What are some good entry-level shmups? What would you recommend moving onto after I've gotten comfortable with those? Preferably PC please.
I think what matters most is you pick a game and get dedicated to it. Has to be 1 game.
I recommend Blazing Star as its kind of easy. Some games you will want to refer to a guide or videos, there is no way around it with being creative on your own.
get a bunch of mame roms and test things out.
EOSD
>Preferably PC please.
Mushihimesama. The best shmup on PC right now, is a recent port so you won't have to deal with shit like the game only supporting 640x480 windowed, and has a babby mode as well.
>>319323009
>Mushihimesama
you can just play it for free on mame
>>319321329
>Preferably PC please
>get emulator
>get Contra rom
enjoy
Vertically scrolling? Touhous have the best difficulty curve for newbies. Either EoSD if you want to play in order and can stand how much the graphics have aged or MoF if you want something that looks more polished. IN is often recommended but people don't realize that is a trap that will make you shit at bombing.
Horizontal scrolling I can't help you with, I don't like having an asymmetrical ship sprite.
>>319323147
I keep seeing this logic every time an emulatable game gets a PC port and I still don't get it. Unless you own the original arcade board it's still piracy, so you might as well pirate the PC version anyway if you're going down that route.
>>319321329
Most bullethells are fine for a beginner because you can put them on easy difficulty.
Try Crimzon Clover on Steam.
Crimzon Clover is pretty good and you can frequently get it for next to nothing on Steam. You could also just use MAME and play pretty much every classic arcade shmup like Dodonpachi, Giga Wing, etc. And some shmupfags will hate me for recommending it, but Jamestown is fun and beginner-friendly, although playing it won't really make you much better at most shmups.
There's also always 2hu as the obvious answer, and I'd say Perfect Cherry Blossom is probably the most scrub-friendly out of the ones I've played, but I'm honestly not a fan of the series.
>>319321329
>entry-level
Everything Edelweiss makes. Particularly Astebreed, which is on Steam.
>>319321329
Bacterion's a big guy.
>>319321329
>What are some good entry-level shmups?
Raptor: Call of Shadows
Tyrian 2000 (I think you can download that one free if you have a GoG account)
Jet's and Gun's Gold
All three are pretty amazing (each in slightly different way), and fairly forgiving. All three are PC games.
Also, /v/ is bunch of fucking cretins when they haven't thought of those as the first games to recommend.
>>319325252
No shmupfag plays western shmups at this point. The popularity of Touhou and other danmaku games has basically made it so that the only vocal audience for the genre are the people that play those types of shmups.
I loved Jets'n'Guns and liked Tyrian though.
>>319326206
>No shmupfag plays western shmups at this point.
That's the fucking problem: A) Tohou aren't shmups, and B) when somebody asks for a entry-level shmups, he is not asking for fucking Tohou. Anyone who knows even a little bit about the fucking genre should immediately recall the three most popular western Shmups of all fucking time, which are legendary for being both challenging, yet not disencouraging new players.
Seriously, if under this requests these three don't pop-up in your head, you don't know shit about the god damn genre, and you probably should not be answering requests about it in the first place.
>>319325252
All three of those are shit, each for different reasons.
>>319326578
What are the three ?
>>319327027
>What are the three ?
What three? You mean >>319325252 these ones, the ones that we were talking about the whole time? Following conversation must be hell for you.
>>319327027
I'm retarded and did not read thread please forget about me.
>>319321329
buy Dariusburst on steam
>>319326578
I don't personally disagree, I'm just saying that';s why nobody ever talks about/recommends those games.
Most of /v/ either hates shmups or has fucking retarded /jp/-tier taste in the genre and thinks they should all be Touhou.
>entry level shmups
I would say any of the 2hu or similarly styled "bullet hell" games
Gradius 3 is easily the easiest of the series though if you want to get into Gradius, but don't think it'll be easier than your standard bullet hell
>>319325252
>>319326578
>euroshmupfags
>>319326578
>genre purity fag
>tries to have a discussion about videogames on /v/ of all places
>surprised people are giving bad advice
>>319321329
>>>/vg/shmupg
![[HorribleSubs] Mangaka-san to Assistant-san to - 11 [720p].mkv_snapshot_10.02_[2014.06.17_14.48.18].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3o7nOHU.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Mangaka-san to Assistant-san to - 11 [720p].mkv_snapshot_10.02_[2014.06.17_14.48.18].jpg")
>>319326578
>>319325252
>euroshmups
>>319326578
wew lad
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/nz0227tzb9zor/shmupmame
>>319326578
You just sound like a Euro nationalist who keeps recommending Euroshmups and get uptight when someone doesn't take pride in Euroshit
There are other shmups out there that are neither Euroshit nor 2hushit and they are probably more likely to be recalled by players of the genre if they're not the /jp/edo type
>ask for shmups
>get bullethells
>>319328043
>>319328065
>>319328094
>>319328176
>>319328589
Wow. Just fucking wow. I heard /v/ shump fanbase was bad, but this >>319327671 guy did not lie - you people are fucking deranged.
>>319328902
Fuck off, faggot. Your taste is shit and you got called out on it.
>>319328902
>>319328902
Why are SHUMPs dead? Why did bullet hell win?
hey guys thanks for the responses I'm going to look into some of these off Mame and Steam. The euroshit doesn't really look that bad desu tho, probably give them a whirl later.
>>319328549
also go to the /vg/ shmup thread
it's less shitty than the /vr/ one and has a healthy mix of the genre. touhou basically isn't allowed, but everything else is.
there are a few shitposters who will whine about danmaku babies and there will be the inevitable >euroshmup posts but it's a lot better than this cancerous thread
>>319329170
>>319329335
take your obvious samefagging back to reddit
>>319329383
the twitch nature of them makes them more exiting to play for more people
>>319328902
lol
>>319323009
>Mushihimesama
EK YEE VOOOOOT
U WANT FRIED EGG RO WITH THAT?
CHING CHANG CHONG MISTA
yeah fuck that game. post good games not japshit.
>>319329605
>post in a shitty circle jerk with my fellow mouthbreathers where stuff we don't like isn't allowed, please
There's another website for faggots like you
>>319329605
>>319329605
>waaah people don't like my shitty games
>come to our circlejerk instead, it's a safe space
>>319329730
hey fuck you man, mushihimesama is great
>>319329804
touhou fans are cancerous. the games themselves aren't horrible but the people they attract are
there was a touhou thread on /v/ the other day and you want to know what 90% of the posts were? they were either about the girls or about that touhoumon game. no thank you.
>>319329450
for steam games I'd recommend danmaku unlimited 2 over crimzon clover personally. danmaku goes on sale for 99 cents and is more fun. nothing wrong with cc though
also sine mora is great for a euroshmup. has some annoying things, but it's got an interesting story and great art to make up for it
>want to buy dariusburst cs
>that price
>Don't want to pirate it either because I would want to support the game
goddamn
Gate of Thunder on the Turbographix/TurboDuo/PC-Engine is a good start imo
>>319321329
Undertale
Are there any modern SHMUPs that aren't one-hit-kill?
>>319330073
>there was a touhou thread on /v/ the other day and you want to know what 90% of the posts were? they were either about the girls or about that touhoumon game. no thank you.
Wow, people were talking about a new game? Fuck them, right?
>>319330382
Dariusburst.
>There are faggots who actually recommend that boring piece of shit Raptor.
>>319330504
it was a thread about the actual touhou games yet touhou fans are cancer and don't actually play them because bullet hells are hard :( so it devolved into talking about the girls, kantai collection, and that pokemon game
>>319323446
I don't know for mushihimesama, but I actually paid for the PC release of the gimped port or Metal Slug 3. I want to encourage PC rerelease but they should have at least the same features as the MAME version.
>>319331463
it was a bitbuggedfor a couple of days but they've got it working nicely now
>>319321329
Sure as hell not Gradius.
>die
>takes 35 power-ups to get back to max
Super Aleste (Space Megaforce) on SNES was pretty easy and has infinite continues. Just emu it mang. Also there's a Cotton game on SNES that's so ridiculously easy that babbies could beat it.
>>319331463
I thought it was a pretty solid port. Has novice, normal, arrange, 1.5 modes, online leaderboards, replay saving and uploading, training mode, borders, rebindable controls, etc.
I didn't think the MSlug 3 port was that bad either. Could've done with some borders and less cheap looking menus.
>>319329848
XD upboated good sir!
>>319330073
>there was a touhou thread on /v/ the other day and you want to know what 90% of the posts were? they were either about the girls or about that touhoumon game. no thank you.
This is the most butthurt thing I've heard on /v/ in a while. I didn't find anything of interest in that thread either, but if you ask me the people who complain about touhou fans are cancerous.
>>319331135
I always thought I was the only one who thought it was boring.
>>319331463
What's wrong with the Mushi port?
>>319331583
>a bit bugged
the scaling was wonky, controller support too and the most outrageous: no free playing mode for the first 6 months.
>>319331869
It didin't work that well on release, and the devs weren't that responsive about the issues. Which is kinda sad when you could play the mame ver. from the get go with no problem whatsoever.
I hope it was better for X, still haven't bought that one.
>>319321329
Ikaruga.
>>319332194
we were talking about mushihimesama anon
>>319321329
op post your email so i can hook you up with a copy of astebreed
>>319331836
that's why it's good to emulate it and use savestates
>>319331836
You're not supposed to die.
>>319321329
Gradius, son
>>319321329
>What are some good entry-level shmups?
Gradius III SNES in an emulator.
>Preferably PC
Look up ABA Games. Download Noiz2sa, rRootage, Torus Trooper, Parsec 47, Tumiki Fighters, and actually probably all the rest of his shooters.
>>319321329
have you heard of Sine Mora? Jets'n'Guns?
Those are available on PC and both are solid fun for either newb or a seasoned wanker
>>319335061
>Sine Mora
Fuck off, retard.
>>319336245
sine mora is a great game. it's just not good if your only enjoyment with shmups is going for a high score or a 1cc
>>319336245
you're welcome, Mr. Nice Person Sir
>>319336359
Sine Mora is fucking garbage and it's garbage regardless of how you play shmups. The only thing it has going for it is pretty graphics to appeal to casuals.
>>319336359
yes, but that's some oldfag-tier arcade stuff, and OP has clearly stated that they want an accessible, enjoyable stuff for a newcomer.obviously, the way he worded "preferrably on PC" should give away true intentions of this thread
>>319336418
what don't you like about it? I really dislike how the powerups are random and how you're worthless without thembut that can be fixed with cheatengine
My favorite ever is Psyvariar. I wish they fucking released Psyvariar 2 on something. Something!
>>319336418
>The only thing it has going for it is pretty graphics to appeal to casuals.
>OP specifically asks for "entry-level" stuff
>game actually has solid gameplay
Do you even know how words work, retard?
>>319336793
>Low contrast bullets
>Inconsistent terrain hazards: most environment objects will block your bullets if they'll kill you on touch but others won't, giving you no way to know they'll kill you until you've just died by ramming them
>Gameplay is constantly interrupted by cutscenes that can only be fast-forwarded
>Health in the form of time
>Boring level design
>Standard enemies are almost entirely worthless, most of the game is about the bosses
>Boring bosses
>Shit music
>>319336727
>Sine Mora
>oldfag-tier arcade stuff
Are you braindead?
>>319337053
>>game actually has solid gameplay
No it doesn't, faggot.
>>319321329
Layer Section/Galactic Attack/RayForce is a great one that isn't too insanely difficult.
Once you level up, Donpachi and DoDonpachi.
Battle Garegga is also sweet. You can easily emulate the arcade versions of all of them.
i fucking love gradius games but im shit at them
played the fuckout of the collection on PSP
>>319337134
>>Sine Mora
>>oldfag-tier arcade stuff
>Are you braindead?
Just as i expected - you can not read
>>319337005
>I wish they fucking released Psyvariar 2 on something. Something!
What do you mean? You know it was released on a bunch of consoles back in the day, right?
space invaders (1999)
amazing fucking game
>>319337376
If we are going down that road: Defender.
Defender really surprised me with how amazing it is.
But play the original arcade version on MAME, it's important for the best experience.
>>319325252
>>319335061
>>319337376
>>319337773
>all these awful suggestions
Just go buy DARIUSBURST on Steam, or emulate Darius Gaiden. Both are better than 99% of the garbage recommended in this thread.
>>319337283
I'm pretty good at Gradius, but even I fear Gradius III for the arcade.
Level 7, 9 and 10 are so far beyond human capabilities that the mere notion that anyone was meant to beat it without savestates is absolutely ridiculous.Still the best in the series
>In Parodius, the Vic Viper ship is abandoned in a desolate cave where she eventually gains sentience
Would you?
>>319338358
I'd shoot her core.
>>319321329
I WAS BORN OUT OF THE GREEDINESS OF MANKIND
I didn't know euroshmupfags existed. Someone's gotta be playing them I guess.
>>319338174
>tfw the collection on PSP came with the arcade gradius 3
JUST
>>319338564
#notalleuroshmups
>>319338564
Every kid had Gradius here inSwedenwhere I grew up, but nobody wanted to take the next step to get Salamander and all that other good shit but me.
>>319338660
You have infinite credits at least. It must have been Lucifer himself who added an option to remove the slowdown though, have fun with Big Core mk.III and that lizard core.
>entry level
On PC I'd say Jamestown, Crimzon Clover's novice mode and/or QP Shooting, if you can look past that horrendous moeshit look (turn off story elements in the options for the love of god).
>after I've gotten comfortable with those
Darius Gaiden, Raiden 2, Xevious, maybe Ketsui or another Cave game if you dig bullet hell shooters. Try to branch out, though, there's a lot out there.
Ultimately you should just try shit out until you find one you like.
>>319337236
I can't stand shmups unless the stage 1 song is good. That's why Darius Gaiden and Battle Garegga are my favorites.
http://youtu.be/Szr0TSXcWok
>>319339042
>Can't even make it to stage 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuJGhdLFr7g&list=PL629E2122758FA337&index=3
>>319339025
>QP Shooting, if you can look past that horrendous moeshit look (turn off story elements in the options for the love of god).
Only the most serious of serious games are suitable for this serious gamer anon.
>get far in a gradius game
>maxed out power ups
>die before boss
may as well reset
>>319339480
Well then he should keep the story elements on. Makes the game a lot harder to see all the way through.
>>319339480
>not liking moe makes you a fedora
What?
>>319339518
But you always get at least 3 powerups before a boss, which is enough towait for it to self-destruct
Also, the regular pea-shot is surprisingly powerful.
>>319339025
QP Shooting's story is so completely intentionally retarded that it's mildly fun unless you just hate anything with animu girls.
The main problem with the game is that the area around your character is so busy that it can be difficult to precisely dodge bullets. But other than that it's a pretty good game and probably the best OJ shmup.
>>319330275
/Thread
Thunder Force III is insanely easy to 1cc once you get past the very beginning of Gorgon and also Haides.
>>319339952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnLAC5AJPuM
dat ost
>>319339923
But Undertale isn't a SHMUP, it's an Earthbound with Touhou elements.
Horizontal: Any of Konamis flagships really. Namely Gradius, Parodius, or Lifeforce. Also R Type by Irem
Vertical: Toaplan (Truxton, Fire Shark), Treasure (Radiant Silvergun, Ikaruga), Compile (MUSHA), and the Raiden games
These are just old school suggestions though. Haven't dug too deep into bullet hell
>>319339480
It's verbose and with a lot of words and takes a lot of time to read, time that could be spent actually playing a video game or maybe reading a manga or something if that's what you like look I won't judge I just want to play my video games sometime today man. I also don't much care for the story, but "I don't care for it" doesn't mean shit to anyone else.
>>319339852
It's more just how long it takes to get through that bugs me. At least Touhou you can easily skip through all the verbiage and get to the gameplay.
>>319329730
>not japshit
There are no good non japanese shoot em ups
>>319340076
>Haven't dug too deep into bullet hell
Going by every 2hu post I've ever seen for as long as I've lived, this seems like the sane choice.
I don't understand and I don't want to.
>>319340121
>It's verbose and with a lot of words and takes a lot of time to read
Nigger what? Each boss dialogue is as long as your own post.
>At least Touhou you can easily skip through all the verbiage and get to the gameplay.
You can do that in QP too.
1943 and raiden were pretty badass
i couldnt eveb neat first level
i might be color blind or something
This is the current best shmup out there in steam.
It will cost you many bux and your soul
http://store.steampowered.com/app/377870/
>>319340017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j92RMPcnWWs
aw yeah
also fans of metal squad will like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B92FJPZkfdc
>>319340304
>Each boss dialogue is as long as your own post.
Huh, I wonder if that was intentional.
>>319325252
>Tyrian
My nigga.
Anyway, just go buy a Dreamcast. There's so many great shmups in a wide range of style and difficulty and it's the simplest console piracy in history.
>>319340202
most of these aren't japanese though
>tfw those shitty SHMUPS on those shitty "consoles" that are just a box with RCA cables coming out of them
>>319340339
It honestly looks like crap. I bet the OST is good though
>>319337363
Not available for any baka gaijin
>>319340254
>Going by every 2hu post I've ever seen for as long as I've lived, this seems like the sane choice.
Shouldn't let a shitty fanbase dictate your decision on something. However, if you can't look past the /jp/, there's still a few bullet hell shooters that don't pander to otaku, like Crimzon Clover or the older DoDonPachi games. There's even Blue Revolver that's in development.
>Skim through the thread
>No Moais
What in the actual fuck is wrong with you people?
>>319340581
>Doesn't post even a single good game
Yeah, point made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RWQVaCMhYI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZirGXaNzYU0
i dont even mind watching someone else play gradius 3
>>319340581
>posting a troll image from a dead general
Good God, dude.
>>319338858
what gaym?
>>319340612
>looks like crap
Are you playing games or watching pretty pictures?
>that one kid who uses E-laser and the rotating option
>massive slowdown
>cheeses though the entire game
>>319338010
>darius gaiden
>the game where boss fights last 10 hours if you picked up an extra weapon powerup
>>319340612
>I bet the OST is good though
FREEDOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pife26u4tkQ
>>319340812
sine mora
>>319341061
Why would they get someone who couldn't sing? Is it the developer's mom or something?
>>319340612
>Not available for any baka gaijin
So download them off the internet? I played a burnt copy of Psyvariar 2 on my Dreamcast just fine back in the day.
>>319321329
R-Type Leo
No loops and not too hard. Good for a rather easy 1cc (especially the US version).
get a ps1 emulator and raiden project.
you can thank me later.
>>319341212
I want to say it's this chick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4J-xRKjDWE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4jD6AILz3U
Dat music playing during Iron Fossil
>>319341061
>>319341212
It's truly unfortunate that they used what is by far the worst song on the soundtrack as the promo song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwZ8BHm5zg0
>>319341435
Is R-Type worth playing? Haven't touched the franchise in 25 years. I remember when this was the hottest shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H_6b5t_6b8
>>319340686
Downwell is actually pretty good. It also happens to be Japanese.
>>319341539
What's the point when MAME can emulate them all properly now?
>>319341732
Yes, don't play wacky european ports though.
>>319341732
Of course it is. R-Type is the shit.
I played a cave game for the first time. It was Mushihimesama because I found it on steam. Never knew there was a cave game on the PC so that was a nice find. Anyway, heard some good things about it so I gave it a try. Can't say I was impressed however. Cave games usually get hyped up to be really hard so I was excited, but after playing I'm not seeing it. I 1cc maniac after two tries and ultra in about 11 if I remember correctly. The vast majority of patterns were very simplistic in nature and lack any sort of creativity (like something I would expect from an amateur indie game dev making their first shoot em up rather than a company who has been in the business for years). It was basically all streaming during stages. Bosses were pretty simple to deal save for the true boss at the end, which is the reason why it even took me so many tries to clear ultra, but once I got that memorized it wasn't so bad. The last true boss had some streaming so it was easy until I got to the last pattern. It was just really dense and lasts really long. If you saved your resouces you can just bomb the whole thing.
The general idea in the game is to give you super fast bullets and really dense patterns. I'm not a fan of this type of gameplay honestly. You don't really have much time to read the bullets so it all comes down to muscle memory or pattern memorization usually. Hitboxes are very forgiving too. Don't even get me started on the lag; it gets trivial to dodge once that happens. I seen the slow down in a lot of cave videos. They really should fix that.
kimi nara dekiru yo
Explain to me again why it's so fucking addictive to die die die
>gradius
>entry level
>not the best shump ever
keep pretending your nip squeeze shit is hardcore
faggot
>>319339306
love that games soundtrack
such a shame we'll never see anything like it again
>>319342146
Ok, now play for score like a real man.
>>319341659
What an ugly game. It looks like a one-man fan game.
The original Darius looked better than that.
>>319340993
That system is bullshit, no doubt. The main reasons I love it are the graphics, the world and atmosphere, and the shield system that lets you fuck up once in a while without dying.
>>319339518
Last boss in a Gradius game is EZPZ.
>>319342406
Eh, it was pretty shit after level 2.
>>319342393
Gradius games are actually much, much harder than bullet hells.
>>319342393
entry level doesn't mean bad
just accessible
>>319342414
I didn't like the game. Why would I waste time doing a score run? Probably gonna go see if there is another cave game I can try on the pc before I decide this franchise just isn't for me.
>>319342146
>If you saved your resouces you can just bomb the whole thing.
Stop playing on novice
>>319340670
can't wait for MOAI THE SLOT
>>319342589
futari runs pretty nicely in mame
I like it more than the first game, but not sure how much you'll like it if you didn't care for the first onealso I'm a filthy casual and a big part of why I like it is the setting and bosses
>>319342705
It was on normal. Other options were arrange whatever that is and version 1.5 which looks like it just has updated graphics and nothing else. Is it harder?
>>319343001
1.5 changes more than graphics. give it a shot.
>>319327902
>Gradius 3 is easily the easiest of the series
If you're talking SNES version, maybe. The arcade version is by far the hardest.
>>319341839
Arranged ost.
>>319343152
But then you have load times, and all the other bad shit relating to emulating it on PS1.
It's not worth it.
>>319343126
It's the easiest to feel justified cheating in since it's completely broken and unreasonably hard.
>>319324295
>Jamestown
i back this, jamestown's rad
>>319342464
>>319343001
Novice is the only mode in which you can bomb the TLB
I've got MAME with Dodonpachi and DDP Daioujou, what are some other shmups I should download for it?
>gradius TAS speedruns
>>319342146
>If you saved your resouces you can just bomb the whole thing.
Had me going until then.
>>319343420
Darius Gaiden, Raiden 2, Gradius 2.
>>319343420
rayforce, in the hunt, ketsui, mushihimesama futari
No love for stuff like Pop'n'twinbee?
>>319343775
Winbee has so much great porn. I love it.
What do you think about Strania?
>>319340581
Just stop posting forever.
>>319345403
>>319345518
You're right, your autism entitles you to shitpost across several boards.
No wait, fuck you.
>>319341732
R-type is the greatest shit. My favorite is 3, don't know why but I fucking love it. Though don't play the Euro versions.
>>319341839
>>319346604
What's wrong? They can't Probotector a starship, right?
>>319321329
THUNDER FORCE 4
AND 5
STEEL OF JUSTICE MOTHERFUCKERS
>>319347039
WHAT ABOUT 6
>>319346710
You would be surprised. Also on a side note I remember someone tried to convince me that Probotector was better than Contra.
>>319347401
I mean, all the freaky shit is still in there, so why not?
>>319347887
I said that its cooler with the humans. Gives it that Aliens vibe and shit. I mean still to this day, due to the original Contra cover, I want to see a Aliens movie where Stallone and Arnold blast through a bunch of Xenos. Sadly their time has come and gone. While they might be fit they are too old for the roles.
>>319325252
>Jet's and Gun's Gold
My childhood right there. Anyone who has a problem with this game can just bite me.
Does R-Type have the best story/lore in shmups?
>>319349252
Considering most usually don't have lore I would say yes. In some degree.
>>319349252
Starting at Delta, the R-Type games easily has the DARKEST story in any shmup.
>>319349252Touhou
>>319348829
>Sadly their time has come and gone. While they might be fit they are too old for the roles.
Voice acting + CGI
>>319350153
I know but it won't feel right, you know? For Contra and Super C they always had this 80's action movie kinda vibe and it would be weird seeing it with CGI everwhere.
Though I would kill for a Contra movie, a Super C movie, and finally a Contra 3 movie. Maybe GCI could work for a Hard Corps movie or something.
>>319325252
Tyrian was my shit nigga. Has a tame difficulty curve except for certain levels like Gyges, awesome soundtrack, and cool map design.
>>319349810
What about DoDonPachi?
>>319352390
It has lore? Where can I look it up?
>>319353202
>>319353202
Have fun going through despair
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/dodonpachi/dodonpachi2.htm
>>319343258
So just the load times if you aren't retarded?
>>319321329
Thunder Force 3.
