Silent Hill thread.
> favorite Silent Hill
> least favorite Silent Hill
> favorite Protagonist
> favorite Antagonist
Expanding on this choices would make this dick hard
> bonus round: how would you fix Silent Hill
I'll come out and say it, I'm glad PT failed. That shit became a hype machine, and if you know anything about video games in 2015, it should be that hype is poison.
>>319927808
>Fav. SH
P.T.
>Least favorite.
3
>Favorite protag
Norman
>Favorite Antagonist
Lisa
>>319927808
>Favorite SH
One, though three comes close behind
>Least Favorite
SH4, but I'm excluding the crap that came after 4.
>Favorite Protag
Heather.
>Favorite antagonist
Walter Sullivan
>How would you fix Silent Hill
Make things less about an evil town and more about occult shit.
>>319927978
I actually kind of agree. In my head it worked as more of a tech demo for the Fox Engine doing horror than indicative of the final project that silent Hills would've been.
> favorite Silent Hill
Silent Hill
> least favorite Silent Hill
I only beat 1 and 2 so 2, but I'm not even close to disliking it
> favorite Protagonist
Harry
> favorite Antagonist
Dahlia and Alessa
> bonus round: how would you fix Silent Hill
Make it about the town as a storytelling device rather than make the story around the town. It's hard to explain but I'll never forget how the first game slowly drove you insane, starting with the dark passageway and getting a mandatory game over and a cop giving you a fucking gun and ending with a fight with either God or the Devil.
If I were to play SH 2-4 on PC, would an Xbox360 controller work or do I need to use some software to trick it into thinking it's a PS2 controller or a PC gamepad released a decade ago or something like that?
torn between 3 and 2.
2 had that sweet story but 3 was overall a more solid game.
Reminder that Downpour wasn't that bad.
>>319928424
Too big and lacked focus. The story also is kind of bad and the horror lacking. That said I appreciate the approach.
>>319928298
PT itself was a great thing, and it should have ended there. By the time they were about to can it, every announcement was "AND THEN THIS COOL GUY IS COMING TO WORK ON IT TOO" and that is unrealistic and bloated. They sounded more like fans throwing every wacky idea in without knowing how to make a game dev team really work.
>We'll never have a competent team ever working on a SH-game again
>>319928398
I felt like SH3 would have been the best had it not clearly rehashed areas from SH2, but instead revisited areas from the first game, since it had more to do with Harry's journey there as oppose to southern Silent Hill. I also would have liked to explore the town again, since it felt like it was too linear.
![images[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FkBj68m.jpg "images[1].jpg")
I wonder what Cold Heart could have been like.
>>319928735
My fucking heartchances of them working together on something else? Think of all the horror and TECHNOLOGY
Man SH3 had the spookiest sound design
https://youtu.be/JT0Im48hjRk?t=58s
>>319928959
Pretty high. Everyone involved still wants to work on a project together.
>>319929073
Didn't Del Toro say that he is done with the video game industry?
>>319927808
> favorite Silent Hill
2
> least favorite Silent Hill
Out of the first 4? 3
Overall? SM
> favorite Protagonist
Walter :^)
> favorite Antagonist
James :^)))))
>>319929131
Nope, he later rectified that. It's on his twitter somewhere, but he specifically said he would work with Kojima on anything, anytime.
>favorite Silent Hill
2 and 3 are tied
> least favorite Silent Hill
4 is garbo
> favorite Protagonist
Heather
> favorite Antagonist
Mary
>>319929073
Especially Norman Reedus.
>>319929131
Because no other game would have matched his interest like Silent Hills.
>>319928862
>I would suspect that the reason for her sadness and the therapy would have been similar to Shattered Memories: that one or both of her parents are probably dead, she has repressed the memory, and experiences nightmares of Silent Hill as a subconscious attempt to confront these repressed memories.
As much as this is a guy on the editor's part, I think this would have been what the plot was about.
>Muh repression
>Muh guilt
>>319929234
I wouldn't exactly call Mary an antagonist.
>>319928735
Why were people so excited about Ito's involvement? I've seen his stuff. It's never scary. More non-sequitur than anything.
>>319928848
The only rehashed area was the Hospital, even then the Otherworld version was a total overhaul of that area.
>>319929350
He knows the horror genre and has a different angle on it.
His ideas and designs are really spooky, he just sucks at telling stories.
>hospitals are scawy!
>little kids go to school, and that's scawy!
>oh no, religion sure is scawy!
>i cant see across the street... SCAWY
Honestly a pretty shaky premise that still managed to work.
>>319929648
nice. very nice.
OP here, I love silent hill and I'm a little buzzed and beer so another question is what were the later games (after SH4) fail at were lacking in? Besides the obvious being poorly made games on the cheap
>>319929791
American understandings of horror.
>>319929539
Dear god, it's one thing for bodily fluids like blood and cum to be drenched on people, but waste fluids like pus is just some disgusting shit.
>>319929791
Trying to rehash Silent Hill 2.
>>319929539
This is gross, but it's just not scary. I've never seen Ito's stuff as any more than non-sequitur dadaism.
>>319929791
American understandings of horror and trying to rehash Silent Hill 2.
>>319929982
It really is this. They blew the wad so hard on 2 and later games just tried too hard to tell us how cool it was.
>>319929791
Most of them completely misunderstood the vision of the original Team Silent.
They just rehashed the story of SH2 over and over again instead of trying different types of stories and horror.
>>19927808
> favorite
SH1
> least
Downpoor
> protagonist
Harry & Heather
> antagonist
Walter
> how'd I fix the series
buy SH's IP out of Konami, set up a new team out of ex-Team silent people, and give them rights to the game.
anyway, here's the Download links again:
SH1 NTSC DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!bVUCTJzD!PmnPw4S7fWGyvTjw9S0-RQdk7rRp2BQNuXJqRkZCZvk
SH2 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!rFcj1SIJ!47JH9M4OrzmQKuaiJ6IqUgmgz_SVNtk4LIYNSa-D-_8
SH2 torrent:
https://mega.nz/#!bYcEnbhC!rYnhvcJiRC46T6yExS0Y61JHZ-5N3WxFvfZMI8xbyhE
SH3 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!2JNkgJ7b!nfPf5cIs6I5K-sdAs7RcnHvGA2hAvIGdpQuIoBhF3iE
SH3 torrent:
https://mega.nz/#!GVVGRLpD!SyklVbuLIkc38ZYji5QL3sWHKtHt9-Bto700My8pH7c
SH4 torrent: Kickass torrents
And in case someone's once again new to this PC gaming stuff: Use a program like DaemonTools Lite to mount the ISOs of 2 & 3, and then run their installers like always.
The SH1 is a PS1 rip that you gotta emulate.
The "sh2proxy" works as a no-cd crack as well, and is included in the pack.
>>319928372
please respond
>>319929982
>>319930047
>>319930138
that's also a big problem in the "fanbase" of SH.
Most of these people don't understand that SH isn't always a manifestation of the sins of the MC.
I always wonder whether they have actually played a SH game (outside of SH2)
>>319928848
>tumblr
kill yourself
post more of your little sister anonI know you're here:3
>>319930337
It's funny because you can clearly see it in the Hotel on 2, with the flooded floor and the rooms became a bit brighter. That's because James was really close to Alessa.
>>319930593
no no no no n o no no
>>319927808
I think the idea of government members being cult members would be interesting. The idea of people with such influence and power believing in such a dangerous and extreme religion, and working behind the scenes to push their agendas towards summoning God and bringing about the apocalypse.
>>319930593
What is this post talking about?
>>319929648
you could trivialize any horror game, movie or book by spouting "x sure is scawy!"
on itself, it doesn't make it a good argument against a game/movie/book
>>319930328
>>319928372
The xbox pad would work, but not perfectly. The Xinput system didn't exist back when the games came out.
at best, you only need to rebind keys. At worst, you may have to use some xpadder kind tool.
I personally play them with KB only. Feels fine with the tank controls.
>fav
Silent Hill 1, it always drove me up the wall with how scary it is. It's on my list of games I play yearly.
>least
Barring post-4, then 4. It's not shit but I just don't like it as much as the first 3.
Harry was my favorite protagonist just because I loved the looking for your daughter everyman angle. As for antagonist it's hard to say, but I suppose Dahlia was pretty cool in a goofy, crazy, ridiculously evil way.
I'd fix Silent Hillby going back in time and retiring the franchise after 4.
>>319930718
I think it would be a bit too overaching of a story to fit the Silent Hill universe. Not that the concept isn't interesting, but the town kinda only works because Alessa is behind everything. Maybe a prequel talking about her story? That could work.
Akira Yamaoka was GOAT in the original trilogy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGUi6spQ9M0
>tfw he has also given up on the series
>>319930337
The nuances of the cult are lost on some people, especially with the religious doctrines and lore they've got to take in. SH2's disconnection from the cult makes it easy for people to pick up and play while playing connect the dots with the monsters and James's psyche.
SH2 really, is great for the story and characters, but as a game, it's pretty weak compared to SH1 and 3 which offered a greater challenge and more spooks by comparison.
>>319930901
It's a good argument because horror relies too heavily on being every other horror work. It relies on you not having seen things many times while showing you the same things many times, it's one of the most flawed genres of any entertainment mode. The more you see it, the less it works.
Saying "It's not a good argument" isn't a good argument, however.
>>319930962
I don't think Alessa is needed for Silent Hill to function. All you have to do is the right kind of ritual.
>>319930718
I'm not sure, I like that the cult is a smaller thing that not many people know about because it adds to its mystique. That said it would be interesting to explore ab ex cult member or someone who was from the cult and reached an influential place in American media or culture
>>319931126
Well SH did a different spin on these scenarios and also was one of the first real horror games
>>319929873
>>319929982
>>319930138
>mfw Homecoming was originally a trilogy which was going to be about Alessa and Joshua Sheppard having a DBZ battle for Silent Hill's souls, while past protagonists would appear
>>319930964
Damn shame, Claw Finger and Eternal Rest are one of my favorite vidya songs ever.
>>319927808
> favorite Silent Hill
Silent Hill 3
> least favorite Silent Hill
Silent hill 4 - assuming 5 and on dont count
> favorite Protagonist
Heather
> favorite Antagonist
Vincent - kind of? its hard to place him, but i enjoy his mind games and hedonistic nature.
Otherwise Eddie Dombrowski. he'd be a good poster boy for anti-bullying campaigns.
>>319931179
I get what you're saying. To be clear I'm not talking about it being an accepted or known about thing, more like a group of secret members who specifically got into politics with the intention of using those positions to try and fulfill their religion's beliefs.
>>319931260
>SH did a different spin on these scenarios
They really didn't. The setting itself had parts that were unique to it, but not enough for your half-statements to support with evidence.
>>319931178
I understand your reasoning, but the point is that pretty much everyone that started that ritual is dead thanks to Alessa's powers, aren't they? Not that your idea can't be explored on a prequel or a reboot or something.
>>319931415
>i enjoy his mind games and hedonistic nature.
he's in like two fucking scenes in the entire game
>>319930718
I had an idea for a open world Silent Hill game where the government-through a certain amount of experiments and rituals are able to spread the essence of Silent Hill country/worldwide to build a Utopia through it. Like a heavenly paradise since they believe the people who are guilty of sin will fall victim to Silent Hill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1VKvED76WQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiH4wOkSzGs
I recommend watching these. You really understand how each of the major players in the team was really passionate about the series.
Such a shame that most of Team Silent is working on mobile games now
>>319931126
i think horror in SH works pretty well because it builds up tension by not showing you stuff, relying instead on atmosphere and sounds to make a player feel uneasy
i agree that it's harder to build this tension in other media tho, since this buildup relies on the observer being in control and being aware that something is wrong but not knowing when/what is going on
and mine wasn't an argument, it was an observation
>>319931635
>open world
please no.
>>319931356
With Pyramid Head having a larger role, Elle being Laura, along with Heather and Henry returning.
Oh, and don't forget that Origins was being developed as a dark comedy inspired by the T.V. show "Scrubs".
>>319931356
calling bullshit on this, nobody but david cage is retarded enough to put DBZ battles in their game of an entirely unrelated genre
>>319931816
How else would you want a Silent Hill game of that magnitude?
>>319931356
>>319932005
And Alessa was suppose to control fire while Josh controlled water.
>>319927808
>favorite SH
2
>least favorite
homecoming, I mean downpour at least tried.
>favorite prontagonist
James Sunderland
>favorite antagonist
Walter Sullivan
>how to fix
I think that series needs some fresh ideas and fresh invironment, but taking into the account that everything is changeable according to prontagonist/antagonist fucked up mind I don't think that having silent hill as a setting would be bad, but we can't have everything happening in the hospital/school all over again, show some new places and expand silent hill itself to be more open. What I am sure is that you need Japanese developers to be at the core of the game so we won't get another western "holywood" spooky shit instead of horrifying and kind of unsettling/disgusting atmosphere of Japanese horror, but I think that you will need to work with some western developers to bring a fresh air to series, maybe even work with some slavs, their games usually have a dark and depressing atmosphere anyway.
>>319927978
I don't really get you, it was a tech demo showcasing what can be done and which fresh ideas can be incorporated into (radio, increased interactivity with the world), if you are talking about how people always overhype something and when they get it it doesn't match their retarded high and specific expectation well there is not much to talk about then. But with c
>>319932025
I think the point is that Silent Hill games don't work on that "magnitude", as you put it.
>>319931725
>i think horror in SH works pretty well because it builds up tension by not showing you stuff
Yep, that's pretty common in horror. It sounds like you're changing your tune because you can't maintain your "point."
>i agree that it's harder to build this tension in other media tho
Who are you agreeing with?
>and mine wasn't an argument, it was an observation
Asinine redacting, stop replying if you're just going to backpedal.
>>319932025
not at all. I think one major part of the SH games is that you are stuck in a city/ building/ whatever.
>>319928236
Do you have that pic uncensored?
Anyone?
>>319932429
Don't sexualize Heather.
>>319932238
why are you desperately trying to have an argument in this thread?
Your opinion is different and that's fine, stop baiting people into useless discussions because they have different opinions
>>319932504
Her name is Cheryl.
>>319932025
i wouldn't want a SH of that magnitude. i'd rather have cracked streets and knee-high picket fences funneling me into a linear progression.
that said, i liked the "side quests" idea of downpour, but i'd rather see it implemented on the way to the objective rather than wandering around and suddenly deciding that stopping to recover the heart of some random corpse among many others takes priority on minding my own problems
>>319931917
>Oh, and don't forget that Origins was being developed as a dark comedy inspired by the T.V. show "Scrubs".
Gonna need a citation on that. I know the west can't into horror, but this is just reprehensible.
>>319930047
>American understandings of horror
I think the Japanese guys who made Silent Hill would disagree with that.
>tfw PT was the best horror game of the last decade
>>319932542
If you don't want to argue, stop replying to posts by telling them "i disagree because of this reason." Do you know what an argument is?
>>319932238
and here's your complementary (you), cya when you have something to say
>>319932567
I really liked Shattered Memories approach to "side missions". They were spooky as fuck and had little side stories that you could explore while you were on the way to "main story points"
>>319927808
favorite
1 or 2 cant decide. 1 has better horror, enemies, bosses and riddles, but 2 has better soundtrack and story
>least favorite
i've only played 1-3, so 3.
>favorite protag
harry
>favorite antagonist
alessa
gonna replay 1-3 over winter break after i'm done studying for finals. definitely have to give 3 a better shot now that i understand heather's role better. and gonna get a different ending for all 3. thinking good+, ufo and revenge
>>319927808
>> favorite Silent Hill
Easy one for me: 1
>> least favorite Silent Hill
BOM(like fuck whoever thought a horror game that creates feelings of isolation would make a 4 player coop game).
>> favorite Protagonist
Based Girl Heather, she was the least retarded out of all the protags IMO and her story was interesting.
>> favorite Antagonist
Dr. Kaufman mainly because I had a crush on him and wanted his dick badly. Which was sad because Harry was a faggot(doesn't tap Lisa when he has the chance) and should have at least hit on the man. Anyway, Kaufman wouldn't have wanted a beta fuck like him anyway.
>> bonus round: how would you fix Silent Hill
Less monsters, but more mind fuckery. Creating situations where the player would expect a jump scare or monster only to find out there is none there. Of course, the game would know which playthrough the player is on, so the part where they expected something, but nothing was there will have a monster show up. Keep things fresh that way. Give weapons(unbreakable melee weapons), but ammo would be scares and fighting monsters would be largely pointless as you can't kill them just incapacitate them for a while.
>>319930718
I vaguely remember some shit going down in the Mayor's office in one of these games.
>>319932679
>and it was just scary lights and noises with creepy girls jumping out at you
How to fix Silent Hill
>Stop rehashing Silent Hill 2
>Don't make it too combat orientated
>It doesn't have to take place in Silent Hill 100% of the time
>Stop reusing the same areas
>Don't fallow the movies
>Bring Akira for the music
>Make sure the endings don't contradict the narrative of the story you are trying to tell throughout the game
If all these are followed a Silent Hill game would be a 10/10.
>how to fix silent hill
Stop trying to explain things. The town should just be a backdrop for the character's story. The town doesn't need a backstory.
>>319932584
Just type Silent Hill Origins and Scrubs together and Google will give tons of shit on that.
>>319932806
i didn't play SM, but i think that's what i was shooting for. i like having snippets about other people's renditions of Silent Hill, but i don't see it as a reason to actually let them get in the way of the MC's survival. adding rewards to make them more appealing only demeans these stories.
if i don't feel like doing a u-turn to start a sidequest, dangling a medikit in front of my eyes is not going to make me more interested towards the sidequest's story
>>319933321
but that's wrong. That's only true for SH2
>>319933321
The town had a backstory in the first game, thunderhead.
>>319927808
Silent Hill 3
Downpour
Heather
Alessa
I'd bring it all back to Alessa, maybe a bridge game between SH1 and SH3. Make it absolutely nothing like Downpour. I can recognize that Homecoming at least tried and it did have a good design or two for the bosses. Downpour was just a fucking mess, random ass enemies like hobos and ghost police cars, the pyramid head ripoff that's not pyramid head (just put him in at that point, shit), the stupid ass fucking black hole chase sequences (the water otherworld was neat, and was far less prevalent sadly), and then the final boss...just...jesus christ Downpour was fucking so fucking awful, I didn't think it'd get worse after Homecoming, which at least tried and failed horribly.
Fuck man, I want more Alessa and the Gods, none of this "muh guilty" bullshit that SH2 spawned, should have just stayed to SH2 and that was it.
>>319933595
But Alessa is gone.
>>319933416
Yeah the "side missions" in SM were little audio snippets you'd get on your phone. You could then look around for more clues to what is going on in that snippet, there were clues in the environment that would trigger more audio snippets. So in the end you'd have one complete story of other people in Silent Hill.
The phone itself was really neatly implemented imo.
>>319933753
After Silent Hill 3, sure. But what about all the stuff in between SH Origins and SH1? What about all the stuff in between SH1 and SH3? You could definitely expand on events in between either of those. It'd be a little harder solely because her other half isn't there, but it could be done.
>>319931586
Just because the people who started a religion is dead. Doesn't mean the religion is gone.
Citation: Real Life.
>>319934027
Silent Hill 4 has shown that you don't need Alessa for Silent Hill to be Silent Hill.
>favoirte Silent Hill
3
>least favorite
I can't decide. All the bad ones are bad. Downpour, Homecoming, Origins, Book of Memories. Shattered Memories gets a pass, but not really a Silent Hill game because it kinda gave up on the supernatural (and the gore) and just went full psychological.
>favorite protagonist
Harry and Heather
>favorite antogonist
Claudia and Walter
>how would you fix Silent Hill.
I would maybe make a game that takes place in 1800s Silent Hill - back to the roots of The Order as how they start worshipping otherworld delusions thinking they are The God and angels they worship.
That or a game about Brahms, with Cybil as a commisioner and some other younger lady cop as her partner.
>>319934096
Pretty sure it'd be hard to get your hands on whatever records weren't destroyed on the town without getting hurt by Alessa unless you're an innocent kid. But whatever.
>>319929350
>it's never scary
Fuck you man :( I still dream nightmares about the snailpeople in Uzimaki
>>319934242
And so did Silent Hill 2, and look at what Silent Hill 2 caused. I love SH2, but it's the sole reason for the series downfall because everything tries to emulate it.
The same would be true if everything tried to emulate SH4. So far when things have focused on Alessa, Harry, Heather, whatever. Things have been SH and not complete jokes like Homecoming and Downpour were. Origins was bad, but solely because of the jumping back and forth with the mirrors and breakable weapons. Shattered Memories was actually a good spin. They both felt SH without completely ripping something off and doing it far far far worse.
>>319934506
But Alessa was defeated.
>>319934707
Was she? I'm not sure the baby on the original game made that clear. When does SH2 happen? Pretty sure she's alive on that one.
>>319934027
Forget that the Origins even exists. It's a total lore rape, without any logic either.
the post-SH1 events are well enough told in 3; Harry's on the run from cultists, even shoots one dead as self defense. Nothing special besides that happens.
>>319934703
Sorry, that I don't want the series to recycle everything.
>>319934702
i dunno man, Ito's stuff seems very eerie as long as you're thinking about it as a general idea, but while reading theCOMICSit just comes out as him trying to be as gross and whacky as possible, which is more funny that scary
>>319934027
>>319934918
They could adapt that Past Life comic.
>>319931612
First - wrong, he is in like 5-6 or something
Second - there are notes and a tape with him which gives you the backstory that he is clearly more interested in money and materialism than ushering a new paradise. He is also a very big part of the story since he is the one that actually leads Heather to both Leonard and Claudia.
>>319934707
More like the God was defeated, twice at this point. Not sure what else could potentially give rise to another demon presence like the cult deity, unless a new developer gets creative with the cult's lore.
>>319934840
She reincarnates Harry's babby who later becomes Heather. Alessa is 'dead' in a physical sense, but she does live on through Heather.
>>319934918
Past Life Comic.
>>319934932
It's already doing that with SH2. It's just a spooky town with muh guilt instead of Gods and Native Americans and other shit.
>>319934840
Well, Heather is as much Alessa as Cheryl was. Even more so actually, seeing how her figure faded out at the end of 1.
SH2 seems to take place fairly soon after 1, still during 1980s. SH3 happens in late 90s or very early 00s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVylTfkDP5c
Now that I think about it, this trailer really has this "Ito-style" to it.
>>319927808
>Fav SH
3
>Least favorite
haven't played all of them yet so for the time being i'd say 4 although i still enjoyed it
>Fav protag
Heather
>Fav antagonist
Walter
>>319935225
LEWD
>>319935291
I heard that SH3 at best takes place in 2003.
>>319935225
>>319935291
To be more specific, I'm talking about this part. I'm really sure whatever plot analysis I read it mentioned this room was like this because James was getting closer to Alessa.
>>319934968
but gross stuff are scary. Also, there are so many comics he has done, it is dumb to generalize - some are bad, others are good. I don't think it is just him trying to be as whacky and gross that is the most frightening about his tales though. Often there are some sense of that people are just living their ordinairy lives and then suddenly the ordinairy lifestyle becomes the scary part - like your fiancee being a creepy-ass head-larva, your neighbour is some creepy monster-lady and noone believes you, the super-famous model is actually a monster but everyone accepts it because she is a superfamous model right!?
>>319935258
You clearly don't understand how the town works. Or you wanna pretend that 2 has nothing to do with the rest of the series, which is even sadder.
as someone who is unfamiliar with the silent hill series how would you explain it to me?
>>319935505
isn't the hotel filled with water because that's what it actually looks like? There was a huge fire and then it got flooded? In the prison you see a building burning - I think it's because someone burned the hotel down.
>>319935583
You're in a town where spooky stuff happens.
>>319935583
play the first three games
>>319935583
Native American spirits, cults, demons, guilt and sexual frustration.
>>319935816
What about the fourth?
>>319935583
cults, pillows, letters, axes, toilets, dogs, etc.
>>319935456
The game came out in 2003.
Assuming that the SH1 happened around 1983, and that Heather is 17, it would set sh3 to year 2000
>>319935505
Nah, I don't think that any of the James' experiences had anything to do with Alessa. He'd just r
learned the truth, and the false world was now breaking apart.
>>319935583
play the three first games. Don't read any spoilers
>>319935918
quit while you're ahead
>>319935583
magic deserted town attracts people to make them go through a personal hell based on their traumas and fears
also all the doors are locked
>>319936147
that's only true for SH2 (and other SH games not worth mentioning)
>>319936005
The Silent Hill psychological effects only happen because of Alessa, Samael and Metatron's influences.
>>319935789
I really don't remember very well.
>>319936397
Nope. The town's area had had this weird "power" long before the settlers came to the area, and it had affected people for centuries. Maybe in lesser strength than after the Alessa incident, but still.
the series also shows that you can harness and borrow this power, even take it outside the town's borders.
and yeah, the hotel had infact been ruined by a fire ages before James arrived there in the game.
>>319937085
Yeah, I meant it in a way that Alessa was kind of the Gods' vessel.
Everything about SH4 is disappointing thus far. I've just stopped playing it at this point because I can only deal with so much. I can't imagine completing a whole game while feeling this way, and it's a shame because I love all the other 3. I just feel so compelled to play 4. Fuck, man.
>>319937356
whats disappointing about it? i've played 1-3 and was considering getting 4.
>>319927808
>How would you fix Silent Hill
By letting go, anon.
>>319937356
Shame. 4 isn't my favorite, but I did enjoy it nevertheless. It is also far higher quality game and SH title than any of the western sequels.
>>319937634
Not him, but SH4 is a bit polarizing title. Its game play was totally overhauled and more experimental, so it isn't the smoothest ride always.
I did dig the game's atmosphere, story and soundtrack a lot.
>>319927808
>3
>Homecoming, if you don't count that, 4
>James
>Henry, although he's still cool
To fix Silent Hill, retcon homecoming, retcon "The Order", which I believe was a mistranslation that was expanded upon in the non canon movies. Emphasize that "The Order" is actually just "That weird cult", and far more disorganized, as seen in Silent Hill 3 and 4, leaving WAY more of the story and setting open to explore.
If I were to make a new game, it'd be about a former Silent Hill cultist who's drawn back to the town to stop people from trying to create a new Alessa. More expanding upon what the dumbass cult members did precisely, more expanding upon the lore of 3 and 4. I'd try to steer clear of 1 and 2, as 1 is already continued upon in 3, and 2 is a standalone adventure (Although I'd made sure that Pyramid Head was canon a part of James' mind and his alone)
>>319929997
Jesus christ tip that fedora harder you fat faggot.
>>319927808
>favourite Silent Hill
1
>least favourite Silent Hill
out of the ones I've played (the first 4 and Origins) - Origins
>favourite protagonist
Heather - her observations and reactions were great
>favourite antagonist
Claudia
>how would you fix Silent Hill
By letting it stay dead
There's only so much you can do with the same setting/mechanics/story without everything getting stale or ridiculous. Besides, the story pretty much came full circle with 3, there was nothing left to add IMO
The Room tried something new but it mostly failed IMO (too bright, too much backtracking, escort mission), and everything after that didn't really interest me
Just invent new gimmicks (sightjacking, camera from FF, insanity meter etc.) and start a new IP
>>319937356
>I've just stopped playing it at this point because I can only deal with so much
It's because of Eileen, isn't it?
The Evil Within was the best Silent Hill game.
>>319940698
>Evil Within
>the best at anything
>>319940698
the evil within was terrible
>>319940698
>trying to keep the thread alive with obvious b8
