Why aren't you playing Dwarf Fortress right now, /v/?
can't figure it out
and it's not the ascii, i play tons of crawl. it's the mechanics. one day i'll learn but until then...
Because I'm in the middle of a furry ERP. Browsing 4chan between posts. Dorf fort does sound fun though. I'll do that when I'm done. Thanks, OP.
>>319637652
Just play along some YT lets play.
It's really not that hard to get basic shit done and starting to have FUN!
>>319637232
Never played, but i have read about it. I have see a project to convert the map to 3D. But i would like to play a sci-fi game with the same complexity as Dwarf Fortress. Can you help me op ?
>>319637775
>I have see a project to convert the map to 3D
this was what minecraft was supposed to be
I usually play it for a small period at least once a year so I probably will soon.
>>319637652
You just need a good guide. There's no point trying to figure it out from scratch, it's just inefficient. If I can build a -well-crafted- fortress you can to.
>>319637775
>But i would like to play a sci-fi game with the same complexity as Dwarf Fortress
Closest I can think of is the Fallout mod for Dwarf Fortress. It was pretty well fleshed out but it's for an older version.
There's Rim World too but nowhere near as complex as DF.
>>319637775
>But i would like to play a sci-fi game with the same complexity as Dwarf Fortress.
There are none, unfortunately. But you might mod it to reflect what you want, if you have the patience.
You can already play with 3D to help you visualize things.
>>319637775
There's Stonesense that you run alongside the client which allows you to see your game with improved graphics, if not 3D. It's not real time but you sort of refresh it to view 'snapshots' of your game.
Not exactly what you want but it's probably the closest we'll get.
>>319637871
Huh? I don't remember Notch saying anything like that and I was playing Minecraft when it was pre-alpha. Unless you mean it's what everyone WANTED it to be then yeah I agree.
>>319637232
Because I already buried over 300+ military dwarves due to crashing them into enemy forces with almost no armor.
Although my coffin industry is flourishing, its getting dull cleaning up the battlefield then assigning next 40 dwarves to suicide squads.
Waiting for 42.03 now that fixed armor wearing bug.
>>319638417
I haven't played since the last big patch. Is the military less or more fucked up than before?
>>319638417
>Although my coffin industry is flourishing, its getting dull cleaning up the battlefield then assigning next 40 dwarves to suicide squads.
Suicide bomb squads when?
>>319637232
It doesn't interest me.
>>319637232
Therapist support for latest version yet?
Did the latest version unfuck sieges, making them more frequent, numerous and harder again?
>>319638417
>not using a fuckton of war dogs as your military
>>319637232
Because I'm not a fucking casual.
>>319637232
waiting for therapist and dfhack
>>319638546
Military is quite easy now, or I really got used to it.
Pop 10-30 people in a squads, preferably by using dwarf therapist where you can easily assign them custom profession "Soldier" with premade set of skill (I like stuff like pump operating, then I setup a "gym" in the barracks).
And in 2-3 years of them training, you will have legendary solder squads no problem, as training is working properly now, and danger rooms exploit has been nerfed.
>Just gotta wait for 42.03 to deploy, this has been fixed in it:
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=9156
>>319638950
Sorry but losing all of your army on a single confront. It sure doesn't sound good either.
>>319638864
They all actually got slaughtered by a siege of 50+ undead from a nearby necromancer tower.
That was one of my first sieges at start of 42.01, before I realized the armor bug.
Managed to get my hands on a pair of breeding Grizzly Bears though, already got like 5 cubs growing up.
>War Bears soon fellow anon!That reminds me, there really should be a mod that lets you craft barded armor for your War Animals.
>playing a fortress for more than 3 hours
>>319639190
Considering the latest version introduced different craftable armours for your visitors that should be really easy to mod now
What about >>319638778 though, can I slaughter all the gobbos again?
>>319637232
I've finished it for several times. Have seen all the endings.
>>319639251
>new fort
>do my best to minimize fps loss
>runs well for a while
>suddenly just fucking tanks because of some conflicting pathfinding somewhere
>can'd figure out the problem
Waiting for DFhack and dwarf therapist to be updated to the latest version
>>319639359
>seen all the endings
HE MADE PEACE WITH THE ELVES!
>>319639317
>can I slaughter all the gobbos again?
I made a simple world, checked if it had goblin population, and embarked randomly.
So far (~10 years ingame) I've had 1 undead siege, and like 6+ goblin sieges amassing to over 800+ goblin/troll corpses and their gear I had to haul around!
I really regret not setting up a trash compactor room (drawbridge) to smash all the items/corpses. Its bloating all over the place, my frames are taking a hit.
>>319639462
>>319639462
>>319639462
>>319639462
HERESY
>>319639534
Oh boy, we're in again, thanks
>>319639359
>MADE PEACE WITH ELVES
Can i still craft limestone trinkets until i get a legendary craftsdorf and sell the masterwork crap for everything the traders bring in?
how many dorfs can i have in my fort before FPS starts dropping to unmanageable levels?
>>319639807
It depends on how well you manage the space and your items
You can make a 100pop fort tank like hell if you leave clutter and fluids everywhere, make 1x pathways, leave a billion animals running around and so on
>>319639719
Yee, but it will just be huge bloated boxes with 100s of trinkets that in total worth come up to a single stack of well made meals.
If you want to profit, bring a really skilled chef with you, make most amazing food pots to send back with caravans, and a single pot is usually enough to buy half a caravan including all their raw food so you can make more prepared meals.
Or hit a gold nugget veins, have train a guy in metalcrafting, then churn out golden shit worth 5k dorfbucks a piece.
>>319639915
>tfw hitting a gold nugget vein
WE'RE GONNA BE RICH
>>319639807
Small world, 3x3 embark, no waterfalls here.
300+ dwarfs/animals/cave shit running around, still stable and playable framerate.
42.xx seems way more optimized then 40.xx to me.
>>319638864
>once made a fortress which the only defenses were a drawbridge / moat with an absurd amount of war dogs
>feeling extremely confident in my war dogs once I had about 60 of them and just zergling rush enemies
>a cyclops shows up
>RELEASE THE HOUNDS
>mfw practically all of them just get knocked to the side, explode and thrown around
>one three of the dogs actually landed a bite
>>319640072
Only about three of the dogs*
>That SHIT color scheme
>>319637775
Try Aurora aka. the DF of 4XIt's not actually as complex as DF, but it gets close and is at least as confusing for beginners
>>319640072
Yeah, if you want a beast military you got to get to the caverns and capture/train/breed a lot of stuff, like cave crocodiles
Dogs are nice for gobbos but that's about it
>start fort
>things running smoothly
>start digging for weapons grade material
>SILVER
>COPPER
>where the fuck is the iron
>what do you mean i need flux to make steel
>gobbos arrive
>didnt make enough cage traps
>1 goblin gets past
>didnt know about danger rooms back then
>my militia spent a grand total of 10 minutes of sparring practice during the entire time they were acttive
>armed from head to toe in full copper panoply
>it does jack shit
>they might as well be swinging bananas with their copper swords
>if they even manage to hit anything
that was probably my 5th fort
>>319640216
Silver is incredibly dense material and makes for great bashing / blunt weaponry
I got Rimworld, Im good, thanks for the offer but Im not insane enough to play DF.
>>319637232
i hate moods
i hate having to examine each dorf of their attributes to match them with the job they're best suited to every damn time i need some new position filled
>>319639017
>and danger rooms exploit has been nerfed.
Oh thank christ. I always refused to use that but the alternative was fucking around with marksdwarves and relying on traps.
I haven't played serious since 40d
i wanna get back in but maaaaaaaaaan
>>319640216
You probably had tin too, could have made some fancy bronze which is best anyhow
Steel just trivializes the game
>>319638183
Space station13 is but its primarily because it's held together by bits of string and big league chew bubble gum as well as an interface less user friendly than a logsplitter in a gloryhole
>>319640216
>make another fort
>manage to stabilize after initial starvation scare after 2 diggers fell from a channel collapse and died of thirst because they had all of the pickaxes
>once again, thriving early-mid level fort
>but completely neglect military
>minotaur shows up
>havent even built traps yet
>oh shit
>enlist every fighting age dorf into the militia with a heavy heart
>order them to attack the minotaur
>one of them actually gets a lucky hit in and the minotaur falls unconscious
>dorfs are now pounding at the passed out minotaur with their tiny calloused fists
>combat log filled with shit like THE MINOTAUR'S HORN HAS BEEN DENTED
>this goes on for a good two minutes on max FPS
>minotaur finally dies after what i think was 25-30 pages of combat worth of dorf punching
>check rapist
>get 20 free master fighters
>>319640042
Performance is definitely better but it's nothing compared to a proper setup.
More tips both for performance and general good fortress management
Make lots of bins/barrels for storage, cages for animals (cats)
All hallways should be 2 tiles wide as standard to help with traffic (but still lets you put up doors/traps flush)
The best defense is still the faithful moat and drawbridge, be sure to dig out your channel and make it 2 tiles deep. Extremely performance friendly defense that works on most threats.
Instead of getting wacky with defenses just put cage traps at key intersections and your fortress's entrance hallway, takes care of most enemies.
Don't have workshops set to infinitely craft something unless you plenty of storage.
It's not a bad idea to make small specialized storage designations right next to your workshops. By decentralizing storage and keeping things close you cut WAY down on foot traffic. Makes for a cleaner and performance friendly fortress. Having storage everywhere isn't very pretty but it's effective.
My latest strategy for extra movement/storage is to clone each floor, make the one below it the same hallway layout (with regular access stairs between the two) and use the same room layout but with storage. Dorfs on specific hauling errands will use the service floor plus you get a massive amount of space to store stuff. Also super performance friendly.
>>319639675
That punk motherfucker probably didnt purposefully breach hell with a 200 strong military either
>want to replay df
>remember underground caverns
i dont want to be bullied by batmen and trolls
>>319640784
>Instead of getting wacky with defenses just put cage traps at key intersections and your fortress's entrance hallway, takes care of most enemies.
>being a faggot elf
>>319637732
what's a really good one?
preferably someone who enjoys reading what the dorfs are doing.
>>319640216
Stick with hammers if you don't have at least iron weapons. Blunt damage has a lot of benefits, a lot of times the enemy will get a broken bone early on and pass out from the pain. To sever limbs and other serious stuff on armored foes requires at least iron/steel + training.
Quick militia tip: train them as wrestlers first it's safe, fast, free and boosts a lot of relevant combat stats.
>>319640803
>200 strong military
Might as well be sending children against the demons. 200 just won't cut it.
Because I wish it had a UI like Gnomoria. It's not exactly hard to implement a decent gui, the dev just wants to keep it underground and difficult to play.
can you have a waifu when you play adventure mode?
>>319637232
I am too busy with Armored Commander.
>>319641058
Toady does not give a single fuck about you or anyone else that plays DF
I will never understand why people find DF hard to learn. It was my first roguelike, and all i needed was the incredibly good wiki to help me out in the beginnings. You literally don't need anything else.
Well, i did use a tileset, but that's because ASCII gives me a headache.
New version of Dwarf The Rapist when?
>>319640863
I love creative defenses as much as the next dorf but you should always have a line of cage traps in case the experimental stuff fails. Having reliable backup plans in DF just makes it even more interesting when those too fail.
>>319641058
The learning curve is about 10~ hours to know all the basic commands. That's quite a bit but not much worse than more traditional complex RPG's. Once you get the hang of keyboard controls it's faster than clicking stuff.
>>319637232
woah, when did it start to look that good?
i remember it being this black and white ocean of ascii in a tiny as fuck non resizable window.
>>319641225
Yeah, I generally have a number of them ion front of the living quarters of my map, but not enough to stop an actual serious force should I fuck up
>>319641186
https://github.com/splintermind/Dwarf-Therapist/releases
Now, you lazy bastard.
>>319641163
the ui doesnt make it easy when the numbers get exponentially high
its why people use therapist and other 3rd party programs
>>319641314
That's a tileset, there are a handful of good ones to choose from.
>>319641058
It is probably hard to design a UI when less than half of the planned game features have even been implemented, plus another big chunk that aren't planned and will just end up making it into the game anyway
>>319641163
I just used the utter newbie guide, ran through the fortress in like 3 hours and was ready to go after that
Of course there was still plenty of stuff to gradually learn but that's just DF
>>319641225
>batman tier contigency plans
>still thwarted byFPS death
I guess we never can run from entropy
tfw youre way too dumb to ever play DF
>>319641345
Thank you, you magnificent bastard
>>319637232
/v/ is casual
If you want like minded friends, visit /pc/ too
>>319641495
It's easy bud, you just need to throw your dim brain against the game for a few hours and you'll eventually bruteforce it
>>319641225
>human traders arrive on my depot to trade
>they have a handful of adamantium pickaxes for trade
>flood trade depot and steal their shit
>>319641527
>uppercase in a url
triggered
>>319641495
DF isn't about intelligence, it's about memorization
>>319641063
plz respond ;_;
>>319641623
I always set up my trade depot as a slaughterhouse, generally by putting fortifications as walls to train my marksdorfs
And those dumb fucks just keep returning
>>319641552
I've tried to get into it like 5 times in 5 years
I always get to the gameplay stage and then i simply dont know what to do
I guess i should look up some youtube videos or actually read the DF wiki
>>319641767
You can't marry anyone AFAIK but you can forcefully tear her clothes off and have her still like you
>>319641758
memorization is a form of intellect.
Redpill me on weapons, /v/.
I always make spears because that's my favorite weapon. How much am I gimping my dorfs fighting capabilities?
>>319637232
Because I'm waiting for, at least, the 1.0 version.
In fact, I think I'm going to die of old age before playing any roguelike because I only play games when they are finished.
>>319641807
Just bookmark the wiki and one of the guides for the basic keyboard commands. Then play. When you fail, and you will a lot at first, just figure out why you died and how to prevent it.
Before you know it you'll have 100+ dorf forts and have crazy stories of your own to tell.
>>319641807
>going in blind
You absolute madman
Only the most dedicated of autists are able to learn this from scratch, without aid
>>319641892
An aspect, but not the whole. You can be dumb as a brick yet learn to play DF unless you got alzeimers or something
>>319641640
the 4 in 4chan has always been uppercased too, and you don't complain
>>319641836
soundsgud
I hope toady implements marriage in adv mode sometime
>>319641953
>uppercase numerals
>>319641902
Spears are pretty good
Smashy smahsy axes and maces and hammers are cooler though
>>319641927
Yeah , i guess. It seems really fun.
And it would be perfect if i could play it atwork.
>>319641934
5 t i m e s
>goblin crossbowmen
HELP
>>319641902
generally all melee weapons are good
but you would want to train crossbowdworfs for your army
>>319637232
Waiting for bugfixes and the rapist.
>>319641902
Spears are good against living beings with many vital organs.
But against undead or metalic monsters, they're utter shit
>>319641902
Spears for organ damage
Axes and swords for slicing and cutting
Hammers for breaking bones
Each is good for certain things. For instance, do not use slicing weapons on undead unless you want to turn one zombie into one zombie, an undead hand, undead foot, and undead hair attacking you.
>>319642187
>tfw first undead siege
THEY MULTIPLY
>post yfw you learned about bins
Are War Hounds any good in Dwarf Fortress?
I kinda want to play just so I can breed up like a hundred and whenever I get attacked yell RELEASE THE HOUNDS
>>319642250
What's there to learn about?
>Third fortress or so
>Fend off two forgotten beasts, two megabeasts, three goblin sieges, bronze colossus, three werebeasts and a countless number of other monsters
>Never going to run out of food or drink
>Feel like I've won the game
>>319642250
you should also learn how to stop making your crafters AND MINERS haul shit for increased efficiency have your idlers do it
>scary biome
>butcher a horse for food
>INTERRUPTED BY REANIMATED HORSE HAIR
>INTERRUPTED BY REANIMATED HORSE HOOF
>INTERRUPTED BY REANIMATED HORSE EYELID
>INTERRUPTED BY REANIMATED HORSE HAIR
>INTERRUPTED BY REANIMATED HORSE HOOF
>INTERRUPTED BY REANIMATED HORSE EYELID
>INTERRUPTED BY REANIMATED HORSE HAIR
>INTERRUPTED BY REANIMATED HORSE HOOF
>INTERRUPTED BY REANIMATED HORSE EYELID
>INTERRUPTED BY REANIMATED HORSE HAIR
>INTERRUPTED BY REANIMATED HORSE HOOF
>INTERRUPTED BY REANIMATED HORSE EYELID
>dorfs literally cant sleep because of the EVIL REANIMATED HORSE TOOTH
>they die from stress
>>319641902
Spears are decent in adventure mode but I would avoid them in fortress mode except for weapon traps (where they are awesome). CPU dorfs like to use their weapons in all the different possible ways, so they end up bashing with the spear instead of stabbing half the time. Not good.
Generally you want to stick with hammers and axes. Hammers are great for poverty fortresses with no hope of steel or possibly even iron. If you're getting into steel or higher I recommend axes for sure.
Biggest hammer advantage - can break bones (and skulls) through armor, causing fast unconsciousness from pain. Their downside is enemies are generally capable of fighting well right up until that one big blow ruins their day.
Axes advantage - Like I said above CPU's swing them every which way, which for axes works great. Even the broad side of an axe is a decent blunt weapon. For hacking and slashing their mass helps them beat out swords in general. Biggest downside: axes usually don't break bones so no enemies blacking out in pain. They usually hit a leg though which puts an enemy on the ground, almost as good, therefore I say axes are #1 for your military with hammers a close second.
Read up on the DF wiki for weapon traps. 10x spear in each individual trap is a slaughter for anything dumb enough to walk through it. You want pure piercing damage in traps since you never know what kind of tough/armored foe will pass through eventually. Don't use axes and swords in traps, all the severed limbs can jam them.
>>319642270
They're great cannon fodder which may get in the occasional hit. No real downside to having them.
>military interface
>>319642250
My autism won't let me use bins. I need to see RIGHT AWAY what's in my stockpile, not browse throught a bin
>>319642498
>>319638226
Stonesense was actually able to run realtime as a GUI overlay last version, but won't until DFhack is up again.
>>319642498
Joke's on you I bruteforced it and now it's my buttslave
>>319641056
200 Dorfs is more than enough when you send in the ocean first to soften things up.
>set up training room
>send militia inside
>pull lever
>RED RED RED
>oh shit who died
>check military
>everyone still alive
>check combat log
>one of the militia was carrying a baby at the time
>>319642448
Unless you accidentally took someone's pet
>>319637232
Waiting for next release to commit to a fortress because of numerous important bugfixes like horse-lag and military equipment.
Should be coming Saturday.
>>319641107
Some day, tanks shall become properly modable in DF...
>>319642631
cages nigga
>>319642386
Now you should try moving to an evil region.
>>319639017
>danger room exploit has been nerfed
I'm going to miss this.
All things considered, yeah, it was a silly exploit, but the idea of locking a bunch of hapless idiots in a room full of traps was always entertaining.
>>319637232
Outgrown this game unfortunately. No real challenges anymore when you learn trap defence, military is not really an option with all that randomly made bullshit creatures game throws at you, performance is total shit and I don't bother about procedural world generation autism. Doesn't help that visuals are just unexusable in 2015.
>>319642734
speaking of regions
how the fuck do you make water in a tundra?
everything is fucking ice
>>319642270
Hook war dogs to chains and keep them around your entrance, stops thieves from sneaking in. Dogs are just "ok" in combat, you're better off just keeping them chained out front to soften up any serious attacks because they're not dependable enough to be an effective main force.
>>319642401
Always disable all hauling tasks for miners and other important dwarves. Their immediately become way more efficient.
>>319642593
Once you have streams of migrants coming in it's a smart move to put all the women in a burrow then lock it down and let them starve to death or something. Without females dorfs do not create families, it preemptively stops tons of unhappy thoughts and helps prevent tantrum spirals.
Same concept, never let them idle in your meeting haul and throw parties. The less social your population is they happier they tend to be. The moment they form connections with each other it's nothing but heartbreak the moment some DF shit goes down.
>>319642802
What's that? All I hear is:
>I was too much of a baby to breach hell
>>319642826
Caves first of all. There's some trick to melting water but i don't remember what it was
>>319642802
>No real challenges anymore when you learn trap defence, military is not really an option with all that randomly made bullshit creatures game throws at you
Anon sounds like you're a babby
>>319642853
>The less social your population is they happier they tend to be.
That's deep, man.
>>319642853
>Once you have streams of migrants coming in it's a smart move to put all the women in a burrow then lock it down and let them starve to death or something. Without females dorfs do not create families, it preemptively stops tons of unhappy thoughts and helps prevent tantrum spirals.
reminded me of /pol/ for some reason
It's a badly designed mess.
>>319642956
DF has always been the frontier of eugenics and social experiments
Why should hallways be 2 spaces wide instead of 1?
Doesn't that in theory double the pathfinding routes instead of reduce it?
>>319640146
My nigga.
The fact that it doesn't work with WINE makes me sad.
>Try new fort
>Only one male dwarf in embark, 6 females
>I know who's gonna be my self insert
>Start fort
>He's a fucking homosexual
When was that even added?
>>319642947
So you can kill demons with an army?
100 stack of huge size creatures which can be generated from weapon grade metal which your dwarves will never cut through, given they will even hit them past that grandmaster dodging skill? Are you autistic?
>>319642593
Every time.
Funnily enough it's even good for your militia if you murder all their children. It means that future deaths won't impact them as much. So so long as they admired a masterful table lately killing their babies is a good way to train hardened killing dorfs.
>>319643150
If your army is big and well equipped enough, sure
Also hell is not the only source of enemies in the game you know
>>319643124
install real OS
>>319643018
I just worry about a day when speciesmixing will happen. Can you imagine all the /pol/ memes and shitposting it will cause? I find /pol/ memes funny, but please, not in DF
>>319643230
>I find /pol/ memes funny
I bet you shitpost in aoe2 threads
>>319637232
because I can't figure out how to do fucking anything
the "FUN!" meme is fucking stupid, I shouldn't have to spend 300 hours trying to figure how to make my dwarves not kill themselves in their own shit to have fun
the game does nothing to explain how anything does, even the most intelligent of autistic has to go through 50 damn tutorials just to grow a farm
this game, whatever it is and whatever it can be is just fine, but it was designed like complete ass
>>319643206
If army is big it's just more corpses to occur from syndrome from that cloud demons breathe.
>>319643272
No, because that's the lowest kind of meme. Screaming WE isn't witty or clever, nor is yelling C UCK at everything. It's basically "for you" tier
>>319643115
Dwarves will climb atop each other and make movement slower.
>>319643161
So the whole SS killing dogs they raised thing actually works in DF?
>captcha: waterfall
Fucking waterfalls
>>319643115
Every time they collide with each other in a 1 wide it has to calculate the collison and it slows them both down in-game for a moment. Going two wide usually fixes this. 3+ wide hallways aren't very efficient since they will rarely use the middle unless it's a straight shot, plus there should never be that much traffic in one spot to begin with.
>>319643115
If two dorfs pass on a 1 tile hallways one will have to crouch to get past, slowing them down, and I think they try to calculate an alternative route instead
>>319643329
You can be clever and make airlocks with squads
>>319643404
It would be too much hassle to assign dorfs puppies and then kill the puppies. It's better to murder their children and then siphon the blood to use in a blood cannon.
>>319643328
>b-p
>>319640853
>Urist cancels dig interupted by large cave spider
STONESENSE INTEGRATION AND UI OVERHAUL WHEN?
>>319643328
I can do the keyboard commands for a year-round farm the will sustain a fortress all in my head.
Here's the steps:
1. Lay out a 10x10 farm plot on regular soils one or two layers down (not the deep rock).10x10 is not the most efficient but who cares, it's fine for beginners.
2. Set it to grow plump helmets. Make sure you do it all four seasons and not just one, this is where most people screw up.
3. Set one of your starting dwarves as a grower and brewer. Don't worry about picking the food anyone will do that. This one will plant the seeds and make wine though.
4. Build a workshop Brewery next to your farm, make wine here
5. Storage next to farm too, designate it for food and wine only.
That's it, a single 10x10 farm can handle hunger and thirst for all small to medium sized forts. Seek out alternatives once you grow larger, or just make a second one of what I just typed out next to the first one.
Now, read up on moat/drawbridge defenses and also cage traps. With those defending your fortress you will nullify most threats. Congrats, your fortress now has lots of food, drinks and is safe, from here it's easy to mess around and learn more stuff.
It's a feature creep game with no core development. It's just stacking and stacking of more features with no real direction. He's been working on this game for almost a decade now and it still runs like shit and is plagued with bugs. It's a single update once a year, yet he's working full time on the game and getting paid 50k a year via patreon. Despite updates coming once a year, they're usually filled to the brim with bugs. Unplayable, gamebreaking bugs. There's really no excuse.
>>319642406
>oh hey it's raining
>oh what's this coming out of the river.
>oh it's 5 undead whale skeletons
>Odin send me some help you fucking coward
>>319643893
What would be an efficient farm setup, anyhow?
I've always just made ~5x5 farm plots all next to each other without actually thinking about it.
>>319638778
> Therapist support for latest version yet?
Yes, since yesterday.
The final phase of Dorffort neckbeardery.
If you find this funny:
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Scamps
>>319643978
Yet here we are lapping it all up.
>tfw every time I pick up dorf fort, I build a functional economy and get reasonable stockpiles of food for the first winter
>always run into the problem of running water, can't figure out how to get a functional well up in time for winter
>dwarves die because shit water
I just want to make water flow, man.
>>319643893
b->p
Resize is shift+U and K I think
q to select, a for spring, arrow to plump helmet, enter, repeat with b c d
Done
>>319644235
Embark next to a river
>>319643494
I tried dumping the bodies of all my dead dwarves, food scraps, random enemy skeletons and gear all into a 1 tile size garbage pit. The pit was down a shaft which also served as the chamber for a water cannon. When the cannon shot I figured all that crap would explode outwards like a macabre shotgun, perfect for taking out the unwanted noble of my choice whose bed I placed a few tiles in front of the muzzle.
Unfortunately water pressure in DF is very underwhelming, it did "fire" but it was more like a liquid garbage avalanche than a decisive blast. The noble escaped and I lost half my fortress to flooding as he left a trapdoor open on his way out.
>losing your entire dwarf population because of one thing you forgot
gee, you think they would have a thing where you can check your dwarves and it would say "dwarf idiot 1 wishes we had x" instead of having a MASS FUCKING SUICIDE unexpectedly because they didn't have x
>>319644235
>water
>water>water
Make some booze man, they don't need water
Your dorfs hate you
>>319644332
Can't clean wounds with booze or well I guess you can actually but still
>>319644298
You mean like them blinking with specific colous and symbols when they lack something
>>319644235
>making dorfs drink water
THE
ABSOLUTE
MADMAN
>>319644043
5x5 is just fine. 10x10 doesn't get used by even experienced growers. Some people do 3x3 but I've noticed it creates too many tasks and they don't get planted as reliably. Smaller plots are better for growing weird niche stuff in seasonal rotation. For plump helmets I usually use 7x7 which seems to be the sweet spot for zero maintenance mushroom hoarding once your growing team is experienced.
>>319644332
I thought most booze required water to make? Or maybe something that I need to make the booze in the first place. Or maybe my booze-making facilities were missing something.
>>319644270
I don't know why this didn't occur to me.
>>319644383
A few dorfs succumbing to infection doesn't really matter
Finally getting a working hospital stocked up on everything with a secure well feels pretty dope though
>>319644417
>some nigger wants some fucking admantium chair or some shit fuck that dude
>locked his ass in his room to die
>>319644528
You were missing pots to store your booze, probably
>>319637232
I don't think I'm autistic enough.
>>319644531
My hospitals more often then not resemble ss experimentation camps and the one time I had a nexromancer roll up I had a very very unpleasant experience and a very horrible odor from the basement
>>319644250
>>319644043
>>319643893
Adding on to this, make sure to set what items can and cannot be used for making meals and eating, set all seeds and plump helmets to restricted
>>319644546
It it's not a royal I'm always accidenting uppity nobles, fuck those guys
where can I get a copy of dwarf fortress?
>>319637232
It's way too easy once you understand the "mechanics" (read: UI)
>>319637232
Because I'm a retarded faggot who shouldn't be allowed near vidya or other human beings.
>>319644298
If a dwarf is about to go on a suicidal tantrum just set the doors to the room he's in as forbidden so he can't get out. Better to let one starve than many go crazy.
Sometimes the crazy ones get out though which calls for plan B. Make floodgates in your hallways at major intersections and link them all to a single lever in your meeting hall (best place for levers since there is someone nearby to pull it). The moment someone starts going insane pull that lever and lock that shit down before half your fort ends up in a brawl to the death. Keeping food/wine storage in little areas around your fort is advisable if you do a lock down strategy so everyone can wait it out while the offender starves to death or dukes it out with the handful of unlucky citizens that are now trapped with him.
>>319644287
There's ways and there's ways. The principle way being modding the way liquids work. It does work unmodded though. But you have to cannon them into something, such as a bottomless pit or lava.
>>319644779
Ayy lmao. 2cat.
>>319644235
What the fuck kind of sadist must you be to force dwarves to drink water?!
>>319644692
"Accidental" lava pump activation
>>319644903
I generally build a disaster bunker for my most important dorfs, with its own airlocks, supplies, traps, and a single entrance linked to a destruction trap
>>319637232
Because I've never played anything like it and I don't know how to get into it.
Listening to people talk about Dwarf Fortress is kind of like those /v/ threads where people act like they're playing a game that doesn't exist.
Like, cats dying because they cleaned themselves after alcohol got spilled on them sounds insane.
>>319644528
Make lots of wooden barrels. Learn about bins too.
>>319643494
>and then siphon the blood to use in a blood cannon.
disclaimer:
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>>319645001
Mountainhomes are dangerous places
>>319644546
"Ha! ha! ha! --he! he! he! --a very good joke, indeed --an excellent jest. We will have many a rich laugh about it at the mayor's office --he! he! he! --over our plump helmet wine --he! he! he!"
"The Adamantium!" I said.
"He! he! he! --he! he! he! --yes, the Adamantium. But is it not getting late? Will not they be awaiting us at the mayor's office, the Lady Urist and the rest? Let us be gone."
"Yes," I said, "let us be gone."
"For the love of Armok, Ilral!"
"Yes," I said, "for the love of Armok!"
But to these words I hearkened in vain for a reply. I grew impatient. I called aloud --
"Urist!"
No answer. I called again --
"Urist!"
No answer still. I thrust a torch through the remaining aperture and let it fall within. There came forth in return only a jingling of the bells. My heart grew sick; it was the dampness of the catacombs that made it so. I hastened to make an end of my labour. I forced the last stone into its position; I plastered it up. Against the new masonry I re-erected the old rampart of bones. For the half of a century no mortal has disturbed them. Losing is fun!
>>319637232
cause it looks like shit. I'm not really even a graphics fag but I don't have the imagination nowadays to turn a bunch of X's and O's on my screen into a major dwarf battle.
>>319645064
>image not (yet) possible
>>319645038
>Make lots of wooden barrels
>launghingpots.gif
>>319645028
That's pretty common you wait till we start talking about becoming a roaming nexromancer with no legs who crawls around with an army of undead feet murdering vampires dragons and 100 foot colossi
>>319645005
The ultimate bunker is to find a migrant who is a vampire and lock them in completely, 100% sealed off room by himself forever. They don't need blood it just keeps their stats up. Now if your fort dies off the crazy vampire stops the game from ending, just let migrant waves come in until the problem is resolved by force, chance, whatever. It's as close to an immortal fort as you can get.
>>319645175
In my last fort I had a walled in weredorf that spent about 20 years there
He eventually glitched through the walls and ruined my shit
>>319645064
Do you want vampires? Because that's how you get vampires.
>>319645104
>cause it looks like shit
every thread without fail.
I once descended into the sewers and emerged into a ruined tomb of some massive fag lord who proceed to summon some bullshit so I cut off his leg and in my attempt to escape I tripped down a hole and ended up in a literal burning underground hells cape and it was the scariest thing I've ever seen in a video game
>>319645289
no, how you get vampires is to have a dwarf throw a tantrum in a temple and topple a built object like a table or statue.
boom, dwarf gets cursed with vampirism or werebeastism.
>>319645391
> being a god of dirty peasants
> not sparkling gems
>>319645237
That happened to me too, my first vamp prison was a simple constructed wall and he popped through somehow. The second one I tried suspending in water underground but I didn't go deep enough and the water froze, he got out.
Now I put him in a chamber way off to the side, forbid the door then build a constructed wall in front of it. For good measure I flood the hallway around him and seal off the whole zone forever (the whole thing is 20x20 or so) which is probably overkill but hasn't failed me yet. Make sure not to mess up this situation, don't dig one Z level above or below the vamp.
I guess because I'm intimidated by the sheer learning curve of it. The bit style doesn't even bother me, I'm just overwhelmed every time I see this game.
Tell me about that time you accidentally flooded your fort, /v/.
>>319645084
Oh ho ho, you clever lil shit.
>>319645665
I forgot that water could travel up, so I accidentally flooded my entire hospital through a well when the water shot upwards.
>>319645559
what's there to be overwhelmed about?
>>319645310
>Gnomoria
Good god was that the biggest rip-off in videogames history. Original game do not steal.
>>319637232
Too busy playing the new CSGO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vj0ydWaCEw
>>319645665
I tried to pump water out of the brook in front of my fortress.
The entire time I was building it I kept thinking "I have no way to turn this off once it starts." but I kept making it.
Once the waters started flowing I tried to channel the ground in front of the flow to stop it from reaching the entrance, without realizing my tavern was one z-level below.
>>319645559
Once you know the basic keyboard commands the rest just falls into place, especially if you have the wiki open ready to look stuff up.
>>319645393
Necromancers are the worst. My adventure mode character is super strong but those assholes love running up to me out of nowhere and sending all of their undead peasants at me. Aim for the upper torso on zombies, this isn't Romero canon they can live just fine without a head. By pulverizing / bisecting / nearly-bisecting the torso it causes enough damage to put them down for good, leave the limbs attached so they can't operate independently.
The necromancers themselves are usually resilient too, if not strong. The last one who tried to attack me got a spear to the skull which got stuck in his head and he continued to live until a heart wound + pulling the spear out bled him dry.
>>319637232
Waiting for the current update to have to worst bugs fixed.
I really tried to get into Dorf fort make a few forst and put about 20 hours in but it never clicked for me, way too much micro management needed.
Diagnosed with ADD and un-medicated games like this are not for me no matter how cool the concept is. I'll stick with Quake and shit based on reflex and muscle memory.
Guess I'm a casual
>>319637232
I can't seem to ever find any iron ores, it's really annoying. Is there a way to set the search parameters to maximize my chance of finding iron ores?
>>319645729
That's flowchart proves my point.
>>319645665
Mist creates happy thoughts, I thought a decorative waterfall right in my meeting hall would make everyone happy. The few that didn't drown wandered the surface and soon went crazy and/or died from lack of alcohol and too much sunlight.
>>319645665
Once. When DF3D got released i had no idea that water pressure was a thing, was going to build a snazzy underground well.
>>319645865
>Diagnosed with ADD
ADD isnt real man up and concentrate
>>319645665
I very narrowly managed to avoid flooding my desert fort
now I remember to not assume deserts are devoid of water and to not dig upwards
Because I can't be bothered to waste my time on some shitty meme game
>>319645880
Are you digging 100% cleared rooms searching for ore veins? Slice through z levels with 1 wide hallways between 5-10 squares apart, whatever you like best for it to eventually become storage rooms. Until then the hallway templates let you discover lots of ores much faster than slowly making you way down with finished rooms.
>>319645665
Way back in god-knows-when build before the beginning of time I wondered what would happen if you just made the river flood everything. Turns out everything got flooded. The whole world. That was one hell of a river.
>>319646096
>meme game
Was 2cat the last great DF meme?
>>319645865
You're not a casual, you're just stupid.
>>319646194
Urist is the everlasting dorffort meme. Pure as native gold.
>>319646096
>>319646194
>>319646317
wondering something, has anyone ever used bronze for anything?
no matter what I do I can never find any amount of tin unless I'm also drowning in iron and flux
>>319646443
That's your own beef, mang. Sometimes you just get a bunch of pot metal and there isn't any iron. Then bronze is your lategame.
>>319646181
I've flooded the world and survived, locking down the fort right away stopped immediate destruction. I had manual pumps built that dwarves had to work on 24/7 (I had more than necessary since they suck at sticking with it) because the bottom floor had a few open doorways leading to the main body of water up through my side entrance, there was no way of ever closing it so I just had to keep pumping water out forever.
Eventually I constructed a floor over that and enjoyed a carefree fortress life stuck with water on all sides of me. My grand plan was to build a glass ceiling so sunlight could still come in and I could grow trees underground that way, unsurprisingly a construction accident finally wiped everyone out.
>>319646527
I get no iron forts to, its just that those tend to also be no tin forts so no bronze meaning I'm stuck with copper armor and silver warhammers
>>319638991
why would you need both?
dfhack already brings a therapist like interface - not to mention autolabor
>>319646443
Yep. Hope you like building lots and lots of weapon traps to make up for your slightly crappy no matter what army. Even if nobody brings ores just melt down trade goods, you should eventually get enough iron/steel that way to outfit your best soldiers.
>>319638183
space base df9
>>319646662
had a hilarious fort once with sand, magma and absolutely and utterly no useable metals what so ever
so the entire fort defense was endless rows of nothing but glass based weapon traps with a token militia armed with obsidian swords and bone bolt crossbows
felt very Aztec
2000 years in the future the world is a crumbling ruin of its former self.
A lone bastion of light stands against the forces of evil. It's tired dwarves man the walls against uncountable evils.
Every day a new horror rears its head only to be driven back by courage, ingenuity, and blood.
The guard commander stands at his post overlooking the burned and desolate landscape. The land sick with the blood of demons and worse. It has been centuries since any dorf has even opened the gate. The commander readies his one good arm against the mornings assault.
The bells ring, the bolts fly, the wall holds another day.
>>319637232
too busy playing my other autism stimulator
>>319647027
>felt very Aztec
You better have thrown the captives into that fucking volcano
>>319647068
spess update never ;_;
>>319646443
tin is basically one of the things you're forced to trade for, and just like in real life it's hilariously rare; it only appears as small clusters in alluvial layers and in veins... in granite.
which basically never happens unless you set your mineral scarcity to the lowest possible value.
of course if you can also trade for bismuth or bring it along at the start, you might as well go all the way and make bismuth bronze.
>>319637232
I forgot how. But I do remember how much of a pain in the ass it is to get things going for the first time.
And the fact that new shit got added frightens me.
>>319647125
made a pure obsidian temple right above the volcano opening for sacrificial purposes
>>319647529
apparently cats now die from alcohol poisoning if you let them into your taverns
>>319645084
what
>>319647687
Yeah, they roll around in the alcohol that dorfs spill everywhere and then have an automatic reaction to lick themselves clean, dying immediately.
>>319647529
>>319647710
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cask_of_Amontillado
>>319637659
I hope you're enjoying the knot anon
>>319637659
hot axes getting pounded on ancestral anvil 100% dwarven steel click here
>>319640894
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBrdUj1adIBD-vgUodaaxebcdqQ4oEWtg
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD1A3FE72C0DCAC66 (Dated, but good)
>>319637775
Spacebase df9
>>319648343
freshly mined ores take big black dwarven hammers
