So with the PC release coming up and finally getting to play this hidden gemI wasn't going to purchase a console for a single game, I've been looking into the vocations to decide how to play my first playthrough.
I've managed to narrow it down to 3 choices: Assassin, Sorcerer, or Mystic Knight.
I really can't decide. Sorcerer has the awesome screen-filling spells, Assassin makes maximum use of the enemy climbing mechanicbut may apparently give pawns the bad habit of ALWAYS trying to climb a monster, and Mystic Knight can do ridiculous shit like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf8DRVsUYeE
Help me decide, /v/, for I am an undecisive faggot.
I wouldn't recommend sorcerer for your first playthrough. Sure, he has ridiculously flashy spells and is strong as fuck, but standing a mile away from the action charging your nukes isn't terribly fun.
Assassin and MK are apples and oranges, pick whatever you like best.
Reminder to new players to not spam the "Come!" command.
>>319645349
I wonder what compels people to do that
Even my first pawn ended up being a guardian
>>319645349
>>319645494
I figured it was hardest for pawns to fuck up when I charged ahead and told them to come and join me.
>>319645543
there's a go command, man
She-goat is best girl.
>that combination of mage and MA skills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-59kCw6VBio
I need to try that at some point.
>>319644664
Why not play sorcerer and if you like switch to MK later? If you want to be better at melee you could throw in some fighter, warrior or assassin.
Just decide if you want to play a magic build or a physical one. Then just jump around the classes that fit that build (fighter, warrior, strider, assassin, archer for physical - mage, sorcerer, mystic knight, magic archer for magic). You either want all magic atk or all physical atk and a balance for defence.
I'm definitely going magic archer after hearing they can set themselves on fire and jump on enemies
>>319646685
>>319644664
You'll wind up playing all the classes to unlock specific skills. Just don't do something stupid like play a warrior for 90 levels and then switch to MA and wonder why you do no damage.
>>319649194
>what is stamina
>>319649708
If you're not going full glass cannon than you should have enough stamina with just regular leveling.
>>319649889
Magic builds benefit from some levels as the stamina classes. You have them in there for physical but not for magical.
Can I teach my pawn how to perfect block if I'm leveling as an assassin when he's a fighter or do I need to be a fighter as well ?
>pre-purchase offer should go up on sometime on the 17th
HOLY SHIT GET HYPE
>>319650820
Link?
>>319651191
http://steamcommunity.com/app/367500/discussions/0/487876568220739770/
>>319651258
>can't access the page to ask if it's going to be available in my fucking region because the game isn't available here
Fuck you, Valve.
Fuck you, Capcom.
>>319651331
Really? I thought Capcom already got rid of 'em. Where are you living?
>>319651629
Southeast Asia. Apparently it's not available in whole of Asia thanks to Japanese jews, like how Konami pulled Rising from Steam for the region. Hopefully this is just a mistake and when it's up for preorder it'll appear here too.
>>319650820
>GET HYPE
Literally why?
>>319650556
Should still work.
if you play anything other than mystic knight or warrior, you're a bitch
I heard the cities in this game are barren and feel devoid of life because of the limitations of console hardware. Is this true, consolefriends?
>>319652248
The only bad thing about the cities are the pop-ins of npc's.
>>319652248
city*
and no, it's great in terms of design but between shitty draw distance, pop in npcs and bad framerate it can get pretty annoying
>>319652248
Where the fuck did you hear that from?
Capcom made by far made the best city in fantasy RPG from a technical standpoint until The Witcher 3 came out.
>guardian inclination
I played this game as a fighter, but the character wouldn't use a shieldI'm a rp fuckso I never equipped one on him. I stopped after a few days cause the PC version was then just announced. If I continue down this same path again in January am I going to have a bad time?
>not going for guttsmode
>>319652751
play assassin you nignog, at least you counters and a bow
it should be fine either way though, at least once you get dragon's maw
>>319652723
>mage pawns without halidom
>sorcerer pawns witthout voidspell
>pawns with no gear and skills
>the 'guardian is inherently shit' meme
So I take it you've never been a caster who's sick of your shit getting interrupted by trash mobs?
I always have a single guardian in my party as a caster, purely to stick by me in case I get targeted by some flying/fast enemy like a wolf, goblin, or harpy type enemy.
>>319652836
>play assassin
yeah... no, I'm more of a
>>319652782 this type of guy.
>>319652782
I will but it's obviously outclassed by other classes.
They could've at least buffed warriors.
>>319653027
there's a class that's literally made for Guts rp and you decide to play fighter with no shield instead
what the fuck man
>>319653105
Anon, I only had like 3 or 4 so hours into the game on my first run, I hadn't unlocked the gutts-powerfantasy-mode yet.
I'm eyeballing Mystic Knight, how much fun am I in for as someone who loves sword/board and using magic to supplement it?
>>319653461
get abyssal anguish as soon as you can
that is all
>>319652782
Who are you quoting? As far as I can see at least half of this threads is going for guttsmode.
>>319652723
>acquisitor/pioneer inclination combo
>>319646685
>She-goat
Not!Cascade is not for bullying!
>>319653461
It's finally playable now, soon on pc.
I want Gutts mode ever since I bought the gutts armor but warriors are underwhelming on BB Isle. Feels bad man.
>>319653795
A true warrior doesn't acknowledge any other option for their class.
Man, I'm so fucking glad you guys on pc get to experience this game. It's seriously one of my favorites. Must've played it over and over again about 12 times. I used to have a ranger pawn that absolutely shit on everything. I'd always get him back with max stars and some wakestones whenever somebody used him.
Don't want to make this a consolewar shitflinging thread, but it just seems odd to me that there are people who didn't own a PS3.
>>319654650
I only bought one at the end of its lifespan because of Dragon's Dogma, DaS2 and Persona 5, it's very possible
>>319654650
I got gifted one on xmas, same for PS4, but I personally would never buy a console for any single game. I love DD, it's without a doubt my favorite console game, but I still wouldn't pay £400 just to play that. I haven't touched my PS4 since April when Bloodborne came out.
>>319654760
I got a PS3 late but that was just because I was a penniless teenager for most of the generation.
>>319654794
PS4 I can understand, but the PS3 had so many games. Just seems weird to avoid it.
>>319644664
Daily reminder that Strider is objectively the best class due to its climbing ability and that one jumping attack (Helm splitter?)
>>319654650
I bought one to try out DD, as well as some other PS3 exclusives, but then the PC version was announced like a week after I started playing. the 20fps and letterbox was unbearable, so I deiced to just patiently wait.
>>319654650
Got it for DeS, MGS4, SCIV and Wipeout.
Regretted only one of those purchases. But owning a PS has become a tradition for me, even if PS1 and 2 were better. I grew up with those, but also always had a mediocre pc for strategy games and wrpgs.
>>319654928
Well I certainly make no claim that the PS3 version of Dragon's Dogma ran well in any universe. If any console game needed a PC port it was this one.
>>319654910
All of them are fun as fuck to play with. My personal favorite was always magic archer. I'd load him up with monk talismans or whatever and destroy Damien.
>>319654650
I didn't buy one until Journey got a physical release a few years back.It's very unlikely I'll buy another console.
>>319655057
I never really used any of the magic classes because of how much they fuck with the Framerate. Hopefully i can actually fucking use them in this version without playing a slideshow
>>319655028
yeah, I'm still surprised it happened though. Came at a bad time though, I was actually having a lot of fun.
What do you guys think the chance of this being ported to ps4/xbone? I don't have an older console anymore or a pc, and I'd love to play this again.
>>319655113
This is what confuses me. So many people seem to just look past exclusives. Be they on Xbox, PS3 or even PC.
I'll never understand people who just ignore systems they don't own.
>>319655227
Don't see why they wouldn't/couldn't. If it's gonna be on PC, xbone and PS4 aren't out of the question. The fanbase is there, for sure.
>>319655157
Oh shit dude. You missed out. I never had any problems running it on 360. Magic archer has a skill called ricochet shot, and if you fired that off in a small room or a hallway you'd fuck up everything.
>>319655227
If was being ported for them, I'd think they would've announced it at the same time as the PC version. sorry bud.
>>319655336
Sweet. I mean, with all this talk of backwards compatibility with Xbox and ps4, I was really hoping I'd get to play this gem again soon.
>>319655157
That's sad. DD has the best magic in any game I've played, hands down. MArcher is my favorite class and I usually play sorcerer for like 80 levels before changing because that's just as fun.
Honestly Mystic Knight is fun as fuck but doesn't feel as rewarding as Asassin, Ranger, Magick Archer. Feels more like i'm being a buff bitch for my pawns.
I'm a sucker for tower shields and hammers though. And dropping two of those turret things, flame buffing your weapon and unleashing like 12 balls of flame is so fucking fun.
>>319655305
I don't understand what you mean.
>>319655227
Are you posting from a phone?
>Not implementing co-op into the port
Fucking A' Capcom, I just want to kill monsters and shit with the bros senpai.
>>319655605
This conversation is just going to trigger a shitposter at some point, so I'll stop now before the thread implodes.
>>319654650
Why would I buy a console when every worthwhile game eventually gets ported over to PC much like this one?If the port is shit then I'll just skip the game. There's enough games out there to never run out.
>>319657629
>every worthwhile game eventually gets ported over to PC
But that's objectively incorrect.
I'm a decent level Warrior now, can I still be a Strider, Ranger, and Assassin?
>>319658083
yes
>>319658208
saWEET thanks mango
>>319657629
Emulation is technically not the same as porting, anon.But your point stands
>>319658083
I would even argue that you are now a better strider, ranger or assassin than just playing one of those.
You will be lacking stamina when you want to spam those bow-skills, some items will easily make up for it.
>>319658315
I suppose that's the exception. Handheld games don't usually get ports but they become emulatable in a few years.
>>319653338
You unlock it as soon as you reach Gran Soren and get to level 10 which is like an hour tops.
>>319644664
OP, you are a fucking idiot. You're seriously over thinking a simple ass game.
>>319658369
thanks man that sounds great. perfect.
>>319657629
>>319658478
Only thing that pc will forever be denied is the original xbox.
Not sure if the 360 will ever successfully be emulated or not.
>>319651908
>getting hyped to preorder 2015
Is there a guide on how to train your pawn for maximum effectiveness? When I originally played I got tired of saving their retarded asses and ended up spending a lot of time solo.Why couldn't this just be a jolly co-op game
>>319658972
There is not one good guide, it depends on your pawns class. Play the same vocation for a while and watch over his inclinations.
http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Pawn_Inclination
>>319658972
Play the same class as your pawn for a while so it picks up on some of your habits. There's no "best" way to train your pawn aside from gitting gud.
>>319658972
I dont mind the pawn system, i just wish there was more depth and management options (a less obtuse training system would be nice).
bump
I don't want to have to buy this game a third time, but I don't want to lose out on pawn sharing by playing a repack or something...
>>319646685
is that a 40 year old transsexual?
>>319661871
>hating on the goat
>>319661871
I like men and even I can see that you have to be one massive faggot to not like bleating she-goats
>>319658972
Your pawn learns from you. If they're retarded, it's because you're retarded. Play better and so will your pawn.
>>319662446
>make retarded AI for pawns
>claim that they do only what you do
Tricky japs.
>>319662446
If I play assassin and my mage pawn starts climbing on shit that'd my fault?
I won't be able to play until I found out how to put Flying Into Free back into the title screen.
Fuck them for taking it out of Dark Arisen.
>>319662672
Maybe, it could also be the scather inclination.
>>319644664
Holy shit that video was awesome
>>319662672
Properly teach your pawn to be a mage first then. Go as a mage and only heal and shoot fire balls and your pawn will say "well it seems my master would like me to just heal and shoot fire balls." It's not rocket science.
Every vocation is viable, I've played through this game a bunch of different times. Mystic archer, sorcerer, and mage are very strong and flashy but I found them to be a little boring.
I had the most fun playing strider, assassin, and fighter.
>that first time you ran into that dragon near the shadow fort and thought it was Grigori
Did you bail or fight?
>>319663302
I fought and got my ass kicked. I think I went to the shadow fort too early, it was one of the first things I did after getting to gran soren because I saw the Mercedes escort mission on the inn board.
>>319663302
Fight, escort npc died after two seconds. Had to reload and run.
It was night I thought it was a chimera.
Anyone on the ps3 wants to get his pawn hired? Only one anon had me given his username in a former thread.Please be a blue vocation
>can backup my save files in two clicks now
>can have multiple save files with multiple characters
Thank you based PC.
>>319663574
>cyclops and chimeras
>finally make it to the wall
>I'll just walk back even though night is falling
>oh shit I'm getting raped out here
>a cave, how nice
>beats ghost-rape for sure
>fucking cockatrice
>>319644664
Don't bother you are gonna be disappointed.
>>319663774
I made a snivelling little henchman Mage named Baldrick, who naturally never gets summoned because he not a loli or sexy model man. Much regret. He seems perfectly effective, though, likes his meteors.
>>319663043
And what's stopping my later climbing as an assassin from overwriting that
>>319659304
After that, what happens when you switch classes? Does the pawn gradually become less effective as your own tactics change, or is there a point at which it stops learning unless you reset it?
>>319664627
>Does the pawn gradually become less effective as your own tactics change
Yes.
>>319664281
I don't remember if you can search for pawn names, give me the ps3 name if you want some rent.
>>319645349
could you explain this a bit more? i'm thinking of picking up Dragon's Dogma and i heard the Pawn system is pretty important.
>>319664879
Eh he's only 60-something I'm still not finished with the game so I'm sure he's not that useful for endgame content which I'm assuming most people here are at.
>>319665263
There are commands assigned to the d pad which are Go, Help, and Come. Spamming Come and Help too much during battle will turn your Pawn into a Guardian. A Guardian Pawn will stick to you during battle and never attack unless you're hit. Basically it's a shitty body guard that draws all the aggro to you and never attacks until you get rekt. They're useless.
>>319665263
Aside from learning from you, pawn behavior is also set on their inclinations. Using the commands has the bad side affect that they will affect the inclination.
Guardian for instance is an universally abhorred inclination, that still a lot of pawns have because people use the command "come" which causes this inclination to get stronger in the pawn.
>>319665616
Yeah, I'm 190. But I could cheese my way through with explosive ten-fold arrows.
>>319665263
Your pawn is going to copy your playstyle. Because of this, you are going to want to have your pawn as a similar vocation to yours, or exact. This is because pawn's need to learn how to use their skills properly from you. My pawn and I were both fighters, and I managed to teach him how to use that one shield skill while standing under flying dragons that will throw your character up in the air so you can grab its tail.
Another pawn I hired was a mage pawn, and his owner taught him how to avoid almost all damage basically. The pawn would mostly spam buffs and heal, but every time something dangerous came towards it, it would jump and dodge the attack while canceling its spell.
You can also teach your pawn to perfect block as a fighter and he'll basically never take damage either.
There's a ton of other stuff you can teach your pawn, but you have to have the same skills as them to teach them, and that usually means you have to play the same class. I also recommend that you either change your pawn's class at level 10 and only then, or never, as changing their class fucks them up if you trained them and they won't attack anything. This happened to my fighter pawn I leveled until level 100
>>319652248
It was REALLY bad on console because of pop-ins.
Should be ok on PC. Looks great from what I've seen.
>>319665745
>>319665789
It's strange to tie inclination to COME and GO when they're obviously going to be used based on the situation. I tell my pawn COME if we're running the fuck away and GO to increase their attack frequency for a minute or so. It works perfectly fine like that, sans inclinations it would be wonderful.
>>319666091
So what if I play as a Mystic Knight?
what would be the best vocation for my pawn?
>>319646685
She-goat isGOAT
>>319644664
I have type 2 bipolar disorder, OP. It makes me really indecisive and it makes me instantly regret any decisions, as soon as I've made them.
So my advice to you is to just play the game and try everything as you go. There's no need to make an "Optimal" build. Over the course of the game, I tried everything and devoted a few levels to each class and I was able to destroy big monsters in endgame like they were NOTHING.
I ended up with Mystic Knight, just because I liked the moves.
>>319666330
Fighter, since you'll be perfect blocking a lot and you share a lot of skills.
>>319666091
I don't see a problem with changing vocations. I have the habit of playing vocation A, which will be my pawns vocation, while my pawn plays vocation B for stats and augments. Later switched around and everything worked fine.
>>319651331
You can come over to my place and play it with me, Anon. :3
>>319666330
Or mage/sorcerer. You might play those vocations anyway before and you can switch to the staff and show your pawn that shooting fireballs is an approved tactic.
>>319664362
Because your pawn will have seen you as a mage so knows what to do as a mage. Right now your pawn has no example to go by so they're just winging it, filtering your lead. You gotta layout the blueprint for them first and they'll take it from there.
>>319652454
I've never even noticed before. I'm sure it's there. Maybe the graphic options will allow you to increase view distance?
>>319666091
The jump and dodge is the default damage avoiding AI.
Its the reason why a lot of Sorc Pawns with huge spells suck complete ass.
The pawn will start casting their huge ass AoE spell all the time but always cancels it because he wants to avoid damage even though you gave him shit to cast through attacks.
>pawn is ugly midget first playthrough
>never hired
>make cute loli pawn on new playthrough
>instantly comes back with thousands of rift crystals
>i am level 3
>>319667223
>pedo lies and delusion
>At game store a year or so ago
>Choice between Dragon's Dogma and Dragon Age 1
>Chose Age
I feel like I made a terrible mistake.
>>319667223
>pawn uses best gear in slot to be as useful as possible
>0 rents
>put the most skimpy outfit in the game on her
>dozens of rents
Gamers think with their penis.
>>319667529
DA origins was pretty good. I had hopes for that series. Damn it.
>>319667807
Kingdoms of Amalur was better.
>>319667591
Your pawn didn't stick out. Almost everyone uses the best gear available without any sense of style.
Skills and inclinations are way more important.
>>319667974
>tfw nobody will ever buy the IP from Rhode Island and make a sequel
Weird NPC designs and overacted animations aside, that game had some VERY enjoyable gameplay. Unique weapons too, I fucking love the chakrams and faeblades.
>>319667974
Why would you even compare those two with each other? This is almost as bad ascomparing DD with DaS
My first playthrough on Hard, I reset my character to first level, and made a new pawn. She was gloriousBefore my save file got corrupt and then I fucked up on loading my backup somehow. That's one thing I'm looking forward to on the PC version, being able to keep and share multiple save files.
My pawn's name was Ophelia, and she was a badass buff warrior princessWith huge hips and giant titsand tanned skin, with a butch haircut.
Some of my favorite moments in gaming were just wandering around DD's map with that pawn.
>Heading up to blighted manse
>suddenly gain a level for no reason.
>Turn around to see Ophelia standing over half a dozen bandit corpses.
>Imagine her grinning, "Watch your step, Arisen."
Later
>Pawn catches on to jumping and swinging, instead of climbing on foes
>Every boss battle becomes us sweeping the monster's feet out from under it so that we can stab it in the eye.
>Pretty much got to where we could stunlock drakes, towards the end there.
Does this game have horses?
>>319663574
I felt Selene's was worse due to all the snow harpies and the bullshit bandits and shit, especially the Fighter/Warrior bandits who seem unstunlockable.
>>319667974
Well, no. But it was a very good game. I feel like if it were more complete, it would have been better.
Once you get far enough into the game to see where it had been rushed, it's not really entertaining, anymore.
BUT GODDAMN WAS THAT ARTSTYLE GOOD
>>319668301
It has oxen.
You can kill them, which will drawn griffins down from the sky, so you can hopefully engage them in combat.
>>319668163
There was some good shit under all that jank and dumb elf crap. The side quest stories were all kind of neat even if they never went anywhere.
>>319668226
Because they seem to use the same shitty engine.
>>319668628
>Amalur used MT Framework
Capcom never hands out their engine unless they basically commission someone to make a game for them.
>YFW you walk into Daimon's chamber for the first time
>>319668935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CQgVrM6eco
>>319668807
No, Dragon Age Origins and Amalur seem to share the same engine.
>>319668521
>trying to bait a griffin
GET DOWN HERE YOU CHEEKY CUNT
I KNOW YOU SEE ME FUCKFACE
>>319668935
Kek!
>>319663302
Ended up with some early dragonforged shit, killed itself somehow
>>319669091
BURN ITS WINGS
>>319668935
This is the only time I can ever remember having to pause a game to mentally prepare. Like, I had to stop for a second, go outside, and smoke a cigarette.
post your face whenSavan revealed himself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOKXXt4I0Mgat the end of the game
>>319669309
PIC RELATEDES DE DOG
>>319669091
>See it
>It won't come down
>Burn through all of your stamina sprinting and firing your bow in vain
>It lands just far enough away that you can't reach it in time before it takes off again
>>319669309
Beware, anons that never played DD, that is a spoiler used like it should be used.
>>319668935
I thought I was prepared.
>>319646685
shes okay. Big breasted blonde is better
>>319644664
I don't know if I should go with Mystic Knight for the fun of it, or try and Minmax my character for maximum damage.
I want to have fun, but the last time I did a playthrough my character was incredibly weak.
>>319669626
Was it vanilla dogma? When DA came out, stats were revised, so end game gear will make up like 75% of your damage. Add on the augments on top of that, and the difference between being balanced and minmax aughtism is tiny.
>Play through first playthrough as an Assassin
>Feel pretty fucking powerful
>Do my second playthrough, decide to go magical
>End up playing Sorcerer in order to buff up the magic stat
>Play Sorcerer for a while, get all spells
>Never want to play anything else
>>319669309
>>319669519
The first time I fought 'im, I didn't look up any guides or even see any gameplay. I just wanted to fight him blind.I can't even remember what level I was, but I thought I was strong enough. I think it was that attack he does where he creates an orb and smashes it into you. I GOT STEAM ROLLED LIKE A FUCKING BITCH.
My Warrior always seemed to get a ton of rents even though most seem to say they dislike him.
All I did was give him armor that looked well together while still having good stats.
I always found him pretty useful, always knocked shit down and seemed to connect fine with his skills. His inclinations were pretty much to to run in and hit the biggest dude.
>>319668935
>>319669807
>Add on the augments on top of that, and the difference between being balanced and minmax aughtism is tiny.
Calling bullshit on this. The accumulation of stats from leveling greatly affects your final damages
>>319669949
As long as you don't use Arc of Deliverance, it's fine.
>>319669949
>All I did was give him armor that looked well together while still having good stats.
Maybe it only looked good to you.
>>319669949
That is the best warrior. His job isn't about doing damage, its crowd control. I'd rather have a warrior like yours that will keep the mobs busy while I cast or shoot my bow over any other kind.
A month ago when I created a new arisen, I ran into two people duking it out in Gran Soren on my way to the black cat, it was the first time I've ever seen npcs fight each other.
I stood there and watched them, they both had just one punch attack.
Eventually one of them got knocked down, then stood up, they both greeted each other and left in opposite directions.
And I proceeded to laugh uncontrollably, I really did not expect the game to still surprise me.
>>319670315
>35 days and 11 hours until January 15th
>>319670458
Shit I wish I took a screenshot, I was just too mesmerized by the fight.
>>319669807
>end game gear will make up like 75% of your damage.
What matters is the difference between that and the enemy defense. Min maxing does have an effect because BBI enemies have monster stats.
>>319644664
>Assassin makes maximum use of the enemy climbing mechanic
Strider is better at climbing shit
>>319670315
>>319670458
Is there something that prompts this to occur? It'd be fun to pit citizens against one another.
>>319670787
Strider has a hidden climb speed buff, 50% faster if I remember correctly.
>>319670694
They do it at another location as well. This is near the inn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EioUJCiy7_Q
>>319644664
is this going to be another one of those meme games where people claim its good when its really the worst fucking game ever made like idiot souls
>>319671326
Hello 2012.
>>319671326
Just go.
>>319670065
"Greatly" in the context of other stats, perhaps. But in terms of your overall damage accumulated by your weapons, augments and equipment that boosts damage, stats are irrelevant and are just there to lend flavour to the multiplayer so not every pawn and arisen is exactly the same.
>>319670863
>Is there something that prompts this to occur?
Booze.
>>319671326
>>319671627
It still makes things die faster, anon. I don't get why that's so hard to accept.
>>319671904
You can use Magick Rebalancer or Periapts and do way more damage in a few seconds and that won't involve you autistically grinding as one class for 199 levels.
The main thing is to stop retards here telling new players to "watch your stats" or "choose magical or physical only!" and persuading them to not enjoy the goddamn game because someone lied to them and said they aren't allowed to use half of the vocation pool or "you'll fuck up your character!", which ironically they then proceed to do by gimping their health gain.
>>319672370
Stop procrastinating and finish that job application.
>>319652723
>>319652920
Its gonna feel do great having a god tier sorcerer pawn since all the new people will have no idea what they are doing. Gonna rack up that RC and rating.
>>319671904
I made a minmax sorc leveled MA. Stuff did die fast, but I couldn't take too many hits, I had to pack at least 50 large mushrooms for BBI because I was always struggling for stamina, and I had a hard time with any melee even with perries (enemies like direwyvern, where the heart is between the wings, are still best taken down with stabbing). I remade it by playing sorc for 60 levels, then strider up until level 130 where I switched to MA, and I just felt so much better. Needed an extra cast of ninefold bolt or so, but the tradeoff in damage for everything else was more than worth it for me.
>>319672370
see ya
I wish they would put the Dragon's Dogma Online classes into the original game, too. Seeker is too amazingly fun to stay locked to that nipnong chingchong grindfest.
>>319672673
what does it do?
Does this game have some sort of respec?
>>319672779
No, because you don't need one.
>>319672338
Funny thing, when I first engaged in DD threads they were full of guides to level effective characters and minmaxing. Then we came to the relaxed "do that vocation and then that vocation and you are redy to go"-phase. It seems we now entered the stubborn realm of "you better do everything or you won't have fun!"
I'm curious if new players on the pc will turn this around to a new form of autism.
Started over again because my last save got corrupted, but I'm just wondering what class and traits I should give my pawn. I've played through it before, but I don't really know what kind of traits I should give a pawn to make it good. Any tips?
>>319672721
It's basically assassin-lite with a grappling hook. You can flip off large enemies to avoid attacks and before you hit the ground, zip to other locations and continue attacking. It's really awesome gameplay.
Fuck I wonder if they ever got rid of the IP ban, I want to play that game again now.
>>319673007
This depends on so many things, like what you are aiming for, how much do you are set on training your pawn, what vocation you play.
Avoid guardian.
>>319672545
Sry lad got my Dominatrix Sorceress already completely planned out and ready to move from paper to screen.
The shekels are mine.
>>319673007
Sinew is always good, extra carry weight for BBI is always helpful. Beyond that, for physical classes clout is good, and for casters the magick version of clout (forget the name) for better damage. For a sorc pawn, the augment to reduce cast times, and the wyrmkings ring.
>>319671627
You're comparing with a fully upgraded ultimate weapon. To get one in the first place you've already beaten the toughest content. You should should do this again but with the kind of stats that a character might start the DLC with, for example try doing it for a level 100 character using the weapon rewarded for defeating Grigori.
Also, don't forget to take into account the difference you start stacking buffs etc. A 352 damage difference multiplied up with augments and periapts could probably exceed 1000 damage without a problem.
And don't forget the damage formula which is primarily subtractive. An enemy with say, 1000 defense will take 1 damage from attacks dealing 1000 damage or less but if you attack for 1100 damage then you will deal 100 damage per hit. While your attack rating may only be 10% higher, you're hitting for 100x more damage. A pretty extreme example with made up numbers, but it does need to be taken into account.
>>319673225
Thing I'm going to get myself a healer slut, but I don't know what traits I should give her to make her not fucking die all the time.
>>319673302
My waifu won't lose to some bimbo, friend
>>319673345
Thanks
>>319673403
>A 352 damage difference multiplied up with augments and periapts could probably exceed 1000 damage without a problem.
This is why min-maxing does so much, although it's a lot less now since DA brought down the multiplier cap. I believe the total cap was 140%?
The bigger your base number, the bigger the multiplicative effect, obviously.
>>319673416
Fortunately healsluts don't need much training when they should concentrate on healing and buffing. I think utilitarian as primary would be a good idea, as secondary medicant, challanger or mitigator. I would avoid nexus and scather. You could also listen to this guy >>319673345
and let your mage spend some time as sorcerer. Make this as soon as possible and your pawn will get those sweet augments fast. Maybe don't start as mage but strider, for better stamina, or fighter, for more defense or hp.
There is no best way to level and train pawns, though. Do what you think would be best.
>>319672370
>I base my perceptions of games on the opinions of others and spend all of my time on /v/, shitposting.
>>319661871
>those hips
>man
Either go get your eyes checked or grow some balls son, that there is made for breeding.
>>319673543
Ok
gonna remake my sorceress pawn who has a bit of muscle on her, not bodybuilder levels but visible abs with a nice mystic outfit that displays them good
Can't wait for new memes, it's always the best thing when a game is re-released on PC.
>>319671627
That only talks about attack stats. What about stamina and hp?
I think those two are the most important stats.
>>319654291
That dialogue sounds edgy as fuck.
>>319674076
after what he went through, he has every right to be
>>319674076
Welcome to Berserk.
>>319674207
The first few chapters were edgemaster, but he seemed ok further in.
>>319674290
>lost children arc
>he seemed ok further in
he only started mellowing out again after he got his jrpg party
>>319674426
He was mellowing out when he got Casca back, it just came by faster when he had other people to give a shit about.
>>319646685
>not posting the futa version
You make me sad, anon.
>>319668935
I best him last night. So good
>>319673823
The only change I remember from DA is the assassin Augments getting hit hard and exhileration being reduced.
Taking 4x Periapts, Bloodlust, Autonomy, Exhileration, Clout, Vehemence into consideration and using the difference between minimum strength and maximum strength growth of 698:
698*1.2*1.2*1.2*1.2*1.2*1.2*1.35*1.2*1.1
= 3,714 damage
Oh, and if you are an assassin using a bow and force hatchet your fully charged hatched gives all that a 2x multiplier.
Oh and you can also stack pre-emption into that for another 2x multiplier.
=14,856
Not to mention that's nerfed against the original release which would come out at 33,128 damage.
>>319675276
>The only change I remember from DA is the assassin Augments getting hit hard and exhileration being reduced.
The total cap for multipliers was also lowered, that's why you have to actually be specific in the order you place them now, I believe.
I know for a fact that you can't stack all strength augments because they eventually hit the cap and stop being counted
>>319668935
>>319673543
Wow this is valuable information my life is better knowing that you are "done"whatever the fuck that may meanbecause someone said something on the Internet.
Can I have a link to your tumblr blog so I can look at a list of other stuff you are "done" with?
>>319668935
>YFW when walk into Daimon's chamber for the second time
>>319650556
I played a sorcerer with a fighter pawn. She was able to perfect block every tick in a dragon's fire-breath attack. Shit was crazy and I don't even know where she got it from, but it made me sad she couldn't be a mystic knight.
>>319676531
You can stop posting it in every thread. Whoever wanted to save it probably already has.
>>319676531
Stop posting this, she doesn't even look good. She has a neck vagina like Fat Bastard at the end of Goldmember.
>>319676531
This is a Pedo-Free Zone™, please excuse yourself from the area
So is
>1-10 Mage
>11-100 Ranger
>101-200 Sorcerer
still considered the best balance build for MA? Was probably going to stick with that on PC.
>>319676676
>>319676719
>>319676830
just a jape
>>319677008
But at level 200 you plan to have fun, right?
>>319677008
>playing near 100 levels as ranger
>player 100 levels as sorcerer
Just so you can go MA? How do you live?
killme.jpg
>>319677008
Dude just play MA whenever. If you wait til your lvl 200 to start you'll be burnt out. Stop worrying about minmax.
>>319673007
Keep in mind that pawns are only as smart as their AI and that you can revive them infinitely.
So things that increase their defenses/health or mobility aren't really that useful, they'll just warp to you like Watson if you leave them behind, and if they die you just press B for an instant 50% heal.
You also need to keep in mind their quirks, like how they never tank hits when they're casting spells, so something to make their stagger resistance better during casting may seem useful, but actually never gets used. Articulacy however will let them get spells off before the attacks get to them, so is obviously better.
If say, you give them an augment that increases they damage output at low health, then they'll probably end up using it more often than you will.
Pawns are pretty flexible with the augments you can use, moreso than your Arisen which will pretty want to stick with Mobility augments.
>>319672905
>"you better do everything or you won't have fun!"
lol that anon quit min maxing and became a scold, now they can scream at people instead of crying about numbers
>>319677008
Min/max just to level 100. 101-200 doesnt offer enough change and by the time you reach 200 youll be sick of the game and so overpowered wont want play anymore.
>>319672905
>plan a balanced Magic Knight
>play 5 classes you like on the way to level 200
I pity muh damage min/max fags.
Assassin is EZ mode, sorcerer sucks ass and mystic knight is disappointing unless they changed something in the pc version
>>319679778
>min/maxing in a single player RPG
top kek
Is the magic archer any good for a first-timer?
>>319680267
Yeah it's pretty crazy and fun, especially when you need to fight that one fucking iron golem
>>319654650
School got in the way, sadly. Recently moved out and I'm going crazy catching up on PS3 games I missed out on.
Was about to buy this too until I heard about the PC port.
>>319679901
>Unless they changed something in the pc version
The game doesn't freeze if you hit multiple Great Cannons in quick succession.
>>319677706
>So things that increase their defenses/health or mobility aren't really that useful, they'll just warp to you like Watson if you leave them behind, and if they die you just press B for an instant 50% heal.
This is the worst advice post I've seen in a long time,
>>319679778
Post your build, faggot
>>319680567
Dont have access to my files right now but the vocations used are Fighter, Ranger, Magic Knight, Assassin and Sorcerer.
