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This game suck /v/. Why not tell me?
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>>320201718
What's wrong with it? I didn't find it to be the best game in the world or anything but I mean it's a competent BamHam clone.
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I liked it. I wouldn't pay for it, but it was fun.
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We tried our best to tell you that the combat was repetitive, shallow, mindless, asinine, frivolous, depthless, shortsighted, deficient, laughable, trivial, and ill-advised.

We tried to warn you man. We tried. It's shitty "mash X the entire game" Arkham bullshit where you don't even need to move the analog stick to target enemies.
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>>320202331
What kept you playing this piece of shit? What kept your interest about it for over 5 hours? I look at this game on on my sony tv on my ps4 and think what a generic waste of money w.b spent on this trash. Please elaborate.
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>>320202845
The combat was easy, but it was fun slaughtering orcs. And the nemesis gimmick was neat for a while.
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>>320202606
Ty anon. This game is atrocious. Look at the color palette? Gray under gray even my character is fucking gray. And i didnt even notice the soundtrack until i started analyzing how bad this game is which says something on its own.
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because do your own research, faggot.
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>>320201718
i thought it was pretty good. Nemesis system was really neat, but there wasn't a lot of replay value or challenge once you understood the mechanics.
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>>320202934
It was cool until I realized how artificial it was.
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Probably one of the biggest cases of buyer's remorse I've ever had, and all I did was borrow it from a friend.

Literally every review and every comment I had seen about the game painted it out to be this truly next gen, unique experience, when all it turned out to be was Assassin's Creed 1 in a higher resolution and in even less interesting environments.
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>>320201718
We did, a few weeks after the shills finally left and stopped making unironic 'GOTY!' threads
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>>320203016
What colors do you expect Mordor to be?

This is the second area btw.
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They should have let you customize your character. Playing as a loli hobbit would be fun as fuck.
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>>320203160
What you didn't point out is that every square inch of that second area uses the exact colour palette of your screenshot, and there are only two areas.
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>>320203301
What other colors do you want? It's a medieval fantasy world.
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>>320203384
Oh I thought you were being serious.
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It has BamHam combat. If you like the combat you'd enjoy the game if you don't you'd hate the game
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AV9W2ZdmjU

It's disgustingly casual and it's built that way so players can fight dozens of enemies at once.

All of these games (AC, Bamham, SoM, Mad Max) need to be fucking purged.
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>>320203016

The absolute best thing you can do is pirate games before purchasing them. There's a reason why devs no longer offer demos, otherwise their sales would be dramatically lower since players would realize how incredibly shallow their Bamham combat is.

A great example is Witcher 3, which I played for about five hours before turning it off and deciding never to buy it. Its combat, which makes the bulk of the game, was just awful.

I'm tired of Assassin's Creed 1 combat being in every single modern action game. For fucks sake I'd rather take a mediocre shooter over it. People say Spec Ops The Line had mediocre combat, but it requires far more skill than Witcher 3/Shadow of Mordor/Arkham/Asscreed.

I'm sick of "mash X the entire game" shallow combat. I like combos, depth, and satisfaction from games.
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>>320201718
i hear the game is shit like asscred.
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>>320203108
Yeah well welcome to modern video games. Gotta extract whatever good you can get, which in SoM was the Nemisis gimmick.
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OP here. Do games really just suck that bad now? I picked up infamous ss along with this and enjoyed that way more even though that was nothing to write home about. Pretty tho
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>>320203551
BISU
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GOD
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it has one of the best features out of any recent game. Its pretty fun, but shallow and repetitive. Could've been GOAT.
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>>320204331
Western action games are now almost exclusively using the BamHam style combat. If you hate that combat system (like me) you won't find most Western action games fun.
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>>320203551
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AV9W2ZdmjU
How does this video not have more views?
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>>320205236

Humour me: describe a superior combat system, citing examples if possible.
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>>320205965
Soulsborne
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>>320205965
Devil May Cry, Bayonetta, Dark Souls

Why? Because positioning and timing matters in those games. You can't just spam invincibility frames or counter in a middle of an attack in those games.
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>>320206432

Forgot Ninja Gaiden, senpai.
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>>320206669
Yeah my bad, just haven't played Black in a long time due to my xbox original breaking down and noemulator
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>>320202080
>What's wrong with it?
Final boss is a QTE.

Game becomes too easy with all the powers past the third level.

If you farm the sidequests you can afford one of the three super powers by the first boss, the guy who throws fire at you.
I got the sword one, and activated it upon encountering that boss. It gave me invincibility and took barely over half of his HP off. I felt like I found an exploit or something, but no, it was all legit.
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Sequel when?
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>>320205965

Pick any action game that doesn't have the Arkham/Asscreed oversimplified combat.

Demon/Dark Souls, Devil May Cry, Viewtiful Joe, Metal Gear Rising, Ninja Gaiden, Marlow Briggs, God of War, Killer Is Dead, Dynasty Warriors, etc.
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>>320207975
wow you sure proved them wrong with your tumblr meme image
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>>320204030
>never die
>nemesis gimmick does nothing
Game is fun piss drunk though.
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>>320207975
That only works when the people you're accusing don't have reasons that they explain.
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>Multiple correct solutions required
Why
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>>320207821
this game makes you feel like a proper badass.
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>>320208253
Bitching about it accomplishes nothing, and it's purely subjective regardless of how many reasons they give.

It's personal preference. You don't like it, that's fine. You don't have to and nobody's trying to make you. So go be a faggot somewhere else.
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>>320208527
even more meme image
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>>320208527
>Bitching about it accomplishes nothing,
Are you fucking stupid? Read the fucking OP.
>it's purely subjective regardless of how many reasons they give. It's personal preference. You don't like it, that's fine.
No one said it wasn't.

You're the one being a fag.
>waaah stop talking about video games on /v/
That's what you sound like.
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>>320208679
I can keep going as long as you can, muffin.
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>>320208679
Good reply there m8o. Focus on the images instead of what buddy is saying :^)
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I still don't know what happened here. The caragor just winked out of existence.
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rip monolith
doomed since 2004 to be wb's bitch boy making shit games from their movie ips
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Who would win in the duel, Boromir or protag of this game?
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>>320208501
That's true, it does. BamHam combat system is designed for that.
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>>320208778
>MOOOOM! I don't have a good comeback for this one!
Just call them a name, sweetie.
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>>320208253
Let's see now, one of the dudes that quoted was bitching about the game having an all gray color palette which is simply inaccurate, the game has quite a bit of color, especially when you get to the second hub.

And one of the other guys he quoted implied that Shadow of Mordor has mash x to win combat, which is also wrong, you need to counter in this game, prioritize targets(missile enemies first, melee after) Take defenses into account(have to stun berserkers before you attack them unless you have a high combo meter, cannot attack defenders from the front without a high combo meter, etc), and this isn't even taking into account how you have to take advantage of the weaknesses the various bosses have in order to kill them. You can't just mash the attack button in this game, that is simply false.
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>>320201718
what you don't like mindless fun? the mechanics are good. it's a fun sandbox if you like fucking shit via melee up in creative ways
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Does anyone know if they're using the Nemesis system in an upcoming game? It's a really great idea and the execution here was not bad.
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It's a fun game.

Anyone who disagrees is just being a typical /v/ contrarian who jerks it to visual novels
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I just hate they the ENTIRE game takes place in fucking mordor.

Boring, just fucking boring. No. I want to explore all of middle earth.

I want to be able to go to some cozy inn at bree after a long day of ranging.
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>>320209873
I feel conflicted now, I like weeb porn and I also like this game. What do I do? Inb4 suicide advice/commands or whatever, I like arguing with random strangers on the chan far too much to ever off myself.
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>>320209926
I wish this game were more of a genocide simulator. It's supposed to be all about how this one man hates orcs so much that he wants to kill them all, and he happens to be immortal. Why not go all the way, and have him try to take on ALL of Mordor, with mechanics for orc population growth and decline? Make the game take place over years, maybe decades or centuries, as he tries to hunt down every last orc in existence, and runs afoul of other Middle Earth characters in the process.
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>thinking about replaying the game
>remember mandatory 2 or 3 quests teaching you to ride animals
Ehhhh...
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This captain killed the beast in like 1 second.
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>>320211549
>guy with Monster Slayer just spams caragor fights until he's level 20
>immune to everything
>randomly shows up while I fight other people to murder me
>eventually get in a position where I can act on his one weakness: being afraid of those wasp things
>knock a nest on him, grab him and immediately slit his fucking throat before he can try anything
Nemesis is fun
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It was a fun little game. Had some neat stuff like the Nemesis system, and it was decently difficult at the start, at least before you get the ability to quickly control people.

No replayability though. And the game itself was surprisingly short. I remember being very disappointed when I realized I was going to the final mission.
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>and it was decently difficult at the start, at least before you get the ability to quickly control people.
Yeah, I really liked the difficulty level of the first tier or two of upgrades. After that it was just too easy.
Why did the final boss have to be a QTE though?
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all these webms are rad, keep it up.

By the way, did anyone else run into major, crazy long load times for this game on pc? I have a decent rig that runs other games really fine but for some reason this game's load times were really 10+ minutes long. It ran fine and then I would die and have to wait 12 minutes to respawn.

I looked everywhere online but nobody else had this problem.
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>>320203656
What has Witcher3's combat to do with assiscreed combat? Witcher is just mash button, and asscreed is wait for attack and parry. completely different.
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Litmus test to see if the game is cancer


It is
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>>320213407
but they're anti-uruk ghost arrows that only hurt things the elf dude wants to kill
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This is my favorite sequence.
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>>320202845
I have yet to play it, but if it's anything like LOTR: ROTK, it's fantastic. Games with infinite-blocking mechanics are fine. The industry is still pretty fresh for interesting gameplay, and combo creativity is much more satisfying than single-button spamming. Thus, those with more potential become less repetitive. Shit's fun, and this particular game is even pretty.
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>>320203016

>gray under gray

Sorry?
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>>320213072
Mash button is much less interesting than mash buttons. I haven't played W3, but the idea is still true.
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>>320214084
>if it's anything like LOTR: ROTK

Let me stop you right there - it's not.
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>>320203016

It's fucking Mordor you god damn neanderthal. Not even the Mordor map is just grey, theres a lot of browns, dark greens, and rusted reds.
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>>320205651
this whole vid
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>>320203551

Why can't you play different games for different reasons?
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>>320205651
This is amazing and so accurate to my experience when recording all these webms. I love it.
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Dropping spaghetti.
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>>320203016
>fucking mordor, land of shadow
>mad when it's grim grey soil and mountains

Are you retarded?
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>>320205651

I'm not actually defending the combat here, I wholly understand how brainless it is, but the random orcs are actually designed to be fodder.
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We did tell you.
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>>320202080

It's basically a musuo. Shallow as fuck. There's nothing to it besides smashing mobs of orcs for 100 hours
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"my power fantasy game is too easy bloo bloo bloo"
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>>320214084

It's nothing like rotk. It's a bamham musuo
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>>320216662
smashing mobs of orcs is a perfectly acceptable premise for a videogame

you're welcome to say why smashing mobs of orcs isn't well realized but otherwise I'm just going to assume you're a faggot who things every game should strive to be a massive reactive RPG
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>>320216512
The captains are usually not that much harder. Some are - I was happy when I came across ones that were hard, because the rest of the game is so easy. Like, the archers with exploding shots. Those guys were tough.

The gameplay seen in that video doesn't change that much between low level and high level. The double executes power helps, and whatever runes he has to recover elf-shot helps too, but the game is that simple from the beginning to where he is there.
It's too easy, that's the issue. Ideally it'd be a balance where you're supposed to sneak and use shadows and trickery to kill the major orc chieftains, because you'd be stronger in the shadows than you are in the light - but still be strong enough in the open to murder a bunch of orcs, like any good LotR hero.

Unfortunately, sneaking around loses its purpose about half-way through the game, half-way through your leveling, as you just become so strong (and used to the combat system by them) to take anyone on, head on. I think the most fun way to play this game will be to only get a few level-up upgrades. A challenge run, basically.
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>>320217027

The only reason I found it enjoyable even though its brainless, is BECAUSE its brainless.

The game actually gives you a lot of room for variety and it doesn't punish you much. The fact that it doesn't punish you much makes it easier to challenge yourself in your own ways.
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>>320217170
I also like when games let you challenge yourself, or decide how much challenge you want. But I can't change the game's core mechanics, as much as I wish I could. I'm hoping the Nemesis system gets improved used in another game, because I really like it.
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>>320203551
>being such a jaded cunt that not only do you consciously take away your own enjoyment from games, you film yourself and share it with others

I know /v/ is all about how everything is shit but come the fuck on.
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>>320217297

I totally agree.

I appreciated this game more for the gamefeel and the atmosphere than anything. I've played it for about 20 hours but I still have yet to finish it.
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>>320217642
Apparently I put 50 hours into it.
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the people who hate shadow of mordor are the same faggots who think just cause 2 is boring because the world isn't interesting to explore or whatever

go shove a dnd rulebook up your ass plebbeards
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