Because StarCraft II sucks ass, this week I reintalled good ol' SC:BW and gave the campaigns a spin. I ended up finishing them all in their entirety (Episodes I-VI), and now I want some MOAR.
So, I have no fucking clue as to what are the best SC:BW campaigns out there in terms of
>Challenge (but not impossible; last 3-4 Zerg BW missions-level would be ideal)
>Story (tasteful stuff please)
Care to help out a fellow anon?
But SC2 has good campaigns and good storytelling.
Its the writing and the multiplayer than sucked
>>320191894
go play the enslavers. made by blizzard. fun and tough
>>320191894
I got these licensed expansion packs for brood war back in the day, dunno if you can find 'em anymore, but I vaguely remember Insurrection being pretty good.
Also, play Enslavers I and II if you haven't already.
>>320192260
They're OK in terms of challenge, but Blizzard's new art department sucks ass. I prefer the original StarCraft's sprites, sounds, music (and gameplay, even).
>>320192397
Played them already ;_;
>>320192495
I've read Insurrection and Retribution are very sub-par in terms of story-telling. Also they're vanilla.
But well, if nothing else is left...
A few weeks ago some anon on /v/ said first Starcraft is one of the most balanced RTS in the entire RTS history.
I'm not a RTS fan and I didnt play starcraft so much but how is that true when I see this:
> Marine
> 1 Supply
> 50 Minerals
>40 HP
> 0 Armor
>Ranged / 6 damage
and then the other 2 races have:
> Zerglings
> 1 Supply
> 50 Minerals
> 35 HP
> 0 Armor
> Melee / 5 damage
> "Spawn 2 Zerlings"
AND
> Zealot
> 2 Supply
> 100 Minerals
> 60 Shield / 100 HP
> 0 Shield armor / 1 Armor
> Melee / 16 damage
Plz explain that shit to me
>>320193471
>Get 16 marines (800 minerals)
>Ranged units can focus fire
>6 Damage x 16 = 96 Damage
>Go against 8 zealots (800 minerals)
>Can't focus fire
>Each die in two focuses
Marines are ranged units. They are incredibly useful throughout all tiers. Zealots and Zerglings lose their utility as the game progresses.
>>320193471
Not taking into account economic factor, those units upgrades, or other racial units effectiveness.
You may be shitposting but looking at face values is dumb.
>>320194296
Zerglings stay relevant all game if used with defilers and mutas or lurkers. Zealots also stay relevant all game, as well. Super useful for soaking spider mines and killing siege tanks and other stuff.
>>320194296
>Zealots and Zerglings lose their utility as the game progresses.
What?
>>320194347
Well as i said i didnt play much starcraft but I somehow liked it (used to play Half Life's Crossfire map and after that Starcraft with my friends).
Yep I am a fucking casual when talking about RTS (I played more FPS games).
>>320194296
Well I didnt thought about that before. All my friends did was presure me with tons of zealots/dragons till they spam carriers and blow up my whole base.
Watching the Twitch 24/7 SC/BW channel right now.
>>320191894
if you're interested
http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/starcraft-mass-recall/
as far as i know, it does work on starter edition even though it says it probably won't
just keep in mind you need your locale set to english if you're a weeb and you need to follow the directions
i think you might need to run the installer as admin, too
>>320194601
Of course, that's true; what I said was in regards to the match's beginning: they become less of a main attacking force as it progresses and end up fulfilling more of a specialist role.
>>320194753
In terms of overall unit composition, yes, whereas Marines remain the main force behind TvZ matches.
>>320195189
Well that's the exact opposite of what I'm looking for.
It'd be great to have SC2's campaign on SC1.
>>320191894
Hijacking this thread with no survivors to ask if people could list games that play like Starcraft.
>>320194296
helllllll no
zerglings and zealots are pretty much THE units to counter terran tank push. They are the meat shields meant to soak up tank blasts and mines.
zerglings also end up doing insane damage when they have all their upgrades.
>>320195350
that probably doesn't exist, considering you'd have to mod the game to get anything of reasonable quality and unlike sc2, sc1 isn't made for modding
>buy Starcraft battle chest from blizzard digitally so is always have access to it and so I can play online
>install it and play
>the menu colors are fucked
Just fuck my entire life up senpai
>>320195431
1. GOTO >>320195216
>>320195625
Google StarCraft color registry fix
>>320195216
Everything about your post is wrong.
>>320195431
The entirety of Terran strategy for every matchup can be summarized as waiting to get enough tanks to kill an entire army in one volley. Even the short-sighted and simple Terran players can recognize such a great imbalance. But I have to admit, having the fastest unit in the game on only the 2nd tier of tech with a short build time, that can shoot fragmentation grenades capable of vaporizing all peons, zerglings, zealots, defilers, and high and dark templar in seconds, and can even shoot these grenades backwards without losing acceleration, AND can shit out three mini-nukes that burrow into the ground only to pop out at the perfect time and seek out an enemy unit at an inescapable speed, gives siege tanks and their arclite cannons quite a run for their money.
Ah, how could I forget their cost? Let's make a list of units (excluding peons) that are cheaper than vultures:
--Zergling
--Marine
That was easy.
>>320194857
The amount of units is really important. When looking at mutalisks, having 1-3 is are not doing much and will lose most fights, while a stacked group of 10 will oneshot workers with one hit and can be used very efficient to focus fire tanks and stuff
>>320195829
I know I already fixed it and knew how to since everyone and their mother torrented the game but why are they selling it without a patch or fix?
>>320192260
>good storytelling
>SC2
I've been playing through the campaigns recently and I like BW a lot more than Original. I think it's just the unit variety BW gives you since you've already unlocked pretty much everything compared to Original where it seems to drag on sometimes massing the small selection of units you have access to.
>>320193471
1 zergling will beat 1 marine without micro. you should be talking about the vulture if you want to complain about supply efficiency.
>75 minerals
>80 hp
>20 damage ranged attack
>3 kill-everything-mines for free
>>320196735
Not true at all. Marine has range. He'd have gotten one or two hits in before Zerg even touches him.
How noob are you crybaby shitters? Game is perfectly balanced.
>>320196056
there were job postings up a while back that suggested a remastered version of sc1 and d2 may be in the works
http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/careers/posting.html?id=15000XZ
>>320197495
That's both good and bad.
SC1 with better graphics and maybe more units and campaign? Awesome.
>>320197442
try it in the map editor if you don't believe me. there's a reason you need to wall off against a zerg rush.
>>320198340
I don't have to, I played the game since release. The marine will win the battle in the red.
