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Why do so many praise Dark Souls for the "amazing lore", when it stole so heavily from Berserk? I'm not trying to say DaS is a bad game or anything, but I think it's really pathetic that a lot of people seem to forget that its lore was heavily borrowed from another series in many areas of it.
Chosen Undead never got fucked in the ass trying to sleep in a tent.
>>319499856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coGpmA4saEk
>>319499856
In no way could any Souls character ever hope to be near as capable as Guts
It doesn't matter, OP.
>>319499856
Artorias is just heavily based off of Guts. Anyone else does not seem to have any connection to Berserk, besides perhaps the pedo cleric.
it has nothing to do with berserk except for also being "dark" fantasy
What? None of the lore is ripped off from berserk. It just has heavy visual homages to berserk. Youve never read berserk i take it.
You can say it Alright.
Everyone knows Souls games are shit.
>>319499856
design=/=lore
>>319500110
>Who is Ricket the blacksmiths son in New Londo
Getfucked2bh
What lore did it steal? Please give several clear examples.
>>319499856
>lot of people seem to forget that its lore was heavily borrowed from another series in many areas of it.
...Like?
>>319500881
He's referring to that similar looking iron maiden and ball of corpses, but that's literally it.
>>319500978
No I know I just wanted him to struggle to list shit and realize how stupid this thread is.
>>319500426
/thread
>>319500747
Not the guy you're asking, but its common knowledge that the eye orb is basically a homage to the behelit, Npcs named the same as characters from Berserk, enemy demons who are clearly designed after berserk baddies, Gwyndolin is like Griffith, artorias like guts, with all the 1armed shenanigans. In my opinion, its all just fun homage.
The whole "demons infesting the world" in Demons Souls was a DEFINITE ripoff of Berserk though.
>>319501249
>Gwyndolin is like Griffith
Except not at all?
There are some influences, but most of the shit people connect is just stuff that's been around forever. Berserk has it's influences too, suprise.
Apart from a few characters and some armor pieces, there aren't that many things you can say it's straight out of Berserk.
>lore = design ideas and like a pose in some cover art
ok
>>319501249
>Berserk invented demons infesting the world
I love the fuck out of Berserk but come on man.
>>319501330
they are both physically fucked up effeminate males that each rule their respective worlds,
both have long, white hair, both are known to wear masks that cover the entirety of the upper head, both use magic/dexterity instead of strength to win their battles.
Oh boy, no similarities at all!
>>319499856
>when it stole so heavily from Berserk?
Except it didn't really. The most blatant references are things like these, which aren't really significant (I know the image is Demons but it's the same in DaS). These are just furnishings -- there are some weapon and armor sets which are reminiscent of items in the manga, but that has little to do with the background information. The rest of the aesthetic, as well as the lore, is inspired by lots of other fiction, as well as reality.
I don't know how you could have linked the "lore" or the story to Berserk; they don't resemble each other at all, as far as I can tell. You could have provided some examples.
>>319501643
there is no similarity at all in their characters except "they're both effeminate"
>>319501643
>they are both physically fucked up effeminate males
Griffith has breasts? Griffith was raised a female despite being a male due to his female appearance?
>that each rule their respective worlds,
Gwyndolin rules an illusion.
>both have long, white hair, both are known to wear masks that cover the entirety of the upper head, both use magic/dexterity instead of strength to win their battles.
I wasn't aware these things were exclusive to the character of Griffith.
>>319501643
>they sort of l-look alike
how about their motivations and character traits?
oh gee wiz completely dissimilar
idiot
>>319500110
>i haven't read berserk: the post
>friendly bearded blacksmith
>new blacksmith named rickert
>religous people led by girl descend
>pretty butterfly that attacks you with her horn
>frampt and kaathe's designs appear when the god hand is summoned the first time
>feminine but male demigod with sun affinity
>graveyards fulla swords
>>319501636
its not the trope, so much as the execution of it, the inclusion of the darksign, the fact that the whole of boletarias mess can be attributed to one guy fucking everything up, and demons taking over the top echelons of society in general in both stories.
I wouldnt say it was stolen so much as heavily influenced by.
I personally like it that way.
>>319501890
gwyndolin doesnt have tits either
besides, like I said, It is homage in appearence only, not lore, so character motivations dont mean jack shit
>>319501839
this. basically what Im saying
>>319499926
underrated post
Dark Souls Needs more manpurses
my love for you is like a truck...
>>319502693
>>319502957
I don't give a fuck what anyone else says. The bag joke is always funny.
IS IT TRUE THEY FINALLY GOT OFF THE FUCKING BOAT
>>319499856
It stole design cues from Berserk, not story.
that sensation when berserk is getting regular updates
>>319503701
That's what I heard last week. Haven't seen a update yet, though.
It's been what, 7 years since they got on?
>>319499856
>being inspired from a manga
>THEY STOLE IT
Holy shit you fucking autist. Get a life. Literally who cares.
>>319499856
>when it stole so heavily from Berserk?
There are a few designs that reference Berserk. A lot more of the designs are borrowed from a D&D book Miyazaki read when he was younger. You're a fucking idiot for thinking any of that constitutes as lore or diminishes the atmosphere in any way. Berserk isn't wholly original either.
>>319501978
>>graveyards fulla swords
Does that include Ninja Gaiden 2 as well?
WHEEL SKELETONS
>>319503384
I don't fucking get it, what's funny about it? That Guts has bags? It's not fucking funny.
>>319499856
what part of the lore is taken from berserk?
>>319505901
sssshhh Guts. No need to be sensitive about your manpurse
>>319499856
bc we cant all keep up with your Brazilian cartoons faggot, this is 4chan get outta here with that shit
>>319499856
inspiration does not equal stealing.
>>319505901
It's just a silly joke. Like out of all the things to make fun of the series for: fucking bags. Seeing Guts get tightassed about his bag being called a purse and "He IS his own bag!!" is just kind of a ridiculous counter to all the horribly grimdark shit that the series is known for.
It's entertaining to think the characters take the bag thing seriously. Suspension of disbelief.
>>319499856
you're mistaking visual elements with lore elements
the stories of DaS and Berserk really have nothing to do with eachother
>>319506443
Big hat Logan and Griffith tho
>>319501890
>Gwyndolin rules an illusion.
and Griffith doesnt?
ciaran
casca
artorias
guts
marvelous chester
irvine
taurus demon
nosferatu zodd
Siegmyre
Buzuso
>Being inspired by something is stealing the original source
When this mindset end?
>>319508428
straight up plagiarism
Where's the best place to read Berserk? Seems like most of the shit online are shitty translations.
>>319508624
http://mangasaurus.com/view/46314-01315603
enjoy
>>319509120
Thanks anon!
check it.
>>319499856
Dark Souls didn't "steal" much. That's the kind of thing you'd say if you played Dark Souls and then sort of glanced at a few Berserk chapters. It takes a lot of visual cues and inspiration from Berserk, throws out a couple homages here and there but nowhere does it outright lift exact designs. Artorias is nothing like Guts or the Berserker armour except in that one cover art.
>>319507862
>taurus demon=Nosferatu zodd
Zodd isnt a minatour you imbecile
>>319510871
you arent even trying
>>319511771
trying what?
>>319499856
I think it's really pathetic that people give a shit about "lore" in any entertainment medium at all
>>319513516
back to your spunkgargleing shitfest that is modern fps with you
10/10 manga
>>319499856
Dark Souls 1 had an amazing presentation and design philosophy that is incredible
>>319499856
If it was all stolen from Berzerk then why is it a shittier Berserk game than Dragons Dogma?
CHECK AND MATE MOTHEFUCKER!
>>319501978
>friendly bearded blacksmith
not nearly specific enough to berserk to mean anything.
>new blacksmith named rickert
A name is not the overall lore of a world
>religious people led by girl descend
If I need to explain to you why dark should religious group is different from berzerks then you should really just leave
>pretty butterfly that attacks you with her horn
Implying the fuck horrifying insect queen that turns children into cannibalistic bugs hits the same aesthetic notes as the moonlight butterfly's serene and ethereal beauty.
>frampt and kaathe's designs appear when the god hand is summoned the first time
Once again homage via visual design goes not copied lore make
>feminine but male demigod with sun affinity
Do you mean Griffith and Gwendolyn? Despite Gwendolyn being affiliated with the moon and the two being completely fucking different?
>graveyards fulla swords
Stop
>>319502957
NOW IS TIME FOR MAKING FUCK
BERRZZZERRKEERRZ
>>319503701
WE GOT OFF THAT BOAT
CHARLIES EVERYWHERE
