http://pcpartpicker.com/p/G8sxpg
>>318445468
amd dual core and 750ti? i hope you don't plan on playing any recent games
>>318446625
Explain?
>>318447534
you want a quad core and for gpu atleast a 960 or 970
>>318445468
>AMD CPU
bruh
>>318447853
This, don't skimp out especially on the CPU since you need a new motherboard to upgrade that usually
>>318449119
What's wrong with AMD CPU?
>>318452085
GPU company decides to make a CPU. Similarly, this is why Intel GPUs suck balls
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yHDNdC
>>318452085
Complete garbage IPC. You'll be suffering on anything slightly unoptimized and you'll need a good mobo and an aftermarket cooler to OC this garbage, all so you stay way behind a stock i3.
>>318447927
Needs a few small changes, here you go family
>>318445468
Sweet fug, OP.
Here. Integrated graphics until you can afford the 750ti or whatever, innit.
>>318453148
Also, this is about the same price for 10x better.. because rebates aren't for sure.
>>318453148
>>318453250
PPS, that's out of stock apparently. They almost always have deals like that, but that's the cost of shopping right after BF.
OP, this build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GCvFjX is the recommended $400 next-gen crusher.
Your build is still decent, however I would definitely spring for a 270x or 960/770.
The 750ti is still stronger than a PS4 though. I mean, even a card as weak as the 260x still beats the PS4.
>>318453445
>AMD Athlon
A first-series i5 (like $40 on ebay) is a better deal.
>>318452297
>GPU company decides to make a CPU
>>318445468
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gGgmwP
This here is much better than anything on this thread and you'll be able to upgrade that CPU later to an i5 when you have the money.
Don't buy AMD garbage because if you feel like upgrading your CPU (and you WILL, trust me) you'll have to buy another mobo as well. This is gonna provide better performance than the consoles and it's the bare minimum I'd recomend to anyone wanting to build a pc because pc gaming with about the same performance of a console is NOT worth it.
>>318455048
>i3 and 270x
>for $400 *before* paying $60 for rebates that might not come back
>better than an i5 combo deal
No. WTF is he going to do with the i3 and 270x after he upgrades? What if he doesn't live where there's ebay and amazon? It's extra hassle anyway.
>>318453445
The R7 265 is the real rival of 750ti
In my shitholethe 750ti is overpriced as fuck
>>318456104
What i5 combo?
Besides, an i3 is more than enough for gaming, it really holds out very well and isn't much behind an i5 gaming wise because the IPC difference is negligible and for games that actually bother not hammering the first thread you can use hyperthreading.
270x is a solid card, specially for someone on a tight budget. You say it like he's gonna buy it and upgrade right away or something when he's probably gonna keep this for years.
>>318456386
E.g., >>318453148
OP:
As someone with an AMD processor and GPU, get an intel and an nvidia.
>>318455048
So don't get this build?
>Just ordered my first build with an AMD CPU
>mfw this thread
I JUST WANT A SOLID BUILD BY TODAY. PLEASE. I'M PLAYING WOLFENSTEIN AND SHIT ON A DAMN LAPTOP. HELP ME OUT HERE.
>>318456546
Are you insane?
400 dollars for a system with no GPU, a garbage case, an h81 mobo that is more expensive than a b85 one, a 4430 that is 30 bucks more expensive than a newer 4460, a fucking 750w PSU that costs half of a 270x and a goddamn seagate drive? Hell, even that ram is more expensive than it should.
The guy is obviously on a tight budget and you recomend him an overpriced shit that won't even play anything decently because hell' have to go over almost 50% of his target budget. Some top tier advice right there.
If you're telling him to go this way then at least have the decency to not rip him off and tell him to buy this instead http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6cp4cf
One mail-in-rebate and even if it fails he'll only pay 340 dollars for a better build than that garbage.
>>318457282
It depends. Have you listed out the games you actually want to play? Have you considered upcoming games on both a ps4 for example or a pc? That should be your main choice. In any case, if you want to go the pc route, it would be really nice if you could go a bit over your budget, like 500 for example. It would let you get something like an r9 290 or equivalent and an i5, which would turn out a great build.
>>318457447
I use an fx 8350 and a 760 even though I built this pc a few years ago. I don't think it's as big a deal as /v/ makes it out to be but I do intend on upgrading to an i5 and a 970 or 980 when i'm able.
>>318457582
I have about 140 games and I want to actually play The Witcher 3 on PC and Wolfenstein.
Anything wrong with the build you recommended?
>>318457970
No, there's nothing wrong with it, if the rebates go through.
In any case, what's your MAX budget?
Guys...I just want a solid build...please. Come together on this one.
>>318458097
And by the way, /g/ is a better place to get better advice on this. And be patient ffs, you don't want to rush things like this and regret something.
>>318458070
$380. $400 If I'm pushing it. (I don't want to push it. Sakes are going on and I want to take advantage.>>318458070
>>318458175
I was going to rush it and do it myself, but I don't trust myself, so I came to a bunch of strangers in the internet for final say
>>318458347
>>318458482
Then the i3 build I listed is fine, IF you get the mail-in rebates that is the best you can get.
You won't be getting 60 fps on witcher though, so there's that.
>>318457819
>I use an fx 8350 and a 760
sounds a bit like the PC I'm putting together soon
Why do you want to upgrade to an i5 incidentally?
Would I have trouble with what I'm getting?
>>318458706
I don't need ultra. Just pretty good, and playable.
>>318458938
Not really, but I expect the cpu to bottleneck if I were to use something significantly better like a 980 is all.
I don't know for sure but i'll research it whenever i'm able to afford the stuff.
>>318458941
Then you'll be fine.
>>318458706
Wait wait, that build has no graphics card at all. What's up with that? Something in missing here?>>318458706
>>318459098
Scratch that.
>>318458938
>>318459098
I had an fx 8120 and 760 until a few months ago and there is no such thing as saying it will magically bottleneck a certain card in an abstract way. It's a per-game thing.
However, if you want to play anything unoptimized, MMOs, some RTSs, Arma 2 and 3, DayZ and whatnot, it's gonna suck cock. I don't like AMD builds because you have to buy a good mobo and aftermarket cooler to OC them and then there comes a goddamn i3 with stock everything and beats it while using WAY less energy.
I have an i7 3770 I snatched for a really good price. i7s are not meant for gaming, of course, but even then it completely smokes everything I throw at it. Also got a 970 and it's great.
>>318459218
What? The i3 build I recomended you was http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gGgmwP
It has a 270x right there, that is the GPU.
Just remember that you need to make the rebates go through for it to stay at that price.
How do I get the MIR from the sites? Do I have to purchase them and mail them back or what?
>>318447853
>le 900 series
yeah you better get an i7 and 4k 144hz monitor as well. You cant play games on anything but the latest
>>318457582
>Are you insane?
>400 dollars for
..the exact same setup as what you recommend (with the i3), except over by $35 (if getting the same video card, and all without rebates).. and it comes with an i5.
As listed, that's out of stock, and I obviously wasn't trying to be competitive. That's just the picture I have saved.
>>Seagate
is a meme. It's not the 3TB, and if you have some statistics that list problems with 1TB versions, without looking it up, feel free to post it.
Protip: I've sent in MIR, and they didn't come back.
>>318457447
nigga you better have ordered a solid cpu fan to go with it!
>>318459993
>purchase full price, then mail them
Yes.
>>318460319
That prebuilt PC isn't sounding too bad after hearing that. I keep hearing bad shit about MIR's. I mean fucking A.
>>318460192
>/v/ tricked him into getting an i5 so he has to shitpost about i7's
great meme, if you dont own an i7, you dum
OP, We need to talk. I get 1080P 60 fps out of my AMD build. It simply depends on the game you want to play and the resolution you want.
But here's some questions for you?
Do you have a 4K monitor? If you don't, Most high end gaming equipment literally doesn't matter.
Do you do heavy computing or processing? If you don't, The high end processors don't matter and the FX 6XXX or 8XXX will probably do your thing well. If you dislike AMD, The i3 will probably do, with the i5 going ULTRA fancy by letting you save a few FPS doing something WHILE playing your video game.
Do you have a 120 hz monitor/tv with a DVI input? If not, HDMI doesn't do 120 HZ, so you won't get that out of your system, limiting your FPS capabilities.
Finally, are the games you're going to play going to need all of that power? If not, you don't NEED an ultra build. The previously suggested builds should work for you.
Take this, for example. This is an extremely quick budget build I tossed together when my PSU exploded and bricked my old computer. It's on the weaker side of gaming altogether and certainly can't run any major game released this year at 60 fps at anything past 720.
It runs Insurgency at 60 fps at 1080P. It runs Dwarf fortress at 50. It does what I need it to do and nothing more, and I'm not going to upgrade until something comes out that will require more.
Don't overthink this. Don't get more than what you need. You wouldn't order a chicken tender plate with 10 pounds of food on it if you know a side salad is going to fill you up nicely.
And don't let the nasty trolls tell you "OH MAN, THAT BUILD CAN'T RUN 240 FPS ON 4K!" or something stupid like that. At the end of the day, if it does what you need it to do within adequate work and within reason for your budget, it'll be fine.
>>318460541
>/v/ tricked him
Nah im not 11. I dont fall for your shitposting antics. Post your speccy though goyim. Im sure you have all /v/ approved meme parts
>>318460535
don't trust PNY with a MIR
i've had good experience with ASUS, Zotac, Powercolor, and G. Skill though
>>318461017
lets see your build cu ck boy, lets see it and laugh
>>318460704
I play everything from Pillars of Eternity, to The Witcher, to Wolfenstein and so on. I just want them to not stutter and run at 20 to 15 fps. I want them playable and medium is fine for me. I am also a filmmaker, so I edit films. Can anyone do a budget build for that? Under $400?
>>318461193
>claims I fell for /v/ bullshit
>that speccy
you cant make this shit up.
>>318461291
Well, it all depends. The build I'm using cost about 500$ altogether. It has 6x cores that I can move up to 3.7 with ease if I needed them too. I have a 280x. I had a sister card with it, but the PSU failure killed it, hence the 4gb single card.
The build you were sent will probably handle everything you want to play at 720p around 45+ fps easily. If you play around with the motherboard a bit or the psu, you can save up later and replace the gpu with a better gpu. When you do things that outgrow your processor, you can then turn around and flip out the CPU/Mobo for something better.
Your 400$ budget build will probably do everything you want it to do. It won't do it fast, nor will it do it flawlessly, but it will do it.
It's a great starting point, and that's what everyone who wants to get into pc building needs. At the very worst, you have useless parts when you get more money, and at the very least, when you upgrade and something breaks, you have replacement parts to gimp you along.
>>318447853
don't get a fucking 970, tons of games are optimized for 2 GB cards. nothing will EVER be optimized for a stupid 3.5 GB card.
get a proper 4 GB card if you want to play the latest multiplat trash like arkham and fallout, or get a 2 GB card and upgrade it later. don't throw money in the toilet for an extra useless 1.5 GB.
>>318461601
>that speccy
look in the bottom left hand corner. He lifted the image.
>>318461982
Or he doesn't update his speccy.
>>318461940
But all this won't matter if the rebates go through because a $400 build is really a $500 build. Well, fuck a duck. Christ.
>>318460704
The problem with amd is that if you go this router then you're automatically ruled out of matx builds because there is NO am3+ motherboard with good VRMs. AMD matx boards are simply not meant to be overclocked at all. That leaves you with a bulky ATX build when going smaller is all the rage now.
Then you have to buy an aftermarket cooler because the stock cooler is pure garbage, plain and simple. Even if you don't overclock, you need one.
That already leaves it more expensive than an i3 while performing worse. The FX lineup, specially the mobo chipsters, are extremely outdated and even though you do get 60 fps on a lot of titles, there will be always those like the ones I listed and things like Diablo 3 that you will NOT be able to keep 60 fps and you know it. Multithreading doesn't mean shit for the vast majority of games because they hammer the first thread and spread the tiny rest of the remaining load to the rest with uneven fashion, hence why a high IPC rate is much more important than more threads/cores and this is why intel CPUs run laps over AMD's.
As for "getting only what you need", that is simply false. More often than not that is quite the contrary because when you buy a certain cheaper item to save like 20 bucks or so and it doesn't perform as desirable, you WILL regret it, but now those 20 bucks will become 100~200 because you'll have to start over if you want to upgrade and fix your initial mistake. I have never in my entire life seen someone saying "yeah man, I'm getting more performance than I wanted, damn, I regret this", but I see people who didn't spend enough suffering from buyer's remorse pretty much on a 24/7 basis.
>>318462426
router = route*
chipsters = chipsets*
Won't bother reading the rest of my post so forgive whatever error I may have made. I'm sleepy.
>>318462356
Honestly, Just don't worry about it. It's like worrying about if your car has enough horsepower to win the indy 500 when you're probably only gonna take it to publix.
It'll work. It'll go vroom when you push the first pedal. It'll break when you push the second. Hell, if you're fancy, it'll shift when you press the third.
Same in this case. It'll run your games and probably get above 30 FPS easily and respectably and do your rendering at a slower but still manageable pace.
>>318461982
>updating speccy
>>318461980
>tons of games are optimized for 2 GB cards. nothing will EVER be optimized for a stupid 3.5 GB card.
>buy either a 2gb or a 4gb card
You really have no idea at all about what you're talking, don't you? This is the most tech illiterate shit I've seen all week.
>>318460302
Hopefully what I got will be more than enough
Okay, fuck it. I'm just going to wait a week and see if sitting on this helps. I'm getting a PC, just going to see if waiting a week helps.
>>318462426
Well, for one, AMD works if you KNOW you're not going to do that.
Yeah, I won't get high FPS in stuff like Diablo 3, but I know I'm not gonna play it. I play stuff like Insurgency or Dark souls. It'll do for that. If I want to do better, then I'll upgrade.
I DID have an i5 build before, but as I said, PSU failure.The capacitors blew and sprayed acid everywhere, killing the Mobo, RAM, CPU, and one of my 280x's. The build I had was done with what little cash I could spare at the time to get it back up and running at a respectable pace.
If you know what you want, then building a build at a cheaper price is acceptable if you know exactly what you're getting.
Sure, you can always do bigger and better, ANYTHING can be improved, but why build a 500 HP monster hotrod when all it's gonna do is go down the street to pick up produce?
Then again, my design philosophy is different from other people. YMMV.
I'm going for a non kek build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Xp7pCJ
>>318462819
>>318461982
>defending shitposters
considering he hasnt replied to me or the guy he was talking to its a safe bet to say he was full of shit.
Why do you defend these faggots? Do you guys honestly like what /v/ has become?
>>318463423
meant for...
>>318462819
>>318462082
>>318463186
I use a 212 Evo. That's like the cheapest aftermarket cooler I know of and is basically the moist nugget of CPU fans. I run 30C at high loads easy and reliably.
Basically, Anything more than your stock should do the trick.
>>318463419
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Xp7pCJ
What's your display?
>PC newfag
My current motherboard is an LGA1155 socket type. Is it time to upgrade, and what to?
>>318463423
I'm not defending or accusing anyone. I just pointed out that updating speccy is as retarded as humanly possible and that nobody does it. Chill out you turbo autist.
>>318463423
Offering a valid explanation isn't defending shitposters. You should relax a bit.
>>318463736
I'm aiming for the Asus PB278QR
>>318463776
You should only be concerned with your motherboard's socket type if you're upgrading your CPU.
Are you upgrading your CPU?
>>318463796
Okay, no. Are you the anon that suggested that one particular YouTuber had Multiple sclerosis at the same time I did on a thread an hour or two ago?
Because fuck me if you are, that's really goddamn convenient.
>>318463267
>Well, for one, AMD works if you KNOW you're not going to do that.
Can you predict the future and tell what games are gonna come out optimized and which ones are gonna go the batman/fallout way? Also, how is expecting anyone that wants a pc to go through the massive chore of researching about how every single game in existence will run with either this or that cpu instead of just going for the one that's guaranteed to deliver a decent performance in everything? Not a really reasonable thing at all because he won't stop at merely witcher and wolfestein. There's a gigant catalog to choose from filled with unoptimized trash.
>Sure, you can always do bigger and better, ANYTHING can be improved, but why build a 500 HP monster hotrod when all it's gonna do is go down the street to pick up produce?
Yeah, but that is a hard thing to say about others. He'll pick up his very first decent build and, again, it's impossible to tell the future, hence why I tend to avoid advising this things unless the budget doesn't allow for them. In this case there is no dispute because the i3 will be cheaper since it runs perfectly fine on its stock cooler with any mobo you throw at it, while delivering better performance. The amd would only beat it at video rendering, which he cares about, but I don't think it's gonna stay that far behind after all it's just 4 x 6 threads we're talking about here.
>>318464048
>this persecution complex
Take your medicine, jesus christ.
>>318463953
I currently have an i7-3770 that I got about two years ago. Don't know how badly I need to upgrade it.
>>318463919
>Asus PB278QR
It should work. Personally, I'd consider the R9 Fury. It's ten bucks more and you'd get a few more FPS out of it if you can spare the power and space for it.
Gtx 960 and r9 380 should be bought at what price?
>>318464359
You literally don't. It will mow down anything you throw at it for the unforeseeable future, specially since we're finally getting at a stage where more threads are actually helping.
>>318464357
I'm not saying for him to go AMD though. I'm saying I have a weaker processor than his build does and I pull games like his easily.
He was worried it wouldn't do it. I was giving him a frame of reference.
>>318464476
Well, that's good to know. Guess I'll just look into upgrading my R9 270 GPU then. Thanks, anon.
>>318464738
I have a 3770 with a meme card on a mini itx build I made and the thing is delicious.
>>318464626
I see.
>>318463568
I'm good to go then. I splurged a bit for the fan because I live in hot weather.
>>318463568
>I run 30C at high loads easy and reliably
I hope you don't think speccy's values for amd cpus are correct because they aren't.
Your actual temps are much higher than that.
>>318463568
>>318465291
Not saying it's shit or anything btw because it's a great cooler. Just pointing that out.
>>318464840
>meme card
Is this a new meme I'm not aware of?
>>318465458
>new meme
>not knowing that meme card = gtx 970
newfriend pls
>>318465291
That so? I was actually unaware of that. Well, I run a 212 EVO, which is cheap, and my computer hasn't melted after hours of pushing it as far as it can go overclock wise yet so there you go.
>>318465537
I'm considering getting a meme card.
Did they fix the VRAM issue?
>>318465823
It's a hardware flaw, it's not fixable. Never faced any problems with it by the way and I was even playing metal gear at 1440p while maintaining 60 fps.
