So The Institute is the best choice right?
>based on science, not politics
>ahead of every faction in fallout lore, sans thetans
>the synths are fucking based, a future we may see real someday in real life.
>>320210534
Why haven't I come across any gen 2 synths besides Nick yet? Those things look terrifying.
>>320210534
You go with the Institute and get an actual story of some sort but endorse racism and kidnapping and murder, or you go with one of the other factions and they half-ass it.
i agree with that. However were the minuteman and the institute to join up, surface operations being delegated to the minuteman and scientific and material support provided by the institute the wasteland would be fucking set. plus it would be a fairly symbiotic relationship, with both sided benefiting.
They're basically a retarded Think Tank played painfully straight
>ignore all the stupid, detrimental shit we've done to the people of the wasteland
>we got SCIENCE up in this bitch!
>>320211046
Think Tank actually managed to create things worth the effort and weren't stupidly evil, though.
>>320211518
they were kind of stupidly evil. they gained fuck all from kidnapping people. why they do the shit they do, im not sure even based Howard knows
>>320210534
>siding with motherfuckers whose stated goal is to "redefine" humanity, and who have shown themselves repeatedly to be a bunch of amoral cunts who will gladly kidnap innocents in order to turn them into super mutants, replace people with synths, slaughter whole communities of people for no good reasons, and manipulate the lives of the people living on the surface to their own ends.
Fuck the Institute. If they had their way, they would probably replace every living human being with a synth, so that they can gain full control of the population. They deserve to be destroyed for the crimes they have committed on the people of the Commonwealth.
>>320210695
theres plenty of em in the institute and usually at least 1 when you fight synths
>>320211726
The Institute used kidnapped humans in their experiments, which included injecting them with FEV.
Also, sometimes they just needed to replace a motherfucker with a synth for their own purposes. The original humans probably were used as experiment fodder too.
>>320210534
Everytime I see the exposed toes it bothers me. Like how oddly shaped they are. There are no way the mechanical toes would look like the toes on the far left if there was skin (or whatever Gen 2s have) over them. They are more like talons on the right. Who thought that was a good idea?
>>320211759
This. Nothing they could say erases the amount of innocent people they've murdered in the name of some nebulous "greater good".
As long as curie's vagina feels like a real vagina they're okay in my book.
>>320210534
>The Institute is the best choice right?
No man, they're fucking it up and taking a piss all over everything
Minutemen is the best choice, because they didn't hurt anyone who didn't deserve it
Shaun sits in his isolated utopia looking down on the rest of the world because he thinks they're pieces of shit. HE is the real piece of shit, because instead of helping to build a better world, he hordes all of the science to himself so he can play with his robots in his basement
The only reasons the institute isn't a crater are that the brotherhood is led by a cvck and the railroad would protect a synth turned raider over the people it kills and their technology is too appealing to give up if it can be reapplied to not being evil.
>>320211759
Eh that's too harsh, they replace people with synths for influence above to get what they want is a valid point.
But they don't just kill people for fun, they only go after thinks they perceive as a threat. I mean Diamond City was essentially founded by them. McDonough was a synth from the beginning, and Shaun even states he hates seeing loss of life.
>>320210534
No, they're full retard.
>"synths are the future!"
>but how do they help people
>"SYNTHS ARE THE FUTURE"
Amazing technology and they do fuck-all to make the Commonwealth a better place. Trust or not, if they can work in the shadows to do shit like kidnapping and replacing people, they could do the same but help people.
Instead they just keep making synth gorillas and studying FEV. Oh boy, they MUST be the good guys!
>>320212295
>But they don't just kill people for fun
It doesn't matter why they do it. They're responsible for innocent people's deaths and a strain of super mutants without the capacity to form a peaceful society it seems.
>threats they perceive
Like the farmer who had the misfortune to be where the institute wanted to perform some experiments?
>McDonough was a synth from the beginning
What? No he wasn't.
>and Shaun even states he hates seeing loss of life.
So does this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OKHAzr-riQ
did they ever explain why the institute went to such lengths to recover synths? you get there and they are shitting out one every minute in advanced robotics. why do they give a shit if synth janitor fucks off and you kill it when they can replace him with identical synth janitor number 2
>>320212675
>It doesn't matter why they do it. They're responsible for innocent people's deaths and a strain of super mutants without the capacity to form a peaceful society it seems.
Eggs, omelets, and soforthon
>>320212295
>I mean Diamond City was essentially founded by them
Uh, no? McDonough didn't found Diamond City, and he wasn't the first mayor.
>>320212295
Diamond city was not founded by McDonough.
Also, while they may not kill people for fun, they still kill them for little to no reason. Universtiy point is a good example. They slaughtered a whole community of people, because a girl living there found something about a pre war tech cache being in the town. Once the Institute got a whiff of it, they marched into the town, demanded the tech to be handed to them (when the girl in question only had vague clues about where it might be), and 3 days later came in and killed everyone.
Plus, I find it very hard to believe that Shaun "hates seeing loss of life" seeing how the institute is the source of Super Mutants in the commonwealth, and he himself refused to stop the experimentation of FEV when Virgil asked for them to stop fucking around with the stuff.
>>320212721
>did they ever explain why the institute went to such lengths to recover synths?
They claim that if one of them stays isolated from the Institute for long enough, that it will just turn into a homicidal Terminator killing machine, and that's why Shaun hates the Railroad
>>320212746
>Eggs, omelets, and soforthon
If it were up to the institute, they'd have jagged edged egg shells with c4 charges in them rain from the sky as they they eat their omelets.
The only good they're interested in is themselves and under father, they're so close minded the write off the idea of civilization and modernity taking holy.
There are a lot of things I'd like to make Shaun sit through and feel, but chief of all is dragging him to the Shady Sands, Shi territory, Zion, or the strip and making him realize how tiny his concept of the world has been.
Bullshit voiced protagonist aside, Fallout 4's plot would have been great if handled by experienced writers.
>>320212972
that doesnt explain why they must be returned alive though. did they ever say something like yeah these bitches are expensive/hard to make so we want it back in working condition?
>>320212972
>and that's why Shaun hates the Railroad
Another thing he's wrong about according to Harkness.
Early models? Sure, but a properly made Gen 3 is a person for intentacles and porpoises.
>>320213285
>did they ever say something like yeah these bitches are expensive/hard to make
It's power consuming and each one represent decades of research, but since all those Gen 3s you see being made are actually just shunted off into a storage room for who knows how long, no, it doesn't seem to be much of a concern.
>storage room
An escaped synth tells you they spend an unknown amount of time standing in the darkness waiting to be called upon.
>>320213201
It would have been great if the "WHERE'S MY FAMILY" shit hadn't been tacked on.
The Brotherhood/Institute/Railroad issue is a genuinely interesting one. It would have been awesome if it had been expanded upon.
But Bethesda really seems to think a sad story about family values fits the Fallout universe, which is why the plots of both Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 are so similar on paper.
Fallout 4's manages to be much worse, though. It's not a bad story, it's just really poorly implemented. It belongs in a different game. The game itself gets the tone just right, but when the story has to happen it's a complete tonal shift.
Like in the beginning how your character facetiously remarks about coming back for the Cryolator, about five minutes after removing the wedding ring from their dead spouse's corpse. It just doesn't fucking fit.
>>320212239
Minutemen go to shit the second the leadership passes from you to anyone less competent than you. So they really just go to shit as soon as you step down or die or something. Christ, I don't think any factions can keep themselves from imploding when the player character isn't around to do fetch quests for everyone.
>>320210534
>there is people forcing FO4 to be good
i am really aghast, its like skyrimfag desperately want another skyrim and delusioned themself that beth made a new skyrim spinoff with sci-fi theme
>I built a perfect society
>only robots live here though
I built a better society than Shaun did, out of scrap wood and tin cans and shit
fuck the Institute
>>320213201
It'd be barely recognizable at that point. Synths would have to be completely reworked for the BoS' motives to make sense (or they'd be played off as a relatively primitive faction, which would be an interesting change of pace), and the Railroad would probably wind up straddling the line between their current ideology and some retooling of that vague, almost superficial "Synths are the future" hooplah the Institute keeps spewing in your general direction. The Institute as a whole would work much better if they actually had presence, carving a synth-secured technocracy out of the ruins of Boston and presenting themselves as immortal overlords uploaded into perfect synth bodies. The story as a whole would be a lot darker and a lot less Fallout-y than it currently is.
>>320211046
>That image.
HATE SHAUN.
>tfw you shot Shaun in his stupid face at the very first opportunity
>>320214052
>Warp into the Institute in full X-01 with enough ammo and explosives to wipe out an army
>Kill every single last motherfucker in there to the last man
>Institute somehow continues to exist after that
>>320213639
I feel like the institute was incredibly underdeveloped. I hate siding with them because post end game feels boring compared to the brotherhood.
The BOS has danse, random patrols/ vertibird drops that can lead to some pretty cool encounters, somewhat interesting characters, liberty prime, etc.
The institute has father, named scientists that might as well be generic npcs, synths, and a no-name courser follower.
It's like bethesda tried to make up for how shitty they made the institute by throwing father in with them so you have a reason to side with them.
>>320215067
>The BOS has danse
>enjoy your aids
>implying you arent king of the institute free to simply kill anyone who you want
>implying you couldnt turn the entire wasteland into the pristine institute within a year
>supporting even more retarded enclave
enclave had a goal at least. why are they making synths in the first place?
>>320217141
the institute isnt the enclave you shit
the brotherhood are literally enclave who branched off
>>320210534
>>320216998
>Implying you shouldn't stop posting your shitty bland OC that's just nora with an eye mod in every FO4 thread you can.
>>320217267
they're written almost exactly the same
except the institute are a bunch of pencil pushing cvcks.
>father has instant teleportation at his command
>never once in 60 years felt compelled to go to the surface
says it all right there
how I'd change fallout 4
synths
>humans designed to not have weaknesses (hunger, thirst, exhaustion)
>brains are modified so they're receptive to augmentation, including control chips
>brains generally function like normal, they're "Raised" a certain way and to think certain things but can rebel against that like any other person - except for the control chip which can cause them to lock down if they defy institute orders.
the institute
>does unethical experiments
>genuinely doesn't care that much about the world above ground (they eventually want to rebuild the world but are much more focused on themselves right now)
>protects and aids certain communities aboveground in exchange for their blanket "cooperation" (initially thought to be just trading/etc but you find out they're replacing people with Synths, experimenting with FEV, etc)
>has a community made up of nothing but synths, and is testing them in normal human society with strategic kidnappings so as to test them for the wasteland and how they work in human society
>they also fully believe in the "mankind redefined" thing - no retardation about making sentient synths to replace mankind then treating them like robots. They also only implement control chips for high-risk synths in delicate positions
>you can join if you prove your scientific worth or defect from one of their enemies with intel
the minutemen
>former provincial government, they were essentially the same as they are now - unorganized and informal - but there was a lot of loyalty between the different settlements who supported them
>the gunners came in, seeemingly from nowhere, and attacked a meeting that was trying to make a more formal alliance between the settlements, leaving the command structure crippled
>gunners now dominate the scenery
>minutemen dissolved
>plays out mostly the same as the game now, except once you take control you have the option to reform them as a competent military/government
>Not supporting railroad
>Not fucking Desdemona in the ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjuQRCG_sUw
>>320217573
it says that he doesnt need anything? i wouldnt want to go out there either lol
they enclave is sort of vault tec and they did crazy bad things to people
not just replace people with synths
WHICH DOESNT EVEN MATTER BECAUSE UR FUCKIN HITLER OR THE INSTITUTE
>>320218048
the brotherhood
>in the process of expanding north from the capitol wasteland
>coming into conflict with the institute because gibe technology
>forcefully expands
>once they learn about synths, they vow to stop their creation but their main goal is still acquiring institute technology/knowledge
>can't be totally dissuaded from being anti-synth, but the elder can be convinced to look the other way on synths and focus on defeating the institute - or convinced that synths are too dangerous and that wiping them out must be a priority
the railroad
>formed by institute defectors and sympathetic wastelanders, it was initially dedicated to helping synths escape and avoid the programming failsafes left in their brains
>now they're dedicated to opposing the institute's moves in the commonwealths; trying to prevent kidnappings, uncover and thwart institute plots, stuff like that
>their biggest goal right now, other than stopping the institute, is to re-infiltrate the institute and gain schematics for the safe removal of control chips
>if you infiltrate the institute with them, you can reform it to be less mad science-y, at great loss of life after the coup
>they can ally with the minutemen
>they avoid the brotherhood, and publicly they're enemies, but you can negotiate a secret intelligence treaty that they'll help the brotherhood if the elder turns a blind eye on them helping synths escape
gunners
>control a few settlements, but literally only just strong arm the settlements they control for supplies
>you find out they were the result of a years long institute op to replace key raider leaders with synths and unite them into one force to unseat the minutemen so the institute could make a move on the more influential wasteland settlements
>basically everyone except the minutemen require you to kill them; you can side with them if you want but it's literally just overwhelming the other factions with raiders and turning the commonwealth into a gigantic drug den
>>320218071
It says that hes completely out of touch and is actually an idiot living in his little bubble.
Also on full display when he just hands you the keys to everything blindly.
>>320218164
>hands you the keys
so basically the ending of elysium
>>320218071
hitler of the institute
>>320213882
>United front bad
>laughingcolonialblackmanwithlasermusket.holodisk
Nah minutemen is objectivly the best choice, with the minutemen gone the commonwealth can form a unified government ala NCR shadey sands. But every time they tried to do that the institute gunned them down, made everybody mistrustful and complainant in a authoritarian bogyman instead of chosing their own future.
Institue is literally the worst option for humanity, because they are never going to be a civilization, they'd die before leaving their autism bunker with their 3d waifus and killbots
>>320210534
so if the insitute can teleport anywhere, why not just teleport a nuke to the prydwen?
>>320212357
not gona lie it felt real good putting down shaun like that
>>320218484
because the brotherhood has technology that suppressses institute teleportation tech despite never encountering it before
Also because Shaun wanted to defeat the brotherhood with their own giant mech because he wanted to demoralize them or something.
>>320218069
>supporting the railshits
>>320218662
Why the fuck would Shaun care? I think the idea of having their best fucking paladin turned into a synth without them knowing is plenty scary enough.
>>320218069
Gen 2.5s are Data-level. Gen 3s are artificially constructed humans with interfaces built in.
>>320218771
He said he wanted beat them in a way that was so humiliating they'd never want to come back. Idk man. Shaun's not the sharpest knife in the spoon drawer
>>320213882
Welcome to Bethesda games?
>>320218894
>have danse be a synth
>danse goes synth-crazy and stabs Maxson to death
>>320210534
>ahead of every faction in fallout lore
>no power armor
>use the same shitty blue laser gun
>>320213882
Minutemen really aren't even a faction, they're a bunch of dudes who owe you a favor. I wish you could choose to reform them as an actual force with training, discipline, and a command structure, because in their ending they have the exact same flaws that they did before the collapse.
>>320219004
no, he was stabbing maxson while shouting AD VICTORIUM
>>320210534
>better than all other factions
>never played Old World Blues
They literally could end the world at a touch of the button if they wanted to with their cloud of theirs
Institute would get raped in just about any field of science
>>320219004
Except that's not how synths work. The only real control you have over a synth is what memories they start out with and the emergency recall code which shuts them down. Considering Danse has no recall of being an institute synth, he was was probably a synth that the railroad helped escape, who chose to become a Brotherhood member.
>>320219387
>chose to become a brotherhood member
nigga are you dumb
>>320215067
>It's like bethesda tried to make up for how shitty they made the institute by throwing father in with them so you have a reason to side with them.
There is really no reason to side with the institute other than that. It's why I ended up going brotherhood
>>320219121
minutemen is just the choice for if you hate everyone else. kind of like just going solo in NV, here you just fuck off with your personal army.
>>320212357
>Shaun calls the death of my wife - his own mother - "collateral damage".
>Back out of the conversation, and kill him and every last Institute bastard I can find
>>320219387
except that's fucking wrong
>>320210534
>based on science, not politics
You say that like it's a good thing, that's fedora-core to be proud of.
>>320219486
The synths who are actually infiltrators know they're on a mission. Danse doesn't. The only logical conclusion is that he chose to join them after escaping the institute and receiving new memories.
>>320219841
despite what todd howard thinks, you can't just "decide to join the brotherhood of steel"
>>320219927
>m-my headcanon
They literally recruit random nigger tribesmen you retard.
>>320219927
Bitch at toddy boy, not at me. The brotherhood of steel as it exists now recruits wastelanders.
>>320219841
>join the brotherhood as a synth
he was a paladin, you don't get to join as a paladin you dense faggot.
He was from rivet city before, which is well outside of commonwealth territory unless their genius plan was to go back twenty years, make a baby synth, then decide to do fuck all with him.
Danse was handpicked by Maxson to go to the commonwealth, and had records in the brotherhood backing up his story about being inducted by another paladin back in the capital wasteland.
Unless you want me to believe the institute forged the brotherhood archives AND brainwashes maxson
>>320210534
>best last hope for mankind
>NCR, Vegas, Reno and a hundred other settlements starting to band together under one banner not including Brotherhood tech pirates
What is their plan? To outlast everybody? the brotherhood tried that its not going to happen, so unless they start apocalypse 2.0 which i wouldnt doubt they would after a jet induced syth sexbot gangbang, they are going to die in their hole.
>>320220157
>he was a paladin, you don't get to join as a paladin you dense faggot.
You do in the west coast brotherhood. Like I said, bitch at todd, not at me, but the brotherhood is no longer caste based, and scribe/initiate/paladin/sentinel are all ranks, instead of castes.
>He was from rivet city before, which is well outside of commonwealth territory unless their genius plan was to go back twenty years, make a baby synth, then decide to do fuck all with him.
Or, you know, he was created as an adult, and the railroad gave him fake memories as a a capitol wasteland orphan (since they've been evacuating synths to there for at least 10 years).
>>320219669
>shock he would see no value in a dead parent he never knew and only found out about in his 40s when he took over the Father job shit.
There is a lot fuck up about F4 but Shaun's personality and motives are actually accurate
>>320220607
Did you seriously ignore the rest of his post?
>Danse was handpicked by Maxson to go to the commonwealth, and had records in the brotherhood backing up his story about being inducted by another paladin back in the capital wasteland.
H A N D P I C K E D
Maxson KNOWS Danse.
>>320220607
Did you play the game?
You start as an initiate, then get promoted to knight and then paladin.
Even if they gave him fake memories there is the problem OF THE BROTHERHOOD KEEPING ARCHIVES OF EVERY ONE OF ITS MEMBERS AND MAXSON TELLING YOU THAT HE HANDPICKED DANSE TO GO INTO THE COMMONWEALTH AND CITES HIS LIFETIME OF SERVICE.
>>320220650
He should have enough common sense to realize using such words to describe an emotional person's dead mate is a bad idea, which I proven by blowing his fucking head off.
>>320219669
Should have been a [slap him] option for females or a [punch him] for males
I don't care if you're an old ass man, you treat your mother with respect
>>320220805
>>320220824
>danse arrives in the capital wasteland with fake memories of having grown up there
>moves to rivet city and starts a store
>joins the brotherhoods during a recruitment drive
>moves up through the ranks
>eventually achieves the rank of paladin after years of hard work and loyal service
>during this time, maxson takes note of him
>chooses him for a mission later because he's served loyally for years now
how unironically autistic are you
>>320218884
>Gen 3s are artificially constructed humans with interfaces built in.
Why does everyone say this when there are several statements and conversations made that make it clear Gen 3s are like the Terminators
Hell Ghouls trigger the robotic brains and make them spase out and reveal themselves. It's what lead to both the Noodle shop massacre and Not mayor kicking them out later.
>>320221103
>fake memories of having grown up there
>at the age of 12
>for your plot to make sense they would have to purposely create danse for the expressed reason of a contingency for a situation they had no idea would even come about and in a part of the world they gave zero fucks about
>>320221103
>I have to literally make up head-canon just to make this one character actually work in the game
Off yourself
>>320221103
Is it possible Danse is actually the Synth you save in FO3 then?
>>320221031
In 50 years when Bethesda finally programs people to react to you aiming at them with a gun (down the sights to prevent accidentally doing it), situations like this will be great. There's been so many times I've done it to someone because they said some shit to me that would've gotten them a punch/slap.
>>320220847
>He should have enough common sense to realize
And who taught him this magical sense?
The morally pragmatic Institute that she anyone that's not them as just animals and test subjects?
His entire childhood was in an underground science lab full of 3rd generation science workers that see concepts as family and friends as side projects and hobbies
>>320221228
>Why does everyone say this when there are several statements and conversations made that make it clear Gen 3s are like the Terminators
The Gen 3s you encounter in the Institute only act robotic because if they start showing emotions they're mind-wiped until they're a potato again. When allowed to develop, they end up on the same level as your normal everyday human.
The ghoul thing may just be the Institute's ideology coloring them. The Institute are by majority bigoted shitlords.
The game needs to do more to suggest that synths are dangerous. 99% of every synth you meet is peaceful and kind, so there's no credence to the Brotherhood's idea that all synths need to be annihilated. The only "bad" synth you ever meet is the one who thinks he's a raider.
And this is after you've met Nick, who's rad as shit. Why would I ever take a negative stance against synths when they're all helpful, peaceful people?
>>320211726
I think they were only stupidly evil because mobius reprogramed them. The way i looked at the dlc was things were comically old timey sci-fi movie because mobius fucked with their brains. If you had gotten there before that it probably would have been much less cheesy
>>320221391
nah cause you learn both of their synth names and its different
>>320221606
there's also ash, who tries to off you and his original if you talk the human ash down
>>320221269
>they would have to purposely create danse
Danse was a railroaded synth
>>320221653
>there's also ash, who tries to off you and his original if you talk the human ash down
The synths who are assholes are by majority the ones loyal to the ideology of The Institute. The one that became a raider just exercised his free will in doing so. Better men have become raiders over less. Hell. He had the sense to try and bargain with you.
>>320221691
Aight, if he is a railroaded synth, with memories they created, why does the institute have all his information on their databanks?
>>320221842
>Aight, if he is a railroaded synth, with memories they created, why does the institute have all his information on their databanks?
The Institute has a picture, and it's a plot hole due to terrible fucking writing that his face wasn't changed as per standard Railroad procedure.
Basically, Bethesda are horrible.
>>320221269
or
and bear with me here
the railroad, who is responsible for every escaped synth and who also tends to give synths new memories when they escape
helped danse escape
and gave him new memories
i literally don't get what's triggering you so hard here. it's not some dumb institute plot. for all we know, his only job before escaping was mopping the floors. literally nothing contradicts him being a railroad aided escapee, because the only people he definitely knows are people he met after becoming an adult.
>>320221379
>connecting two and two based off whats in the game is making up headcanon now
You first my man
>>320219669
>says he's standing in front of me, unarmed
>kill him
>loot automatic laser pistol
>>320221842
The institute allowed him to be railroaded after planting subconscious instructions to join the Brotherhood and strike the Railroad as a Paladin, obviously. Two birds with one stone
Sure its a stupid idea but this is a stupid game
>>320221928
It's not standard railroad procedure. Escapees get new memories if they want, and new faces if they want. They can choose to keep both. And with a face like Danse's, why wouldn't you?
Shaun confirmed for worst son possible. That's what I took away from this game.
>>320221602
There is a terminal in the institute where a scientist is bitching that the gen 3s robotic parts go haywire if exposed to high amounts of radiation and that could pose a serious issue to keeping cover
One of the conversations you can have with not mayor he states that he's effected by high rads and while it wouldn't kill him it could reset his programming.
Also Glory tells you they graph flesh onto machine when they make gen 3s head and torso
They are not just meat clones with a remotes in them.
>>320221842
>why does the institute have all his information on their databanks?
The scribe notes that they tested Danes's DNA with the list of awol synths
>>320221961
I'd be less triggered if what you said had any evidence.
Danse is an institue synth, there is no ties with him to the railroad, and all signs point to him being an existing brotherhood member who got abducted and swapped in the night, to the surprise of everyone, including Danse
The problem I have with him being a synth from the beginning is that there are no other synths who happened to join up the brotherhood, which would actually be a more interesting plotline.
At this point, Maxson could be a synth and it'd make more sense because of the oogie boogie institute
>>320221842
What do you mean?
It's stated that they discovered him by testing his blood with the synth runaway list you bring back
Does no one actually listen to what is being said in game and jest assume shit?
>>320222171
Go look at the process they're created. They're literally meat clones with remotes in them, probably in the brain. That's why the sanctuary shitters can only identify synths via autopsy.
>>320222171
>Also Glory tells you they graph flesh onto machine when they make gen 3s head and torso
The process of making Gen 3s is shown as a repeating animation in one room of The Institute. They're assembled bone by bone via robot arms. Then things like muscle and tendons and veins are 3d-printed onto the skeleton. And then they're dipped into some liquid skin goop that forms their epidermis.
They're made from human DNA. The process creates an unconventionally created human being.
>>320222171
>There is a terminal in the institute where a scientist is bitching that the gen 3s robotic parts go haywire if exposed to high amounts of radiation and that could pose a serious issue to keeping cover
There are plenty of synths in Goodneighbor.
>>320212675
>What? No he wasn't.
I'm pretty sure he was, too. I remember them talking about how they had the synth win the election itself by playing up the residents fears and stuff, like the "ghoul problem".
>>320222296
>Danse is an institue synth, there is no ties with him to the railroad
except what the head scribe states
>The problem I have with him being a synth from the beginning is that there are no other synths who happened to join up the brotherhood
Well for starters Des stated they help hundreds of synths escape so that's not a big pool to end up there and If Dasne was an institue synth as you think he is then I picture it be hard as fuck to replicate Brotherhood training and personality, he's not some random trader that you just have to worry about small shit like eat an breath, this syth would have to know the Brotherhood inside and out.
>Maxson could be a synth and it'd make more sense
No it wouldn't stop being a drama queen.
>>320222319
>Does no one actually listen to what is being said in game
>implying they have played it
>>320222296
Except that there's no evidence he's an institute plant either. In fact, there's evidence against it. Considering that Institute synths are aware of their true purpose, and danse has no idea.
>and all signs point to him being an existing brotherhood member who got abducted and swapped in the night, to the surprise of everyone, including Danse
literally no signs point to that. Danse never mysteriously disappears because that would be a huge fucking deal, especially since the process of grabbing enough of their memories to make a convincing copy would take so long that Danse actually showing back up after being missing after all that time would be suspicious as fuck to the brotherhood.
There are literally 2 reasons a synth might be in the wastelands.
A) they're an institute plant with a mission to carry out (disproven since danse's situation is literally nothing like any of the other synth plants (he has no recollection of a mission and there's literally no mention of him in the institute other than his DNA being on file).
B) The railroad helped them escape
Since A has a mound of evidence against it, let's go with B since that is literally the only other option
maybe instead of having the Institute kidnap people have it be a terrible misunderstanding.
>random settler goes missing while on a walk cause raider/deathclaws/mutants/molerat etc some horrible natural causes
>Railroad hears this guy is missing
>perfect place to put a railroaded Synth as
>gives him/her missing persons face and memories/or claim they have amnesia
>Synth takes over missing persons life like it was actually him/her, every ones happy
>Institute tracks it down, snatches it, people then think the Institute kidnaps random people
>>320222904
Danse's secret Institute synth mission was to turn straight men into homosexuals and usher in the downfall of humanity.
>>320211046
needs better formatting
>>320222996
The institute would be a better faction if they
A) weren't retards about synths (lol mankind redefined but don't treat them as humans we are so smart :^D)
B)Owned up to the fact that they view the people on the surface as a means to an end and stop pretending they're almighty benevolences
C) actually had anything to show for their research except Synths. Synths are literally their only real innovation. Imagine if they had loads of different technologies and researches to show for their work, a la old world blues.
>>320216998
Nice white haired nora with retarded eyes. Have you not gotten the memo that everyone thinks this shit looks stupid? Why do you post this in every fo4 related thread?
>>320223321
Synths being their only advanced tech was retarded.
No suped up power armor, robots that aren't Synths, Medicine that can cure cancer, or even anything much more advanced than Big MT has produced not to mention the vending machines in Sierra Madre.
Even their weaponry, lasers they've been working on for 200 years...are weaker, bulkier, and just all around not as good as standard laser guns. but hey, they are blue thats something!
Plus I always figured the real reason the BoS invaded the Commonwealth was not because offended by Synths existing, but because Power armor is literally fucking everywhere.
>>320210534
>based on science, not politics
The institute is the most politically divided faction in the game, they have no unified vision and are constantly fighting among themselves over the pettiest and most stupid problems, every department is like its own shitty little nation state that has it out for all it's neighbours, and the actions of each individual faction are so pointlessly abhorrent on occasion that their own people are betraying them to the outside world constantly, it's a fucking powder keg.
>>320224584
Oh man
Imagine a game about exactly that, an underground scientific research bunker that is absolutely torn between its divisions. Where there's espionage, stolen research, defections, and occasionally outright violence.
>>320222904
>>320222808
yeah I was a complete idiot and got my shit wrong.
Thanks for not just calling me a faggot and discussing it.
My last question is, is there a way to test someone's blood to see if they are a synth, or did they find Danse because his blood sample matched what the institute had on runaways or whatever the case maybe?
>>320226032
The latter. The people at covenant have literally no moral restrictions, and they're completely unable to reliably identify synths without killing them to perform an autopsy.
>implying anyone admits they were wrong on /v/
I'm on to your ruse. You won't catch me off guard that easily
>>320223069
kek
>>320223816
>No suped up power armor
Honestly I was expecting the Institute was going to be the explanation for the X-01 Power Armor but nope, it's just there lol
>robots that aren't Synths
again, from sneak peaks I thought that was going to be the story behind Assaulttrons sense they had a womanly figure and seem impractical for military contract
>Medicine that can cure cancer,
and yet Somehow they could make Kellogg immortal...at that fucking rate you think they could undo ghoulism.
>Even their weaponry, lasers they've been working on for 200 years...are weaker, bulkier, and just all around not as good as standard laser guns.
In all fairness game mechanics have always suffered in that department where you are told this is the super tech when in gameplay it's no where near that powerful.
>Plus I always figured the real reason the BoS invaded the Commonwealth was not because offended by Synths existing, but because Power armor is literally fucking everywhere.
I thought they were just expanding for the sake of doing so, was rather confused they knew so much about a secret society that no one had any hard evidence on.
>>320226032
>or did they find Danse because his blood sample matched what the institute had on runaways
It was that and one blood type caught the head scribes eye
It's never stated what type but since he caught it I wager Danse must have been AB Negative since that is the rarest blood type in the states and would be the only logical approach to just randomly do a blood test
but again this is Bethesda so I could be giving them way to much credit.
>>320221031
Shouldn't be hard
>Add a random swearword to your character
>He hits them in the dick/face/shoots them ala VATS if lethal, bitchslaps your son otherwise, this makes him fall down
