10 out of hecking 10 if you ask me.
>>318794971
30 fps
>>318795489
PC has 0 fps
>>318795980
>posts a legit complaint
>must be pkek
fuck off
>>318794971
Best souls dlc by far.
>>318796158
Its not a legit complaint. The PS4 doesn't have good hardware. Its better they went with the art style and level of detail they did at 30fps instead of something more bland at 60fps.
>>318794971
I liked it. My main complaint is that there should have been mandatory bell maidens in this DLC
The DLC takes place in the nightmare and its connected to the other nightmares. (you can see the dlc parts of the nightmare in the background of the nightmare frontier area)
Still not the best game of the year, considering Undertale exists.
>>318794971
I do agree.
>>318794971
>shorter
>easier
>no diversity
>shit pvp
solid game on its own but worst souls game.
>>318796810
>this guy
>>318796536
epic lolz
>this is what console babys ACTAULLY BELIEVE
HAHAHAHA
Living Failures restricts the DLC from getting a 10.
>>318794971
Watch your filthy fucking language op
>>318796962
Yeah, they're a big failure.
>>318796916
>is 100% right
>>318796962
The fight was a bit easy but it looked gorgeous with their space chanting attack.
>>318796956
>epic lolz
I hope someone was trying to discredit you and you didn't actually post this.
>>318794971
is bloodborne the most viraled game on /V/?
>>318794971
i agree op
>>318796956
It's time for you to go.
>>318796657
>Undertale
Hows a shit game stop a good one from being game of the year exactly?
>>318796657
shouldn't you be at tumblr?
>>318796536
>PS4 doesn't have good hardware
>Sonyggers will defend this
>>318796536
Yea
Honestly is a good design choice
The combat isn't fast paced enough for split second reaction(so far for me atleast, I'm just after Father Gasioge) to be essential
And the background visuals really add to the atmosphere of the world
>>318797163
>talking about games on /v/
>bad
Kill yourself
>>318796810
>easier
Yeah right when DS1/2 were praised for their difficulty BB was called by the same people too difficult to complete for a review.
>>318797163
>is bloodborne the most viraled game on /V/?
Is it really viral if the entire site already hates the system the game is on?
>>318797225
It's got a betters story and lore than bloodborne
It's got better, more stylized graphics than bloodborne (which has generic photorealistic graphics)
it's got a more difficult gameplay
>>318797279
I'm not defending it. I'm CRITICIZING the fact that PS4 has bad hardware.
I AM defending the fact that Bloodborne is 30fps in light of that constraint. Dark Souls 3 will support 60fps+ on PC, but Bloodborne was published by Sony so From has had to work with what they have when it comes to PS4 hardware.
Bloodborne has fantastic level design and combat but I think most people would agree that the aesthetics of the world add a huge amount of value to the game. If they went with 60fps, the game would be more fluid, but a good deal of the visual quality would go down the toilet because of PS4's limitations.
>>318797726
This has to be bait.
>>318797338
Less a design choice than From's incompetence. Looks good, not good enough to warrant the kind of performance it has. Just kinda surprised From never really improved in that regard. Armored Core had its struggles too.
>>318796810
It's not shorter with the optional areas, it is not easier, DLC fixed the problem with diversity, and the superior PVE makes it a tradeoff.
>>318797885
From is just shit on the technical departement.
I don't know that the PS4 hardware is the only problem.
>>318797791
Well yeah. Bloodborne is kinda like the PS4's Bayonetta 2. Really fucking amazing game, but has no reason to be an exclusive.
>>318794971
I Agree. This should win goty but it wont Because video games has a shit community
>>318794971
friggin awsome game!
>>318794971
Are their any differences if you have high insight?
>>318798034
It can't be just the hardware. Look what Kojima did with MGSV. It ran at a constant 60fps. I don't recall a single instance when I noticed the frame rate drop, and it looked great. Especially considering it was also on last gen too.
>>318798358
the retarded doll walks around and never shuts up
I always keep my insight at 0 so I can just use the doll to level up without her opening her retarded mouth
>>318798795
It's not the hardware
Sure the consoles aren't super powerfull, but from was always bad at optimization exept for DS2, but that looked like garbage
LOREFAGS PLEASE ANSWER
Why the hell do you find Laurence's beast skull in "normal" Yharnam and his human skull in Nightmare Yharnam? This makes no sense to me.
What did Miyazaki mean by this?
>>318799127
That game was truly an eyesore in some places. At certain points it looked like PS2 level textures. If it's between that and 30fps, I'm choosing a game that looks good but has a low frame rate.
The only fault of BB was the inconsistent frame rate with big groups of enemies, fire or multiplayer. I agree, I think it's poor coding on From's part. PS4 is made of cheap ass gaming laptop parts, but it should still be able to handle something like that. MGSV only proves this.
>>318799586
In his Blood-addled madness, Laurencelost his head
>>318798795
Yeah. MGSV had better graphics and better AI than Bloodborne and yet that ran at 1080p 60fps while BB like almost every From game, shits the bed.
>>318796657
>Undertale
>Anyones GOTY
What is this meme
>>318799586
There are theories that Amelia went and fetched his skull from the labyrinth. Which would make sense as she's praying in the cathedral. In the nightmare, I think it's symbolic of what he's lost - his humanity, that he is always searching for but will never be able to attain.
>>318797163
I thought it was undertale or some other meem/ mweebm game
>>318797726
MAXIMUM B8
>>318798358
At 20 insight I believe, some enemies become stronger and gain more habilities.
At 40 insight you can see the Amygdalas before killing Rom
At 50 insight the Hunter's Dream background music changes
An unknown amount of Insight is needed to see extra shit like the messengers that open the cathedral ward for you when you have the badge from Cleric Beast, and hearing the prayer Vicar Amelia chants before she changes.
>>318799816
CARLOS!
The DLC has too much cheap shit, like double shark trolls and most enemies too tons of damage, i hope future From games won't all go down this path
>>318798358
>Above 0: Doll comes to life.
>15 and above: Enemies start using new moves.
>40 and above: Amygdala in Yharnam become visible.
>50 and above: Unintelligible murmurs and the crying of a baby can be heard in the background while you explore the areas in the game. Also, messengers can be seen playing with the lever in Cathedral Ward.
Also, the higher your insight, the more susceptible you are to frenzy.
>>318800161
>>318801071
I know the difference from the normal game
I thought the DLC had some insight stuff too
>>318800128
So Laurence is the bloodletting beast afterall?
Alright, quitting bb again cause fuck if I know what I'm doing. Next time I'll grab a PS+ to get some co-op help and figure shit out that way.
>accidentally dump 8 blood chunks into the wrong weapon
I just stopped playing for today, I have defeated myself. Where can I grind for blood chunks?
>>318801251
Nah, it doesn't really affect anything in the DLC.
>>318801453
Upper cathedral ward. the wolfs with the blue eyes
Equip the rune for more tiem drops
>>318801275
No Laurence is a cleric beast. You see him on the altar in the hunter's nightmare cathedral.
>>318801453
Upper Cathedral Ward, in the big room with the wolves. 3 Eye runes and some arcane will get you plenty. Gargoyles in Cainhurst work too.
>>318801453
If you have ps+ I always just farm the glyph:
enjids45
Loran Silverbeast boss. Alternatively just repeat any depth 4/5 chalice
>>318801417
Dude the 1.07 patch added the bells that let you call npc hunters in every boss now, they're pretty bad but still useful for tanking a boss while you hack away
>>318801453
Chalice dungeons. Like depth 3 and up, I think.
>mfw still using the axe
I use a sword in every other game. Time to mix it up.
>>318802183
Same here, Hunter Axe is still my favorite
And Kirks Hammer to stun the shit out of bosses
>>318801983
Not Gehrman
>>318796536
>Its better they went with the art style and level of detail they did at 30fps
I really disagree. The framerate is only terrible at certain points, but I'd much rather have a stable 45+ fps. DaS2 and the upcoming DaS3 look AMAZING at 50+ fps.
Bungie made a VERY good looking game that runs at 45+ fps (aka Destiny) to run on the PS4. FROM just went a little too crazy with the art assets.
>>318802339
Just parry him
All 1v1 hunter fights are such a let down
>>318801983
Or amygdala
Is the new armor worth trying to get?
>>318802383
DS3 will run at 30 with drops trust me
On PS4 at least
>>318801983
or that fucker in cainhurst
>>318802383
Destiny ran at 30fps
>>318798034
SotFS runs at 50 fps stable on the PS4, so I doubt it was technical ignorance.
>>318796810
It's the only Souls game that isn't boring as fuck to both look at and play m8
>>318802383
To be fair, though, some of those assets are pretty fucking sicknasty. And I mean that as literally sickening and nasty. In the best way.
>>318799586
He was trapped in a nightmare and was a nightmare to everyone else.
>>318799586
The beasty skull is the real skull. The human skull in the nightmare is just a representation of Laurence's humanity that he can never get back.
>>318802631
you're right, my mistake. it may be because my TV has interlacing that it looked much smoother than 30fps.
the game still managed to look pretty fucking great while maintaining 30fps the whole time.
>>318796810
>ds
circle strafe defeats most bosses
>>318802678
>finding the Brain of Mensis in the hole
I knew exactly what to expect and it still fucking shocks me.
That thing is grotesque
Bloodborne's singplayer experience is fun and all, albeit a little too consistent in art design (Dark Souls 1 and 2's metroidvania style, "Ooh a forest here, a castle there, an ice/snow place here" level design was a lot more "fun")
But my biggest issue is the PvP.
Going from Dark Souls 2 and having a variety of builds with two dozen spells per type of spellcasting to Bloodborne's pretty stagnant and narrow build variety was such a let down.
Apparently the meta for Bloodborne PvP is 120.
So you get your health and stamina up to whatever you're comfortable with, and basically choose between strength, skill, or arcane as a primary and secondary.
That's it, did anyone else find it boring? I can win most PvP fights just buy having more stamina and health than the guy guy and just spamming R1 to win the trade off.
>>318802437
if i was good I wouldn't be asking for co-op
>>318796371
Best Souls by far.
so I just got the Old hunters expansion and was wondering if I should play it with a completely new character, or the one I just finished the game at around blood level 80 or so.
Any advice/suggestions would be kool.
>>318803153
Dark souls 2 pvp was absolute garbage m8.
Dark souls 1 had the best pvp.
>>318803409
How so?
Dark Souls 2 has the best PvP of the franchise, DeS close second.
Smoother combat than DaS1, powerstancing, faster backstep, guard break, actual weapon two handing, ability to PvP in areas where the boss has been killed, Arena matches that aren't locked behind DLC, fights club, 6 player capacity, no obnoxious backstab fishing, no excessive poise, much greater weapon variety.
Why do you think Dark Souls 1 has better Pvp?
>>318803153
My experience with DaS2 pvp is giant dads and naked niggers all swinging giant fucking weapons and taking advantage of server instability.
BB PvP isn't any better, but I feel like the lore and reasoning is a better trade off. You're a hunter in a world of many other hunters. Some hunters are dicks, some are insane others are like you trying to rid the world of beasts and aid you along the way.
I've been invaded numerous times and never gotten too butthurt because from a lore perspective it all makes sense, and it's fairly easy to not only beat someone invading you, but prevent further invasions.
>>318795489
who cares
>>318803657
>Smoother combat than DaS1
jej
>>318803879
Enlightening post.
>>318803383
The DLC is pretty hard on NG+, like some parts are really hard
I made a new char, killed Amelia, back to Hunters Dream and then to Oeden and i was around lvl 20 then, seemed like a good lvl for NG
>>318803383
new character, at least that's what I did.
you get to try out a new build while doing new content. a win/win imo.
if you do try it on NG+ though, unless you're skilled as fuck people recommend being Lv120 or higher. 60-80 on NG.
>>318803819
The Giant Dad build isn't possible in Dark Souls 2 though.
With Bloodborne PvP, it just feels like a fight between two dex fags since no one ever uses the kirkhammer, and there's no actual "armor" of the game.
The whole system of not being able to be invaded unless co-oping(with the exception of the nightmare) is my biggest issue and I hate that Miyazaki catered to a wider audience despite people initially thinking it was a DeS successor, so the community would be a familiar one.
>>318803983
>>318804003
ok Thanks. I just got past father g with a new character so i'll stick with him for the dlc.
>>318803879
I'm actually serious. I just switched to Dark Souls 1 on 360 for some burg invasions, the the rolling alone gives you less directional control, animations are more stiff, and the framerate just can't handle much. I can't speak for the PC port, but I heard it's not much better. Dark Souls 2 is a much smoother game, regardless of how much you like Dark Souls 1.
>>318796536
>it's not a legit complaint because i said so! baka
Souls games are retarded.
>>318803409
this tbqqh
DaS2 is trash in every regard
>>318803383
I'm level 125 on NG+5 and it's taken me hours just to beat Ludwig
I summon people and they get wrecked in just the normal enemy areas because they aren't expecting anything higher than NG+
>>318804389
>the rolling alone gives you less directional control
Dark Souls gives you two modes of control, locked on and not. This gives you options and makes you make a decision about which you'll use. Dark Souls II restricts you to one mode. This is not "more control".
>animations are more stiff
Dark Souls 1's animations are much much better than 2's mocapped shit.
>Dark Souls 2 is a much smoother game
It just isn't. You've got less precise control over basic movement, a roll with unnecessarily long recovery (in fact pretty everything has too long a recovery), and many other issues with basic controls. It's a mucky mess.
The snailgirls are quite sexy
>>318804389
>>318803657
>iframes tied to a stat
>soul memory
>best anything
kek
>>318804724
What are you talking about? You can unlock in Dark Souls 2.
I'm starting to think you've never played either game. Go watch PvP fights of both games, you'll see with error that Dark Souls 1 is a slower, cumbersome, burdened combat. DeS's combat is better animated and smoother than Dark Souls.
Really, have you never played a game in the franchise?
Guard break, powerstancing, and greater build variety alone are objectively better than just slaying people for hours by casting TWoP and two handing a Zwei or Claymore.
Dark Souls 1 is an extremely shallow game for PvP. DeS had much more variety of combat due to the mana bar, allow for implemenation of spellcasting seamlessly within sword combat.
I recommend you actually play the games one day
>there are people that pay any attention to the PS2 tier pvp in souls games
>>318805540
Going beyond NG4 in any of the except Demon's Souls holds no actual fun and is just done to see if you can.
>>318805360
>Dark Souls 2 pvp
>footsies
>someone lands a hit
>mash R1 because every hit is a guaranteed 2-3 swing stunlock
>repeat
>Demon's Souls didn't even have this problem with no poise
Dark Souls 1 is shallow now? Really? Dark Souls 1 pvp was just Demon's Souls pvp with more depth compounded by more legitimate use from toggling as well as backstab cancels/counters.
Dark Souls 2 has fucking dick save for some animation cancelling, which gets old fast.
I liked the Fishing Hamlet area, reminded me of Demons Souls, but without posion
>>318805809
That's what invasions and co-op are for.
Duels are pure cancer. Everything made by the fanbase is cancer.
>>318805540
Souls has shit pvp it is undeniable.
To this day i think the "complex" Dark souls 1 pvp was completely unintentional on the part of FROM and miyazaki.
>>318795489
Literally not a problem.
30fps in Bloodborne is fine when the game itself looks incredible.
Dark Souls 2 on PS4 is 60fps and looks like shit.
60fps aint shit unless it's an FPS. I have a 120hz asus monitor on PC for that purpose.
>decide to get into souls games
>buy DaS 1 on steam two weeks ago
>horrible graphics, horrible sound, horrible character building and i haven't even played yet
>menus are retarded
>use keyboard and mouse but all tool tips are labelled as xbox controller buttons
>have to alt+tab to see the translation
>graphics settings? no
>customize controls? retarded
>try to roll, dive, plunge using keyboard and mouse? haha nice try faggot
>combat is slow, sluggish, and boring
>beat first boss after 12 tries
>get steam refund
>laugh
Man, that is one of the shittiest ports i've ever seen in my life.
>>318806056
sometimes high level pvp is refreshing
doing too much of a single thing gets old
>>318806147
You have only yourself to blame.
>>318806106
>>318806147
Pcux.
>>318802527
That lady at 19 seconds got good.
Man the fucking sound design in the DLC is great
Literally a better horror game than anything released over the past years
>>318806247
>>318806147
just play it with an xbox controller
>>318806238
Would a controller and a console help with the sluggish combat and boring gameplay?
If you guys are into lame hack and slash beat em up, why don't you faggots just play final fight or something?
>>318806106
i have 200 hours played between bloodborne and das2 on ps4 and there is a noticeable fucking difference between the framerate dipshit. i also have thousands of hours in destiny and my lord if 30 fps doesnt burn my eyes in pvp and make me scream fuck this game. if bloodborne was 60 fps it would be 10 out of fucking 10 but its not
>>318805837
Look at this video(chose only because he's a known souls player so you can't say I'm advertising or some shit)
The literal slide of characters while locked on an running. The extremely slow build up to thrown objects. the awkward bend your character does attempting to strafe around someone. The inability to take damage during backstabs(even gears of war and halo allow full damage during such things) the stunted half-acted animations of faster attacks, inability to cancel gestures.
What about this game is smooth or intuitive for you, specifically?
>Every hit is guaranteed as a 2-3 hit swing stunlock
This is objectively false and I am more than willing to PvP with you right now to prove otherwise.
Dark Souls 1's poise system encourages poise stacking rather than skill of finesse. There's nothing skillful about the combat once you understand the basic concepts.
Make ANY build in Dark Souls 2, I'll even help you along the way, and then I'll beat it with any of my builds just by being better.
There's literallly more mechanics to the combat that I've repeated and you continue to ignore. You've never played a souls game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XhUCaf7MYU
>taking PvP seriously in any Souls game or BB
Holy fucking shit. The reason DaS2 is the shittiest is because it tries the most to cater to PvP metagaming faggots and doesn't give much of a fuck about anything else.
I don't get why so many people complained about Orphan and Laurence
For Laurence just wait for teh big over head and hit him a few times until the second pahse where you becomes a joke
Orphan just parry him to death same with Maria
Ludwig was the only somewhat challenging boss
And i'm on NG+5 lvl 100
>>318806056
who mentioned duels? Who are you quoting?
>>318806558
Of course there's a noteable difference you fucking idiot.
I just said, one is 60 and one is 30.
However, it doesn't matter. Bloodborne plays just fine at 30, and given the choice between Dark Souls 2 visuals and 60fps or Bloodbornes visuals and 30fps, sorry, but I'm going for 30.
I have a GTX980 and play at 4k 30fps on PC intentionally when I could run it at 60fps if I wanted to.
Don't care. Only FPS's, racers and fighters really need 60.
>>318806558
He didn't say there wasn't a difference between the two games. His opinion is that 60 fps looks like dog shit for that game, and 30 fps is nice cinematic(imo). Your opinion is cool and all, but thats just what it is, your opinion.
The best part of PVP in these games is just fucking with people.
I can't beat Laurence on NG+
Feels bad man. Killed him quite easily in NG. Went through Ludwig and Kos quite easily on NG+. But Laurence on NG+ is tearing me a new asshole. I'm DSP'ing over here. I got his first form down but always fuck up on the second form.
>>318806868
>>318806931
>le cinematic action game
in a game where timing input matters i dont see how 30 fps can ever be better than 60
>>318807183
Wait for the fire breath, rush up on his left side and wack his face enough to get out while he's still going.
>>318806106
>being this much of a sonygger
jesus christ
>>318807249
>30 fps can ever be better than 60
>get in a thread
>complain about things that nobody said
>>318807249
like i said man, that's like your OPINION
>>318807286
k thanks
will try tomorrow or even day after, ass too sore to continue today.
DeS was more than playable @ 30fps with drops
Bloodborne is the same tbqh f4m
>>318807249
30fps has nothing to do with input timing, retard.
Display update is not the same as control update. 60fps doesn't make you suddenly have foresight and the ability to see 30frames into the future.
It's the same timeframe but the display flickers more. Literally why people are able to speedrun Super Mario 64 at it's 20fps with accurate precision.
60fps only matters where a game has a cursor because the cursor moves intandem with your own perception and requires it be smooth.
Are you new?
>>318807110
>>318806603
I'm not even going to address the first half of your post because I'm not that poster.
>Dark Souls 1's poise system encourages poise stacking rather than skill of finesse
Except with toggling it's only useful for negating poise damage from small fast weapons. Moreover, you still take damage from phantom hits, so if you recognize the poisebreak your opponent is using (usually 32 or 53), you can know exactly when you'll break it, even if he should be able to poise tank it if not for the phantom damage.
I'm not going to waste any more of my time on Dark Souls 2. It's absolute garbage.
By the way, fighting forest shitters doesn't constitute an argument. I've fought peeve multiple times and he's not good. I've never lost against him.
If you think Dark Souls 1 pvp is shit because "hurr you can use twop", then opinion fucking discarded. No one falls for twop. Maybe you'd have an argument if you were talking about release when it lasted for 60 seconds.
>>318806106
>>318806247
>>318806360
why the fuck are you playing native 720p?
>>318807494
>60fps doesn't make you suddenly have foresight and the ability to see 30frames into the future
Guess who's the retard
>>318794971
this is how you can explain PS4 players having such patience to actually get games on their system.
If they can wait for the loading times and 30FPS on Bloodborne, they can handle damn near anything.
>>318807574
It's downsampled to 720. I don't see the point in 1080p sized images on an image board and having something literally as big as your entire screen taking up space on the page. Sorry anon.
>>318807494
You're not allowed to say this on /v/ - Masterrace.
>>318807710
Bloodbornes loading times were fixed in a patch post release, and the load times are fine.
30fps isn't a negative.
>>318807704
You. You are the retard.
>>318807845
>>318807710
Yeah man so patient to wait through 5 second loading screens lol
>>318807845
>30fps isnt a negative
>>318806147
>not even trying dsfix
Go fuck yourself
>>318807710
>If they can wait for the massively outdated pc memes to die, they can handle damn near anything
ftfy
>>318807862
You're trying to twist the reason why people want more frames just to make them sound ridiculous.
Nobody genuinely believes that using60fps will make them see a full second later than using 30fps
>>318794971
So I never bought this game but I see now in Asia an "Old Hunters" and in EU a "GOTY" edition. Are they both the same?
>Want to be a muscle mage
>Arcane builds are utter shit until Byrgenworth
>>318807494
I've always wondered this.
For years I kinda parroted the "muh 60fps" mantra and realised, "wait, how am I even able to PLAY Ocarina then?"
It's not any harder to control or handle. It's just more flickery. It looks therefore feels smoother at 60fps. It is nicer, sure, but it doesn't really have any super advantage in most games.
Only in games where you need the 60fps because shit is moving realy fast and can move between multiple frames. Like Quake multiplayer etc.
I get the whole mustard rice 60fps thing for shooters. I do.
But for other games it's literally just a cherry on a cake. It's not entirely necessary.
>>318807845
>30fps isn't a negative.
It is, but it also doesn't mean that the game is bad because of it.
There's many games that are 30fps or lower and yet they are considered masterpieces.
>>318807985
It's not though.
Less than that would be.
>>318807710
>loading times are minuscule now compared to any other game out right now, and once loaded, you could literally run through the entire game in the same session
>absolutely zero advantage in having ~20 extra FPS in practice ever, especially for a 3rd person action game
How much did you pay for your xbone, kid?
>>318808025
I tried it and it still sucked.
All of this, within the two hours limit for returns.
It's an ugly, boring, hack and slash affair that gave me zero incentive to explore or discover the rest of the world. The worst opening of any RPG i've ever played (and i've played tons).
>>318808104
Yes, the only difference is that the Asia version has Chinese and English subtitles while EU has English/Italian/Spanish/etc dub and subtitles.
Also The Old Hunters has the superior box art.
>>318807985
>thinking he has robot eyes
>>318808108Make sure to get the Kos Parasite. It adds damage to your fist that scales with Arcane when you aren't in Ayy mode.
>>318808102
>>318807249
>in a game where timing input matters i dont see how 30 fps can ever be better than 60
>>318807494
>30fps has nothing to do with input timing, retard.
>>318807704
>>60fps doesn't make you suddenly have foresight and the ability to see 30frames into the future
>Guess who's the retard
>>318808102
>You're trying to twist the reason why people want more frames just to make them sound ridiculous.
>Nobody genuinely believes that using60fps will make them see a full second later than using 30fps
Okay you started it with MUH INPUT TIMING and frames, so fuck off ya dumb cunt.
>>318808102
>2015
>not using your console to see into the future
>>318808123
>Like Quake multiplayer etc.
quake mp needs 120fps actually you maxipleb
>>318808369
Are you fucking retarded?
This post is insane. I'm honestly troubled that someone is so fucking wrong on /v/ and I've been here since 2006
>>318808380
Thanks for that. My main concern was because I actually like the red box, so I'm going to go with EU.
>mfw the seller I bought it from is named Ahmed
Stay keked, Eurofags.
>>318796810
Anon list goes
Bloodborne+Old Hunters> Demons Souls > Bloodborne > Dark Souls 2 First Sin > Dark Souls Prepare to Die > Dark Souls > Dark Souls 2
>>318808679
explain your position in detail
>>318794971
>Bloodborne isn't a good game because it was only released on one platform
Thats like saying a European film is shit because it didn't have a world wide release
>hyped as fuck for beastmode
>trailer shows it off front and center
>they quietly add kinmode too
>infinity better
based from
when exactly will the anal anguish stop /v/?
>>318808954
SotFS wasn't good
>>318809889
My fav image
>>318809889
When Bloodborne comes out on PC.
>>318809889
>it's literally been over a year and a half of unkempt prolapse
maybe one day they'll finally convince us how much they don't want bloodborne eh? ;)
>>318796810
>easier
You may have an argument on the other ones, but this is not even remotely true.
Demon's/Dark Souls I/II were total cakewalks compared to Bloodborne.
>>318809889
>that Ned Stark
literally makes that fucking macro. got btfo'd so fucking hard
>>318809889
>>318810206
>>318810368
>>318810616
>mfw the webms started leaking
>>318807494
a lower framerate means each frame takes longer to render, which means increased input delay
the difference between 16ms and 33ms though is not very noticeable, most people generally notice the smoothness of the image more
>>318810918
>i-it's a dark souls 2 mod!
>>318810368
It wasn't that good
Now here's your chance to say I don't own it even though it's sitting right behind me
>>318810734
and that's just original Bloodborne, not accounting for how hard the DLC is.
It's perhaps the hardest game I've played since Zelda II.
>>318811016
>shitters have shitty opinions
who knew?
>>318811014
>g-generic sickdark
motherfuckers lacked eyes
>>318811016
You don't even FUCKING own it, you piece of lying garbage
>>318811136
ah kos
>>318811016
>>318811238
samefag setting himself up to post his epic timestamp nobody cares about
>>318811016
No, Dark Souls 2 "wasn't that good".
Bloodborne is fucking great.
Am I the only one who legitimately doesn't like the setting of Bloodborne? The color palette is so bland and everything is dark. The gothic crap is boring too. The game is also way less comfy than Dark Souls 1 and 2.
>>318811553
>Am I the only one who legitimately doesn't like the setting of Bloodborne?
ya
youre probably homosex
>>318811553
what are you, gay?
>>318811553
>comfy
>dark souls 1
Pick one.
>>318811553
yes, it's much better than the tired fantasy shit from other Souls games
>muh dark fantasy
dude it still has fucking dragons
>>318811656
>>318811685
It's so fucking stupid.
>hur dur spooky statues everywhere
>hur dur london is spooky
The dancing crones in Hemwick Lane were the only part so far where I though "that's neat"
>>318796536
FROM just sucks at optimizing, and a little less visual fidelity=/=more bland, you fucking idiot.
There is no reason a game that looks this middling should run so shittily, and even if it looked good enough to truly excuse 30FPS, they shpuld have had the sense to tone it down for a playable framerate.
>>318811865
You need to get better taste
>>318811865
i bet you think cocks are attractive
dont lie faggot
>>318798000
Objectively shorter due to less total content, sorry. I don't really agree that the PVE was better than anything other than DaS2, but that's super subjective on either of our parts, especially when you've not mentioned anything specific.
>>318811865
You can make anything in a game look bad if you word it like that.
>>318812069
only if its a feminine penis
>>318811553
The world of Dark Souls was supposed to be oppressive and hopeless, I wouldn't call it comfy.
>>318808954
Oh my God, even among BB Sonypony shitpost threads, this is the worst taste in Souls games I have EVER seen, good job dude.
>>318812232
i knew it lol
faggot
>>318811865
>>hur dur spooky
Well I don't know about everyone else but I'm convinced. Bloodborne a shit because
>hur dur
>>318812395
I bet you never even played Demons Souls you kek
ToH is the first additional content since Lord of Destruction where I feel like it completely renews the value of the game. It was a decent title before the DLC dropped, now it's a runaway. Best game of this gen, and best in the series.
T b h f a m
Dark Souls > Bloodborne > Demon's Souls > Not playing a game > Dark Souls II
>>318810803
>I'll enjoy the tears regardless
Sure you will.
>>318811553
I didn't like it either, at least notmby comparison. There wasn't a single time I said "Oh, that's really cool" like when I saw the trees from Ash Lake in the distance right before I went to fight Nito, or when I finally got into the meat of rhe Duke's Archives after seeing it tower over the map from afar. Not varied, very edgelordy.
>>318812514
I would rather listen to rhe dingalings in Latria for a thousand straight hours before I went back to le edgy London again. Of course I beat the game you silly goose
>make blood bullets
>warp
>start with full health, 20 vials, and 25 bullets
>no penalty
I'm the only one just now figuring this out aren't I?
>>318812754
Eh, I'd actually put Bloodborne ~ Demon's Souls > Dark Souls >>>>>>>>>>>>Dark Souls 2
But it's truly just a matter of personal preference, beyond Dark Souls 2 being the objective worst entry. The difference between the systems, level design, and boss mechanics of Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are so similar in quality that it really becomes a Coke vs. Pepsi argument (an argument used even though Coke has been objectively better than Pepsi for years now)
>>318812754
literally incorrect in every aspect. i've never seen such an incorrect statement of all time
there should be a hall of fame of the worst posts of all time, and you will be the first inductee. there is something genuinely wrong with you
>>318812754
I like that you at least put DaS1 at the top, but I honestly feel like DaS1>DaS2>/=DeS=Bloodborne, even though I know I'm in the super minority for not hating the second one.
>>318813237
>Bloodborne ~ Demon's Souls > Dark Souls >>>>>>>>>>>>Dark Souls 2
My brother.
>>318813258
Would you care to elaborate on those hot opinions of yours, good sir? What particular part of this anon's ranking do you disagree with?
>>318809851
I was actually genuinely disappointed at how shitty beast mode turned out to be.
>R1s are slower, but have no change in damage, making its shit range even more of a detriment
>Built-in roar can be parried
Sure, it has two-hit running attacks and a cool jumping attack that has its own super armor, but it sucks compared to kin mode.
>>318811553
The environments don't really tell you anything about the area once you reach them, and it never really gives a good sense of progression. That's my main problems with it. I don't have a problem with any particular area, but it's all the areas relative to each other. There's no contrast
>>318813258
>there is something genuinely wrong with you
m8 have you looked in the mirror lately? I rest my case
>>318813054
Obviously not, because there are so many baddies who are still saying BB is the best and/or hardest of them.
>>318813258
Sorry, DaS is at the top, can't be completely incorrect. Opinion discarded.
>>318798048
you mean the fact that it would've never EXISTED AT ALL without sony's help
>>318796158
PKeks are the only "people" who complain about "muh graphics, muh frames!"
>>318812754
For me it's Dark Souls>Dark Souls 2 Scholar = Bloodborne + Old Hunters.
Haven't played Demon Souls because I don't like going backwards in a series.
>>318814125
>I don't like going backwards in a series.
What kind of retarded logic is that?
>>318813878
shhhh...
Don't you understand that PKeks, and generally the types of people who want a port of every single game to THEIR console RIGHT NOW, have no understanding of game development, funding, or copyright? They just want the sausage, on their plate, right now, and they don't care how it's made.
>>318814203
I've heard the gameplay isn't as fleshed out as any of the future games, and that's 90% of the reason I play them.
>>318814249
Say that to all the sony ponies begging for Bayonetta 2.
>>318814283
It's not, but it's still fun and different. That's just silly reasoning. Bloodborne's gameplay isn't as fleshed out as Dark Souls', but would you have skipped that?
>>318813480
It objectively is you dumbshit. People who played the previous souls outright gave up on bloodborne for being "frustratingly difficult." There is no hold "L1 to block 100% physical damage with a 70+ Stability Shield" and tank every blow through poise.
>>318814125
Well then it's a good thing Demon's Souls is a standalone title.
Then again, thinking Dark Souls 2 is better than any other entry in the series is grounds enough for me to disregard your opinion entirely.
>>318814283
not being able to slide on ladders is basically the only issue
>>318814125
>didn't start with DeS
>thinks his opinion is relevant
>>318814379
As someone who owns both a PS4 AND WiiIU, I don't really feel the need.
The only current gen console I didn't bother to purchase was the Xbone, because I never intend to buy another Halo after Bungie gave up the rights, and there's literally nothing else worth owning exclusively on that console.
>>318814379
Literally who?
>>318814630
He thinks that Playstation owners are literally the only people who complain about Bayo 2 being exclusive to nintendo.
Like most PKeks looking to keep the "le ebin Sonyggers boogeymen" meme alive, to distract people from recognizing them as literally the worst demographic in gaming.
pls help
i cant git gud enough
>>318814892
b- b- but muh Nier 2
>>318811553
>Am I the only one
Pretty much. You have to be a special type of retard to dislike literally the only game that does Lovecraftian horror right and say that you prefer the generic knight with a sword that's been done 25 million of times before. Not saying that DaS is bad in any way but the setting and atmosphere in BB are just perfect.
>>318815023
Aggro both of them run all the way down the stairs, fight the black garb church chick down there and the snot blower wont mess with you, then go up and deal with her. They are easy alone.
>>318815205
my favorite thing about bloodborne is the lovecraftian horror, i love it so much.
>>318815102
Should I play Nier? I've heard it's really good, but know literally nothing about it other than that my daughter is a tranny and/or futa.
>>318802959
This. Read the item description.
>>318815205
That fact that you start the game expecting Victorian Monster Hunter and slowly uncover the Eldritch Horror as you progress was my favorite part of playing the game for the first time.
That moment when you realize "Oh my god it was there the whole time. Oh my god THEY'RE EVERYWHERE," was legitimately horrifying to me. Your character stumbling into a world of horrors beyond mortal comprehension is so on the ball for what Lovecraftian Horror was all about (and ironically, what the Cthulu Mythos has been so utterly robbed of) in its execution, and the references to Shadow Over Innsmouth and, in retrospect, the Old Monk and Xanthous set from previous games so obviously references to the King in Yellow, that I have to believe that Miyazaki has been just as much a fan of this type of literature that he is of Berserk.
Does getting hit while attempting to dodge count as counter damage?
>>318796962
>implying beating them only to be rewarded with Maria isn't a treat
>>318817079
Yes.
>>318815953
>my daughter is a tranny and/or futa
No, your daughter is definitely a girl, you're thinking of a different character.
>>318814402
Man oh man, please keep telling me how shields r da best or something and then defend the easymode r1 selfheal spamfest 1 million evasion stamina meter replenishable bloodvial ranged parry babbymode that is BB. It's not bad, just not the hardest. Also, using "objectively", especially in this case, is just dumpstering your own opinion before I get a chance.
>>318817569
Way to spoil my spoiler! I could have played the game expecting my daughter to be a tranny, and been pleasantly surprised when it turned out she wasn't!Just kidding. Seriously though, is it worth picking up? I'm nearing my second complete playthrough of BB since the DLC came out, and I could use a decent JRPG.
>>318814249
Did you just defend corporate fanboyism? It would be okay if BB was on PC because 60fps obviously, but I'm not sucking a company's dick for making a game like you apparently are. Brand loyalty is cancer.
>>318803065
last time I met him I sawed his eye with the pizza cutter kekekeke
so satisfying
>>318817880
It's certainly an interesting game, just don't expect top tier combat.
>>318814068
"muh frames"
Holy shit, there's actually someone so retarded that they think performance isn't a legitimate complaint, or a very good reason to own a PC regardless of whatever console(s) you may have. I sincerely hope this is bait, casual scum.
>>318818093
>A company that pays for a game has the right to keep it exclusive to their console. This is how the market works.
>STOP BEING A FANBOY AND GIVE ME THIS GAME ON PC BECAUSE 60FPS IS LITERALLY THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES A GAME GOOD
Yeah, not even going to try and have a discussion with you. You can just fuck off. Thanks for proving my point, though.
