When did you realize that FF8 is objectively the best Final Fantasy?
When I first played it
>>319769919
this
fuck the haters the Junction System is fucking awesome and fun
>>319769919
This.It was my first
>>319769919
/thread
Only retards get confused by time travel plots and a junction system that comes with a tutorial
>>319769919
This tee bee hage family.
My son's mother played this while we dated years ago. She told me she really likes it.
First final fantasy game. The GF blew my little 10 year old mind away.
that's not ffix
>>319770457
What is the point of this post?
When I found out you could refine items into more spells.
the soundtrack to this game also makes it once of the best FF games https://youtu.be/lKSzDWqoHoA
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>>319770872
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqtGBR80NWw
This is my favorite sound track from the game
>Cast Hastega
>Cast Berserk on my strongest DPS
Literally how I defeated most bosses in the game. Ultimecia included. Why do people have problem with this game again?
>>319770998
>VIII
>Hastega
Dammnit i hope to god they remake this one too, with the tech today square has my permission to remake all there final fantasy games up to 10 with real time combat of course (fuck you I like stylish rpg combat suck it)
>Great music
>awesome cutscenes
>a cool, relatable protag with character development
>best summons in the series
>fun as fuck card game
>the game rewards you for playing the card game by making you a God
>cute waifus even though they're all pretty dumb except Xu
>combat is pretty quick
>different Renzokuken animations for different bosses, holy shit
>has Dad of the year, all years
>The action in this game takes very short breaks. You're always doing something cool throughout the game.
>There's some nice subtlety like how the only reason Seifer uses a Gunblade is because as a kid he watched Laguna in a movie using it and thought it was super cool. Shit like this isn't told to you but you can figure it out yourself.
>music so nice I list it twice
>>319769758
I think it was in 2004
>>319769919
My nigga. Played around 99-00, not too long after it came out. My friend lent it to me, and i fell in love, and have been in love ever since
>>319773005
>Dad of the year
Are you forgetting the part where he abandoned his family?
>>319773005
I wonder if normies are making retarded jokes when they learn there's a video game character named Selphie.
>>319769919
I fucking love this game
When it was the only Final Fantasy I had played.
>>319770568
it's called feces posting.
>>319769758
It was my first and I loved it.
>>319769758
When I first played it in 1999
>>319770872
I listen to it on a daily basis. Balamb garden soundtrack solid 10/10
>>319770253
I honestly hate it because of how easy it makes it to break the game as long as you're good at cards. Also taking out any incentive at all to level. It's great otherwise, just anything regarding combat is shit. Nice story even if it starts to not make sense by the end, great cast that interacts well with each other, best soundtrack in the series.
>>319769758
>FF6 exists
You argument is invalid
>>319769758
>didn't know that the enemies level scaled with you
>play like any FF, don't skip any random encounter, try to get a little level before a boss
>reach Adel boss
>fight against him for half an hour
>can't kill him
>drop the game
I was retarded back then, I have to replay it one day
>>319774060
Being good at cards is hard, so if you're good at it you're going to have a easy time playing the game. I think that is rewarding.
It was shit aside from the summon system and it was the prototype of the objectively worst game in the series.
![rinoa2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iuKPenF.jpg "rinoa2[1].jpg")
Rinoa was my first true waifu. Was around 15~ when it came out and I thought wow I would totally marry a girl like Rinoa. Used to dream about her and shit. Damn...
>>319774331
>him
What do you have against muscle Sorceress?
>>319769758
When I got the demo from Pizza Hut.
>>319774514
Why didn't they just launch her into deep space?
>>319774060
but pretty much every FF game is easily breakable except for the really limiting ones which you can break later on anyway
>>319774434
That sock-thing in her arms made me diamonds back in the day
>>319774434
So your first waifu is an annoying, dumb slut who tried to use protagonist to provoke her previous boyfriend?
>>319774416
>best combat in the series until the sequel came along
>the worst in series
Faggots like you need to fuck off.
FFVIII had the best setting of any game in the series, or at least tied with VII. I loved the ideas it had, and was mortified when FFIX went and undid all of it by going back to the dull-ass fantasy land. It also had some cool characters and plot segments, like Laguna, Laguna, and Laguna. It's just that VIII's story went to garbage tier after the orphanage revelation, and most of the characters were bland and disposable. The junction system made magic just another category of equips and using spells themselves was useless or a desperation move. Honestly, once you learned to game the system, all you needed was to spam Squall's normal attack and Renzokuken, and delegate the rest of the party to healing and spamming Aura on Squall. You didn't even need any grinding to do this, or bother with the stupid weapon upgrade system, as long as you figured out where to get Ultima and other top kek spells. I've never seen such an utterly broken combat mechanic in any other FF.
I sort of feel like replaying it for all the sweet memories of the first half of the game, but the final parts were just bullshit grinding with constantly worsening plot and a combat system that felt like it was never properly thought through.
>>319774434
She's super cute. I really like her design.
it's cool that people like it but in terms of writing its really awful (even by FF standards) and it's too easy to break the game and make it way easy
>>319769758
Everyone in this thread is just pretending, right?
Literally everything about this game aside from the music is pretty bad, and it's extremely revealing that most of the people posting in this thread say it was their first FF
>>319774804
It is easy, but it sounds like most people never understood how
>>319770998
>Final Fantasy VIII
>casting magic
>>319774801
jigglity jiggle...
>>319774416
god i remember when i first played FFX
i was so fucking disappointed after playing VII, VIII and IX i expected something fucking awesome from ps2, but instead we got that fucking shitshow.
who the fuck thought tidus was a good protagonist?
>>319769758
When the game was released on steam and reddit told me it was good.
>>319774926
Fuck off 7 babby
>>319774720
2cute4you m8
>>319774970
Hey now, Aura and Meltdown are acceptable
Quistis was my first waifu
![laguna4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6Cq0w7Q.jpg "laguna4[1].jpg")
>>319769758
you only played this game forhim, right?
FFX is prob the best FF series Ive played - no bait. Lulu's lulus.
>>319775234
lulu porn is the only good thing to come out of ffx
>>319773005
What Laguna movie!?!?
>>319774742
>FFVIII had the best setting of any game in the series
The setting was a hilarious clusterfuck of different poorly used themes, from 20th century aesthetics and military nations to high tech cities, magic, hilariously dumb concept of guardian forces (there's one trial cave for an entire balamb, do they have multiple copies of Ifrit? It it the Ifrit's breeding ground?). All elements were connected rather poorly and went to shit after second disc.
>>319774996
I've never played FF10 with japanese voices, is it more bearable?
>>319775327
The one where he gets raped by ruby dragons on the way to Esthar
FFVIII has better pre-rendered backgrounds than IX, mang.
>>319769758
It's not. It's one of the worst actually.
>>319769919
>>319770253
>>319770345
>>319770391
Stop replying to yourself.
>>319775458
>from 20th century aesthetics and military nations to high tech cities, magic, hilariously dumb concept of guardian forces
Literally every Final Fantasy: The post
>>319775632
Get butt flustered you ff7 fan fag
>>319775458
The only thing out of place was Esthar. Everything else fit perfectly into the world.
Also where in the game does it say that everyone in Balamb takes the same trial or got the same GF?
>>319775641
>every
Maybe you should actually play in something aside from FF8.
>>319775641
Not everyone
Take FFXIII for instance, it's all high tech
Except Pulse, but everyone's dead there
>>319775751
>Also where in the game does it say that everyone in Balamb takes the same trial or got the same GF?
Where the other caves then?
Do they have a cave for every student?
I liked the characters and that was about it.
>>319775458
>(there's one trial cave for an entire balamb, do they have multiple copies of Ifrit? It it the Ifrit's breeding ground?
Always wondered about that, but then everything else about Final Fantasy 8 happened and kind of stopped worrying about it because nothing made fucking sense, because fuck writing something coherent. That's probably why we got fucked up stories since then.
>>319769758
when i saw that the overworld models weren't chibis like in ff7
>>319769758
>Objectively
>No reasons as to why.
Typical. 8 is garbage. This meme where retards like you try to unironically defend it needs to die.
>>319775764
There's been weird mixtures of themes in FF since the snes. You fought robots and shit in IV and V even though they were very medieval fantasy themed.
After I played Final Fantasy IX and realized what a piece of shit ix was.
>>319776171
This doesn't make every FF any closer to the clusterfuck of a setting 8 had.
>>319776171
I'm sorry but if you fight robots at any point in time, that completely negates it from being medieval fantasy.
>>319775841
They got trains and boats to take them to other places.
>>319776376
Where are the caves in other places?
>>319775503
You can say anything about FF9 but it had the best prerendered backgrounds in series.
>>319776376
Gf's and most final fantasy summons are like ethereal spirits that are summoned when needed. They're literally just sharing stands. possibly able to form more than one in the world to attack.
>>319776529
Of course it did. It had like a third the locations to render as vii or viii did. That was probably the most disappointing world I've seen in a ps1 jrpg. At least from a bigger developer.
>>319776549
but that doesn't make sense in FF8's rules though, see the problem?
>>319769758
>play ff7
This is the greatest thing ever
>play ff8
This is the greatest thing ever
>play ff9
This is shit, I like ff8 better
>play ff10
This is ok, but I like ff8 better
>Play ff12
This is ok, but I like ff8 better
>Play ff13,13-2
This is complete shit. FF8 is still the best
>>319776747
>I like playing a game where it's easy
okay, we get it, you like games to hold your hand.
>>319769758
>VIII
>Best anything
Good joke, maybe the best at being shit and arguably one of the worst games in the series.
>Some of the shittiest writing ever and FF isn't really known for good writing.
>Shit MC
>The entire party is bland and boring.
>Shitty gameplay.
>Retard proof combat that's extremely easy to break.
>Failed to live up to it's predecessor in pretty much every conceivable way and set the series back.
VIII is when the series started going downhill.
>>319776267
You can't even explain how FF8 was a clusterfuck. Everything fits into place (except Esthar).
>>319776930
Are you taliking about FF7 or FF8?
>>319769758
Best Story
Best Characters
Best Music
Best Combat (junction system is great fuck you)
Looks fucking amazing
Best
Fucking
Game
>>319777067
8 because it's shit.
>>319776431
I don't know man. I don't live there. The map was designed to fit into a ps1 game. You can't take rpg maps too seriously because they lack the scale of an actual entire world. You can imagine that if the world were to actually exist there'd be much more to explore.
>>319777383
Oh, because you seemed like you were talking about 7
Which should I play over winter break, ff8 or ff10?
Srs, please leave your petty debate shit out of this
>>319777225
Wrong game, anon. He's talking about VIII.
>>319777225
Story was ok. But the main-character-plot-twist shit was getting stale by viii. dont get me wrong, it's awful in ix, x, and xii as well.
characters were fine.
Music was fucking god tier.
junction was ok, but like ix, the gameplay's too damn slow.
Looks alright. Backgrounds are great, models were butt ugly. Like ix got it right. i prefer vii's legos over viii's world models.
>>319776930
>retard proof combat
>implying it's not the easiest game to fuck yourself over in
>>319776930
>VIII is when the series started going downhill
>not the homosexual shit stain that was X
C'mon man, I bet you've never even played VIII
>>319769758
combat extremely broken and very early on you can autopilot your way through the rest of the battles in the game after the dollet communications towers
retarded ass time traveling plot that makes bioshock infinite look like it was written by Stephen hawking in comparison
soapy teenage angst in a boarding school
emo main character who doesn't care about anything until his "one true love" makes him realize his feelings for the world.
it had a great card game and that was it.
>>319777452
Why are you so butt hurt about 7. Not even my favorite but it's better than 8 in literally every way.
>>319777458
X, with the volume off.
the only people who say VIII is their favorite are nostalgia fags who didn't pick up a FF game until VIII.
>>319777782
Isn't that every final fantasy?
>>319777710
I don't care about your post, or the planet for that matter!
>>319777782
>literally every final fantasy fan
When will plebs realize that Tactics is the best?
>>319776939
>Everything fits into place
Except dumb as shit concept of guardian forces and para-magic which is never explained and used purely as a shitty, retarded, tasteless "we had a group amnesia" plot device.
Except the very existence of SeeDs, independent mercenaries messing with politics and not receiving any backlash from any countries for this.
Except absolutely empty overworld that fails to create even an illusion of life and which ain't even saved by the train system.
Except poorly attempts to throw in even some ancient civilizations which is never used for anything.
>>319769758
nope its still a tie between 6 and 7 with the next best games being 4 and 5
8 is at the bottom with 2 10 and 13
>>319769758
why is Squall even into Rinoa? and why is Rinoa into Squall?
think about it
>>319769758
When I first heard The Man With The Machine Gun
>>319770872
Fisherman's horizon is where it's at
>>319777605
>started going downhill
>started
>STARTED
all the shit that seemed cool in FFVII were overdone in VIII and made it a little worse. We had a brief respite with IX but Square Enix decided to go full ham on the worst shit afterwards.
>>319777782
i like it
then i only played VII and VIII and dropped IX halfway since it was so fucking shit
>try again with X
>HURR SEAGULS HURR
>drop it for weeks
>see my brother at some wedding
>ok nevermind i wont finish it
>>319777605
X had a better battle system
Actual equipment!
Sphere Grid was a lot better than whatever the fuck 8 was trying to do with it's junction system.
Characters in X actually have an identity while 8 everyone starts out being the exact same person only a different limit break.
story in X maybe batshit insane, but it's a lot better than 8s time travel "we were all orphans" nonsense.
8 was broken with pathetic exploits with the GF pathetic.
Lulu and Auron
Durr, unexpected FFVI fag here. Literally, to me it's all about VI, IX, and most of XII (because it was the shit up until obvious creative director left)
>>319777918
>Except dumb as shit concept of guardian forces and para-magic which is never explained and used purely as a shitty, retarded, tasteless "we had a group amnesia" plot device.
They're just magic spirits that allow people to use magic.
How is that dumb.
It would be even dumber if any regular person could use magic from the get go.
>Except the very existence of SeeDs, independent mercenaries messing with politics and not receiving any backlash from any countries for this.
Are you unironically saying that the concept of mercenaries is dumb? Because they have existed and employed by countries all throughout history.
>Except absolutely empty overworld that fails to create even an illusion of life and which ain't even saved by the train system.
Technical limitations
>Except poorly attempts to throw in even some ancient civilizations which is never used for anything.
What?
>>319777593
It's easy as fuck and impossible to fuck yourself over unless you're dumb. One of the easiest FF's.
>>319777605
X isn't all that great either but it's better than VIII.
>>319778105
>a lot better than 8s time travel
>using machines makes a big monster appear who is also my dad
>>319775458
I'm pretty sure you just gotta make a pact with the gf and can summon him. Like, one creature could make pacts with multiple people
When I hadn't played ff7 before.
>>319774737
WAHAHAHA BEST COMBAT BRO WHAT FUCKING JOINT ARE U SMOKING THIS SHITS THE MOST RETARDED COMBAT IVE EVER SEEN ALL YOU FUCKING DO IS SWITCH OUT HARD COUNTERS TO ONE SHOT MONSTERS ITS BORING AS FUCK THE WHOLE SPHERE SYSTEM IS A JOKE
>>319777782
My first was IV
IV, IX, VI, VIII, VII, and X is the order I played those in. My favorite is still VIII even though I know it's not the best.
it had my favourite summoning and limit break systems in the series
>>319778401
Just means you have good taste and don't buy into meme hype
>>319777923
This nigga gets it.
>>319778032
I still disagree with all the praise ix gets. It has a lot of what people hate about modern final fantasy in spades.
Tiny, ultra-linear planet.
Lack of interesting sidequests.
Boring gameplay.
Grimdark, 2deep4u story. No, making the rat lady and her species tragedy lightning rods doesnt make the rest of ix "light hearted and adventurous"
Stupid plot twist the blows the main character's mind
I could go on. Frankly I think IX only gets a pass because it was made by sakaguchi and was "medival" even though it's ps1 final fantasy through and through past the surface level.
>>319777918
>Except dumb as shit concept of guardian forces and para-magic which is never explained
Guardian Forces are energy beings and para-magic was developed based on the study of naturally occurring sorceress powers.
>Except the very existence of SeeDs, independent mercenaries messing with politics and not receiving any backlash from any countries for this.
They haven't been in existence for long, everybody finds them useful because of their neutrality, and they receive backlash in THE FUCKING GAME ITSELF.
>Except absolutely empty overworld that fails to create even an illusion of life and which ain't even saved by the train system.
As opposed to any other PSX overworld?
>Except poorly attempts to throw in even some ancient civilizations which is never used for anything
Except that it explains the historical background to current political situation, Lunatic Pandora, sorceresses and a ton of other things.
TL;DR: You didn't play the game or you're genuinely retarded.
>>31977469
The arm thing was the only thing I didn't like about her design. Otherwise, loved everything else.
>>319778541
>As opposed to any other PSX overworld?
FF8 is by far the least detailed overworld of all psx FF.
>>319774653
Name a FF game that is half as broken as VIII, every part of VIII breaks the game in some terribly unfun way
>Junction
deal with a bunch of menu bullshit every time you are forced to change your party, get magic from cards and junction to stats and everything is easy mode
>scaling monster levels
a perfect scaling system would mean levels are a worthless system that could be trimmed out, a bad scaling system means that levels are good (thus changing nothing) or levels are bad (enemies scale faster) VIII was a badly balanced system such that leveling up was bad.
>GF summoning
long as fuck animations with no reason not to spam that also became better as you spammed them
>draw magic
sit and draw up to 99 is boring as fuck unless you know how to get spells from cards and then you break the game.
>limits
get to "low" health (not really that low because you junctioned 99 spells to health)
spam cancel
free limits
>>319778725
>he didn't play ffvii
>>319778537
Still better than 8 or 10
>>319769758
I like the part where the story doesn't go anywhere.
>le 8 is good meme
>>319776747
>ff9 shit
literally faggot the person
>>319778209
I'm not even the person you're talking to, and your replies are absolutely sad.
>magic spirits that allow people to use magic. How is that dumb?
it's dumb because it doesn't actually explain anything. Edea is called a witch, everyone else who uses magic are not called a witch....which means there are people who DO possess the ability to use magic.
How do you run out of a specific spell like it's ammo?
Why can't my Zell use ifrit if it's equipped to squall? Does that mean no one else in the world who once bonded to ifrit can't use him?
How many Ifrits are there in the world? How can anyone be a SeeD if there's only literally a handful of GF?
How the fuck does putting spells on a person make their stats better like it's armor?
If everyone just has to defeat a GF, why doesn't everyone just fight them at once and have access to him? That way there are no trails since there's no established rules about that shit.
I'm not even going to bother with your other replies since you're clearly fucking stupid, all other games in that time was able to be immersive despite technical limitations.
and if you don't know what ancient race they were talking about, did you even play FF8?
>>319778858
X had better combat and viii had better music and a much bigger world.
>>319778337
still better than time traveling nonsense, it's fitting the son would kill the very person he hates.
>>319778803
FVII had way more locations and actually felt like a world.
>>319778957
>I can't separate gameplay from lore: the post
You're fucking retarded.
>>319778725
>Thinks it's more detailed than FF7
Good one anon, I'll be sure to tell my friend's that joke.
>>319778997
but were still worse games.
>viii had a much bigger world
did it? every town looked pretty much the same and just sortof blended together.
>>319778725
Is this a fucking joke?
>>319779035
>time travel is nonsense because i can't understand it
ff10's plot is literally "what" tier
>>319779082
Why would I have to separate it? The gameplay is effected by the rules that is established within it's lore.
How are you not grasping this?
>You're fucking retarded
Shouldn't you be at school?
>>319779065
Nah
>>319769758
When I realized I haven't played 4, 5, 6, 7, 10 or 12.
>>319779209
>Time travel makes sense
By all means, explain. I can't wait to hear this shit.
>>319779150
We could argue quality all day. Ultimately it's just an opinion. I thought a lot of ff8's places were really cool. The amazing ost helped out a lot. And what 9 did have was really great as well. My point is that 9 had jack shit compared to 7 and 8. what little amount of towns and locations the game started with, half got destroyed or blocked off by the end of the game. ff9 was style over substance. all it had was it's story and it's atmosphere.
>>319778541
>Guardian Forces are energy beings
Which are bound to one person and can't be used by anyone else in meantime.
>They haven't been in existence for long
10-15 years is more than enough to piss some trigger-happy government multiple times.
>>319778725
This. It astounds me when people actually defend 8's shitty overworld. Going from 8 and then to 7 felt like such an improvement.
>>319779309
Because the thought that you can make a gameplay that perfectly fits the lore of the world, moreso in the PSX era is idealistic and naive.
Gameplay concessions are inherent to videogames, following your logic every single FF game is shit because for some uspecified reasons they fight in a turn-based way.
In truth, there's nowhere in the game that says that GF are bound to one person, it just happens that you can only junction one GF to one character because that way you have to organize yourself and not just put every GF you have together with every character you have.
>>319779573
>Ultimately it's just an opinion.
Except my opinion is shared by the vast majority of the FF playing population and yours is hipster bullshit.
>>319769758
Around the time mgsv chapter 3 came out.
>>319779791
>moreso in the PSX era is idealistic and naive
oh spare me the "limitations" bullshit, if they wanted to flesh out the details to make sense to what they were trying to say in terms of story they could of easily done that.
>following your logic every single FF game is shit because for some uspecified reasons they fight in a turn-based way.
That's not my logic at all though, that's something else entirely.
>In truth, there's nowhere in the game that says that GF are bound to one person
Then why don't we see anyone else using the same GF I have? Oh wait, because that'd make sense right? There was nothing stopping them from making eccentric characters capable of summoning GF like the main characters if that was the case, you're making excuses.
>>319779783
8 has virtually no side quests of value which compounds the problem, on top of being largely railroaded throughout the game. Still love 8 tho.
>>319779969
So instead of a discussion, you just want to resort to pissy name calling. People like you are what's wrong with the internet. Does every opinion you have fall in line with "the majority" or are you too stupid to come up with a decent response? Seems to me like the latter.
>>319779969
Vast majority also voted for obama, so, yeah.You're not really helping your case here with that logic.
This game somehow managed to look worse than FFVII despite being more technically impressive because everything is so bland and boring. The overworld is flat out the worst I've ever had the displeasure to navigate in any JRPG on any console.
Coincidentally it is the only FF game from I through X that I have not beaten. It just bores me to tears. And I don't even mind the junction system and the grind. Where does it get good?
>>319769758
I love Final Fantasy 8, sometimes with my penis.
But objectively it had some problems.
I feel 8 and 9 are about equal even though I got more out of 9 story than I did 8.
7's a bit higher than 8.
10 was decent, even if Titus was fucking annoying and the story was generally kind of stupid.
12 was bad. Bad enough that I got halfway through it and just couldn't finish it.
and 13 and its sequels are a goddamn travesty.
Talk shit about any final fantasy you want, at least the majority of them are close in quality with the exception of 13 and 3.
>>319779309
>Is objectively wrong and retarded
>"Shouldn't you be at school?" comeback used like a gradeschooler would
>Spells it " effected " like someone who didn't go to school
Shouldn't you go back to school?
>>319780207
>oh spare me the "limitations" bullshit, if they wanted to flesh out the details to make sense to what they were trying to say in terms of story they could of easily done that.
I'm not talking about the story, i'm talking about why you couldn't junction your GF to more than one character at the same time, and that has jack to do with lore, but with gameplay.
>That's not my logic at all though, that's something else entirely.
Oh but it is, the reason for ATB combat is because it's a gameplay decision that has absolutely no relevance regarding lore or story, the same as GF management.
>Then why don't we see anyone else using the same GF I have?
You don't even see anyone else using GFs except Ultimecia, even though the universe explicitly tells you that anyone can make a pact with a GF.
>>319780301
>Voting for Mitt "we can balance the budget while increasing military spending!" Romney
An 8 year old autist could run the country better than the alternatives to Obama, and Obama was actually more qualified than an 8 year old autist.
>>319780447
By the end of Disc 2.
Then it stops being good.
>>319780447
If you dont like Squall or find him interesting then the game never gets good. Period.
>>319779791
You're reading comprehension is lacking, shouldn't you be at school?
He's saying you can't have the same GF on multiple characters, you just read it the wrong way. Also there is only one Shiva, Ifrit, etc in their world. That's why you don't see that.
>>319780518
>Thinks people outside of school are geniuses
Shouldn't you be outside?
>>319780810
Are you saying that he's a genius?
>>319780284
You were the one jumping to "it's just an opinion," I thought you meant you were done with discussion.
IX had more interesting characters
a more interesting story
a more interesting setting
more balanced combat with better customization and variety
8's pros are microscopic by comparison. A better soundtrack only takes you so far when combat is busted, junctioning is tedious, leveling is pointless, you don't care about any of the characters, and nothing makes sense.
VII, VIII and IX are all equallydecentrpg's. They are all flawed. That said I has the mostFUNplayingVIII
>>319780562
>Thinks there isn't the magical 3rd option: Not picking a side because they're both fucking stupid.
Step it up
>>319780562
Are you implying that military spending has not continued to increase under Obama?
>>319780886
No, I'm implying he's delusional
>>319780972
fedora levels off the charts
>>319770568
>my sons mother
he wanted us to know he is a kek
>>319780949
>with better customization and variety
I do like IX more than VIII, but really? IX has linear fixed character progression behind a thin veneer of requiring items to level abilities. VIII has characters as blank slates aside from limit breaks allowing you to junction whatever stats and magics you want to them at any time. How does IX have better customization?
>>319781079
>being neutral means fedora
kill yourself
>>319781061
The military budget this year is less than the year Obama went into office.
Military spending was on a crazy rise when he went into office and it was starting to finally take a downturn during Obama v Romney
Romney literally wanted to spend money on military equipment the military didn't even want when the budget was actually finally being reduced.
>>319780949
>IX had more interesting characters
Yes it did.
>a more interesting story
No it did not. It fucked it's interesting characters in favor of Zidane, Garnet, and Kuja. Who are terrible characters and inferior to the prior ff characters that they rip off of.
>a more interesting setting
Which was tiny and most of it got destroyed. Which was my original point if you actually read it instead of responding with "Everyone agrees with me! You're just a faggot hipster!"
>more balanced combat with better customization and variety
You wot m8? Junction was a hot mess, but in what way did ix have customization? those stupid borderlands-style passive buffs?
>>319781458
>has characters as blank slates
and all you ever do with those blank slates is add a gf, pour in some magic, and junction the magic to whatever stats each spell is best at. You just make a party of tank mages like you always do. In IX you have to actually make choices.
>>319781079
>not picking a side makes you somehow fedora
What are you even going on about?
![3652_front[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/olGgaaH.jpg "3652_front[1].jpg")
>>319769758
when I saw this
>>319781645
That's not customization. You use who's there in the early game and you pick four of the standard ff classes in the late game.
>>319781475
>>319781736
Taking your vote and throwing it in the garbage to prove a point is what makes you fedoracore.
>tfw no gf to junction
>>319781764
>making choices that affect how you play the game isn't customization
??????
No matter what choices you make in FF8 you always end up with a party of tank mages who draw from the same pool of abilities for about the same amount of damage.
>>319772132
They might as well. People would buy it up, even if they claim to hate this game. They could also fix some of the issues that people have with it to make it a smoother experience.
>>319773558
Are you forgetting the part where he literally saved the world and was continuing to not let shit get fucked up
>>319769758
When I woke up in an alternate dimension where FF8 was an entirely different game that had nothing to do with Squall, time-mind powers, or time kompresion.
>>319782024
The point of junction was to either increase your attack and defence or to actually use the magic. No one said it was a good system, but that's in theary what it was supposed to be. Materia did it better. and no, picking from the standard classes is not customization. customization means you know, customizing your characters or items? you're really grasping at straws here.
>>319769758
It's not a bad game but the leveling system is gay since it's either low-level easy way out or max level so you can enjoy your unlocked skills
Then there's the prison.
But I like the game anyway.
>>319781894
that would imply people knew i didnt vote to prove a point. You seem rather upset i didnt want to pick which asshole to put up with.
>>319781513
They didn't rip anybody off. Christ
>>319782392
Picking which characters is part of your party is customization, picking items is customization, picking abilities is customization,
>>319782392
>No one said it was a good system, but that's in theary what it was supposed to be.
Theory doesn't matter when the execution sucks.
>>319782646
Fine. But it's not a whole lot of it.
>>319782646
>6's number of characters
Makes me want to throw up every time. What a blunder
>>319782558
Care to elaborate on that, friend?
>>319783178
On what? They weren't ripoffs. Besides, you can't ripoff characters from your own fucking series
>>319783178
I dont think you know what a rip off means, because you're an idiot.
>>319783315
Semantics. Rip off, rehash. You know what I mean.
So a blonde mercenary that finds out he was actually a weapon and freaks out over it.
A black haired retard who means well but usually fucks everything up and needs to be saved.
And a douchebag who ends up being the main character's brother put up by another villain from their home planet to fuck up the current planet.
Yep. Totally original. Never appeared in any of the older final fantasies. FF9 is never described as a "love letter to the series" by fags why proclaim it as the second coming of christ.
>>319783648
>oversimplification: the post
3/10
try harder
>>319770998
>DPS
>>319782646
I should probably add in something about FFIX and FFX item customization at some point.
>>319783835
And you're still sidestepping my point. I'm not saying there's no difference whatsoever. I'm saying there's clearly an inspiration, especially considering ff9's whole point was to call back the entire series. I'm saying main hero, love interest, and villain of 9 suck and dont live up to who they obviously are based off of.
>>319784162
They're just typical character. They aren't Cloud and Rinoa 2.0 no matter how much you dumb them down
>>319783907
DPS is Damage Per Second, aka your attacking character. One of the three RPG classes along with healer and tank.
its notbut this is a thread about ff8 not the best FF and even though 8 is not my favorite I still like it
>>319784278
"just typical character" still speaks poorly of the game. Even so, it was a tiny part of what i was saying in that original post.
>>319784464
It really doesn't. They're not meant to be something really complex. Hell, most FF characters aren't
>>319769758
i loved it to be honest. i tried playing 7 but it didn't keep me as interested as 8, and i love the gunblade mechanics and renzokuken lion heart is hype as fuck.
is there any hd mods for this game?
is it better to buy the steam version or emulate the ps1 version?
I saw some bad reviews on steam re: the sound
pls respond.
>>319787334
pls
>>319788498
Or simply download the stone age old PC release that is the same as the Steam version but probably supports mods just like the real FFVII did.
>>319769758
I had to start this game like 3 times, I just kept losing interest during the hunt for ellone and completely forgetting the story. Then one time I finally beat and I realized that the story was kind of dumb all around and the game was retardedly breakable. I like 7 better. I'm not sure where 8 stands compared to 6,9 or 10 though.
>>319769758
when i first played it and got wowed by the graphics
then I quickly realized how wrong i was
When I played a bunch of others and realized VIII is the only one I can replay and have any semblance of fun with.
Well, V is also fun to replay cuz of the job changes. But thats about it.
