This scene gave me chills...
I WAS BORN IN A SMALL VILLAGE
>>319774475
>I was born in a small village
what did he mean by this?
That scene was the worst speech Kojima's ever written
>>319774475
Worst scene in game history
>>319774475
Same
With Ocelot and some diamond dog troops around, it would've been fairly easy for Snake to jump out and kidnap Skullface, while his men provide cover/escape.
>>319774475
>mfw I realised you could look at your idroid during this shit
>>319774475
but thats not kaz when he is giving judgement to to huey with the whole of diamond dogs demanding blood or when they finally kill skullface
Chills? It just left me cold.
>>319774475
What Yojimbo should have done is making it an actual cutscene, BUT WE COULDN'T HAVE THAT or else every autistic shitneck on the internet would cry a river of asshurt over
>muh MGS movies, where the gameplay at, Kojima failed movie director
So instead we got 10 minutes of cringey, awkward dialog.
Well thanks for your contribution on making the last installment in the series a little bit worse, you fucks
Worst MGS scene with the 2 worst MGS characters in the worst MGS game
Ironic-meme tier moment
>>319774475
>>319776541
>two worst MGS characters
For as goddamn awful Medic and Skullface are, they aren't as bad as Naomi or Rose.
>>319776541
>Venom
>worst MGS character
Nah, fuck you.
He might not have been the character we wanted, and he might not have been given enough dialogue, but he was a good character.
Had decent developement, subtle differences to Naked Snake in how they would handle situations, and delivered some of the best and most memorable lines in the series.
Venom Snake was great, it's just a shame the game felt unfinished.
>>319775391
God, Robin Atkin Downes did such a fucking great job. Damn shame the game was shit.
>>319774475
>epic
As much as I hate DSP I was laughing my ass off when he got to this bit.
>>319777381
>medic
>development
>memorable lines
No, anon, don't. Come on, man.
does someone have like a copypasta of skullface's speech ?
>>319777403
Agreed. Literally the only good VA in the game.
>>319776334
More likely they ran out of budget or something. No one complained about Ground Zeroes' jeep scene. It's hard to think that and TPP's jeep scene are even directed by the same people.
>>319777573
>I won't scatter your sorrow speech
>when the time comes, I'll pull the trigger
>not memorable lines
>shooting up the containment staff
>Paz hallucinations
>loving Quiet
>losing Quiet
>sparing Huey
>raising moral
>these somehow don't count as development because the game wasn't as good as it could have been
Go away.
>>319777074
>Naomi and Rose
>shit
I bet you hated MGS2 as well, fucking pleb.
>>319775391
THIS IS THE ENEMY
>>319777381
>but he was a good character.
>decent developement, subtle differences to Naked Snake in how they would handle situations
He is literally a player self insert with no personality or history of his own apart from mentioned being one of the "best of MSF" because the player played through Big Boss' legacy. Everything he is is just a copy of Big Boss' personality and a way of delivering the game's shallow "YOU, the player made this series possible :D" message.
>Speech is over
>WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA HOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>Snake is just staring at Skully
What the fuck man.
>>319778140
>Defending Naomi, Rose and MGS2
Maximum shit taste
>>319774475
>climatic moments
I dunno, I think that eerie calm before a big storm can be both relaxing and anxious as fuck at the same time. Like, I could kick back on my deck and watch the clouds roll in, while I'm also thinking about all the trees that could get blown over and crush me in my house.
>>319778296
Kill yourself you shallow child
>>319778035
>comparing any of those to
>Mmm, tasty.
get out
>>319778402
He has a point about Naomi. Fuck that bitch.
>tfw the trailers were better than the actual game
What do I call this feeling?
>>319778035
>when the time comes, I'll pull the trigger
That's a super cliché line, however, I will admit, the "I won't scatter your sorrow" speech was pretty great. Besides that, there was no character development, nor any other memorable lines.
>>319778152
>literally a player self insert
but anoni'm a grill
>>319778564
It's called give up all hope for anything good in video games ever again.
>>319778681
Then let Venom insert into you.
>>319778564
Phantom Hype.
>>319778140
No, actually MGS2 is my favorite game in the series. However, Rose was goddamn obnoxious in MGS2, and Naomi was just awful in MGS4. She was a goddamn drama queen and she just wouldn't die.
>>319778656
>That's a super cliché line
Doesn't matter, it's the context of the scene, and it works well.
Besides, Metal Gear is a game born from movie clichés, it's the whole purpose of its being.
>ignoring the rest of my post
Just because you don't like the game doesn't mean those points aren't development.
>>319778828
I was mad, because in the trailers that monologue was cool
>>319778564
I still go back to those trailers and get hyped over it. It helps me forget about how much of a piece of shit it turned out to be.
>STANDING
>>319778828
>>319779121
>Anger is an acid that can do more harm in the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.
I guess Mark Twain's quote was used to descrive Kaz?
>>319778975
Clichés aren't necessarily bad, if used in the right way they can be really charming like in the rest of Metal Gear. However, it just didn't feel like it worked in MGS5, especially with as serious the game was and as serious an actor Kiefer Sutherland was.
And, I didn't ignore the rest of your post. He may have had some character development, but it felt piss fucking poor for the most part.
>>319774475
Did you need to pee or something?
>>319779121
Isn't it weird how much better
>I was born in a small village. I was still a child when we were raided by soldiers. Foreign soldiers. Torn from my elders, I was made to speak there language.
sounds in the trailer?
>>319774585
>implying Kojima wrote it.
Shit was 100% Hideo.
This game was done since 2013 wasn't it?
>>319777681
No, Christopher Randolph and James Horan are also great.
>>319779531
Or maybe it was just Kojima lying about "Big Boss" turning into a demon.
I will never get over the retconning of a twenty eight year old game.
So are there any anon's here posting from hell after killing themselves because of MGSV?
>venom just sitting there and saying ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING
>>319779781
Okay, I can agree with Christopher Randolph, since he's been doing a great job since MGS1, but seriously? Skullface? He's as awful as Code Talker.
>>319779531
This pissed me off so much because, inferring from that quote alone, I thought we were going to see a Kaz and Big Boss who were so fucking consumed by revenge that they couldn't think straight anymore while everything else they rebuilt went to shit.
Instead we get a guy who saves children and gives them an education, saves a puppy, spares a woman who tried to kill him, etc...
It's a bad direction.
>>319778828
Every night, I can feel my gameplay... And my hype... even my plot... The content I've lost... the cutscenes I've lost... won't stop hurting... It's like they're all still there. You feel it, too, don't you?
Hal had a hard life.
* It's the end.
>>319774475
This is the moment everyone realized the story was complete shit. Actually it was when code talker was introduced but this was pretty bad too.
>>319780197
>for a guy who hates language he sure talks a lot
>he'd probably just yell if I asked him to stop
>I wish I was back at Mother Base pretending that I'm not a failure at medicine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9JV0EvCkMI
>>319774475
Only fanboys and kojimadrones can love that piece of shit.
And by fanboys and kojimadrones I mean /mgg/ and reddit
>>319781215
I don't know man. A lot of big fans of the series hate MGSV.
>>319777491
Can you sauce video?
>>319780247
Well, we did get a revenge consumed Kaz, and he was the most interesting and absolute best character in the game. "Big Boss," on the other hand, well, we got fucked over.
I really get the feeling Kojijimojimbo was trying to pull another MGS2 by defying the expectations of the players and fans, but he did it in the shittiest way possible. Whereas he made no promises with MGS2 and simply went against what the fans were expecting, which was brilliant, he directly lied to all of the fans with MGS5. The game promised to show us Big Boss' transformation into a demon. And, that sure as fuck wasn't the case.
>>319780197
Just think about it, if Hayter Big Boss was sitting there, he might be asking a few questions, or taunting him, being a really charming character, but instead we got Kiefer Medic, who does a lot of nothing and has zero charm.
Thanks, Kojima.
>>319781574
You think so? Cause I'd say they're probably the minority.
>>319782273
>Hayter Big Boss
>Better than Kiefer Venom
>mwf
Venom Snake > Naked Snake
>>319783298
No, don't. Anon, no. No shitposting in the thread.
>>319782482
This game is terribly offensive if you give a shit about the MG story and lore. I feel like in order to like this game you must have shit taste + not caring much about the series.
>>319783524
You're damn right, it's offensive, but to me it seems like the Metal Gear fags are eating this shit up.
>>319783514
Naked Snake is autistic cry baby, who can't forget Boss and leaves his comrades behind
>>319783298
i don't know why the people in these threads act like hayter or sutherland wrote any of snake's dialoguedid he?
>>319783810
>can't forget the Boss
No shit, they were closer than mother and child.
>leaves his comrades behind
MGS5 isn't canon, the piece of shit was just tacked on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O84-lK5Kttw
>>319778812
Lol
>>319780216
>WOULDN'T YOU AGREEEEE
>>319784052HAIDARA
>>319774585
Wrong. It's fucking terrific in the right context. Sadly, they only got it right in the trailer. I'm still salty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJVxPAiB7as
>when the music kicked in while literally nothing was happening
I thought I was being trolled
>>319784304
They did the exact same thing in MGS3 with the ladder, but somehow they managed to make it the hypest shit.
>Fake military tech.
Does anyone know why this happened?
>>319784969
What do you mean, Anonthony?
>>319785093
Blackfoot
TT77
"Krokodil"
Renov
AM-MRS
UN-ARC
Fake guns and vehicles. Every MG game has had real tech with strangereal thrown in. V is all fake shit.
>>319784496
yeah but there's a difference between a car ride with the antagonist vs protagonist and just someone climbing up a fucking ladder
>>319780247
I dunno man, I felt like it delivered on that front. Mother Base during Peace Walker just FELT different, it felt like "awww yes I'm home with my bros" like I was part of this family and it's why Ground Zeroes hurt so fucking bad. Listening to Paz's diary tapes in Ground Zeroes just made it worse; Mother Base had such an effect of togetherness on others that it made an implanted sleeper agent want to turn on her superiors because she was finally happy. In Phantom Pain, it just never feels the same way. I'm never coming home to my bros to watch them having a karaoke night or a soccer match, I'mean just a commander coming back to base to wait for my next mission, with my soldiers simply doing what they're told. I feel out of place and remember something along the lines of this feeling more like a home than a military barracks, so I save a puppy, I forgive a killer and let her join, I forgive a traitor and let him stay. I'm trying to put something that I swear I had before back together, why doesn't my best friend feel the same way? Why is this home so fucking broken, and why can't I put it back together?? I'm BIG BOSS, I... oh. I'm not. That's why I can't. He's not even here. No wonder the Mother Base in TPP never felt like Mother Base; revenge made everything fall apart. Kaz displayed it in the way we all thought they would; he was angry and enraged. Snake displayed it in a way we weren't expecting but hurt just as bad: he left it all behind. The legendary Big Boss was broken in the sense that the one time he got it right, the one time I personally felt he understood The Boss' will the way she meant it to be understood, he had it taken in such a way that he didn't even try to get it back. Welcome to Outer Heaven.
Sorry about the textwall
>>319785431
Is there a difference, because to me it seems there's just as much nothing happening in both of those scenes.
>>319778035
This guy gets it
and also
>torturing Skullface
Is that something you could see BB doing? That honestly stood out to me as big difference between the two
>>319786794
Both of you niggas are in denial
>>319786341
Jesus anon, you really put yourself in Venom's shoes. I'm proud of you
>>319786747
fair point. the ladder scene still confuses me I don't really know what they were going for, it just stands out because it's weird and goofy
>>319787724
The ladder scene is, without a doubt, fucking awesome. I think the reason why it was so much better, besides just how super goofy it was, is because it's not the main character and primary antagonist awkwardly sitting, staring into each other's eyes for five minutes.
>>319785404
Licensing
>>319788061
How is it awesome?
All you're doing is climbing a ladder then the theme plays. It's a mild annoyance at best
>>319774475
Obligatory video:
https://youtu.be/31dsolM10ng
>>319788393
That huge budget and he couldn't spare for licenses on 80's tech? Most of it is slavshit that has no licensing anyway.
God dammit.
>>319788741
80m isn't that big of a budget for AAA, especially when you're making your own engine to boot
>>319788841
I forgot about FOX engine. 4 paid such good attention to the guns that going to V it was pretty disappointing.
>>319788470
It's awesome because of how ridiculous and silly it is. That's the case with a lot of MGS3. I guess it's also awesome because it let you think back on all the crazy shit you've gone through so far.
>>319784180
FOLLOW ME
>>319786341
You're pretty good
>>319790554
SET ME FREE
>>319780480
I'm gonna make Kojima give back our game.
>>319786341
Holy shit, how did you almost make me give a shit about MGS5?
>>319788741
Gotta save up on those Kojibucks as much as possible, yo.
>>319774475
I know someone that unironically said that exact phrase for that scene. I've never actually been furious at someone for their opinion before. It's a surreal feeling.
Thank god you can skip it on subsequent playthroughs
>>319778656
"Snake, what am I fighting for? What was she fighting for?? What are YOU fighting for!?"
Whole franchise is steeped in cliche' one liners. It's charming.
>>319786341
Shit anon.
You just made me realize why I hated the game so much. My mom was always angry and my dad left. I guess it just hit too close to home and I didn't even realize it. I wanted a peace walker mb but I lived in a phantom pain mb.
Thanks.
>>319791492
It's super charming in the other games, but in MGS5, it just felt kinda out of place.
>>319788470
It's an unexpected moment of reflection. It's some alone time, and some repettative action that sweeps in with the theme of the game when you're not expecting it.
The jeep scene wanted to go for that,but it wasn't reflecting back on the previous actions of the game, it wasn't alone, it was just really really....awkward.
How about instead you're locked into a path that you have to drive yourself, alone, with the skullface speech playing in your ear via codec. You'd have to drive past places you've been before in Afghanistan while the music plays.
The crescendo of the music being at a visual reveal of sahelanthropus or something. The pieces were there for the scene to be neat but it just fell apart hard in execution, and they didn't have time or.money to fix it.
Best part of the game was those tapes with Zero.
And that one tape with Skullface and Code Talker
>>319791856
Mostly because snake is so silent for a large portio of the game. All the other mgs games are hallways, which allows the devs to have more control on the pacing.
>>319788393
That is actually not true. There is an unspoken agreement between gun manufacturing companies and game studios that says to pay for licensing. But DICE hasn't pay any fees since Bad Company 2. They just don't give a fuck and there is no ground for legal action.
Kojima Productions is just full of morons.
>>319792267
why would the licensing laws be so relaxed for guns, but so strict everywhere else?
>>319792167
I can see what you mean, but it's really the only super cliché line from the game I can remember. It just sounded weird hearing something so cliché in a game so serious.
>>319784000
the trips confirm
/thread
>>319793845
Pretty much
>game is about venom going nuclear
>trailers about venom going nuclear
>sweetest motherfucker ever
>spares huey
>doesn't do anything remotely evil
This pissed me off so much.
>>319792713
The stance EA takes is that when a book makes mention of the word "Colt" there is no royalty or licensing fee. That this also applies to games. So when Bell Helicopter went to sue EA for the use of their products in Battlefront, they counter sued. EA claimed their use fell under the First Amendment, but both parties agreed to settle out of court. EA continues to use military products without a licence. For a company in Japan to not take advantage of this precedent and that fact they are not an American company and would have to be tried in a world court under international copyright laws. Japan is a member of the ICC unlike China, who are frequently abusing copyrights. However it would be extremely unlikely for any company to pursue legal action against Konami due to the lack of precedent and time it would take to resolve in the ICC. This works to their advantage by being a member, as much as it would by not being a member. The question would then be raised on whether Kojima Productions LA is an American company, even if it isn't based on geographical location.
BASICALLY YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT BUT KOJIMA IS STUPID.
>>319794331
dropped halfway through a sentence
>*For a company in Japan to not take advantage of this precedent and that fact they are not an American company and would have to be tried in a world court under international copyright laws is strange.
So fucking epic an end to an epic saga ;_;.
>>319786341
This anon got it right, and I think it applies to what you are talking about:
>>319794280
Venoms going nuclear because he's this cog in a breaking machine while he's under the illusion that he's more than what he is. That is so retardedly and mindbogglingly frustrating when you think about it for a minute; you expect yourself to be able to handle all this and bring everything back to the way it was yet youre not able to. Youre big boss yet you act like a soldier. The trailer shows what venom is probably feeling like on the inside while everything around him is falling to shit while he feels responsible for it
>>319794280
I feel like this must have been changed by executive meddling, because the game itself is fucking full of references to Snake becoming a demon and crossing some taboo moral boundary that he simply never does.
>>319786747
Are you retarded? Can't you even realize the dramatic wieght it exists when the protagonist and the antagonist are facing each other? The Snake Eater scene was an intermission, right after a boss fight, it made sense because it let the player breathe and rest from all the action.
>>319786341
This is autism, this is reddit.
>>319786341
Jesus Christ, MGSV apologists are fucking pathetic. None of what you describe is actually in the game.
Am I the only one who liked PW's Mother Base? >>319786341 summed up how I felt about it
it was better when nobody went nuclear
>>319774475
It gave me the yawns.
>>319796052
Are you retarded? There's nothing heavy about the protagonist and antagonist just passionately staring into each other's eyes.
