Are they right?
No one fucking cares about fucking threads about a potato robot or a girl who slaps her ass.
>>319807192
>vivian was trans
OH BOY I FUCKING LOVE THIS HOT FRESH MEME
Her sister called her a man as an insult, that's LITERALLY it, jump off a cliff fucking trapfags.
>>319807690
B-But muh futa
>>319807690
Vivian's a dude in every version of the game but the English and German. She's literally called an otokonoko in the Jap version. Goombella even says that "she's really a boy"
>>319807690
Who cares, if you repeat it often enough it becomes the truth.
>>319807192
I don't know enough about Vivian or Paper Mario, one series I sadly missed out on. However I am against censorship in all forms and believe that if someone doesn't like something they are more than free to ignore it.
I don't like a lot of things but I never demand them to be changed or removed to appease myself or some other group, why should game companies do the same to appease a group that may not even buy or use their product
>>319807192
Doesn't Nintendo still have Birdo?
>>319807192
>traps are trannies
>>319809234
to be fair I think the LGBTQ groups take whatever they can get their hands on as a win
>>319807192
yes
I'm not a hypocrite, I'm against all censorship on principle.
Even if it's a "minor" change that doesn't actually make the game worse. Even if I personally disagree with the content being censored. Even if the game is "trash" or not relevant to my interests.
It's never ever okay, and if you make an exception, you set a precedent. Others will follow.
This isn't about me wanting to see women's butts, which I do, it's about keeping your politics out of a form of artistic expression that isn't yours to control.
So yes, Vivian is trans and I think censoring her was just as bad as any other example.
But since I'm 99% sure a SJW made that image with the intention of implying "it's okay when it's censoring muh soggy knees", they are not right.
>Waifufags BTFO
>this is somehow a problem
So the difference is in 2004 people didnt really spread the word and people still loved the game.
So had the butt slap been removed during development before the video came out, it would have ended up just like it would in 2004 since people at large didnt know. The game itself would have been accepted as it was (barring any other problems arising) just like the mario game.
Its almost as if this shit doesnt matter.
>>319810468
thanks for that image anon
>>319809234
>Developing game
>Have Trap character
>They aren't trans
Can't wait for tumblr to be pissed off by this
>>319810468
>game maker removes slap
>not his to control
its his game bro let him do his thing
>>319808092
DAGA OTOKO DA
>>319810468
>muh soggy knees
muh freeze peach
>>319810468
Oh boy, can't wait to see this image posted whenever someone loses an argument, yet again.
Also I love how you say
>it's about keeping your politics out of a form of artistic expression that isn't yours to control.
Yet you and fags like you get buttblasted whenever an artist decides to change something that they feel isn't worth keeping around.
I mean, who are you to tell Capcom that they're not allowed to make changes to a game that isn't even released yet?
>doesn't effect gameplay
>/v/ goes apeshit
????
>>319807192
VIVIAN IS NOT TRANSGENDER
VIVIAN IS A DELICIOUS TRAP
SJWS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A TRAP IS
>>319812209
You just proved his point lmfaooo
>>319811502
I will probably sound like a tumblr fag, but anyway censorship is still wrong no matter how little.
I mean they deliberately changed something insignificant in the game, but the character was clearly supposed to be trans from the beginning and they only did it because they were worried audiences overseas wouldn't accept a trans person to begin with, when in all honesty it doesn't hurt the game or it's gameplay
>>319812404
That he's a hypocrite?
>>319810468
how can you say that david has a micropenis when he is clearly just a grower
>>319807516
Based on the number of replies these threads get, you are utterly wrong.
>>319812425
>censorship is still wrong no matter how little.
Careful anon, you're starting to deal in absolutes.
>>319812541
You got salty about a picture that he posted which talks about your exact same reaction to the topic.
>>319812696
and only sith deal in absolutes
>hurrdurr censorship is bad
You see this shit, faggots?
This shit is what "free speech" leads to.
Fuck free speech.
This is the only Vivian that matters.
>>319812836
But Siths have better lightsabers
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-people-who-will-make-you-regret-idea-free-speech/
>>319812778
I'm honestly more mad that he claimed to want to keep political shit from changing a creator's creations and then going on about how they shouldn't be allowed to change their creations of their own volitions.
"self-censorship" just seems like the newest may-may, especially when it gets spammed on the board daily.
>>319807690
Why do you even care? Localization only cut out the middle man. She's a girl no matter how you look at it, even if she's trans.
Don't tell me you're that insecure, anon.
>>319812850
>OW the edge
>>319812850
This is also a result of "free speech."
>>319812946
don't you patronize me you oppressive sithlord fuck
>>319812850
>I actually liked that movie.
>>319807192
>Vivian was trans
Eugh, not really. It was more a joke that she was a really pretty male, as far from her sisters as possible. And even then, it could be implied that her sisters just used masculine pronouns for her as a way to insult her. It's these faggots not even looking into things that they tout as 'their cause', like Naoto in P4.
>>319813358
Excuse me?! Shit lord is my trigger!!!! Stop oppressing me you cis fuck!!!!
>>319807192
>openly trans
OH GOODY, IT'S THIS FUCKING MEME AGAIN
HE'S NOT FUCKING TRANS, HE'S JUST A CROSSDRESSER
HE'S A GUY THAT ACTS AND DRESSES (FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM) LIKE A GIRL, BECAUSE HE DESIRES TO BE A GIRL
BECAUSE HE'S NOT, HE'S A GUY
AND HIS SISTERS REMIND HIM OF THIS AS AN INSULT
FUCKING HELL WHY ARE PEOPLE SO FUCKING STUPID
>>319812946
Damn straight they do, aspiration to be that Sith that gets Black lightsaber are real
>>319807192
Censorship in media is the removal of content that would be 'unacceptable'. It doesn't matter what constitutes 'acceptable', just the intent. It's still censorship regardless if:
1) you personally think the change is good or bad
2) you personally care or don't care about it
3) you personally think anyone who is in favor/opposed to the change deserves to be ridiculed or lauded
It isn't hypocrisy to 'defend' or 'fail to defend' one or the other. It also isn't hypocrisy to want one kind of thing to be censored but not another kind of thing.
What is hypocrisy is, like, insulting people for wanting uncensored sexiness and saying, essentially, "lol, its not censorship you nerd. You just want to see anime tiddies".
>>319813493
I'll take purple any day.
>>319807192
Oh course they're right.
>>319813492
>BECAUSE HE DESIRES TO BE A GIRL
That seems pretty trans to me my friend.
>>319813492
why do you care?
>>319812850
>Disguise the limit
Kek
>>319813558
It's about as much censorship and having your first draft being edited is censorship.
But according to you fucks, that'd be labeled as "self-censorship."
>>319813568
my bro purple is still awesome, favorite color, but you need to have a jedi crystal and a sith crystal to synthesize that
>>319813214
Yoshi Ono stated that he and his team want this game on the hands of everybody and didn't wanted to offend anyone. The only people that complain about this shit are SJWs, even normies don't know what the fuck Street Fighter is. It wasn't an external decision but they sure as hell were the primary and probably the ONLY reason.
>>319812850
OKAY OKAY
STOP
JUST DON'T PULL IT OUT AGAIN
>>319813492
>WHY ARE PEOPLE SO FUCKING STUPID
Because tumblr is obsessed with trying to find any "trans" representation in games, even bending facts to get what they want.
>>319813336
That was the result of network meddling.
>>319813492
This
It's the same shit they did with birdo
>>319813493
I'll tolerate different colored lightsabers but anything besides white core is an abomination
>Black core lightsabers
>Mis-matched colors
So what tumblr is saying if a dude wears a skirt he's a girl now, should be treated as a girl, and heterosexual men must find them sexually attractive?
Vivian was a crossdresser/trap/otokonoko in the nip release, not trans.
Vivian is cute. Traps are cute. Trans people are mostly goblins, with insides as ugly as their outsides.
>>319813634
Do you know what trans is?
>>319813718
Appealing to a wider audience is their decision since they're making the product and the game isn't officially released yet.
Again, who the fuck are you to tell them that they can't alter their product?
>>319807192
>>319809653
they apply their own preferred sexualities, and gender politics, onto fictional characters who have absolutely nothing to do with that shit
>>319813634
HE'S NOT "TRANS" UNTIL HE ACTUALLY GETS THE OPERATION YOU FUCKING DUMB SACK OF UGLY SHITUGH
>see all this threads
Holy shit i better start playing with rocks before its too late
>>319813492
>not trans, just a crossdresser
>because he desires to be a girl
you didn't proof read this did you?
>>319814013
>>319807192
Vivian isn't actually a tranny. It was just an insult.
>>319813852
it's canon that you can get two core colors that lead to a oddity, it's how Mace Windu got his Purple Saber, he had a synthetic core and the his blue core from Jedi training and he combined them when making his lightsaber
GOTY
>>319807516
Looks like you're wrong.
>>319814059
>being this stupid
>>319813965
Also, no I didn't proofread it. I'm actually kind of amazed it came out legible at all. This meme DOES piss me off a lot.
>>319814059
Read >>319813965
God all these uneducated fuckwits
>>319813938
Someone who feels like they are the opposite gender and commonly alters their behavior and appearance in order to be more in line with that.
>>319814013
Tell me more about how GamerGate doesn't harass people.
>>319813819
That's the the result of the exact opposite, actually.
They basically gave John free reign with that iteration of the show, and it turned out that he's an unfunny hack who relies on toilet humor too much.
>>319814151
yes but black core lightsabers are fucking stupid and Mace Dindu nuffin's purple lightsaber isn't the same as a blue glowing lightsaber with a red core.
>>319814013
Is it bad that a dark man like me enjoys this comic?
>>319814252
That's a crossdresser, you retard.
Trans is someone who's operated to be more in line with the genre they identify as.
So I don't care how much you look, sound, dress and act like a girl, you won't be "trans" until you get a doctor to mangle your penis into a fake vagina.
>>319814301
They told him to make it more "adult" because they wanted to compete with stuff like South Park.
>>319813941
They removed something that's iconic to the character, think about that for a second.
>>319813819
Shows how much you know faggot.
APC is basically what happens when the creator is free to regurgitate any bullshit he wants without having an editor.
Turns out, editors are actually pretty fucking important.
>>319814329
hey man, to each their own, lightsabers are cool and that's all I need
>>319814428
What's it like being wrong?
>>319814350
Rapists enjoy rape.
I'm not saying that you ARE a rapist, just that you enjoy something, much like rapists.
>>319807690
Why didn't the thread end here?
>>319814558
The way you feel right now?
>>319807192
>openly trans character
stopped reading there, just posting to let OP know, bye.
>>319812667
The majority doesn't care.
>level in a game reveals the backstory of one of the key races in the game, is compulsory to the EXP curve, introduces new mechanics, and has the most unique sprite work in the game
>gets cut out from the steam version because SJWs might get butthurt, and tumblr is clearly more important than the established fanbase
>bringing it up in the IRC, making a post about it, or asking when it'll get replaced and un-fuck the EXP curve gets you banned
>>319813965
That's wrong though
>>319807516
Every mika slap thread has had 400+ replies. Clearly some people are upset about this issue.
>>319807192
>Vivian
>Trans
A lack of gender is not the same as having multiple genders
Being a blob of shadow Vivan has no sexual characteristics. She chooses to be female, and alters her appearance to reflect that.
>>319807192
>"We want to sell more copies"
>Are they right?
Yes
What kind of question is that?
>>319814707
The majority doesn't care about most things, what is your point? Should we not have STALKER threads because most people on this board probably haven't played them?
>>319813216
>correcting people who are perpetuating incorrect information makes you insecure
nice conclusion anon
>>319814453
Again, John had control of the writing and art.
All the studio did was let him loose.
If it keeps trans people out of videogames im ok with it.since when did localization become censorship? is this some new epic meme?
>>319814746
what game?
I'm genuinely curious
>>319815091
>Vivian
>trans
Read the thread.
>>319813705
> It's about as much censorship and having your first draft being edited is censorship.
Editing your first draft is still censorship. That doesn't mean that it is good or bad you fuck. The only distinction is editing out something you think would be 'unacceptable' or 'objectionable'. That's literally the definition.
>>319814469
They changed the camera angle so it's not in your face faggot.
It's not like they actually removed it.
>>319815105
Tales of Maj'Eyal
http://te4.org/wiki/Orc_breeding_pits
http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=40857
>>319815091
localization becomes censorship when they remove certain aspects or change certain parts of the game just to avoid backlash from a group of people that aren't even your target demographic
>>319814453
Have you seen Ren and Stimpy?
Nick was the only thing that actually kept it from going full on adult swim tier back when it was on the air.
APC is what happens when you let run rampent.
>>319815091
>new epic meme
Can you even talk normal anymore or do all your posts just rely on 4chan maymays.
>>319814864
Its reactions. Its the only thing you people care about.
You go on utube, FB, twitter, reddit all just to see how other people react. Then you go on /v/ just to make other people react, get a rise out of others by shit posting.
Don't pretend this is a real issue that people care about. They care about the reactions from other people not mika's fucking ass or the videogame itself.
>>319815171
She is though, the only people saying otherwise are idiots who don't know what "trans" means.
A person transitions when they present themselves as the opposite sex and refer to themselves with opposite sex pronouns exclusively. You don't have to get sexual reassignment surgery to be considered trans. Some trans people never do because it's irreversible and really easy to fuck up.
>>319815171
>crossdresser
same mental disorder.
>>319815330
>Editing your first draft is still censorship.
I don't own a reaction image that quantifies the level of disgust I feel for you right now.
No seriously, you win, I'm mad, congratulations, you win the internet.
You've officially topped the list of faggotry I've encountered on 4chan, you even beat out /co/ and /r9k/.
I hope you're proud.
>inb4 "shut up reddit/tumblr/shill/etc.
>>319807192
I don't see what the problem is here.
>We decided to remove that because we want the biggest possible number of people to play
Yeah corps self-censor when they believe it'll increase their profits. This is a positive thing because the alternative is corps being forced to censor themselves by the government or some other body. This is commercial art and it's the corps goal to make as much fucking money as possible AS GOD INTENDED.
Also getting input and changing your art based off of it is something every successful artist has done for the entire history of art commercial or not. If you sincerely believe an artist shouldn't change their work based on people's reactions than you must believe Spike Ren & Stimpy was better than Nickelodeon.
>>319813965
Let us accept that your gender is determined by what genitals. With this in mind every vet that loses his gents in the war is no longer a man. If you were to lose the lower half of your body in a horrific car crash you would prefer to be referred to as the gender neutral pronoun xer
>>319814864
Nigga, there's daily threads about things /v/ hates that reaches 500+ replies because fags keep replying and mods are too lazy to do anything about it.
It's as much an issue as undertale threads.
>these threads
>>319815610
Most of the shit posters are the ones that are falsely supporting censorship tho. I think theres plenty of people that don't like the lazy attempts to cover up the characters, and would prefere they revert them to how they were presented before.
>>319816017
"Removing objectionable content" is censorship. That's literally the definition. We censor ourselves all the time, what's the problem?
>>319816140
So you'd be fine if people removed Mr. Gold & Silver from God Hand because people are offended by black people and homos?
>>319816140
Doesn't effect gameplayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
fuck offfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
>>319812093
If the slap was removed, that means it was there before. And it is, in the Japanese version of the finished game.
The developer explicitly did that because he thought the slap would be "controversial" in other countries, i.e. he was bullied into it, by a radical group that can make or break his reputation through journalism but is not part of his consumer base.
No one who buys the game would be offended by the slap. No one was on the fence about it until the removal of the slap convinced them to buy it.
We are not asking for sexual innuendo to be inserted into games that weren't planned to have it. All we want is to quit pressuring developers to cut content they already made. By the dictionary definition, yes, it was his choice, that doesn't mean it wasn't extortion.
>>319813705
> But according to you fucks, that'd be labeled as "self-censorship."
You sound like the one who wants to define censorship to suit your own purpose.
Like, you want to say it is only censorship if it has a negative connotation, if it goes against public interests, if it suppresses free speech, etc.
While you should care about those distinctions more than whether or not something is objectionable, that's not what the word means.
>>319816924
gore gets removed in austrailia games
swastikas removed in german games
tits removed in american games
i dont see the problem
>>319816924
>The developer explicitly did that because he thought the slap would be "controversial" in other countries, i.e. he was bullied into it, by a radical group that can make or break his reputation through journalism but is not part of his consumer base.
How the fuck do you go from this
>The developer explicitly did that because he thought the slap would be "controversial" in other countries,
To this,
>i.e. he was bullied into it, by a radical group that can make or break his reputation through journalism but is not part of his consumer base.
Shut the fuck up, bro.
>>319817231
So I should be allowed to shoot you because other people shoot other people too.
>>319817569
u shit @ analogies
>>319817231
those are all massive problems you mong
>>319817231
Those things are all bad too.
Censorship should be shamed, precisely because it will only get worse the more you think it's normal.
>>319817231
>>319817491
>>319816472
>what's the problem?
Honestly, the problem is that you fags keep pulling out all these examples of "censorship" from your bleeding vaginas just so you could keep the hate train going.
If they change because of outside sources it's censorship.
If they change something of their own volition, it's self-censorship.
If they decide not to localize something and the original is available without any censorship, you'll still piss yourselves and cry because they're not localizing it, even when there's still an import copy with an english translation.
It doesn't matter if it's something as minute as a costume change or altering a model or some shit, you'll still cry because "I'M NOT PAYING THE SAME PRICE FOR MARGINALLY LESS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!" even though the gameplay is intact and the costume was just one of several risque costumes that still made it to release.
And you'll spam the same shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and for what?
You honestly think people like being talked down to because some weeb game got a few costumes removed and most don't give a shit?
Not to mention how you'll accuse people of being the perceived enemy just because they disagree with you.
This shit about how editting itself is now a form of censorship, that's the straw that broke the camel's back.
At this point, you fags might as well remove the back-space/delete button if you're honestly against censorship to this level, especially since you're all soooooooooooooo keen on being against censorship, no matter the severity.
Eat a dick, I hope every game you love gets censored just so you can experience what true censorship really is.
TL;DR: The problem is with you and people like you spamming this shit and calling everything censorship, go fuck yourself.
>>319807690
>>319813492
W-which one is it?
>>319807192
>some people are put in jail but not others.
>if you support jailing one kind of person but not the other you are a HIPPOCRATES
Fucking retard.
Why are people so unwilling to accept vivian's sex (as depicted in the non-English versions)? Is it sexual insecurity?
>>319807192
That assumes sjw give a shit about censorship as a whole. They only care about getting their way.
They would openly say censorship is fine only if it benefits sjw agenda. That's how fucking stupid they are.
>>319807192
No.
One is changing the entire gender of a character, a MAJOR change.
One is just sexual pandering.
However, I'm not defending either, fuck that shit it's just a booty clap
>not learning Japanese and playing uncensored japan ports
your loss
>>319813492
>BECAUSE HE DESIRES TO BE A GIRL
This is what a trans is, you're talking like trans become girls.
Traps are femenine boys or trannies that actually pass for women so they're a "trap".
Ugly trans are not traps because they're fucking ugly and not feminine at all.
>>319818596
『ビビアン』よ カゲ三人組の一人で いちばん下の妹 ・・・じゃなくて 弟ね
"That's Vivian. Of the shadow group, she's the youngest sister... er, brother."
You're only trans if you've been diagnosed with gender dysphoria from a doctor.
>being anti-censorship is popular now among reddit, so now /v/ hates it
End this fucking meme
I swear to fucking god /v/
>>319819078
So I decided to use Google Translator on that line.
>I brother 's not my sister ... the bottom in one of the "Vivian" good shadow threesome
>>319816924
>>319812093
capcom usa is making the game and the decisions capcom usa is filled with young twenty somethings, they are not sjws but they do know a few
>>319813965
Thats completely fucking wrong though you mongoloid
>>319813886
No, they're saying that if a dude asks to be treated as a girl, he should be treated as a girl, and no one is obligated o find him attractive.
Are you attracted to every single girl? No, and neither is any other heterosexual man
>>319807690
It sounds more like Vivian's the equivalent of a drag queen laughingstock. Not some kind of "progressive" SJW character, but rather an open mockery or clownish depiction of drag queens/traps that was probably edited for potentially being offensive.
I find this pic hilarious because other thing have been censored in paper Mario
"If you decide to talk about one but not the other you are a hypocrite" be says while doing the same thing
>>319816413
seriously the threads would get like 50 posts if it weren't for shitposters defending censorship just to be contrary. for every one poster that's legitimately upset about the issue you have 5 calling him a loser pedo faggot for caring and 5 more screaming "gatorgate get out!!11" for people who supposedly don't care about the issue they sure put a lot of effort into telling the people who do care that they're wrong.
>>319819802
It says willing to defend, not talk about. Otherwise it'd create an unwinnable situation where you have to mention every instance of censorship from all human history to not be a hypocrite.
>>319820453
But in this case it's the same fucking game
Vivian having a penis only makes me harder.
>>319812850
When I was younger, me and my siblings used to watch this movie on our annual trip while we were in the car. I've probably seen it over 20 times in my life.
>>319807192
No.
>>319807192
There's a qualitative difference in that SFV has not released yet. I guess you could call it self-censorship perhaps.
When a localizer removes/changes content, I think that's a bit worse.
>>319808327
Quick, everybody call me a nigger so I can make my skin darker!
I just want a deep whiff of R. Mika's hot sweaty asshole.
>/v/ will literally become politically correct trans fags just to try and spite SJW's
I mean goddamn, how scared of skeletons are you?
Vivian isn't trans or a trap you fucking brainwashed PC normies.
>>319822413
Nigger I read translate Japanese. Do you? Or do you just believe whatever some tripfag on the internet tells you the translation is?
>>319822520
If you're so awesome then disprove him.
>>319822709
Not him but if you don't know nipponese you wouldn't know anyway who's telling the truth
>>319808092
>>319819078
>can't comprehend Mario's lore
It's part of the joke. Goombella's tone indicates that the sisters' insult confused her. Male shadow sirens don't exist
>>319822968
You may not be him but that's a lame excuse all the same.
>>319822520
Pretty sure that translation is from whatever wiki anyway, but I can vouch for its validity. Not that you're going to trust anyone. You'll just keep telling everyone Vivian can't be male because feelings.
>>319818420
See, I think you get the point. Go ahead and quote all those hyperbolic complaints you quoted and call those people out for being hyperbolic.
But, like, when you encounter those arguments you don't dismiss them by saying "it's not censorship". That word has a meaning that does not depend on any specific "negative" or "dangerous" connotation.
>>319822991
>I didn't masturbate to a tranny...! I DIDN"T MASTURBATE TO A TRANNYYYY I'M NOT GAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
This is literally you right now
>>319810468
>Buy the censored games anyway goyim, the localisation team are the real victims if you boycott!
Nice try, but they're not victims when those localisation teams are full of SJWs who are censoring shit on their own initiative.
Would have could have but didn't
Still I want the ass slap back. It's fucking retarded.
Can we stop having this discussion? The majority of gamers find the ass-slap offensive and Capcom wants to appeal to them so they can stay in business. You forcing your beliefs on others for the sake of fanservice is not going to win anyone over.
>>319807192
No, because top is actually far worse.
>>319823448
I'm literally a line of false strawman that you wrote as a joke? Sucks to be me
>masturbating to any Mario character other than Toadette
>>319823272
>That word has a meaning
Lots of memes had meaning before they lost it from being repeated over and over again.
Remember "epic?"
What about "toxic?"
Maybe you recall "nostalgia," "indie," and "kek."
All words that became memes and have basically been used to describe shit that /v/irgins don't like, which is damn near everything.
>>319819802
He doesn't say that, he shows one example of anti-sex censorship and one example of anti-trans censorship
this causes conflicting feelings in internet activists
>>319822991
And the title screen that straight up says Vivian looks like a girl but is actually a boy? Meanwhile there isn't a single line in the game saying Vivian's female.
>>319823541
>The majority of gamers find the ass-slap offensive
>>319823804
I like how birdo hasn't been brought up yet
>>319823837
Not him, but I agree even if he is a dumb tripfag
>>319823804
There are many, did you even play the game in Japanese as I have?
>>319824005
Yes I did. Point to one of those.
>>319823731
Heh, true. From that point of view, yeah sure reacting over the word censorship is more understandable. Outside of 4chan culture though, I think it's more important to be concerned with what censorship actually means. Instead of saying something incredibly vague like "but it's not censorship" people would be far better off saying what they specifically mean.
The only reason you nerds care about this is because it's some waifu shit. Your arguments might bear more weight if they ever come up for anything other than some weebtrash getting her tits covered or something equally stupid.
>>319824003
The hell are you doing son?
>>319824003
So women shouldn't have the right to slap their semi-bare asses?
>>319824216
>weebtrash
>waifu
You definitely seem like someone worth listening to.
>>319824420
Did I trigger you?
>>319819802
Why should be bring up another form of censorship in that game, when the one he listed is sufficient?
>>319824613
No, I'm just pointing out you're clearly bias and semi-retarded.
>>319821575
Finally, someone gets it.
>>319809234
>male character dresses like a woman
>lives as a woman
>wants to become a woman
>hurrr its not a trannieeeeereeeeee!!!
Traps are trannies you downlow fags.
>>319825012
When people's opinions determine what content makes it into a game that hundreds of thousands of people will play, and those opinions are pretty clearly in the service of a larger political agenda, it's not enough to just say "well that's just your opinion man" and leave it at that. By definition, conflicting opinions are going to bump into each other. The only choice is to have a debate where we either compromise, or one opinion wins and the other loses.
>>319815330
>>Editing your first draft is still censorship
So the only uncensored works of art are stream of consciousness poetry, improv, jazz and jam bands?
>>319824205
The problem I have with this is that according to all the variants and definitions being thrown around, even doing something as simply as correcting a spelling mistake is a form of censorship.
It gets pretty fucking ridiculous when you stop and think how hypocritical it is to say you don't support censorship in any capacity but then broaden the definition so that everything under the sun, in regards to creative expression, is a form of censorship in some way, shape, or form.
It's like how nowadays, media is coming up with new ways people can get cancer. It's a life threatening ailment that affects many people and all but after a while, you start to become apathetic to the whole thing because it got to the point where it'd be easier to list things that won't give you cancer.
>>319824295
Real woman != Virtual woman
That's some tumblr-tier delusion you just spouted anon, I'd be careful.
