Tell me the good things about Silent Hill Downpour.
The only good thing about it is that it got Tomm Hulett to finally fuck off and Komani to finally realize he's ruined Silent Hill almost beyond repair
That's it, seriously. It's FUCKING TERRIBLE in every way as far as a game goes, and it's straight up insulting as far as a SH title goes.
The ONLY thing I liked about it was a scene where you see a tire swing on a tree, when you look away and then back at it: it's a hanging body.
>>319448415
The disc makes a good Frisbee.
>>319448686
This.
Seriously, fuck anyone claiming shit like "it's better than HC", or even "it's the best western SH game"; this game's buggy, laggy, fugly, clunky, and writing / "story" (or lack of it) are totally disasterous. It does not even have Akira Yamaoka's music!
>>319449060
Does a Silent Hill game REALLY has to have Akira's music?
>>319448415
Sometimes it remind me Alan Wake and Twin Peaks in some of the scenaries. That´s it. The game is shit.
>>319448415
It had the balls to move away from the aesthetic everyone associates with silent hill (fog + rust and blood). Whether this was well executed is another matter.
Some of the otherworld sequences looked cool.
That's most of it. It wasn't very good.
>>319449421
>otherworld
>running away from a black hole
A fucking insult to the SH fans.
>>319449223
considering that his music (and all the audio work) provide like half of the series' trademark atmosphere, and has been considered as the only kinda saving-graces in the other, shitty sequels (even the fucking movies), then yeah - I would say they REALLY need to have his music.
Even more so if your alternative is fucking Korn and the guy behind Dexter's soundtrack.
>>319449421
>It had the balls to move away from the aesthetic everyone associates with silent hill (fog + rust and blood).
except it did not. It just copypasted SH2's aesthetics (fog + wet, moldy, worn).
>>319449223
Yes. If you know anything about SH...yes.
There's no question or argument. Akira was part of team Silent, who are responsible for the good SH games. They kept him around for some of the western games so the games had at least a shred of credibility.
Imagine they kept releasing Star Wars movies with a rock soundtrack instead of John Williams. That's the difference here.
>>319449421
It didn't move away from that asthetic. It did it terribly. Do you know anything about the game?
They made the fog distance too far, so you can see everything in front of you and it ruins the original atmosphere created by the fog (not seeing what's directly in front of you). Also the rust+blood is there and it looks terrible anywhere that it is.
>>319448415
Atmosphere. The game's made by an eastern european company, and it really shows here. It has a very industrial feel to it akin to STALKER/Metro.
Music. Yeah Akira Yamaoka wasn't on this and there's that shitty Korn song. But besides that Daniel Licht does a surprisingly good job of making music fitting the game. Anyone who says that it's a big downgrade hasn't actually played the game and probably only listened to the Korn track.
Movement/Combat. It's among the best of any Silent Hill game. Everything feels smooth instead of stiff, so you can then concentrate on actual shit fucking with you not the controls.
>>319449820
>>319449708
this. The DP is totally trying to lick the old designs, but does so worse than some 15yo fanboys in their fangames.
It's even worse that they literally copypasted entire rooms all around the game, while the engine's trying hard to stream the textures in time when player enters a new area / turns 180 degrees.
Also, that UE3's stock post-processing sunshaft effect totally is out of place in Silent Hill.
I didn't buy it.
>>319450071
>It has a very industrial feel to it akin to STALKER/Metro.
it did? because I sure did not feel it.
and I love STALKER to bits.
>But besides that Daniel Licht does a surprisingly good job of making music fitting the game.
The game loops ONE fucking song like 75% of the time, and I can't even recall any others no matter how hard I try.
>Anyone who says that it's a big downgrade hasn't actually played the game and probably only listened to the Korn track.
Oh, I did play it alright. I goddamn went full retard and pre-ordered the damn thing, from USA out of all things since EU got it much later. The soundtrack is horrible, and it's made even more painful with those random radios playing Akira's songs from SH1-3 for short moments. The contrast is just insane.
>Movement/Combat. It's among the best of any Silent Hill game.
...you just gotta be kidding me. Please be kidding us?
The controls are easily THE clunkiest, most inaccurate and infuriating ones I've ever had an honor of experiencing in a game! I lost count how many melee Items I threw accidentally, and jesus christ the movement became awful when they tried to use "oldschool" static camera-angles. Everyone knows THAT one door in the later Otherworld.
It's even worse that I only later learned that the game has a separated, perfectly always hitting Auto-Aim shooting function.
>>319451027
>and I can't even recall any others no matter how hard I try.
"BOOORNNN FREEEEE~!"
The game has whooping two songs in total!
>>319448415
> Tell me the good things about Silent Hill Downpour.
uninstall works fine.
>>319451027
>it did? because I sure did not feel it.
and I love STALKER to bits.
You're kidding me. The otherworld had the most industrial feel of any in a Silent Hill game.
>The game loops ONE fucking song like 75% of the time, and I can't even recall any others no matter how hard I try.
Lol what?
>Everything else
Like I said, did you play the damn game for more than an hour? Because honestly from all your comments it really doesn't sound like you did.
I only rented it.
It gave us the best glitch in video game history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqYCIwurfV8
>>319451290
>The otherworld had the most industrial feel of any in a Silent Hill game.
it certainly did not feel anything like that. Just a poorly and genericly re-designed, all empty and pointlessly "openworld" variant of the town.
>Lol what?
won't repeat myself.
>Like I said, did you play the damn game for more than an hour?
I finished it. In a hindsight, I have no idea why.
I can sign everything TwinPerfect said about that shitty game, and they didn't even show all the technical issues I personally had with the game.
I would much rather replay both HC and 0rigins than this shitty "thing" that has SH on the cover.
>>319451127
The only down I see is that kid in the picture. Jesus christ.
>>319451290
>Lol what?
That about sums up your understanding of the game. Opinion discarded.
>Like I said, did you play the damn game for more than an hour? Because honestly from all your comments it really doesn't sound like you did.
He just pointed out multiple points the game got wrong, demonstrating a much better knowledge of the game than "muh stalker"
>post silent hill 3
>good
Downpour really sucked.
Could have been good if you played as the female cop chasing convict Murphy into Silent Hill. Also if literally every single gameplay and visual decision were changed and handled by people who knew what the fuck they were doing.
>>319451902
4 was alright.
Not god-tier like 1-3, but still fine.
and far better than anything that came out afterwards.
>>319448415
the two Anna Ternheim songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w0KhHskGXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuj0XFngiBU
>Silent Hill thread
Neat! You know what that means? DOWNLOAD LINKS:
SH1 NTSC DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!bVUCTJzD!PmnPw4S7fWGyvTjw9S0-RQdk7rRp2BQNuXJqRkZCZvk
SH2 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!rFcj1SIJ!47JH9M4OrzmQKuaiJ6IqUgmgz_SVNtk4LIYNSa-D-_8
SH2 torrent:
https://mega.nz/#!bYcEnbhC!rYnhvcJiRC46T6yExS0Y61JHZ-5N3WxFvfZMI8xbyhE
SH3 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!2JNkgJ7b!nfPf5cIs6I5K-sdAs7RcnHvGA2hAvIGdpQuIoBhF3iE
SH3 torrent:
https://mega.nz/#!GVVGRLpD!SyklVbuLIkc38ZYji5QL3sWHKtHt9-Bto700My8pH7c
SH4 torrent: Kickass torrents
And in case someone's once again new to this PC gaming stuff: Use a program like DaemonTools Lite to mount the ISOs of 2 & 3, and then run their installers like always.
The SH1 is a PS1 rip that you gotta emulate.
The "sh2proxy" works as a no-cd crack as well, and is included in the pack.
>SH Downpoor
It sucks. Period.
>>319448415
It has the second best pacing of the western SH games. It has some decent puzzles and a few great areas/aet pieces. The weeping bats look like Silent Hill enemies and the dolls are creative. The environmental art direction is pretty great.
It's an okay game if you take it as a generic horror game and not a Silent Hill. Also, if you decide to play it make sure it's the 360 version. It's much more stable and runs better than the PS3 version.
>>319448415
Is homecoming any good? I've never played a Silent Hill game before and I only have a 360?
>>319452376
No. And don't play the Silent Hill HD remakes. Do yourself a favor and use this >>319452323
>>319452376
No.
Do not play ANY of the SH games besides 1-4. And play them in release order if you can.
>I only have 360
you got a PC in front of you right now, RIGHT??
Grab the old PC ports from >>319452323,
and experience the golden age of the survival-horror genre!
Yes, they will fucking work, even on wormbox craptops. They are 13+ years old DX7 games.
>>319452376
>Is homecoming any good?
No.
>I've never played a Silent Hill game before
Play SH1-3. On PC. Emulate first, grab PC ports of 2&3.
>and I only have a 360?
sell that shit.
>>319452376
skip homecoming,play 3 first
>>319452584
>you got a PC in front of you right now, RIGHT??
I lol'd
also the fact that 3 different people just said the same thing should mean there's no room for argument or disagreement, Fuck Homecoming and long live the PC versions of SH 1-4
>>319452376
Homecoming is decent, but the story is pretty much fan-fiction tier. That and Downpour are the only ones worth getting (cheap) on 360. Avoid the HD Collection like the plague.
>>319452376
emulate the first three and forget everything else silent hill-related
>>319452827
More like three autistic Twin Perfect drones decided to shit up a Silent Hill thread like always.
>>319452886
>That and Downpour are the only ones worth getting (cheap) on 360.
bruh...
>Avoid the HD Collection like the plague.
that should go without saying
>we will never get silent hill on steam
>>319453029
0/10
>>319452323
Why do people keep recommending Daemon Tools when wincdemu exists and it's free as in freedom?
>>319453029
>he knows what Twin Perfect is
>insulting other people for doing the same
And you're calling other people autistic? Take your meds.
Silent Hill is dead now
>>319453032
So if I just wanted to play Silent Hill 3, why is the HD collection bad?
>>319453032
Downpour runs much better on the 360. I've owned both versions and have seen the differences first-hand. It's not a great game (and it's terrible as a Silent Hill) but it does enough things well that it scratches that horror game itch. Homecoming was a legitimately well put-together game outside of the story. The combat-heavy focus made it a bad for for Silent Hill but it's still a decent game in its own right.
>>319453173
dunno... maybe because DT has worked fine for me the past 16 years, and is still free too?
>>319453213
I know who they are, and I know they're full of shit and have a deluded group of brainwashed idiots championing them whenever Silent Hill is brought up.
>>319453305
There's SO MANY reasons. If you've got 2 hours to kill Twin Perfect covers all the issues in great detail and are entertaining as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wya4XhTPMcc
Ignore autistis who shit on them without any actual criticism like >>319453029
>>319453482
Explain how they are full of shit, instead of just bitching without any actual criticism.
Right now you're the deluded one championing the "stop liking what I don't like" cause.
What is actually wrong with the he remake? Is it just a meme or is there some kind of glaring flaw?
>>319453485
Fuck off. Their HD Collection criticisms are spot-on (and I never said otherwise) but everything else they shit out is trash. They whine about anything that doesn't fit their headcanon and act like they are some kind of de facto authority on the series when they're really just a group of autistic faggots.
>>319453635
Different voice actors, sound and video issues out the ass.
They didn't have the source code for SH2, and had to work with the beta version. Meaning they had to spend time fixing bugs the original team already fixed. Meaning there's a lot of bugs and issues in the HD collection that weren't in the original games. If you want a huge in detail explanation of the issues: see >>319453485
>>319451820
He only says "oh I didn't see it" to all my points. You're agreeing with him cuz it's the cool thing to hate on Downpour. Fuck off.
>>319451724
>all empty
How's it empty? It had a lot of things going on like all weird industrial shit like pipes and whatnot.
>won't repeat myself.
Okay...if you actually did everything in the game you would realize there's far more than one track and it's not played 75% of the time. Yes you can basically keep going straightfoward and that's what you'll get, but that's not where the good in the game is. The good shows up in all the things that you can do, not just one.
>I can sign everything TwinPerfect said about that shitty game, and they didn't even show all the technical issues I personally had with the game.
>I would much rather replay both HC and 0rigins than this shitty "thing" that has SH on the cover.
Downpour was made to be a hate machine since its announcement. Eastern Euro devs, different guy on music, etc. Give it a non-biased play and you'll be surprised.
>I finished it. In a hindsight, I have no idea why.
Then you would know that the game has the smoothest controls of all Silent Hill games. I have no idea how you get inaccurate from them because they are far more friendlier than ones in other Silent Hill games.
My point with this whole thing is that yeah the game's not amazing it's far from it, but it's not all horrible either. It's easily better than Homecoming and Origins.
This topic is an excellent example of blind hatred based on judging a book by its cover.
>>319453810
You seem pretty upset over internet personalities. Maybe you should take your autism pills.
>>319453485
>lied about content in a game and then claimed later it was just a joke when developers found out about it
>are triggered by the term "reimagining"
>always, ALWAYS have the mindset of "all of you guys are stupid, only we know about Silent Hill" which even went into their recent SH4 video
>>319454016
>This topic is an excellent example of blind hatred based on judging a book by its cover.
This comment is an excellent example of blind ignorance based on ignoring actual criticisms brought up.
>>319453604
They have a very rigid interpretation of the mythos of a series that is intentionally left vague by the creators. And they routinely shit on anything that conflicts with their interpretation of the series. They are pretentious assholes that appeal primarily to unthinking retards who can't form their own interpretations.
>>319454319
>copied a comment they just read on youtube
please fuck off
>>319454016
I'm >>319453313
I clearly don't hate Downpour. But it sure as shit isn't better than Origins of Homecoming, and it in no way has the smoothest controls. It might actually have the worst. That isn't enough to ruin the game IMO but you are crazy if you think it controls better than the others.
>>319454458
Wait, what? They actually got so bothered by criticism they read comments off?
But seriously, watch their SH4 revisiting video. They constantly drill "NO, THE ROOM WAS NEVER A SILENT HILL GAME GUISE, EVEN IF THE DEVELOPERS SAY IT WAS, THEY'RE LYING"
the guys from twin perfect might be faggots, but that still doesn't change the fact that everything that came after 3 was garbage
4 had potential, but the backtracking and escort mission killed it
>>319454373
Except I hit most of the main criticisms that cause nerds to sperg out instead of ignoring them, and I said the game's nowhere near being a damn good game either.
>>319453305
it's the most broken and otherwise raped version of the game out there.
Tons of glitches, missing visuals, destroyed audio, terrible new voice-acting, HUGE framerate issues, random crashing... etc and so on. Plus x360 version of the "HD" "Collection" was never patched even as little as the PS3 version.
>>319453635
you mean the HD Collection? That's no remake of any sort. It is a total DEmake, made out of early alpha code, ported by a no-name mobile-app developers.
Pic VERY related.
>>319449223
No, Akira doesn't give a fuck about SH.Still like his music though
>>319454234
Nice deflection, anon. I wish I could say it was unexpected but sadly TP drones routinely rely on such tactics because they can't form their own coherent arguments.
>>319454982
And he said this... when?
Last time I saw anything about him, he said that he'd gladly make new material for a SH game, if he was only asked. He's also been talking quite highly of his Team Silent days.
>>319454751
They were hardly garbage. If you actually played horror games outside of SH1-3 you might actually appreciate them more. The original games were the best by far but 4, Origins, Shattered Memories, and Homecoming were all decent games. Downpour was passable if you take it as its own thing and not a SH game.
>>319455008
>TP drones
gr8 b8 argum8 th8r m8.
How about you try to give us some "arguments" why we should NOT listen to TwinPerfect's perfectly fine and super-detailed analysis / review of the HD Collection, besides your unhealthy personal agenda against their style or few individual things they may have said in their videos?
different Anon, btw.
>>319455206
>Heather is a kind of character who has never been seen in any game before
Okay, I love Heather and SH3 but that's fucking laughable.
>>319455392
>HD Collection
See >>319453810 and work on your reading comprehension.
>>319455334
>If you actually played horror games
let's be real anon, nothing that came after 3 comes close to the first three fatal frames or the first 2 forbidden sirens
"decent" doesn't cut it
>>319455334
I can give you 4 and SM,
but HC and 0 were terri-bad.
I also give SM a free pass only because its mood and plot captivated me. As a game, it's laughably poor.
>>319455465
how's so? Keep in mind that up until that point, the typical idea of a female MC was literally the Lara Croft caricatures, the only slightly more original and different take being the NOLF.
>>319455206
He just wrote music and did sound effects, he wasn't involved with the games any more than that, even while he was producer of SH 3-4 he didn't actually know what the games were about.
In an interview about Homecoming he said that Homecoming was the first game in which the player started outside of Silent Hill and that is which made it special, while silent hill 3 and 4 games he was the PRODUCER of both started in different towns
>>319455573
The Room is fantastic though. It's arguably the scariest game in the series too.
>>319455895
Yeah, no. I'd rather play Homecoming than The Room.
The only good thing about 4 was the story. Too bad everything else was too crap to enjoy that.
>>319455392
>gr8 b8 argum8 th8r m8
Stopped reading there. Faggot.
Different anon, by the way
>>319449569
How?
>>319455872
>He just wrote music and did sound effects, he wasn't involved with the games any more than that,
you don't seem to understand the sheer amount of work and dedication required in all that. A high level professional artist for films and games does not just "do stuff", they need to know what the scene is all about, what kind of emotions and atmosphere it is supposed to evoke, and in game's case also take into account the possible quickly changing, interactive design of the product.
He was also THE producer for SH2, and one of the only members to truly participate in the development of all SH games up until DP. He may not have been in his best role at all times, but he definitely was amongst the key structures holding up the series.
>>319448415
It's better than homecoming.
>>319456262
>*He was also THE producer for SH3
fixed that before someone mentions the mistake
>>319456359
SH3 was pretty much his baby.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/TyYelKI.png "latest[1].png")
>>319455895
>the scariest
I liked how the game gave you a false sense of security with the regenerating health and then took it away, and pic related is arguably the best designed monster in the SH franchise
but you just can't have horror without solitude and darkness
going through every area for a second time was a great opportunity to introduce the otherworld, dark world and give you a flashlight, but they fucked it up
>>319456123
>not the music
>not the hauntings
>not the false sense of security that your apartment gives you
Also, SH2 is arguably the weakest in the series if story doesn't mean a thing, since it's neither, nor difficulty.
>>319456262
> they need to know what the scene is all about, what kind of emotions and atmosphere it is supposed to evoke
>>319456262
>He was also THE producer for SH2
Akihiro Imamura was the producer of SH2, get your facts straight
>Love the original SH games and played them all dozens of times
>just recently replayed RESI Remake for the first time in a decade, with the HD Remaster version
I remembered it being good, but jesus fuck it felt totally AMAZING after all these years! Pretty as a button, atmospheric as hell, and it actually felt like SURVIVAL-horror.
What the hell happened in 2000-2004? How'd the devs make these amazing horror games so good back then? And so good LOOKING to boot?
>>319457012
my bad
>>319456262
actually no... maybe in the original games but you can find an interview online where he sad that he created music for Homecoming while not even knowing what was game about.
>>319456525
>gave you a false sense of security with the regenerating health and then took it away
Holy SHIT, this, this this.
The first time I went back to the apartment, heard spooky sounds, and saw my health didn't regenerate, I shat bricks. I absolutely loved the apartment, mechanically and visually.
Agree about the darkness thing though. Way too many working lights.
There should be a Silent Hill game taking place in space!
>>319456525
>>319457301
We already had P.T. which did it WAY better.
>>319457392
there should be silent hill game that takes place in silent hill. We didn't have that for more then 10 years.
>>319457506
Except with PT there was always a lingering sense of dread. The apartment felt like a safe haven until midway through the game.
>>319457301
it's what silent hill 1 did, although a tad more subtle
(giving you the radio and making it not work in the sewers, giving you maps, but none for Nowhere)
SH2 did it with the part where you had to leave all your equipment, and the part where your flashlight stopped working
I really like it when horror games just pull the rug under you like that
>>319456915
A few things. Capcom Production 4 had AMAZING artists. Shinji Mikami wanted the backgrounds to stay pre-rendered for the sake of consistency, so the character models could be that much better looking, since they're really the only things there outside of pre-rendered images and the lighting. The REmake models were used all the way up to RE5 Gold.
Team Silent on the otherhand also had amazing artists, but the reason THEIR games looked so good was technical trickery up the asshole. Fog, having multiple models for how far away the character was or for cutscenes, AMAZING texturework.
Also, neither game ran at 60fps.
>>319457506
P.T. was as generic as they fucking come. Which was the point.
>>319457506
PT was like fun-house for kids. Spooky yes but nothing more.
>>319457593
All the games with the exception of The Room had you in Silent Hill. So I don't know what you're talking about.
>we'll never get a new SH game that takes place in the Old Silent Hill area
>>319457506
there was no sense of security in P.T. from the start
and the enemy design was kinda disappointing, considering this is SH we're talking about
>>319448415
That thing where your clothes would kinda rustle on your back was cool.
>>319455573
I already said the first three Silent Hills are by far the best. The Siren games are shit though. Fatal Frame is a much better horror series, as was RE before 4 happened.
>>319455680
>how so
>every female character before SH3 was a Lara Croft ripoff
My fucking sides. Pic related was in a game two years before SH3. A horror game, no less. Why does it seem like SH fans only ever played that series? I mean it's my favorite horror series too but christ there's a lot of other stuff out there that you probably shouldn't be ignorant of if you're a fan of the genre.
>>319457726
Those non team silent crations ....They look like a games to you?
>>319457906
>The Siren games are shit though
they're better than post 3 SH and RE when it comes to the spook factor
Can we all agree Eileen is best girl?
>Friendly and funny
>Cute
>Despite getting beaten, stabbed and sliced to near-death, she still willingly tries to help you fight shit.
>Helps read for Henry since he's a dirty illiterate mexican
>>319457906
Forgot the pic.
>>319457906
>The Siren games are shit though.
Even to this day, the Siren games still scare the hell out of me.
>>319448415
>>319448686
>>319449060
Fuck these twin perfect faggots, it was playable.
By far the worse enemy designs in a silent hill ever but murphy was probably one of the best silent hill protagonists just for being able to actually see the fear in his face while things got spoopy.
>>319458127
I never really cared for the Room but Henry can't read?
>>319458076
But they played like ass though. The PS2 ones at least. I never bothered with the PS3 game so I don't know if that played any better.
>>319458264
>sightjacking a shibito
>you can hear it singing to itself
>>319458403
never had a problem with the way they played
some puzzles made me rage and the scenario system kinda ruined the immersion, but its atmosphere was top-notch
>>319458359
>By far the worse enemy designs in a silent hill ever but murphy was probably one of the best silent hill protagonists just for being able to actually see the fear in his face while things got spoopy.
Yeah, and one of the only ones that actually questioned where the fuck he was. Everyone else is like "Well, isn't this place strange" or say nothing.
>>319458359
Yeah, he actually sounded panicked as fuck when shit happened.
Especially when the red vortex thing starts eating him and he screams like a little girl. Good shit.
I liked Murphy, he was a protagonist with an immediate purpose.
>>319458610
Well, Henry was all "What the hell?" and such and just assumed he was dreaming. So he SORTA questioned it.
>>319459153
Yeah, SORTA.
>>319458264
I must just be weird than, because I didn't find those games (or Silent Hill 1, for that matter) scary at all. I agree with >>319458551 that the atmosphere in them was fantastic but it wasn't enough to make up for the rest in my opinion. Personally I'm glad Toyama moved on toGravity Rush.
>>319458610
I liked the Murph too but the bizarre, almost clueless behavior of the characters from the older games was part of the charm. It gave the games a surreal, almost dream-like quality because everyone was acting semi-normally despite all the shit going on around them.
>>319452163
underrated post, only good thing about DP
There's only two moments where this game does something that isn't awful.
1. When you go down to a basement when you first arrive to SH proper. You walk to the end of a dark corridor and suddenly you hear sounds behind you and disregard it as ambient sounds but then something is actually fucking attacking you and you have to bolt to the exit because you're still inexperienced and have no fucking idea what is going on.
2. That heart side-quest
That's literally it. This game is depressing and I just want it to fade away into complete obscurity.
>>319454734
>They constantly drill "NO, THE ROOM WAS NEVER A SILENT HILL GAME GUISE, EVEN IF THE DEVELOPERS SAY IT WAS, THEY'RE LYING"
No. What they say was SH4 didn't START OUT a Silent Hill game. It wasn't planned to be part of the series until it was already being made.
>>319460654
That's wrong though, as it was always developed as a Silent Hill game. The idea was just that they wanted to try something different with the series while they were making SH3. The difference was that wasn't meant to be a numbered sequel, that's it.
>>319461104
why would they make a new SH game when SH3 wasn't even half finished?
>>319461556
The Room and SH3 were developed by different staff at the same time.
>>319461689
why was the original name of the game Room 302 instead of Silent Hill X if it was always supposed to be a SH game?
>>319461967
it was originally meant to be a spinoff game, not a numbered sequel. Bit like Metal Gear Rising is to MGR, or Persona-games are to SMT.
>all these people saying you have to play SH4
Really you can just play 1-3 and be fine.
>>319461967
Room 302 was just the code name during development. Saying The Room wasn't meant to be a SH game based on that is like saying Sonic 4 wasn't meant to be a Sonic game because it was developed under the code name Project Needlemouse.
>>319462412
The only one you "have to" play is 1 prior to 3, and that's only if you want to see the full story.
>>319462146
if they wanted to make a spinoff why not call it Silent Hill X like all the western spinoff games.
always felt like a game what was changed to a SH game halfway through.
>completely different game mechanics
>broke the up to that point consistent art direction
>much lower budget title
>looks visually worste than SH2, SH3
>plot felt forced as it tried to make sense in the SH canon
>>319448415
It's better than Homecoming.
>>319455206
S-stop it Heather you shouldn't tease like that.
>>319452323
does 3 and 4 have either controller support or can be reasonably configured to a controller because the version of 2 i got was so shit that i went a bought a physical copy of it to play instead
>>319452584
What about shattered memories. Isnt that the one not bad western SH?
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Guys... is there any good survival horror games on PC, specifically on steam and therefore easy to get?
every time i search the tag on steam i get bullshit first person crap like outlast.
>>319462778
>if they wanted to make a spinoff why not call it Silent Hill X like all the western spinoff games.
because that's western and generic as fuck.
>always felt like a game what was changed to a SH game halfway through.
Never felt like that to me. It's also a well known, many times stated fact that the choice to make it into an actual SH title was done very early on during production.
>>319463138
>:)
>>319463239
all PC ports do have controller support by default, and SH3 is easily the best PC port of the bunch.
However, you still need to keep in mind that the games were made before Xinput (Xbox360 controller technology) was a thing, so they may not work quite correctly out of the box. If you however got an old DirectInput pad (Logitech, etc), it will work perfectly right away.
Then again, I played all of them with KB+M, or rather, with KB-only.
>>319463360
SM was a neat experience and one of my favorites, but as a game and horror-game, it's very lacking. I played it only for the atmosphere and story.
In my opinion:
SH = SH3 > SH2 > The Room > Homecoming = Origins > Downpour > a stinking pile of human faecal matter > Shattered Memories
>>319463572
>is there any good survival horror games on PC, specifically on steam and therefore easy to get?
Resident Evil: Remake HD Remaster.
Resident Evil 4 HD Remaster.
Penumbra: Overture + Black Plague
Condemned: Criminal Origins
Cry Of Fear
Resident Evil Zero is also getting an HD remaster in very near future.
>>319463360
The soundtrack was great and the snowstorm setting wasn't that bad either. Also Kaufmann was fucking great.
>>319463845
Thanks dude.
ive got/played all of those.
cry of fear is total dogshit though
>>319463586
I was using a PS2 to 360 converter that worked with my PC. What controller would i need to get to play them properly, I only have Xinput controlers. I'm a Physical copy fag but i also have a good PC, so if it is really that easy i might just buy the controller instead of hunting down the physical copies.
>>319463845
Condemned is so much easier to play with controller, it felt really good on it and it feels so off on kb+m. I bought it really close to release on PC so idk if they fixed the controller support for it by now.
>>319464264
you could always play them with your KEYBOARD (+ Mouse). That's how I play them; the tank-controls fit Arrows / WASD like a glove.
These ancient DirectInput Logitech controllers work wonders with older games. These cost like 15 bucks tops nowadays, and I think Logitech's also made an upgraded model that has a switch to change between X- and DirectInput modes.
I was totally pissed when the Xinput creeped into every single game, making this one almost obsolete. Thank god I found X360CE program later on.
>>319464596
>Condemned is so much easier to play with controller
I really don't agree. KB+M is so much better for any FPS game.
>>319463845
Cry of Fear is overrated.
>>319464864
eh, seems to me that it's over-HATED these days. It's not as spooky and creepy as Afraid Of Monsters: Director's Cut, which I'd also recommend (it's a HL1 mod too), but it was definitely a neat tribute to oldschool survival-horror games. The atmosphere and sound-design were neat, and some scenes were nothing short of concentrated NOPE.
>>319464767
I agree with you that kb+m is better for shooters but condemned had a pretty clunky gun system with sparse ammo that really incentivized the use of melee weapons more and i have always preferred controller for melee combat and other things that are generally less precise.
>>319465183
which ever rocks your boat.
to me, it's a "shooter", no matter the melee focus, and the mouse simply works the best for those.
>>319464123
haven't played shat mem
did they they changed Dr. Kaufman to be a shrink rather than the Alchemilla hospital director? His entire personality seems much different from the original game
>>319448415
I actually has some very, very good ideas in it. There were several time were I was apprehensive about going deeper into places. But the lack of monster variety kill the tension.
I played it a long time ago and still remember the gambler's basement, school play, that apartment with the record player, the basement with the power outage and the movie theater. Great ideas but no follow though.
>>319463572
Spooky's House of Jumpscares
>meme game
Hush, it's free, it can be beaten in one sitting and i personally think it really gets the basics of horror right. Its not anything amazing but it a s decent experience worth giving it a play.
>>319464767
>KB+M is so much better for any FPS
Not that guy but I do much better in FPS games with a pad
>>319465427
The whole game is totally different from the original SH. That's the whole point actually; SM constantly plays with your prior knowledge and expectations towards the familiar elements.
If you got Wii around, I recommend giving it a shot. The ports on PSP and PS2 are shitty in comparison.
>>319465586
So did I, back in the N64 days.
Got a PC a bit later, mastered the KB+M, now can't go back.
>>319465427
yes he's completely different, but his psycho sessions were kinda fun
>>319465829
I started on KB+M playing CS 1.6
Pad just feels so much more natural
>So did I, back in the N64 days.
Nigguh no one was good at FPS on that piece of shit controller idgaf what you say
>>319466058
>I started on KB+M playing CS 1.6
Same. That and the first Max Payne were my steps into the KB-controlled shooters. Pads definitely feel super clunky in comparison afterwards.
>Nigguh no one was good at FPS on that piece of shit controller idgaf what you say
Oh shit negro what did you just say??
You never had long-ass 4 player sessions of Goldeneye and Perfect Dark?
>>319465829
I still remember reading the Nintendo Power article announcing Shattered Memories. Not him but thanks anon, I think I'll get it.
>>319466058
>Pad just feels so much more natural
>>319466684
Not bait, I even play New Vegas on pad
>>319466459
>Same. That and the first Max Payne
Max Payne is actually the only game I prefer KB+M
>You never had long-ass 4 player sessions of Goldeneye and Perfect Dark?
I did, of both, and Red Faction was much more fun than both of them, at least the Perfect Dark Remake takes advantage of the second stick on the 360.
>>319448415
Murphy's screams were nice. Like, he actually sounded like he was in pain.
>>319467378
He was hilarious during the chase sequences though. Yelling "FUCK" and generally screaming like a little bitch.
