>>320230843
That only compounds my point.
>>320231607
Fufufufufufu!
Attacking my mirage double???? Amature!
And Ithought you were a REAL fighter! Hmph!
*turns back on you*
Not even a challenge!
>>320231847
I don't understand, i thought XV was just a name change
>>320231704
And? The only reason any of those other games sold was because they came with FF demos for the new mainline FF, DQ8 did not sell because it was DQ, it sold because it came with FF12 demo, Tobal didn't sell 700k because it was Tobal, it sold 700k because it came with FF7 demo
>Nobody gives a shit about Type-0
Right that's why there was massive fan demand to get it localized with a dedicated operation movement just for that alone, one that was successful which SE themselves stated is why they decided to bring over Type-0 in the demo.
>if they did they had already played it before it was released on PS4.
Only because the fan translation came out the same day that SE announced they would release Type-0 HD
The fan translators knew SE was going to released Type-0 in the west and wanted to beat SE to the punch, in fact the public already knew almost a whole year before the fan translation was done that SE was going to release Type-0 in the west because Tabata said so himself in 2013 that they are still going to do it, then 7 months later SE announced it
The fan translation team was going to release their patch in August 2014 which would have been 2 months after SE revealed Type-0 HD officially for the west, but one of the translators leaked the patch 2 months early against everyone elses wishes on the team, and then they kicked him out
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>>320231832
I hope it'll be a 3/4 minute long CGI cutscene
>>320229845
Yes, scenario is what they call story. So it's the main story of part 1 that is completed, which is pretty much what I expected them to do in 2 years time. Now it's just going to be the side quest stuff and they will probably release it sometime next year.
>>320229510
>rushed
>they literally said they were working on it for 3 years before announcing it at E3
>still not out
>almost July again
Almost 4 years of work for probably a quarter of a full game and just the WRITING being done, not the actual game, is "rushed"?
>>320231951
I doubt they're that Jewish, but still pretty Jew.
I'm betting each part will be $39.99.
>>320231714
They could integrate it as a mid-form change cutscene. Would make it a lot less silly too, considering how easy it is to make it through that attack.
>>320231806
Not a single thing is from XV, it's not the same engine, gameplay or even dev team.
>>320231847
No it doesn't at all
XV still has the same Noctis system it always had as Versus and they've only expanded upon that, only the other characters were changed to a gambit system
7R plays nothing like Versus or XV
>>320231921
They are not even the same gameplay systems so no
7R doesn't have character switching just because XV doesn't, it has it because every character is on equal footing just like in Type-0 or DQH, it has nothing to do with XV or Versus
Are people still complaining about episodic releases?
Would you rather they released it on one disc and cut out/skimmed over a lot of content? Of course you wouldn't.
I'm sure you'll say otherwise, since I'm using logic and /v/ has to be contrarian and go against the grain for trolling/baiting.
>ITT what is a scenario?
>The legendary becomes real
The legendary WHAT
>can't into fucking basic english
>>320232131
That's also 4 contained stories, and each is over 60-80 hours long. FFVI as a whole was about a 50-60 hour game, unless you got really into chocobo racing.
>>320231921
Considering it plays nothing like Versus and it's some weird-ass action/ATB hybrid instead, I highly doubt that.
>>320232131
God those games were shit. Is your post in support of or against episodic content? I really can't tell.
Also, do you actually think .hack became the model for how episodic content is handled today? Also also, do you actually think FFVII can (better question: should) be broken up in that manner?
>>320232181
>Not a single thing is from XV
The crawling under rubble and sliding along a wall were the EXACT animations from XV you faggot
>>320232197
>Would you rather they released it on one disc and cut out/skimmed over a lot of content?
And why would this happen again? Do you realize how much data a BD can hold?
>>320232298
>and each is over 60-80 hours long
You could finish a part of the original .hack in 15 hours or even less.
The only thing left to do was just grinding for rare items
>>320231714
>Sephiroth's Super Nova has it's own plot and characters.
>>320232128
>quarter of a full game
It's like, an eight of the game at most.
VII is being remade in an episodic release because the last thing Square needs is a 3rd game to be a console generation in the making
>>320229510
I mean they most likely just model swapped the FF15 engine brehs
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>>320229856
>>320232218
Don't expect any sense to be had in this thread, guys. It's all just shitposters looking to get their jollies.
>Scenario already exists since 1997
>They take a portion of it and change it around a bit to be more modern or have some connection to BC/CC/AC
>Still need to work on everything else like maps, animations, and coding.
Part 1 will either deal with everything up to the Highway chase, in order to get the game out faster since there is no world map before this.
Or it will go all the way up to Nibelheim.
Though in my opinion part 1 will be midgar only since they'll just add tons of fluff since it is the largest area and also very linear compared to the rest of the game. I wouldn't be surprised if it's out late next year.
>>320232197
>he actually believed the PR bullshit about having to cut out content
The multipart release is for one reason and one reason only: they can make more money off of it. There's a reason they're pushing the "each part is basically a full game" narrative. You're going to be paying out of your ass to play this game in its entirety.
>>320232414
Do you realise that they want to make each release the size of an actual game? You couldn't possibly fit everything onto one disc.
>>320232298
>60-80 hours long
olololololo
>>320232446
>Super Nova becomes an award winning film
People are fooling themselves if they think the first release will go beyond Midgar.
>>320232351
The thing here is that .hack was made by CyberConnect2, the company that is also helping make the FF7 Remake.
If there is one thing they know how to do, it's how to carry over save data between games.
>>320232621
I think you're fooling yourself :^)
>>320231081
>It's an ARPG
>It features ATB
Get your shitposting facts together, boi.
>>320232367
No it fucking isn't you retard, they are similar animations that countless fucking games do these days
Go and actually watch the animation because they are NOT the same fucking animation, completely different leg, arm and crouch movement between them.
XV is being made Luminous Engine by Business Division 2 inside Square Enix
7R is being made Unreal Engine 4 by Business Division 1 and CyberConnect 2
They are not the same fucking team, engine or anything between them.
XV is still using the same Noctis gameplay from Versus, only the other party members were modified to use Gambit AI
7R does not use either the Versus or XV system, 7R is using a menu based combat with a reverse ATB bar that depletes constantly over time and fills up only by inputting commands
>>320232298
>>320230365
.hack G.U. was one game split into three and it worked just fine.
Emerald and Ruby weapon will be included as DLC , when you go to fight them , a giant dollar sign will be floating in the water or the sand.
>>320232414
>>320232539
It has nothing to do with disc size you idiots. It's about production time. They want to get some of this out for the actual 20th anniversary clearly, and no one wants this turning into another project that comes out a whole console generation later than the one it was announced for.
>>320230365
Trails is an episodic RPG too.
>>320232539
>each release the size of an actual game?
And how exactly are they accomplishing this? What facts do you have? FF7 has a fixed plot, they can only go so far before the plot moves forward. Compress the audio and it would be fine, unless you seriously think FF7 is worth of being a 120GB+ game with compressed audio.
>>320232537
If they wanted to make quick and easy money, they'd release the full thing next year and be done with it.
The fact that they're putting a lot of time and effort into each release shows that they actually want to give people a product worth the money they're paying for.
>>320232621
I'm expecting the first release to be an expanded version of Midgar that ends when you escape.
There'll probably be something like 3 or 4 parts in the end. They compared the releases to the Lightning trilogy or something like .hack, not fucking TellTale's format.
>>320232661
It features a new form of "ATB" that is an ARPG.
It has AI party members because in the video you can see cloud and barret moving and attacking at the same time.
He also mentioned "switching control of characters and you not being limited to cloud"
Which means you don't control every single action everyone takes.
>>320232740
>What facts do you have?
The same thing can be applied to people who say it's going to be few hours long and shit.
Nomura said full-release long so I'd wager 20-30h each episode. If it's released at 40€ price point it's pretty fair.
Cant wait to speedrun this
>>320232795
You actually still think companies, Square Enix in particular, have their customer's best interests at heart. Cute.
Reminder the remake of arguably Square's most popular game of all time isn't even being developed in house.
>>320230365
>>320232740
>how exactly are they accomplishing this?
By putting in more places to explore, more sidequests, more story quests, more things to do, etc.
>>320232129
I'd say $19.99
>>320232847
You literally don't know what the fuck an ARPG is.
What kind of a fucking ARPG uses DEFEND menu command?
>It has AI party members because in the video you can see cloud and barret moving and attacking at the same time.
What does this have to do with being an ARPG? Or did you fade out XII's existence out of your mind? Or do you think it's an ARPG too?
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>>320232801
It's definitely going to be Midgar. Part 1 is going to be like XIII before you gained access to the world map. Except they'll let you actually explore the city.
Didnt nomura say last week he isnt sure how they are going to handle the crossdressing yet?
How does this make any sense?
>>320232921
You joke, but it'll probably be on AGDQ at some point
>>320232351
It's to say how they would handle leveling. It was a level cap, which SE has done before with multi part games.
It's entirely possible that they would do this, but I would hope not. It isn't like you can't just make it tedious to level up past what you want people to be at for a certain area. At like level 20 Midgar enemies start to only give you like 50 experience out of 10,000 you need to level and it just gets more ridiculous after that.
Might as well call it a soft level cap. Other then that, the .hack games are kind of weird because of their MMO simulation gameplay. All 'content' was basically available to you at the start and later episodes contained all previous areas.
CC2 knows how to handle the "we need to bring over ALL gameplay data" between games, consistency is paramount.
Also, you act like it isn't possible to break a game like FF7 up when it was already pretty broken up to begin with. All they need to do is have the final game have every location open to you and previous games only need to have certain locations open because the rest you won't even be able to visit until you have later transportation methods.
>>320232847
>It features a new form of "ATB" that is an ARPG.
7Rs system is literally a reverse version of the ATB bar in LR mixed with the menus from FF7/FF12 itself.
Go and actually watch the footage, you will notice Cloud is not actually free moving around during combat, we only see him doing attack commands which are canned animations, just like in LR
It is an ATB system just with more real time elements, it's not an actual Action RPG
Not to mention it has Defend on the command menu bar which only further proves it is menu based, not an Action RPG
>>320232678
HAHAHA NEED A NAP MATE? WHY ARE YOU SO MAD ABOUT FAGGOT ASS VIDEO GAMES????
>>320232952
Not really the case
There is save file transfer that gives you bonuses, but you still start DDS2 fresh. The only thing that's remotely similar to episodic games is Heat re-recruitment
>>320232931
>Nomura + Kitase + Business Division 1
>Not in house
You're joking right? While CyberConnect 2 helps them, it doesn't mean that they're doing it on their own.
>>320232963
It's not menu based combat and that's the only good kind of combat for a party based RPG
>>320233047
Calm down, that's just FFXV-kun doing his usual thing.
>>320232931
I do, they spent millions fixing FF14 after they fucked up royally, they go out of their way to provide dual audio when other companies just give you the middle finger. They're not perfect but they've been trying more in the past few years than they were 3 or 4 years ago.
>>320232953
Okay, but that won't change the fact that the game must end at a certain plot point. This is Ground Zeroes tier logic. "It's really short but check out all the sidequests!!"
>>320232678
Didn't XV switch to Unreal Engine some time ago?
>>320229510
They are reusing and recycling VersusXIII asset to make the first part of the game.
This is the only logical reason why they were able to shat it out so fast and explain how it was possible in the first place.
>reuse VersusXIII asset to remake part 1
>use part 1 sales to make part 2
>and so on and on and on
>>320232976
No, he said it's in the game, but he hasn't made the art yet.
The only thing that is 100% done now is that they wrote down what they want to happen in the first part of the series.
>>320232730
>generation later than the one it was announced for.
This! They want it out for PS4 and we are already a bit into it's life. The last thing they want is to take 8 years to make this game and for the PS4 to be on the way out the door.
Releasing a bit every so often seems like a better plan.
>>320233074
>It's not menu based combat
It literally fucking is
Every attack, magic, item, summon, defend command you do is from the MENU
It is menu based through and through.
Watch the actual trailer footage of the combat, Cloud is not free moving like in KH or other Action RPGs, he's only doing canned animations
>>320229510
So they just got done writing the story for the FIRST chapter?
Are they going to blunder again? This looks like a typical disaster of a dev process again.
Wondering how disjointed the episodes will feel.
Square should really start writing scenario, concept work and everything BEFORE they start creating assets.
What a bunch of goofballs.
>>320232976
Scenario is just the overall plot. Specific events and various minutiae on the other hand get tweaked and adjusted almost right until the end of the development.
>>320233074
You're blind, aren't you?
>>320233128
As long as they give us more things to do, I don't give a fuck about waiting till the next release.
>>320229652
Even if that were true it's not like Nomura would have to do much. All the characters already have basic designs and the story is already written.
>>320233130
No, that was KH3.
XV is still using Luminous.
>>320233130
No.
>>320233139
>No, he said it's in the game, but he hasn't made the art yet.
What is he doing all day then?
Square should really do a design document BEFORE they start making assets and announcements.
They have a really poor workflow these days
>>320232554
>Award ceremony is held on the Supernova cutscene Earth minutes before the real supernova hits your party
>>320232521
They are going to add a bunch of side missions you can do before the sector 5 bombing, I can just feel it. They will want you to get attached to Avalanche so it feels horrible when they die, instead of the hour you get to see of them.
>>320233206
Isn't that the first thing you'd do? Like before even making ANYTHING?
So this means they dont even know how they are going to handle anything after midgard?
This sounds like a total catastrophy again.
>>320233318
He's working on KH3 too.
Also I don't understand what you're even complaining about. It's not like they finished the actual script.
Is there such a thing as an episodic game series where each subsequent episode contains all the content from all previous episodes?
Because if not, FF7 isn't going to work as episodic.
>>320233084
Seems like screwing up FF14 so hard made them wake up and realize just how pissed off they had made a lot of people. Hell they're finally bringing Dragon Quest over again, never thought I'd see that happen.
>>320233067
Considering DDS1 ends with a cliffhanger and DDS2 makes no sense without DDS1, I wouldn't call it "starting fresh". They're also mechanically and graphically identical, unlike most conventional game sequels.
>>320229510
>PART 1 is ready
>B-b-but it would take too long to make a complete game
Go fuck yourself Squix, and bring me XV already.
>>320233130
No.
When it was Versus it was using a heavily modified Crystal Tools that they dubbed Ebony Engine.
In 2011 Nomura stated they would be moving Versus to Luminous but Luminous was not done yet
In 2012 in order to help with moving Versus/XV from Ebony to Luminous, they created a DX11 version of Ebony and the intergrated some Luminous lighting tech into it
In 2013 that is what we saw at E3, DX11 Ebony with Luminous Lighting
In July 2013 that is when they fully started moving XV to Luminous by migrating all they had from the Ebony build, they integrated the entire Luminous team into the XV team to make this happen at a faster pace
And in September 2014 we finally saw XV running fully on Luminous Engine, at the time version 1.4, the demo in 2015 was Luminous 1.5 and the full game in 2016 will be Luminous 2.0
KH3 was originally in 2013 going to be Luminous too but they intergrated all the Luminous devs into the XV team to speed up development, and since KH3 had barely started they just restarted KH3 on UE4 sometime early in 2014.
FF7R is being made on UE4 for the same reason, because all Luminous devs are assigned to XV right now.
>All of the people in this thread shitting on the news either without knowing what it means, or just purposely shitting on it just to shitpost
>>320233480
No, if anything it's because they reformed and Wada was booted out.
>>320229652
there are 3 options
>1
project was being worked long ago but only revealed at E3
>2
shit is rushed as fuck and will be a buggy mess
>3
its full of quality but is short as fuck. so the game will be divided in more than just the 3 parts from back in 90s
>>320233547
I hate shitposting newfags, they don't even make it entertaining. It's just so fucking boring.
>>320233435
>He's working on KH3 too.
So what is he doing there?
They are such a mess with their fucked up production process.
Just let the man do one thing at a time and force him to draw up a design document and finished script BEFORE you do any of the heavy lifting.
>>320233441
.//hack comes to mind. Or any game with expansion packs. I don't get why people are acting like episodic = linear no turning back. It just means the game isn't going to be out all at once.
>>320233136
>They are reusing and recycling VersusXIII asset to make the first part of the game.
They aren't reusing a single fucking thing from Versus into 7R you fucking retard, it's not even the same dev team, engine, gameplay or anything.
>This is the only logical reason why they were able to shat it out so fast and explain how it was possible in the first place.
What? The game is not anywhere close to being done, the fucking SCENARIO for the FIRST PART is done, that means literally fucking nothing, story is one of the first fucking things you set during early development.
None of the assets from Versus are being used in 7R you retards
>>320233524
>autist wall of text
Hey FFXV-kun
>>320233573
You do realise that the scenario doesn't mean the game itself is ready, right?
>>320233591
Because shitposting. Just like pretty much anything concerning FF7R.
>>320233441
.hack did that. it carried over all content and saved data from previous episode into the next.
but it was also a very different ARPG.
>>320232181
>Not a single thing is from XV, it's not the same engine, gameplay or even dev team.
Actually they're reusing the engine and a lot of art assets straight down to animations. They're also reusing a lot of the nova bullshit art assets and animations as well.
FF doesn't make them much money anymore, they keep overspending and getting shit on returns. Why XIII got 2 sequels so they could reuse as much as possible to get the most bang for their buck.
The game will blow chunks. Heard it here first.
>>320231704
>Nobody gives a shit about Type-0
Wrong, fans asked for it localization.
>if they did they had already played it before it was released on PS4.
I don't believe most people speak japanese for that.
If there someone who won't pull random facts out of their ass to prove their point ????
>>320233668
You mean a factual wall of facts that you like the autist you always are desperately try to ignore by spouting "le xv kuun le boogeymen is here!?".
>>320233581
I don't know what Nomura does on a daily basis, do you?
You're complaining that they decided what they want to happen in the plot before... designing everything else? That's now how it works. You need a Scenario to know what you need to actually make.
They're not going to start designing the Highwind if it isn't even appearing in Parts 1 or 2.
>>320233674
its worst, if they are only doing the planing for the 1st chapter, shit wont be dont by 2017
>>320233751
It was being translated be a fan group and they finished their job before Squeenix did.
>>320233493
The scenario is done, you idiot. Not the first part. Learn to read.
>>320233489
>Considering DDS1 ends with a cliffhanger and DDS2 makes no sense without DDS1, I wouldn't call it "starting fresh"
I meant gameplay-wise
You start with no items, level 1, no mantra learned, downsized party, all that jazz
>>320233737
>They're reusing the engine
>XV is Luminous, 7R is Unreal Engine
????????????
>FF doesn't make them much money anymore
kek
>>320233197
Well it isn't like they have to think of the story before working on locations or anything. I would understand this line of thinking if they were working totally fresh, but this is a remake of an established game and universe. Nomura wanted to do some story rewrites and everyone else could get working on Midgar and what it should look like. They can easily meet in the center at a later time
>>320233737
>Actually they're reusing the engine and a lot of art assets straight down to animations.
No they aren't you fucking idiot
XV is using Luminous Engine
7R is Unreal Engine
None of the animations, assets or anything in 7R is from Versus or XV.
Are you fucking people blind?
>>320233645
>None of the assets from Versus are being used in 7R you retards
Look up VersusXIII gameplay video and compare it to VII-Remake and see for yourself who's the retard here.
Barret gameplay is basically Prompto with his over the shoulder review.
>>320233679
What about stuff like areas and enemies?
To be a proper remake of FF7, by the last episode you should be able to fly your airship anywhere on the world map and revisit all the towns/NPCs from previous episodes. Stuff like large-scale sidequests, chocobo breeding and secret areas just wouldn't make sense without that kind of design.
I've never heard of an episodic game like that though.
>>320233863
It's safe to say that Nomura is using his original ideas for Versus XIII in this game since he got kicked off of XV.
>>320233441
They could just require you to have the previous packs downloaded so you could backtrack and shit
>>320233792
See >>320232039
SE had already translated Type-0 back in 2012 when they were still planning to release it for PSP, but the market of PSP was dead in the west so they couldn't
That is why they waited for a new avenue to be able to bring it, and that just so happened to be as a HD port on PS4/Xbone/PC which are doing well in the west.
>>320233863
A fucking camera angle is an asset now? I guess FFXV must be reusing animations from Gears of War then.
>>320229652
it's just a reskinned unreal engine tutorial.
>>320233928
>kicked off of XV.
He didn't get kicked, he went on to focus on getting KH3 done along with FF7R.
>>320233892
Game maps are very easy. The difference data-wise on the disc will be cutscenes, audio, and earlier parts won't have the assets of the final game because they aren't done yet.
>>320233668
>anything with time and dedication is autism
Nice memes.
episodes will be "full games" just like Life Is Strange episodes are "full games". I don't expect the first "episode" of that shit to go farther than Aerith meeting at the church.
>>320233524
Because they licensed UE and use a lot of the code for Luminous. That's why they were hiring devs for UE for the FFXV team a while ago. What theyr'e using from UE is not what you think of course.
>>320233957
Just look it up yourself retard.
>its different engine
>so they can't possibly import it or anything
>>320233990
>he went on to focus on getting KH3 done along with FF7R.
Square must be a really great place to work if you can just freely decide what to work on and what not and leave projects on a whim.
Hey maybe he'll get tired of FFVIIR tomorrow, who knows?
>>320233892
>What about stuff like areas and enemies?
That did carry over too. Basically everything carried over. But those games had very contained, small maps too.
And that is probably why they could do that.
They also reused 90% of what was in the previous part. And most story progression was done in small cutscenes or text you got by email.
>>320233863
Where was the crosshair during the Barret gameplay? Why did the camera appear to be turning around him? I think you're just shitposting at this point friend.
>episodic rpg
Anyone who buys this is pure fucking cancer
Even if it's complete I doubt they'll release it now.
They have a lot of releases for Spring and Summer, so probably Fall 2016 because MUH TIMING
>>320234038
>dedicate time to autistically trying to "prove" complete strangers wrong with made up timelines of events that you have no way of knowing anyways, because it's all just PR bullshit
FFXV-kun, your autism is literally causing you to argue 10 hours per day about final fantasy on /v/ and all the threads are gone after that anways, why are you doing this with your life?
>>320233863
>Look up VersusXIII gameplay video and compare it to VII-Remake and see for yourself who's the retard here.
Nigger are you fucking retarded?
See >>320232678
Not a single fucking thing from Versus or XV is being used in 7R
A fucking camera angle means litelraly nothing, XV still has TPS with Noctis when he uses guns
Barret is not even doing TPS shooting, it's fucking canned animations from a fucking menu, that is how FF7R plays, it's a fucking menu based ATB game just with more real time elements added
It plays NOTHING like Versus or XV at all.
>>320233928
None of the things from 7R are things from Versus or XV, and he wasn't kicked off, he was assigned to direct FF7R in 2014 by Kitase which is why the higher ups had left Tabata in charge of XV since Tabata had been co-director on XV since 2012 when it actually started full development
>>320234075
Nigga Nomura has moved from being a grunt to being a director of several important games.
The basic shit was already done for XV before Nomura left XV.
>>320229972
>Strife is Strange
>>320234159
>Not a single fucking thing from Versus or XV is being used in 7R
Nomura is.
Checkmate atheists.
>>320233861
Luminous borrows heavily from UE and also the art assets and nimations are 100% compatible.
you do know art assets and animations and the like aren't tied to specific engines too right? Like I can take art assets from quake 2 and put them directly into Unreal 4 right now with very little effort. It'll look like ass cause they're quake 2 assets, but it works. There's no 'mystery' behind it.
You do know they were hiring experienced UE devs for the XV team for a reason right? That's why there were transfers from the Monty team to Japan. I mean you can continue to be dumb or you could listen to people who actually know how things work.
>>320234159
SEE WHAT?
Next time, look at the shit you quoted before you make a fool of yourself.
>>320229972
>Each episode 5-10 hours (full game by 2015 standards)
The kicker here is that it has been a standard for decades, not just the 2015 /v/ memes it up to be.
Hell, games used to have bullshit difficulty up the ass to keep them from being completed in under an hour.
>>320234150
It will be December '16 or Jan '17 at the earliest.
What we saw the other week was alpha footage at best.
>>320234167
>Nigga Nomura has moved from being a grunt to being a director of several important games.
This is so autistically retarded.
Does this make any of his work better? Was any of this stuff released so far?
A movie director also won't direct 10 movies at a time, because it would be bullshit from a productivity standpoint.
Square is a mess.
This is going to be a stinking pile of shit.
>>320234063
It's not the same fucking gameplay, engine, dev team or anything you fucking retard
7R plays nothing like what Versus or XV are doing
XV is a full fledged Action RPG with dodges, aerial combat, warps, platforming, jumps, monster limb destruction, co op moves etc
7R is a menu based ATB RPG where all your commands are input from a menu and only a canned animation plays after you choose the commands, the ATB bar always depletes and it fills up only by inputting commands
They play nothing alike, similar fucking animations mean fuck all when they play nothing alike
>>320233382
Again, no. Scenario writing is not construction work: very few things are set in stone and stuff often gets refined or added as you go. Just to give you an example: Vincent's plot in the original FFVII was not finished until the game was practically ready to ship, while Zack and Cloud's escape (a crucial event, one would think) wasn't even included in the original Japanese release.
>FFXV-kun is now also defending FFVIIR
Did he evolve?
>>320234296
Were talking about VersusXIII you fucking idiot, not XV.
>>320234047
They are not using UE with XV you idiot
XV is fully Luminous Engine, the entire Luminous Engine team was intergrated into the XV team because of that.
>>320234282
How is it a mess?
>Was any of this stuff released so far?
Kingdom Hearts? You know, the third biggest franchise Square has under their belt?
Again, XV's basic shit was already done before Nomura left it.
>>320234328
>Again, no. Scenario writing is not construction work: very few things are set in stone and stuff often gets refined or added as you go.
Just stop FFXV-kun.
You are a unemployed 30 year old man who dedicates 10 hours per day to extremely autistic shitposting on /v/ and you've been doing this for more than a year now.
What would a total complete failure at life like you know about structured work?
>>320234357
He'll defend anything his god Nomura touches. He's a complete utter fucking fantard.
He's so pathetic I think he might even be a girl. Only raging females are this dedicated.
I won't mind a more action oriented combat if they include gambits to program my allies tbqh
if it won't have gambits, I'd rather have it turn based
if it'll be anything like xenoblade it's going to suck
>>320234216
Nomura was not in any of them you fucking moron, he's a dev who is involved in dev process, not a thing inside a game, and by your logic 7R is now FF13 because Nomura was involved with that too
>>320234227
See the fucking post, see the fucking Webm
XV is still using the Versus system
7R is not using anything from Versus or XV
>>320234460
>Facts are shitposting
>Actual shitposting is facts
/v/ is literally tumblr now baka
>>320234463
>He's so pathetic I think he might even be a girl. Only raging females are this dedicated.
That thought crossed my mind too. Wasn't there some lengthy tl;dr by some retarded weeb who got sucked into some sepiroth-worshipping cult by fat lesbian dykes?
That's probably the level of mental illness we are talking here.
>>320234437
>Again, XV's basic shit was already done before Nomura left it.
Wait... isn't that proven to be wrong and they're still nowhere near done?
>>320234545
>7R is now FF13
Nah, FF13 was atleast a complete game. A shit one, but atleast it wasn't trying to rip everyone off by being sold in pieces.
>>320234219
>Luminous borrows heavily from UE and also the art assets and nimations are 100% compatible.
No it doens't, Luminous is a completely separate engine that has nothing to do with UE
XV is 100% Luminous Engine, it is not using UE4 you fucking moron
>You do know they were hiring experienced UE devs for the XV team for a reason right?
Except they aren't, at all, you are literally full of fucking shit, the XV team has nothing to do with UE4, XV only uses Luminous Engine which is a completely separate engine from Unreal Engine 4
>>320234659
XV is playable from start to finish and just needs to be polished on the second half.
>>320234545
>XV is still using the Versus system
Not it isn't.
Its just used the SAME FUCKING ANIMATION.
The battle system in VII-Remake however is almost the exact same shit in VersusXIII.
>>320234463
The only person on /v/ I WANT to use a tripcode.
Seriously. I have never before experienced anyone who was so obviously recognizable by their psychotic posting behavior.
>>320233818
Right. In that case, see >>320232679. In that trilogy the level cap of one episode acted as the starting level for the next. You also kept all of your items, equipment, money, etc. if you had the complete save.
>>320234365
AND XV IS STILL USING THE SAME FUCKING SYSTEM FOR NOCTIS SINCE VERSUS YOU FUCKING RETARD
SEE >>320232678
7R IS NOT USING A SINGLE FUCKING THING FROM VERSUS OR XV
>people are actually going to pay for episodic content
Didn't you fucking morons learn from Valve? Square can drop it at any fucking point just like Valve did with Half-Life and leave you hanging while they laugh atop a pile of your money.
WHY ARE YOU FALLING FOR THIS SHIT AGAIN
>>320234731
Did your friend nomura told you that when he visited you on the astral plane?
We are dealing with heavy delusions here.
>>320234830
http://gematsu.com/2015/12/final-fantasy-xv-currently-playable-start-finish
Fuck off you delusional shitposting newfag.
>>320234682
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
You're actually serious, let me laugh even harder.
Luminous is like GoldSrc FYI. I like how you didnt' even try to talk about the fact art assets aren't bound to engines. You literally don't know what you're talkinga bout at all. Go actually get a job in the industry and learn how shit actually.
Hell if you have UE4 experience you can get hired to the XV team.
>>320234357
>>320234463
Can you not read?
XV-kun is shitting on 7R
>>320234830
Stop
>>320234814
They will probably drop it halfway finished, seems to be a square thing recently. They also dropped FFXV
>>320231704
I thought it was good.....
>>320233441
Only things I can think of by the same company is FFXI, FFXIV and DQX, but expansions (Episodes) are a given since they're MMO's
>>320234795
SYSTEM =/= ANIMATION
For fuck sake, VersusXIII even have 3 party limit.
Not to mention that SE have over and over again stated that remaking VII is almost impossible.
So how the fuck can they do it now? The only logical explanation we have is that they are cutting cost by reusing VersusXIII asset.
Which is of course, not limited to just ANIMATION.
>>320234853
This article is full of lies, I believe >>320234917
desu he sounds reliable.
>>320229510
Does anyone know how large the dev team is?
I know UE4 is nice and quick but to pull this of you need a large team..
>>320234736
No, XV is literally using the same fucking gameplay system for Noctis as it was since Versus see>>320232678
The combo system, dodge rolls, jumping, magic, warping etc, all the same since Versus, they've only added onto that while only the other party members were changed to Gambit system
7R plays nothing like Versus, not on any fucking level do they play the same
7R is literally a menu based ATB RPG with canned animations, it plays and looks nothing at all like Versus or XV
>>320234357
What if he's actually Nomura..?
I mean it's not like Nomura is actually "working" on games these days
>>320234736
Wrong. According to Kitase himself it's less action-y than XV or KH, and therefore Versus as well.
>>320229510
RELEASE WHEN? TIFA? TIFA COSTUME? I NEED TO KNOW THIS FOR SCIENTIFIC REASONS
>>320230913
i got a baddddddddddddddddddddddd feeling about this anon
>>320235103
That would explain a lot.
He strikes me as the procrastinator type personality.
It's not like he draws anything anymore either and all his art looks rushed anyways.
What DOES he do?
>>320229972
If it's anything more than 3 parts, its absolutely unacceptable. Really should only be 2 parts seeing as how the only logical cuttoff point is when Aeris dies. The pacing of these episodes worries me.
>>320235103
Nomura doesn't speak English.
>>320234795
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>320235184
They have just finished writing the script for epsiode 1.
This looks to me like they dont even have an idea how the overarching plot is going to pace itself over those episodes
>>320234886
>Luminous is like GoldSrc FYI
No it isn't
Luminous is a full fledged Engine, it is not a
> I like how you didnt' even try to talk about the fact art assets aren't bound to engines.
I like how you are ignoring how XV is being made by Business Division 2 with the Luminous team integrated into the team because they are fully using Luminous Engine while 7R is being made by Business Division 1 and CyberConnect2 with Unreal Engine 4
Not only are the assets we see in XV and Versus not being used in 7R but they are entirely different fucking dev teams in completely different places
You know literally fucking nothing about anything, XV is not using Unreal Engine for anything, XV is fully Luminous Engine
>>320235218
Or so we're led to believe
>>320235167
>mfw this is at least 70% likely
>>320235103
It's like brandon fraser defending himself on imdb.
The poor reading comprehension is off the charts in this thread. Wouldn't be surprised if you fags follow fucking Compile Heart games.
Scenario being complete =/= First part being complete.
>>320235016
Of course, that is LITERALLY the ONLY logical explanation :^)
I'm sure it has nothing to do with their decision to release it in segments to recoup the costs they'd need for the development of the next part.
>Final Fantasy 7 Season Pass
You will see this up on steam/psn/xbl/whatever
>>320235016
>For fuck sake, VersusXIII even have 3 party limit.
3 party limit means literally nothing to how the COMBAT FUCKING WORKS YOU STUPID CUNT
You can have 1, 2, 3 or 4 party members in your party at any time in Versus/XV because that is how it was set up
The entire battle system in Versus/XV is built around Noctis's playstyle, his weapon summoning combos, his warping, his phantom swords, his specific magic abilities, the platforming, dodge rolling, aerial combat etc
7R plays nothing like that at all on any fucking level, having 3 party members means LITERALLY NOTHING to do wtih Versus, even fucking Type-0 had 3 party members, so the fuck what? It means fuck all
>The only logical explanation we have is that they are cutting cost by reusing VersusXIII asset.
DO YOU EVEN FUCKING KNOW WHAT AN ASSET IS?
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME FUCKING SYSTEM ON ANY FUCKING LEVEL
>>320235167
You're delusional if you think it's only going to be 3 chapters. Rest of the image is spot on.
>>320235016
>VersusXIII even have 3 party limit.
That doesn't mean anything
>>320235107
>>320235073
>>320235414
It even have the same menu layout for fuck sake.
Some alteration may have been made, but overall it have the same traits.
If not then do explain how they managed to shat out a gameplay video in a mere months after the teaser? Shit like this would take months to nail down.
FYI according to Nomura the development started just around when they announced PS4 FFVII port.
>>320235451
>DO YOU EVEN FUCKING KNOW WHAT AN ASSET IS?
Do you?
>THEY ARE NOT THE SAME FUCKING SYSTEM ON ANY FUCKING LEVEL
What the fuck are you trying to say here?
FYI is not impossible to import shit into different engine, not to mention how fucking flexible UE4 is.
what I got from this thread is that we should never mention FFXV again
holy fuck
>>320229510
I still don't understand
>spend millions on new engine and fancy tech demos
>use it on one game
>swap to UE4 before that game is even out
Literally dumb
>>320235619
I would be OK with this
>>320235619
Just kinda don't talk about FF in general imo
>>320234460
>I save images of cartoon frogs but only post them if I'm losing an argument or pretending to be retarded on the internet
>>320235795
As opposed to
>make new engine
>entire team which knows how to work with the new engine is working on a single game
>have new team work with same engine on a different game
>they don't know how to use it properly
Literally dumb.
>>320235795
They spent over 40mill dollar for the first 3D Final Fantasy games.
SE can't into R&D.
>>320235795
Maybe the engine isnt as versatile and user friendly as UE4..?
>>320235604
>It even have the same menu layout for fuck sake.
No it fucking doesn't
7R has Attack, Magic, Items, Summon and Defend on the Command Menu with HP, MP, Limit and the ATB bar on the HUD
Versus had only Magic, Items, Summon and Ex-Arts on the menu, a menu which still is in XV and you can bring up at any time, with Ex-Arts being renamed to Phantom Sword, and with the HUD having HP, MP, Exbar/Phantom Bar and a second unknown bar on the HUD
THey are not the same fucking sytem
7R is not an Action RPG with free movment, aerial combos, dodge rolls, jumping, platforming, climbing, co op moves or any of that
7R is a fucking MENU BASED ATB RPG with CANNED ANIMATIONS, you pick a command from the menu and it does that command that you just picked from the menu and will charge up the ATB bar, when you are idle the ATB bar depletes
Versus/XV are Action RPGs with full combos, aerial combos, jumping, dodge rolling, warping, parries, counters, side steps, charges, abilities, sub menu, phantom sword abilities etc, all with their own face button and different button combinations
They play nothing alike on any fucking level
>If not then do explain how they managed to shat out a gameplay video in a mere months after the teaser?
Nigger what the fuck? 7R started development in 2014, Kitase and Nomura both stated that multiple times
Nomura left XV as director in September 2014 because he was assigned to direct FF7R, Kitase confirmed that 7R started development before they announced that PS4 PC port at PSX in 2014, which confirms that 7R started development in 2014
>FYI according to Nomura the development started just around when they announced PS4 FFVII port.
Which was in 2014, and he said it started before then, not at the time they made the announcement
>Do you?
Yes and you clearly fucking don't if you think having three party members is somehow an asset, by your logic FF7R is the same system as FF7 itself because it has three party members
You know fuck all
>>320236116
You need to seek professional help
>>320236261
You both do.
Something tells me that Part 1 ends with the party going out from Midgar. Maybe it's the Planet, she always do weird shit.
>>320236338
wat
>>320236261
>Retard spouts blatantly incorrect shit
>Person corrects him with facts
>g-get help le autist XD
Can someone tell me why we're not just replaying FF7 on an emulator instead of paying 600 bucks for cultural vandalism?
>>320235994
Were the cutscenes done in-house?
>>320236447
I dunno. Why are you doing that?
>>320236261
What the fuck are you even doing on a video game board?
>>320236408
Nigger you've been shilling for XV in every fucking thread for the past two years. Now you're in every FF7R thread. You. Are. An. Autist.
>>320236408
He's been doing this every day for a year.
>>320236116
VII-Remake have been stated over and over again to be having the same feeling as Dissidia.
It will have freemovement, except for when player input the attack where the character will charge into the targeted enemies.
This is the exact same shit as Versus XIII
They are reusing it and altered it.
They aren't that stupid to just copy paste that shit and replace it with Cloud model.
>Versus/XV are Action RPGs with full combos, aerial combos, jumping, dodge rolling, warping, parries, counters, side steps, charges, abilities, sub menu, phantom sword abilities etc, all with their own face button and different button combinations
Its different you fucking idiot.
The webm you pointed out tried so hard on the XV side to look the same because it was meant to COMPARE THE ANIMATION, not the fucking system.
Look up Versus XIII gameplay for fuck sake.
>Yes and you clearly fucking don't if you think having three party members is somehow an asset
And you clearly doesn't know shit you're talking.
Do you know what fucking asset is?
Also, the development started December 2014, and within less than a year they already have a full functional, final gameplay showcase. Which is almost unheard of especially when it comes to SE who is already stretching it when it comes to man power and resource.
>>320236447
Because FF7 sucks and I'd rather play Bravely Second, Dragon Quest 7, Dragon Quest 8, Dragon Quest 11 and Nier Automata than and shitty remake of it.
>>320235167
I told you guys, if you make joke-images like these the execs who browse here will actually consider it.
>>320236585
He's also doing it somehow 24/7.
How does he manage to do this? Is he a chatbot?
>>320229652
>Nomura
Isnt being done by a shitty third party studio?
I think it would be great for everyone's mental health if we ban discussion of final fantasy games on /v/.
The game will be linear as FF XIII. You know its true. It will be a cutscene checkpoint race.
>>320236927
>You know its true
Do I?
>>320236927
Midgar was always linear.
>>320229845
Yeah, gee whiz, they know what the story of the remake is going to be. What a shocker.
>>320236624
No what he said was that there is Dissidia as pure action, then KH as Action RPG, then there comes 7R which is more tactical RPG but still with real time
He was comparing it on a scale from high action to low action that 7R is on the low action more strategy based side
>It will have freemovement
Not during combat, watch the fucking trailer, not a single attack Cloud does has free movement, they are all canned attacks after picking them from a menu, he picks Attack from the command menu, an attack animation plays out, the ATB bar charges, he picks it again, attack animation plays out, ATB bar charges, it is canned animations, it is not action based, it is menu based
> same shit as Versus XIII
No it fucking isn't, it's not even fucking close to Versus/XV system
For one Versus/XV do not have Attack on a menu, nor are they even menu based
The menu we saw in the old Versus trailer was just Magic, Items, Summon and Ex-Arts which we never saw
Attack was always sepearte, dodges too because Versus/XV are action RPGs with those mapped to their own buttons
7R is not a fucking game like those, it has Attack and Defend as commands you pick from a menu
There is no combos, aerial combos, jumping, platforming or anything in 7R, those are in Versus/XV, not 7R you fucking retard
>They are reusing it
Not a single fucking thing is being reused and I already destroyed you on this front.
>They aren't that stupid to just copy paste that shit and replace it with Cloud model.
They aren't even the same fucking animations you blind cunt
>not the fucking system.
Except Versus/XV is using the same system for Noctis which if you had played the fucking demo or knew anything about Versus you would know is still the case, 7R looks and plays nothing like that
>, the development started December 2014,
No, it started in 2014 prior to December.
>final gameplay showcase.
Where is this final gameplay showcase? All Nomura has shown is early game system from the fucking opening
>>320237083
I know. Thats why they will abuse it into making all the game like it. The drone damage control after the first 2 games are extremely linear will be "but but but the last one will feature a rich open world". And it wont happen. Search your feelings. You can see the future too.
>>320229972
Dlc for post game content, gold saucer, ultimate weapon, emerald and Ruby, drowned gelnika and IOS mini game with micro transaction for chocobo breeding
whoa so the story for FF7 is already done?
>only control Cloud
Into the trash.
>>320237336
XIII-2 and LR are much less linear than VII
>>320237363
Yeah, back in 1995.
>>320237389
Is this true? But what about tifa?
>>320237389
They've already confirmed that this isn't the case, so why don't you put yourself in the trash kid.
>>320237431
>But what about tifa?
AI controlled.
>>320237389
But that's wrong, you fucking retard.
Gameplay trailer clearly showed that you can control Barrett.
>>320237431
>Yeah, back in 1995.
nice job identifying the joke
>>320237463
I remember FFXV having switchable members too. Hell I even remember trailers showcasing it well into Tabata's builds.
>>320234437
>Kingdom Hearts
>game made to appeal to the biggest autists on the planet
If anything that's a stain on his record.
>>320237554
>Hell I even remember trailers showcasing it well into Tabata's builds.
Why post when you have no idea what you're talking about
>>320237554
But they never confirmed it. It just showed the camera behind Prompto. Nomura said it was never meant to be considering how much the gameplay focuses around Noctis and his abilities.
But they've already said you control all 3 in the remake.
>>320234437
>Kingdom Hearts as an example of something that isn't a mess
>Kingdom fucking Hearts
>XV's basic shit was already done before Nomura left it.
it's been scrapped or significantly overhauled. Almost everything in the earlier trailers no longer exists
>>320237554
They dropped character switching in 2012 when Versus became XV, that is why they expanded all of Noctis's abilities and playstyle even more while the other members were all Gambit AI since the 2013 trailers, that is why they also integrated the TPS shooting they were going to do with Prompto by putting it onto Noctis now.
We've only seen the other party members do Co-Op moves, assists and their general AI orders since the 2013 trailer
Who here wants to actually murder that fag nomura for fucking up this game?
>>320237495
For what reason? Who the fuck made that choice?
>>320232131
And guess who Square got in to help them make these FFVII episodes?
>>320237967
Jesus, read the thread. It's not true.
>>320237667
Nice meme, anon-kun.
>>320237842
>Kingdom Hearts
>Mess
Nice to fall to the meme, shitposter-kun. Seriously, if you can't grasp the story and have played all the games then you're pretty fucking stupid. There's literally only fucked up thing and it's time travel in 3D. That's fucking it.
>it's been scrapped or significantly overhauled. Almost everything in the earlier trailers no longer exists
We're not talking about the same game here.
>>320235965
>>320236043
>Spend millions on engine and half a decade of RnD
>can't make it user friendly or atleast a tutorial
KH3 and FF7 are their first games running on UE, too. Why would you teach people to use UE4 instead of teaching people to use your inhouse engine?
I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped Luminous in 2 or 3 years in favor of UE4 completely, superior western software engineering etc.
>>320237842
Nomura left XV is September 2014
Whatever Nomura set in 2014 for XV is what Tabata was left to finish, Tabata had been co-director since 2012 so that is why.
The biggest changes from Versus to XV happened in 2012 when Versus was rebooted as XV and full development on XV actually started, we just didn't know about those changes until 2015, Nomura was still director in 2012 so the changes that did happen were still under Nomura.
>>320237267
>No what he said was that there is Dissidia as pure action, then KH as Action RPG, then there comes 7R which is more tactical RPG but still with real time
I was talking about the fucking free movement, not how button mashy it is. I spent my time reading your shit and you better do the same for me.
>Not during combat, watch the fucking trailer, not a single attack Cloud does has free movement
Watch the trailer again and I fucking dare you to say this again.
>Not a single fucking thing is being reused and I already destroyed you on this front.
No you didn't. All you did is comparing Noctis animation between Versus XIII and XV and thats it. That shit didn't destroy the fact that I point out; The menu, the camera, and the overall feel of both system that is strikingly similar.
>They aren't even the same fucking animations you blind cunt
Holy shit, are you fucking retarded? Read my fucking post. At this point you're just disagreeing with me for the sake of it.
What is wrong with you?
>No, it started in 2014 prior to December.
It started in December, or at least late September. But a few fucking weeks doesn't make any differences.
>Yes and you clearly fucking don't if you think having three party members is somehow an asset, by your logic FF7R is the same system as FF7 itself because it has three party members
Yes it is, its part of the whole shit.
>>320238008
Thank god anon for saving my life. I was about to hang myself.
>>320237945
Me, but only if it's legal
waitwaitwait
you'll only get to control Noctis in XV?
>intothetrashitgoes.png
>>320237336
Wasn't the open world already accessible by the end of Disc 1? Not all of it but there was some stuff on the world map.
remake looks shit, FFXV looks shit.
ill just play my old nostalgia turn based games that were better then this modern trash.
by the way Tifas boobs will be flat because can't get away with it in the 21st century.
>>320237267
Too fucking long
>Except Versus/XV is using the same system for Noctis which if you had played the fucking demo or knew anything about Versus you would know is still the case, 7R looks and plays nothing like that
No it isn't.
Just compare the FULL vid, not just the animation showcase of Versus XIII and play Duscae demo yourself.
The difference is much more apparent than VII-remake and Versus XIII
>Where is this final gameplay showcase? All Nomura has shown is early game system from the fucking opening
You call that EARLY? No it isn't.
Even Nomura said that it is SEAMLESS, and everything is in GAMEPLAY.
Not unlike XIII first reveal which turned out to be manufactured.
>>320238167
more like
>slowpoke.jpg
>>320237945
>It's fucked up
>Why?
>/v/ told me!
Ebin
>>320238298
I hope you're not implying VII was turn-based to begin with.
>by the way Tifas boobs will be flat because can't get away with it in the 21st century.
Good meme :-)
>>320229510
>2hours long
>70$
enjoy ff fags, your "magnum opus" has ruined gaming AGAIN
>>320238074
>I was talking about the fucking free movement
Yes and if you watch the fucking 7R trailer you will see that there isn't free movement during combat, the only thing Cloud is seen doing is canned attack animations, not free movement during combat.
>Watch the trailer again
I've watched it countless times, not a single fucking time does Cloud do free movement during the combat systems, he only ever does an attack which are not free movement, they are canned animations that are being picked from the fucking menu.
> All you did is comparing Noctis animation between Versus XIII and XV and thats it.
Which if you weren't a fucking retard you would know only further proves that XV is using the same Noctis system from Versus, Nomura already stated back in 2011 that Noctis's weapons swap out as you attack based on the state of the combo, that is exactly how XV works even in the demo, and they only added in manual weapon switching on top of that, running around, jumping, warping, dodge rolling etc, during combat, those are all in Versus/XV, those things are not in 7R at all because they play nothing alike.
>he menu, the camera, and the overall feel of both system that is strikingly similar.
SIMILAR MEANS NOTHING YOU FUCK
7R has
Attack
Magic
Items
Summon
Defend
These are COMMANDS YOU PICK FROM THE MENU TO DO
When you PICK ONE OF THOSE COMMANDS THE ATB BAR FILLS UP, WHEN YOU AREN'T INPUTTING ANYTHING THE ATB BAR DEPLETES, THAT IS HOW 7R WORKS, IT IS MENU BASED YOU FUCK
Versus/XV do not play like that at all
Attack is it's own button, Dodge is it's own button, Jump is its own button, Warp is its own button, Abilities is its own button, Picking Items/Summon/Magic/PhantomSword from a sub menu is what you do in real time by bringing up the menu or activating them, it plays nothing at all like 7R on any fucking level
7R is not using anything from Versus or XV.
7R started development in 2014 period
Having three members in a party is NOT A FUCKING ASSET
>>320238167
>waitwaitwait
>you'll only get to control Noctis in XV?
This has been common knowledge for a while.
>>intothetrashitgoes.png
Doubt you would have played it, anyway, since you're only finding out now about the party system.
>>320238167
You can do more with Noctis alone than you can the entire party in FF7, that is why.
The system is built around his playstyle.
Can there ever be a FFVII remake thread without it being invade by assblasted negative nancy faggots who pull ridiculous scenarios out of their ass and whine about how bad they assume it will be so that other assblasted negative nancy faggots can take it as literal truth and whine like baby bitch faggot fuckboys for 500 posts?
>>320238580
They've already said that 7R is going to be an action RPG. But far slower than Kingdom Hearts and focusing on more tactical play.
>>320237842
You do realize that most Versus trailers were done back when they had nothing and it was just a glorified concept? Compare Another Side, Another Story and KH2 to see what it means to go from a concept to an actual game.
>>320238669
>WAHHHH WHY ISN'T THE THREAD 100% SHILLING
>>>/vg/
>>320238310
>Just compare the FULL vid, not just the animation showcase of Versus XIII and play Duscae demo yourself.
I have, 7R plays nothing at all like Versus/XV
>You call that EARLY? No it isn't.
Yes it fucking is, Nomura himself said so.
>Even Nomura said that it is SEAMLESS, and everything is in GAMEPLAY.
The fuck does that have to do with not being early?
>Not unlike XIII first reveal which turned out to be manufactured.
And? Your points are completely non sequitur to anything you are trying to actually argue
7R started development in 2014, you just fucking said yourself they can't make something in a few months because you thought it only started development around E3 2015, but it started in 2014 over a year ago, and all they have right now is EARLY GAME, literally the very first fucking thing that happens in the game is all that they showed
They are not even close to being finished, especially when the scenario for part 1 was only just fucking done you retard.
THERE ARE ONLY 9 DAYS UNTIL CHRISTMAS! TELL SANTA TIFA WHAT YOU WANT FOR FF7R! DON'T BE SHY!
>>320238669
This is /v/, anon. Asking /v/ to stop being negative tin foil hat wearing Nancy faggots is like asking a homosexual to stop liking men.
>>320238669
This is /v/, my man. There won't be peace from this shit.
>>320238724
No.
Just take a look at >>320233210
It's NOT going to be ARPG.
They said it's going to be ACTION-Y but NOT ARPG.
>>320238869
I want aDolphin blow
>>320238829
>Relentlessly shit up every single FFVIIR thread
>Fill them with 500 shitposts every single fucking time
>No conversation worth involving yourself with
>Just constant shitposts and worst-case scenarios presented as 100% truth
>Then act like I'm a shill for wanting to have an actual thread for once on the subject
Kill yourself, you fucking autist shithead.
>>320238869
turn based.... oh wait..
>>320238724
They said 7R is not completely an Action RPG, only that it has more real time elements than 7 but is still tactical.
And the trailer shows a menu based system just with more real time elements.
>>320238963
I saw that. Kingdom Hearts had that too.
>>320238869
I WANT TOsave Biggs, Wedge & Jesse and hire them to be shipmates on the Highwind.
>>320238724
Yes, but Kitase did say it's much slower and less action-based than XV, so >>320238580 is not entirely wrong. In XV almost everything is done through direct button input, while 7R seems to resemble Crisis Core more than anything: you do have a certain amount of direct control, but you're still choosing most of the actions from the menu.
I'm excited for FF7R & XV, and there's nothing you can do about it, /v/.
>>320239014
>It's one person posting what you don't like in every thread
Nah faggot, the only one that autistic is the XV retard.
>>320239075
>I saw that. Kingdom Hearts had that too.
No it doesn't. DEFEND(!) is not an option in any KH or any ARPG for that matter. Block is its own button and isn't some static defend that reduces damage taken.
>>320239075
KH does not have Defend on a menu or ATB bar.
In KH you move around in real time, X is your confirm button and Attack is by default at the top, as you tap X while Attack is highlighted you attack in combos with ground and aerial movement also by jumping, you move the D pad up or down to switch other commands like Items, Magic or Summons which only bring up sub menus that you confirm with X too all in real time with free movement, dodges are mapped to their own button too
7R is not using that system, 7R is using an ATB bar with a command menu, you pick a command from the menu and that command is done, when you pick the command the ATB bar fills up, when you aren't inputting anything the ATB depletes, there is no free movement, jumping or dodging during combat, you pick attack command from the menu to attack, you pick defend command from the menu to defend because it is a menu based game with an ATB, it is just slightly more real time elements than FF7 has but it is not an Action RPG like KH, Versus or XV.
>>320234365
>Literally argued about VsXIII
Are you this retarded?
>>320238586
>>320238417
i haven't paid attention to xv since it was called versus xiii, now i can continue to not give a shit about it
thanks for the update, shills
>>320235167
Why is Yuffie cheaper than Vincent?
>>320239389
No, you clearly see the ATB rising as cloud attacks, and them doing limit-style attacks on a red ATB
Look, I think it'll be a more tactical game. But it's not going to be turnbased. they said as much.
>>320239438
Noctis can do everything the other party members can do and more.
>>320239504
>>320239504
>No, you clearly see the ATB rising as cloud attacks
I know, that's what I just said
>But it's not going to be turnbased
I didn't say it was turn based, I said it was menu based, because it is.
Menu based and turn based are not the same thing.
>>320239438
Jesus, took you THAT long to come up with such a shit response? I feel bad for your parents.
>>320238867
>Yes and if you watch the fucking 7R trailer you will see that there isn't free movement during combat, the only thing Cloud is seen doing is canned attack animations, not free movement during combat.
Nigga there's free movement.
Look at Barret movement during gameplay.
>Yes it fucking is, Nomura himself said so.
No he never said that.
All he said that is the graphic need some polish and thats it.
>SIMILAR MEANS NOTHING YOU FUCK
SIMILAR IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO POINT OUT YOU RETARD.
The fact that it is SIMILAR is why people make such claim.
IF IT NOT WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE.
>The fuck does that have to do with not being early?
The fact that the BATTLE SYSTEM is almost done.
>7R started development in 2014,
End of 2014, which is still absurbly fast.
Do you know how long it takes to have a simple working rig? Not to mention coming up a working battle system.
>you just fucking said yourself they can't make something in a few months because you thought it only started development around E3 2015
No I didn't THOUGHT that.
I've even said in the same post that the game dev started in Dec 2014.
>They are not even close to being finished, especially when the scenario for part 1 was only just fucking done you retard.
Its still too fucking fast considering the shit they've showed so far.
>>320239615
sorry for not giving you my undivided attention fampai ;^)
>>320239579
Well... Yes it's going to be menu based, the menu is right there! I think you're vastly underselling the movement since it looked very free to me.
>>320239615
>i check the thread every 5 seconds to see if anyone answers ,e
i feel bad for you
>>320238869
I wantTifa to have big tits
>>320238869
Nicely sized juicy tits on Tifa.
If you ever defend the episode bullshit you're a SJW.
How can you ever accept shit like that?
>>320229510
FAGGOTS SAID THIS WOULD BE NON EPISODIC BECAUSE OF A SHITTY TRANSLATION
HOW DOES IT FEEL NOW, HUH? WE CALLED IT FROM THE FUCKING START
>>320239874
>getting mad
always a great course of action
>>320239693
>Nigga there's free movement
No there isn't, not a single time does Cloud have free movement during any combat scene\
>Look at Barret movement during gameplay
That is not free movement, that is once again a canned animation being played out for Barret, he walks on his own after you input the attack command, there is no free movement in combat
>All he said that is the graphic need some polish and thats it
No he fucking didn't, he literally came on stage, said this is an early look at the game and that they have lots more to show later, the game is nowhere fucking close to being done.
>SIMILAR IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO POINT OUT YOU RETARD.
No you are literally fucking saying it is using Versus/XV system when it isn't on any fucking level.
>The fact that it is SIMILAR is why people make such claim.
Similarities mean fucking nothing, Cloud crawls through a tight space and between a wall, guess 7R is now Uncharted!
>The fact that the BATTLE SYSTEM is almost done.
No it isn't, holy fucking shit you delusional fucking retard, the game is not even close to being done.
>End of 2014, which is still absurbly fast.
At earliest September 2014, which is still more than a year of development and more than enough time for them to make a 2 minute fucking trailer based on the literal fucking opening of the game where they only have early things on showcase.
>No I didn't THOUGHT that.
You literally fucking said you thought it only started development after the teaser was shown, you said "explain how they have this much done after the teaser" the fucking teaser was done by Visual Works Studio who have nothing to do with game development, 7R itself started in 2014 and had more than a year to now for them to showcase an early as fuck build of the game, they had Visual Works Studio do a short CGI teaser for E3 to reveal the game while they were still working on the actual game itself
It's not fast at all, KH3 started in early 2013 and we saw gameplay in September 2013
Man this fanbase is shit.You guys hate everything Final fantasy. Go play a new series and spread your wings or something damn
>>320240013
Nobody said anything about it being non-episodic because of a shitty translation, you deluded idiot.
>>320239849
>If you don't like what I like then you're an SJW!
>If you don't like what I like then you're a racist!
You ARE the problem. Kill yourself.
>>320229758
I too suspct it will end with the escape from Midgar, that's the first logical cut off point. The next is the Mako Refinery in clouds old home town
>>320238869
I wantthis game to not suck;_;
I think baiting FFXV kun might be /v/s favourite pass time now.
He seems to get genuinely upset when you talk down on FF games.
>>320240075
>That is not free movement, that is once again a canned animation being played out for Barret, he walks on his own after you input the attack command, there is no free movement in combat
>Ranged character walk closely to its target
That is fucking retarded if it true.
>No he fucking didn't, he literally came on stage, said this is an early look at the game and that they have lots more to show later, the game is nowhere fucking close to being done.
Pretty sure in the stage he meant 'First look' rather than 'Early Look".
Regarding the polish thing, it was in the interview. Of which he mention how proud it look when Cloud seamlessly goes into action after a custscene.
>No you are literally fucking saying it is using Versus/XV system when it isn't on any fucking level.
See, this is why I called your shit out on how clueless you are on what ASSET is.
What I was trying to point out is that VII-Remake is reusing Versus-XIII asset, not outright copy paste it.
Using an already scrapped game as a base, and build your game around it is a good way to save time and cost.
Which is why the managed to shat this out soo fucking fast, which is why somehow its possible for them to remake VII despite saying its not possible over and over again.
>>320240075
Cont:
>No it isn't, holy fucking shit you delusional fucking retard, the game is not even close to being done.
Or course not, but what they've shown so far is way too far to be called 'early'.
Its far ahead a 'proof of concept' or a 'trailer'..
They showed a working game.
Everybody were caught by surpise when they showcase, I know I did.
Everybody thinks that they won't be seeing any new update for at least another year when the teaser comes out.
>At earliest September 2014, which is still more than a year of development and more than enough time for them to make a 2 minute fucking trailer based on the literal fucking opening of the game where they only have early things on showcase.
Its not just a fucking trailer.Its a working game.
>It's not fast at all, KH3 started in early 2013 and we saw gameplay in September 2013
The E3 2013 announcement is the date where they confirm that the game is indeed in development, not the exact day it started development. You got to be one special retard if you can't tell the differences.
>>320235167
>tfw Gold Saucer will be pretty much one 'episode'
>>320235424
But if they did a season pass, then we at least know the full price and how much content to expect in each part.
>>320241089
>tfw the minigames will be cut and itll be linear as all fuck
>>320241218
I can't tell who's baiting who anymore
The first part will be released 2017 near the 20th anniversary.
>>320240994
It has no free movement, it's just like in FF13 after you pick the command the character has a canned animation that plays out
https://youtu.be/GMdDEodrNQI
Lightning and shit are moving around all the time in battles but you don't control their movement, they are canned animations that play out on their own
On Barret we can clearly fucking see he has just input Attack so his attack animation involves him shooting and moving a few steps, it is a canned animation, there is no free movement in combat, and there is none seen with Cloud either.
>Pretty sure in the stage he meant 'First look' rather than 'Early Look".
Early look.
> Of which he mention how proud it look when Cloud seamlessly goes into action after a custscene.
That has nothing to do with the level of completion that the game is at.
>See, this is why I called your shit out on how clueless you are on what ASSET is.
But you are once again clueless about what an asset is because you fucking thing having three members in a party is an asset, that isn't a fucking asset.
>What I was trying to point out is that VII-Remake is reusing Versus-XIII asset
It is not reusing anything from Versus or XV, none of the assets from them are being used.
>Using an already scrapped game as a base, and build your game around it is a good way to save time and cost.
XV is using assets and the codebase they had from Versus, the battle system designer, level design, animation lead, lead engineer etc on XV are all the same devs since Versus, 7R is not using a single thing from Versus or XV, nothing in the 7R footage is anything from Versus or XV.
>Which is why the managed to shat this out soo fucking fast
They started development in 2014, and in December 2015 showed an early as fuck build of the opening of the game, they are not using a single fucking thing from Versus or XV, and for fuck sakes KH3 started in early 2013 and we saw gameplay in September 2013, means fuck all, 7R is nowhere near completion.
>>320229510
>they completed the script of the first chapter of a game with existing plot
WOAH
>>320241307
It's best to just not reply at all and let them rot with no replies.
>>320241069
>Or course not, but what they've shown so far is way too far to be called 'early'.
No it is the very definition of early.
>They showed a working game.
And? They showed early elements from the fucking opening of the game, they are nowhere near done
KH3 showed a working game in September 2013 only a few months after it was announced, doesn't mean KH3 is anywhere near complete.
>Its not just a fucking trailer.Its a working game.
See above
>The E3 2013 announcement is the date where they confirm that the game is indeed in development, not the exact day it started development.
KH3 was confirmed to have started development in 2013 shortly before E3
At E3 2013 all that they had done for KH3 was that teaser reveal, and by September 2013 they had a playable working game
You know fuck all about game development
GET H Y P E D
>>320241356
>That has nothing to do with the level of completion that the game is at.
It actually have anon.
The shit they've shown so far is pretty deep
>But you are once again clueless about what an asset is because you fucking thing having three members in a party is an asset, that isn't a fucking asset.
Its called PROGRAMMING, and its part of the ASSET. What? DO you think 'asset' only pertain to shit like model or animation?
>It is not reusing anything from Versus or XV, none of the assets from them are being used.
Its use VersusXIII as a base. Building the game around a completed proof of concept, skipping a lot of early production shit.
And I can agree with you that it have nothing to do with XV.
>XV is using assets and the codebase they had from Versus, the battle system designer, level design, animation lead, lead engineer etc on XV are all the same devs since Versus,
Its using the same asset in term of character model and animation.
The battle system is completely different, everything that they made for Versus XIII has been scrapped including the main fucking heroin. The development of Versus XIII have been completely halted when XV started.
>At E3 2013 all that they had done for KH3 was that teaser reveal, and by September 2013 they had a playable working game
KHIII development were announced by Nomura as early as 2010 before it was officially announced in the 2013 that KHIII is indeed in development.
>>320242307
>The shit they've shown so far is pretty deep
No they havn't, all it shows is that they have a seamless battle transition which means nothing towards level of completion
Fuck there is more details just coming from the interview now stating they don't even know how many parts it will be, whether they will use online, whether they will use guard, etc, they are still early on in development, no even close to being done, for fuck sakes just last week Nomura said he still has yet to do Clouds cross dressing design meaning they haven't even done that section of the game yet
>Its called PROGRAMMING
Dude are you fucking retarded? You can program anything to have three party members, it does NOT FUCKING MEAN THEY TOOK SOMETHING AWAY FROM ONE GAME TO USE IN ANOTHER
Are you literally that fucking stupid? Having three party members is not an asset, by your own fucking logic FF7R is the same system as 7 itself because it has three party members, you are beyond fucking autistic.
>Its use VersusXIII as a base.
NO IT FUCKING ISN'T
NOTHING FORM VERSUS IS BEING USED IN 7R
NONE OF THE ANIMATIOSN, ACTIONS, GAMEPLAY SYSTEMS, COMBAT, NOTHING
>And I can agree with you that it have nothing to do with XV.
XV is using the codebase from Versus you fucking retard, it has the same fucking people who are actually making the game involved in it since the 2011 Versus build
7R plays nothing like Versus/XV, you were already fucking wrecked on this front
>Its using the same asset in term of character model and animation.
The combat system for Noctis is the same, the weapon system, aerial combat, warping, dodge rolling, jumping, platforming etc from Versus are all still in XV, not a single one of those things is in 7R
>everything that they made for Versus XIII has been scrapped including the main fucking heroin.
No they fucking didn't
Stella Nox Fleuret was changed into Luna Nox Fleuret you fucking retard, the overall story is still the same, Noctis combat still the same etc
>>320242307
>The development of Versus XIII have been completely halted when XV started.
Wrong, they rolled everything they had done from Versus into XV in 2012, they changed Stella into Luna and made minor changes to the intro of the game while the overall story is still intact, all the other characters are exactly the same.
XV is still using the same Noctis combat and codebase from Versus
7R is not using a SINGLE FUCKING THING AT ALL FROM VERSUS/XV
>KHIII development were announced by Nomura as early as 2010 before it was officially announced in the 2013 that KHIII is indeed in development.
KH3 did not start development until 2013 as confirmed by Nomura you fucking idiot
FF7 remake has been in talks since September 2012 during the FF 25th anniversary according to Kitase but that doesn't mean it's been in actual development since then, 7R started develoment in 2014
KH3 started development in 2013
>>320242250
Part 1
Even if you type out something long I'm not going to bother with your autism anymore
You already got wrecked you faggot.
I remember back in the day it took me about a week to finish the Midgar bit so I don't really mind
But more to the point OP, they're talking about the script. It's not hard to write up a script for something they've already done so of course they'd have finished that by now
>>320242773
>No they havn't, all it shows is that they have a seamless battle transition which means nothing towards level of completion
It show a very advanced progression, to advanced for a game that is supposedly have less than a year of development time.
>Dude are you fucking retarded? You can program anything to have three party members, it does NOT FUCKING MEAN THEY TOOK SOMETHING AWAY FROM ONE GAME TO USE IN ANOTHER
Yes it is, which is why I made such claim in the first fucking place.
You keep saying its different, but the its extremely similar to have the benefit of doubt.
>NOTHING FORM VERSUS IS BEING USED IN 7R
>NONE OF THE ANIMATIOSN, ACTIONS, GAMEPLAY SYSTEMS, COMBAT, NOTHING
Of course they didn't copy paste all those shit.
Though I still stand by my argument that VII-Remake is using Versus-XIII as a base due to its striking similarity, the speed of the game development and how the game is possible in the first fucking place.
>XV is using the codebase from Versus you fucking retard, it has the same fucking people who are actually making the game involved in it since the 2011 Versus build
Except for the change in director, several key members, rewritten scenario, character design change, full gameplay alteration, the game engine, the fact that Versus-XIII have been explicitly stated as 'halted', the fact that XV full development were announced
Due to technical difficulties, a realtime rendering of the battle sequence at the end of the teaser could not be shown at E3 and had to be pre-rendered
>The combat system for Noctis is the same, the weapon system, aerial combat, warping, dodge rolling, jumping, platforming etc from Versus are all still in XV, not a single one of those things is in 7R
You keep looking at a different perspective.
Stop thinking 'asset' as something that is visual only.
>>320242985
>Due to technical difficulties, a realtime rendering of the battle sequence at the end of the teaser could not be shown at E3 and had to be pre-rendered
This is Nomura statement regarding the 'gameplay' trailer of KHIII
>Wrong, they rolled everything they had done from Versus into XV in 2012, they changed Stella into Luna and made minor changes to the intro of the game while the overall story is still intact, all the other characters are exactly the same.
The scenario have been completely rewritten, the character have been redesigned.
They fucking changed the main artist for fuck sake.
>FF7 remake has been in talks since September 2012 during the FF 25th anniversary according to Kitase but that doesn't mean it's been in actual development since then
Early 2014 Kitase himself stated that VII Remake is not possible.
>>320243901
>lol you got wrecked
Thats not a proper argument.
You have yet to address multiple concern and have not, or even close, to 'wrecking' somebody.
>>320229972
>Each episode 5-10 hours (full game by 2015 standards)
lol no. A full game by today's standards is 100+ hours, compared to 20-30 hours in the 90s.
>>320233645
What is your source? And by scenario they mean in game, not the writing of it. Fuck off
>>320244140
>Early 2014 Kitase himself stated that VII Remake is not possible
I think it would be to expensive to do it well.
So I think their plan is.
>episodic and see how much cash comes in
>if enough then proper remake
>if not enough then they can make the other episodes cheaper and less content
This might be the strategy.
>>320244362
>And by scenario they mean in game, not the writing of it.
Google scenario definition.
>a written outline of a film, novel, or stage work giving details of the plot and individual scenes.
FUCK A REMAKE OF FF7!
MAKE A FUCKING REMAKE OF FF6!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>320244362
>And by scenario they mean in game, not the writing of it.
You're wrong.
>>320229510
>20th anniversary
>>320244475
>Letting Nomura have his way with FF6
>>320229510
You know guys, there is a main scenario. In other words, the game is short as fuck. Probably gonna end after the soldiers killed Baret's guys.
>>320244856
>In other words, the game is short as fuck.
How the fuck does that mean the game is short? They've probably been working on the outline for ages.
>>320244461
>>320244625
Not that guy, but completing the scenario in vidya means that a lot of shit have been finalized.
Writing a scenario isn't one man job, you have to work in tandem with other key position such as lead artist, scrip writer, director etc.
Most, if not all the time, at least a concept art needs to be done for the scenario to be finalized in order to get the whole team on page visually.
>>320245267
Okay, but that has nothing to do with the in game scenario, like he said. I hope they take their time and get every little bit right before moving onto gameplay.
literally /v/ over exaggerates with speculation the thread
This thread:
>hey guys, we've finished writing the outline for the first part
>OMG GAMES GONNA SUK
>>320244981
It might have a mini open world, but if u just play the main storyline u might end it in 2 hours and half. Episodic games must have as rule at least 5 episodes.
>>320246176
You're not including all the side quests and new features they'll be adding into the game to expand it.
So it ends when they blow up the first mako reactor, right?
>>320232009
It's me, Goku.
>>320246352
It ends after Cloud jumps off the train.
>>320246352
probably explode a couple and explore all of midgar
>>320230263
Yes but nobody actually knows how this system will work so you get braindead morons assuming the worst. Lots of people like to conveniently ignore that FFVII came on three discs and that a 3-part format would actually work if they sold it in affordable chunks. $20 per part, $15 each if bought in a "season pass" bundle would be the best option
>>320232537
We can't exactly assume Square's intentions until we see pricetags
Blah blah blah remake. I'm thinking about buying the port of 7 on PS4. Can the cheats be disabled? Like, I have a habit of clicking my sticks in randomly and I don't want to turn on some dumb gay shit every time I do it.
>"WAAAAAAAHHHHHHH FFVII IS DEAD RUINED 5EVER THANKS HACKURA"
>Don't even know how the episodic system will work, or be priced
>Don't know much about combat except the clips of Cloud and Barret charging into stuff and that the system is a modified ATB
>Automatically assume the very worst without waiting for more information
I thought I was jaded but you guys take the goddamn cake
Square already confirmed "Every episode will be a Unique Experience", so throw any fairytale dreams you have of backtracking out the window
once you boot up chapter 2, midgar is gone forever. you literally can't go back. wanna visit midgar? start a new game and boot up chapter 1
linearity rules all. each chapter will be balanced around the current level progression. dreams of overpowered bosses like the Snake won't be in the game since they will be balancing the campaign around the lack of backtracking
BTW, this game is replayable but not in a good way. when you think about starting a new campaign you'll probably just start the chapter that has the content you like instead of all the way from chapter 1. The game won't force you to start from chapter 1, you can start at any chapter in the game.
The game probably won't even use a level system, and even if it did, expect level caps on each chapter to prevent players from overlevelling and getting max limit breaks before progressing in the plot
your fairytale dream of unlocking everyone's limit breaks before leaving midgar, something you could do in the original? Throw it out the window
>>320249910
>once you boot up chapter 2, midgar is gone forever.
Source?
>>320238869
I wantCloud to have the option to crossdress and tomboy Yuffie
>>320234814
>WHY ARE YOU FALLING FOR THIS SHIT AGAIN
Cause they are japanese, they can't possibly be trying to rip them offf.
>>320250176
>Every episode will be a Unique Experience
"Every episode will be a Unique Experience"
It's already confirmed.
if midgar was in chapter 2, then chapter 1 would no longer be a uinque experience.
backtracking is gone, anon
it's time you accept it
>>320250683
None of that means that Midgar will be gone or that we won't be able to backtrack.
>>320250882
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE TERM "UNIQUE" IS, YOU FUCK?
Also, learn corporate speak, please.
Square is not going to flat out lie. They're using the term "unique experience" to soften the blow when chapter 2 is announced with the removal of the world map
>>320251146
Calm your autism, kid.
>>320251146
Unique experience could mean anything. You're over speculating, you autist.
>>320230365
The .hack games did that
>>320251146
>"Trust me, I speak Jewpinese so I know what they mean"
>>320229510
This is gonna be terrible.
>>320229510
main quest=! side quests
>>320229510
Its basically a FFXV reskin. Of course its going to be done quick.
>>320251253
>The .hack games did that
Is there a single .hack game that's actually relevant besides Infection?
>>320237197
It take some time to figure out what to cut and censor.
>>320251498
FF7 isn't a mmo.
>>320242307
>Its called PROGRAMMING, and its part of the ASSET. What? DO you think 'asset' only pertain to shit like model or animation?
Assets are the data that go into a program, typically the artistic data in particular and not, for example, actor configuration data
The program itself is not an asset in any way
Flashbacks are highly integral to the FF7 plot, and FFXV revels in its openworld environment.
I'm not sure why most of you are thinking they're just going to drop the openworld, with the exception of "oh, it'll be episodic, and I can only really compare that with Telltale games".
It would be foolish, and a loss of a significantly great nostalgia-milking experience, for Square Enix to drop the Highwind flying and Chocobo system, entirely. Sure, they make some stupid choices, here and there, but I honestly doubt that they would completely scrap that in favor of a completely linear game progression.
>>320231817
You sure are made about straight facts.
Did you even graduate high school yet?
I hope they remove Caith Sith
>>320252310
To really find out if exploration of previous 'installments' is possible, some heavy-hitting journalist will have to ask the team if it will be possible to play future installments, after removing previous ones from the hard drive. If they say yes, then all bets are off, and it's guaranteed to be completely linear.
>>320249910
But you can't go back into Midgar anyway the doors lock.
>>320229510
>people are still trusting Square Enix
What are the chances Episode 1 ends with sailing away from Junon
>>320255486
You never dug up the Sector 5 Key?
anyone else hinging their decision to buy this game purely on what tifa looks like?
they better not fuck this up
>>320255486
git gud, scrub
if the final voice acting is as bad as the PSX trailer showed us, i'm not even going to bother
that dub was some trashy ass 90's anime-tier bullshit
in this golden age of english VA, they keep going back to these fucking awful KH people for FF7 work; this steve burton fag is monotone shit, jessie sounds generic as fuck, biggs sounds too gruff edgy, wedge sounds like pillsberry dough boy, and barret has a cold
The game's been in production for a while, Adam Boyes said in an interview around E3 time that they had known since at least before PSX 2014. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised, all things considered, if we hear a release date for the first part by E3 2016.
>>320259764
I kinda am. I mean the episodic release really negatively affected my opinion of it, but if Tifa looks good I might reconsider.
>>320244475
I hope for many milleniums that the words "Nomura" "Director" and "Final Fantasy VI" never appear in the same sentence.
>>320232678
Why does he run so fucking slowly?
>>320259764
I'm really not sure what to expect from Tifa; Cloud's changed relatively little from his original design, but Barret is so different in comparison. I think they'll perhaps give her a little more clothing on her lower body; not necessarily removing the skirt, but giving her thigh-highs or kneepads or something. Maybe something on her arms too, like gauntlets.
H749E-WR847-7GD2C
>>320260856
thanks anon
>Get disk 1 in 2016
>Get disk 2 in 2017
>Get disk 3 in 2018
>Game gets ported over to Xbone/PC/NX for the collection edition in late 2018/2019
>and uh, its cheaper to make these episodes
what did he mean by this?
>>320260028
>nolan north as cloud
>>320233573
>its full of quality but is short as fuck. so the game will be divided in more than just the 3 parts from back in 90s
And each part will cost $40-$60 because you know, "each part will be as big a complete game..."
>>320260028
They're using the same voice actors as Advent Children.
>>320229510
>take disc one of the original games script
>make a few changes here and there
its not like they have to write a new story or anything, just figure out how to space the episodes and plan what to change
>>320260028
>that dub was some trashy ass 90's anime-tier bullshit
Jet Black voicing Barrett isn't trashy.
>>320262705
They're expanding everything, anon. Ever episode will be a full game. They aren't just doing the main quest. Read the thread.
>>320261517
fuck off, there are plenty of good VAs on the US scene besides nolan north and troy baker
matthew mercer would be a better cloud
>>320262747
ok but cowboy bebop is a 90's anime and regardless of how much anons love it, it's still got that 90's anime dubbing feel to it
it just wasn't as bad as everything else being dubbed at the time but it's not amazing
>>320263636
>it's still got that 90's anime dubbing feel to it
That's bad?
>>320233573
According to more recent interviews, they began "exploring the possibility" of the remake in 2012 or 2013, and the project officially began production some time around E3 2014, which is when Sony found out about it.
Yes, that does mean that Square and Sony intentionally fucked with everyone when they announced the PC-PS4 port last December.
>>320263696
yes
i'm not saying anime dubbing has gotten better though. video game dubbing is god tier though, thanks to actual actors doing it and voice direction being consistent.
old dubbing houses had pretty bad voice direction and it always sounded so jarring and cartoony, no matter what the material was.
that's how this FF7 remake dub sounds. it's too disney cartoon network sounding.
final fantasy xii and xiii were fine, even if they were a bit awkward at times. this one just sounds lazy, especially since they're still using the same actors they used 10 years ago.
these people aren't david hayter. they don't need to keep using their shitty soap opera status voices anymore.
>>320264354
>Yes, that does mean that Square and Sony intentionally fucked with everyone when they announced the PC-PS4 port last December.
Not really. It's to give people the option to play the original before the remake, so you can see the difference.
>>320264546
Hmmmm, I disagree because I like the voice acting, but can't you just switch to Japanese audio with English subs?
>>320264692
i don't want japanese audio though. i can't stand japanese audio. jap voices fuck my immersion up, especially if it's not a game that actually takes place in japan.
i love english dubs. i'm just saying, square needs to get on the level of modern voice casting quality if they want people to take their games seriously and not laugh at every dramatic moment because all their characters sound like nickelodeon cartoons.
Lol and they said it would take too long and too many resources.
What a bunch of jokes. Feel sorry for SquEnix fans, too busy gagging on asian dick to notice.
>>320233573
option 1 is pretty much guaranteed.
They knew better after ffxv's decade-long reveal. And considering they pushed cloud's outfit and teasers oif what-if scenarios in past PSXes, the remake has probably been in development since UE4 went free. Maybe even earlier.
>>320233573
Option 3 is pretty much confirmed.
>>320266159
The initial sequence is only the first Sector and the Mako Reactor. Where not even in the woods yet. Not even close.
>>320266159
You know what's hilarious.
>say they're making a full game out of each of the parts
>couldn't just make the full game and leave it at that
I blame the fact that they're rehauling pretty much everything.
>>320267605
If I were to guess, UE4 ended up making KH3's development cycle MUCH less of a pain in the backside than with Luminous, and Square realised the possibilities open to them if they swallowed their pride a little and used a ready-made engine.
>>320266159
Given that part 1 will almost certainly be exclusively Midgar, there's a distinct difference between making an expanded version of what is a relatively small and linear area of the game, and having to take into consideration the entire world map and travelling between distinctly different locations on it. Releasing it in parts gives them time to concentrate solely on different parts of the game whilst still actually releasing something to show for it.
>>320244352
Is shit what insanity looks like?
>>320229510
It's a remake. What more do you expect?
>>320268910
>UE4 ended up making KH3's development cycle MUCH less of a pain in the backside than with Luminous
Pretty much. Nomura's interviews imply that they wanted to get started on the game and everyone who knows Luminous well is busy on FFXV.
>>320244352
>100+ hours
I think only two games have done this in this gen.
I love how it says "already complete" like that should be some big deal we should all be excited and impressed by.
It's a remake! The scenario was written TWENTY FUCKING YEARS AGO! You're the ones who decided to get all fancy and weird with it in the first place.
>>320246352
Naw it ends with Aeris standing up in the opening
>>320272516
No, it definitely ends when you reach the title screen.
>>320272784
Really? I'm pretty sure we were just spending $59.99 on this screen right here
I wouldn't have minded episodic if we got a GZ/TPP deal. Where Midgar is the introductory game, and the rest is the main course.
That way they still get their quick, cheap game out and we still get some quality.
>>320273450
Please no.
>>320236758
CC2 is not shit.
