Welp, the Hotline Miami Level Editor beta is out. How is it /v/?
If I wanted Hotline Miami 2 with good levels I'd play Hotline Miami 1.
crashes really often when I save or try to play a level and the UI is horrible and the cursor sensitivity is all fucked but I'm still going to use the shit out of it
>>319660493
is there any way to get an external version? I don't have hotline miami 2 for steam.
>Hotline Miami 2
Guess what date this coming out would be relevant.
>>319661795
Yeah- fuck people with different tastes than us.
>>319661838
it's out now. Released on Dec. 10
>>319661861
Hotline Miami 2 was somehow inferior to a 3 year old game anon, no excuse
Why not release it for both anyway
>>319662058
mad tonyfag detected
>>319662091
Yeah, fleshing out the story too much and taking things too seriously was also a flaw
>>319660493
jesus christ, an editor that was supposed to come out with the game on release is out now. who still cares?
>>319661861
If you're dumb enough to enjoy shit then good for you.
>>319661939
Work on your reading comprehension.
>>319662212
>caring about the story
The first and foremost issue is that the levels are fucking garbage and by extension the whole game.
>>319660493
I don't know how to make it trigger the "mission complete" sign when you kill all the NPCs but other than that it looks alright
>tfw pirated version
fuck
>>319662364
Fuck off HM1 cuc'k
>>319662396
Don't worry, you wouldn't have made anything worth a damn anyway.
>>319662364
The devs certainly cared about the story and the characters, otherwise they wouldn't have devoted so much fucking screen time to both of those things.
This also directly impacts the gameplay because you're forced to play certain ways based on each character. Don't you just love the fucking soldier levels?
How do I get it? My game isn't updating by itself. Do I have to download something ?
>>319662463
HM2 fans, everyone.
>>319662504
>buyfag fedora opens his mouth
>>319662510
You're not actually stupid enough to believe that they came up with the writing first and the character gimmicks second, are you?
>>319662617
>buyfag
Fuck off retard
>>319662704
>triggered
lmao
>>319662617
Fedora insult, nice. Your mother must be proud.
its about a year too late is what it is
>>319662750
>shitposts as hard as he can repeatedly
>calls other people triggered
go work a mcjob kiddo and you too can afford cheap shitty indie games instead of whining on /v/
>>319662668
Don't put words in my mouth. Whatever they came up with first doesn't matter, what matters is how it was implemented into the game. IE, poorly.
For fuck's sake, nobody really cared about HM1's story. So why the fuck is there so much focus on it in HM2?
>>319662516
Use google or check the forums you fucking retard.
>>319662887
>ay u mad lol xD
>editor is out
>workshop is not
>supposed to come out in spring
>supposed to come out at the end of November
>the beta come out in December
thanks for teaching me to never pre-order, Dennaton
>>319662935
I'm not putting words in your mouth. You said the story impacts the gameplay because it forces you to play certain ways on each character. The gameplay forces you to play certain ways on each character, not the story. You're legitimately too stupid to criticize a videogame. Please kill yourself.
DENNATON IS THE NEW HIDEO AND KOJIMA
TBQH FAMI
I hope someone makes a Jacket post apocalypse campaign.
can you finish levels by just talking to npcs?
can you make some sort of rpg out of this?
>>319662510
I actually really liked those levels
>>319662212
test
kek
>>319663128
>preordering a game just for the level editor
you are beyond a shadow of a doubt retarded
>>319663867
no, I preorder it because I liked the first and I thought the second would be better
it was shit and the one thing that might have saved it (the level editor) was 9 months late
Is this the same beta version than the leaked one from spring?
Is it PC only?
>>319664752
fucking obviously
>>319663986
>it was shit
shit taste go back to cawwadooty
>>319664992
nah, I'll just play Nuclear Throne while listening to HM2's soundtrack, it's a far better Hotline Miami game than 2 could ever be
>>319664992
ironic
>One of the only problems people had with the game was the level design
>Level editor comes out
>"Still a shit game lol"
>>319665457
Are you the type to say Skyrim's a good game because you can mod it?
>cutscene editor
>multiple floors
>can create campaigns
>custom VHS covers
The features are all there, too bad the UI is designed by an autistic 12 year old, it barely works and THE EDITOR WAS SUPPOSED TO COME OUT LAST SPRING
>>319665678
But this isn't a mod, it's a part of the game.
>>319664869
So buying the game was pointless?
>>319665746
They're such pussies that they won't let people use their own music. No only is this completely limp dicked, it's entirely retarded. They're not liable for music that people use as long as their product doesn't distribute it, and they could easily create a file structure for custom level soundtracks (fancy way of saying "a fucking folder that people who download levels put their chosen music tracks into")
>>319665996
In either case it's a shit game whose only redeeming feature is/will be its tools that allow fans to generate actual quality content, though "quality content" would be a dubious claim in the case of Skyrim and remains unproved in the case of HM2 (but will likely also end up being a dubious claim).
>>319666213
as for the moment, yes
>>319666213
Your fault for buying shit on a gimped "you're only allowed to play what we say" computer in the first place, moron.
>>319666275
HM2 is one of the best games of 2015 regardless of the level editor.
>>319666305
Well at least the game was on sale at a really low price when I bought it so I'm not all that pissed off.
>>319666492
If that's true, then 2015 was probably one of the most shit years in vidya since 1983.
>>319666492
Haha oh god
>>319666449
Are you calling the ps3 a computer?
Holy christ I hate you niggers.
Shit up a thread cause you don't like something. You faggots that say WELL WE DIDN'T GET IT SOON ENOUGH.
I hope you all die.
>>319666786
Oh boy are we doing this? Please, by all means, let's do this.
https://www.google.com/search?q=computer&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#safe=off&q=define+computer
Take your pick.
>>319666609
What was bad about the game apart from the level design?
>Tighter gameplay than HM1
>Great Soundtrack
>Masks that changed your style of play alot more than HM1
>Decent story
>>319666879
>promise the level editor in the spring
>postpone it
>release the beta in december (full editor was supposed to come in spring 2015 and then end of november)
>people complain
>"WHY ARE YOU SO ENTITLED?!"
Its because of people like you developers are allowed to fuck customsers in the ass
>>319666954
except it had shit level design, and the soundtrack wasn't as good.
>>319666954
>Tighter gameplay than HM1
Pfft. No.
>Great Soundtrack
So what?
>Masks that changed your style of play alot more than HM1
>masks that pigeonholed you into playing only a certain way on certain levels
>Decent story
lmao
>>319666954
>Tighter gameplay
it had way more glitches then the first and significantly less weapons
I dont know how either of those was "tighter"
the level design was worse on most occasions since it was covered in glass windows and giant levels that people can kill your from outside of your range
and only a few of those mask mechanics were actually interesting
>>319666954
>Tighter gameplay than HM1
It's the same exact gameplay with the only changes being that you can't choose your mask per level, which restricts gameplay options
>Great Soundtrack
I'll give you that, but it's pretty much the only thing improved upon
>Masks that changed your style of play alot more than HM1
and they were forced upon you, where HM1 gave you a whole host of masks to use for any given level
>Decent story
you kidding? The story was pretty much just fanwank that dropped any of the subtlety the first game had in favor of inserting OC Donut Steels that ultimately leads nowhere and ends with AND EVERYONE DIED OR DID DRUGS THE END
That's not even taking into account the complete downgrade in level design, the myriad of bugs in the AI and the overabundance of guns.
>>319667191
>soundtrack wasnt as good
you mean each level having its own song isnt as good as hearing hotline and knock knock three times?
>>319666954
I really fucking liked Richter's levels for some reason, especially Demolition simply because of Narc by Mega Drive.
>>319666786
The PS3 is probably the closest thing to a computer while still being a console there is.
But yes, by definition every console is just a computer with very specific hardware.
>>319667076
There is no group of people in the world that thinks they deserve more for less than gamers. Spoiled autistic freaks
>>319667552
lol
>>319667410
Thank you for telling me this and not posting a link that I wasn't going to waste my time checking like the other guy.
>>319667254
>significantly less weapons
So I'll be able to get the generic USE ALL WEAPONS TROPHY a lot quicker then? Sounds like a plus to me.
>>319667552
>Make promises
>break them
>You're just entitled for holding them to that
>>319667879
>braking promise
>hey guys heres the beta!
>FUCK YOU!!!!
>not selfish entitled assholes
>>319667854
Leveraging your ignorance regarding the definition of the word "computer" into a passive aggressive snipe? Wow, you're the obstinate kind of retarded.
>>319668027
>say that the editor is gonna come in the spring 2015
>release the beta in december 2015
How do you not see a problem with this?
>>319668127
Never in the history of video games has anything ever been delayed
>>319668127
Developers have been overpromising and underestimating development times for so long that people have grown not only to accept it but think it's excusable.
>>319668086
Why do you care?
>>319668452
Why do you care?
>>319668564
Good question.
EVERYBODY SHUT THE FUCK UP AND POST YOUR LEVELS.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ivr5ugm1eauj548/AAAbZiVH3hSBE0jako1BFNtMa?dl=0
>>319668353
>>319668382
The point is that they advertised the level editor before the release of the game in a way to make us believe it would be part of the product on release. Then they said SORRY IT'S STILL IN ALPHA MAYBE WE'LL HAVE A BETA VERSION SOON.
Fast forward to July, and we barely see any hints of progress. Fast forward again to December (a full 9 months after launch), and we are only now seeing a beta release of a feature that was slated to be released with the full game.
And considering that the base game for HM2 was a direct step backward from the first game, leaving out the one potentially unique selling point is not helping their case.
>>319668382
case in point >>319668353
>>319668843
hey man don't get me caught up in your post-quote-soup, I agree with you
>>319668843
>direct step backward from the first game
Objectively wrong you fucking moron
>Beta
>>319669076
lol
>>319669076
>level design is objectively worse
>enemy AI is glitchy as fuck
>story takes away the gameplay options
>not objectively worse
nice shit opinion you have.
So are Jacket and Biker actually playable in the editor like they promised or was that a lie too? Is they are in, does Jacket use multiple masks or is he now just stuck using Richard?
>>319669315
Level design is fine git gud nignog
I had no glitches besides spinning dogs.
The gameplay was almost the same. Masks didn't change it very much.
You're dumb.
>>319669315
>level design is objectively worse
Richter levels were fine. Only 3-4 levels were a pain because too much windows
>enemy AI is glitchy as fuck
Like in 1? Faster I guess
>story takes away the gameplay options
There is more playstyle than HM1...You're still mad about Tony don't you?
>not objectively worse
Perhaps not better, but just as good. Plus the soundtrack is better
>>319669716
lmao
>>319669716
>>319669971
HM2 internet defense force on the scene.
>>319669646
I just made a map with Jacket and he has all his masks.
Also the editor is a fucking mess.
>>319670048
Must be hard to haveshittaste
>>319670205
Since you're the reigning expert on shit taste I'll have to take your word on the subject.
I haven't played Hotline Miami 2, only the first one.
What makes it so bad compared to 1?
>>319670317
maybe read the thread
>>319670314
What can I say. Pic related is my favorite game.
Still, you can't say that HM1 is GOTY when on the other hand you say that HM2 is a huge piece of shit. Its just doesn't make sense.
>>319669971
Why are people so sore over tony? He can't use weapons? So what? He can still punch faggots to death. I prefer using him over the other fans.
>>319670176
>he has all his masks.
Oh thank god. Guess that means tonyfag a are gonna be happy.
>>319670548
>Why are people so sore over tony? He can't use weapons? So what? He can still punch faggots to death. I prefer using him over the other fans.
I tried making a map for The Fans but realised too late that Tony a shit and can't punch people far away with guns.
>>319670537
Tried playing Daggerfall once.
Bit too ambitious for my taste.
>>319670548
Because people who like HM1 doesn't realize how much it break the fucking game. HM1 is piss easy once you get the grip, especially with Tony!
>>319670734
Remaking it is even more ambitious!
>>319670662
Why don't you just adjust your level for Tony playstyle? Or give a wall to just let people bait.
You know there's gonna be one guy autistic enough that he's gonna recreate all the HM1 levels.
>People can edit your levels, change the author name and steal em for themselves
Yeah I ain't uploading my shit.
>>319662510
switching weapons after shooting quickly made me not switch weapons way too often
>>319670537
>What can I say. Pic related is my favorite game.
>Daggerfall
Watch out guys, this guy's shit taste is dangerous
Both hotline games are good In their own way
Stay mad assfaggots
man where the fuck are the doors at?
cant find them anywhere
I thought Hotline Miami 2 was okay, but if Dennaton thinks I'm going to come back months after beating it for just a level editor they are deluded. I got my 12 hours of fun, but my interest in the game is gone. The level editor is too little too late I guess.
B-but jacket and biker are playable now.
