If a modern video game crash were to happen, what series of events would cause it?
>>320217476
Pretty much the same thing with E.T., overproduction for something popular that no one wanted, but it will have to be on a bigger scale.
>>320217476
mainstream review sites exclusively giving 8's, 9's, and 10's.
>oh wait
its going to happen eventually, videogames aren't qualitative sums of parts and eventually people are going to realize they are getting the same slightly more polished turds every year.
>>320217476
Too many fanservice games on a single handheld.
There is already a genre crash happening and that is the Panty Quest localization efforts. Sure you can buy the Asian English version but fuck who knows when the execs in Japan makes a pants on head retarded move and shut that money valve off since they are allergic to money.
Also, one thing that in my mind prevents it is that video games are now the the most profitable entertain medium in America.
I don't think movies can take that back. I mean who cares about the new Star Wars release? Only fans. Who cared about the new Fallout? literally all my friends who haven't played a single Bethesda game.
Nothing except every major console producer simultaneously fucking up so hard that no one wants to give them the time of day anymore, but mostly Americans because the game crash was primarily an American console thing.
The fact that there are so many console producers and such a large variety of game producers and a much larger market makes the whole scenario nearly impossible today.
>>320217476
It won't, we have digital distribution and alternate methods of funding
A major digital distributor dying would be a start.
>>320218467
So, if Steam fucks up basically?
It's not like they can't do that. They almost lost most of their userbase with the paid mods fiasco earlier this year
>>320217476
It wont
The vidya crash happened when adults were the primary focus of games and not children, we have not switched back and will not switch back to that pre crash time.
>>320217840
The crash isn't gonna be related to games reviews you mong. It's gonna be related to how unsustainable the current AAA environment is. These games have budgets in the hundreds of millions of dollars now, and most of that money is spent on marketing. It's just not sustainable.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_develop
>>320219190
Anon, take a step back. That was mostly the internet going into meltdown. The vast majority didn't give a shit because they weren't playing Skyrim.
>>320219242
Haven't children always been the focus of vidya? At least until the 00's?
>>320219445
Don't make him look outside his bubble, man.
>>320218023
>only fans care about new star wars
Do you live under a fucking rock, OP?
>>320219190
>They almost lost most of their userbase with the paid mods fiasco earlier this year
Pfthhahaha
No they didnt, not even fucking close.
>>320219483
No. Video games were initially an adults hobby. Too expensive for children. It wasn't until Nintendo started marketing towards children after the crash that the market switched.
>>320219351
When the fuck did video games start having 9 figure budgets?
holy fuck i thought those numbers were reserved for A-list action movies
>>320219190
>They almost lost most of their userbase with the paid mods fiasco earlier this year
No
>>320219351
That's because western game devs and publishers are retarded.
Hopefully AAA western games die out.
>>320219351
AAA games are like that but there's also plenty of indie games and other small releases. The market is more diversified than ever which would prevent a crash.
Even the original game crash didn't affect all video games. Countries outside of America, PC games and arcades were all still in okay shape.
>>320219351
>number 3
What the fuck? Was FF7 really that expensive?
>>320217476
It's funny how ET is lauded as such a terrible game when it is actually not very bad at all. It's mediocre, at worst.
There's tons of worse shit out there. Game doesn't even deserve to be in the top 10,000 worst games let alone THE WORST
>>320219351
>there are people on this board who are ignorant to the fact video games are bigger business than hollywood blockbusters, and are more profitable as well
No crash is ever happening. If it does, The government will do another bail out because having 40+ multibillion dollar companies going belly up would annihilate the economy.
>>320219738
Well yeah, but businesspeople dont consider indies as part of the industry, just like they don't consider mom-and-pops part of the economy. As soon as one major AAA dev or publisher down sizes because they've hit the limit of how big an entertainment company can grow, the headlines are gonna be "videogames are dead! Companies closing doors!" and the panic is gonna hit investors who pull their money and actually fuck companies up, and THAT will be the next big crash.
>>320219941
I would consider it a crash if the companies got into such a state that they required a bailout.
>>320219351
I mostly see it as a problem for SP only games. There's a pretty huge collection of them out there now and if you aren't a graphics whore they're mostly all available at dirt cheap prices now. There really hasn't been much anything motivating me to buy any of the new ones as soon as they come out.
>>320219941
If anything, there might be an issue in the future where physical copies of games are overproduced because of more and more people switching over to digital. That's honestly the only issue I can even imagine for this industry
Nothing. Gamers (/v/ included) are the biggest group of battered wives in media today. No group in history has been THIS subservient to big business. Whenever a negative change happens, gamers just go apathetic or full "it's hopeless anon, they are rich so they have more rights than us ;-; the world is like my hollywood movies". And for some reason, Gen Zers seem to get REALLY upset when people "complain" about something, even if they have good reason to. The only thing you should ever complain about is people not being as complacent as you and not opening their ass cheeks real wide for the big capitalism dick.
I mean come on, this is a board that defends amiibo, day 1 DLC, and shit like "buy another game and console for this character" tactics. Nothing short of a console causing some sort of gigantic fire that takes out half of the country, will make vidya "crash".
it's literally impossible
>>320219646
Stop acting like you know what would have happened had the fallout been greater.
Here's an interesting tidbit to ponder: right now, SE has to release FF7R in pieces and get people to pay for it in pieces, so that way they can pay to make the next piece. All conjecturing about how big the world is gonna be and what's getting cut aside, that's a well-known company that cannot afford to produce an entire game at one time because it basically amounts to a gamble with the budget. That's pretty telling at where the aaa industry is right now.
>>320220526
Most people do not give a fuck about anything
They're not magically going to stop using steam with all their games on it just because of paid mods
>>320220526
I'm not that guy, but I play lots of video games on steam and I hadn't even heard of the paid mods fiasco, so that's something.
>>320220784
So what you are saying is you have been browsing /v/ 4 months, tops?
Lurk, idiot.
>>320220725
No offense, but the 'average' gamer doesn't control the market. The media backlash would be way too big for Steam to take. Just because little Johnny playing Garry's Mod online doesn't care, it would spread into the mainstream and eventually Steam would be usurped by something else.
>>320220868
>taking any actual news from 4chan /v/
More than half the threads on this board are shilling, advertising, false - flagging and trolling. If you read something here and think "oh shit, this is serious!" without seeing it somewhere that's not a total shithole, you really are in a bubble.
>>320221509
But you stated you never heard of it. It was non-stop when it happened so it's impossible you were browsing then and didn't at least see the threads. You might as well say you were here Aug 2014 but never heard of that GG thing
>>320220069
Companies like Activision Blizzard don't just play with that limit. They hire as they require, and they make games.. apparently that have some place in the market, whether from low amounts of saturation or from innovation.
>>320217840
>people are going to realize they are getting the same slightly more polished turds every year.
No they won't.
They never do.
>>320221708
All that takes is decent journalism and critique. Setting up decent criteria for game review is simple, and literally all outlets could benefit from that.
>>320221363
The average gamer is the market
So, first the fallout would have to have been so huge that major media outlets picked up on it and ripped Valve apart to the point where dudebros were talking about it in their classrooms, then some other platform would have to be just ready to provide the same kind of service Steam does, and then people would still have their shit locked on Steam which makes it very unlikely for them to switch because they're not going to use two services simulataneously
>>320221615
I swear before my mother and all the saints that I have never heard of the paid mod scandal, and I have browsed /v/ daily for nearly 6 years, with some minor breaks for military duty. I do not play skyrim, sp it is likely that I did not read any threads about skyrim stuff. This would be even more evidence in my favor: that outside of the skyrim community, this might not be as big a deal as inside it. I regularly catch news shows at college and read newspapers and talk to people in video game clubs, and I have never heard of a steam paid mods scandal.
>>320221983
I don't believe you and never will. To me you will always be a newfag, the same cancer that ruined this board more than SJWs could EVER ruin vidya.
>>320222201
Alright man, you do that. Have a nice day.
>games just as bad as E.T on the Atari were made since the Crash of 83 was over
>even Ride to Hell: Retribution wasn't enough to cause a modern-day video game crash
OP, I know you were talking about a hypothetical situation, but come on now.
>>320219941
The government isn't going to bail out video games, you tard.
>>320222440
it's not about there being worse games, it's about games being that bad that are meant as box-office hits and are marketed as such
ET was bad because it had the ET name
>>320222642
The government bailed out the fucking porn industry you doofus.
>>320217476
>AAA developers start cutting off content and sell it as dlc
>start slicing their games into pieces and sell "part 1", "part 2", each for full price
>pay2win even after you paid for the whole game
>indies seem like the only hope
>nope, they do the exact same shit, but with "early access" titles that never get released
Oh wait, this is already happening and everybody is fine with it
>>320222642
>>320222702
Solid water is called ice, dipshit.
>>320222686
So, the key is getting the masses to stop purchasing whatever they feel like.
The only answer is decent game critique and market standards.
>>320222686
>it's not about there being worse games, it's about games being that bad that are meant as box-office hits and are marketed as such
>ET was bad because it had the ET name
And now a common phenomenon called the Problem with Licensed Games is a thing, making people a little more wary about such games.
>>320218023
idk a lot of people seem to care about the new Star Wars anon
>>320217476
Simultaneous, catastrophic meteor impacts in every capital city in the world.
The only way the modern videogame market crashes is if the entire global economy does.
>>320219838
Yeah. The crash was well underway by the time ET actually hit the shelves and it became the one symbol of the crash because people saw shelves full of ETs nobody wants to buy. Over time people confused this to mean it was the worst game ever made and the rest is bandwagoning.
>>320218023
thing is anon, they can't put out a new star wars every 2 years or so or once a year like CoD and make shit tons of money.
>>320219792
it spent more than twice its its dev budget on marketing and i remember all the ads in magazines and commercials on tv. though most of those were just saying how many people it took to make the game and all the computers and shit.
and it worked, shit tons of people bought the game, even people outside of the RPG genre which at the time was NOWHERE NEAR what it is like now. it was niche as fuck before FF7 it.
>>320223068
>implying that Disney isn't doing exactly that.
>>320223041
Yeah, people have to personify the crash with one game, so people consider ET an awful game because they think it was 'so bad' it killed video games. Really, they just put waaaay too much faith in one mediocre game.
>>320223041
people see shelves of sports and AAA titles every year and sadly THEY haven't caused a crash yet.
remember? the crash was from quality games not being made, much like today with our yearly rehash fest, CoD, AC, all sports games, farcry unga bunga edition
so how come we haven't crashed again yet? is it because people are buying this shit anyway and back in the early 80's no one was?
>>320224293
Yes, gaming is much more affordable than then. It's also much more of a mainstream hobby, and franchises are not profitable via extended media, such as licensing comics and shit, to Hollywood movies.
>>320223068
Honestly talking out of your ass. That's the entire plan, boo
Too much money in the industry at this point + gaming is too mainstream for it to fully crash.
we will continue getting shitty sports games and other garbage forever. The only difference from the shit games we have today being that in the future everything will be packed to the fucking brim with dlc/microtransactions even more than it is now
>>320217476
a virus that attacks peoples enjoyment of vidya.
>>320226801a virus called /v/
Almost every post in this thread is from the point of view of the bubble of the Internet gaming culture, which doesn't have close to the impact people think it does.
