New Vegas thread?
New Vegas thread.
>New vegas thread
New vegas thread
Is TTW good or is NV enough?
>>318635745
I'm playing a black secretary lady in a suit who bullshits and fucks her way into power. Luck and charisma 10 and legally blind without glasses.
Have y'all tried Fallout 4 yet? How is it compared to New Vegas?
>>318637224
I had never played through the main story in New Vegas before. After I found out about all the shit things in 4 I started NV again and I'm enjoying it immensely.
>>318635745
When I got this assignment I was hoping there would be more gambling.
horrible game that runs out of steam half way through. Horrible writing with no sense.
there you go, now you can close the thread
playing NV right now (its paused on my 2nd screen as i type this)
fo4 is pig disgusting, so i decided to give NV another playthrough, and do some things i havent tried before, having a lot of fun
http://a.pomf.cat/qiutvd.mp4
>>318638095
thanks for that update autismo.
don't forget your doctors appointment
Doing an unarmed independent run, not sure which companions to pick up. Also when do I get an invite to the fort I want that legion unarmed move
>>318638335
after you talk toBenny
>>318636865
start with NV then install TTW.
Never used to like this game, but over the past 2 weeks i havnt stopped playing it. Mods really make it great.
I wish i never started Old World Blues though. I havnt put any points into energy weapons or mele, so killing these stupid robots is far too difficult.
>>318638439
I'd have to start a new game though? The TTW site says best to start a new game.
>>318638538
bring a fully upgraded GRA chainsaw and fix the Auto-Doc first.
Is there any reason not to kill benny at the casino?
>Make retarded character
>Full strength
>got to melee/fists every possible character you see along your travels
>no talking whatsoever
>no quests
>just beating the shit out of everything and anyone
>no avoiding enemies no matter how hard they are, if you spot them, charge in and beat the living shit out of them
>running away or getting killed is instant game over and start again
>you only win once every single NPC on the entire map has been beaten to a pulp
>picking up armor and new melee weapons is allowed, but none can be purchased
why did they even put this gun in the game
>rare as fuck to find
>weak as shit
>requires 50 skill to use
>integrated silencer but not holdout weapon
it even has a weapon mod that lets it hold more shitty damage bullets.
>>318638687
I think you can fight him hand to hand in the arena later on if you want a different atmosphere.
Or you can save him by sneaking him out, or literally fighting the entire legion to save this prick.
>>318639602
Cause it looks cool, I guess.
>>318637224
Vegas is a better RPG
4 is a better FPS
>>318639602
Why did they even put .22 in the game
>>318639261
Tried it, started with a shovel, worked up to a super sledge
It gets boring pretty fast
>>318639834
the 22 pistol is actually somewhat useful for killing unarmored people because it does double critical damage and you can always bring it anywhere regardless of your sneak skill.
it's still kinda weak so i just use hollow points.
if you're talking about the caliber, yeah it was a stupid idea when you have 9mm.
>>318639834
because .22 is literally the biggest meme obsidian could put in
>>318637224
it's actually alright imo
story isnt nearly as shit as fallout 3, has some form of moral grey to it, and you're not forced into the white knight sjw faction
>>318640476
>not liking .22
You're a raging fucking plebian.
>>318640089
I admit it's not a character you can put 100+ hours into, but finding a hard enemy or group and charging in at low level to help level up was pretty enjoyable and made shit really tactical.
>>318640760
>attempting to compensate the fact that .22 is a meme by showing a picture of a fucking massive revolver that was chambered in .22 but was discontinued
>being this autistic
>>318640476
Pretty sure the biggest meme ammo is 10mm
>b-b-b-b-but it's effective!
Yes, but it's a meme. .22 isn't a meme
New Vegas was wasted on Gamebryo
>>318640924
Were the Taurus model guns really discontinued?
>>318641080
More areas on the west of the Colorado would have gone a long way to making the legion more worthwhile.
>>318641126
i specifically said the .22 raging bull
the .44, .454 casull, and the .45 colt versions still exist
>>318641080
Every game looks amazing on concept art. Stop being retarded.
>>318640998
>using any 10mm over that gun
forty keks
>>318641284
Aw lame.
Then again, the Raging Hornet does use a specialized .22 round, so it makes sense that it's more of a novelty. Still like it, though.
>>318641391
we get it the game looked fucking amazing in concept art fuck off with your shitposting
>>318641381
Exactly, which is why bethekek are a bunch of c.ucks for not including it in a fucking game about synths.
>>318641381
>using Guns at all
>>318641495
>posting concept art is shitposting
>>318641548
i did an energy weapons only run once and it was fine but guns just feel more satisfying
i guess its because there's more variety in them vs energy weapons
>"The Legion"
>never uses repurposed and repainted riot police shields
Wasted opportunity
>>318641952
caesar's new regime adds a weapon for the legion that has a cosmetic riot shield
it's called the gladius and RIOT scutum
>>318642014
Isn't that also the mod that adds Super Mutant Legionnaires?
>>318642109
it might, but i havent seen them even on my character that's near level cap
the closest i've seen to one is one fucker in the fort who has goliath armor and a minigun
>>318637224
still kinda shit but the movement and gunplay is better
someone needs to port new vegas to 4, in my opinion, to get the best of both worlds
>tfw you turn your back on your home for the second time
>Always sided with any faction other than legion
>Shops everywhere
>quests everywhere
>easy caps
>easy to buy what i need
>protection over practically whole map
>Decide to join legion as low level
>not far in, entire map hates me
>legion never got my back
>get shot at wherever i go
>go to buy shit
>still get shot at
>great nowhere to buy shit apart from the very few legion traders
>game is a broken unfinished mess
Why didn't they focus on adding the cut content as DLC instead of the stupid shit they did release?
>>318639830
Yeah this. I have played NV like 4 or 5 times, and it sucks me in every time. With Fallout 4 though, i'm at level 45 and i have been bored since about level 35. I've been looking up all the special locations and stuff on the internet just so i have something to do. I doubt i'll replay it.
>>318642109
No, But it does add really big guys, Like the legion arena warden who ONE HANDS a super sledge.
>>318642610
>cut content as DLC
They never would have lived it down
And they knew it, too. They made the choice to make the DLCs entirely separate from the main game so people didn't feel like they HAD to buy the DLC just to get the "complete" game they should have got on day one
>>318642610
I think they added legion only because they wanted it to be canon.
>>318642610
>Why didn't they focus on adding the cut content as DLC instead of the stupid shit they did release?
what if i told you the game would have been better if bethesda didnt rush obsidian to get the game out before skyrim came out
what if i told you obsidian didnt know gamebryo, and they werent given time to learn the engine beforehand
>>318637224
It's a fucking abysmal RPG and the fundamental gameplay is no better than modded New Vegas in most respects. Ranged combat is overall more fluid, but it's just about all you'll be doing. The new character progression mechanics are downright terrible, consisting almost entirely of bland percentile increases. Unarmed combat is absolute dogshit compared to NV's choice mixtures of special moves and weapons. Speaking of weapons, Fo4 hardly has any. There are more mods, sure, but half of them are downright inferior and don't even change the way the weapon looks. No uniques in any conventional sense outside of a handful of weapons. No hardcore mode or anything like it. Plot is generally bad.
>Tfw you will never be happy with your mods so you will never really play the game for more than 3 hours until starting over again
>>318637224
The gunplay and looting make it more enjoyable to play than NV
>>318642610
What the fuck are you talking about? Most locations have individualized rep independent of how the Legion feels about you. Unless you're going around and murdering people in places like Novac, Primm, or Goodsprings, the only people who should come anywhere close to hating you are the NCR.
Has there ever been a proper Legion expansion mod?
Kind of want to go back to NV after being thoroughly disappointed by 4, want to try going full Legion this time around.
I keep helping the NCR, but I really feel like killing all of them at some point.
>>318637224
Way funner
>>318638687
If you're a pussybitch.
I think everybody runs out a cowboy out for frontier justice on their first playthrough, though.
>>318643328
Many feel that way when they meet Lee Oliver and Cassandra Moore
>>318643657
>side with House
>Oliver probably commits suicide
Truly, the best ending
>>318643328
House does practically everything they're trying to do himself if he wins. It's pretty funny.
>>318643217
Yeah that's the thing, I killed them.
>>318643740
the best ending is vaporizing everybody and taking vegas for yourself
fuck you retard
Anyone looking for fun roleplaying ideas? Ive always been terrible at deciding on one for myself so I find this kind of thing helps immensely.
>>318643740
In a way, it will help the NCR in a long run. Shit general is dead, people will vote in a president that isn't warmongering, and they will think twice before expanding again.
>>318643874
Haven't you got packages to be delivering?
>>318643952
drug addict is a fun one
>>318643851
That's your fault, then. The Legion doesn't give a shit if you kill the fuckers in any of those places. You just fucked yourself out of a bunch of shit for no reason.
I feel like i ruined new vegas by creating an overpowered melee build. It got to a point where i was running around with a gra katana and slaughtering every NPC i found in every town effortlessly on very hard.
>pls surrender your weapons
>no
>you sure?
>"yeah. let's dance!"
rinse and repeat with every casino
But I finished Fallout 4 at around level 65, and I'm probably never going to replay it.
desu senpai NV would be a god tier game with just the basic gameplay of 4
>>318644278
unarmed is arguable the most broken build
iron fist or whatever it is that can ragdoll people when hit by melee+unarmed 100+greased lightning=literally the most broken build in the game
I've been playing with Veronica and Rex for something like 10 hours as my companions. Thinking about shifting her out. She's OK, but the Legion's assassination squads kick her ass.
>>318643952
Intelligent, energy-weapon based assassin who values professionalism above all else.
S - 4
P - 7
E - 4
C - 4
I - 7
A - 7
L - 7
>>318643028
you forgot about magical weapons you can find in random loot, like "+50% vs Mirelurks", "+20% vs Supermutants" or "unlimited magazine"
>>318644541
>Rex
>Veronica
>Rex and Veronica
>>318644796
i dont get the meme you shit
>>318644796
Be nice, first playthrough .
>>318644731
"Cold Flamethrower"
new vegas ported into fo4 when
>Convince girlfriend to play
>Takes Black Widow Perk
>Has option to kill Benny when he's not expecting it
>Fucks him and kills him in his sleep instead
I don't know why it bothered me, but it did.
Shields:
adds extra DT on top of your overall DT when blocking.
extremely low durability.
can only equip one-handed weapons.
reload speeds slower.
>>318644473
every build eventually becomes overpowered due to damage progression from tier 1 to tier 5 weapons.
I guess it's still better than Shit Weapons vs Damage Sponges that Fallout 3 was, but it still could use some proper balancing.
Started Honest Hearts for the first time. Laughed my ass off that you get those three caravan people with unique voice actors and fleshed out personalities/backstories, and then they immediately die.
Does Follows-Chalk ever shut the fuck up? I've heard DOES A PLACE REALLY EXIST WHERE PEOPLE GO IN A BUILDING AND GIVE ALL THEIR MONEY AWAY TO SEE PAPER SQUARES FLIPPED OVER ON A TABLE? and BET YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING AS NASTY AS YAO GUAI WHERE YOU COME FROM a million times.
>>318645539
>dfw no actual caravaneering DLC
>>318645539
I KNOW RIGHT? THAT FUCKING INTRO.
>>318645539
Just leave him at home. He's a shit tier companion and fucks up his own companion quest with his shitty, trigger happy AI
>>318645539
>BET YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING AS NASTY AS YAO GUAI WHERE YOU COME FROM
He says this? When there are giant fucking CAZADORS in HH?!
Imagine his face if he saw a deathclaw or a sentry bot.
>>318645902
just set him to passive
>>318635745
Does it run on toasters?I've only ever been able to play it on consoles like a pleb
>>318646114
I set him to dead instead
>>318646261
It runs on my 4 year old Dell XPS 15... depends on your definition of toaster.
>>318646261
It runs alright on toasters.
On my shitty, 5 year old laptop, I can run it in about half-screen resolution with the shadows turned off and the actor fade as far as it can go such that actors appear from farther away.
>>318646005
Is there a hidden "Cazadores" faction rep where I'm vilified with them for killing so many? I swear to god giant cazadors have been popping out of nowhere like hitsquads during this DLC. It's been fucking terrifying.
>>318646392
Well then I'll give it a shot.
I've only be able to shell out for a cheap all-in-one HP from last year.
Picked it up the other day and really enjoying it so far. Kicks the shit out of FO3. How many hours can you squeeze out of it?
>>318646261
I got it to run on a chromebook. Not well, but nonetheless.
>>318646567
1.5k in my case
>>318646567
Depends how thorough you are exploring, finishing quests, trying new builds, doing all endings and modding it
100+ easily if you enjoy it
>>318646567
Hundreds.
>>318646567
YMMV, but 160 is about what you can expect, especially if you mod it.
>>318646683
God damn nigga. That's impressive.
>>318646719
Fair enough. How many endings are there?
>>318638591
Reason for that is because of how the TTW saves work. It corrupted my old throwaway game when trying to import it. A clean save and a fresh start is better anyway.
Get More Perks, Project Nevada, and EVE mods as well as TTW. Am I missing any? I wanna fill my mods to the brim.
>>318635745
Did you see the New Orleans tease on that one obisidian's guys twit/instagram?
>>318637224
Fallout 4 is better.
I have no idea why people like New Vegas, it done everything wrong other than weapons and Old World Blues. It managed to look worse than Fallout 3, have all the content shoved into one side of the map, tons of quests with nothing to do in them (One of the named quests, ie: not unmarked was to kill ants down the road, once in Mojave Outpost and then in Nellis). Legion are easily discerned as the antagonists, NCR the protagonists. It attempted morally grey by letting you join multiple factions even when you knew one was for edge-factor. No longer dungeons that I can remember bar Repconn and the vaults. Fucking Freeside is more interesting in the Strip.
Added it's far too easy. I found my-self killing everything in one or two shots with a Holorifle on Very Hard at level 8. In Fallout 4 I find myself consistently running out of ammo (especially shotgun and 10mm) and having to wait behind cover often.
New Vegas, granted contains a better "story" (although it's still mediocre), but it's mechanically worse in nearly every other factor.
>>318646880
There are several, all based on what faction you chose, what people you helped, what companions you did quests for, even the DLC has proper endings.
>>318646880
Well there's 4 major factions, although one is a bit limited in content because it wasn't finished (Legion) and one is just "do whatever the fuck you want" (Independent)
Every minor faction and every companion gets a slide in the ending as well, based on what you've done
>>318646880
4.5, overall. There are something like 28 total slides in the entire ending sequence, but they're mostly governed by your choice of faction. It's a lot, lot better than 3/4.
>>318646880
There's several for each settlement, each companion and several different groups (Powder Gangers, Fiends, Boomers, BoS etc.)
There's a shitload of endings.
>>318647020
>NCR the protagonists
I don't think I've ever sided with the NCR. Independent or House is the way to roll.
>>318647127
Doesn't NV have a restoration mod for that? I could be thinking of a different game.
>>318647282
New Vegas has a bunch of restoration mods but nothing for Legion. The content wasn't cut, it was never made in the first place
>>318647020
>NCR the protagonists
You're either 12 years old or you just did a speedrun through the game.
>>318647282
The RP mod is for Fallout 2
There is a series of "New Vegas Uncut" mods that restore content that had to be cut because of console limitations and bugs that they didn't have time to fix (Scripting in Gamebryo is really awkward) and the J.Saweyer mod that adds a bunch of tweaks and minor fixes that the lead Dev. on the game wanted originally.
>>318647282
Sort of? [X] Uncut adds a lot of shit back into the game, like the Legion desecrating Forlorn Hope if you kill the officers.
>>318644846
Veronica is the worst companion. Just for enjoyment alone you should leave her somewhere to die.
If you want easy mode get Boone, cause he's death incarnate. Arcade's the most fully fleshed out companion though (except his snarky comment every time you go into sneak gets real old, real fast).
>>318647589
>Veronica is the worst companion.
That isn't how you spell "Lily"
>>318647418
Between them and the Legion, explain to me which faction is the more altruistic. The first comment I received from an NCR soldier was a sarcastic remark that he wished for a nuclear winter
>>318647020
The shooting is better, yeah. But the locations/settlements in New Vegas were much more varied and interesting than Fallout 4 (Goodneighbour and Diamond City being the only actual towns in the game...) and there's absolutely no choice and concequence. Dialougue is severely limited and the story/setting is way better in New Vegas. Not to mention from a gameplay perspective there's less freedom.
In New Vegas you could kill and eat every character other than a single robot. You can't do that in 4.
>>318647660
Lily isn't voiced by Felicia Day and doesn't gush about dresses every time you ask her to hold something
>>318647695
The first I received from the Legion is that I should be summarily crucified, on a neutral reputation.
>>318647660
>Loving old Grandma who wants to hit shit with a propeller blade
>Worst
nah man, nah
>>318647020
>New Vegas, granted contains a better "story" (although it's still mediocre)
kek
I need mods, mods to fix the game
>>318643952
Tired of f4
I bet the Tunnelers did this
>>318647695
Between the Legion and NCR? NCR of course, but that doesn't mean they're good.
The whole reason they come to the Mojave is for expansionist greed, they're corrupt as fuck and don't bother supplying or helping their soldiers. They don't care about their people and they just grow grow grow until they're starting to have starvation issues.
The very first encounter you have with the NCR is a small undertrained and underequipped squad just sitting outside of a town overrun by escaped convicts. They're just sat there doing nothing, and if you ask them why it's because they don't have the clearance, the training, the men or the supplies. That's your first encounter with them.
The rest of the game goes into detail as to why the NCR is a corrupt bloated mess destined to fail.
There's also more factions than just the Legion and the NCR. If you'd actually played the game, you might know that. Out of all the factions, I personally think House is the best option, but even then he's only protecting Vegas out of self-interest, but it just so happens that his self interest leads to the safe protection and care of the people in Vegas itself.
>>318647738
>you even get a special perk for eating the right people
Fo4 doesn't have jack shit like Meat of the Champions.
>>318647660
>Lily
>worse than The Felicia Day Experience
I agree that Lily's one of the weakest companions, but fuck Veronica
Veronica is shit-tier "quirky girl next door" pandering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n96-RSMAHE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJbcNemfwZ0
COME TO MICK AND RALPH'S
I really want to play this but it won't run on Windows 10. Every time I start a game it crashes after the intro movie. Gave up after a day of trying to fix it.
>>318647695
>Between them and the Legion, explain to me which faction is the more altruistic.
I'm curious as to how this relates to an faction being the protagonist.
BoS are cunts, right? I'm not alone in thinking this?
>>318648609
>Windows 10
WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?!
>What an ugly little worm you're..
>>318648782
I know, I know. But it's too late now.
>Skyrim > New Vegas
How popular is this opinion?
>>318647660
hating Veronica is a meme
You should hate her because she's voiced by some e-celeb, /v/ expects you to know
>>318648609
I don't want to be that guy but I'm running windows 10 and it works for me. I'm playing the Steam version. If you are as well then here are things you can try
>verify files via steam
>update video card drivers (the best thing to do is to do a clean uninstall before installing the latest version)
You should be looking for the fix yourself, though. When dealing with crashing issues, the-
>>318648929
Please die.
>>318635745
Can somebody just please make a Jesse Custer companion mod? Fights only hand to hand with the Perk "Word of God" where he has a random chance of saying "run" or "help" and the enemies flee or turn on each other respectively.
Quest is a search for God, but of course to fit into New Vegas. Dialogue can be taken straight from the comic with a few edits to fit the Wasteland.
>>318647020
>Legion are easily discerned as the antagonists, NCR the protagonists
That's the first impression
Then as you go deep, you'll learn how NCR is a slow barely functioning thing that tries to get be everywhere at once and doing a shit job at it because of its regulations and lack of manpower.
And how Legion is focused on bringing order to the area with extreme means. Traders who live in Legion's territory actually are okay with them since Legion actually manages to keep their territory safe.
If you start thinking in terms of sustainability in this apocalyptic world, the line gets really blurred.
In the end, Legion and NCR are based on old civilizations so the right way is to fuck them both.
>>318648724
Well, they're at war with NCR for no good reason. It's hard to believe their "we're doing the best for the future of humanity" shtick when they're fighting one of the most successful wasteland nations
Oh, and before they bugged out of California they irradiated NCR's gold reserves, fucking up the economy and forcing the government to return to backing the NCR Dollar on water, which is why it's the worst currency in New Vegas. Given how badly they seem to be losing their war, this comes off as being done purely out of spite
>>318637224
Mediocre FPS, shit RPG.
>>318647020
Play the game. If you think NV has worse graphics than 3 then you're out of your mind. NV hasn't got pretty graphics, but it's still better than 3.
>>318647415
Not cut, more so than that they didn't have time to begin on it.
>>318648813
I love that you can speak a bunch of Latin to this guy and he shits his pants thinking you're going to kill him.
>>318648973
Yeah, I tried verifying and fresh drivers. I even reinstalled a clean copy of Windows 10 with brand new drivers, hoping that would help. Same problem.
I'd really like to play it, FO3 was great when it came out.
>>318648034
>Don't bother helping or supplying their soldiers.
That's what they keep asking you to do. Camp Mc Carran asks you to help you feed their soldiers by repairing their equipment and starting trade with the Crimson Caravan. The Legion Fort has virtually nothing in terms of recreation or resting areas. One small tent with a slave cooking in it.
One of their camps in the North-East is over-flowing with ammo because they have too much of it and they generously hand you an amount. If you decide to help them then they will give you a radio to beacon on to.
They have a run-down building in Freeside entirely dedicated to handing food to settlers.
Are they the best option? No, but you have them, yourself, House (Who lets everything outside of The Strip crumble), and the Legion.
Are any of them fit for running and maintaining a successful government? No.
>>318637224
Worse writing and story.
Better everything else.
So do you guys think we might get a New Vegas 2 in the next few years or a game set somewhere else entirely?
>>318649193
>8 INT lets you speak one of several Latin phrases to a Latin speaker
>still stumped when Arcade pulls out "nothing new under the sun" and you have no choice but to ask why he can speak Legiontalk
Still annoys me
>>318649358
This is really ugly art
>>318644553
>C - 4
That simply won't do, I love bullshitting my way out of trouble.
>>318649358
Whos the guy in the fire helmet? I cant him on my team.
>>318649358
I doubt we'll ever go back to the West coast again with Bethesda at the reins, I don't think Obsidian, as much as they would like to, will ever work on another Fallout.
Wider Audiences!
Streamlined gameplay!
Shorter dialogue!
Lore is for losers!
>>318635745
Superior post-apocalyptic series coming through
>>318637224
>robots and terminals still function since Great War
>working power armors
>many wooden structures still standing here and there
>there's even unspoiled food from 200 years ago
>but somehow all weapons rusted to dust, and near everyone use metal pipes, clubs and homemade firearms
>>318649576
So its just like any other Fallout?
>>318649498
Believe it or not most people don't care much for "lore" of a fantasy world videogame. It's usually just a bunch of contrived random information that contributes nothing to the game experience. A simple story with a somewhat compelling plot is all that is necessary; gameplay itself should be the main focus.
>>318649407
I didn't notice.I'll never forget it now though.
>>318648034
none f that shit is in the game, just in Avellone's blog posts or whatever in the long, long list of shit he wanted to be in the game along with a morally grey Legion, interesting quests, writing beyond snarky dialogue, and an ending
>>318649358
I like using the mod for unlimited followers. It's fun to lug around an entire JRPG party around the Mojave.
>Try alt start
>Just feels weird about everything
>Try to play normally
>I've done this at least 20 times already
>Get bored
I'll never finish New Vegas
>>318649723
True, but when you have a company make an entire bible for lore, then have another company take over and shit all over it, it's not a pleasant experience.
>>318649498
>I don't think Obsidian, as much as they would like to, will ever work on another Fallout.
Don't say that. Don't you say that.
>start OWB
>remember that I don't like OWB and now don't feel like playing my character
>>318649786
>specifically names things seen in the game
>"none of that is in the game"
Come on now, anon
I played through Fallout 4 and there were only two side quests that stood out - The Silver Shroud and the USS Constitution (which is really just the ghoul rocket quest from New Vegas). There were tons of quests in New Vegas that I still remember like assassinating the President (which could be done in so many creative ways), interrogating the Centurion, investigating outpost distress calls, the aforementioned rocket quest, discovering who sold out Boone's wife, the cannibal quests for the White Glove Society....it just seems that New Vegas was a labor of love for Obsidian whereas Fallout 4 is just Skyrim with a different coat of paint.
>>318649792
Is there a futa mod for Lily? Asking for a friend.
>>318649832
Alt start? Like a mod?
If not, you cancompletely skip Goodsprings and the long trek around.
Joe Cobb has a stealthboy.
You don't have to do the starting tutorial. Although interestingly I don't think Trudy ever spawns if you don't start it.
>>318649932
>not liking the best DLC
Your taste a shit
>>318649956
wow, they want to expand and they don't think Nipton is worth spending men's lives on, what a litany of morally grey edgy storytelling
>>318650112
people talk about Fallout 3 or 4 shitting on the lore, they have nothing on Old World Blues or Dead Money, holy fuck
>>318649701
Have you played Fallout 4? Improvised weapons make easily majority of firearms you'll find. Weapons system is so much direct copy of Skyrim, it's outright retarded
>automatic laser musket
>>318649856
As much as I would like another Obsidian Fallout game, I just don't see it happening because Bethesda would rather drop out another slap dash game with some gimmicks sprinkled on top.I really want a 4 with the depth and fun of NV, believe me I do.
>>318649494
That's the player
>>318649494
It's the Mail man, look at the pip-lad.
>>318649358
takes place in Legion territory decades after the chaos that unfolded when they broke apart.
Some of them went on to form a society that upholds Caesar's laws and strict punishments.
Some of them decided to carry on Lanius' legacy to rule by might and cull the weak.
Some of them wanted nothing to do with the Legion anymore and went on to reform their old tribes.
>>318641495
holy shit literally kill yourself
Now can someone posting cool concept art trigger you so much? holy shit the autism is strong.
>>318649098
I mean that's a step up from shit FPS, shit RPG. Right?
>>318649982
Obsidian aren't afraid to do their own thing. A robot companion that communicates in beeps? Let's do it. A companion that literally can't speak and talks to you via hand gestures? They did it. Not only did they do it but there was a perfectly good explanation for it that tied into the story of Dead Money.
What are the companions in Fallout 4 again? All humans or humanoids? Terrible. New Vegas gave us a robo dog and FO4 just has a regular dog.
All this and I haven't even spoken about how godawful and linear the dialogue is in FO4. Literally the same options in the same directions every time. God, FO4 is fucking awful. Anybody who says it's a good game, I would never speak to again.
>>318647020
I agree 100%. Fallout 4 is better than new vegas by a long shot.
>>318649786
What?
Primm is that town he's talking about.
The Powder Gangers are a faction made up entirely of escaped NCR convicts.
Going to the Poseidon energy plant you get to see the fact they fucking hired Fantastic as their head scientist there.
Residents on the outskirts of Vegas suffer constant raids from Fiends because the NCR doesn't consider them a priority and orders have been given to just hold a line near McCarren.
McCarren and Forlorn Hope quests are exercises in the Courier basically fixing a bunch of problems the ineptitude and laziness of the NCR created for themselves.
That one outpost where everyone was killed by Mirelurks has notes spread all over the place where the solders are bitching about how stupid the recon was and how pointless this location was. Then they all died.
The game is pretty much getting to know the NCR inside and out. It's a fucking shame the Legion didn't get the same treatment and only came across as outlandishly edgy outside one or two conversations with merchants and Caesar.
>>318650538
>All humans or humanoids? Terrible.
I'm the same poster you replied to, but, to be fair, Nick Valentine is a fucking great character and I have a suspicion that Bethesda must have outsourced his writing.
The dialogue irked me as well. I loved skill checks in New Vegas because it gave personality and character to who I was playing. Charisma wasn't an RNG check and there were numerous personas that you could play as. You could play as Jesus Christ just as easily as you could play as Hannibal Lecter. The only person you can play as in Fallout 4 is "Helpful and concerned dad" and only respond in varying degrees of "Yes."
>>318650690
>Poseidon energy plant
Helios One, mate.
>>318650228
>they have nothing on Old World Blues or Dead Money, holy fuck
How did they break the lore? Preemptively I'll state they're both self contained areas and have been so since the bombs dropped. Sierra Madre possibly a little longer.
>>318647738
>Goodneighbour and Diamond City being the only actual towns in the game
How many actual towns you have in NV? Just the strip I guess.
>>318650910
It's still a Poseidon Energy solar plant.
>>318650910
Poseidon Energy built it
>>318647831
I always liked giving her Oh Baby! and taking her to Vault 3 to watch her Gallagher smash Fiend skulls.
>>318650976
Strip, Freeside, Camp McCarran, Caesar's Camp, Jacobstown, probably a few others I'm forgetting
Diamond City was a letdown. It's supposed to be *the* major hub and it's just a couple of shanties surrounding a noodle stand. Compare it to Novigrad in Witcher 3 and it's fucking laughable.
>>318650976
>Just the strip I guess.
>Goodsprings
>Primm
>Novac
>Jacobstown
>Freeside
>Westside
>Northside
>>318651201
>>318651216
Shit.
Need to pay better attention next time.
>>318650976
>implying
There are more quests in Freeside than there are in Diamond City.
Outer Vegas is composed of three major locations (Freeside, Westside, and Camp McCarran) on top of smaller locations like Aerotech, North Vegas Square, the Sharecropper Farms, and the Crimson Caravan HQ. I'm pretty sure there are more unique sidequests in that area alone than there are in all of Fallout 4.
>>318651359
>Goodsprings
>Primm
>Novac
>Jacobstown
>Cities with 5 buildings count for FNV (some are even completely destroyed before you even arrive in them)
>Covenant, the institute, vault 81 don't count for FO4.
Obsidrones are dumb as fuck.
>trudging up the road to New Vegas waiting for the next Legion Assassin squad to jump out
>look up at a sign post
>see this advert
>figure what the hell, start jerking off
>THE KAISER HAS MARKED YOU FOR DEATH
Welp
>>318651359
Primm is a single building and Jacobstown has nothing. What a waste.
>>318637224
It has faces that actually look human, but it's all down from there. It's definitely part of the pic related trilogy.
>>318651758
You take that back!
Primm is two buildings. Three if you count the post office.
Should i use WMX or WME? Which one is better?
>>318650859
These edits gets me everytime
god damn it. is there anything more like this?
>>318651723
Covenant and Vault 81 have very few side quests associated with them.
>>318651878
I'll count the post office, but not the hotel because that's just a dungeon you clear once and never enter again.
>>318651723
I didn't count faction settlements on purpose, only civilian ones, otherwise I would have to count every NCR camp, Nellis etc
>>318651758
>Primm is a single building
people are hiding in casino, but return to their homes once you bring sheriff. Never wondered why items in houses are marked as "owned"?
>>318651878
>I completely missed that the Vikki and Vance casino was enter-able the first time because the main doors are boarded up and you had to go to the doors around the bend.
I am not smart.
>>318651939
I don't even know what the original is
>>318652071
Also the reason of why everyone inside the casino has a gun.
>>318652125
Who cares, this is great.
Thanks anon.
>>318652119
theres literally no way you can miss that though since two Powder Gangers are hanging out front.
I guess it's time to finally start that melee only playthrough I've been thinking about for awhile. Which means it's actually time to spend hours looking for mods instead of playing the game.
>>318651908
I've seen WMX suggest more often but I don't know if that's any indication of quality
I only played modded NV long enough to get annoyed with how every gun merchant's inventory in swamped with all the new weapon mods
>>318652125
i got you, friend
>>318650859
meme it up all you want, ulysses was right and by extension chris avellone is right about this entire, corrupt world
>>318652343
I killed the two, saw the boarded doors and turned to the bison immediately.
It wasn't until I followed beagle out that I realized.
SAWYER DROPPING NEW INFO
Question:
>I'm not sure what your involvement in Honest Hearts was, but this is something I've personally always wondered. Zion as an environment is wonderful, and Joshua Graham is one of the most interesting characters in the series, but putting them aside the rest of HH is almost hollow. In terms of NPCs, Daniel nor the tribes seem to hold a candle to Graham, and not even Legionaires can side with the White-Legs which just made them one dimensional villains. Was there ever intended to be more to the DLC?
I was the director and creative lead on Honest Hearts. I designed the region, plot, tribes, and designed the Survivalist (written by John Gonzalez), Salt-Upon-Wounds, Follows-Chalk, and Waking Cloud (all three written by Travis Stout). Chris Avellone designed the original incarnation of the Burned Man for Van Buren. I redesigned the Burned Man’s background and personality as Joshua Graham for F:NV and wrote the character for Honest Hearts. I also designed and wrote Daniel.
Honest Hearts had the most compressed development schedule of the four main DLCs. At a high level, I designed it to be pretty simple because I was very concerned that we would not get it done on time. Other designers on the project wanted to do more complex things with it, but I had them reduce the complexity of the quests to limit potential risk.
>>318652119
I only recently realized there were some houses behind the post office.
>>318647020
>Legion are easily discerned as the antagonists, NCR the protagonists
Did you even play the game?
It's made very clear there is virtually no difference between the Legion and NCR. The reason why people side with the NCR isn't because they're good its because they're the most relateable because of how modern they are compared to the Legion. When you see how fucked up the NCR is, you understand what Caesar is doing and why. I feel like half of the people never actually listened to what Caesar wants to do or has any idea of the Legion's purpose.
Any tips for pacifist run?
>>318650112
I don't usually use the expression, but it's literally reddit : the dlc
>>318652457
>I also designed and wrote Daniel
>all of Daniels endings are bad
>Sawyer also wrote Arcade
>most of Arcade's endings are bad
The guy has a real hardon for fucking over idealists
>>318652659
Don't kill goat mom.
>>318652408
Thanks anon
So... where's the "I just blew up the New Vegas Strip! FUCK YOU HOUSE!" edit? It's the most obvious one
>>318651756
Degenerates like you belong on a cross
>>318652457
Fucking bethesda ruining everything
Imagine what we could´ve got if Obsidian had more dev time on the making of New Vegas.
>>318639830
>4 is a better FPS
>with those piece of shit rifles
just mod NV desu
>>318651756
Christ, I can imagine the slow awkward stop as the Legionnaire realizes what you're doing.
>>318652662
Because idealists in Fallout are fucking idiots. Not to mention Daniel is just an asshole.
>So hey, I did that thing for you guys. Josh said you'd give me the map to help me get out of here.
>lol nah, faggot, help me out first.
>You serious?
>Look faggot, you're my bitch now, better do what I say if you ever want to get out of Zion.
And that's the story of how I "accidentally" shot Daniel in his face.
>>318651908
Both.
If you know how to use FNEdit
>>318647695
>NCR
>altruistic
EYY XOTR
>>318635745
Guys Fallout 4 has been released!!!
>>318652476
Yeah, slaves, crucifixions and rape, count me in.
If they were more developed then maybe they would be a viable option but in the current state of the game, they are clearly the antagonists.
Im getting pink faces with FCO and New Vegas redesigned 3 , any idea how to fix this?
>>318652457
Such a shame, i like honest hearts anyway but wish they could have made what they originally intended. It's always the fucking time man. Bethesda had like 7 years to make fallout 4, imagine if obsidian would had that amount of time for NV.
>>318652434
On one hand he is kinda right about Fallout becoming too civilized, on the other he acts like a faggot about it.
That's the problem you get when your post-apoc games keep going further on the timeline.
>>318649358
Nawlins.
>>318653216
>If they were more developed then maybe they would be a viable option but in the current state of the game, they are clearly the antagonists.
Legion territory is practically raider free and without any of the corruption that marks NCR governance. If you believe that the ends justify the means, then Caesar doesn't seem so bad.
>>318646893
>More Perks
Why?
All the perks look to be useless or too good.
>>318653332
Zion Canyon looks great and that along with Joshua makes the DLC for me.
>>318647020
I'm playing on survival in Fallout 4, and I two shot everything with an assault rifle (not even a legendary one.)
How do you run out of ammo? Do you just not loot corpses? Or spend caps on it when you're low?
BIG IRON ON HIS NIP!
BIG IRON ON HIS NIP!
BIG IRON BIG IRON!
UUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuu
>>318653061
I know how to make a merged patch but not much else.
Is there any way to recruit arcade other than speech options?
>>318652662
Arcade was based on a character Sawyer roleplays as, I heard.
>>318652434
Chris avellone view on Fallout lore is literally perfect.
This post-post apocaliptyc meme is retarded, nobody is interest in a post-apocalyptic normal society, everyone wants to see mad max shit. Chris should make a Fallout game all by himself.
So who is the best companion for a melee build?
>>318653689
Have a high followers reputation then just ask him to come along with you
>>318653665
to the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day
>>318653694
>Arcade Gannon was one of several player characters J.E. Sawyer used while playing the Fallout tabletop RPG
And his middle name is Israel
>>318653694
Is Sawyer gay?
How much of SJW kekold you have to be to roleplay a gay male character if you're a "straight" male?
>>318653906
Yes. Israel like a promised land, something greater. It's indicative of Arcade's idealistic (if snarky) personality.
>>318653729
Boone, always Boone.
>>318653706
>Isometric (and thus hopefully cheaper) Fallout game with Avellone as Lead Designer/Writer
Would you play it Y/N?
what faction did /v/ join? BoS seem like some sort of dictatorship that would terrorize locals
Institute has done some unethical experiments but they have lots of stuff that could help or destroy humanity.
Railroad, seems like the only ok faction. They are probably the only ones besides the minutemen that could bring peace to the Commonwealth.
Minutemen, seem to be the best, could possibly be one of the biggest factions on the east coast if they are able to bring stability in the commonwealth.
>>318653958
>>Is Sawyer gay?
Pretty sure the answer is yes, but I forgot where I heard that.
>>318650672
nice meme XD
>>318654060
>FO4 factions
No Gods , No Masters
>>318654060
Yes Man
>>318652662
>MUH INNOCENCE!
Daniel was an idiot. You don't just bow out from the small oasis paradise in the middle of a fucking nuclear wasteland when you have all the resources and leadership to drive back your attackers because you're afraid of an entire society being exposed to conflict.
>>318643952
lets see
Is a revolver/handgun only character viable?
>>318654354
>play Honest Heart
>take the .45 auto, mod a silencer
>sneak 100
>gun 100
I got through the Divide by spending the whole DLC crouched and just shooting at people.
It's a bit harder against the Marked Men because they have super-awareness. But I did a massacre against the Tunnelers.
>>318654030
Chris could make a Fallout visual novel and I would still play it.
>>318654225
How is /adv/ the Courier?
>>318654595
Pitch this idea to him.
and ask him to play Shin Megami Tensei.
>>318653706
I am interested in post-apocalyptic society.
It was like that in Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas.
"Mad Max shit" = Fallout 3 and 4. So you really want another Bethesda Fallout tier game?
I finished porting everything over to Mod Organizer last night, but my texture packs don't work so I'll have to go back in. Might just shift over to try TTW, I can't stand F3 after playing New Vegas. It feels so flimsy, and FWE is really badly done even if it's by the PV guys.
>>318651908
I use WME, but even with compatibility patches for Project Nevada I have a bunch of mods that won't go on guns. I buy a .22 pistol and extended .22 pistol barrel, but I can only put an extended mag, las sight and some other thing on it.
>>318653689
You can flirt with him using Confirmed Bachelor perk
also if your intelligence is 3 or less, he will tag along out of pity
>>318653706
>This post-post apocaliptyc meme is retarded, nobody is interest in a post-apocalyptic normal society, everyone wants to see mad max shit.
I agree that Fallout is getting too civilized, but the series has never been or supposed to be The Road/Book Of Eli survivalist shit.
I think the best tone for Fallout is somewhere in between Fallout 1 and 2. Where there are civilized factions in the Wasteland like the BoS and NCR, but they're not huge nations and the Wasteland is still primarily a lawless wilderness filled with mutants and dollops of crazy Mad Max shit. The Wasteland should be a desert with shrubs here and there, and areas of radioactivity with crazy 50's pulp sci fi stuff.
I think people lose track of the fact that Fallout is based off of 50's pulp sci-fi/horror.
>>318654905
>Comparing Fallout 1 with FO2 and NV
Have you even played the games? FO2 and FNV look like a theme park, while FO1 was actually about surviving in the wastes.
>>318655230
> FO1 was actually about surviving in the wastes.
Yeah, and there's about two billion games, books and movies that do that.
Fallout is interesting because it's post-nuclear western frontier.
>hey everyone says unarmed is crazy good
>alright lets try that out for my new project nevada+jsawyer+hardcore run
>every single fight I lose 3/4 of my health and have to blow through doctor bags and stimpaks like crazy
This isnt fun
>>318652476
I know someone who literally refuses to even speak to Caesar. Tried telling him he's missing out on a neat conversation but he refuses to even hear him out.
Coincidentally, he's also a hardcoresjw
>>318655442
>Project Nevada
You fucked up lad. Uninstall that and you'll start having fun.
Fucking bored of Fallout 4.
Been playing it on an Xbox One sticking with Very Hard. The gunplay is a bit better than unmodded New Vegas but once you get certain perks the game becomes easy as shit.
Intelligence is effectively a dump stat for most builds with the idiot savant perk.
Going to try New Vegas again with a Repair, Survival, and Medicine character who juices up to prep for encounters. At least that's my idea.
You get so many godamn consumables in FO4 but there's no need or drive to use a 1/10th of them which sucks because that's a fun minigame of sort in of itself.
Probably going to stick with Project Nevada and World of Pain and CASE.
And yeah probably a sex mod because that NCR sniper chick (Ghost?) needs to get facefucked.
>>318655230
>FO 1 was about surviving the wasts
yeah man I sure do remember those tough ass wastes huh, starting off with a 10mm, going to hub, doing some easy ass jobs and getting myself a .223 pistol and wiping out the Khans completly
hard lyf in the wastes man
>>318655442
Should've run north through the cazadors to pick up Love and Hate from Bonnie Springs
>>318655552
What's "wrong" with Project Nevada? Looking for something that "smooths" the gunplay.
>>318655230
>FO1 was actually about surviving in the wastes
Yes, I replayed both games last month and FO1 wasn't about actually surviving in the wastes.
Fallout was never about it. The only reason why I can think of as to why someone would think that Fallout is about surviving in the wastes is that you only played Fallout 3.
Fallout was never about surviving in the wastes.
>>318654225
>Fantastic
>/sci/
>>318655442
Project Nevada makes everything more deadly by default, including you. So running up and punching everything to death is quite a bit more difficult.
You'll never be punching deathclaws to death either, those fuckers will oneshot you even in power armor.
I recommend fucking around with the rebalance settings and see what you enjoy most. Best part of PN is how much it can be customized.
>>318655857
Sounds about right for /sci/, yes
>>318655780
Turns the game into Cawadooty and a shitty FPS rather than an RPG. JSawyer is all you need for an actually balanced experience rather than a "hardcore4u" damage modifier.
>>318648014
So is Bethesda going to release an alien DLC for Fallout 4 set in the Mojave area as a final fuck you to people who enjoyed the original series?
>>318655780
If you don't want to play a twichshooter where everything dies in five seconds, and you want to play something where your gear and stats actually play a role in combat and melee/unarmed is viable, then play Vanilla or JSawyer.
Project Nevada just turns it into a really poorly made FPS game.
>>318656254
>Project Nevada just turns it into a really poorly made FPS game.
I don't think you need a mod to do that.
>>318653706
Fallout is a difficult balance between frontier civilization and crazy nuclear wasteland.
>>318654354
I've been doing revolver/shotgun only in my latest run and it's been going fine. Although I'm on HH and I already ran out of ammo so I have to rely on the .45 Auto.
>>318655841
Fallout 1 is about killing fucking mutants. And radiation. And power armor. And reading logs. And joining these Brotherhood of Steel dudes who are a little bit xenophobic because this whole landscape is full of radiated assholes
And losing your FUCKING dog because of a red forcefield
And psionics
>>318656941
"My idea is to explore more of the world and more of the ethics of a post-nuclear world, not to make a better plasma gun."
>>318653382
>practically raider free
That's because they're the raiders.
>>318656254
>>318656143
>default setting plebs
I don't use it for the shitty default damage changes but if you were really too retarded to work with the simple config menu that comes with it you deserve to not get all the other shit it adds.
>>318649014
That would be cool
>>318657256
Good quote
Where is any of that in the game other than there being a sweet plasma gun and not much talk about ethics
>>318657350
You know I really want to be a Genghis Khan character now.
Unite the misfit factions of the Mojave and fuck the established shit up, nomadic horse raider style.
>>318657350
>raiding your own territory that you control entirely
Fucking useful
>>318657397
It's not about being unable to tweak it, it's that the whole thing is trash and JSawyer takes the default game (which was already good) and makes it more balanced.
>>318656220
Here's hoping.
>Creator of some mods you like breaks it by updating a part of one without fixing up the other part to work with it
>Then says he quits modding
Now I can't stand using any pistols ;_;
>>318657682
>the whole thing is trash
Ah, you're doing that whole ironic shitposting thing. Gotcha.
>>318655230
>all about surviving the wastes
>you begin the game with a bajillion 10mm rounds
>>318657480
"Cool world with cool approaches to goals" would've been a better summary.
Shoot shit up - Cool. Talk - Cool. Sneak - Cool. Challenge the leader to one on one combat machismo - cool.
As opposed to FO4 where the only cool shit you can do is kill everyone in the compound. Which is cool for a bit but gets a bit repetitive.
>>318657887
Yo that looks rad as hell. What mod?
>>318657887
Fucking hell why don't more games do that?
The only game I can actually think of that has that style of ammo checking is a shitty zombie I can't remember the name of.
>>318657889
But it's not ironic. Project Nevada is legitimately shit.
>>318657887
Aren't those animations from CS:GO or whatever it is
>>318658192
>my opinion is fact
>>318658310
I could say the same thing for you.
Anyway, tell me what's good about Project Nevada. We've already established and you even admitted that the combat rebalance is shitty, so what's good?
>>318658146
Only one I can think of is the King Kong video game, probably one of the best movie to video game games I've ever played(except for the kong parts)
>>318658095
It's
http://www.gunetwork.org/t6038-release-animated-ammo-weapon-condition-checking and http://www.gunetwork.org/t3578-release-hitman-s-1st-person-weapon-animation-overhaul
>>318658146
I believe Metro 2033 has it, at least that's the game I was thinking of when I decided I wanted to mod NV some before playing it.
>>318647660
You know thinking about Lily, is there any ending for her that isn't shit. You either make her take her meds and she forgets her grandchildren forever, keep her on her current dosage level where she'll eventually wander off west after her past that no longer exists, or tell her to stop taking the meds and she becomes basically just a beast.
>>318657987
Nothing to do with the quote you quoted at all
>>318657480
>not much talk about ethics
Did you skip all dialogues in the game or something?
>>318658776
There is no good ending for her no.
It's really just an argument about whether it would be better to forget or to continue to live in delusion.
>>318658776
Full dosage is probably the safest option, even if the loss of her memories is sad.
>>318650112
Mama miá, you taste a shit, you taste-a it good
>>318650112
DLC POWER RANKINGS
>GOD TIER
Point Lookout, Dead Money
>GOOD TIER
Honest Hearts, The Pitt
>OKAY TIER
Old World Blues
>BAD TIER
Lonesome Road, Broken Steel
>SHIT TIER
Operation: Anchorage
>ALIENS STARTED THE GREAT WAR TIER
Mothership Zeta
The only thing you could possibly argue with this list is swapping OWB and HH. I personally prefer tribes over SCIENCE, but I guess it's subjective. Everything else is bang on.
>>318639635
I crucify him... everytime.
Then after a few days I take a ripper to him. Fuck that dude.
>>318658776
I told herto let go
>>318659129
Dead Money > Old World Blues > Lonesome Road > Honest Hearts > The Pitt > Point Lookout > Anchorage > Broken Steel > Zeta
>>318658776
Her grandchildren are long gone, no matter what actually happened to them
The kindest thing to do is let her move on from the life she had and adjust completely to the one she has
>>318658776
Considering that the whole theme of the game is letting go, the full medication ending is the best for her.
Wanted to start a new role play melee build, either drunken wandering merc siding with house, or a don quixote type. How should I proceed?
>>318650112
>not DM/LR
Come on now, OWB is really nice but it's not the best.
>>318659436
>Considering that the whole theme of the game is letting go,
That's the theme of the DLCs
>>318659509
Get Cass, stock up on Whiskey, get shitfaced
>>318656220
All 4 FO4 DLCs are going to be different alien ships, including one where you time travel and drive the ship that crashed in FO3 and it's revealed you caused the water in DC to be contaminated and also aliens built Liberty Prime
>>318659420
Are you just being contradictory by putting F3 DLC dead last? One of the few things Fallout 3 did well was 2 of its DLCs.
Lonesome Road is weak and you know it is.
>>318659568
Stop oppressing my opinion you cis scum
So, what's the list of the best mods to get for NV?
Other than Project Nevada, Sawyer mod and Skies. Obviously.
>>318650538
I'll never forget my interactions with Dr. 8 after my Courier realized how the transmissions were working. Felt pretty damn smart myself by then.
>>318659626
Reccomend a S.P.E.C.I.A.L spread?
>>318659663
Not him but I for one liked Lonesome Road. Enjoyed the setting and some of the story though not as much as the other DLC. Still not bad though
>>318659590
No, the theme of letting go is all over the main game and even the prequel comic "All Roads."
The devs literally stated this. Pay attention. They just do it in a more subtle way than literally telling the player to Let Go.
>>318659836
Remove Project Nevada and Nevada Skies.
JSawyer, Fellout and YUP are all you need.
>>318637161
>Luck and charisma 10
My nigga. I just made a character like that. Also almost pure melee combat wise, but that's just because I don't play that sort of character much and it was time for a change up. Usually go stealth.
I don't have much barter, but I'll live with that. I had to dump a lot into melee just to keep alive early on if I wanted to roll with this character... Just got veronica, so we can power fist (because she's a lesbian) our way across the wastes. Good times...
>>318660151
see
>>318660125
>>318660125
>can't afford F4
I've played it, I'm simply bored.
>>318660125
I realize this is bait, but just in case you're serious.
New Vegas is just a better game overall if you want an RPG. So that's why people play it.
We're not twelve years old so we don't just disregard everything when the new stuff comes along.
>>318640924
>not liking the worlds greatest plinking round
It's s fucking shame they're so god damn expensive now. When I was a kid you could buy pricks of the shit for 20 bucks... Why. It's so tiny...
>>318660121
Cool, thanks.
>>318659836
FCO is alright, but it works best in conjunction with New Vegas redesigned.
World of Pain is pretty fun. Lots of new stuff to explore whilst still retaining that vanilla feel.
Bison Steve and New Vegas Bounties are fun quest mods. Very good voice acting that doesn't suck you out of the game.
Freeside Open and the Uncut quests are essentials I'd say. Patches together missing quest content.
Also, regarding skies, what is the best mood and why is itwestern skies
>>318659129
>Point Lookout
>God tier
>enemies arbitrarily ignore DR
Fuck no
>>318660241
I can't, it's all crossed out.
>go into shop
>radio playing
>"AHHHMMM GOOIIIN UNDURRRR"
>can't find radio to turn it off
>leave and find a different shop
It's like they don't want my caps.
>>318643952
has anyone actually played through as any of the characters they rolled on this? how did you find it?
>>318653665
>>318653892
>you will never play New Vegas for the first time again
>>318654225
>I won the lottery! Check my quads!
>>318654225
I feel the ghoul cowboy should be /d/
>>318658709
King Kong PS2 game was seriously good.
>>318660023
Please stop. I see you post this bit about "Let Go" in seemingly every NV thread I read.
Moving forward is not the same as letting go. The game clearly demonstrates that there are some truths and values of the past that are worth holding onto, that allow us to move forward into better futures after having learned from them. It's a sentiment much better reflected with characters' endings still being good if they hold onto bits of their past.
Like Boone's rage and guilt being redirected and coalescing into a purpose. Or Raul enjoying a second wind as a gunslinger dispensing justice and lead in equal measures.
But there are also characters that get bad endings by clinging to the past. Anything concerning the Brotherhood of Steel is a testimony to that.
And that's why being overly reductionist about it and saying it's only "Let Go" is really fucking annoying. Especially when you condescend to think that's the only message people should be getting out of the game when an enormous, broad RPG is susceptible to all kinds of readings. There are all kinds of things you can take away from it.
>>318660586
I just downloaded a bunch of radio mods. They're pretty okay. Wave Radio even has a host, but he sounds like a fucking tool. Still a good station though. Radio Venice is okay for classical music (5 hours of it) but the colume shifts a bit too much. Radio Free Wasteland has a few stations that are okay, and Conelrad is probably the best. It's all Nuclear public service warnings and songs about A bombs and communists and shit.
I wanted to like Old World Radio, but some of them were glitchy and didn't fit in with the rest of the game well enough.
Anyone know why my Nevada Skies mod keeps bombarding me with dust storms every day? Like all the time. More dust storms than not.
>>318660623
I'm actually playing mine right now. Got Victors Shack, no companion and Pistol Packing Mama. Just changed the last bit to her have Black Widow and the other one as well as cannibal.
Pretty fun
>>318660121
What's wrong with Project Nevada and Nevada skies?
>>318660495
Its not just that they ignore DR. They just have a scripted guaranteed minimum amount of damage per shot, something like 30 damage or so.
This minimum guaranteed damage applies PER PELLET for the shotgun enemies, thus you have inbred mutant rednecks that fucking demolish power armor like paper.
Because Bethesda is absolute shit at game balance.
Fallout 3:
>They asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I said I had a theoretical degree in physics.
Fallout New Vegas:
>I won the lottery!
Hmm...
>>318659663
How is Lonesome Road weak?
The story, dialogue and tone is great.
>>318660938
Sounds like he needs to "let go" of his theory. Amirite?
>>318661096
But both of those appear in the same game?
>>318661096
Are you retarded, anon?
>>318661096
Not sure what you're even trying to say here. That theoretical degree thing is from New Vegas, so is the lottery thing.
>>318661087
>What's wrong with Project Nevada
Absolutely nothing since almost every aspect of it is configurable.
Nevada Skies is outdated.
>>318659129
>Dead Money
Best writing. Best characters. Whole "survival" part to it
>Old World Blues
Most content, F2-style crazy/creepy mix
>Point Lookout
Very atmopheric. Touches pre-war history of US. Best side quest in all of Fallout 3 (The Velvet Curtain)
>The Pitt
Very short, but I liked setting. It touches survival style a bit, would make good use of NV crafting.
>Honest Hearts
Most open DLC of NV, but also least engaging. Replaying is just checkbox of things to grab.
>Broken Steel
More Enclave redshirts to kill. Yay, exactly what I wanted...
>shit
>Mothership Zeta
Running around spaceship, shooting aliens...
>diarrhea
>Operation Anchorage
Let's improve F3 by removing last enjoyable part of it: freedom of exploration.
Hope you like playing as stealth arche... I mean sniper.
>Lonesome Road
this one is outside of scale. It's well designed, combat-oriented DLC, that serves as finale of NV DLCs and New Vegas as whole.
>>318661185
>>318661279
>>318661308
Not him, first line's definitely from 3
>>318661087
Nevada skies is just butt ugly and looks like wallpaper pasted onto the skybox. The lighting doesn't fit.
The vanilla artstyle is actually pretty nice and Fellout just removes the ugly tint, but the warm campfire colours and vivid sky still stay.
Project Nevada removes the importance of gear/stats and turns it into a 1-hit-kill fest. The "balances" fuck with the balance of the original game and try to turn it into something it's not. New Vegas is a great RPG, it doesn't have the capability to be a good shooter so it should just stick with what it's great at, which is what JSawyer does, as JSawyer is effectively a fix of the original game by the lead developer.
Yeah, Fallout 4 had better gunplay compared to vanilla NV, but I really don't play Fallout for that at all. I doubt I'll replay the game for the gun mechanics, because they're hardly better than modded New Vegas.
I won't even bother going into what Fallout 4 did poorly, it's just not worth it.
>>318643952
Rollin in the river
>>318661464
No it isn't. Fantastic in Helios One says that line.
I literally just talked to him. If you're going to bait people try a little harder.
>>318661464
It is from Fantastic in New Vegas and you know that.
>>318661464
Shitposter pls stop.
The character Fantastic in Helios One says that line, which is in New Vegas.
>>318661464
Son are you baiting me?
>>318660938
You. I like you.
>>318661603
>>318661637
>>318661648
>>318661661
3 still has better dialogue than New Vegas
>>318661350
Operation Anchorage is fine if you just do what the game expects - turn your brain off and cowadoody your way through it. The interaction with the Outkasts and the rewards you get for finishing the sim are worth the price of admission.
>>318644278
Get a difficulty mod, senpai
Realistic Weapon Damage is good, you do a shit ton of damage with all weapons, but so does NPCs, so you can't just memerush them.
>>318661661
I wonder if Oliver Swanick and Fantastic knew each other somewhere in the past.
I feel like they would be great friends. Both were pretty funny.
>>318661751
>[Intelligence] So you fight the Good Fight with your voice on Galaxy News Radio
>>318661751
Show a cap of a good dialogue in 3.
>>318661751
>fucking up your bait this hard
So you fight the Good Fight with your voice on Galaxy News Radio?
>>318661867
see >>318661839:^)
>>318661093
I never even knew they did they this.
I've only played Fallout 3 via TTW.
>>318661164
DLC built around a single character would be fine, except the character in question is so poorly written it hurts. It wouldn't be as bad if there wasn't this huge build up on Ulysses.
HH had the build up for Graham, but Graham was an interesting character which did all the previous mentions of him justice.
>>318661350
You sir are very correct. I'd have to say though, because you can't complete vanilla New Vegas then complete the DLC because of the way the ending scripts work, the point you made about LR serving as the finale doesn't work. The finale will always have to be the second battle at Hoover Dam.
>>318661751
ABOMINATION OF SCIENCE
>>318661751
It really, really doesn't.
>>318646567
Easily over 500 if you're into roleplaying and doing different runs.
About to play NV for the first time, i've only played F3 before.
Any tips ?
>>318661923
Anon why are you posting loli Italian Destroyers in this thread?
>>318661901
Sawyer himself said in Twitter that it is not Fallout related.
You know, it is probably for the new Vampire The Masquerade game. Hopefully Paradox will hire them.
would it break the game too much if I added a mod that gave a perk every level instead of every two?
>>318661519
You can't turn off the one hit kills in Project Nevada?
>>318661839
Pretty sure that's just a meme and not in the actual game
>>318661867
Everything in Trinity Lane is pretty god-tier f*am. I honestly don't understand the love for New Vegas
>>318662001
Ignore the quests, go north out of Goodsprings
>>318661992
>you're all cannibals
Do you think it's making fun of FO3?
>>318661962
Ulysses was pretty fucking well written and there was no build up.
Why do you think that Ulysses was poorly written and there was a build up?
>>318662001
Your skills actually matter now, play on Hardcore
>>318657647
welcome to the world anon, its called taxes. Its kinda like protection money but the police won't help you.
What character did you like in New Vegas the most?
I loved Hanlon and his trouble with how to handle the Rangers being stationed to basically kill themselves, because of corrupt Brahmin NCR back in Shady Sands.
It just summed up NCR so well.
I find it ironic I can't remember any character from Fallout 4, that I enjoyed outside of Codsworth.
>>318662120
>Everything in Trinity Lane is pretty god-tier f*am
Post cap of good dialogue instead of just saying it has good stuff.
>>318662178
>>318662178
>>318662178
Here's an example of great dialogue in Fallout 3
>>318662074
No, but your specific character build ends up mattering less and less the more perks you take
>>318661751
The shitstorm you just started.
>>318662083
You can, but I don't know why you would play it otherwise.
"You can turn everything off" isn't a good argument.
>>318662062
Why not? What, are you a dirty finn or something?
>>318662197
>there was no build up
Every DLC has a mention of him. The good ends of Dead Money all mention the Courier's "final battle" with him. He's a fairly prominent figure in OWB.
>>318662178
failed skill checks are a godsend
>>318662120
>Pretty sure that's just a meme and not in the actual game
>trying to deflect this hard
Hahaha oh my fuckign god anon u cannot be this stupid
>>318649547
That's probably because Fallout is post-post-apocalyptic
>>318662128
This 100%
>>318660686
>will have to wait years before you can play Fallout 1 and 2 again, because you played so much, you know every bit of them
also true for Gothic 1 and 2
>>318662523
>tfw bought the Steam versions of FO1/2 and Steam can't even launch them
Managed to get Fallout 1 running thanks to Fixt at least
>>318662197
He was a literal self insert of Avellone who had little to no reason behind what he was doing in The Divide.
He just wanted to blow shit up and for some reason had a vendetta against you. It'd be somewhat justified if Lonesome Road occurred AFTER Hoover Dam because he'd have a reason to go after you (especially if you decide to side against the legion)
And every DLC built up Ulysses. HH literally has a tribe who model themselves on him. Did you just not play any of the DLCs other than Lonesome Road?
I liked the Marked Men though. They were pretty neat.
>>318662332
>a childish insult is great writing
>>318662848
is the blue ui a mod or a default option?
>>318662246
The minute I saw Benny in the intro I thought "oh shit this guy is going to cause me so much grief, and yet it's going to be so satisfying when you actually kill him"
Shame it never really transpired like that.
>>318654354
The game screams Cowboy at you, so yes. It's not amazing unless you mod it (I love RWD, it's so fun) but it can work.
To sum NV up: you can do anything and make it work. On /fog/, we tried to handicap a character as much as possible:
>mod him to 1 special in everything
>no skill leveling
>had to use 1 weapon until it degraded or ran out of ammo and pick a new one up
>same with armor
>complete all DLCs and main quests
>very hard and hardcore
There was probably more.
Anyways, it's a real fucking hustle but it can work out.
>>318662830
Ulysses' actual plan to nuke the wasteland isn't THAT non-sensical, as when you question him on it he says he's not going to actually straight up blow them up, but destroy key locations and roads so they "bleed out" (I realize there's a disconnect from that and what actually happens if you set the launch.). You've got to keep in mind that he's utterly obssessed with the Courier and his loss of the Divide. In his twisted mind, he thinks that firing all these nukes stored under his old home and getting revenge on the random mailman that he blames for it (It obviously isn't actually your fault. He just can't cope with the situation so he blames you) will somehow bring back the Divide. Return what was lost. Obviously it doesn't make any sense but the guy is just lost in the head. His life before the Divide was pretty nomadic and obviously the loss of his tribe traumatized him. Finding a home in the Divide was obviously incredibly meaningful to him, and having it snatched away just fucking broke him.
>>318662830
>He was a literal self insert of Avellone who had little to no reason behind what he was doing in The Divide.
>It's an "I didn't understand Ulysess' motivations" post
>>318662582
Is that with mods or not?
Never went for 1 int runs.
>>318662332
Fuck, I had managed to forget little lamplight existed. Why did you have to remind me about the town filled entirely with annoying essential npcs that you are forced to deal with on the main fucking quest?
>>318662926
I bet you couldn't come up with better than Bethesda
>>318663025
I'm pretty sure you can just change the UI colour in the options menu
>>318663162
If Zenimax Media was sending me a Bethesda paycheck I sure as hell could
>>318658828
Okay so Chris was being a "writer fag".
"Durr ethics" is a flag that someone is being a writer fag (unless you're Spinoza). Sorry that's how life is. What was cool about Fallout was the number of approaches you could choose from to solve situations in a world that warranted a mix of cunning and/or violence.
Part of that is obviously writing NPCs with motivations beyond "kill PC" because that allows the PC to approach them in different ways.
>>318663130
Because MacCready grew up to be kinda nice guy.
>>318653216
>Yeah, slaves, crucifixions and rape, count me in
Thats how you win wars, and Legion plays to win.
>>318663359
give me a quick dialogue sample, go
>>318660446
A World of Pain is a bloatware, shitty balance and just bulletsponges thrown at you in large quantities. It's awful.
>>318663067
This is why I was never compelled to like the character. Crazy for the sense of being crazy doesn't do it for me.
>>318663162
Oh shut the fuck up with literally the biggest strawman argument you could put forward.
>"Waaah why don't you do better?"
>>318663162
Whether or not I can come up with something doesn't mean it's good writing.
>HOW ABOUT YOOOOOOU DO ANYBETTER HUUUUHHH????
You're being childish.
What's a good ENB for NV?
>>318663460
[Intelligence] So you fight the Good Fight with your voice on Galaxy News Radio.
>>318663521
He is not crrrazy. He is broken.
>>318661751
[INT] Are you rusing me?
>>318663471
The game is a bullet sponge anyway if you don't have JSawyer and Realistic weapon mod on.
And I'm sure there is a patch to fix the balance issues, like removing the OP weapons.
I liked Doctor "LIQUID" Mobius
>>318662926
Eh, it doesn't bother me very much that the perk that's supposed to give you conversation options that a child would like and relate to is very childish. Going for the "Your face looks like my butt" route is better than if they had written it like "Awww come on! Pretty please let me in!" Being confrontational with a childish insult gels more with a boy like MacCready.
But the speech check option is really bad.
>>318661962
>because you can't complete vanilla New Vegas then complete the DLC because of the way the ending scripts work
You are correct, but take note that Lonesome Road was released year after main game, at this point anyone who cared completed game long time ago, and you are most likely rolling back from scripted savegame before Dam. Even ending of LR is pretty clear that from that point on, all that's left is Hoover Dam.
Also setting and plot heavily relies on setting and plot of main game, far more than any other DLC, you are pretty much expected to complete game before.
Was there anything in FO3 that explained why there were children in FO3 200 years after the bombs?
That's gotta be the most glaring plothole
>>318663880
Well, when a raider fucks a simpering wastelander hard enough...
>>318663662
I knwo it is, but AWOP is much worse.
I always run with RWD now anyways, makes gameplay so much better in almost all regards.
>>318643952
Repconn
>Try low int (3 int) playthrough
>Not a single piece of low int dialog all the way through primm
>Stop low int playthrough
lets see those Couriers /v/
>>318663962
Shit, I meant Little Lamplight
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVJDgv4PfM6_w-KZLT0sjlA d
>>318664031
You can pregnant before the age of 16, y'know
>>318663787
I always chop this fucks head off after robbing him of all the caps he can give.
>>318663787
I finally know who this guy is and he doesn't do anything in the labs.
>>318662582
Lieutnant Monroe is potentially the first NCR soldier you meet of the entire game (Save for this trooper who warn you about Primm), and I love how he himself just represent everything about the Republic.
He's not really a bad guy at heart, he cares about his soldiers, yet he'll also be more than happy to take a bribe to close his eyes or betray the Khans and kill them all as soon as his hostages are out.
I also love how you can convince him to honor his deal, really shows on a tiny scale how you're going to change everything in the Mojave.
>>318662417
>>318662830
Every DLC mentions him being equal to the player character, which is what he actually was trying to do after the destruction of the Divide (if you actually read the dialogue instead of skipping, which appears that you both did). Being someone whose actions shape the wasteland. He was inspired by that after the Divide got destroyed by a simple delivery of a courier, like he says in Lonesome Road:
"My history isn't revenge, or hate. The road that brought us both here - isn't about that. It is about the message you carried. The one in that package, whether you knew it or not. The message that one can kill a nation. Can kill a symbol. And all that gather beneath its flag. I don't blame you for the Divide. I blame you for what you made me see."
He is always portrayed as a "melancholy fellow", you can even hear him in Christine's tapes in OWB.
Ulysses wants tribes to have their own identities, their own ancestry and history.
He resents the NCR, the Legion and House because all these "big" governments erase tribes, erase people, their history. He also talks about that in Lonesome Road.
He spills all his motivations for you in the Lonesome Road. Really, did you skip the dialogue, did you miss his tapes?
What made me like even more Ulysses and Joshua is that they were not "big bad wolves". They were not the myth surrounding them, they were people, humans. I love this deconstruction of a myth, the reality behind the stories, behind the myths.
>>318664000
>using anything other than Riot Gear or Ranger armor
>>318664204
>Being in the NCR
I need a good flashlight mod..this Pipboy shit isn't cutting it with these dark as fuck nights.
>>318664204
>using anything but your Birthday Suit
>>318643952
Bland as hell
>>318664204
Thanks, this became my new wallpaper
>>318664204
I killed a Ranger and put his helmet on my shelf in my apartment in Freeside.
>>318664129
Doesn't explain how a bunch of kids act completely against any normal child behaviour, why they would kick out the adults or how the left over kids in Big Town are so fucking incompetent in comparison.
Don't even try to explain it to be honest, it's a complete train wreck.
>>318664364
Legion scum.
Though, I must say, killing Caesar never gets old.
>>318664418
Degenerate scum.
>>318664204
Erica, been a long time since I've seen you
What'd you think of FO4?
>skip Nipton
>get Mark of Caesar in Vegas
>go to Nipton
>>318664603
Holy shit, really?
God damn, Obsidian, now this is fucking nice.
>>318664581
It was mediocre. I don't really like it. I'm pretty much forcing myself to play through it.
>skip Nipton
>kill Vulpes on the Strip
>go to Nipton
>>318664603
Am I the only one that always butchers Vulpes and crew in Nipton every time?
>>318664603
Shit like this is why NV is GOAT.
>>318663359
"The flight plan I just filed with the Agency list me, my men and Dr. Pavel here but only one of you!
First one to talk gets to stay on my aircraft!"
>>318664603
>>318664705
Obsidian pls stop
You're too good for this world.
>>318663119
Mods. I think they abandoned it tough.
>>318664603
And thats why i like New Vegas, all the others are linear as fuck.
>>318664603
>>318664705
Neat, I was worried about stuff like this falling apart if I used the Alternate Start mod and went off the path Obsidian wanted me to take
>>318664816
Legate?
>>318664816
was meant for
>>318663460
>>318664603
>>318664705
Never knew this. Wow.
>>318664704
Yeah, I'm in the same boat.
Sure, the guns are pretty nice, but so what? They're still not great, there's little variety in weapons (almost no melee/unarmed) and the characters, worldbuilding and quests are frankly shit.
It hardly even feels like a Fallout game, at least in my opinion.
>>318664705
No fucking way, never thought of that.
Gotta give it to Obsidian, they know how to rpg.
>>318664770
No I do it too...I always use the grenade riffle to wreck shit quickly and move on.
>>318646893
NMC HD texture pack
The HD weapon texture thing
Project beauty/women of the wasteland
That's about it.
>>318664816
DR. FANTASTIC, I'M ENSEEYARR
>>318664997
Agreed. Game feels shallow, it's just boring.
I got a nice unique melee weapon, and I like it.
But the game is just too shallow for me to enjoy.
It doesn't feel like Fallout, it feels like something else entirely.
And it must be only me, but I feel like the game looks so ugly, especially the textures.
And the vanilla AO is trash.
>>318664000
Been running around blowing shit up. MFC clusters are so fucking satisfying
>>318665251
It took me good 2 moments to realise who are Enseeyarr, the Sunset People
>>318665258
The game is definitely shallow. It doesn't even let me ask any questions about anything. I wanna know what that giant sea lake monster you told me about is. Or what the fuck the Institute is. And I don't care about you Preston, fuck off, I don't wanna help you.
Yeah, I don't like the graphics either.
I know it sounds weird, but I hate the graphics and artstyle in the game. Some of it looks nice, like the terminals. But I still prefer the look of modded New Vegas, not even ENB level, just NMC/RWL.
>>318662223
Why are you out of class so early, edgemaster?
>>318665258
Looks better than what you've been posting.
>>318665667
>NVdevelopment.png
>>318664705
>>318664603
This is amazing.
>>318663342
You can see exactly who they were pandering too with that DLC and it's disgusting.
>>318665667
bethesda getting BTFO
>>318665556
The game is ugly.
>>318665649
Okay.
>>318665861
Filthy Formographers, that's who
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi-JB7yE-b8
>>318665861
>hating lexx
A.T.F. please go.
>"Long books, when read, are usually overpraised, because the reader wishes to convince others and himself that he has not wasted his time.”
-E.M. Forster, Aspects of the Novel
>>318666126
Good thing New Vegas isn't a book, huh
>>318665812
Wait I always though logically that the user put in all information on the Pip-Boy.
Wouldn't that be saying a notepad dulls your brain?
What are some essentialgraphicmods for this game? About to reinstall.
>>318666363
I think he's mentioning how you're mostly mindlessly following your quest marker
>>318643952
Rolling
>>318663342
>"tag-teamed by giant fuckbots" is how Chris Avellone actually described the Big Empty in design meetings and all the other writers thought the description was too damn funny to not get put in the game.
>>318666363
There was an ancient Greek philosopher, the first one, Whatshisname, that said writing would ruin people's memories because they'd no longer have to remember things if they can just write it down
Can someone make a new thread? I don't want it to diiiieeee
Anyone got a weapon mod to recommend for New Vegas, it feels so outdated the way the animation is.
>>318666290
That was quick
>>318666707
That's also partly true.
If I remember, the old testament was incredibly unvaried, because of how the Jews used strict mouth-to-ear methods to remember. It was part of their culture to remember.
>>318643952
rollin
>>318666828
what's the score of NV on steam? 89%
>>318667261
That changes everything.
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/WillOoi/20110918/90233/An_Interview_with_Chris_Avellone__game_designer_writer_and_former_unlucky_schlep__Part_3.php
>WO: Generally, what are the difficulties in balancing seriousness with humour, and what do you think is essential in these cases?
>MCA: Comedy's hard. I wasn't sure how Old World Blues would be received. While it was one of the most fun titles I've had the chance to work on, I thought it might be comedic overload and play too much with the boundaries of the franchise - I was primarily concerned about Fallout lore enthusiasts being upset with the direction.
I wonder if that last sentence even crossed the mind of any writers at Bethesda.
>>318664000
The moment I got this angle I knew I had to take the shot.
>>318666828
Edge magazine gives zero fucks...
>>318667605
I love how Obsidian is honest about the flaws in their games. They even voice them.
While Bethesda just lie and lie.
>>318643952
Rollo