ITT: Useless weapons/upgrade/abilities nobody ever used ever.
literally who got iron fist perk?
The Ricochet Upgrade for the machine gun in Bioshock 2 is at best useless and at worst an easy way to accidentally aggro a Big Daddy because a bullet bounced off a wall into his back.
>>320203782
>pic not related
I'd say Artemis much closer to that; NEEDS gunslinger to be useful and is super situational/only good for Leviathan Heart/temperance wagon/combo vids.
>>320204798
Artemis had its niches though, the triple charge on it was idle for some enemies and bosses.
But Spiral just had not use whatsoever and couldn't be well controlled with its BS RNG richocet.
>>320204372
Shit, i remember that upgrade, it was fucking terrible.
It's either this or the Reach AR.
>>320203782
I used it.
>>320204140
You mean life giver.
>>320203782
I used Spiral a lot up until I got Kalina Ann basically.
Honestly although I found it to be the least useful gun in DMC3, I kinda want to go back to it now once I finally go back to that game. There's a lot you can do with it in Gunslinger that I've seen in combo vids. It might be underrated.
>>320204798
To be fair, Gunslinger makes Artemis one of the most useful weapons in the entire game.
>mfw Multilock
>>320203782
I used the shit put of that gun because of its knockback. It manhandles your foes.
Spiral doesn't deprecate Style points with repeated use. It's one of the best ways to keep a high style rating in a crowded room with cancels.
OP's a fucking scrub if he didn't use this weapon.
>>320203782
>He didn't know about Spiral Canceling with Royal Guard
Lmaoooooooooooooo
>>320208375
hah you reminded me of this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wACLATBgWws
Gue'la's/Monkeighs need not apply.
>>320206915
I fondly remember my time on a AR only server on Rat Race. It was good fun.
I was pumped to use this piece of shit too.
>>320206915
i'm sorry, i could have sworn you were just slagging off the best weapon ever created by man-fucking-kind. Why dont you go see yourself to the door and take your broke ass bitch pregnant mother with you, fucking cunty cunt.
>>320208781
>being this heretical
The swimming skill in Deus Ex
>>320204140
Err'y day bb
>>320209371
There are three levels you can skip entirely if you have fully leveled swimming though.
>>320203782
Fuck you. I used that cannon even after getting Lady's rocket launcher, its range/power combo was easy to exploit.
Pistols were the only shit guns in DMC, usually.
>>320203782
The Tempest from Ratchet and Clank 3
>>320209675
>Pistols were the only shit guns in DMC, usually.
Pistols are only useless in the first DMC iirc.
Guns in general are supposed to be OP as fuck in DMC2, including E&I
In DMC3:SE, E&I are certainly useful as fuck. In fact, they're one of the best ways to deal with Cerberus, plus you have the demonic charge, Wild Stomp, etc.
In DMC4 iirc, they're more useful than the shotgun.
>>320208781
I thought Ultramarine weapons are supposed to be red?
>>320209675
>pistols
>best gun in 3
>shit
This is some next level bait
>>320204140
Rank 4 of Hacker was worse.
>When hacking, you never get locked out of a terminal when things go wrong.
But you can always stop before using the final guess and try to guess again. Time stands still while you're hacking, you get no bonus for doing it in your first go - there's no reason to get this rank.
>>320209886
I bet you only do 3 hit combos. Or think you're actually do bretty gud cause you use cerberus.
Any instakill spell in any JRPG
>doesn't work on bosses
>no point in using it on regular enemies
>>320209928
>>best gun in 3
If we're talking about projectiles period, then Summoned Swords are easily the best 'gun' in 3. The best 'guns' in the series actually, ironically enough.
>>320210035
Nigga do you even have reading comprehension?
And why would I only do 3-hit combos, just b/c I recognize that E&I are very good in DMC3, which they are?
>>320209967
That goes also for the Computer Whiz and Infiltrator perks in 3/NV
Seriously why the fuck would I EVER want to use Force Lock?
>>320209238
Anon... I like the gun too but it's fuck all worthless on higher difficulties
>>320204140
>not punching your way through the commonwealth while rocking a huge moustache
First thing I leveled.
>>320203782
Useful when you were not a Gunslinger because of it's stopping power and destroying range.
This was one of my favourite weapons in the game.
The Artemis on the other hand however, is the one i consider useless, despite being extremely useful on Gunslinger, however that's not my playstyle.
>>320210291
Not doing legendary run using only glorious UNSC weaponry. What are you a covie lover?
>>320203782
Pairing Spiral with Kalina Ann was extremely useful in DMD to stagger enemies in groups. Same thing for the fight against Arkham.
This and the Chinese pistol. Why EVER use them. You leave the damn vault with a better weapon. Damn it Bethesda.
>Malaria
>>320209886
E&I were amazing in Devil Trigger in DMC1 what the fuck are you on about.
>>320210813
Their purpose is to the garbage guns of the wasteland to used only by Raider scum and poor wastelanders, my son. You are free to use the 10 mm you start the game with.
>>320209967
When I took it, I thought it was going to be like Lockpicking where you can break a pick. Basically Easy Mode, Never Fail, Spam To Win. Just unlimited password guesses.
>>320206974
Life giver is a great health bonus, especially if you're only at the 2 End.
>>320211004
Were they? Admittedly I don't know DMC1 all that well.
But then, pretty much almost every other weapon were more useful. Only the demonic laser weapon were more useless, I think.
Shotgun was certainly more useful, especially against the flying ghost enemies.
Grenade gun was pretty much the most useful gun in the game iirc for just about any other situation. Did great damage, awesome crowd control, and was even better in Devil Trigger.
>>320209886
Ebony and ivory suck huge chode in 4 though.
>>320204372
I love ricochet abilities in games and always get them, fuck you.
I bet you never knew the fun of ricochet in Medal of Honor: Underground.
Why the fuck would anyone buy this piece of shit when you could buy a handcannon or just use the stock 9mm?
>>320209371
Rebreathers, Aqualung and Health Regen all do its job for it. Such a worthless skill.
>>320211337
Dante in general is nerfed in DMC4
Still, I've heard that E&I are supposed to be stronger than the shotgun in DT mode. I've heard people say not to bother with the shotgun much.
>>320211597
Bigger magazine than the handcannon, easier sight to aim down, faster fire rate and at high marksman level the difference in headshot damage is negligible.
Angel Evade in DmC
Also these
>>320210254
When picking a very easy lock with 100 lockpicking, since you have a 100% chance of doing it.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/McWF4Ew.png "latest[1].png")
>>320203782
>shit damage
>shit ammo
>still requires 50 Guns skill to use
>integrated silencer but not a holdout weapon so you can't sneak it into places
>rare as fuck to find especially if you are a collector
>has only one useless upgrade which is extra ammo capacity so you can keep shooting shit damage bullets
what the fuck were they thinking
>>320212075
What gun is that? I've played New Vegas 3 times through and haven't seen it.
>>320212181
Silenced 22 SMG
Some of Benny's guard carry them
>>320209927
Only if someone forgot to file the giant U laurel off of them before painting
>>320210291
other than the fact that it's 100% accurate out to infinite range on the first bullet? Do you not snipe with the MA5B? Ma5b + pistol/needler was easy-mode for legendary
>>320211482
It's fucking shit anon. The machine gun already does low damage, it's just the rapid firerate that makes up for it. Ricochet bullets from that thing are fucking impossible to aim correctly, more likely than not you hit shit you didn't actually want to, and even if you do it it does piss poor damage.
The fact is there isn't enough power to the people stations to upgrade every weapon, and comparing that to say the tesla shock shot for the shotgun or the other tier 3 or even 1st tier upgrades shows the ricochet upgrade is horrible.
>>320211925
But the base damage is so low that they can't even oneshot Crawlers on hard.
>>320211597
>not using the MK23
It does slightly less damage than the hand cannon but has better sights, a bigger mag, a bigger amount of mags, a faster firerate, and the sound from firing it is orgasmic. Fuck you.
>>320212524
...Unless you're a sharpshooter, doofus.
Ragnarok Online, lots of cards introduced at the same time or slightly after the third tier jobs (where your character reborns or some shit).
>5% more chance to obtain meat from enemies that have 2 dildos stuffed up their butthole
Might as well just not make the fucking cards.
>>320212524
>so low
I mean if you're using it offperk than yeah use the handcannon but if you're using sharpshooter it oneshots crawlers.
>>320209194
But anon, that range!
>>320203782For some reason I like using it.
>>320212240
That explains it. I always got Benny to come up to the penthouse alone so me and Boone could beat him to death with pool cues.
>>320212713
what game you talking about senpai
Only gets bought ironically, negev is at least a bit useful
>>320212864
The unique version's pretty good for sneak builds desu
>>320212836
Man, I love the beast cutter.
Both transformation attacks are murder and its R2 transformed is very useful. It's not quite as good in its regular state, though.
>>320212932
>beat him to death with pool cues
>not convincing Swank to let you carry all your weapons with you
>>320212864
>>320212075
>>320210813
not every weapon is actually for the player to use, these ones in particular are for enemies.except the .22 smg man with better crits that thing is a beast to most shit.
>>320212951
Killing Floor you tosspot, what game are you talking about.
>>320212951
Slaying Ground
>>320210813
It's the same with the mauser in Fallout 1 and club in 2. World building and nothing else.
>>320213108
>implying i don't know how to convince him with the cigarettes + lighter
I went in with all my weapons the first time and Boone still picked up a pool cue and started going to town, I joined in and it was prettyfunso I've been doing it since.
>>320203782
i mean its a direct upgrade to stock but it still sucks donkey balls in comparison to the other options
>>320211597
>tfw no MK23 in KF2
>>320212713
>>320212792
Wait, I thought sharpshooter bonus damage only applied to headshots.
>>320203782
that gun is good.
>>320213352
They got bonus damage to weapon + headshot bonus damage.
>>320213625
but that's wrong
![D220059E5BFD03C2EEB4C7591CD7C65FBE17C485[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eJP4Jd3.jpg "D220059E5BFD03C2EEB4C7591CD7C65FBE17C485[1].jpg")
>>320213352
>>320213625
Is this from Bioshock Infinite?
>>320213483
>>320213694
I guess someone should remove that discrepancy from the wiki page for sharpshooter.
>>320210813
I liked to pretend I was a police officer so I used the .32 quite often actually. Then I got the .44 from mothership zeta and never went back.
>>320213315
>instead we get a shitty looking 1911 and some SA revolver no one asked for
1911 should have been tier one, then mk23, then the Handcannon and finally the .500 revolver.
>>320213352
It get's both broski. At level 5 a sharpshooter can one shot crawlers at any difficulty m8.
>>320213625
Semi automatic AR is a better hunting rifle.
>>320213694
Sharp shooter was the most no fun allowed class in the entire game
>playing with a bunch of friends
>OH SHIT FLESH POUND GUYS RUN AND GUN FUCK FUCK
>before anything even happens a sharp shooter one shots it with a crossbow
wow that sure was fun
>>320214253
Coupled with the fact that it has the lowest requirements to level and getting headshots is pisseasy that happened way too often for my tastes. Even better if they were a shitter and missed, because it was almost always an auto-enrage.
>>320214391
Goddamn Commando and other classes was such a pain in the ass to level.
I got my SS to level 6 and I wasn't even try to level it. Fucking headshots.
>>320213625
I think you meant to post this
>>320213625
My fully modded assault rifle is fantastic. Try it and you'll like it.
![LochnLoad[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/UePNk4F.png "LochnLoad[1].png")
So apparently this thing got nerfed. It's kinda fun, but wouldn't even the Iron Bomber be better
>>320214918
explosive mini gun shreds everything at like
I can not find anything as hard as i try and spawn that can survive like one tiny burst of It on survivor difficulty
>>320206174
You're kidding right? Spiral + Royal Guard cancelling makes it completely broken, Spiral Spam alone can get up to a SSS, and that's before you combo it with Guard blocks/releases.
>>320213625
Not sure why they had to make the design so terrible.
>>320215448
the spray-n-pray is basically better in every way though, not even mentioning the fact you can just go buy it
I haven't been lucky enough to even find an explosive minigun on any of my three playthroughs
>>320211820
is he? i dont know, being able to use all styles at the same time is pretty great
>>320203782
Woo boy. Someone doesn't know about cancelling animations. Spiral is fucking god-tier.
>>320214918
>weighs as much as two other guns
>burns up ammo like the Institute burns up logic
>shit damage
Who was the actual retard that coded that fucking thing?
>>320214194
>semi-auto AR
>invested in rifleman perk
>tfw
is good mane
>>320216796
Pretty much anything he can do in 4, he could do much, much better in 3.
I'm not as educated on 4 as I am on 3, but I do know that overall, he is nerfed.
Swordsmaster is Swordsmaster. Idk if it's worse in 4 or not but whatever.
Gunslinger has certainly been nerfed, and so has his guns. E&I's damage input was nerfed iirc, and he doesn't have some moves that he used to, like Wild Stomp. The Shotgun has certainly been nerfed from 3 to 4. Pandora is its own thing.
Royal Guard's Royal Release used to be devastating. It still does tons of damage but not nearly to the degree that it did in 3, I think.
I think Trickster is probably the only Style that were straight up buffed since the last game, although even then, you can't run on walls anymore.
Dante also no longer has crazy combos, has an overall smaller moveset when you factor in the fact that he has less weapons entirely, can no longer do DT Explosion, and has basically no real crowd control moves.
But Devil Trigger as a whole was buffed, so there's that.
>most expensive M6 class ship in the game
>looks like someone jammed engines and spikes onto the iron helmet from Skyrim
>worst turning rate
>worst armament of any M6, one fixed forward gun and one rear turret
>every other M6 has at least two turrets
>second-worst shielding
>huge cargo bay is useless because M6es can't dock with anything but Shipyards and Equipment Docks
>the only thing it has going for it is the speed so it can run away from shit
The all-around worst ship in X2, hands down.
dunno if it's considered as useless but I didn't bother getting this and went straight to the striker instead
>Ctrl F Pipe Pistol
>0 of 0
What the fuck, guys?
>>320218231
I just used the starting shotgun whole game
>>320218338
If the pipe pistol was really useless they wouldn't have made it the reward for literally every boss, settlement, and dungeon.
>>320218338
I hate this gun. I fucking hate how it looks, how it sounds, how it aims. I hate how it appears in every single trunk, locker, gun cabinet in every single building and I hate how everyone and their grandmother in the Commonwealth carries an exact copy of the same god damn fucking pipe pistol.
Fuck the pipe weapons, and fuck Fallout 4 too because I'm bitter.
>>320218338
Mods make it decent. Obviously a regular 10mm is better but if you're in a jam without much ammo for it, pipe anything is ok,especially if you've modded it.
>>320209194
>not catching faggots with the transform attack
>>320212968
Does anyone use dualies? or the Galil/FAMAS if they have a choice?
>>320213625
Why they decided to make the assault rifle a water cooled MG with a side loading magazine is beyond me.
>>320213625
I can't wait until mods fix this piece of shit. it looks so bad it makes me want to die every time i look at it.
>>320213625
>Looks like shit
>Fully modded it weighs over 22 lbs
Just kill me Bethesda.
>>320219413
Going for unique defining wacky/post-apoc designs, by their logic at least.
At least when comparing how FO4's weapons chose the "wacky" side of 3's arsenal, instead of NV's larger "grounded" choices.
>>320211648
>Aqualung
SITTING AT THE PARK BENCH
>>320218338
I used pipe guns early on because I had built up a pile of over 1000 .38 bullets and nothing else uses .38
>>320203782
There's no reason to use this over the Operator or any other suppressed weapon in MGS4. If you feel the need to kill someone, you can just buy more suppressors.
However, the PSS is pretty sexy. I made this the only thing in inventory beside the signal interceptor and cigarettes in Chapter 3 and pretended Snake was a Russian spy.
>>320218231
the striker does less damage per shell as far as I know.
it's also ugly and boring as fuck.
Watch this all the way without skipping and don't spoil it for others https://youtu.be/bLT_pJalsME b
>>320203782
What weapon is this? Image search no longer functions for me.
Did they make 4chan private now? WTF.
>>320221997
Try reading the filename.
Now try reading some of the posts in this thread.
>>320204140
Hold on a sec....doesn't powerfist damage scale with Iron Fist?
>>320220682
I'm probably in a minority, but I actually really like FO4's weapon design, mainly because a lot of the guns actually look like something you'd see on the cover of a 30s-50s pulp scifi magazine.
>>320224410
If anything a lot of FO4's energy weapon designs are too sensible.
This, and it is a total fucking shame.
No scaling with 252 AR with a 40 dex requirement. Fucking seriously? Did they forget to put the S scaling in dex in or something?
>German engineering
With DoT not being what it used to in the first game, only available in Corrosive, abysmal base damage, and UVHM health regeneration barely being beat out by the DoT, no sane person would ever use this gun. Especially when you have to farm for Seraph Crystals to even get this piece of shit.
Tariq, literally the worst champ
>>320213625
Apparently the Chinese AR from 3 was supposed to be the original assault rifle and this piece of shit monstrosity was supposed to be like the LMG from New Vegas. Then they changed it. Fuckin' Bethesda.
>>320224564
Wow. That is the most phallic gun I have ever seen.
This piece of shit.
>>320204372
I've played through this game I don't know how many times, and I never bothered to get that upgrade.
>>320220732
EYEING LITTLE GIRLS WITH BAD INTENT
>>320230484
dude, the charge shot
>>320204798
Artemis combined with Nevan (both are based on charging) is a deadly combo, but both are pretty technical together so they require a lot of proper timing
>>320204372
Machine gun in its entirety can just be ignored there. It's utter shit.
>>320224760
It was a year and i'm still mad.
At least we got a proper energy sword in bloodborne.
>>320219141
The duals are amazing as CT on Dust2 long at gun round. More than enough precision at the range between the long corner and the box and you get to shoot 30 times. I usually down 1-3 terros and scratch the rest by myself.
The galil is shite. You can only hope for luckshots. The FAMAS on the other hand is crazy precise.
>>320234202
>technical
Nevan would be fine if it wasn't for the 4-way directional input shit and DMC3's vague and awkward camera.
>>320209967
Worse is, in FO4 terminals now unblock after 10 seconds automatically.
>>320213625
>doesn't do as much damage as a .308 combat rifle
>can't get as many shots off in VATS because its fucking heavy
literally whats the point?
>>320218338
>"Guys the beta testers say that there's literally no point to the pipe weapons"
>"Hmmmm...... Copy paste them literally everywhere, make ammo for them nearly exclusive to them, and then reduce the ammo spawns for everything else."
>>320232698
>using anything other than the hushpuppy
How the fuck has no one mentioned resistance in DS1
is there are more useless stat in anything? joke stats in meme games do not count, there is literally never any reason ever to put any points into resistance
>MFW most developers still haven't learned the glory that is side grade loot systems with unique effects and abilities rather than linearly increasing stats.
>>320236541
>How the fuck has no one mentioned resistance in DS1
I honestly totally forgot it existed.
>>320236694
Well duh, it's the AK74u of NATO weapons. Entry level shit that broke ass STALKERs who are Western fan boys use.
>>320237620
Except that unlike the 74su you get the L85 around the same time that you get the Abakan and the LR300.
>>320226143
It's one of my most used guns with Maya.
>>320218231
Great at headshotting crowds of enemies since it shoots at shoulder instead of striker's hip, farther range, tighter spread, more stun/pushback, not sure on damage but the spread helps concentrate pellets for more damage per area. Everyone jumps for the striker cause you get so much free ammo and save more space but riot gun was damn good for the rest of the game as well. Starting shotgun was shit though
>>320221642
>tuxedo+skull mask+this
Didnt know i was doing skullface playthroughs before mgs5
>>320213625
Literally the shittiest looking weapon in the entire game. Even institute weapons look better. Too bad they rape your screen space.
>>320218338
WHY DO THEY APPEAR IN EVERY. FUCKING. SAFE.
Fallout 4 is ass in so many places.
