http://www.polygon.com/2015/12/7/9864448/overwatch-will-receive-additional-heroes-and-maps-for-free
How does this make you feel, /v/?
lied to
>>319318407
can't really stay interested, it's just like a somehow more simplistic version of tf2. it got boring pretty quick
glad to see they aren't putting in microtransactions at least
And if someone ( understandably ) has problems with Polygon, here it is straight from the mouth of the horse
https://youtu.be/OKG8Yx6F7uc?t=36
Hyped.
>>319318407
I want to fuck that gorilla man.
People will still find a reason to hate it because
>blizzard
However, now that this is confirmed, I'm ready to preorder. The game is already fun as shit and isn't a movie or walking simulator like most garbage coming out these days.
>>319318871
Yeah, this is a very big selling point to me. While I didn't really think Blizz would pull shit like charging for characters, or at least not without also allowing unlocks through playing, it's very nice to have it confirmed.
>>319318407
Well now I'll probably buy it
>>319318407
This game should still be free.
It's not worth $40-60
>>319318407
>linking polygon
FUCK OFF
I feel like I'm updating at about 128 ticks.
Remember when blizz said there will be no microtransactions in wow?
>>319319756
A post was already made for you, friend >>319318605
>>319320134
Can you remind us, with links/images preferably?
I think it just reinforces the fact that Blizzard dosent have long term faith for this game.
Releasing the game for $20 and charging for add on's would have been much better in the long run.
With a $60 release they can get a lot very quickly with minimal risk.
Also advertising your game as a competitive e sport while simultaneously saying 20 tick servers are an artistic choice is a huge red flag.
>>319319309
Explain why it should be free retard
>>319320441
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/18706671406
Probably the best he can do. Searching it in Google yields nothing but links about them adding microtransactions.
>>319320753
>It's shit that they're gonna have microtransactions
>no they're not
>It's shit that they're not gonna have microtransactions
There's no pleasing people, is there?
Also, is " 20 tick servers " the new "input delay"?
>>319321028
Fair enough. But, and correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the microtransactions in WoW just cosmetic stuff like unique mounts and pets and whatnot?
>>319321430
Not anymore. They added level boosts to the game as well as tokens.
You buy a token wich is 1 month of game time and then you can sell it to other people for ingame gold. You can literally buy gold now.
>>319321691
Well, that's not great. I guess when the game's that old and trying to keep a fading playerbase interested, they're bound to try stuff like this. I wouldn't say it's inarguably bad, but it's definitely not the best answer.
>>319321257
Can anyone actually explain to me, in layman's terms, what this " 20 tick " stuff actually means? I've heard it a few times now, and while I'm almost certain it's asshats taking something completely insignificant and blowing it up like it's the worst thing in video games, I'd like someone who knows things to tell me what the deal is.
http://www.pcgamer.com/all-of-overwatchs-post-launch-maps-and-heroes-will-be-free/
PCGamer reports on it as well
>>319321904
>Keep fading playerbase interested
>Add gold buying
They could have added the tokens only to be sold for ingame cash, not $.
>>319322223
How often the server updates where you are
it's a very real problem that blizzdrones are trying to ignore or undermine
The reason blizzard and r6 siege have garbage tick rates is because it evens the playing field between better players and retards a little more so their casual playerbase doesn't get stomped too hard.
>>319322467
Wait, you didn't explain anything, you just told me how it's a server thing and it's bad and used words like casual and blizzdrones. Could you please actually explain it without sounding like a dickhead?
>>319321028
Here goes my preorder blizz, you wont fool me again
This game was supposed to be fucking free. How am I supposed to pirate this game??? Fuck Blizzard. I will not actively shit on this game every chance I get
>>319322646
>This game was supposed to be fucking free
[citation needed]
>>319322646
>This game was supposed to be fucking free.
Literally no one ever said it would be free.
Based Sony
Blizz should work on d3e2 not this pice of shit casualfest
>>319322638
He literally explained it in the first sentence you retard
It's how many ticks/s the game runs on. More ticks = higher resolution simulation, basically.
>>319322638
>How often the server updates where you are
>this and the picture isn't enough also I can't use google
>please force feed me
Oh sorry I should've excepted you were asking your question ironically and wouldn't be convinced no matter what
Nothing will satisfy you because you're either
a.) retarded and need everything written out for you down to the last punctuation mark because thinking for yourself is hard (everything meaning : all things; all the things of a group or class.)
or
b.) a blizzdrone who can't accept fact
Enjoy your 20 tickrate (see >>319322467
for what tickrate is or alternatively http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tickrate) garbage, I won't be buying this shit game
>>319318407
still not caring?
They fucked up marketing , tried to hype things up with low availability and killed interest all together.
>>319319042
>While I didn't really think Blizz would pull shit like charging for characters
k e k
>>319322467
It doesn't even matter with R6 siege because it's such a slow game.
Playing it like cownna stwike is the worst way to play the game.
>>319322646
>I will not actively shit on this game every chance I get
good, fuck off
Not gonna buy it.
Not until they put in a hot goth girl.
>>319323301
>>319323321
I'm sorry that I'm not good with technical shit,, but " How often the server updates where you are " and a picture of a differing number of dudes in a line with numbers below isn't enough to fucking clarify this. What does this mean? How does this actually affect the game? Does it at all matter? What is a good amount?
That was not an attempt at an explanation at all, that was him using the opportunity to shit on a developer and fanbase he doesn't like thinly veiled as an explanation. If I wanted to just listen to self-important fucktards pretending to know what they're talking about when it comes to supposed technical flaws as an excuse to feel justified in not liking a thing, there's already plenty of threads for me to look at. You are literally doing the thing I said that I thought you'd fucking do in in the post, and then you give me shit for calling you out on it. Of course, I don't know why I expected a follow-up, actual explanation from the sort of fucking cretin who honestly uses terms like " -drone ".
And I thought of googling it, shithead, everything I came across was technical babble that I don't understand, that's why I asked if anyone could tell me what the deal is in laymen's terms. Fuck you.
>>319323935
come play killing floor 2
>>319318407Just pre-ordered it now. That's all I needed to hear
>>319324321
>Please give us more money to not finish the game floor 2
Yeah, naw.
>>319324321
Unf.
>>319318770
>>319324321
I said hot, not man face mc buzzcut
>>319318407
Glad to hear it. The buy2play wall will keep a lot of the idiots out.
>>319324460
>those lumps on her back
This is not how my waifu should be represented.
>>319324321
>buying a game almost the price of overwatch
>not finished
>2 patches in 7 months
>second patch was microtransactions
>>319324774Then post your collection fagit
>>319324774
That's the part of the jumpsuit that's ribbedfor her pleasure
Bad.
Theres 21 FUCKING HEROES ALREADY BLIZZ JUST STOP!!!!!
>>319324991
Nah we at least need enough so that every class has the same amount of heroes.
Three supports will get old real fast.
>>319322467
It only really matters with stuff like counter-strike and quake, where there's so much going on in such a short time that each tick really does make a difference. Overwatch seems like a slower shooter with a much longer ttk than CS, plus other "slower" competitive games like Dota and Starcraft only have around 30 tickrate.
It could be shitty though for all I know, but you can't really judge until you've played.
$40 is still too much. If it drops to $20 or less in a sale I'll buy it.
>Linking to polygon
Fuck off.
>>319318407
this game feels like a wasted opportunity.
TF2 gets away with being a multiplayer only game because valve didn't put much thought into a backstory. It's just bare minimum. LIke "This guy thinks WW2 is still happening so he's crazy" and "two brothers made up rival teams to fight each other"
So overwatch gets all this expanded backstory about an epic defense force that saved the world and then disbanded and now there are bad guys back again. And just stays as a multiplayer where even a couple of certified terrorists are labelled as "heroes". It makes literally no sense in the context. This game is begging for extended coop single player campaign about the main characters fighting terrorists and big robots and monsters and we get none of it. Just a few generic online modes.
They saved all the story for some short episodes.
Blizzard could have saved a whole lot of money if overwatch was just a webisode series and not some game that has none of what its expanded universe is about
![tumblr_inline_ny1ne4XESu1r54my5_500[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/GvEZdmm.gif "tumblr_inline_ny1ne4XESu1r54my5_500[1].gif")
>>319324929
Yeah but they're nowhere near THAT extreme.
>>319325073
What could they possibly do with another support???
>>319324321
>hot
I bet you like shooting zem
I'm sure they'll find another way to screw their playerbase, it's a staple of modern Blizzard titles.
>>319325327
Isn't this done by mostly new people?
Maybe it'll be fine
>>319325327
Diablo 3 un-screwed It's playerbase with things like removing the RMAH and has added new content for free throughout RoS.
So who knows.
>>319318407
>making people pay for new heroes and maps
game would die right on the spot if you had to pay anything for new content.
>>319324321
I like the gamemostly because i bought into the Tripwire would never jew us meme on release and cant refund itbut avoid it all costs until it actually is finished or on sale for 10 dollars.
>>319322223
As someone who has played quite a bit, 20 tick is a very real problem. I have a constant 40 ping and at least twice per match I'll see a projectile wiz past me, die a split second later and then see in the death cam that it was a perfectly landed shot.
>>319325487
Just because you pull out after you rape someone doesn't mean you didn't rape them.
>>319318407
/v/ will move the goal posts and find another reason to complain about the game. The thread already shows.
>>319325617
That's one retarded analogy.
>>319318407
hey guys, remember the good ol days when you unlocked new characters and content by beating the end of game boss to reward you for your hard work and perseverance?
Time we brought that back.
>>319325247
You're not wrong, but the artist decided to make 'em a bit bigger. Artistic interpretation and all that.
>>319320956
Well, being paid means it's going to be retard free. Not 100% of course.
>>319325387
The development might be new people but the publishers are the same old Blizzard.
>>319325690
For an online only game?
...Right
>>319325564
Okay, so what does that mean? That they hit you on their screen but not on yours, which then got adjusted serverside? Or something else?
>>319325815
I'm talking about games in general
![ii-M6Pu36pDw.878x0.Z-Z96KYq[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/F0jisJB.jpg "ii-M6Pu36pDw.878x0.Z-Z96KYq[1].jpg")
>>319325732
Well it makes her look gross and chunky, D.Va is a slender and cute goddess!
>>319325232
>Backstory and worldbuilding can only exist in a singleplayer campaign specifically for that purpose
Surely not, senpai
>>319325487
>free throughout RoS.
>free
>expansion
>>319326007
The thing is they came up with all this backstory and it only extends as far as their website. It should be in the game itself
>>319321257
>>319321257
Im just stating a fact. They way Blizzard is advertising this game and the way the game really is are two different things.
Having Micro transactions in a $20 game is reasonable.
>>319325838
Essentially it means that I was out of cover for a longer period of time, because the server and clinic had a disagreement about my position. Lower ping doesnt reduce this.
I wonder how they're gonna monetize the game to pay for additional heroes and shit, are they gonna sell skins?
>>319322373
They still need to profit from subs. If blizzard had vendors sell the tokens for gold they'd lose all their sub income.
>>319326242
Okay, see this sounds like an actually sensible explanation. Unless I misunderstood, though, .05 of a second seems like way too little time for something like that to be the case. Do you maybe have video of it happening or something?
>>319325564
I noticed this A LOT when I was a Pharah going against another one, her rockets would go passed me but then blow me up, and on the kill cam it would show them hitting me directly.
I knew I wasn't crazy
I like how he says that they've been hinting at new heroes.
I also like how he said at blizzcon that they have no plans for more heroes.
>>319327168
If I'm not wrong, they said no more heroes at RELEASE, and they were not sure if they'd ever add new ones at all. I'd say they just finally agreed internally that yes, they'd like to add some more eventually.
>>319327168
He meant it for the base version of the game, the 21 already in the best is all we get on release.
He only said that he's not yet sure if they're gonna add more post release and if they do how.
Now we know
It's good that characters/maps will be free, but notice that they didn't say ALL characters/maps will be free. I'll bet that you'll still have to pay for costumes and the like, which is inexcusable in a AAA sixty dollar video game.
This also doesn't fix the fact that they're trying to balance tons of different characters (it won't work), everybody moves like they're stuck in molasses (about on par with the Heavy in TF2, besides Tracer), and yes, 20 tick servers are going to be a problem.
will they offer private servers or not?
a modern competitive shooter on pc without the ability to have your own servers is retarded.
>>319327372
>in the best
in the beta
>>319324291
What the fuck is this autism
Consider suicide
>>319327656
>>319319309
Agreed it shouldn't be as expensive, but like $20 would be reasonable.
>wanting more games to be free to play garbage
go be a candy crush faggot elsewhere.
>>319327168
They probably have only concept art at the most. Seems like they're more focused on adding in content and balancing the heroes. Doesn't matter since,either way, we'll get all of them if we buy the game. Right now, they need to make sure there's a reason to keep coming back to the game in the first place. Give us single player missions, co-op, different game modes, UNLOCKABLE skins for characters and guns, shit even a MOBA mode would be nice. The game needs variety or else it's gonna die.
>>319327805
What does that mean, can you explain in layman's terms?
>>319323935
>What does this mean? How does this actually affect the game?
No sure how to explain it so a retard would understand it.
>Does it at all matter?
The better the player, the more important it is.
>What is a good amount?
The higher the tickrate the better, with diminishing returns.
That is, the difference between 20 and 64 is huge while the difference between 128 and 256 is far less noticeable.
128 is the standard for action games
30 for mobas.
20 for Overwatch.
>listen and believe
>they still never adressed the 20 tick anywhere
Keep dreaming ma boy, it's shit.
>>319322223
>2015
>doesn't understand tickrate
you don't belong here, underage newfaghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVmqv3z4gnA
>>319323935
Widowmaker isn't enough for you?
>>319328040
>Doesn't even link to the right post
Yeah clearly you're the guy I should listen to on technical accuracy.
>Doesn't explain what it actually is or why it matters
>But it really does and should be as high as possible because it's importance directly scales with player skill!
>>319328367
>spraying
>not using a4
>b2p
>cash shop
>>319328367
>video starts with perky greeting
goddamnit, this better be worth it anon
>>319328367
>Warowl
oh shit nigger what are you doing?!?
>>319325256
AoE damage boost, maybe something that prevents healing for enemies, something that refills magazines while near it. They could make some things work.
>>319324291
Jesus christ this post hurts
>>319324291
You can shoot at people and hit them where they aren't standing because the server' tick han't happened yet, allowing you to shoot them after they're in cover and allowing them to shoot you before they are out of cover.
Is that layman enough for you, you fucking chimp?
>>319318770
I want Gorilla Dad totenderly make love to me while calling me his boy.
>>319318407
I hope we get more waifus.
>>319328367
>clip
Triggered.
>>319322223
A meme.
>>319318407
Depressed that DLC has become so normalized
>>319318407
cautiously optimistic
>>319325125
Yeah because there won't be a lot going on in Overwatch with everyone using their Ults and shit.
>>319324291
This guy is just pretending...Right?
>>319318407
>you linked to an actual polygon article.
Makes me feel the /v/ wasn't wrong about them spooky scary skeletons invading /v/.
>>319328367
Okay, so I've watched the entire thing now, I've more or less formed a picture of what the deal is. Now I've actually played fairly actively in the beta and I have never seen this be an issue, but I can see what the problem is. The few things I'm left wondering about are
a) Do we know what blizzard's server stuff is like compared to Valve's, and how much of a difference that makes?
b) Considering that a great many weapons in Overwatch aren't just regular hitscan like in CS, how much is that affected by it?
c) Do we know sure Blizz has said nothing regarding this, maybe about the servers not being fully up and running yet and the tickrates being lowered so that they don't blow up as a result? Cause if I'm getting this right, that's kind of an issue.
>>319325487
Not really. The playerbase would have been unscrewed if they offered RoS for free. Not charging players for a patch fix.
>>319322638
no one has explained it properly to you, yet.
with less ticks that means there is less information going back and forth between your computer/device/console and the server.
the picture here>>319322467
helps show that in higher tickrate servers more information goes out and you see more "copies" of that player's location.
The reason a company would want lower tickrate is because of money it is cheaper to run servers on lower tickrates, but it makes it harder to hit players who are in your Line of Sight.
>>319330158
oh hush, they were just the first to put up an article about it, I linked two other sources in the thread.
>>319328496
Pretty sure you're trolling at this point but oh well, let me try.
The higher the tickrate, the smaller the windows of time become where you have already moved on your screen, but not in the actual game (aka on the server) so going back to the example given before: you dodge the bullet in your screen, but for tge server you're still in a different position, and you get shot
>>319330372
Thanks, anon, the video provided by >>319328367
pretty much explained it. but it's nice to clarify.
>>319325125
Well then.
I got in the weekend beta.
The tickrate sucks, Ralph.
>>319318407
They realized no one would play it otherwise.
I still won't.
>>319324291
>I lack the basic ability to seek and gather knowledge to improve my understanding of the world
I bet you don't even know why the sky is blue, retard.
>>319323682
>It doesn't even matter with R6 siege because it's such a slow game.
and the ttk is extremely low even with rook armor
peakers have a massive advantage if they strafe past a door
>>319318770
>>319325923
>huge feet
fucking dropped
>>319318407
Doesn't matter because I can't play yet
>>319318407
>linking to Polygon
>>319318407
Just how it should be, you are paying for the game.
TF2 did the same thing and nobody complained.
>>319330320
Stop posting
>>319330457
Wow, this dumbfuck doesn't even understand what the issue with linking to clickbait blogs is
>>319332056
The length of feet is roughly the length of the persons forearm.
intense, raging apathy
>>319318605
>People actually got upset while watching a killcam
How?
