How the FUCK do I get past this guy? He's fucking IMPOSSIBLE to beat. Am I just underleveled or something? Is there any way I could just speak my way past him?
Fallout 1/2 thread while we're at it
Here are my stats.
Did you get the shooty gun at the BoS place?
>>320123689
I'm sorry anon, but it seems like you're just too retarded.
There is no helping you, don't forget to come back to shitpost about how bad a game Fallout 2 is!
>>320123643
You tried hacking the terminal in the bottom left hand corner of the room to turn the automated turrets against him?
>>320123779
The what?
>>320123689
how did you even get that far? do you have enough action points to actually shoot any of your guns?
>>320123689
>Fallout 1
>CHR 10
>AGL 1
Just start over
>>320123643
You do have a Bozar right?
Failing that, you do have a Vindicator minigun, right?
And why is your AGI at 1? Do you like being underpowered?
>>320123856
The blasty one.
>>320123643
>agi 1
This is a joke, right?
>>320123896
>not knowing based Horrigan
That's FO2 retard
>>320123689
>AGI 1
Jesus christ anon. Hack the turrets like the other anon suggested and savescum, maybe that'll do it.
>>320123689
>this guy again
>>320123781
>>320123887
>>320123896
>>320124106
>>320124124
>HURR YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PLAY ------THIS------ WAY
How THE FUCK is this an RPG then?
>>320123689
Crit with Plasma Pistol, solves every problem in the two first games.
>>320123689
>AGL 1
SHIT NIGGA THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING
>>320123818
Oh, that was easy. Thanks.
>>320123643
>educated
>presence
>any +skill perk
goddamn man.
just get the keycard from the Prez and reset all the guns to emergency defense modeyeesh
>>320124085
Agh I meant 2, you fuckwad
>>320123643
Are you that idiot who asked /v/ if he should put 10 CHR in his character, and people told him to definitely not? You did it anyway?!
>2 action point
>TWO
Jesus christ, even a kick requires more than that.
>>320124159
Continue forward anon-sama, I believe in you!
>>320124159
Here he goes again. Bait thread
>>320124159
A game being a RPG doesn't mean you get a license to be a total retard.
>>320123689
>>320124209
>>320123643
Seems like you need a new grafic card my friend. Didn't you know that fall out 4 is released now. With much better grafic.
>>320123689
What version is that?
You should get 5+(Agility/2) Actionpoints
>>320123689
>1 agility
You're still at it?
>>320124209
>2 action points
>2
>action
>points
>the kick requires 3
How the FUCK did you beat the game like this?
>>320124423
who THE FUCK cares about the graphixxx xD ?
>>320124278
>>320124295
>>320124337
>LE ;>) HURR AMI RETARD LMAO XD
It should be called ACTION RPG instead
![Girls[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/srTQb03.png "Girls[1].png")
>>320124423
>much better grafic
>>320123689
>>320124209
>1 AGL
No lie, I'm impressed you managed your way through with 2 fucking AP.
>>320123689
Oh my god it's you.
Still addicted to jet? Or did you fix that.
>>320124209
>he actually did it
well I guess this proves that no matter how much you fuck up your character you can still beat the game if you just try.
>>320125092
Looks like he's still addicted since he only has 2 AP.
1 agility + bruiser should be 3 AP.
>>320125092
I did find the antidote but I didn't want to waste it
>>320124582
I was encouraging you though.
Chill mang
>>320125601
This fucking nig
>>320123887
I can shoot my Bozar once if I'm on Jet and Psycho
>>320123643
What's with the red dialogue option? Is that some kind of a mod?
>>320127186
It means it triggers combat. Have you ever played this game or are you waiting for PeeDeePee to play it?
>>320127428
I never had colored dialogue options. It definitely isn't vanilla.
>>320127509
Yes it is. Unless for some reason it wasn't triggering. I definitely remember the red text.
>>320127509
there's a perk that colors dialogue depending on possible outcome
>>320123689
lol every time
>>320124582
Chill out you glrebber
>drug addicted criple kills a lot of innocent nonmutated civilians and a superhuman supersoldier
Enclave was so fucking right about gasing the wasteland.
>>320127648
empathy is the perk.
>>320123689
>1 AGI
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>320124513
It's
+ 5 AP
+ (1/2) AP rounded down to 0 AP
- 2 AP because of the Bruiser trait
- 1 AP because he's addicted to Jet
= 2 AP
>>320127509
It just proves how deep and complex this game used to be. It is vanilla.
>>320124209
That'll do, Anon. That'll do.
>>320128069
You know, this is exactly what they kept posting when I started with this character about a month ago. "just reset your character", "lol 1 agility", "good luck with frank horrigan retard" and so on.
Well who's laughing now?
>>320124337
Yeah it does. Are you retarded or something?
>>320123643
I feel ya.
Was doing a retard gunslinger so talking the bodyguards/hacking turrets was automatically out and I had to abuse door glitch to slowly chip away his health.
>>320129524
They are still laughing at you so I don't get it.
>>320130007
Couldn't you just get the presidential access key to use the turrets? Or do you need intelligence to even open up the terminal?
>>320130297
Can't remember if I even tried because of the previous experience with computers.
Pic related.
>>320124159
choice and consequence, anon. You chose to be a retard, deal with it
I don't know whether to laugh at your bad stat distribution or to be amazed that you made it that far.
>>320123689
>Fallout 2 thread
>check to see if it's AG1 fag
>it's him
You have no shame, don't you?
>>320124159
fallout fans btfo
>>320131005
>Fallout 3, NV and 4
>having 1 in agility is perfectly viable
>Fallout 1 and 2
>people will tell you to uninstall if you have anything less than 8 agility because the game will be nigh unbeatable for you
I think we all know which games are the superior roleplaying experience
>>320132501
Fallout 4 let's you beat the game with 1 in everything. I agree, FO4 is the superior roleplaying experience.
>>320132746
Everything being viable is better than just one build being viable
>>320123643
>>320123689
>>320124209
This guy is just using a hex editor to fake those stats.
>>320132501
It IS a legitimate roleplaying experience. You want to roleplay a useless cripple, you're free to do so. You want to go trekking across the wastes in a leather jacket and noskills, you're free to do so. Fuck, start FO1 and head straight for the Glow if you want to, no one's going to stop you. What you don't get to do is complain about your stupid ideas having consequences. If something goes wrong enough you can reload, anyway.
>>320133197
Wow pal fuck you too. I played this game legit.
My one complaint with FO2 is that you miss out on so much stuff if you play as a genuinely evil person. Goris and sulik left right after I started my massacre and the rest are still with me because my karma is like 1900. There are so few evil characters and 0 evil companions in the game except for that one guy from the restoration.
But Fallout 2 is indeed a hilariously, badly balanced game.
>AGI is outragerously more imporant than any other stat to the point you simply cannot go with low values unless you want to suffer
>STR outright useless because of the many permanent boosts
>Criticals can ignore armor/dr to the point death can literally be luck based especially from burst weapons
>energy/big guns only mid and mostly late game
>guns far more powerful than melee weapons for most of the game
>majority of perks are useless
>majority of melee weapons are useless
>perks pre reqs can be achieved through temporary boosts
>random encounters with humanoid enemies are pantsu on head retarded with scenarios like 8-10 gun using enemies against a character fresh out of Den
>>320133695
So many RPGs jew you out of the evil routes.
>>320133695
>>320133827
Arcanum is the only RPG that did evil playthroughs right
>>320133695
>Wanting to be the bad guy
Whoa whoa whoa, dude, relax.
>>320133805
Agility is not overpowered, it's overrated.
If you don't want the agility specific perks, something like 4 or even 2 agility is perfectly viable.
>>320124159
Couldn't hold it past a couple of posts so why didn't you just put it in the OP like you wanted to?
>>320134504
That's not me, it's some other shitposter
>>320134035
Yeah anon, have fun running from those random encounters
>>320134546
You're fucked there regardless of your agility
What people don't seem to realize is that you have 5 base AP and every two points in agility just add one. 4 agility would be 7 action points while 10 agility would be 10. It's not that big of a difference. Besides, you can always drug up before hard encounters so that you will have the 10 agility there anyway. That's two doses of Psycho for a 4 agility character.
>>320124209
You know, I was there for the first thread when you (or whoever started this nonsense) cried about how the game was impossible.
And now, despite the fact that you've played the most gimped, broken character possible, the game has been defeated.
Ultimately proving that F2 allows you an absolutely insane amount of leeway with how you want to play.
>>320132901
but all builds are viable, even if hard or impossible
in fo4, there are no builds
>>320135283
And that's why FO4 grants maximum choice to the player, perfect roleplay experience
>>320135283
>all builds are viable
>even if they're impossible
You're a fucking idiot
>>320124159
Is an RPG. You're role-playing a guy who's destined to fail.
>>320135434
there is no choice, nothing has consequence, neither in action or roleplay, because how you dialog, history and future outlook is presented and forced upon your character
>>320135654
they are not impossible, clearly it's an exaggeration, are you perhaps the idiot?
>>320124337
Yes it does. That's literally the point
>>320132110
SO MUCH THIS HOLY SHIT
Can you beat fallout 1 or 2 with the most important SPECIAL stats at 1?
I wonder if you could do a playthrough with no healing
What about a no kill run?
>>320123689
Convince the Enclave dudes to go with you and hack the turrets.
>>320133805
>hilariously, badly balanced
Why does everyone write like this nowadays? Really gets my goat
>>320124159
This faggot again..
Yes you can but don't cry if it's too hard, idiot.
>>320123643
>all this people falling for this bait
We had the same thread last week
>role playing games means you should be able to save the day regardless of how retarded, slow or weak you are
No.
>>320133197
My thoughts.
>>320136391
Hey now, I wasn't at Horrigan last week.
>>320136440
Why is it so hard to believe that someone would beat the game with a build you've deemed unplayable despite never trying it yourself?
![500px-Pink_Fatalis_Scan_44[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sxk5YRi.jpg "500px-Pink_Fatalis_Scan_44[1].jpg")
How do I beat Ukanlos in Freedom Unite? I'm using default armor and weapon you get of course, what a shitty game XD
>>320135836
dont get me wrong i enjoyed the game, but hes right. fallout 1 is better as an RpG, it 2 you're forced to be a OOGA BOOGA CAVEMAN that no one likes. If you roll an INT character it doesnt even make sense because you somehow have all this knowledge and perfect english while the rest of your tribe speaks like monkeys. who taught you everything then? even when you are smart people still treat you like a dumb monkey
>>320136612
It is possible, but i don't see how anyone, especially a new player to this game, tries the most painful and slowest way to play this game.
You literally only made your teammates shoot because you couldn't do anything and this is alreadx annoying as fuck because you can't give them precise orders.
That's why i don't believe it.
>>320135983
>Can you beat fallout 1 or 2 with the most important SPECIAL stats at 1?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/63576-fallout-2/46690779
>>320137062
Is it so hard to believe that someone got tired of the Small Guns/Speech/Lockpick sniper character that is all but begged from your character in every iteration of the series?
>>320137062
>You literally only made your teammates shoot because you couldn't do anything and this is alreadx annoying as fuck because you can't give them precise orders.
But that's wrong.
Here are my stats when I huff some Jet. Notice the action point count, just enough to fire my Bozar.
>>320137310
So you tell me he knew about everything? But still make up threads with:
>this game is shit i can't do anything
>this is too hard
>2 AP
>>320137381
Funny no chem res perks or so. So you would end up being addictive as fuck.
>>320137537
>Funny no chem res perks or so. So you would end up being addictive as fuck.
I've been addicted to Jet since the Den. That's why I have 2 base AP.
This is what Bethesdrones have been taught to believe. An RPG isn't a game where you can create your own character and place them inside a reactive setting where their choices matter and their mistakes come with consequences. An RPG is a game where you can do fucking anything, even if it doesn't make sense, because that way it's more fun.
Here are my stats when I drug myself the fuck up.
>b-but muh 1 agi
Fuck off guide reading shitters who can't think for themselves
>>320137870
>using savetrainers
Good job.
>>320137870
>Fuck off guide reading shitters who can't think for themselves
>bait not subtle
>makes thread once a week
>I'm just pretending to be retarded!
Reported for spam
>>320138023
>What are jokes?
>>320137870
Couldn't you get even more with buffouts? and stack another psycho to it
The Fallout 1 & 2 combat is nice and all, but....
>you were hit for 0 hit points
>you were hit for 3 hit points
>you were hit for 1 hit points
>you were critically hit for 197 hit points, bypassing your armour. Your insides fling around the room.
>you were killed
>>320138205
That's with 2x Psycho, 2x Buffout, 2x Jet and a Jet antidote to get rid of the addiction
That's
>+3 agility -3 intelligence
>+3 agility -3 intelligence
>+1 strength, +2 agility, +3 endurance
>+1 agility, +3 endurance (hitting the strength and agility caps)
>+1 perception +2 action points
>+1 perception +2 action points
>+1 action point (getting rid of the addiction which is -1 AP)
>>320138501
Oh, I read AG 04, when it was IN. My bad
>>320138501
You basically gimp yourself by building any agility on your character if you plan on using drugs, since you won't get the full benefits from using them. Psycho would be pretty much completely useless if you had 10 agility. Agility confirmed for a shit SPECIAL.
>>320139190
>using DRUGS
Junkie.
>>320139412
I bet you're the type of person who ends the game with 120 stimpaks, 50 Buffouts and 30 Psychos in their inventory
>>320123952
Get Gud, etc, too.
Just having one isn't enough. I know because I was 12 when I tried and failed repeatedly because of a shitty build and lack of planning.
You need an actually good build and some preparation.
The easiest way to just plain outfucking tank most nasty enemies in Fallout 1 and 2 is having ALL THE STIMPAKS, and this is key, understanding that you should open your inventory and use them IN THE INVENTORY. This stops you "wasting" ap on equipping and using them.
Horrigan is also outrageously tough and sucks up critical damage as if he were a slasher flick monster. He's ridiculous. He is the embodiment of munchkin, you must outmunchkin him.
I mean, think about it. It is literally true.
"MY GUY IS A SUPER MUTANT SECRET AGENT WITH POWER ARMOR AND A UNIQUE PLASMA CANNON SMG/AUTOGUN THE SIZE OF A TRUCK AND GIANT SICKLE BLADE."
He breaks a ridiculous amount of rules about what "normal" enemies do.
The Master is fair, and balanced compared to him. Hell, the Master is a giant pussy compared to frank. Tanking 2 minigun bursts a turn isn't really very hard. Not even in plain old power armor. If you had what you had in Fallout 2 you would curbstomp him.
>>320139669
You don't do your own stuff.
>>320123643
>>320123689
>>320124159
I applaud this god tier b8 by the OP. OP is right about this game being an awful RPG. While I won't shit on it as badly as he does since I did enjoy the game, I feel 1 was a better game overall. Both games however are incredibly broken and buggy. You also seriously handicap yourself if you go too low on agility. I understand all RPG's have their great stats and their shit stats but this is taken way too much to the extreme here. Considering all the bugs and numerous other issues this game has this isn't a good thing at all. I actually haven't even beat the game because I permanently screwed up my playthrough actually. The game implies you can do a triple cross and murder the shi and hubologists for yourself. However you never want to give the hubologists the fuel. If you do you can never redirect the fuel to the tanker even though you should be able to. In fact I can't even go to the hubologist area anymore after I killed them. The game will always crash if I go there. This game is extremely broken as fuck. And I thought Bethesda put out the buggiest "good" games.
>>320136954
This pissed me off to. The main characters options is to either be an extreme goody two shoes pussy or a sadistic psychopathic edgelord. The beginning of the game pretty much implies you should go in the more evil direction since the first few areas give you more chance to do things as a bad guy. Then the game does a complete flip and tells you "lol you should have played as a good guy instead you faggot."
Writing is strange and tbqh, shit. Game has too many bugs. Logic inconsistencies everywhere. Everyone in the wasteland is a fucking asshole that you want to kill anyways. Then you can't even kill them because you seriously fuck yourself over if you do. Even though the game goes out of it's way to imply that this is a legit way to play. Problem is the unfinished of the game and bugs ruins this playstyle entirely.
How are you guys falling for this?
OP obviously knows how to play the game, he just wants to see how buttflustered you get when you see his clearly photoshopped image with 1 AGL. No one could even reach level 2 with 1 AGL.
You're just feeding into his bullshit by arguing with his lame excuse "Oh I'm sorry I didn't min max and play the CORRECT way by reading guides and setting my AGL super high"
>>320140143
>(you) (OP)
>(you)
>(not you)
I like Fallout 2, I have no idea why you people think that one guy is me.
>>320139952
>You need an actually good build and some preparation.
>Horrigan is also outrageously tough and sucks up critical damage as if he were a slasher flick monster. He's ridiculous. He is the embodiment of munchkin, you must outmunchkin him.
He was actually pretty fucking easy once you got the Enclave soldiers to help you and make the turrets shoot the fuck out of him. He died in something like four turns without ever taking a shot at me. I guess my diplomatic genius build finally paid off.
>>320140434
>No one could even reach level 2 with 1 AGL.
I'm 100% sure you have no idea how agility works in Fallouts 1 and 2. I suggest you try it yourself.
>>320140143
Adding more on to my post because fuck all the fags that kept going on and on about 2 being better than 1. While I already said that both games do in fact have a lot of problems that make them more okay-goodish games at best (not greatness by a long shot) I must say that 1 at least had so much better direction. I never felt so constricted on what to do like I do in 2. 1 not only feels better pacing wise but it seems it even is much less buggier by comparison.
It really ruins my role playing experience when I'm led to believe I can do these quests in numerous different ways only for certain options to seriously ruin shit. Not because the game is hard (which it is unfairly hard to a fault) but because the devs probably rushed the shit out of this game. If I kill a certain character because the boss in another town pretty much said I should without actually telling me, any quests I get for those people in those towns should be crossed out. And honestly why does my character have to be such a retard for? Why can't he just explain the issues other people or towns have? Instead it's like he wants to be insulted despite the high intelligence and speech skills.
Fuck that shit. This game should have just modeled itself after the old GTA games only being RPG's instead. Because at least then I can kill these jackoffs happily with minimal worry. Main plot should have been much more simplified too so that you have a little more knowledge on what you should be doing.
Screw all the apologists. Bethesda made better Fallout games.
>>320137849
So I can wipe out an area on the map and have my game continuously crash when I attempt to go back to said area?
So hardcore,
great game :)
>>320141146
>w-what? my choices have consequences? fuck this shitty RPG
>>320139952
> ALL THE STIMPAKS
>munchkin
Reddit is that way
>>320141146
Do you realize how old the original fallouts were? Gta at the time was a 2D arcade shooter
>>320123643
Kill the president and take his ID. You can do it by using a bunch of super stimpaks on him, his heart stops and he's dead. Convince a squad of enclave soldiers on Frank's location to assist you. And don't forget to use the ID to activate those turrets. Here you go.
>>320144341
>Do you realize how old the original fallouts were?
So that is an excuse for awful game design now?
>Gta at the time was a 2D arcade shooter
I know which is why I said the old GTA games. Literally fuck all the quests is what I was getting at. Just have a main story for the sake of having a main story but the rest of the game functions similarly to GTA where you do pretty much whatever you want. While also not being a broken shitpile like Fallout 2.
>>320144570
You're four hours late to the party
>>320124209
>>320132501
>>Fallout 3, NV and 4
>>having 1 in agility is perfectly viable
Yeah, cause not being able to run faster than a goddamned rat will let you survive perfectly in a post-nuclear wasteland. They're awful RPGs for letting you do that, having no consequence for building an invalid.
>>320123689
>2 ap
>>320145953
me shoulder
>>320145953
Everybody has a weakness. You should be able to compensate for being slow and clumsy by being strong or something, like in newer Fallouts.
>>320146738
Yes, weakness. 1 agi is like being born without legs.
>>320146738
It's funny because OP literally just beat the game with 1 agility and 2 action points
>>320124271
I'm pretty sure you get 5 or 6 Action Points at AGL 1, he's just used some of them in that screenshot.
