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Fallout 1 finally clicked with me and I love it. I've been playing for the last 4 hours.
I made my character a retard in order to have huge strength, but hardly anyone will talk to me. Have I screwed myself over?
>>318427727
>Nobody wants to talk to retards
You know, you might have a point there.
![giphy[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/9mrSoBF.gif "giphy[1].gif")
>>318427727
Yes.
Strength is kinda useless in the long term, because you can get Power Armor, which increases Strength by 4.
>>318427727
Being smart, fast, and good with guns is generally better than being big, thick, and retarded.
>>318427727
You can complete the game with that character, question is - do you want to play that way?
And if you want an optimal stat point distribution,then don't max strength, because power armor gives you a bunch and there was an implant or some augment or something, or maybe that was only in Fallout 2, I don't remember.
>>318428279
>do you want to play that way?
I enjoy it. It's been helpful so far. I just think I might be missing out on a lot of stuff.
>Power armor
>Literally walking tank
>Can't make you stronger than peak human
>If you're already peak human in strength, it literally makes no difference
I'm glad someone finally did Power Armor right, even if it had to be Bethesda.
post death animationspls
Just started playing it for the first time the other day and it's great. Am i ok picking one of the already created characters though, or should i make my own?
Is this site just full of underage or what?
Okay /v/, first time playing fallout, i exited the vault, do i go to the vault 15?
build 5S/8P/7E/4C/8I/9A/6L gifted/good natured
sneak/lockpick and small arms
>>318428854
FO4 PA would have been alright if they didn't give it to you 10 minutes in
>>318428584
Fallout isn't meant to be FULLY enjoyed on the first playthrough. It's similar to other RPGs of the time like Morrowind where you were expected to make more than one character in order to experience everything, because it doesn't make sense having the Mage's Guild Archmage also be the Fighter's Guild Master also be the ultimate thief etc.
So are you missing out on stuff? Yes. But you will be no matter what you do. Just try again later with a different character.
>>318429318
You can finish the game as any of the prebuilts, but you're better off going with 1 Cha, 10 or 9 Agi, taking Gifted and Fast Shot and tagging Guns, Speech and Lockpick
>>318429524
Your build is alright. Go to Vault 15 but stop in at the first town
>>318427841
Well, he could always go post on 4chan
>>318429524
Go to Shady Sands and get the rope.
>>318429770
Say that to my multi guild arch-mage mastero number one stunna of Tamriel el Jeffe blade operator super master skilled thief king and chosen reincarnate sunder wielder warrior god king.
>>318428854
Bethesda does nothing right you fucking shill.
Just starting today on Fallout 2 for the first time.
Going with a high charisma, int and agi slag. Gonna talk, flirt, bribe, coerce and suck dick right up the food chain
>>318430103
Knowing how to get everything thanks to a wiki defeats the purpose anon
>>318429770
>other RPGs of the time
>like morrowind
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>>318430017
okay, is there a easier to holster the gun instead of having to manually put it on the inventory?
>>318429440
You know, fallout came out in a time where computers werent even that popular to own in your household
>>318430157
Make sure you do porn
>>318430327
You can do porn?
They truly don't make em like they used to
>>318430308
Put it in your second action slot and hit the big red button next to the weapon icon to switch to empty hand
>>318427727
>I made my character a retard in order to have huge strength, but hardly anyone will talk to me. Have I screwed myself over?
yes, Fallout 1 is really hard for a retarded character and you lock off a lot of quests/dialogue.
Fallout 2 is more accommodating though, a retard run is more fun in that game.
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>>318430430
Actually NPCs give you a lot of free stuff in FO1 if you're retarded, bit you can't access as many sidequests
>>318429524
Good build desu, although I think sneak is kind of useless to tag.
>>318428854
>>Can't make you stronger than peak human
>>If you're already peak human in strength, it literally makes no difference
I dont get this logic, why would it not make you stronger than peak human?
>>318430592
It raises your STR by 4, but not over 10
Anon forgot that 10 STR is inhuman Supermutie-tier, not 'peak human'
>>318430524
Not gonna check the image cuz I want to enjoy the first time experience
Hell since it's on sale I'll try it out today. Should I play 1 or 2?
I really want to get into FO1 and 2.
I started 2, and I got outside the cave and into the first town.
I really dislike the combat though, it just gets tedious to attack-miss-move-miss-etc.
And I find the game pretty hard in general, how do i get into the flow of it?
Oh, question for you all (F2 guy here), how do you use vats? As in the select each part in attacking.
Its come up a couple of times when I've clicked to attack but I don't know how to manually trigger it?
I also notice the spear says thrust, can you change the attack style?
>>318431115
>Should I play 1 or 2?
Yes.
>>318431115
neither. Just player Fallout 4.
>>318431706
Right-click your weapon. When you see a bullseye in the corner, you're golden.
>>318431706
Right click your weapon to change from things like thrust to throw, single fire to burst fire, and eventually when you see a crosshair in the corner that means aimed shots.
>>318431381
You should do a Guns/Speech/First Aid build for your first run, its sort of the simplest but will get you accustomed to the feel of the game before you can do other stuff. As for the trials, just run away from all the ants, they'll only catch up to you if you have <5 AGI, which you shouldn't do. Also talk to a lot of NPC's, dont skip them.
can i steal shit when there people looking? is there some place for a tutorial of this game?
>>318432147
>>318432280
Cheers lads
>>318432339
Yes and no. It all depends on your steal skill.
>>318432312
Guns/Speech/Lockpicking is good too.
>>318431706
right click on the weapon until small target icon appears on it, this will also cost additional AP, you can't use VATS if you took fast shot trait.
>>318432312
Is there an EZmodo cookie cutter build to break the game?
I'm mostly after lore and good questlines, I could do without slogging trough the combat system.
>>318432339
>tutorial
>in original fallout
Wow stick to your Fallout 3 and 4 newbaby.
>>318427727
You need a minimum of 4 INT for anyone to talk properly to you so basically all sidequests are off limits to you, unless you get some mentats to temporarily get your INT up, then you can get the implant for 1 permanent INT.You get a discount when you're at low INT
>>318430103
And yet at least two of the three great house will tell you to fuck off like the scum you are and you'll never be the great master of the three at once.You can still be the hortator, though
>>318432753
Wow you're so cool.
I wish I was a badass like you.
>>318430307
Morrowind is closer to Fallout 2 than it is from Fallout 3, though.
>>318427727
Uninstall that excrement. Play a good game you contrarian cunt.
>>318432650
ST 6
PE 8
EN 4
CH 2
IN 9
AG 9
LK 9
traits: Gifted, your pick
skills: Small Guns, Lockpick, Speech
That thing ruins the game so hard it's not even funny
Are you allowed to flee random encounters? I had left the vault to move to shady sands on my first character, ran into giant gophers on the road and they fuck me up. I try walking to the edge of the "zone" and leave combat but there's no option to go back to the map, so they just run me down. Before tripping over themselves and breaking a leg but still.
>>318432753
there a difference between being a baby and wanting to know what each button does, i just don't want to ask everything from you guys like how to use VATS
>>318433196
>>318433204
Thanks Brosef
>>318430524
>me ready like freddie
oh man my sides
>>318432753
Hey, if we're being real here, FO1/2 really does make you learn through experience. I mean, it took me days to figure out F1 opened up the screen that tells you the controls. Though I feel like its better this way overall, just kinda grueling though.
>>318433276
It wasn't called VATS back then, it was just a targeting system for a turn-based game. Bethesda made VATS for Fallout 3.
>>318433252
At the end of each side, there's a colored section. If its brown or red, it'll make you leave the whole area, if it's green it'll take you to the next part of the area. At random encounters, just run to the end and step on the colored part, it'll always be brown and will take you back to the overworld map. If you're really bugged by bad encounters, invest in Outdoorsmanship.
>>318433335
No problem. Should be obvious, but small guns are your best friend till endgame. When you get there, either go with the .223 pistol/Red Ryder LE BB gun, or pump energy weapons and grab the Turbo Plasma/Alien Blaster
>>318433832
>.233 pistol
GOAT weapon right there
>>318433594
>be a con artist with high CHA and speech bonuses
>ask woman for access to weapon vault
>"they're restricted to those who need them"
>"Well I need them"
>"I guess you do here you go have fun"
>people upset with the way the Vault is run, want to rebel/escape
>"that's pretty fucking stupid senpai"
>QUEST COMPLETE
I love this shit.
>>318431968
This
Watch a Lets Play of 1 or 2 if you must,they have aged like Milk
>CH went from being the third most useful SPECIAL to the bottom of the barrel worst
How do we fix SPECIAL /v/
>>318434123
>tfw SPECIAL points actually had importance and helped you out at various points in the game
>tfw the quest with Madoc and thefake bodies filled with brahmin guts that you need PER 7 to check
>>318430103
Number one stunna huh?
>>318430818
>tfw in Fallout 4 I have a base Strength of 10,+2 From Power Armor with Military Paint,+1 from Beer,+2 from Buffout.
What the Fuck is 15 Strength in Bench Pressing?
3 Tons?
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>>318430818
>playing the outdated, boring Fallout 1 mere weeks after Fallout 4 releases
embarrassing
>>318434641
Making it once again determine your party size, and also making it give you more speech options, instead of Speech being everything
>>318433594
>Most optimal build disables aiming anyway
>>318435152
disregard brow, acquire Mustache
>>318435152
>Implying Fallout 4 isn't already outdated
>>318435527
It isn't.
>>318435578
Okay Todd, you had your fun, jump back in the pocket
>>318435734
>>318435808
Explain why it's outdated without mentioning graphical fidelity or animations
>>318435496
STANDING
>>318435873
It lacks any roleplaying mechanics whatsoever and has no weight with your choices. The endings are all literally the same and are ME3 tier, and the voiced dialogue sounds so uncaring and wooden. Literally Alpha Protocol did everything FO4 promised, but actually delivered. And its five years old.
>>318436231
>It lacks any roleplaying mechanics whatsoever
Okay, then so does Witcher 3 and no one has any trouble labeling that an RPG
>The endings are all literally the same
the New Vegas endings were just as varied
>>318435873
>Explain why it's outdated without mentioning these things that are objectively outdated.
>>318435152
Says a lot for Fallout 4 huh?
>>318435873
they took all the skills out of a game entirely based around skills
okay last question people, how do i make ian use a stimpak/check his health, he already tanked 5 radscorpions hits(we cleared the cave)
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>>318433953
>not going gauss rifle + sniper perk for maximum carnage.
>>318436404
>the New Vegas endings were just as varied
Are you saying that the FO4 endings are on par with New Vegas?
What are you smoking?
>>318435808
>let me cherry pick a photo of me with a high power magnification scope to a model way off in the distance that has swapped out of the high poly models for lower poly models as pretty much all games today do to conserve resources
literally you
>>318436437
the perk system is exactly the same, it's actually more nuanced if anything. you're just autistic and prefer boring numbers on a screen to personality
>>318436604
no, but the amount of choice is pretty much identical
>>318436674
>the perk system is exactly the same
>weapon modding is tied to your fucking int instead of the repair skill
Bethdrones, folks.
>>318436404
Fallout is a world and setting RPG, as in the player is merely another gear in the overarching story of the world. The Witcher is a specific story told through a game in RPG form.
Apples and oranges.
>>318436838
>>318436849
fuck off
>>318436881
What is supposed to be wrong here, the road is supposed to be fucked up.
>>318435904
ON THE EDGE
>>318430140
Energy weapons.
>old Fallout
Rule #1: Multiple Decisions. We will always allow for multiple solutions to any obstacle.
Rule #2: No Useless Skills. The skills we allow you to take will have meaning in the game.
Rule #3: Dark humor was good. Slap-stick was not.
Rule #4: Let the player play how he wants to play.
Rule #5: Your actions have repercussions.
>new fallout
You can customize your power armor!
>>318427727
If you know what you're doing. No you're fine.
If you don't? Yeah you're fucked. I can tell you alone in the first 5 minutes of the game you miss out on like 5k free exp and a shotgun for having intelligence less than 4.
Also you can't get Ian. Also the majority of quests you can't do because you can't into speaking.
>>318437002
Not him but the texture and clipping are lol. It looks like he has the game on low settings because of the fog.I've never played the game this is all speculation before you shit yourself
>>318437228
B) Hate old Fallout
>>318432753
im going to take a wild guess and say the tutorials for these games were in the fuck huge instruction books that came with every game made before 2000.
>>318430049
I chuckled
>>318437228
*tips fedora*
>>318436802
You do end up picking from the NCR, Legion, House, and Yes Man but acting like siding with any of the main factions is the extent of influence you have in NV is just disingenuous. Meanwhile it's literally all you can do in 4, and none of the side stuff you do has any fucking bearing on the main story whatsoever.
>>318437412
epic meme'd good sir
upvote 4 u
>>318437228
>Slap-stick was not
>Fallout 2 is more jam packed with memes than Borderlands
>>318427727
Use mentats to become unretarded for a few hours.
If you go to the brotherhood and do a quest for them you can get an operation to become unretarded permanently.
>>318427727
IN 4 is bare minimum for normal play. With less, most people won't talk to you because, well, you can hardly use words yourself.
Retard run is more fun with Fallout 2, since several quests are redesigned for retarded characters,
>>318428854
5 is average, 10 is inhuman.
with 8 you can fire minigun off hand.
>>318436404
>Just as varied
Compare this page : http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4_endings
To this page : http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_New_Vegas_endings
>>318437549
Hadn't considered that, thanks.
>>318437653
the extra slides at the end of the game don't count
Reminder: every copy of fallout 3, 4 and NV helps Zenimax's bottom line.
Same with every steam copy of Fallout1 and 2.
This is a good a thread as any. What's going on with the rest of the world in the fallout universe? Namely the Mediterranean. I thought maybe they just forgot to fill in the blue, but the read sea shows as land as well. Is there any mention of this in the lore? I've done some skimming over and I came up with nothing.
>>318437751
And why don't they?
It's better than the fucking nothing you get in FO4.
>>318437874
because no one cares f*am, two lines of dialogue regarding a settlement or two isn't important
>>318437926
see >>318437412
>>318437971
Have you even played New Vegas?
That's not what it is at all.
Go back to skyrim, blind bethdrone pleb.
>>318427727
>but hardly anyone will talk to me. Have I screwed myself over?
Uh huh
>>318437868
Who knows, probably someone just made map but the context wont be explained anywhere in the game.
Try tweeting peter hines about it.
I just couldn't get past the UI
It isn't as cryptic as Dworf Fortress but I just feel like I"m fighting it all the time in Fallout 1
>>318437868
The old cannon states that Europe is no more. The resource wars with the Middle East fucked them up hard and destroyed the European Commonwealth and after that it fell into pure chaos. But that means fuckall with bethesda they see canon as they want it in the moment.
>>318438085
ok then what is it bitch
>>318427727
no anon, you'll do just fine
>>318437793
>10 days holiday and no sick leave
How?
Submachine Gun with burst is so good.
I played Fallout 1 recently and I was really unimpressed. There's few quests, areas are small and few, the world is dull and repetitive and it simply isn't very fun. What's the obsession? I can't help but think it's mainly nostalgia.
>>318438181
There's detailed information about characters and settlements you've encountered and the decided the fate of, what happened to them afterwords, some where more fleshed out than others, but most of them were pretty detailed. but it was still way more satisfying than the piece of shit ending that 4 had.
You sound like a 14 year old, you should probably get back to /b/ with the other kiddes.
>>318427727
fallout 1 was fun
but fallot 2 is the same shit, don't play one after other
>>318438542
>There's detailed information
ok, so a few lines of dialogue
>>318438531
>>318437575
Fallout 3 and 4 have double the amount of pop culture references than 1, 2 and NV had
>>318438389
How can that walking stick possibly help him. He can't have the upper body strength to actually use it to lean on. Is it just there for moral support?
>>318438267
I really need to do a retard run. I've played through multiple times and never tried it.
>>318437868
MEDITERRANEAN DRAINED CONFIRMED.
MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE IS RIGHT
GET READY FOR NAZI DLC
>>318438531
NV is even worse, but people love it somehow.
I think there is some special kind of people out there that love boring things.
meanwhile I am having a blast on FO2
>>318438389
Where did his dick go? From the fold of his pants it looks like his gut goes to his knees.
>>318439739
The drained sea implication seems the most probable to me. It's a big fucking thing to just add and never mention, though.
>>318440183
This special kind of people you refer to have the ever alluring intelligence you hear about.
>>318437868
>Canada
Did they forget it was annexed?
>>318437793
now I know why most software devs scoff at working for video game companies. treating developers like peons is a great way to avoid stagnation and derivative bug filled games. It really shows what kind of games bethesda makes.
>FO1 first playthrough
>small guns, speech, lockpick
>nearing the end of the game, small guns just aren't as good as they were
>start skilling energy weapons from about 20%
>get it up to 130ish
>choose TAG! perk
>tag energy weapons
>tagging the skill is retroactive
>suddenly I have fucking 330% in energy weapons
>already had the alien pistol and turbo plasma rifle
>95% chance to hit on eyes on literally every enemy all the way out to the absolute maximum range of the alien pistol
>AND THE TURBO PLASMA RIFLE
I fucking love that game but I don't see how I can possibly beat it harder than i did without rushing the super mutant base at level 1 like a speedrunner.
>>318438531
Can someone explain the appeal to me? I'm not trolling, I genuinely don't understand the hype. I loved F:NV in comparison.
http://strawpoll.me/6144055
>>318438389
a real human BEAN.
>>318438531
>i cant enjoy a game in its own context
or
>muh bait
fixed fr u m8
omg wtf baka desu doe senpai
>>318441938
i swear to fuck i typed
Omg wtf baka desu doe senpai
Is it fixing nigger to weeb now ?
Lmfao
S M H T B H F A M now translates to baka desu senpai
>>318433204
i would drop lockpick for gambling because you can just spam lock pick till it opens...sure you can save scum gambling but you save a lot of time.
>>318438531
Fallout 1 is pretty short.
People enjoy all the different ways you can play it.
From a smooth talker who never kills another living thing to a dumb brute who can't do much but smash any problem he comes across.
They also like how almost everything you do effects to world.
Those were the principles they used when they made that game, and it made a game that few others did or have done since.
I played it in 2013 and loved the shit out of it.
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>>318442357
Have you been in a coma?
baka desu senpai
>Fallout 2
>Modoc random encounter
>some ghoul crazies
>8 ghous with high powered guns
>you start close to them even with high PE
What the FUCK were they thinking with the random encounters in this game?
Mutated wildlife is mostly easy but anything that's 4+ enemies with guns is a total pain
>>318438692
Yes, a few meaningful lines of dialogue that reflect on your decisions.
Fallout 4 can't even do that much, says a lot about it. Even Witcher 3 did it better.
>>318444459
It's because PE affecting your placement during random encounters is bugged, it doesn't work.
Started up 2 with 5/8/2/5/9/10/8
How'd I do, fellow munchkins?
>"There's some spooky shit in the farm up north, the savages killed the farmer and have bodies impaled on poles"
>Get there and the leader tells me it's all fake, the bodies aren't real and the farmer fled
>Go back and Jo tells me to check out if the bodies are in fact fake and find the farmer and if something is off, they'll attack
>The bodies are indeed fake and I found the farmer drunk in The Den
>Go back to Modoc to tell them about the good news
>"Oh, it's you again. Yeah we killed them all anyway"
Fuck you, this shit is not cool
Is it just me or is Fallout 1 boring as fuck?
>exit the vault
>do odd jobs in Shady Sands, move on to Junk Town
>do odd jobs there, move on to the Hub
>kill a deathclaw
>go to the Necropolis because word is a water chip is in the area
>"Repair de pump, 'uman, and maybe we 'tink about givin' our chip"
>can't repair it
does this game even get fun
>>318444459
Fallout 2 random encounters are horrendously difficult. Even when you're rocking Advanced Power armor and top tier weapons, you'll get raped by a horde of superpowered Deathclaws.
Get yourself the Highwayman, and put some points into Outdoorsman whenever it's convenient. It's the best you can possibly do.
>>318435152
Is the new "/v/ suddenly loves halo" meme?
>>318447418
They give you a time limit m8, you have to find the drunkard in (I think) 30 days or something, to prove he isn't dead.
I think 30 days is just enough time to get from Modoc to the Den and back again.
The whole time limit thing of the first Fallout game always put me off, i downloaded it again after playing like 50 hours of Fallout 4 and coming to the conclusion that's it'spainfully mediocre
I've downloaded the GOG 1.2 version and installed the Fixt patch, supposedly it's been patched but i still see the "x days remaining" when i open my pip-boy, is that just for show ?
>>318440940
That's how it went for me as well. The sound of super mutants melting from plasma rifle shots is permanently ingrained in my mind, I heard it so fucking often
>>318447545
Nope. It's all nostalgia. When you find out how to gank people in combat the fun will all disappear and you'll literally just use the same shit every time.
>>318450690
That's the initial water chip time limit, which still exists and results in a game over when ignored. Don't worry, it's really quite generous and after you've done it, you have all the time in the world to dick around
>>318450967
Thanks, anon
>>318441209
Don't ecpect a 20 year old game to have modern levels of content. Just strap in and enjoy the ride
this game gave me a headache! the shit inventory, the shit gunplay, having to play with a time limit (I have 32 days left and I dunno where the chip is wtf!) and getting owned by every npc in the game
whats the appeal??
>>318450690
No? You lose when you run out of time.
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