Playstation 5
4k@60fps $449
Can it be done?
it will be 8k@120fps and $299
based sony
4k is a meme resolution. Sony would have to be retarded to aim for that. 1080p seems to be their focus for the PS4, so they should just carry that over to the PS5 and prioritize frame rate.
>>319448690
Nah, but maybe the Playstation 5 will have 1080p@30fps games
>>319448690
No.
>>319448690
It will be just like the 3 > 4 jump, barely any hardware improvement and the system will have to ride on exclusivity and ignorance for sales.
>>319448690
>4k@60fps
Who cares?
>>319448690
no, unless you want a repeat of the 599 price point, consoles are cheap for a reason
>>319449284
geezus christ senpai, almost 2016 and you guys are just happy to hit 1080p?
>>319449910
just the natural progression of tech, please tell me youre not fine with 900p 30fps
PS4 already does 60fps flawlessly and has 4k capabilities. It's up to devs. PS4 is more than capable.
>>319450156
If the game is fun, then why not?
>>319450156
I'm OK with my PS4.
>>319450280
Fun is subjective you blockhead, higher res and framerates directly impact how you experience the game, it makes shit easier to see and the higher framerate provides better visual feedback.
>>319449284
>1080p seems to be their focus for the PS4
kek
considering ps5 will be in 2020, maybe. the gpu will probably do at least 16 teraflops/second at that price.
>>319450515
why the kek
>>319448690
Shure thing, but by then the standard will be 8k/120f
>>319450793
ps5 along with whatever microsoft has will very likely come out by 2018 http://wccftech.com/exclusive-next-generation-consoles-expected-2018-amd/
>>319450334
good for you
>>319448690
How about they aim for constant 1080p @ 60 fps first anon.
Let's not run before we can walk.
>dat ps9
>dat year 2078
>dat hologram audio
>sonyfags so sick of their own system they already want another
>>319450515
most of the games are 1080p on PS4, many of them being 60fps
i don't think there's a single game that goes below 900p too
>>319452787
What's a confirmed 1080p@60fps game?
>>319448889
You're trolling but seriously if game console can't do 8k at 60 fps by around the time 9th gen comes it'll be pretty bad.
>>319453098
a lot of them, really
from top of my head
>MGS V
>DmC Definitive Edition
>Metro Redux
>Warframe
and all of PS3 remasters
You can't even run 4k properly with high end hardware. I highly doubt the next console generation will be able to push it.
980ti in SLI barely get 4k to 60fps in modern titles.
>tfw we'll finally be able to play Bloodborneremasterat 60fps on PS5 in christmas 2016
>>319450478
>higher res and framer ates directly impact how you experience the game
It directly impact how YOU experience the game. Not everyone gives a fuck about it, and you subjectively think they're stupid because of it.
>>319448690
Only as an episodic release.
>>319453468
>counting remasters
Dont be a fucking nigger anon
>>319449284
>they should carry 1080p through until 2025+
You realize it's you people that hold back gaming as a whole, right?
>>319450205
lol no
>>319448690
Not with current tech, the GPU requirements for reasonable framerates at 4k make a 449 price point completely impossible.
>>319454153
whatever, games are games
be glad i didn't include indie trash
>>319454018
It objectively impacts everyone's experience my dude, someone playing CSGO at 30 fps is going to get fucking anally devastated by someone playing at 120fps. You can claim you don't care and are fine with 30 just like you can claim that shit tastes fucking great. I can't say your opinion is wrong but high framerates have an objectively positive affect on fast paced games. Claiming that it doesn't impact your experience is gaf tier bullshit.
lol if people are still dumb enough to buy consoles next gen. even this gen proved how retarded consumers are
>>319455670
without ps5 how will people enjoy hardcore gaming like fifa, madden, cod and re remasters?
>>319448690
Tell me when then we can talk.
>>319449284
>improving is too hard, next gen should focus on picking up the slack from last gen
Good lord, consolefags.
>>319454282
Buddy, I spent over 1000 over the years setting up and keeping it updated; and even I think Graphicsfags like you are the worst.
ps5 probably has a pimped out 970 3.8 gb drr5 ram
better graphics will do nothing to improve gameplay.
>>319456316
Gameplay won't improve anyway.
>>319448690
Only if they sell it at a loss, like they did with the X360/PS3. Otherwise, for that money you can't possible add decent enough hardware.
>>319456617
in 2022 it may be able.
Hell no
For one thing, it would need to be more than 8x as powerful to run current 1080p 30fps games on PS4. Not to mention the fact that with newer types of physics engines and graphical effects used, demand increases.
PS6 will be 4k 60fps. PS5 will be a small jump in power, 1080p 60 fps on all games.
We're not ready for the jump to 4k yet, and consoles sure as hell aren't. If 1440p wasn't pretty much monitor only I'd suggest that, but it has almost no power in the TV market for them to pursue that, so I highly doubt they will.
PS5's focus will be on shitty locked down no mods VR. Count on it.
>>319455514
>just like you can claim that shit tastes fucking great
>>319456747
In 2022 a $450 console will still be 10x worse than a mid range PC of the time.
Fuck, by then who knows if consoles and PCs as we know them today will exist. Tablets are cannibalizing every other market, and corporations needing workstations will not keep gaming hardware manufacturers in business.
>>319452787
Come on don't overestimate the hardware capacity here. Sure, many game are either 1080p or 60FPS, but as soon as you speak about "big" games (AAA or in term of scope or graphics), it's turn to shit. While you can undertstand that Watch_dogs Asscreed Unity or Syndicate are 900p 30FPS because of Ubisoft piss poor optimization, there's many more that does not have any excuse. Everybody's Gone to the Rapture is 900p and beraly 30FPS, there's often huge dips in the 20 FPS zone. Fuck, even very small scope game like EA Sports UFC is 900p 30FPS, and there's just about rendering a ring/arena and two fighters.
BF4 ? Hardline ? The new battlefront ? All at 900p in order to maintain decent FPS (not really a stable 60 but at least 60 with drops is decent enough and better than 30 with dips)
Most of the games running at 1080p is in detriment of framerate, since they are locked at 30 : Destiny, Alien, Bloodborne, Fallout 4, The Order, Dying Light, The Crew, Drive Club... Shit, even motherfucking Sleeping Dogs and Knack don't reach 60FPS.
I would be very surprised if half of the game running at 1080p achieve more than 30FPS (outside small indie game). That's a damn shame.
>>319454018
Tell me again this kind of framerate doesn't impact the game experience.
>>319457585
Man, this is disgusting.
steady frame rate > resolution > frame rate
Looks like this is shitty in all 3 ways.
>>319457776
>steady frame rate > resolution > frame rate
Agree. Except if it's a steady 20 FPS, obviously.
>>319457907
Ehh. Ocarina of Time was steady 20. I'd rather that over fluctuating between 20 and 30.
>>319457197
>who knows if consoles and PCs as we know them today will exist
In the future I could see "consoles" becoming modular and basically retard proof PCs where you just buy Sony or Microsoft branded hardware and somehow plug it in externally through the case.
>>319458308
Yeah, and we coped with ultra low poly model and blurry mess because we though it was the best thing ever. Still, going below 30 begin to be really noticeable and under 25 is quite frankly downright annoying as hell. (And anything below 15 is just wtf am I doing ?). I would be quite pissed with a constant 20 FPS just like I would be quite pissed at a today game exhibiting model and texture the same quality as those of OOT (considering it's not a "super retro hyped artstyle totally volontary I swear").
>>319448690
Just go for 1080p. Only memers care about anything higher right now.
>>319459045
Console already tried that. It failed. Console must be constant like that dev focus on only one platform.
>>319457585
Hot damn
>>319459243
1440p is actually a good compromise when you have a pretty big monitor
they should try for 1080p60 first.
i don't think it's too much to ask. after all, it is the current year that we're in.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
good one, OP!
we would have had that on the PS4 if they werent shilling MUH GRAPHICS! LOOK AT THE 10.000 USELESS LIGHT FILTERS
Who the fuck cares about 4K it's a fucking meme. 60 FPS is mandatory.
>>319448690
Can you do 4k 60fps on PC? lets say on GTA V for 449?
I got around 500 bucks to spend on a pc and obviously i'd like to get 4k 60fps
I heard a 660 is twice as good as what the PS4 has so i should be good on a 660 for this gen?
>>319461906
that was stupidly written...
Obviously you can do 4k 60fps on a PC but i meant can you do that for around 500 bucks?
>>319454282
The vast majority of people are retarded enough to not be able to tell the difference between even 720p and 4k. It's gotten bad enough that TV manufacturers have to add futuristic-looking curves to the screen to make it look cutting-edge.
Sure, you want your stuff to push the envelope, but you're one of those handful of people who care about that shit enough to tell the difference. Modern consoles simply aren't aimed at you and likely won't be anytime soon unless the winds change, and the sooner you accept that, the sooner you can stop being disappointed.
i don't think 4k TVs are popular enough for that to be warrantedi'm fine with 720p 30fps honestly. if it's a good game i'll enjoy it. as long as it doesn't look like trash. inb4 "hurr 720p is trash"
>>319448889
>in 2024
Yes.
>>319464085Too bad, you'll get 1080p 15-30 unstable fps without a choice. Thats why i like PC, it lets you choose. I don't need anything better than a 750ti because i'm perfectly okay with 720p 60fps on high.
>>319464341
Not him, but i just like the idea of putting in a disc and playing a game without all the extra hassle and troubleshooting. If it's worth losing a couple of graphics options and a little performance then i'm fine with that because it's a fair trade off in my honest opinion. I also like the idea that all of my bros who have PS4 also get an identical game experience because all our hardware is the same so no one get's an unfair advantage like higher framerates in competitive games.
When will idiots realize fps+resolution is dependent on graphical quality?
Ps4 can do 1080p at 60fps with no drops if it is like pong or some shit. 4k at 60fps is arbitrary description.
>>319448690
>4k@60fps
The PS4 can BARELY get 30fps at 1080 in some games.
You really think it'll get 4k@60?
Come the fuck on.
>>319453468
>cross-gen
>remaster
>remaster
>shitty game
This is the power... of the PS4...
woah...
>>319448690
They should go for 1440p first
>>319465150
>running 60fps 1080p doesn't count because i said so!
>>319465384
The PS3 could run tetris and 4k and 120fps if it wanted to.
>>319456759
>8x more powerful
Just like the transition from ps3 to ps4.
And ps2 to ps3
And ps1 to ps2
So yeah. It will probably use a pumped up version of the AMD nano, which of course costs less than 200 bucks after 4 years and is optimised like hell.
>How do you know that!?
Because the GPU the ps4 has, is based off the 7870, which was at the time of release about 350-400 bucks. Just like th AMD Nano is right now.
The thing is, VR is gonna take off, and will probably be a huge hit. So they'll optimise their next PlayStation for vr and supply the VR device with it. It'll be 2k @90 fps. 4k @ 25-60 fps depending on the game.
