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Why did Bethesda forget about me /v/?
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Why did Bethesda forget about me /v/?
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>>320220751
They sure forgot about Jet's origins.
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Robobrains are cute! CUTE!
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>>320220751
>rip robobrains
>rip giant ants
>rip centaurs
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>>320220751

>Child locked in a toilet for 200 years
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>>320222098
Wait, none of these things are in FO4? What the fuck? I loved Robobrains but it's even more bizarre they would forget centaurs.
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The Fallout 3 robobrains had cuter voices but the New Vegas ones said cuter stuff.

>tfw that robobrain you create in OWB

noooooooooo
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>>320222390
Centaurs were cut for the NCR expansion pak.
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Testing
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>>320222390
Yeah there gone but hey now super mutants have...dogs...
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>>320220751
everything not in previous games was removed for "streamlining" , sellin for dlc, or laziness/they forgot.

Remember crossbows in morrowind then them selling you it as dlc in skyrim dragonborn? Then the fucken orc selling it to you goes heh never seen one before? for fucks sake.
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>>320222542
>tfw no synth dogs
>synth dogs that replace normal dogs, you can't even tell the difference
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>>320222681
>people complain about the lore breaking cats
>what if they were synth cats the whole time
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>>320223221
how are cats breaking lore?
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>>320223565
Cats were hunted to extinction for meat after the great war. They should have all died out, since all their prey died in the war.
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>>320223768
people eat all the cats in the world but spare dogs?
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>>320220751
no idea senpaitachi
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>>320224172
Supposedly only certain breeds got saved because people took police dogs into the vaults with them. I'm not sure about all the mongrels roaming around, I guess a few struggled on. Dogs are more valuable than cats though since they can be trained to help you hunt for food.
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>>320224172
>get loyal companion
>or shitter that runs away all the time with no use
Id eat a cat over dog any day.
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>>320224437
Ghouls don't need to eat because they get all their energy from radiation or some shit. I don't know about drinking though.
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>>320224671
They can probably just chill in radiated water and absorb it along with the rads.
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>>320224671
the radiation inside them is killing them and keeping them alive at the same time.

they still need to eat, drink, and sleep. And piss and shit. Maybe that's what the kid ate and drank for 200 years.
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>>320224437
Lmao that poor kid got hit with the TRUTH
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They're saving it for the DLC.
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>>320224437
I feel like he could have tried harder to make Fallout seem ridiculous.
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>>320223221
Pretty sure Bethesda already legit explained the cat thing
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>>320225162
>tried harder
He's the vice president of Bethesda and in charge of public relations. It's his job to not try.
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>>320225307
they fed all the cats Pre-War Jet so they could run away from everything trying to eat them?
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As much as I like the assaultrons, I think it would've been cooler if every one was a robobrain instead even KLEO.
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>>320220751
Soon...
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>>320224671
Yet there's a quest in Fallout 4 which specifically states that ghouls have to eat in order to survive, and the plot of the quest revolves entirely around it.
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>>320225731
>all kinds of fucken robots/synths you could have for companion.
>they give you a black synth because diversity means only a black male, not a mexican, asian, or indian (dot/feather)

i rather have an assaultron or warbot.
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>>320224843

Kid was in a fridge he had food
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>>320226196
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>>320223768
Where the fuck are people pulling this bullshit from? There's a quest in Fallout 2 where you listen to someone's story about their cat. Or is Fallout 2 non-canon now?
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>>320224440
>Cats can't be trained.
Horseshit. I train odd animals as a passion and one of my cats with a really good memory can fetch, heel, and sit with the same initiative as any dog. Cats are fully trainable, they're just a bit more stupid, and can't be motivated by sheer love of humanity. They have to be starved, or otherwise driven to do it, unless they're particularly cooperative. It's just like training a slow dog.

More than anything, I think the idea comes from the fact that the people who buy cats are shitty, fair weather owners, who keep unsocialized, outdoor cats that bite strangers, only come out to eat, and kill songbirds. I want each of you all to know that it might have been me who shot Mittens, and it was your fucking fault. It wouldn't be the first time, and it won't be the last. Keep your cats indoors, and away from your neighbors property.
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>>320229430
Cats are smarter than dogs though, they have twice as many neurons...
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>>320224437
>proofs?
>lol fuck your logic this is just a game nerd stop taking it so seriously jeez
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>>320226449
Did you listen to the story?
because the post you quoted is pretty much the story
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>>320230974
> californian girl tells a story about how her cat was eaten
> that mean every single cat in the world was killed and eaten too
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>>320231582
The girl mentions everyone was hunting cats
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>>320231747
> californian girl tells a story about how everyone she knew in her very limited area was hunting cat
> that mean every single cat in the world was killed and eaten too
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>>320231747
The girl had a pet cat that ran away and assumes it was eaten
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>>320229430
They aren't stupid, they just have god awful memory.

Dogs remember bad things that they did but cats do not unless you catch them and punish right away.
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>>320231824
yes
>>320231873
her mom ate the cat actually
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>>320222451
>East coast
>NCR
u wot m8
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>>320231915
>yes
no
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>>320231970
>he doesn't know about the New Connecticut Republic
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>tfw you can play as a robro/ghoul/mutant/deathclaw in tactics
fallout needs a new spinoff like this
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>>320231915
i ate your moms cat lmao
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>>320220751
2cute4shoot
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>>320232593
Tactics ain't canon, mate
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>>320222390
Centaurs are in there.

They're just fish for uh....tax...purposes? I assume seafood gets tax breaks in neo-olde-boston.


Anyway honestly I don't mind them missing the robo-brains. I am slightly confused about the jet and the fact that boston must have had a power-armour convention the days the bombs fell, but me at least these are things you adjust to when games come and go. The vision changes slightly and some changes can be waved as adaptations.

No, no fallout 4 has far bigger problems than these. I don't like to focus on the small stuff when the big stuff is that the lighting was done by a four year old, it has some of the worst (and passable) VA work I've heard in a while, it's been fully explored in 40 hours and every character you replay is going to be the goddamn same build because they built customization into the leveling system.
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>>320229430
You failed your bluff check. I do not believe your bullshit.

Source: Magic wizard Vet.
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>>320233695
>boston must have had a power-armour convention the days the bombs fell
There's FOUR sets of power armor in a 5 minute walk radius around Sanctuary, that's ridiculous. They're not even hidden.
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>>320224671
Man, the food in the fridge respawns every 3 days.
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>>320234452
>Power armor turned from a thing to make you not get gibbed by tough enemies into a gimmick that needs recharging ever so often
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>>320220751
They didn't forget Robobrains though, one of the magazines even feature one, they're just not mobs.
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>>320233695
looks more like as if Mudcrab and Chaurus had drunk sex on top of toxic waste barrel
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>>320229430
i wonder who is behind this post
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>>320235304
They also mention them in the robot disposal site
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>>320220751

You were the only robot from the original Fallout with an unaltered model; it was inevitable.
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>>320221930
you give me cancer. CANCER!
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>people actually thought cats EVERYWHERE was extinct

Pretty sure they were even going to appear in Van buren.
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>>320224437
>This man is the Vice President

Fucking hold me. Seriously.
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>>320237923
TB, I'm sorry
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>>320233695
I explain the abundance of power armour by the fact that the brotherhood have only just arrived. They haven't had the chance to steal all that shit yet. In the other settings the brotherhood have control (3) or used to have control (NV). Maybe there was power armour on every street corner before those shits turned up.
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They will bring back missing creatures in DLCs
Also why is no one mentioning Floaters and Geckos
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>>320238604
Because those weren't really featured in beth's fallout in the first place, only NV in Gecko's case.
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WANAMINGO
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>>320229430
this is just bait right?
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>>320239081
is kill
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>>320238604
there's a bunch of concept art for FO3 that shows mutated versions of Floaters and Wanamingos but like 90% of the great work Adam Adamowicz did Bethesda just shat over and scrapted it
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Anyone know when the enclave dlc is coming out? I want to shoot some more nazis just like in fallout 3!
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>>320224437
>Lol whatever nerd
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>>320223768

Cats are eaten but not to extinction retard. Go play the older games.
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>>320239161
:(
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>>320220751

Because you can't fuck it. Fallout 4 is all about fucking robots.
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>>320237647
>Defective Mr Handy, won't stop talking
The horror
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>>320220751
The synthetic dura/csf only has a 205 year lifespan.
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>>320232659
Topkek
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Does fo4 have eyebots?
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>>320239884
Yes. They seem to be much rarer though. I've only seen one.
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>>320222098
Didbt even notice the giant ants missing.
Centaurs makes sense as the Institute was making super mutants and exterminated failed subjects from memory.
Dogs makes zero sense as in Fallout 1 I think FEV killed them
Robobrains missing also makes zero sense.
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>>320238604

Geckos are shit for one. Been shit in every game they've featured.
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>>320232580
Fucking lol
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The whole game lacked interesting creatures, best new idea was the dolphin and you only ever see dead ones.
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>>320237617
10/10
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Why does this game break so hard when you get 100+ fps? I am not sure if it is funny or sad when half the "fixes" to my problems are just people saying "well just force v-sync on and disable g-sync and cap the framerate at 60 fps". There is still literally no fix at all to dialogue and audio skipping at high framerates.
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>>320224440
Dogs are also tougher. From memory (again), there's a reference to one of the major cities on the west coast ended up infested with dogs and people were living in a settlement that was skyscrapers connected with rope bridges and shit because you couldn't reach the ground without getting eaten.
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>>320240216
>Dogs makes zero sense as in Fallout 1 I think FEV killed them
What? Dogmeat is a companion in the original Fallout and one of his descendants (also called Dogmeat) is a companion in Fallout 2.

Interestingly, Dogmeat's original owner was Mad Max.
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Where are the aliens, /v/?
You said there would be aliens, /v/.
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>>320233695
>can shoot out some lights
>can't shoot out most others
Fffffffuuuuuuuck that shit guys seriously.
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>>320239370
They are specifically stated to be extinct.
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>>320240474
Learn to code and youll understand.
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>>320239231
Bethesda couldn't figure out how to animate them, so scrapped them. Kekekekekekek
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>>320240934
I mentally suppressed the lights until now, thanks for bringing that trauma back.

Also

>Some lights are literally GTA III-level quality flat textures floating in mid air.
>Have actual compression artifacts on their edge.
>Don't really cast light at all, just form a halo of light around them.
>default night light is brighter than it is outside right now in the UK.
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>>320240875
Listen to your radio. You find one calling for help
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>>320240587
Think that was Denver.
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>>320222542
>Their fucking roar
>First time i heard it i legit thought the super mutants had a fucking warhorn
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>>320240679
Dogs that The Master dipped in FEV all died I mean. Not just FEV in the air.
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>>320241070
I am not a crew of hundreds with a budget of x hundred million. Also coding is about as fun slitting your wrists.
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>>320241143
General area? I've been wandering all over the place and I haven't seen hide or hair.

Does it have anything to do with that thing I saw flying overhead and crashing in the distance? I literally couldn't find where it fell.
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>>320221770
And vertibird origins.
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>>320241158
Sounds about right. Fuck that for a location in the old fallout games though
>shoot at one dog
>go to work while you wait for thirty fucking dogs to move in on you
>might be done by the time you get home
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>>320241121
>>default night light is brighter than it is outside right now in the UK.
This shit is so fucking bad
It should be dark as FUCK out, there's not anywhere near as much lighting on the ground in Fallout as there is in real life, so there's no reason why it shouldn't be near pitch black out.
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>>320229430
>a bit more stupid

Ah humans, measuring intelligence based on obedience and desire to please.
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>>320241274
Explain?
Sort of a lore fag but not hugely so as it changes so drastically from each mainline game in the series

Huge segue here but I've been reading the Fallout Bibles recently and three head designers had three different opinions on how ghouls came to be. This series was a mess from the start.
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>>320229430
Ouch! Jeez someone should put a warning on this post I cut myself on the edge!
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>>320221770
Ablo blo
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>>320241416
lel
fuck off lovecraft you're dead
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>>320241416
wow its almost like we're the most intelligent beings on this planet, excluding you
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>>320241416
I heard somewhere that dogs are actually more intelligent than cats, but the dog's 'I must obey the one in charge' behavior looks less intelligent than the cat's independence and aloofness. Is there any truth in that?
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>>320224172
Because dogs are useful. Cats are only useful for hunting rats and other vermin.
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>>320241504
Vertibirds were prototype top secret shit being tested in the West,after the War the Enclave continued to develop them so they are extremely rare, in 4 they are basicaly like bikes
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>>320241121
What about all the point lights with no source fucking everywhere that Bethesda somehow missed the memo on in 1999.
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>>320241763
If you're referring to BoS Veritbirds did you forget they pretty much have all of that shit from f3 right?
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>>320241763
Do we know who captured the facility Vertibirds were built in, or whether it was destroyed? An NCR air force would be pretty whack.
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>>320241763
It's a weird discrepancy - the BoS probably did obtain a cess to them and their production facilities after the enclave fell, but at the same time bethesda has ignored development in so many other areas (people forming civilisations and actually clearing areas with dense populations) that it is kinda jarring.
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>Alien Blaster was a monster in Fallout 3 and New Vegas due to it's high crit rate and crit damage
>Fallout 4 Alien Blaster feel like a sightly stronger laser pistol thank to no random crits and shit crit damage
Ayy lmao
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>>320241981
The NCR took it and manage a small fleet, reserved for important things. Like the President.
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>>320222431
Wasn't one of those versions voiced by Wil Wheaton?
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>>320242090
Ok, that's pretty neat. I knew about Bear Force One but I wasn't sure if that was a one-off or something.

I wonder if they'll ever start producing new Vertibirds?
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>>320241913
The Enclave in 3 has them but not too many of them, probably they don't even have the design specs as, from their base they lack the ability to manufacture them so no way the BoS can employ the industrial ammounts you see in 4
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The NCR used to have a mechanized vehicle division. But we cannot be sure now, thanks for the Fallout Bible being non canon now.
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>>320242236
The NCR have access to airfields and fixed wings aircrafts. Expect them to produce some of their own someday or maybe it's already a thing.
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>>320242287
>probably
let's not use assumptions, nonetheless even if they didn't you really think the Capital Wasteland BoS wouldn't be able to build their own? for fucksakes they built liberty prime and did it again.
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>>320242236
>Bear Force One
Still makes me laugh. What a silly pun.
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>>320242236
I think you can see at least one crashed Vertibird if you chose to nuke the Mojave Outpost in Lonesome Road
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>>320242458
Well I'm going on assumptions because fucking Bethesda din't flesh any of that shit out
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>>320241913
>>320241981
>>320242001
That anon was missing the point. In fallout 4 they are pre nukes. Theres a crashed one on the museum from pre nukes and in the intro sequence there is one flying around next to the vault entrance.
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>>320243038
Technically, iirc they've always been pre-nukes, the Enclave took the trial aircraft to produce their own.
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>>320240974
Because a girl said it?
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>>320243226
Nah, House.
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>>320224437
WHAT THE FUCK. this is actually their vice president? if he doesnt take the coherency of their games seriously then why even bother with lore at all?
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>>320243189
>>320243038

>tfw Bethesda ignores their own canon
This is from Fallout 3
>This is a scaled model of a prototype military transport vehicle being developed by the U.S. Military. The XVB02 "Vertibird" is a VTOL ("Vertical Take Off and Landing") craft with an extremely durable armored fuselage and can be armed with a variety of offensive weapons and defensive countermeasures. This is the most advanced aircraft of its kind ever developed, and the military hopes to press them into service by 2085.
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>>320223768
That idea itself is fucking retarded.
Cats can survive just fine out in the nature, and are basically pests when they go feral. The idea that humans would hunt them to extinction, over basically any other bigger animals that are still around in Fallout, is completely moronic.
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>>320243406
>craft with an extremely durable armored fuselage
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>>320224437
The worst thing about the Kid in the Fridge plot is that the basic story could still have worked just fine, if the Kid was stuck in some small underground bomb shelter, or even a barred basement, where he was able to survive on random bugs and moss for 200 years. But no, lets have him be stuck in a fucking fridge for two centuries and be just fine afterwards.
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>>320234653
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>>320243254
I am not House.
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>>320243582
Why the fuck did Bethesda make the Vertibirds so damn weak? They should at least have as much damage and energy resistance as a suit of power armor has.
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>>320230237

Their intelligence is used for selfish reasons though. Dogs will use their lesser intelligence to do/understand what you want.
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>>320233695
Land dreug
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>>320224437
> lol, it's just goofy post apocalyptic shit, who needs any semblance of logic of a shred of consistency?
It hurts me so bad. God, I hate what Bethesda has become.
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>>320244153
because the ones in 4 are just light transports, they're not the proper Gunship variants you see in 3 and NV
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>>320225818
ehm, that's not how it work.
nv is still buggier than skyrim atm.
todd want them to make west coast shit, not touching his previous east coast.
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>you could run away, I am trying to kill you after all.
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>>320238604
why the FUCK would there be geckos in massachusetts. It's already fucked that there's scorpions. I live here and ive never seen a scorpion in my goddamn life
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>Hello sir :3
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