Paper Jam has been out for days now, how come nobody is talking about it?
Suddenly /v/ stopped having threads about this game and it's weird.
Let's have a comfy Mario RPG thread.
>Meme
>In a first party game
Please tell me this is a shop or something, this is almost as bad as the "PWN brothers"
If anything belongs in the trash its the NoA localization team.
It doesn't come to Americlap for another month so discussion isn't that warranted.
>>319685692
>>319685694
That's a NoE localization. It's not out in America yet.
>>319685416
Partly because it hasn't been released in the US yet. I, for one, want to talk about how Mario killed a beautiful friendship.
>>319685692
People keep saying the trash thing is a meme: where's it from?
>>319685928
i love how bowser loses his shit and blows up peach's castle
![1449171974079[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/r9SwHrm.jpg "1449171974079[1].jpg")
Rate 'em.
>>319685928
Several years ago, an anon kept spamming threads about video games in resumes, and he would always use that exact phrase and an image of Penn Jillette looking smug.
>>319685692
Oh come on. Into the trash it goes was a phrase before it became an internet meme.
whoever made the original image was just conjuring a phrase he probably heard from something else.
>>319686029
1. Inside Story
2. Super Star
3. Partners
4. Paper Jam
5. Dream team
>>319686029
for me its
DT>SSS>PJ=BiS>>PiT
>>319686029
Dream Team and Paper Jam are both huge wastes of potential
Dream Team could have been crazy with the going inside Luigi's mind thing.
Paper Jam could have been a real crossover.
>>319686023
Did the two die or something? Do they show up in any part of the game after you beat the game or something? It feels really weird that they didn't give any closer at all of whether the two got separated like they were afraid would happen.
>>319686029
Just finished PJ, it was pretty disappointing.
SSS 10/10
PiT 7/10
BIS 8/10
DT 9/10
PJ 6/10
>>319686143
I've never seen that before. If it's a meme, it's one that's local to 4chan only
Nearing the end of my first run of Dream Team right now.
It's not as bad as /v/ makes it out to be. There ARE way more tutorials than there need to be, but that's because they wanted to make a shitload of mechanics with the different Luiginary forms and whatnot. At least they're not trying to teach you the same things over and over again.
I just entered the last area. It's pretty good. 1 = 3 > 4 > 2, I'd say.
>>319686603
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/into-the-trash-it-goes-opinion-discarded
Hardly.
Next up: Partners in Time 2, where they go to the future where Mario and Luigi's kids and an adult King Bowser II have to stop a new villain who's actually threatening and dark for a change. You know, because for some reason the second generation stories are darker than the first.
>>319686669
The tutorials are terrible but the game itself is great.
Combat, level design, overworld, art direction are at their best.
>>319687159
Art direction? I've seen the art in this game a thousand times
>>319685774
That's the fucking problem.
I lost interest in the M&L series with Bowser's Inside Story. The writing is great but the gameplay just feels more like playing minigames than actually having an RPG experience. Selecting a special attack in that game was more about choosing which attack minigame I was least sick of instead of trying to match the best move to the situation.
So we'll be allowed to have original characters and locations again in M&L6 or we're stuck fighting Bowser and Bowser jr in the Mushroom Kingdom forever?
>>319687579
we'll have M&L6 after we get M&L5
paper jam is a crossover like the layton/ace attorney game
>>319687579
Again: Partners In Time 2 is going to be next. So kinda.
>>319687359
You've seen these kind of sprites a thousand times? What games?
>>319687579
probably the former. i assume paper jam was a one off thing testing things like how they handled tutorials and apply that knowledge to the next game.
>>319685928
Did Paper Bowser Jr even show up in a game before this? Also, he looks less like he's laking down and more like he's getting ready to be a subject for art students.
>>319687728
Take your meds anon.
Paper Jam is one of the biggest and most baffling wastes of potential ever of all time.
I'm serious, I can actually fix it very easily and make it a real crossover
This is what I'd do
Plot
>The story of the game is about the Paper Mario and the Mario & Luigi worlds merging together for whatever reason
>Every area of the game is literally a mixture between regular and paper, this can lead to interesting art directions
>This can also be used for some neat platforming mechanics
>The main villain of the game is an original character, he merged the worlds for whatever reason
>The story is a typical Paper Mario one, you need to find seven things that are scattered throughout the whole new merged world
>Each location is actually unique and interesting, no bland shit straight up from the NSMB games
>Each location has interesting unique characters, just like in TTYD
>The main hub is the Toad Town from BiS merged with the Toad Town from Paper Mario 1
>Bowser and Paper Bowser are background comic relief characters
>No Bowser Jr or Koopalings
>Paper Kamek is replaced by Kammy Koopa
>Optionally Peach and Paper Peach get kidnapped by the new villain for whatever reason, you need to find the seven things to save them
>Paper Luigi is in the game and he runs a shop or something. He acts jealous towards Luigi because he actually goes to adventures with his brother instead of being left behind
(cont...)
is this game any good? How does Paper Mario fight in the M&L style battles?
>>319688165
And now let’s get to the most important part, the gameplay
>Mario and Luigi fight normally as usual
>Paper Mario fights with action commands, just like in his games
>Mario and Luigi dodge attacks normally
>Paper Mario instead can only block or super block just like in his games, sometimes during boss fights he does extra shit like turning into a paper plane (like it already happens in Paper Jam)
>Paper Mario and paper enemies have low health but very high HP
>This means that they usually only take like 1-3 of damage
>Mario and Luigi and regular enemies have normal hp and normal defense
>But since there needs to be a balance, offense is the same for everyone. This means Paper Mario can still do damage to regular enemies and paper enemies can still do damage to Mario and Luigi
>Mario and Luigi have their bros attacks as usual and they are gained in the exact same way
>Paper Mario instead only gets special attacks through badges
>The badges work just like in the Paper Mario games
>Every time you find one of those seven important plot device things, you get a new Trio Attack
>Trio Attacks use star power. You get star powers by doing successful special attacks or something I dunno
>No Battle Cards bullshit whatsoever
>When Mario and Luigi level up their stats increase like they always did the in the series
>When Paper Mario levels up he gets to choose between increasing HP, FP or BP. Just like in his games.
There, THIS is how Paper Jam should have been.
It'd have been GLORIOUS.
>>319688165
>>319688279
>autism
>>319688279
but very high defense*
fuck
>>319688165
Who ordered this pasta?
>>319687843
That's not from Paper Jam, though
>>319688165
>>319688279
>not muh Paper Mario
Fuck off autist. That is the least of this games problems.
>>319687843
>beautiful as fuck sprites
>destroyed by the 3DS awful 240 resolution
>>319688001
He was a bonus boss in Dream Team: a pretty damn good one, actually. And what did you expect? They're not gonna show a little kid with bruises and cuts or anything.
>>319688465
Good thing we weren't talking about PJ then.
>>319688517
Yeah fuck having an actual original game, we need bland shit.
Fucking drone.
I think people have issues with the simple story.
>>319688682
I sure as hell was. Yes, the sprites look nice, but I meant just on basic world design. It's not as bad as Sticker star, but the settings were as stock as you can get apart from the jail section.
>>319686029
Anyone else notice that Mario seems to be getting more and more fed up with luigi's shit?
>>319688767
The game is mediocre but not because it isn't your retarded mash up of gameplay and characters from both series.
Those walls of text just scream autism, stop it.
>>319689248
Except my version of the game is vague and I don't mention to include any returning character.
And my ''retarded mash up of a gameplay'' is much more interesting than what we've got.
>>319686669
They kind of are though. How many times do we need to be told that a glowing object in the background vaguely shaped like Luigi with a massive button prompt in the corner is a luiginary object? That shit was happening all the way through to the end.
>>319689409I agree with you anon, don't listen to the drones
>>319689409
>Paper Kamek is replaced by Kammy Koopa
I could have stop reading here really.
God damn I wish they would fuck off with the white outline shit.
>>319689558
Seriously, imagine if they did what I suggested, mashing up regular areas with paper areas.
Imagine how amazing the art direction could have been.
>>319689409
Put Junior and the Koopalings back in and this is true.
>>319685416
PJ is not the worst m&l but its not the best
>>319689821
It is the worst, still decent though.
>>319689686
That's what the game already did.
>>319688279
both styles of gameplay dont blend well together
>>319689942
PiT is still the worst imo
>>319685416
I was stuck against Kamek, but I have finally beat her.
I'm Now Fighting the last boss. It's really tough.
>>319690054
No it didn't, the areas are all regular.
>>319690153
>her
>>319690085
>both styles of gameplay dont blend well together
Why not? I suggested a balance to make it work.
>>319690250
Oh sorry. I have the habit to say "her" because I used to think it was a girl because of Yoshi's Island and his whole "motherly" role.
>>319690206
No?
>>319690492
Well I meant something much more radical than that.
Also that location is generic NSMB shit.
>>319688165
>Every area of the game is literally a mixture between regular and paper, this can lead to interesting art directions
That happens across the course of the game you dumbass. Infact the areas dynamically change with Paper terrain being added as the game progresses.
>>319690085
PiT was mediocre in many areas but still felt like a proper Mario RPG, unlike Paper Jams "minigames compilation" approach.
>>319690657
The way I mean it is crazier.
Every single area has a bit of regular and paper in it.
It's be literally a mash-up of both worlds.
Mario's consistently getting more annoyed with Luigi throughout all the game covers.
Cover 1:
>Mario staring ahead at the difficulties in store, while Luigi is content that he gets to spend time with his brother.
Cover 2:
>Mario trying to be a good role model for Baby Mario, while being disappointed in Luigi for not disciplining Baby Luigi enough and allowing Baby Luigi to run wild. Luigi shirks his responsibilities.
Cover 3:
>Mario, sick of Luigi's constant 2:00 a.m. night terrors, has begun to ignore Luigi whenever Luigi gets frightened, hoping to help him establish some self-confidence. Luigi terrors grow worse.
Cover 4:
>Mario is both extremely frustrated with Luigi slacking and even sleeping through important confrontations and travels. Luigi will eventually awaken and scream in horror at his night terror, which involves Mario ignoring him.
Cover 5:
>Mario is sick of Luigi's shit and is quietly thinking of where to bury the body. Luigi has begun hallucinating due to his night terrors preventing him from getting adequate sleep, and tries to direct Mario's attention to the hallucination in front of him.
>>319690865
>Every single area has a bit of regular and paper in it
They eventually do.
>>319690638
That is the definition of a paper area in a regular area.
Also I don't think NSMB ever had an haunted forest.
>>319691031
But is it something like a tree being half regular and half paper?
Because I mean something like that but on a larger scale.
>>319691079
> I don't think NSMB ever had an haunted forest.
NSMB does have one but it's also one of the levels that blows out the myth NSMB is just generic levels.
Am I the only one wo had the sensation of being the actual villain in this game ?
Are Kameks and Koopalings DEAD ?!!!
It's the first time Kamek explodes in the overworld in a M&L and it feels so brutal.
Did we actually make Bowser Jr. in the verge of death ?!!!
Why are is Mario so Ruthless in this game ?
>>319691148
So you didn't even play the game before writing your autistic fanfiction?
>>319690887
>tries to direct Mario's attention to the hallucination in front of him.
>not pointing to the sweet dubs he just got
>>319691308
No, you aren't the only one. That's why I'm seriously pissed there wasn't a scene showing Paper Junior getting pushed back into the book. Completely missed opportunity.
>>319691325
>suggesting game ideas is now fanfiction
k
>>319690318
having the two battle mechanics dont mesh well since mario and luigi combat is more about dodging and countering. having paper mario just sitting there blocking damage would either be broken or the damage rounding like you suggested could fuck him over. if you are controlling them all at once and had to dodge an earthquake attack for example it would be confusing having to make mario and luigi jump while paper mario blocks rather having them all jump at once. Attack patterns would have to be simple for it to work which seeing what the other games have done would be a massive downgrade.
>>319691653
maybe it was Alphadream's doing. Something like a punition for Nintendo, because they wanted them to use normal mario characters and settings ?
>>319691946
Well you could fix that by simply making those type of attacks only hit Mario and Luigi.
>>319691997
What, for just showing him going into the book? They did it to literally every other paper character that hadn't exploded-- he is the sole exception.
>>319692056
That's fucking retarded. The game already has a balancee, all three of them can dodge or counter with jumps and hammers and all three of them have an "Emergency Block" button that sort of works like The Paper Mario guards at the expense of not being able to evade the attack completley.
It's arguably an improvemebt on the regular combat mechanics because the enemies attack patterns have became a bit more complex and punishing and being able to guard and reduce damage while you see what they do is pretty good.
>>319692056
thats dumb. your basically making it worse than PJ's combat which is already fantastic and needs no changes.
>>319692393
I liked the combat system but I miss the ability to move around and face different directions I had in Dream Team.
>>319692634
PJ's combat is just Mario & Luigi but with a third character than can flutter when jumping.
My version is more original.
>>319692824
>My version is more original.
it may be more original but mechanically its worse.
>>319686023
>>319686023
>Blows up Peach's Castle.
Got a vid link?
>>319688001
He was in Sticker Star
>>319693168
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Af7ukG6kAs&t=24m30s
There you go.
>>319685928
Jr. and Paper Jr. were willing to blow up an entire universe just to keep playing.
They deserved the ass whooping.
Though I admit that "leaving a little kid on the verge of death" was kinda brutal for a mario game. Exploding in stars like the other bosses would be less rough than this was.
>>319693460
They're friendship was so strong they were literally willing to blow up one of their own universe's to be together. If that's no megabro shit, I don't know what is.
Why is Paper Mario so op?
>>319693852
its called being gay is what it is
>>319694001
Would your dick get a papercut if you tried to bang your paper double?
>>319694102
paper bowser jr is made out of toilet paper
How do I use Toad Trail? This shit is impossible.
>>319694262
>paper bowser jr is made out of toilet paper
Oh, well then its fine. They can be as gay as they want.
>>319694001
I mean dude, if you found a copy of yourself, a really alternate universe copy of your self, you wouldn't want to hang out with them forever?
>>319694274
Oh...never mind. You have to hold the control stick forward while you do it. Wow.
>>319694360
no because i'd be like bowser and hate my counterpart
>>319694274
You have to hold up and then turn the circle pad as the track bends. Its like a Mario Kart Track except that the accellerator is pushing up.
Once you get used to the idea to it it is incredibly easy to get excellents with it.
>>319694479
:(
