Soon, PC friends.
post pits
Lightning is a goddess
Better not be a shit port like the last two.
>>319623831
Maybe that's what delayed it so much. They actually optimized this one.
>>319624075
I'll believe it when I see it.
>>319624075
I actually pity you if this is how gullible you are. 2 shitty ports and there are still people hoping, holy shit
how much
>>319624441
19.99
>>319623378
I tried playing FF XIII and I could not bear it.
I'm far more excited for that Disgaea Steam port.
>>319624389
I didn't say it was the case, I said maybe it is. I know there's a big chance it will be completely fucked.
I am actually in love with Lightning.
This bitch is built for SEX
Real talk I never played a JRPG before and I bought FFXIII since I thought it would be easy for newcomers because "it's a Hallway with no options".
I'm stuck on this Pope guy that transforms into a big robot thing and I can't beat him for shit, all my characters are leveles uo as far as rhey can go at this point too, but i didn't even grind for it. Any tips?
do people actually want that shit
>>319624959
yes
>>319624795
>no ass
>no muscle tone
I dunno what she's built for but it sure as hell isn't SEX
>>319624937
Goddamn.
>>319624959
Maybe a few
I couldn't even finish 13 on my 360
Literally no shits given about the series sonykeks pretend is good
>>319625049
Go back to your fatties
>>319624946
Do you have guys keeping buffs/debuffs up?
I'm going to marry lightning!
>>319624959
Anyone who buys this likes to waste money. Thats about everyone who has a steam account
>>319623602
>>319624946
If you ignored buffs and debuffs so far, now is the time to learn about them.
Too bad you have to do the quests to level up your character, it could have been a good game.
>>319624946
That fight was all about using the paradigm shift well. I'd suggest having a strong and rapid healing paradigm (MED, MED, SEN) for when he starts to use his big attacks.
That fight was a lot worse near the beginning when he had all the adds up, so I'd suggest making a paradigm focusing on a single target and take them out systematically, changing back to med med sen when you start to die.
Later on in the fight he'll start counting down basically, and if you don't interrupt him (by dealing a certain threshold of damage) before the end it'll kill everyone, so make sure to have a very aggressive paradigm too, like com com rav.
>>319625251
Not if I marry her first. I'm going to consummate in her armpit.
how much will it cost?
I still have to do my trails playthrough but this is up after that.
Combat is completely different in this one, isn't it?
>>319625238
Ah it's been a few months, but yeah I have one guy set for... whatever the buffing class is... Sentinel was it?
Yeah I'm going to need to pop in the game and get a refresher on my situation.
I didn't know if there was a recommended setup or anything.
What weapons would you recommend upgrading?
>>319624946
Honestly I would say XIII is one of the worse JRPGs for someone who has never played one. Yeah it's linear and simplistic as shit, but it's also not very intuitive. IV, VI, or VII would've been a better game to start with. Or Chrono Trigger. Chrono Trigger is literally the perfect babby's first JRPG, along with being just a great game in general.
A lot of people seem to get stuck on that boss battle though. I found you could easily beat him with the exact same strategy as basically every non-optional boss. Just switch to the right paradigm sets and you can pretty much mash autobattle if you want to.
>Sentinel/Synergist/Saboteur until your party is all buffed up and he's debuffed
>Switch to Commando/Ravager/Ravager or Commando/Commando/Ravager for damage
>Switch to Sentinel/Medic/Medic when someone's health gets low'
>Win game
>>319625470
20 dollars. There might be a 10% off deal too. Not sure.
>>319624959
the combat is fun and very twitch reaction-based, it suffers badly from having 15 fps on consoles when shit happens
>Out in 10 hours
>No price
Huh?
>>319624525
What didn't you like about it? I'm playing through it now and its really fun. Although it holds you hand WAY too much. The battle system doesn't start really opening up until like 15 hours in.
>>319625624
https://store.na.square-enix.com/product/293975/lightning-returns-final-fantasy-xiii-pc-download
>>319625401
Right I eliminated all those and I was in the phase where he does the instant death, I seem to knock it back once or twice but it always gets me.
So a healing paradigm and then one focused on offense.
Are certain characters better in certain roles?
>>319625624
it will be 19.99
>>319625570
What's even the fucking point of Com/Com/Rav?
Com does jack shit because it doesn't raise stagger gauge.
It's much better to have 3x Rav paradigm instead of Com/Com/Rav when you need to burst him and then switch to Com/Rav/Rav just when the gauge starts dropping too fast.
>>319625624
20$ according to Squeenix store.
https://store.na.square-enix.com/product/293975/lightning-returns-final-fantasy-xiii-pc-download
>>319625498
>What weapons would you recommend upgrading?
Belladonna for Vanille
Taming Pole for Fang
Hawkeye for Hope
Lightning has more than one good weapon, but Axis Blade seems to be the popular choice.
Sazh and Snow kind of suck before some endgame situations, so don't bother.
>>319624389
You never know. Aside from the 30FPS cap, the Type 0 port was pretty solid, and ran acceptably on a lot of systems. Then again, you really can't fuck up 30FPS.
The 13 games, on the other hand, were 30FPS raised to 60FPS. It's unacceptable for games to use framerate based logic, but also consider that Square has TWO upcoming games, KH3 and FF7R, powered by UE4. There's a few other Japanese games being made with UE4, such as SFV, Tekken 7, AC7, and I'm pretty sure Scalebound. XRD is also an UE4 game, I think. Does that mean they will see PC versions? Unlikely, but if they do come over, then it's somewhat guaranteed they won't be locked at 30 or 60FPS.
Imagine Senran with UE4.
>>319625852
There isn't much point, it's strictly worse than Commando/Ravager/Ravager or 3x Ravager. But it will still win pretty much any storyline battle with that strategy because XIII is easy as shit unless you completely ignore Synergist and Saboteur.
>>319623378
Fuck off. Telling those who use PC to get cancer just isn't right.
>>319625498
Synergist is the buff class. Yeah the first time I fought that guy I had probems too. I generally try to be offensive when I play and at that point Sazh is your nigga. Have him in the group to throw up all those awesome buffs (haste/bravery/faith). I think Hope learns haste/brave/faith but much later than Sazh. He gets defensive buffs first.
As far as which weapons to upgrade that depends on what you have your characters doing. If you have a character primarily as a commando give them a strength-focused weapon, if they are hopping between com/rav give them a balanced weapon. Although at that point you should be able to beat him without much upgrading.
>>319626191
retard
Thanks for the help guys I'll give it another shot after work.
>>319623378
Finally. I seriously hope they don't have some stupid fps lock like type 0 had.
>>319626071
You can still tie logic to framerate in Unreal. You'd have to be pretty silly to do it, but if you're cutting corners it can happen. Your point still stands though.
Also Xrd is Unreal Engine 3 somehow. I don't know how they managed to make pretty much the best looking animu-styled game of all time on UE3, but it happened.
>>319626741
Nah they said it was going to be 60fps so you dont need to worry about that
>>319625049
PC modders plz save us. Give us some thighs.
>>319625764
>>319625836
>>319625852
>TWENTY FUCKING BURGERS
JESUS CHRIST
Fuck jAPAN
>>319623378
Great game, and I hope PCbros enjoy it, but I'd rather have PS4 ports of the entire trilogy (preferably with the original receiving XIII-2's combat improvements).
>>319626761
Fuck, you're right. Japs are CONDITIONED to tie logic to framerate, so no matter what engine they use, it will be fucked up. See The Evil Within, it was literally unplayable above 30FPS when it first launched, not like it was even possible to get 60FPS even with an i7/980 system. That has been fixed recently, so worst case scenario here is that the tying can be undone since not everything depends on framerate. Not counting on that to happen though, and I'm not expecting to see any of those other UE4 games to come to PC, especially not Scalebound because MS.
>>319626829
Good.
How was performance in 13-2? 13 had some stupid variable vsync that kept locking the fps at 30 even though I was completely capable of running it at 60. Did 13-2 have this?
>>319626908
>PS4 owner literally actually begging for ports
Just get a PC. What are you, poor?
>>319626149
>unless you completely ignore Synergist and Saboteur.
... Now I'm curious does the word Bass mean anything to you?
I have only played FF3 on the NES to completion, and a bit of FF1 as well. Since those are literally the only FF games I've ever played, should I get these games as well? I've heard the games are eh, but they look gorgeous and that black dude is amusing.
>>319626149
I was completely ignoring those "classes" until I got to the Fal'Cie boss at the top of the tower on Gran Pulse.
I BARELY beat it.
Then I got to Barthandelus 2 and it was literally impossible for me to progress without going back to grind to level up Synergist and Saboteur.
>>319626741
Type-0 has FPS lock not because they wanted to but because the game was hardcoded with logic tied to 30 FPS.
It would take a complete recoding of the game to "fix" that.
LR is 60 FPS.
>>319627049
Yes. They later patched both but it still derps the fuck out.
>>319627578
Nah. But if you do, skip XIII. LR was a cute, fun title, but not something I'd recommend on a whim.
>>319624521
decent price
>>319627578
Power through 13, preferably pirate it, so you can experience the VASTLY superior 13-2 and LR
13-2 fixed pretty much all problems of 13-1
>>319625852
>What's even the fucking point of Com/Com/Rav?
A lot of people forget or don't realize that the roles have bonuses which affect the whole party. So a commando does more raw damage and a party with a commando in it does a bit more damage than one without. In a battle like Barthandelus, where staggering is the only time he's really vulnerable it helps to do as much damage as you can in that window, hence two commandos. That's also why if you've ever seen videos of people fighting adamantoises or whatever they will have a paradigm with two or even three sentinels, not just so the individual party members can guard and stay alive, but also so the party collectively gets a defense boost.
>>319627578
13 sucks and 13-2 is better but still a clusterfuck. LR is actually really good but you won't understand the story at all. You should play all of them.
>>319623378
The ""FFVII Aerith"" schemata is not included in this pack. Furthermore, there are no plans to make this schemata available in future.
>>319628207
WHY THE FUCK
>>319627982
I didn't realize the bonuses were party wide, now I feel like a retard.
Guess this explains why there are 6 paradigm slots after all despite me thinking 3 is all you need.
>>319628268
Sony exclusive.
It wasn't in X360 version either.
I'm sure someone will mod it in like they did the retailer exclusive 13-2 DLCs.
>>319628207
Because you Americans have big penis!
I'm excited as fuck. It's the only XIII game I gave a shit about. Psuedo real-time combat, you only control lightning, compact open world to explore and you get to play dress up.
They delayed this shit a year so I'm really hoping it's been optomize like S-E non FF PC ports. 1080p, 60FPS with original JP audio. It should be good.
>>319627317
I have a PC. But if I'm going to replay it I'd rather get trophies than faggy Steam achievements.
>>319628207
If the data is still in the game it can probably be easily modded in. 13 had some unfinished content that was only accessible in the PC version with mods.
>>319628562
Wait what? Do link/explain please.
>>319628515
This is what I can appreciate. If you're making real time combat, don't give me a party that will end up being handled by a dumbfuck AI. I mean what's the point, just let me go solo.
>>319628549
>giving a shit about trophies and achievements
Holy fuck.
>>319628515
I want to have sex with them all
>FF XIII had 3 party members
>FF XIII-2 had 2 fixed party members
>FF XIII LR - 1 party member
Bravo Square
>>319628734
LR isn't even made by Square.
Tri-Ace made it by salvaging their cancelled Valkyrie Profile 3 game.
>>319628645
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjPtT6PoDBg
>>319627578
The black dude is the only redeeming character in the sea of shit characters that is Final Fantasy XIII, which is ironic considering he was supposed to be a throwaway comic relief character. Overall I wouldn't recommend playing ANY of the games for story, the first is the best but it's still pretty mediocre/terrible.
Also don't listen to >>319627960 or anybody who tries to tell you that XIII-2 somehow "fixed" everything wrong with XIII, they topically addressed issues like linearity and character progression but it's all very half-assed
The only one you'd play is LR because it basically throws everything about the first two games out the window and manages to be a moderately fun game as a result. The story is complete nonsense and the gameplay is almost totally divorced from traditional Final Fantasy or even JRPGs to an extent, but it's the one you're most likely to at least get SOMETHING out of.
>>319628780
>Tri-Ace made it by salvaging their cancelled Valkyrie Profile 3 game.
HOLY SHIT, NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, LR DOES FEEL AND PLAY LIKE A VP GAME
WHY DID I NEVER NOTICE
Maybe I'll actually get to play this one at higher than 15fps.
>>319628797
Holy shit, how do I re-enable this?
Anyhow it's pretty obvious why it was cut, it's recycling assets from Chapter 10.
>>319628814
Does LR have the black dude still? This is important.
>>319628324
Don't worry anon, hardly anybody knows about it. Hell, the only reason I do is because I'm so fucking buttmad that literally my favorite franchise has gone to shit that I actually forced myself to replay the PoS that is XIII in an attempt to find some redeeming qualities about it.
The worst part is that they spend so long handholding and beating you over the head with really obvious stuff that anybody who's played any videogame ever will already know that you don't ever stop to think that there could be more to the battle system and just plod through the game with boring COM/RAV/RAV and the occasional COM/RAV/MED or COM/SEN/MED.
Don't listen to this faggot >>319628814, clearly has a hate boner for the entire series just because of 13 itself.
>>319629120
I never used Com/Rav/Med. I did have a Com/Med/Med though for quick healing while also making sure not to lose the stagger gauge.
>>319629050
All the old characters have a subplot.
>>319629362
Is he a 'relevant' main character, or just a background character?
>>319629435
Only Lightning is playable if that's what you ask about, but story wise all of the main characters from previous games are relevant. As is the main antagonist of 13-2
>>319629208
>recommends LR
>clearly hates XIII-2 more than the original
whatever you say senpai
>>319629595
13-2 is superior in every single way that isn't party members and even the lack of more than 2 "real" party members is still better for the gameplay since you can get amazing monster party members just like in Dragon Quest 5.
It's not my fault you have shit taste.
>>319625570
Perfect babby's first jrpg is pokemon
Anyhow ffxiii is pretty intuitive and if you don't learn the mechanics before getting to thefirstBarthy fight it's your fault
And up until theCidfight I always used paradigms with 2 attacking roles (Com/Rav) and 1 non-attacking role (Syn/Sab/Sen/Med)
Then starting fromCidI realizedthe game was gonna get tougher
And it did, Pulse was fucking brutal at first
Hopefully the game doesn't run like complete shit. I don't expect it to run great, just hope it's decent is all.
I skipped 13-2 because i just really couldn't be bothered, LR looks really fun though, the combat seems incredibly different and much more fun, so many outfits is fun and cool too. Only thing i'm a little iffy about is the majora's mask time travel shit, constantly resetting your day again. Hopefully it doesn't get too annoying. I really don't want a "oh shit i forgot to reset the day whelp game over now i'm fucked" or "oh shit i'm in the middle of some dungeon and won't be out in time to reset the day i'm fucked".
>>319629720
you sound like one of those fags who insists he plays final fantasy for the "gameplay"
>>319626835
I hope they add the other outfits from the artbook
Artbookfag where are you?
>>319630013
>not playing FF for especially exploration and gameplay with great music to accompany you and a decent story to keep you going
How casual can one faggot be
>>319629901
It's p ez to get unlimited time. What might be annoying is when a quest spans over several days and you forget.
>>319629901
>Only thing i'm a little iffy about is the majora's mask time travel shit
Time doesn't reset in LR. You get a set amount of days and the only way to get more days is to finish quests and you can only have a maximum of 13 days. You can reset time in NG+ though.
It has to run better than it did on ps3, it just has to.
I beat the game twice on console, that game runs a fucking 18 fps on average. And it's not the hardware, Tales of Vesperia is a constant 60 fps on ps3. The game is just THAT poorly optimized.
>>319630309
Literally the only hard part of normal mode is the final boss and those optional bosses before him to unlock your sword's power.
>>319627578
I enjoyed 13 and 13-2. Haven't played LR so I can't vouch for it but I would give those two a shot.
>>319630590
They upgraded the lighting on PC and it's confirmed 60 FPS.
>>319630774
It damn well better be with a 5 month delay.
I'm cheating this time. I don't even care, I suffered for this shit on the console version.
>>319630774
>lighting
fuck that noise all I wanted was some non-shit environment textures are you serious ugh
>>319628405
But I played LR on my 360 with Aerith's schemataI pirated it but still
>>319628797
I love how even though it was cut it's still perfectly playable and looks great
>>319629901
>time limit
You have an ability in the game called chronostasis that stops the game clock. It uses AP which is regained by defeating enemies. As long as you aren't running away from fights you should have plenty of AP to spam chronostasis as often as you'd like. You can pretty much 100% the game (except for the stuff that unlocks the final day) with several days to spare. On my first playthrough I had to use an inn to sleep off a few extra days because I ran out of things to do. Now, don't take that to mean the game is light on content. It's not. I'm just saying the time limit is very lenient and you should have no problem as long as you don't play like a retard. Of course, the same thing applies to the PS3 Atelier games yet people are always finding ways to run out of time in those. So I'm expecting a few asspained idiots whining about not having enough time in this.
>>319630654
What about Aeronite and the secret dungeons with the last ones?
>>319631004
Just because you downloaded the cracked DLC unlock doesn't mean it was officially available.
>>319630947
Yep I'm serious, pic related, PS3 version, PC will be next.
>>319631339
You're not going to beat that on the first playthrough, it simply requires too much stat grinding.
>>319631352
And here PC screenshot.
>>319631375
I got pretty far into the last ones dungeon and then ran out of time on the first go
I liked the idea of having time moving forward during battles in there, made it tense
>>319631352
>>319631436
I can't even tell if there's a texture difference with all the dof.
>>319628653
... simultaneously ...
https://youtu.be/x7Qy_jTK74M
I love how Toriyama has the uncanny ability to draw me in his games by making confusing as fuck but gorgeous CGI intros
>>319627578
Ignore the XIII series and play FF4 remake since this one is actually a good game.
Ok guys, full comparison of all the released screenshots, PS3 vs PC
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/153759
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/153760
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/153762
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/153763
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/153765
I'd say the difference is pretty huge, also some environmental textures definitely got a slight boost, see the floor textures in second comparison for example.
>>319631617
How about these?
>>319632340
Also in 4th comparison look at Lumina's belts and accessories, not only did they get updated textures, they also seem to have more model detail.
The crosses for example are definitely way more detailed.
And in the fifth comparison you can see that the posters on the wall also have much higher resolution textures and are actually readable now.
I also love how the new lighting is very similar to the lighting used in the CGI scenes.
>>319632340
thank you based anon, I wish they were more consistent with the texture work but it does look like they fixed some wonky color-correction and the lighting makes a surprisingly large difference in some of those shots. Are you playing the game right now? How does it run?
>>319632620
>they also seem to have more model detail.
Nah they just look more detailed because of the increased screen resolution. The same thing happened with dark souls comparisons.
>>319632703
I'm not playing it, those are the screenshots from latest GameSpot article about it. They don't have the game either since they claim the screenshots were sent as press comparison materials to all media outlets.
>>319632793
No, they are clearly different models, just look at the belt area, they don't even match position wise like all other screenshots because they seem to have a higher detail LOD altogether.
>>319625310
Fuck you I'm laughing hahalol
>check steam hub
>muh time limit
lmao
>>319628814
>anybody who tries to tell you that XIII-2 somehow "fixed" everything wrong with XIII, they topically addressed issues like linearity and character progression but it's all very half-assed.
And still it's better than XIII. It's just that bad. Okay, maybe the plot is better in XIII but overall speaking, XIII-2 is way better than XIII. Them musics mang.
post music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDNp--VpdlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtebBTm7Hs8&list=PLBF8AEECF44B0A303&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPEzumonJv4&list=PLBF8AEECF44B0A303&index=13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWHJRNT8gcs&list=PLBF8AEECF44B0A303&index=19
>>319634348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvGnmt70kms
>>319623378
>weeb shit
>>319634518
>hating weeb shit on a tibetan shuffle boarding board
FFXIII is the only FF game i've ever played.
Lightning is flat as shit, but she's still a babe.
>>319634348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDTs1fVOiek
>>319634593
Her face is too wide in that fan art.
>>319634816
Your face is to wide in real life
>>319634802
>>319634420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3aB92PW9Qw&index=28&list=PLBF8AEECF44B0A303
good tunes
>>319635398
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9MR3r_DWrA
>>319634348
>>319634802
Holy fuck it doesn't matter how bad the games can be, music is awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KshwM7JVzQ4
>>319635723
I mostly posted that chocobo one as a joke, but this song is like crack to me. Totally pumped to kick shit around with Light in glorious HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e-QaPccfm0
>>319635723
>that random as fuck ladder
laffo
>>319635951
Yea, can't wait to re-visit the festive, crowded Yusnaan in gloriousupscaled1080p.
>>319635723
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnvzYXtdeTo&index=43&list=PLBF8AEECF44B0A303
>>319636262
come on now anon, do you really think square would do that, just go on the internet and tell lies?
>LR is coming out
>still haven't slogged through XIII or XIII-2
>>319628780
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/13/nora-wont-return-lightning-returns-final-fantasy-xiii/
>We also asked Kitase about tri-Ace who co-developed Final Fantasy XIII-2. They are involved with Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, but not as much so. "With this installment, staff members of Square Enix are the primary force, but we did get Tri-Ace to help on some parts of the graphic work, as they did in the past," Kitase explained
Tri-Ace barely worked on Lightning Returns and it was never a VP game. LR's lead combat designer is literally the one of the guys who designed XIII's battle system.
>>319625817
Yes, absolutely. The best healers are Hope and Vanille with the former being the superior one. Fang is a fantastic Ravager (the best) and Commando. Lightning is the best Commando and Snow obviously the best Sentinel. He also packs a punch.
Sazh is a great Synergist but I'm inclined to say Hope and Fang combo is superior in the fact that Hope basically has every type of buffs imaginable in his arsenal but Fang has the versions of the most basic buffs that apply to the whole team at once but dissipate faster.
>>319637292
Not exactly
Lightning best RAV
Fang best COM
Hope best MED and SYN
Snow best SEN
Vanille best SAB
Sazh best dad
>>319638997
Sazh has the worst stats hands down but his default roles allow for paradigms that would otherwise be impossible without tons of grinding. Of course, the game wasn't really balanced properly for that to ever be relevant, but...
Decent gaem
Even with PS2 character models
Playing XIII now because I've heard lightning returns has a great gameplay so I want to try it.
Took me 25 hours to get to gran pulse and It feels like everything before was just one big tutorial section. What the fuck were they thinking with this really? I've got so used to linear corridors hand holding I'm kinda overwhelmed now.
>>319639429
He's ranged, that's it
He's a good SYN but Hope's better and as RAV and COM he's hopelessly outmatched by Snow Fang and Light
Power rankings
Light, Hope, Fang, Snow, Vanille, Sazh
A team
Light, Hope Fang
B team
Snow Vanille Sazh
>>319640692
True. But once you've upgraded everyone
Fang/Light/Snow
or
Fang/Light/Vanile for death spamming is better
>>319641087
Never used death spam except for that frog-something at chapter 11 for early growth egg. Shit's boring. Still a great alt for Hope.
>>319640630
The biggest slap in the face is that you never fight the titan that was in the intro cutscene to Gran Pulse.
>>319623378
Long neck is long.
>>319641087
But outside of their main 3 roles the characters aren't that good
However Light Fang and Snow with XIII-2's combat would be laughably easy
>stagger enemy
>army of one while fang debuffs
>999.99% stagger
>highwind + sovereign fist
>>319641437
I never expected to
The thing literally eats adamantoises for breakfast
>>319640692
It's been a while so I can't remember exactly why, but I definitely used him for a while. I think it had something to do with triple COM, triple RAV, or maybe atb refresh working properly and putting him in the party was the only way to make it work out. Also something about him having haste much earlier I think? I seem to recall I used him specifically for a deck that focused on speed, I hated using SENs.
>>319641706
>outside of their main 3 roles the characters aren't that good
Lightning makes for a pretty good Saboteur because she gets Deshell, Deprotect and Imperil with not very much investment.
I did everything there was to do in this game aside from the 2 super bosses and the final boss on NG+.
They were retardedly difficult. Even more so than 7 and 8's WEAPONS and 9's Ozma. They're about on par with Penance and Yiazmat.Only without something like Yojimbro to carry you through it.
>>319642332
Well Chaos Aeronite on hard is literally the super boss in the franchise with 58+ million HP
if you're good enough it takes 5 minutes or something
You don't fuck with the goddess
>>319642202
All non native roles have retarded high CP costs
>>319642836
The stat gain per CP is abysmal, but the early nodes on the secondary roles are cheaper than the late game nodes for the primary ones, and it's absolutely worth it to pick up a few levels in the characters' secondary roles. By the end of the game I had a fair bit of levels on Fang as a Rav, Lightning had the big three Sab debuffs and Vanille had Ruin which is all she really needs as a Com. I wasn't hurting for CP at all at any point in the game and some of those roles I invested CP into fairly early on. You're not going to be maxing the crystarium for secondary roles the moment you get to Pulse but that doesn't mean they aren't worth spending points on or that characters can't be decent at their secondary roles once you do.
>>319643571
I never maxed out the full crystarium
How much grinding would that even take?
>>319643712
It doesn't take long at all really.
>>319623378
>tfw probably THE only person on /v/ that likes 13 in its entirety
I like other Final Fantasies, so why is this bad?
>>319644001
I was at around 80 or so hours on my first playthrough and I still had a bunch of levels to go
>>319638997
are you insane ? Fang is the much superior Ravager. She hits harder while keeping the stagher bar high.
>>319644189
13 was my goty 2010 ahead of Bayonetta and FNV
13-2 was my goty 2012 ahead of BO2 and Asura's Wrath
LR13 was my goty 2014 ahead of south park tsot and dead rising 3
>inb4 dead rising 3 is 2013
I played it on pc
>>319644425
what is army of one?
>>319644696
wow FNV was almost 6 years ago
>>319644189
I liked it too. Its really not a bad game but it takes way too long to get to the good parts.
>>319644425
Ravager isn't even one of Fang's main roles. She's Com/Sen/Sab.
>>319645062
Yeah
Fun, really fin but that launch was nightmarish
I thought fallout 3 was broken, fallout new vegas was much worse
>>319644189
>game plays itself
>more linear than straight line
>>319645687
Again with this
You do realize I can most of older FF games by holding down x in battles right?
You can't do that in XIII, you need to paradigm switch
Aren't the PC ports of 13 and 13-2 terrible? Why would I want to play this?
>>319647014
About as 'terrible' as Dark Souls, i.e. fixed day 1.
>>319647290
For 13-2
>Unfavorable to the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions in areas: Has poorly encoded 720p Bink cutscenes with artifacts, pixelated, jagged shadows, low unadjustable audio volume which music volume modifications can help, no controller vibration, broken surround sound outside of 2 or 6 channels, fixable broken rain translucency, possible crashes when entering new areas and with cloud saving enabled, and lacks software upscaling and downscaling support.
>Inconsistent frame rate, with additional features over its predecessor exacerbating the problem.
>Limited to 720p assets (such as font and HUD).
They really fixed all this?
>>319647014
They only really fucked up XIII at launch with the 720p lock. Durante fixed it like day 1 with gedosato. Later square fixed it with a patch later.
The game also made GPUs clock down because it wasn't demanding enough. That was fixed through the gpu control panel manually.
XIII-2 had the same throttling problem but that's it. Gotta wait and see if the delay did something for LR.
As long as it's not 30fps locked and runs at 1080p a port is fine for me.
>>319647014
They're just ok. 13 has variable vsync and it kinda fucks with performance even if you have a good gpu. No idea about 13-2.
I don't care what 13-2 fixed it didn't have bae Lightning playable so it's was shit and I never touched it. LR is jizz your pants good Lighting everywhere
>>319647014
13 has some issues keeping a stable framerate. The HUD causes some kind of issue that tends to cause fluctuations of even the most beastly of machines.
I didn't buy xiii-2 for that reason specifically.
>>319647014
It has bink encoded 720p fmvs instead of h.264 1080p fmvs like the ps3 version has
They wanted dual audio on pc but the realized that of they used the ps3 cutscenes it would have been 65gb of fmvs alone
So they did that
Now a better solution is letting you download the launcher alone and then from ther chose between jap or eng and between 720p or 1080p
But SE has no idea what pc is so they fucked it up
At least they're learning
>>319647659
Lightning is a massive cunt and I don't know why anyone would like her.
Vanille is annoying as fuck.
Fang a best.
>>319648160
isn't fang basically a lesbian?
>>319648194
Not in myfinalfantasies
>>319624959
Well I've been waiting for quite a while (played XIII and X-2 on ps3) and I'd like to see how this shit ends
BIG QUESTION
Is there anyway for me to power through 13 and 13-2 again using cheats so I don't have to do the bullshit grinding?
I'd like to experience the plot/music all over again but fuck if I'm going to put 70 hours in to each one AGAIN before getting to LR.
>>319648853
Yeah it's called watch all the 8 hours of cutscenes on youtube.
>>319648853
>playing XIII for the plot
at best you'd only have to play XIII-2 again and even then there's only tenuous links between it and LR. Aside from the characters and Bhunivelze LR literally has nothing to do with XIII, even the setting is entirely different.
>>319648160
Same reason people like the stoic military guy archetype
Problem is that even though Lightning is very fleshed out she's a woman so people say she's a cunt
>>319648853
Just power through. The game is made so if you have a complete mastery of the system, you can skip a lot of battles and still win
>>319644189
I don't really like XIII, but can accept it as it is, if that makes you happy. Solid 6.5/10.
I want to marry Lightning.
>>319648160
Same reason people like the stoic military guy archetype
Problem is that even though Lightning is very fleshed out she's a woman so people say she's a cunt
>>319649502
She's taken
>>319649224
>simply dismisses her sister without even listening to her for no reason
>oh no muh sister
>punching snow
>bitchslapping fang
And then when the director was bored with that he made her a mary sue because she is his waifu do not steal.
Vanille was objectively the hottest XIII character
>>319649786
Tell me the truth, do you have any siblings?
Why do games go with the "play as the little but much more mature and responsible sister in the sequel nobody gave a shit about"?
Neptunia 2 did it too.
>>319650281
Yes.
And if my brother came and told me he became a l'cei I would've at least told him to show me his godamn mark before sperging out and telling him to get lost.
I don't even know how much shit could've been avoided if she'd only listened.
>>319649786
That's her entire point
She goes from being a borderline fadcist with an incredibly short temper to be more open to others
And for the last fucking time she's Toriyama's daughter figure
Like Cloud is to Nomura
7 = 8 = 9 = 10 > X-2 = 12 > 13 = 13-2 > 4 = 6 > 5 = 1 = 2 = 3
>>319650531
>not making a character based on your daughter so you can waifu her and secretly fap to her
>>319650453
Okay, but imagine if your brother has a dick head friend who's pretty much the equivalent if a gangbanger, and you know they're both up to something, and you can tell they're hiding something, and you suspect this might be all a ploy for him to use your brother in some scheme, would you still go along with their story?
>>319644189
I liked it, but as others say, it takes a long time to get to the good parts so when you finally end up there, it feels like you've been playing a giant tutorial for most of the game. FF13 was okay but I fucking loved 13-2, one of the only games where I literally completed everything there was and had 100% completion in.
>>319650335
>serah
>more mature
> He's just this super cool guy, you know? He doesn't care about the way he looks, but that just makes him so much cooler.
> And he's not just kind, he's reliable too. He always means what he says, and you can totally trust his word. I-mean-he's-my-hero-oh-and-I-know-you're-thinking-no-one's perfect-I-know-he-has-his-flaws-and-sometimes-he-makes-me-so-mad-but-I-love-that-about-him-too-no-other-guy... can-compare-to-my-hero.
>>319650646
I don't even know if he has a daughter
He considers Lightning his daughter
>>319632851
>LOD
>On a model less than 5m from the camera
Get the fuck out
>>319650934
>consoles
>>319650649
I won't but if she'd only seen the mark she would realize that they are probably telling the truth.
It's not like they were asking her for something shady while trying to hide Serah being a L'cei.
I guess it's just typical Japanese "i'd rather die or wait for shit to get real before I express my real feelings or show any sense" writing.
>>319650567
1 4 6 7 8 5 10 11 13 12 15 2 3 9 14
>>319650134
her accent.
I want to divorce Lightning.
>>319650975
It's implied that Lightning and Snow have a history with her being a soldier and him being the leader of NORA
>>319650134
That's objectively Serah, actually.
Also I still have no idea what Vanille's weapon is supposed to be.
>I can't wait to pay full RRP for yet another terrible port of one of the worst games in possibly the most offensively awful series of all time!
I hope this thread is full of shils rather than people who genuinely think anything to do with 13 is in any way acceptable.
I wish people liking this abomination didn't upset me so much.
>>319650786
This is a huge disparity in characterization.
In 13, Serah is just a mcguffin.
In 13-2 they gave her a semblance of a character but left the whole SNOW SNOW I WANT SNOW part. Except throughout the whole game she has much better chemistry with Noel instead, while Snow is just away being Snow.
I don't get it.
>>319651865
the XIII saga was fantastic
>>319651865
Lightning Returns is good, faget.
Better than X at least.
>>319651961
The Star Wars prequels are objectively better than the original trilogy.
>>319649206
Bhunivielze is The Creator the Falcies try to summon throughout the whole game.
>>319649786
Man have you ever met a woman in real life? Lightning works as a cop to feed her family and Serah goes off to fuck the town vigilante. Lightning was a huge bitch but you conveniently ignore her situation because she's a woman. Cloud was just as big of a bitch but he gets a free pass because muh male privilege
>>319651915
I thought Serah and Noel were gonna fuck halfway through the game. I don't like Snow but they really fucking gutted him. They could have at least mentioned him a few times going through the story.
>>319652298
They should've just had two girls on a journey through time instead of keking Snow like that.
>>319651971
Nigga I've been playing video games for nearly 35 years, I'm a huge fat basement dweeling Wap whose learned moon in highschool to play Tokimemo when it was released.
I've owned an Action Max, an Ngage and a TWO CD-is.
6 years later I still fail to comprehend how anyone can play these games and enjoy them to such an extent that they believe them good, great or better.
FF1 was fun. 3 was fun. 7 and 9, even 8 have their merits. 10 was a disappointment, 10-2 has this highest highs and lowest lows. 12 was horseshit with a few plus points.
FF13 is the worst video game I have ever played. Fuck.
>>319652473
There was no ntr whatsoeverexcept for the blade forged in everlasting chaos
>>319652298
XIII-2 should have had Snow and Hope as main party members
>>319652298
Snow deserves to be kekolded, he is a raging manchild with no grasp of consequences.
>>319652609
>learn jap for Tokimemo instead of Tokimemo 2
See this is why you don't understand, bad taste
>>319652879
Well technically he'd already know moon for 2 if he knew it for 1.
>>319623378
I want Lightning Returns so much I want to play dress up in Majora's Mask so bad
>>319652609
>old man hates new FFs because they don't appeal to his nostalgia
STOP THE PRESSES
The demo made the game seem like complete junk, gameplay footage made the rest of the game seem as junk as the demo, except with gigantic environments with absolutely nothing in them.
>>319652609
an hero
>>319653091
Yes, only old people dislike the 13 games because their only flaws are being too new and revolutionary for oldies to get.
>>319653202
I'm old and I like the 13 games
>>319634593
>ffXII is the only FF game ive ever played
holy shit son, XII and X are leagues better than whatever the fuck the XIII series is.
>>319653738
FF12 is terrible. Any PCfriends thinking of trying more FF games please ignore this moron.
>>319647014
Just played through both of them a month ago and I can say that 13 is a good enough port that you generally don't really notice any big problems with it. Like it's not great when it comes to graphic settings and whatever but it runs fine.
However in 13-2 the framerate is all over the place for some reason.
>>319653953
>he didnt buy it on ps2
pirate and emulate XII if you want, it runs pretty alright.
But story wise, at least 12 was fucking understandable, other than that garbled fucking mess 13 was.
how the fuck did 13 get two fully fledged games.
>>319653953
>FF12 is terrible.
If any post is to be ignored, it's obviously that one.
>>319636262
downscale from 4k then
>>319653953
FF12 was fun!
>>319654179
>how the fuck did XIII get two fully fledged games
Because XIV 1.0 was a complete shitshow and they needed money after being forced to make ARR.
>>319654773
crafty nippon jew-san.
couldnt of tthey just bankedon one of their other licenses to make dosh though?
Just cause 2 and sleeping dogs not included.
>>319654609
DONT BELIEVE IN ONDORES LIES!
>>319655116
This dank meme was the only memorable and good thing to come out of FF12. It literally gave Matsuno cancer
>>319655013
FF is their most succesfull in-house IP
>>319655303
>Not enjoying the leading man
>not siding with the basch fon ronsenburg of dalmasca
>not enjoying fighting the undying
>not grinding like a moterfucker just to get all of the quickening's
>not hunting down the giant rock tortise in the mines for a little moogle
ill fucking fight you.
>>319624946
Use a librascope first thing, each of those little faces is weak against a certain element and the auto battle will click in after you use it
2 hours until steam unlock
I wonder how the launcher looks
