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Are you hyped?
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FUCKING YES, the trailer was amazing.
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>>319956997
No.
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>>319956997
Just finished SotFS so yeah im pretty excited for it
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Not especially. Sort of burned out on these games.
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>>319956997
Not really.
I don't even know why, it actually looks pretty good so far but I feel nothing. I just hope that the lack of interest won't stop me from enjoying it, I felt the same for TOH and loved the fuck out of it.
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No.
Dark souls 2's taint is too strong.
The series really went to shit after becoming multiplat.
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Didn't really like Bloodborne so i hope this i'll do it for me
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>>319957901

The novelty has worn off
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>>319956997

>tfw never played a Souls game before
>tfw DaS 1, DaS 2, and DaS 3 marathon in the spring
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>>319957920
>console keks so mad they're willing to call BB shit just because PC got DaS and DaS2
lmao
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Hell yeah I'm hype. Been playing DaS II sotfs. But you know this game really goes to shit once you go to the shrouded woods or whatever, worst zone is that and the place after.
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Terrible idea. You'll be totally burnt out or not finish the first two in time.
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>>319956997
Kind of hard to be when 2 sucked. Low hopes for 3.
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>>319958021
Are you sure about that? those games aren't for everyone. Think about them as beat-em-ups like Double Dragon or Final Fight with swords. Also, >>319958226

>>319958128
Dark Souls 2's areas tend to be really bland. The DLC areas are great. Have you finished the game?
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>>319958226
meant to quote
>>319958021
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>>319956997
If it turns out pretty good I might get it, but I'm not salivating at the mouth for it.
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Not really. I still haven't even played Dark Souls 2 despite loving the first one and Demon's Souls. I just didn't feel like playing it and From is just rehashing yearly now which is off putting.
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>>319956997
I've played through Bloodborne three times in the last two months and now that I've gone back to Dark Souls, I can't help but feel it's slow and sluggish in comparison.

Still looking forward to it though.
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Suprisingly yes. Looks like it has the style of Bloodborne with the substance of DeS. And since I liked the style of bloodborne but not much else and loved the actual substance of DeS but the visuals were lacking it looks good.
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>>319958297
I haven't finished it yet. Do you get the dlc after that?
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>>319958981
No. To access the DLC areas (I call them like that because they were DLC for vanilla Dark Souls 2) you need to reach the black gulch's primordial bonfire, the iron keep's primordial bonfire, the shrine of winter and Drangleic castle (the key for opening one of those areas is there).
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>new souls game directed by miyazaki
>most /v/ermin are too burned out to bother with it

Will the community finally be pure like in the old Demon's Souls days?
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>>319959746

It's still B team developing it. Miyazaki's just one person. And considering his involvement with BB I wonder how hands on he's even been with DaS3 to begin with.
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>>319959746
Guess what? Souls "fanbase" was never good. Before PC, you were immature mspaint making morons who think ganking is hardcore pvp
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>>319959939
>Before PC, you were immature mspaint making morons who think ganking is hardcore pvp
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>>319956997
>Season pass
>Paid patch
>Graphics downgrade

A definite pirate, desu.
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The whole game is going to be like the Bloodborne DLC so yes.
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>>319959876

The team never mattered, most people can't even name a single B-team or A-team member (outside of the directors) without googling. Miyazaki is what matters, and the stress test already shows they got the fundamentals right.
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>>319959992
What exactly is this supposed to prove? That PC beards shit on console babbies by telling them to git gud?
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It can't possibly be worse than Dark Souls 2, so yeah, I'm hyped.
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>>319956997
Too soon. They won't have enough dev time and shit will be incomplete and missing like DaS1. Should have developed for another year.
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>>319960150
How do you figure?
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>>319960315
Hasn't it been in development since Dark Souls 2? So it'll be in development for longer than BB was.
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>>319960517
I can feel it.
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>>319960580
evidence?
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>>319960895
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=169504726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a85RKSByYjE&feature=youtu.be

According to this it's been in development since before DaS2.
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A little off topic but why is Heide's Tower of Flame so shit? Why do all the big ass armored dudes have sweeping attacks that hit anything around them?

Why did the change the club's default heavy attack from an overhead lunge?

I loved Dark Souls 1 but i feel like Dark Souls II has all this bullshit to seem harder that DaS1 without any of the actual challenge
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>>319961162
>i feel like Dark Souls II has all this bullshit to seem harder that DaS1 without any of the actual challenge

you nailed it
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>>319960048
Uh, what?
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>>319956997
You know I actually wasn't, right up until I saw that sleek beautiful greatsword launch someone into the fucking sky.
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>Locked to 30 fps on PC
>Physics and weapon degradation tied to framerate
JUST
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Is DS2 $5 yet? I haven't played it and would like to go through it just once.
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I honestly hope it's closer gameplay wise to Bloodborne than to Dark Souls 1.
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He will be back right guys......right?
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>>319961426
no it's like 20 on steam sale. The game has only like 2k people left, if you buy it any later it's gonna be more dead than it already is.
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>>319960196

It proves that mustards are the main purveyors of cancerous reddit memes.

>LE LEGEND CONTINUES
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>>319961569
I don't care for the "online"

Thought I made that pretty clear with the just once comment.
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Dread Souls would be a better name

I really hate that they stopped at "Demon Souls" then started just going "Dark souls 1 2 3"
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>>319961542
Depends, are you a cleric?
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>>319961542
If I have to befriend him in order to get unique armor and shit again I'm going to be pissed.
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I like the challenging game play and stuff but online PVP has already been terrible for these games.

Just fucking laggy back stab fishers. Very rarely do people want to try and have a proper fight.
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>>319961634
I would wait for Christmas, I believe it was $16 or $20 on Black Friday.
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>>319960940
If this is true, great, but that also means that less effort was put on that for that extra year since they were technically working on 3 games at the same time. So I'm still not impressed by that answer.
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>>319961739
Of course you will. That's like the whole point of him, annoying cunt you want to kill but don't because some item is unattainable if you do.
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Well from what I played from the network test, I'm hyped
The movement is exactly like Bloodborne, u can swing your swords & roll so many times just like BB
The game doesn't even use the same animations & jump mechanics as Dark Souls 2, its like DaS1
The music, graphics & aesthetic is amazing as well
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>>319956997
Nah, it will be shit. Being made by B-Team


Not even Miyazaki can save this abomination.
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>>319961595
OnlyAfro was a DS fan before the PC release

he used to play it on Xbox
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>>319961716
n-no.
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>>319961852
Are there trick weapons
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Depends.
Elsanna was in the trailer.
I don't want B Team Souls to be referenced in any way whatsoever.
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>>319956997
Yes.

I just played Dark Souls ! for the first time last week and loved the shit out of it. I've put a few hours into Dark Souls 2 but I just can't get into it so I think I'm just gonna skip 2 and go straight to 3 when it comes out.
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>>319961925
Sort of. Some weapons have a alternate mode; for example there's a sword that when you hit the change button you start dual wielding them. Every weapon has some kind of alternate use.
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As fuck.

I don't have a PS4 and watching some Bloodborne videos made me fucking hungry for some souls game, but I already played the shit out of DeS, DaS and DaS2

Jesus fucking christ I want it now
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>>319962128
The fucking worst thing about bloodborne was the fact there was only like 14 weapons because muh multiple weapons in one. I'd much rather have a ds1 variety.
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I'm cautiously optimistic. I fucking hate DS2 but I absolutely love Bloodborne and the previous games. DS2 was just so terrible that I can not put my full faith into DS3 before hearing what other people say.
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Is it really being made by the B-team?
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>>319962360

And Dark Souls is literally ~8 good weapons among a pile of trash that stays in storage forever.
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What's the story setup going to be?
A third fucking cycle of getting the 4 lord souls and linking the fire?
I sure hope not
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What builds you guys planning on for 3? Gameplay looks so fun, I wanna make a paladin but at the same time a dext dual wielder would be awesome. The gameplay looks so nice for a dext build
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>>319962779

Kill.
More.
Bosses.
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>>319962593
Sounds like you're one of those faggots that thinks PvP is everything.

90% of the weapons in Dark Souls are perfectly fine to carry you through multiple playthroughs to the NG+7. Unless you're shit and rely on retarded damage (read: BKH) to carry you through everything and just kill bosses because you can't dodge consistently.
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>>319961716
lel
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>>319962779
You go out destroying previous Lords of Cinder and end the cycle.

Dragons come back.
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>>319956997
honestly? No
I'm Just expecting Medieval Bloodborne: Dragons magic n' shit edition

maybe is good who knows

the game I'm waiting is a futuristic-blame-giger mix Souls game
that would make my dick so fucking hard I could hardly think with all that brain blood in my dick
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>>319962803
First playthrough i will probably do a quality build with Claymore if I can get it early enough, with minimal armor, focusing on rolling instead of blocking. I hate shields. they make the game too easy
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>>319962779
You are the dark lord who kills the lords of cinder.

Basically it's after the end of the game in which you didn't link the fire and your target is to kill the guys who linked the fire.
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Not really.
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>>319962803
Dex greatsword/katana spellsword.
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>>319962592
its more like B+ team because of Miyazaki
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>>319956997

After Bloodborne? Not really, but let's see what the future holds
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I'm hyped about playing a new soulsborne title.

I'm also worried because it's clear they're reusing a bunch of assets from Bloodborne.

It'll probably fall into the
>game 1 is good
>game 2 is shit
>game 3 is best
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>>319962940
>>319963020

How are there people who link the fire when linking the flame causes them to burn up? Are they reconning that? Warning signs already.
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>>319962803
good old Wanderer Knight
Shield + Sword, Str + Dex
No miracles
No spells
No bullshit
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>>319961162

>why do all the big ass armored dudes have sweeping attacks that hit anything around them

You mean those huge sweeping attacks that you can maneuver around by just walking?

>but i feel like Dark Souls II has all this bullshit to seem harder that DaS1 without any of the actual challenge

There wasn't any actual challenge in Dark Souls, you could cheese practically every single encounter with the gigantic parry frames or fully invulnerable one-shot backstabs. The only boss that at all punished you was 4 Kings and that was only if you did little DPS.
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>>319961674
It was legal reasons you dingus.
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>>319963014
The fucking tracking on the greatsword. Oh my sweet fuck. I cannot wait to send fags flying.
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>>319956997

No. Backstabs will trivialize everything, including the PvP. I'm not much of a PvP guy but there isn't much else to do after all the PvE stuff and after creating the 10th character and beating the game for the trillionth time.

Yeah I won't use them much for PvE, but they're still there. Bloodborne did it best and it will probably be the "souls' game with the best gameplay even after DaS3 comes out.
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>>319963317
They come back in form of undead, from what I know. You can see it in one of the trailers - a giant arises from the ground and makes a similiar pose to that from linking the fire in das1. Then he starts burning.

Also they never said that 'linkers' burn up. In DaS2 after getting burned your character didn't die and in DaS you can clearly see that fire didn't affect the PC
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>>319963317
Magic or something I dunno, they're probably in the same state Gwyn was at the end of DS1

All that's confirmed is we're going after Lords of Cinder
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No, I personally don't give a shit about DaS3.
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>>319963689
>in DaS you can clearly see that fire didn't affect the PC

Yeah, ok
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>>319963659

This.
Sick of Backstab fishing and i'm someone who plays as a Co-Op/Sunbro. Bloodborne made you work for it. You either parry or out skill them
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remember when /v/ absolutely lost their minds when ds2 was announced?
even had a sticky

we talked about it every day until launch day
man... I will never hype again
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>>319964002
>draws the enemy that doesn't have glowing red eyes with glowing red eyes
>draws the enemies that do have glowing red eyes without glowing red eyes

bravo
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>>319964002
It's not so bad. You can roll out of the backstab animation with fast reaction time in DaS3. It's really the best of both worlds - backstab fishing will be for shitters and be punished easily, while backstabbing is viable on whiffed R2s, etc.
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>>319964269

>you can roll out of the backstab animation with fast reaction time

Not with From's abysmal netcode you can't.
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>>319963689
>>319963701

That's really fucking stupid and ruins Gwyndolin's motive. Why would he want you to kill yourself only to become stronger. Gwyndolin dont give a shit about humans.
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They will never be able to fix backstab fishing in the soulsborne games.

PVE works naturally only if you lock on to the enemy. If you're a pro player (like me) you'll know that if you don't lock on and instead run or roll around the enemy, the enemy ai goes apeshit and you can backstab really easy.

I do this all the time in Bloodborne
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>>319964409
I have hope they'll get it right. You're always going to run into the occasional lagging bastard, but for the most part, the network test looked satisfactory. If they had dedicated servers instead of P2P it would be a lot better, I bet.
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>>319964750

>I have hope they'll get it right.

They haven't gotten it right in 4 games, they aren't getting it right now.
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Man, I wish they'd gone the Bloodborne route and made another "spiritual successor". Would love to see another complete artstyle/atmosphere change in the new game. Imagine an Angelic Souls, where everything is majestic, clean and beautiful, in contrast to the other games being dark and dirty. Shit would be rad as fuck. Kind of like El Shaddai meets Dark Souls. I feel like it'd be completely attainable, and would market/sell really well.
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>>319964483
>Gwyndolin's motive
the fuck you talking about, gwyndolin is the trap fag pretending the golden age isn't over
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>>319964002
To be fair, gun parrying was really easy on enemies you could parry, and it's not really a great mechanic in PvP when it allows you to punish someone very hard for attacking in a game where you're supposed to be aggressive.
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>>319960157
This tbqh.

Dark Souls 2 was different because they had like 3 different directors including Miyazaki. The whole B/A-Team thing isn't an issue since B-team for DaS2 is just an expanded A-Team anyways.

Although given how badly Miyazaki neutered the invasion aspect in BB, I can only hope the people from his team reign him in.
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>>319956997
Yes because I enjoy playing video games.
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>>319961851
Obtain the item, and then kill him.

That's what I do.

Two can play this game, fuckstick.
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>>319964943

Its been 4 years and you still dont even know the basic premise of the story. Gwyndolin and Frampt are working together to fuck over undeads so that they can keep the age of fire going. If the undead resurrect after linking the flame, it completely ruins what they're trying to do.
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>>319964817
Have you seen any of the network test? As long as you're not invading some cunt in Africa, you should be fine.
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>>319964684
>They will never be able to fix backstab fishing in the soulsborne games.
They already fixed it in DaS2 though by giving backstabs a start up animation. The only reason why it didn't work as well as it could've was because of lag since From will never fix their fucking netcode.
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BB's DLC is too good. Good enough that DS3 old system seems outdated already.
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>>319965362
Maybe they don't know that

every think of that fuckface?
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>>319965771

The games been out for 4 fucking years. There is literally no excuse.
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>>319965362
>Gwyndolin and Frampt are working together
Is that one of Vaati's theories
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>>319965478
What about bloodborne? To get a backstab you have to do a windup heavy attack. Easy enough to land unlocked in a fight if you git gud, but takes enough skill so that you can't just circle strafe backstab.
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>>319965910
You're one spergy guy
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>>319966067
No one gets backstabs in a fight in BB because you might as well just do a visceral attack.
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>>319963304
>I'm also worried because it's clear they're reusing a bunch of assets from Bloodborne.
That has always been the case for every Souls game. It's more about how it contextually applies the assets. I remember initially being disappointed with Bloodborne at first because the previews made it look too much like Dark Souls, but the theme, atmosphere and the slight altering of the mechanics made it feel like a fundamentally different experience to the original Dark Souls.
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Not really hyped about the lore, DaS wrapped itself up nicely like DeS and Bb, and DaS2's story was a whole lot of nothing.

The Lord of Cinder mechanic is a cool replacement for humanity though, and sword arts will save the game.
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>>319965771
>>319966039

The game itself clearly tells you they know each other and they both want you to do the same thing. Its not a theory or some hidden subtext. Gwyndolin and Gwyneveres illusion literally tell you to do that Frampt says, which leads the player into getting tricked and killing himself. Do you not pay attention when people say things at all?
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>>319956997
Ya, PCfag and been wanting to play souls but DaS is not as active anymore, DaS2 has soul memory and bloodborne looks fun but i aint pay 360+ for one game.
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>>319965397

Every network test has had functional netcode, every network infrastructure has fallen apart as soon as the game launched.
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>>319966479
I don't know why Lords of Cinder rising from the grave would still lessen any motivation from the first game. It's obviously something unexpected.
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>>319966386
DaS2 was fine in terms of lore. It built on what DaS had but basically said:

>Dark isn't bad like you think it is
>Fire isn't as natural as you think it is

That was it. No idea why people get so asshurt over it.
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>>319956997
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>>319961942
Well too fucking bad, cause it will be featured for sure.
>thinking DS3 isn't B-teams 2nd go around.
Miyazaki as the "Director" is a PR talk move to stop the B-team meme from continuing.
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>>319961942
Alsanna?

The daughters of Manus are the best things about DaS2 though.

>tfw you will never become so powerful that the daughters of the abyss get wet and turn them into your fuckslaves
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>>319966884
Because it wasn't the same game.

The concept of the cycles was great, it was just implemented in a lazy way.

Instead of Drangleic being revealed as Lordran within the first few hours it would have been amazing to have it be a really late reveal. DS2's lore leans too hard on DS1, thats the issue.

The DLC stuff is actually fantastic
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>>319956997
i can't be hyped for a new souls game after das2 turned out the way it did.

i am very interested, though. best case scenario we get another das1 and that is a very nice idea
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>>319958004
Pretty much this. DS can be great, but the game play out in such a way that once you understand the formula, you can comfortably play through them with little issue as it's mostly about knowing what to do. I'd be happy for this to be that last DS game, as I'd hope From decide to mix things up and offer different gameplay and settings.
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>>319967512
>Because it wasn't the same game.
Because it was a sequel? It shouldn't be the same game.

>Instead of Drangleic being revealed as Lordran
We don't know if Drangleic is Lordran - that's all speculation.
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>>319966884

The problem is that DS2 takes the lore of DS and simplifies it to the point of basically being fan fiction. The dark was more akin to the coming of a new era where humans would take over and was feared by the gods because it meant their time was coming to an end. The replacement team did not grasp this idea at all and went with the easiest way to interpret Miazaki's concept. Most of DS2's lore is heavily influenced from DS, lacking any originality at all. DS1 took place only in Lordran, so there was a whole world to explore, but they could not help themselves but to just redo it thousands of years later along with every major boss from the first game.
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>>319968126
>We don't know if Drangleic is lordran
Did you even play the game?
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>>319956997
Wasn't in the mood for Dark Souls 2 when it came out and never had a PS4 for Bloodborne, so this will be the first Souls I will play since playing Dark Souls. I'm primed with hype and haven't touched the series in years, very much ready to go.
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>>319961162
> Dark Souls II has all this bullshit to seem harder

All that bullshit actually make it harder though.
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>>319968337
Feel free to cite proof.
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>>319968564

Not that guy but the game tells you Drangleic is Lordran over and over again. No clue how you didnt pick up on that.
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>>319968564
So you didn't then, its all but said a million fucking times in the game.
>This place used to be called L-somehing
>All the boss souls are literally the Lord souls
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>>319968225
>The problem is that DS2 takes the lore of DS and simplifies it
What did it simplify?

>The dark was more akin to the coming of a new era where humans would take over
Oh come on. People were turning into zombies and mindless hollow when the Age of Fire was nearing an end - only Dark Lord fags like you think it can mean something good.

>interpret Miazaki's concept
I'm more inclined to think Miyazaki's concept was the duality of light and dark, actually. Fire is always presented as both a good and bad thing, so it makes sense that DaS2 would take that and also expand on it.

>Most of DS2's lore is heavily influenced from DS, lacking any originality at all.
The lore SHOULD be heavily influenced since it is a sequel, but they expanded on it quite a bit. The concept of a middle path, or a 'twilight', isn't original?
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PC release when?
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>>319968743
Where does it tell you this?

Lordran is never name dropped.

>>319968760
>This place used to be called L-somehing
It said Drangleic used to be called 'something' else, which doesn't necessarily refer to Lordran. Or do you also think Brume Tower is in Lordran?
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>>319968969
Way to ignore how the bosses drop the Lords souls from 1.

Stop being so fucking thick. Your headcannon has no place here.
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Yeah sure
Not as excited as I was for Bloodborne, but I'll definitely play it and I hope it has it's fair share of surprises so we don't just get DaS 2: 2
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>>319968954
Late 2017.
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>>319969061
>Way to ignore how the bosses drop the Lords souls from 1.
I ignored that one because it's not even a good point: Souls can get scattered everywhere across the world. Iron King had one of the Lord Souls and he came from somewhere other than Drangleic.
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>>319969061
>>319969259
just dropping in on this
>I ignored that one because it's not even a good point
what?
do you know what game you are playing? most lore is via item description you cant ignore that shit you twat
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>>319969259
>Hard evidence isn't good enough, I'm going to stick with my headcannon that it isn't confirmed to be Lordran
Seriously stop, its embarrassing
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>>319969512
Did you even read the rest of my post?

>>319969516
>Hard evidence
>In a Souls game where 50% of the lore is speculation
It's not even hard evidence. Iron King doesn't come from Lordran and yet he built his Kingdom with a Lord Soul.
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>>319968808
>I'm more inclined to think Miyazaki's concept was the duality of light and dark, actually

Thats exactly the B-teams mentality when going into DS2. Miyazaki doesnt come up with such shallow concepts. You can think DS2's story and lore are a masterpiece for all I care. Doesnt seem like you can grasp what Miyazaki is trying to do anyway. Doesnt change the fact that DS2 is basically fan fiction tier in terms of world building, story, lore, and expanding on the general concepts of the first game.
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>>319969798
>Miyazaki doesnt come up with such shallow concepts.
What's so shallow about light and dark being neither good nor bad? It sounds infinitely more interesting than
>hurr fire and Gwyn are evil
>durr Dark is good humans will rise up

That doesn't even make sense actually, since the Age of Dark just ends up hollowing everyone.
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ye

after bloodborne DaS1/2 dont feel anywhere near as good, and das3 looks b0ss
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>>319969901

Gwyn's not evil though. Hes just a dude who worked hard to maintain a stable infrastructure. Of course he and the people under him are going to do everything they can to maintain it and not want to let it go. Dark isnt good or bad either. Its just the next era to come. The Age of Dark doesnt cause people to hollow, losing your humanity does.

The story of DS2 is literally the same thing as DS just dumbed down with muh darkness and muh light.
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>>319969798
Holy fuck this blind worship.

What's sad is you are worshiping fanwank by youtubers likes vaati and acting like the game creator said they are right
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>>319969639
the only thing i can think of that might back you up is if i remember right, Vendrick was corrupted by someone who came from very far away aka Nashandra a piece of manus

there was also somthing about the flame being brought in from the east

then there is the part they say some believe it is lordran some believe it is not

i was this guy >>319969512
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I pirated Dark Souls II back when it came out. I was playing Dark Souls 1 then. Gonna play that first build, is this a good idea?
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>>319970614

I've never watched a Vaati video, especially after hearing how much of a shill he was for DS2. If i worshiped him, shouldnt I be praising DS2 too?

The concepts of the games are in plain sight and are easily understandable if you have any sort of reading comprehension. I dont need some loser Youtube shill to tell me what to think.
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>>319956997
No
Still triggered from scholar of the first sin being bad
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>>319970580
I never said Gwyn was evil. I was referring to your post here >>319968225
where you claim Gwyn is some type of God oppressing the humans when that's not true at all. I mean yeah, Gwyn is a dick, but he was never a problem.

>The story of DS2 is literally the same thing as DS
I just explained to you earlier that it isn't. DaS is about dealing with the end of an era whereas DaS2 is about the cyclic nature of things and humanity's attempts to break free of said cycle.

>The Age of Dark doesnt cause people to hollow, losing your humanity does.
When the fire fades, people become cursed with the Dark Sign. It literally only happens because there's no Flame.

>muh darkness and muh light
So basically DaS? Or were you not aware Linking the Fire & Dark Lord basically represent what you just said?
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>>319961162
all the bullshit is right there in 1 too. no idea why people say this.
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>>319970765
>the only thing i can think of that might back you up
I'm not making any claims. You and that other Anon claim Drangleic takes place in Lordran.

I just asked for proof and neither of you could give it to me, so you said that Drangleic has the same Lord Souls.

But as I said, Iron King did not come from Drangleic.

It sounds to me like you haven't played DaS2 at all.
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>>319956997
Nope, not really. Souls games are fun to watch Let's Plays of, but kinda boring to play yourself. There is no real thrill to me to these games since you are immortal.
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>>319971178

>>319969639
>Iron King doesn't come from Lordran and yet he built his Kingdom with a Lord Soul.

Iron King is within the realm that is Dragleic, which is Lordran. His souls description clearly says "He possesses the soul of an ancient king of long ago".

Shalquoir mentions Gwyn in her dialog "A vainglorious liar who ended up hurling himself into the flames. Now he's **Ichorous Earth**, if I'm not mistaken."

If you cant make these connections, you are hopeless.
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>>319971787
>Iron King is within the realm that is Dragleic,
What, no.

Brume Tower is NOT in Drangleic. All of the references to him and Alonnne mention them as being 'from a faraway land'.

Furthermore, Ivory King's Kingdom is right over the Old Chaos, which was right underneath Lordran in DaS. Yet, it's directly stated that the Ivory Kingdom is somewhere far up North of Drangleic.

Just give it up Anon, you haven't even played DaS2.
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>>319971342
The Old Iron King began his days as a little-known and unestablished lord, with a lust for power and glory. He was approached by Sir Alonne, a great warrior from the east, who helped him forge a kingdom for himself from the old Kingdom of Venn.

i dont really have much spot on knowledge about Venn and Alken/Alkens

do some research yourself at this point its more i dont know soo spoonfeed me
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Maybe the game will actually have a story this time.
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>>319971178
>Gwyn is some type of God oppressing the humans when that's not true at all

It is true though. Hes not completely oppressive, everyone seemed to live in harmony, but the gods of Lordran were always above humans. You can tell by how the NPCs refer to you and the undead in general.
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>>319972424
Gwyn didn't oppress humans at all. He always feared them, but I don't recall reading anything about him treating them poorly until the curse happened and people were going hollow, then they all got sent to the slammers.
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le thumbs up man
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>>319972016

There is literal hard evidence to support that the Iron King is the reincarnated Gwyn in the game, directly told by NPCs but your head canon is too strong to believe otherwise.
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>>319961942
Then you're a narrow-minded dimwit who's opinion doesn't matter, which is why DaS 3 is going to concern parts of 2.
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>>319956997
Trying not to be, a lot of the little things I've seen look like they're going to be kinda sloppy. In the network test the longsword outranged the UGS, R1spam was way too good and ganks are even more in the hosts favor than DS2 and rolling is ridiculous. Maybe they tighten things up before release, maybe my impressions are wrong, maybe there's enough depth otherwise that it doesn't matter, but at least pvp wise I'm not sure if they've managed to fix any of the problems with the past games.
Its fucking hard to resist though, watching the gameplay from psx.
>those greatarrows
>that kumo moveset
>that kinda boring looking boss going "you thought that was it? Phase Two motherfucker"
From knows what I want to see, at least.
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>>319961306
I think he means after DaS2
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Is Demon's Souls still worth going back and playing if you've never played it?
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>>319956997
Yeah.
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I really wish DaS3 has breast sliders
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>>319973386
Stop calling it headcanon, you mong. Everything is headcanon unless explicit.

>literal hard evidence to support
Yes, which is why it's probable that Drangelic and Lordran are built upon the same land, and that Anor Londo turned into Heide's Tower.

And yet there are also pieces of evidence, like the whole Old Chaos + Ivory King thing the other anon mentioned, that make it seem like it's a different place.

The Lord Souls might have just been reincarnated in a different place. Doesn't matter. Hoping DaS3 does something more interesting.
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>>319975902
Would be good if they wouldn't have man-shoulders for a start
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>>319975902

SOURCE
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>>319976340
Nancy Quill
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>>319974253
Absolutely.
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If the PC version gets delayed for 2 months for no fucking reason again I'm not gonna bother.
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Bloodborne 2 when?

;___________;
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>>319959939
>Before PC, you were immature mspaint making morons who think ganking is hardcore pvp

And after PC, I can only assume it got substantially worse.
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If the bosses are on the same level of the ones in The Old Hunters, then DS3 will amazing.

PVP looks good too so far from the beta
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>>319976691

I'd rather get it later than deal with bugs and compatibility issues. The Dark Souls 2 port was decent but From is still really inexperienced with PC games.
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>>319977004
As much as I love Bloodborne, I just want another Armored Core. It's been too long
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SoTFS was better than ds1 in pretty much every single thing.
Except maybe the dark lighting. But they fixed that in ds3.
So yeah going to enjoy ds3 while drinking /v tears
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>>319977004
Never, anon. Never.
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>>319978668
>I just want another Armored Core
no you dont fuck you

im tired of fucking AC just as im getting tired of souls games

make a new ip for fucks sake
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>>319979285
Drinking tears is the most faggot thing to say

you might as well be going "U MAD xD"
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>>319964183

Did Bloodborne get a sticky?

Cause I remember all the GOLD FACE falseflagging threads
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>>319956997
I don't know. Going back to the souls series after Bloodborne is tough. Everything in Bloodborne is just better.

Miyazaki is hyping up weapon arts as the great new thing to make DaSIII fresh, but it's not new.
It's just an L2 that costs MP.
DaS2 had some L2s. Bloodborne had them on everything that took two hands, and unlike weapon arts, they had combos.
The only promising battle art is the battle axe's, which changes the weapon's r2s, but that's not even close to Bloodborne's transformed weapons.
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I enjoy Bloodborne in short bursts, but DaS2 ruined my love for the series. Fuck I put hubdreds of hours into DeS and DaS, but DaS2 made me quit right after a beat the game on NG+.
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>>319956997
somewhat. dark souls 2 wasn't really that great but then again maybe with Miyazaki's direction it will be improved.
i mean Bloodborne was pretty fucking good imo, so I have high hopes for it.
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>>319980694
I agree they aren't the huge new mechanic people are hyping it up as, but some of them at least are more than just another attack that costs mana.
The longsword enters a stance and out of that you can R1 or R2 for a thrust or a lunging guardbreak/ The legion scimitars change most of their entire moveset when they change to dual wielding , the axe is a dragon roar + new R2s. If they're well enough designed they add more options than just a single addition to the moveset would.
Obviously it depends on how well they're designed, but Bloodborne did show that From is at least capable of doing it
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>>319979872
I...kinda agree with this guy, actually. Armored Core may be niche, but that doesn't change the fact that we still have a shitload of them.

A current-gen AC would be nice, but I would also prefer to see From try something new.
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>>319959992
>consolefags start memes
>blame pc players
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>>319979872
Or just do both.
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SKELETON COVENANT!!!!
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>>319956997
Yep, looks great
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>>319961891
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>>319963020
>fires dying down maybe I can catch a nap
>NO WE NEED OUR NIGHTLIGHT

I really hope that ds2 isn't refrenced almost at all in this one
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Yeah. Looks like it's going to be pretty good.
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I just hope the replayability is going to be decent for DaS3. I know they're going to add new stuff in NG+, but I hope the game will be good all the way through. I can't even finish NG+ in DaS because I get bored after Anor Londo. At least in DaS2, even if a lot of zones were shit, you could bonfire ascetic the ones you liked and fight their bosses. But bonfire ascetics won't come back for DaS3.
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Lets be clear and sum it up :
>Blodborne was made by the A-Team which probably started working on it like 4 years ago
>DaS3 is made by the Team that made DaS II after they finished that abomination, the only difference is that Miyazaki gives some fucks about it now.

There is a higher chance it will be shit than good,i couldnt stand II. It was like a russian mod that fucked up everything about 1.
I hope they learned their mistakes now tho.
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>>319983060
>>DaS3 is made by the Team that made DaS II after they finished that abomination,
DaS3's development started before DaS2 retard.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EH3-cXIDYI

Even the bosses look like Bloodborne
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Yes I am, my most anticipate game of 2016. No amount of /v/ counterculture will make me hate that series.
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I stopped enjoying the game once the lore stopped being "what if such and such..." and started being "Vaati vidya said..."

This is the first and hopefully last time a single person ruins a series for me.
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I'm just concerned about the level design. DeS, DaS, and BB all have fantastic levels, but DS II was just a complete mess with dead ends and teleporters everywhere
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>>319983116
On full speed it started after DaS2 by the same team while the other one was finishing Bloodborne.


Retard
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>>319983116
So it's made by the C-Team? Great.
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>>319973749
Shut up faggot. DaS 2 was nowhere near as good as DaS 1. Get over it and shove it up your ugly ass.
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>>319983116
yeah and that make sense to you?
lets make the 3rd game first and then the second
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I'm looking forward to it. I got into the series way too late, so Bloodborne was the only game I played completely blind and at release. I look forward to discovering Dark 3 on my own.
Being on /v/ just meant I absorbed a ton of Dark Souls spoilers and info by osmosis. I should have gotten into the series back when I first heard about it, rather than waiting so long.
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>>319983175
If someone "ruins" a game for you you're fucking retarded
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>>319983225
The problem with DaS2 wasn't really the teleportation. Personally I don't like it, but DeS and BB both basically had teleportation from the start and have great levels. It just had a terrible development process and they had to scrap a ton of shit. Still hope there's some sort of limitation of fast travel but From pretty much always makes great levels unless something specifically fucks them up
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>>319983057
I just hope the bosses don't have insane health after a few playthroughs
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Dark Souls 2
>Roll behind enemy
>Enemy clips around 180° within less than a frame and hits you hard.

>Enemies all have homing arrows - you don't
>Enemies all have infinite stamina

>Controls suck - left analog stick has a 30°dead angle in every direction

>Map-Design/Layout is shit and FFXIII tier at best.

>Carrying capacity and adaptability values

>Soul Matchmaking
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>>319956997

Sun Bro's are coming back
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Will this game have any levels different from "generic grey city"? Because the original DaS was so good in big part because of its diversity of environments and enemies. Will there be unique, creepy and outlandish levels such as Blighttown, Ash Lake, TOTG? So far this game seems like it's lacking imagination compared to DeS and DaS.
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Just jailbroke my ps3 and in the process of getting demons souls + dark souls 1/2 for the first time

what should i expect?
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>>319983910
people were saying the same thing about bloodborne, I'd be surprised if that was the only kind of area
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>>319979285
dumb bteamposter
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>>319984129
you should expect a shit experience without the multiplayer component

people who pirate souls games are very dumb, they are losing out on so much
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>>319983910
We've seen gameplay of, what, two areas? And they didn't look identical.
I wish /v/ would stop trying to make everything into another Tortanic.
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>>319984209
PvP is boring. Co-op is fun, though.
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No, because hype leads to disappointment.
I've also just not been following any news at all about it so that way everything is really new when I'll play it
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>>319984209
are the servers dead? i can still play multiplayer for the current firmware
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>>319984389
they arent, the games are active on PC, dunno about the PS3 playerbase though
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Can we all agree that Dark Souls' soundtrack was the best at least?
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>>319984209
The invasions sucked as and the Co op made the game a joke. I'm glad they tweaked magic so no more "let me buff 5 times" guys. I'm looking forward to playing sotfs and see how it plays now.
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>>319984487
yes
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>>319984487
Bloodborne is the best of the four. Though Dark Souls certainly has some top notch tracks.
Who's composing for 3? Is it the new Bloodborne guy?
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>>319984147
But BB was indeed mostly a grey (sickdark) city, the only different areas were the woods (still grey) and the nightmares. Sure, the design is still great, but I'd like to see some truly outlandish places like in the first 2 games. It seems like this new Miyazaki is more interested in fast button-mashing action than creating a unique, memorable game world.
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>>319984487
The most well-produced and atmospheric. You can even hear real instruments in there!
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>>319984487
Post favourite tracks.

Demons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7T05Lm9mjw
Dark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbTI_Bzy29I
Dark 2: No standout tunes I can recall
Bloodborne: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RzA_Oomra8
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No. I'm willing to give it a chance, but 2 really killed my trust in the series.
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>>319985081
>sickdark
Noice.

>>319985292
Bloodborne renewed my trust, so I'm confident it'll be good. Dark Souls 2 is one of those things that turned out so bad that it only happens once.
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>>319984904
BB soundtrack has too much generic hollywood HROOOM. Sakuraba perfectly pulled off the baroque sound for DaS1.
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>>319985472
Not sure what you mean by "generic hollywood HROOOM", but BB has probably the best soundtrack in the series. Very diverse, very well composed and also recorded live.
Dark Souls has a lot of bad tracks, you just don't remember them. Do you remember what Quelaag's boss fight sounded like? Do you remember the music from Seathes?
Dark Souls had some great tracks, but a lot of it was just bland and forgettable.
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>>319985348
I've only played two or so hours of Bloodborne myself, so I can't really comment on it's overall quality. 2's DLC is constantly praised as being a huge improvement, but it was the same shit as the base game with bigger damage sponge generic enemies and more NPC invaders that can freely ignore mechanics because DIFFICULTY. If I end up fully playing BB before 3 it may renew my interest in the series, but for now I remain cautiously pessimistic.
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I want a new Lost Kingdoms game
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>>319985603
>BB has probably the best soundtrack in the series
Lots of wailing really turns me off. I'd like the music akin to 'Phalanx' and 'Old King Allant' of DeS and Gwyn theme.
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>>319985903
>Lots of wailing
Again, I don't know what you're trying to say. Bloodborne's soundtrack is fully orchestrated, there's none of the weird synthy shit that ruined some of the other games' music.
>get up to tower knight
>hyped for a sick ass fight with a giant knight
>"HO HO HOHOHO
>HO HO HOHOHO"
I'll agree that Dark's soundtrack was better than Demon's, at least.
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>>319985603
Have DaS soundtrack in my playlist right now, remember most of it. It positively differs from BB by having actual melodies in the tracks! See, I really don't like listening to Mr. Hollywood Giacchino wailing on his violin without rhyme or reason. And that's how the majority of Bloodborne tracks sound. The only track that I remember having a memorable melody is Cleric Beast.
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>>319983131
Honestly this looks good to me. All smiles
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>>319986012
>>319986081
Oh and by the way, the melody of "Cleric Beast" goes like this: HOLLY WOOD WOOD WOOD, HOLLY WOOD WOOD WOOD, HOLLY WOOD WOOD WOOD, WOOD WOOD WOOD WOOD WOOD WOOD!!!
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>>319986081
You're demonstrably incorrect, anon. Bloodborne has a couple forgettable tracks, but the majority are memorable and have a great melody. Ebrietas' theme is kind of orchestra noise, but still pretty good.
Dark Souls wasn't that melodic anyway. You can hum about 5 of the tracks, the rest are just synthetic orchestra noise.
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>>319956997
Yes
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>>319984221
I get the feeling a significant chunk of /v/ wasn't even here for TORtanic but try to force it onto new games anyways.
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>>319981932

But every Souls covenant is a skeleton covenant, anon.

Because they're all bare bones.
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>>319985267
>No standout tunes
I feel the exact same way. The only thing I can remember is Majula.
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>>319983910

>Dark Souls variety
>stating that as if Dark Souls 2 didn't have the most varied environments
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>>319986204
>Cleric Beast music changes depending on when you fight it
>that Cleric Beast remix for Laurence
I want to give Bloodborne's composers all a blowjob.
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>>319986484
I also remember the most pathetic attempt at horror music ever: TU DU, TA DE DU DE!
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