>blah blah companies should appeal more to girls by making more candy crush game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i08CVkBxvBM
>>318416094
b-but they're still videogames
>GAMES ARE GAMES
They're not though.
you can't try to pull off the "ironic look" if you're fat
that's just being ironic
>>318417662
>ironic look
Holy shit fuck off
>>318416094
So, advertisements are what prevent women from playing games.
Libfags have the worst fucking hairstyles, holy shit.
Well. If there is a market, then why not?
>2017
>candy crush and zuma as hacking mini-games in Mass Effect:Andromeda
>>318416094
>games are games
just give us another video game crash
Every "problem" modern women face is giving a shit about what others think. Just stop caring and enjoy whatever you like.
>>318416094
Twink's got a point. Games are games. Just like those piss easy NES games.
>>318418339
This. This was the twinks argument in a nutshell.
When they port Candy Crush Saga to the PS4, Xbone, and Wii U, then I'll eat my own shoe. And even then, no girl's gonna buy a 200-300 dollar console for a mindless toilet game.
If CCS is their bar, then they need to raise that shit. It's Freemium garbage.
>>318416094
I don't get this argument, there ARE console games targetted at women, do you think it's 'hardcore gamer boys' buying 'Just Dance'. Not EVERY game has to target women as well as men.
Different movies come out tailored for the different genders, the market for 'Twilight' and '50 Shades of Grey' doesn't overlap with the market for 'The Expendables' and 'Die Hard'. Why don't people get this?
>>318416094
>millions of woman
>wanting to play vidya games
>prevented by ads
Is this hipster doofus for real?
This guy is saying literally nothing wrong beyond the melodramatic bullshit after the 3:30 mark.
Everyone here knows damn well women like shitty candy crush games en masse which is why so many statistics have managed to come around saying that women make 50% or more of all gamers.
>but they're going to ruin my hobby
No dipshit, you're ruining your hobby because you're actively refusing to allow other markets exist. Do you think teenage girls who went crazy over Bieber or one direction had any impact over what the people who enjoyed death grips or MF doom got? No because they're completely different markets within music, in the same way casuals that play clash of clans has no bearing whatsoever on Disgaea 5. The sooner people deal with the fact that women like their shitty iphone games is the faster we get less fake drama over how women are hardcore nerds because they like iphone games because they'll have their own separate clique to jerk each other off in.
Do women not have the trait to literally not give a shit?
>>318419023
>calls the guy a twink
>guy in video is an obese hairy dude
Lolwut?
>>318419336
Those millions of gamers ARE playing games, they are playing Candy Crush-like mobile game.
These people get mad if you point out it's not a 'real game', but they are also mad that 'real games' are not being tailored to women. It makes no sense. If mobile games are 'real games' then women are already playing them so what are you whining about.
>>318419251
>Why don't people get this?
because they have an agenda to shill.
reality destroys that. and people are too lazy and apathetic to think for themselves and instead parrot what they've heard.
>>318419612
You realize we're not the ones manufacturing the fake drama and no one cares that much that women enjoy mobile games. What's irritating is the nonsense pushed that the media the Candy Crush popularity should somehow dictate the direction of Call of Duty or something despite those two demographics being mutually exclusive of one another.
>>318417662
the fuck is an ironic look
>>318417662
>the "ironic look"
You mean this faggot ass smiling and nodding?
>>318419982
It's /fa/shion thing. You wouldn't understand.
>>318416094
If you watch ads on TV for AAA games, of course you're not going to want to play it if you're a girl. However, all those "gamers" that play that shit are a completely different breed.
>>318419969
This. No one really cares, but then all these people that watch the markets come out and say console and PC games are dead and that mobile is the future for everyone. People that play games are generally retarded and as such freak out and the literally nothing issue is now a big flame war of HURR DURR MUH GAMES > YOUR GAMES
PS4 should target more women the moment candy crush starts targeting men. People have different tastes and instead of enjoying whatever you like let's pester and harass people into changing things we don't like. Besides, last time I checked no one will refuse to sell you a game based on gender, but don't expect a game to change it's core mechanics in order to appease someone who probably isn't interested in that type of game at all. There's nothing stopping a woman from playing CoD/GTA nor is there anything stopping a man from playing Sims and puzzle/adventure games.
>>318419969
>You realize we're not the ones manufacturing the fake drama
and?
> no one cares that much that women enjoy mobile games.
Which is why these threads get hundreds of posts every time they're posted, which has been happening for months now.
>What's irritating is the nonsense pushed that the media
This shit happens literally all the time in all media, do you never read the news?
The media is baiting this entire discussion because of people like the retards ITT who is going to give it publicity.
>why people think video games are just for boys
A lot of people think video games are just for kids. Nobody thinks Animal Crossing or Just Dance are just for boys. People think games in genres like shooters or hardcore RPG's are just for boys because 90% of the people who buy and play them are male, that's what demographics are about. None of these liberal cocksuckers ever talk about demographics, they all like to pretend that video games are just one big pile of homogeneous products that are only marketed to men, and we all know that's fucking bullshit. Every single one of these critics and their cronies do the same thing: they look at the games made for and purchased primarily by men and they wonder why those games are catering to men and demand they be made for women instead; they do this every single time. It's the classic feminist tactic of "we don't care about something unless it's positive and primarily for men, then we have to either ruin it or take it for ourselves even if we don't really care about it just to spite men and get another victory". Do women as a whole (not just a very small percentage) want bloody shooting games and 150+ hour roleplaying games? We all know they don't, but feminists will do anything to shit all over those because men like them, that's the only reason.
>>318419650
Yes, but beta faggots like the guy in the OP want to convince you otherwise.
He's not wrong.
>>318420826
He's adressing a non-issue
Well, why the fuck are they playing Candy Crush and not King's Quest?
>>318420107
then go back there /fa/ggot
>>318416094
I get bashed on for playing a female character in an rpg by guys, but girls don't mind if I'm playing a female or male. Girls don't mind if I play a tumblr game or a shooter.
Girls are superior.
>>318420967
>You can only discuss issues
???
>>318421052
Girls don't care about anything they don't want to have sex with.
>>318420967
What's a non-issue? Marketing games almost entirely towards young boys has hamstrung the industry in general as he said.
Nobody says "Oh, well movies are just for boys!".
That's definitely an issue.
>>318420826
He is wrong.
>But that's only counting stupid facebook games
>So?
Women aren't going to spend 300+ bucks on a console or more on a gaming rig when they can play them on either facebook through a browser or a phone they already have and the kind of games boys play don't really work on phones or browsers.
>>318421052
Girls have shit taste, thanks for confirming
At least he had the good sense to point out that female developers exist in large amounts.
>PS4
>Xbox One
>refusing to serve an untapped market
What untapped market? Here's why phone games are successful:
1) They're on fucking phones, the things every woman has and uses all fucking day
2) They require no effort or time to get into and usually no money
3) They don't require a $400+ console and $60 games
That's why "phone games" aren't "just games" you stupid libfag. He's honestly advocating for there to be more shitty casual bejeweled clones on consoles so women will play their boyfriend's xbox more often instead of playing the exact same kind of game on their phones (this is the best-case scenario). HOW PROGRESSIVE!
>>318421147
Reminder that these no cost phone games makes more money than the PC market.
Have the skeletons infested the DOOM modding community yet?
>>318421121
Somebody got keked.
>>318421139
That's because men are the ones who buy the only games you should care about anyway.
If we start catering to women, we get shitty phone games, which are fucking horrendous
>>318416094
>posting bad youtube shit
Fuck off and die fagtron
>>318421262
They're putting money directly into the games over time not really realising how much they are spending.
It's like spending thousands to play a game in an arcade when you could have baught it.
>>318421262
That's not a good thing
>>318416094
The fact that this is considered a problem is an indicator that there are no problems and everything is A-OK.
>>318421139
marketing non-casual games to women has been tried repeatedly throughout the decades and it has always failed miserably. Women are, by and large, just not interested.
>>318421420
close
Google Anita Sarkesian and Doom
>>318419694
Cultural difference, you anorexic yuropoors wouldn't understand.
Isnt there enough candy crash game around already?
Jesus Christ that shits been more rehashed than any other game at this point.
More often than RE4 and Rayman 2.
>>318421498
>>318421525
All I'm saying is that this idea that women wouldn't spend money is rubbish and that console companies don't care about it when it's a potential market worth tens of billions is complete bull.
>>318416094
How is he wrong?
>>318421262
No, A SINGLE no cost phone game makes more money than the PC market
Devs are finally realizing that there's no real market to grow there, and that the games that are huge are massive flukes
>>318421425
>That's because men are the ones who buy the only games
Because marketing and games were only catered directly to young boys in the past. The marketing happened before the sales. Also, more women are playing games now than ever in the past 30 years because of shifts in the marketing, attitudes, and content of games.
It's not rocket science.
Quote from the comments, going to paraphrase and spellcheck:
>that study that says girls play games more than boys also says they only play for less than an hour a week and they play casino games, while boys play on average 3 to 4 days(?) a week. The market still says for the most part women don't find gaming appealing and companies would lose money trying to advertise towards new women because the hardcore women gamers out there don't need to be drawn in to gaming, they're already here. I know tons of hardcore gamers that are women that didn't get in because of ads but because of quality games
tl;dr any woman who wants to buy a console already has. You can't expect Sony or Microsoft to magically turn a profit by "appealing to a demographic" that's already satisfied by what they have, i.e. phone games.
>>318421139
Its not though
>>318421119
You can discuss non-issues, but that means you're a total faggot that doesnt have anything better to do than to complain about meaningless shit.
>>318420424
>Which is why these threads get hundreds of posts every time they're posted
If you'll notice, the threads that get replies are not
>"girls play mobile games, thoughts?"
but rather
>"GIRL GAMERS, SJW PANDERING, FEM WAVE INCOMING, U MAD /v/????"
which is very different. No one gives a fuck if girls play games on their phone constantly, anyone who's ever been outside knows that already happens. It's when ignorant fucks begin making statistics about it, talk about how video games are unwelcoming to women, or when devs try to get more women to play games (ie ruin them) even though they clearly only play dumb fucking Casual Crush.
>>318416094
>acktually.jpg
Pacman was made by Namco and Ms Pacman was made by Midway. Right off the bat he's wrong
>>318421119
If it's a non-issue, why does it need to be fixed?
>>318422019
>MUH FEMINISM
Need you ask more?
>>318416094
lol'd hard
I never got the argument to inlcude facebook games
If he says "So what, games are games" and over 50% of player are women, doesn't that mean the market is open for women?
If he wants to include those games in the statistics then he also has to include them in the overall game market
>>318422019
>wheredoyouthinkyouare.avi
>>318421785
Yes, more women are playing games now, but they're still a minority.
And why shouldn't they market games to boys/men anyway? It's like asking toy companies to make toy-guns for girls, men are just by default attracted to action games, shooters, and most of the genres that make up of like 95% of games posted on /v/
>>318421593
Everyone starts out with "casual" games. I started out with Lego Island. It's not a thing that happens overnight. Candy Crush turns into Hearthstone, Hearthstone turns into Skyrim and Skyrim turns into Dark Souls.
It's happened with my wife. There's no reason to think women don't like video games on a fundamental level.
That's just cynical nonsense.
What is the point of this episode? Why would marketing change what they're currently doing if it works so well?
>porsche should swap to making wagons and minivans since more car owners are parents
Adam is retarded.
>>318422293
>There's no reason to think women don't like video games on a fundamental level.
What is sexual dimorphism?Or are you one of those people who believe sexual dimorphism doesn't exist in male and female brains?
This really isn't a problem with how video games are made. It's a problem with gender roles.
Next.
>>318416094
So fucking tired of this.
>If they play mobile games, then they must WANT to play console games too
HOW ARE PEOPLE DUMB ENOUGH TO THINK THIS?
>>318422579
>What is sexual dimorphism?
A term you found on Wikipedia and threw into a discussion in an attempt to act knowledgeable.
>That's just counting stupid phone games.
The kid was fucking right. Fuck off adam you cunt.
>>318422293
>Candy Crush turns into Hearthstone, Hearthstone turns into Skyrim and Skyrim turns into Dark Souls.
Or you can just treat them like adults to begin with. The first video game my niece, who was 10 at the time, beat was King's Field 1.
If companies already thought they could make more money off girls they already would have.
It's like they don't understand how much market research and actual marketing these companies do to maximize profits.
>>318422696
But the guy is right? Don't try to avoid his question like that, he's anonymous so you can't really tell if he's an academic, an 18 year old NEET orme
>>318418891
this desu
>>318416094
i tried watching that thinking it was for someone my age
it wasnt
it's a message aimed at children to teens maybe even young adults
that aside if im playing against a shit player i wont have fun and if im playing against a superior player i wont have fun but i will try to win or just quit point being if youre not playing to compete or for entertainment then youre playing for the wrong reasons that is all
Any fucking research could tell you that a majority of core gamers are men because men like core games
Most girls play casual games like Candy Crush because that's what girls like
>>318422696
>he doesn't know about sexual dimorphism.
This is basically right and subdividing everything is of finite value because so many things are mis-marketed or appeal to unknown aspects of individual people.
Still, eyeball hours and money spent are very important as well.
>>318416094
>games are games
And ALL books are books
>>318422239
Good fucking point
Vidya should be made more acceptable for men amirite
>>318421705
>tfw actually American
In no way is that considered a twink. Furthermore, are you a faggot? I genuinely ask that question because only faggots use the word twink. And if you are a faggot you'd know that's clearly a cub and not a twink.I would know, Im a faggot, you faggot.
I am mostly just annoyed that the puzzle genre got corrupted into this garbage.
why does the video watch like an elementary school tutorial on brushing your teeth?
fucking faggot i swear.
>advertising prevented women from playing games
>>318423321
NIntendo is already at it
So progressive
>>318423584
Too late now.
>>318423584
>yfw no more good Puzzle Fighter
Females were never excluded from video games, this is a non-issue. The only thing keeping people from playing video games is females telling other females that it's not socially acceptable, and even then its weak peer pressure and no one knows what you do when you're alone at home. So even that isn't an excuse. Casual games don't hurt gaming, and no one is stopping a viable product from taking advantage of niche markets and demographics. The only people that ever suggest this don't even play video games and have political agendas. The market caters to the purchasing habits of the consumer. If you think an underserved market for female gamers existed, you would logically exploit it to profit yourself.
>>318423673
It's quite funny you mention it, the appeal of these videos are the fact that they're easily digestible/ascessable by morons, same as the mobile women games
>>318422239
This guy gets it, they act like their mobile games are 'good enough' when people look down on them, but when they're complaining about no games for women and someone points to mobile games, suddenly they're NOT good enough.
>>318423931
I hate to say it but sometimes capitalism, it just works.
>>318422779
No kidding, these idiots act like companies are just as politically and socially driven as them and not entities that exist solely to make money. If women were an untapped lucrative market that would bolster sales twofold, I'm sure someone would have noticed.
>>318424387
Sexist pig
>>318424387
Didn't a bunch of companies that used to make real games swap to phone games a few years ago because they realised the potential though?
>>318416094
This video was annoying and pretentious sure, but am I the only one here who is just surprised to see what happened to college humor? They used to actually be funny and practical, now they just preach the "LOL nerd" attitude and Tumblr "culture" and churn it out in video form.
Shame really
Collegehumor hasn't been good since 2008.
Let us also for a second look into what the most popular AAA games are and their genre counterparts in other media
>Call of Duty
any war movie, Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers
mostly male viewers
>Grand Theft Auto
Crime drama, How many women are into Godfather, the Wire, Scarface?
>Fallout/Skyrim
Women play Skyrim but Fallout not so much. It took a viral feminist blog sensation for Max Max to make big numbers this summer.
What women indulge in?
Main joke is Romantic Comedies but women also are into musicals and other unisex dramas. Women can get into fantasy shit, horror and to some extent cape shit.
The main fantasy games are Skyrim and Dragon age but the industry can use a more lighthearted kids friendly fantasy game to get women into it. Something more like Harry Potter.
Horror
Shit like Amnesia, Slender Man, Five Nights at Freddys was a hit among women. Granted these do not follow the survival aspect of classical Horror games they are a subset of the genre that has a huge market
>Cape shit
rate of successful capeshit games is too low
Overall its just dumb to ask why games like Call of Duty, Doom, Fallout, GTA when their respective genres in other media is just not popular with women. If you are a publisher willing to exploit an untapped market go ahead. Just understand somethings are proven to not work.
>>318423931
>no one knows what you do when you're alone at home
this. i knew a closeted gamer, she is one of the few friends i still talk to from early childhood.
she was drop dead gorgeous, 10/10 blonde from the south.
now she is a mom and plays WoW and reads the WoW books, like, obsessed status. i leveled to 100 with her and will most likely play Legion with her.
>>318416094
he's not too wrong, but he fails to aknowlege that nowdays publishers don't really cattter just to men, but also to women. It's just people who complain too much the ones who complain they are not being cattered to when a game is not dedicater to their demographic.
>games are art
when will this meme end?
>>318425104
Is this really collegehumor? It says trutv.
>>318416094
I would like to know, what do the girls of /v/ think about what he said?
>>318425160
You know what to do
>>318425104
>>318425119
Adam Conover isn't part of CollegeHumor anymore. He got his own TV show, and that's what this is. And to be honest, the episodes so far have been pretty good.
>>318425274
Same company, and for some reason or another I still follow them on facebook and I saw it there originally. And I swear I've seen that pretentious fat hipster in other CH videos
>>318425223
>he's not too wrong
I disagree, I think that he is entirely wrong, for the exact reasons you have just stated.
>>318421050
i keked
>>318425104
I thought they make fun of Tumblr.
https://youtu.be/BMUl6w1efXI
>More women are involved in sports then men
>Oh that is just counting stupid yoga/aerobic classes
>So what they're still sports
See how easy that is? Lets count something that is a physical activity with 1% the mechanical depth/time commitment to even the most casual AAA games. Wow i guess more sports should focus on female leagues right?
>>318416094
What in the heck is this clown shit.
>>318423931
>Koizumi designs Ocarina of Time's Link to be handsome and pretty because his wife suggested it would appeal to women
>Zelda is now one of the most storied video game series with significant if not majority-female population
>to say nothing of other Nintendo franchises like Animal Crossing
It's really a kind of convergent evolution scenario in the sense that many shounen manga in the 90s went from buff bodybuilder Superman/Kenshiro types to more slender, shoujo-expat looking guys like Rurouni Kenshin around the same time as Zelda's flirtation with a physically attractive Link.
So really, trying to draw women in isn't a bad idea and it can pay off wonders as Japan has proven. I think they're just going about it in the wrong way.
The biggest obstacle really is that they didn't try this earlier and not when women would rather play free games on a smartphone or tablet they already own rather than a $200-400 investment on a device plus games, which the 20% of the conventional gaming audience that is female is already a part of and needs no courting.
>>318425274
The show is aired on trutv but most of the actors (and probably writers) are from CollegeHumor.
>>318425412
I actually agree with you, the show is actually pretty good, but Conover is definitely still CollegeHumor. Clips of the show are put on his channel.
Not to mention Adam Ruins Everything started as a series of clips originally made by CH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_vivC7c_1k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5kWu1ifBGU
>>318416094
>videogames are boys only club
I feel like the people complaining about this alleged mentality are the same people who think "there are no girls on the internet" is still a thing.
>>318416094
>Adam keks everything
This reminds me of George Miller including strong female protagonist who dont need no men in Mad Max Fury Road in an attempt to appeal to girls.
But girls still dont give a shit about action films, they rather watch musicals like Pitch Perfect 2 instead
>>318425794
>there are no girls on the internet
Isn't there only like 10% women on places like 4chan?
Alexa claims that men are underrepresented on 4chan, but I seriously doubt this, considering the content that gets posted.
I had always assumed that most women use shit like facebook
>>318425946
That's because the movie was still very boyish, outside of the story focus on Furiosa. Hell, they even made the ''Breeders'' sound like a bunch of stupid morons, spouting pseudo-religious shit.
>>318419612
It's just that men bitching FOR woman about things that hardly used to concern them in any real way until this decade, obviously have an ulterior motive.
>>318426203
>implying 90% of 4chan users aren't lesbians
>>318426542
B-but this isn't /a/ or /u/
>>318416094
>this just in: selective marketing is a thing that exists!
>>318426685
Only if you're a sexist bigot.
>>318425545
Is there a reason this is the second time I've seen this pic?
Why? aren't they like 50% of the gamer base? that's the story you here thrown aroun by SJWs all the time.
>>318426765
So if I like Barbie games or other games targeted to women, like Cooking Mama 5 because it's fun, should I be outraged??????????????
>>318426203
Alexa data must be full of shit.
How can they legitimately tell these things?
>>318426824
Id say atleast half of those statistics are moms buying games and consoles for their kids and atleast a third is for people who play candy crush-like games.
>>318416094
But that's wrong.
>>318426765
But selective marketing isn't limited to sexes.
It extends to races, religions, political belief, sexuality, if it didn't exist the world would be boring as fuck.
Different people have different interests, including sexes. If everything was made and marketed for everybody everywhere the world would be a significantly more boring place.
Art requires selective marketing in order to exist, without it all art forms would blend together into pure sameyness.
Jesus I just want to crush through this motherfuckers entire head with my fist. Every time I see that fucking face when I'm lurking, I get this mental image of my entire goddamn fist moving in slow motion, just fucking destroying his entire skull.
>>318427634
3edgy5me
>>318427754
Then I guess you better go have your naptime, kid
>>318423759
What's the point of Shuffle when Trozei exists? They even came out the same year, and I am fairly sure you can get all 720 Pokemon in Battle Trozei.
>>318425663
I agree, I've been enjoying the show.
>>318425341
>girls
>/v/
>>318428458
>le /v/ is no girls allowed sekrit club meme
Stop it.
>>318428458
Do you have more animegirls with questionmarks?
I need them for my collection
>>318426824
That's because casual gaming. For "core" AAA gamers it's 70%-90% male depending on the game. It's been like that for a long time, and will not budge. For extremely competitive genres like MOBAs it's upards of 90%.
For genres like warsims I imagine it's 100% male or very damned close.
If I can complain about retarded men ruining the market by buying the same fucking shitty FPSs and MOBAs, I can also complain about retarded women ruining the market with shitty phone games, Kim Kardashians, and feminism. Both things are true.
>>318428658
>being a white knight
>any year
>caring about identity on an anonymous board
>>318428658
Girls are allowed but I think they all went to /vp/ to fart on each other or whatever girls do.
>>318416094
Logically speaking it seems like a sound argument but really doesn't hold water because
A) Even before the crash arcades and game culture was still slanted. Yeah some games where unisex and there where defiantly females in those arcades but most programmers and big name champions where dudes. Also most of the art and mood arcades had was pretty male focused. Just look the art on cabinets like centipede, gauntlet, dragons lair, or galaga. Shit looks like its belongs in a comic book or a metal album.
B) Dude bro commercials have been pretty much dead for a while now. Notice his montage of game commercials. His montage of commercials the only adds that are remotely new are the xbox YO add (that got panned by gamers) and a mobile game. The worse offenders where adds that are literally a decade or more older, and hell they even had an add from OoT that's pretty much on the most popular games for females.
C) If mobile games on consoles would of been profitable they would of done it by now. This isn't 1994 and running the data on this stuff isn't hard. There isn't some sort of universal boy club at all the offices of the major gaming corporations that sit around saying "god we could get so much money from these mobile gamers but their females and I DON'T WANT COOTIES". The fact of the matter is mobile games are tied to item that is considered nearly necessary to operate in modern society. The cell phone is impossible to compete with because it does so much more utility wise than any game console. You can't just replicate phone games and get phone game success. The entire platform is so different that emulating it is a fools game.
>>318416094
welp, that's a punchable face if I've ever seen one
He neglects the fact that millions of adult women are lazy and shit and teenage boys go to school while generally adult males work.
It's easy to sit on your ass and play phone games all day when you're being a welfare queen.
>>318429871
his entire head needs to be hit with a sledgehammer tbfp
or he could try looking like a fucking adult whichever
>>318429473
>not being a white knight
>ever
>>318421139
>anyone at all being surprised video games are marketed towards men when men are the ones buying the shit
Wow, stop the fucking presses.
>>318429734
>Even before the crash arcades and game culture was still slanted.
This. I love how feminists always try to rewrite history.
>b-but it's because of US advertising, look at this old ad!
Then why is it a consistent thing across all countries?
http://www.wired.com/2010/05/pac-man-30-years/
>Toru Iwatani: Around the time that we launched Pac-Man, video arcades were filled with games where you shoot aliens. It seemed very dark. It was for men, it wasn’t fashionable at all. When women would go out, they’d go out in a group of friends or with a boyfriend as a couple. And I realized that if women and couples were going to come to game centers, they had to be cheerful places.
>When you think about things women like, you think about fashion, or fortune-telling, or food or dating boyfriends. So I decided to theme the game around “eating” — after eating dinner, women like to have dessert.
Damn, I haven't seen a video this flat out wrong in a while.
>game crash causes NES to be marketed as a boy to
No. The NES was redsigned to NOT look like a toy you retartd, it was deignesed to look like a higher end peice of electron equpiment, like a VCR. And it was marketed as a family entertainment system. It's in the name of the product. You would know that if you knew anything about gaming history, instead of just picking up an NES within the past 5 years cause it's "hip" and "retro".
>video games have been marketed solely towards men and thats why the audience for them is mostly male
Also not true. Companies what to sell their product to as many people as possible, they have tried time and time again to market to a female audience, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. And when it does work they usually buy a console and that game, and that's it.
I could go on about this shit further, but I got bored...
>>318430483
>Women like eating and desserts
>creates a game around that
>Pro feminazism company holds it up as positive example
I don't quite know how to connect these dots but it sound hitlarious so far.
>>318427873
>>318425663
I really liked the voting episodes.
Pointed out a lot of bullshit about our political system.
>>318428732
I don't know why but it's become some kind of fetish.
>>318431094
I don't mind if women get more games that are more oriented towards their interests, it's only fair. The thing I don't like though is taking things i like and ruining it for the sake of appealing to women by filling it with QTE's and romance shit completely ruining any appeal the game ever had as an actual video game.
How many do you have?
Can I join?
>>318427634
It's because he's designed to look like an annoying know-it-all, since that's his shtick. Ruining shit and misconceptions with facts people would rather be ignorant about.
>>318432326
>>318432421
>>318432539
>>318432712
>>318428458
>>318428732
I don't know anime very well, are all these characters from the same show or is the animation style seriously this generic?
>>318426985
It is full of shit. They get their data from people using a toolbar that they install.
But I like telling people that 4chan is 90% female to shut up retards.
>>318432930
>>318432421 and >>318432539 are from the same show
>>318432930
>>318432712 and >>318432712 are from the same show too.
Imagine that.
>>318432930
Well, that comment is like "all black people look alike" which is simply not true.
The artstyle is somewhat generic, but they're moe anime, so they all share the moe traits, i,ie. Big eyes, heads, etc.
It's not strange that a stranger to anime would not spot the difference though.
Now start watching anime!
>>318433343
>Now start watching anime!
Hahaha, aaaahahahahaha, no.
![[HorribleSubs] YuruYuri S3 - 04 [720p].mkv_snapshot_10.36_[2015.11.27_22.53.19].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/O2fMtqg.jpg "[HorribleSubs] YuruYuri S3 - 04 [720p].mkv snapshot 10.36 [2015.11.27 22.53.19]")
>>318433452
>>318416094
>women are going to buy a ps4 for phone games they already play on their phone.
This fucken guy.
>>318422293
Notice how all women into harder games got into it through a boyfriend or husband?
By and large they just don't like that shit.
So is this just a short one-off thing like the original CH ones or is this a clip pulled from an entire episode about game stuff?
>>318434035
It's a full TV show, anon. It's like nine episodes in now.
>>318416094
>SO? GAYMZ ARE GAYMZ!!!
Fucking
K E K
E
K
>>318434128
Yes I know that, I'm asking if OP's clip is one of the shorts or pulled from a full episode
I feel like if there was a whole episode about gaming I would have seen more threads about it
>>318433504
is that the cartoon with the tomato girl?
>>318421139
Yea because women like the same movies men do...
Just because the main publishers are targeting the genres men like, doesnt mean they should target the genres women like.
>>318434236
It's pulled from a whole episode, but the episodes usually cover broader topics.
Like one episode was all about hygiene products, if I had to hazard a guess this one is about the various mediums of entertainment.
>>318433937
Because games were marketed to nothing but young boys for 30+ years anon.
>>318434254
yes
This could have been a veiled CollegeHumor thread. You fucking blew it, /v/.
>implying the marked wouldn't fix it if females would buy 60$ games
Also what a fucking fag.
>>318434437
then why do games like animal crossing and zelda have such large female fanbases, despite the marketing being gender neutral? Girls aren't men anon. They don't like autistic spreadsheet simulators and blood n' guts testosterone fests like guys do. Just accept it and move on.
Women don't like games
Look at some major polls on Gamefaqs, vast majority is men
>>318434702
What's there to say about CollegeHumor anymore? With the exception of "If Google Was a Guy" videos they're horribly unfunny.
They've been shit ever since 60% of the original cast left.
Spot on. Great vid. Really liking all of his stuff so far. Been doing my best to ensure video games are seen as an 'anyone' thing in my household and not exclude anyone for any reason, hopefully more people can do their part, too.
>hurrr durrrr girls playing mobile games are an untapped market
When will retards stop saying this shit? How is it untapped in any way? Do they not realize how big the mobile market is?
The girls who primarily play mobiles, will probably NOT even play video games.
My mother plays mobile games all the time, but she fucking HATES video games. She doesn't consider mobile games to be video games.
Mobile games and video games are not the same thing, they're not even the same market.
>>318434437
But a lot of them weren't.
See: >>318430483
Lots of them like Pac-Man were gender-neutral. It's just that most people who played games were boys and men, so along with the more gender-neutral ones, it made sense to market some of them more specifically to boys too.
>>318416094
>"women only play phone games because the console market advertises towards and targets men more than women so that should change so women can feel less excluded from the core market and shunned to shitty phone 'games'"
And yet the message you took from this is that companies should make more candy crush games.
It's always painfully obvious how /v/ intentionally misunderstands anything that doesn't support the insane victim complex that you all have developed.
>>318419612
The main difference between the music industry and the video game is money and time investment involved with production. Music is made by a smaller group of people and need to generate less money.
When it comes to video games, companies need to cover hundreds of employees for years, and expect to make all that money back and then some. Video game companies want the most bang for their buck, so they want the games to appeal to as many as possible. If there are studies saying that X are playing games, then they want X to buy their game, and hit all the aspects X is looking for.
>>318416094
Look at this man's appearance and tell me he will ever have an intelligent opinion on anything.
>>318435378
both opinions are absolute gutter shit.
>>318434806
You're completely missing the point. The point is that games have always been sold and marketed to young boys for the past 30 years. It's no surprise then whenever someone who doesn't play games thinks about them, the first thing that comes to mind is only young boys and manchildren play games. This isn't accidental. It's years of marketing that has become so ingrained in people's minds that it takes awhile before this association goes away. Are there games that women will enjoy? Yes, but if you can't ever get someone in the door, you can't change perceptions. Just lately, mass marketing hasn't been as effective due to the decentralized nature of information disseminated through the internet, that paradigm is changing a bit.
>>318416094
Didn't the mods already delete your shitty thread?
>>318435378
this is such fucking bullshit though, when's the last time you saw a game marketed towards exlusively men?
>CALL OF DUTY BLOPS THREE ON XBOX ONE
>BY BROS, 4 BROS
>NO GIRLS ALOUD
>#FUCKALLWOMEN
it's just such bullshit. Some women like video games. The majority of them don't. The ones that actually care enough about their fucking skyrim or zelda or whatever other casual shit don't let some imagined social stigma stop them from enjoying it
>>318435638
>games are marketed exclusively towards young boys
this is such bullshit
>>318435585
>industries as a whole probably shouldn't exclude 50% of the population
>gutter shit opinion
Woah, someone with prejudice on /v/? I never thought I'd see the day!
>>318435790
>games are marketed exclusively towards young boys
>this is such bullshit
Aside from Barbie games they overwhelmingly were from the 80s til the mid 2000s. You're obviously underage or deluded if you can't agree on this simple fact.
>>318429734
>There isn't some sort of universal boy club at all the offices of the major gaming corporations that sit around saying "god we could get so much money from these mobile gamers but their females and I DON'T WANT COOTIES"
This so much.
Iam so tired of these fucking arguments when we live in a fucking capitalist society. Do these fools really believe that if there were some crazy money in making game X (which features only people from the LGBTQ*KIN whatever community) big/small corporations wouldnt DO IT?
Honestly I believe sometimes these people forget what capitalism or that we live in a capitalistic society.
I fucking hate this idiot and his style of humour.
>>318435793
what part of that 50% plays videogames?
if you can't play videogames because it's somehow marketed towards males then it's simply not for you. What is the distinction between a game for boys and a game for girls these days?
>>318436214
girls and boys as in female and male adults*
>>318435790
Every time I see that fucking ad for the phone game with that incredibly attractive model. Like, yesterday.
Call of Duty surprisingly enough made a recent attempt to include women in their advertisements with that one "seize glory" ad with Michael B Jordan. Of course, the ad as a whole had this weird thing of having the guy in the ad be a fat, ugly ginger, while the woman was a literal model. I'm not really sure how to interpret that to me, but it felt condescending and annoying as many video game ads often do.
Also, it's a little contradictory to call it an "imagine social stigma" directly after you did that one thing where you basically implied that women aren't REAL gamers. You know, when you said "fucking skyrim or zelda or whatever other casual shit." So, yeah. That sentence alone does nothing but support the idea that a stigma is there.
I mean, my god. The tiniest amount of self-awareness is not that hard, guys.
>>318416094
>art form of the century
>videogames are only for men
>starts video showing an telling there are a lot of women into videogames
wtf Adam, are you dumb ?
>>318435638
>It's no surprise then whenever someone who doesn't play games thinks about them
It doesn't have to do with advertising, it's just reality. See: >>318430483 again
The same way we see football, soccer, sports in general, or chess as a "guy" thing, we see games as a "guy" thing mostly because it's true across every culture. It has little to do with advertising. There have been plenty of examples of games, even some consoles marketed to girls, or gender-neutral. Some of them succeeded like The Sims or Nintendogs but they were one-off examples generally. Now it's mostly in the mobile phone market because everyone has a phone and they're simple games that anyone can play as a distraction.
>>318436484
>that fucking ad for the phone game with that incredibly attractive model
kate upton? damn is she overrated.
> when you said "fucking skyrim or zelda or whatever other casual shit
Because that's what the majority of female gamers play. It upsetting you doesn't make it any less true.
>so, yeah
>I mean, my god
I hope you are a woman because if not you're a fucking faggot bro
>>318419612
>Do you think teenage girls who went crazy over Bieber or one direction had any impact over what the people who enjoyed death grips or MF doom got? No because they're completely different markets within music.
That's only partially true and you know it. Not because anyone of us gives a single fuck about what some 12yr old brat is playing on her fucking iPhone, but because the gaming industry is still stuck in the ''follow the money'' mindset.
And that means 2 things:
1.Publishers everywhere notices how easy it is to please the ''casual'' market and starts trying to make everything more ''accessible'' for the mass by purposefully deconstructing vidya genres and literally dumbing them down to the point where not even the new target audience finds any enjoyment out of it anymore. After that the cycle just starts a-new and we just get force-fed shitty games and halfhearted products.
2.The ''untapped market'' isn't nearly as profitable as these idiots are saying that they are, and/or they are just straight up lying straight to our faces, ruining our/you'r part of the industry and willfully makes everyone not on their side look bad.
A mixture of both of these thing are going on right now. Option 1 more so than 2 at the moment.
That's why so many of us are upset about this, these fucking assholes does not try too lead by example and instead just choose to try their hand at silencing the silent majority by spreading misinformation while also trying their best to force already established and well known developers/publishers to make products catered to them and only them.
At the end of the day, it's just a giant shit-flinging competition and it doesn't matter what side you choose since everyone suffers equally from the repercussions that this has on the industry.
>>318436214
>I don't understand extremely basic concepts of psychology, targeted demographics, marketing, or social attitudes
I really don't wanna debate this with you because I doubt you'll ever get it or even attempt to, but I'll give it ONE shot.
At the store, there are two disposable razors. One is pink and white and is packaged in a pink box.The other is blue or black or green and is packaged in a blue or black or green box. They are the exact same razor, just differently colored and differently packaged.
There's absolutely nothing saying the pink razor is "simply not for men," yet the only men who would buy the pink one are people who are buying it for a woman. This concept has been supported countless times in countless studies.
How a product is advertised and packaged makes a very big difference in society. This is a heavily supported concept.
>>318429734
>If mobile games on consoles would of been profitable they would of done it by now. This isn't 1994 and running the data on this stuff isn't hard.
Well, they did try putting Angry Birds on consoles. That went about as well as you'd expect.
>>318427634
*teleports behind you*
>>318437039
>Option 1 more so than 2 at the moment.
It will stay like that forever simply because you cant beat capitalism.
>>318436819
>Because that's what the majority of female gamers play. It upsetting you doesn't make it any less true.
I never claimed it wasn't. I'm just explaining why it's the case.
Also, oh boy, now you're showing yourself to be sexist towards men! You're a real stand-up guy.
>>318437105
I own angry birds on steam :3
>>318416094
>let me look up a few poorly done studies to back up my subjective claims
it's like /v/ has their own television programming...
>>318437319
Your passive aggressive attitude makes me want to violently rape you
>>318437415
I also own plenty of shit on Steam but you don't see me bragging about it.
>>318427634
>video games don't make you violent!
>>318437085
tldr ur an fagit.
it's a fucking idiotic idea for companies to make hardcore games for females, so that's why we don't see it happening. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
>>318437513
You should go on /sp/, you'll find out how sports make you violent. Better ban sports because it creates toxic masculinity!
>>318437475
Oh no, I'm so scared! You went for that one word that you've heard so many women saying triggers them online! Even worse, you still think I'm a woman! I'd better back down, your route of trying to silence me through intimidation is so much more effective than actually making an argument.
>>318437717
The cultures/fandoms of some sports actually do perpetuate toxic masculinity. I hope you weren't joking.
>>318437823
>woman
no it's exactly the fact that you're a passive aggressive little twink that makes me want to impale your boypussy
I'm gonna make you wear a dress and call me daddy fag boi
>>318437671
I've never seen someone try to refute a heavily supported hypothesis with a personal attack before! You must do great on papers.
>>318437945
>omg I can't believe these men are acting like men this is so problematic
>>318437823
>>318438112
is this your first day here, sweetheart? :^)
>>318438112
>heavily supported hypothesis
well if it got 1000 reblogs it must be true
>>318438002
I still don't really get if you're trying to shock or scare me or what. I see no problem with guys wanting to wear a dress and get plowed by a bear. I don't want to get plowed, but I'm always down to get lightly dominated by a short haired girl who's taller than me.
>>318438207
>men have to be one way and one way only
This is magical
>>318437945
Exactly, let's ban that.
Someone said he wanted to brutally fuck an actress and how he hates black people on /tv/ earlier, so better ban television shows since it causes racism and sexism. Also /lit/ made stupid comments about a Youtube video made by a girl and because of that she removed the video from Youtube a few months ago, better police books a lot more.
>>318438452
>men can't act a certain way
This is magical
>>318438328
>femdom faggot
why am I not surprised
I don't care if you like wearing dresses or not, you're going to put it on and suck my fucking dick or I'm going to kill you
>>318438452
>men all have to act like women or they are evil
>>318437823
>>318438112
I think it's time for you to go to a different website. Tumblr might be more suitable for you.
>>318438276
I was gonna keep replying jokingly, but I actually have been on /v/ since around 2005ish, and it's pretty sad how it's morphed into a haven for normies who hate people and video games instead of companies and normalfags who think gender norms are the shit and women are dumb.
>they only market to boys because they're old fashioned and out of touch!
Top kek. Marketers for EA, Sony, Microsoft, Activison, etc. are some of the smartest minds in the industry. They don't market to boys because they hate girls, they market to boys because they know it's more efficient. For example, for every $10,000 spent on marketing towards boys/men they may see a $14,000 return but for every $10,000 spent on marketing towards girls/women they may only see a $12,000 return.
Marketing is basically just investing, and investing in women in the vidya industry isn't as good as investing in men.
I can't believe how triggered you guys are getting, you're more sensitive than Reddit
>>318438854
you would know.
>>318419982
it's a look, but you're blind, so it's ironic.
I see what he did when the kid sperged in the end
>>318416094
Even in that short video there is a huge contradiction. So woman makes up most of the gaming market and at the same time they are not welcome in the industry? what sense does that makes?
>women are huge untapped market!
>billions of dollars!
>make a AAA game targeted and advertised at women
>it sells like shit
>something something internalized misogyny
>>318416094
I actually like Adam Ruins Everything, but this seems like a really long stretched out way just to say that video game marketing needs to change.
>>318416094
Everything wrong with the world can be traced back to politics or marketing. Shock and awe.
women and men are different
>HURRDURR PHONE GAME NOT REAL GAME
You have 10 seconds to explain why Candy Crush isn't a game, you no-true-Scotsmanning fucks.
And whatever you say can't apply to Tetris as well.
He made much better points in the other episodes. Probably because Games are a contested subject and social gamers need to be seperated from console/pc gamers thanks to a completely different set of interests and investments.
Some person who downloaded a free game on to their phone doesn't have the same market weight as someone who spent $400+ on a system and $60 on each game
Is an ad like this marketing to women?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSSnp6g7LKM
>>318440000
>laughing when you miss the robot
>not throwing your ds at the wall
>>318421639
Or that moonman doom mod
>everyone calling Adam a liberal because they disagree with him
You know he's a libertarian, right?
>>318439747
They are games, they're just not the same type of games, so trying to force everything with interactivity into the same category without any delineation is stupid.
>>318440184
ADAM ON SUICIDE WATCH
Fuck all the regressive liberals.
>>318439747
They are games, but they're so different in purpose and market than console and PC games that the two should be segregated. The idea that the fanbase of mobile games has any impact on bigger games is a misconception. That's like saying magazines are books because they're printed on paper and you read them.
>>318439747
It is, it's just not the same game as COD, FF, DaS, or whatever. Different games cater to different people, whether you want to argue sex, race, IQ, interests, or whatever. Pointing to it and saying game companies are leaving behind an untapped market is silly when they cater to different ones. If candy crush was released on PS4 not much would change, that untapped market wouldn't suddenly be tapped, because it's already tapped by phones. Target and American Eagle both sell clothes, but they often appeal to different markets. Videogames are no different.
>>318440184
is that good or bad?
>>318440184
>lolberatarian
ugh I'd rather deal with libs, at least they're a real political ideology and not some inane fantasy
>>318416094
At least the video title was correct.
>>318440184
They also straight up call him "the most social justice of all of us" on one of the Ask College Humor episodes.
>>318440406
Good because it meant he didn't take sides on the political episode.
>>318440534
Libertarians support social justice.
>>318439747
It's a game but it's not part of the "core gamer" audience. Some fat mom who spends 6 hours a day playing candy crush probably wouldn't be excited for Dark Souls 3.
It's 2 completely different audiences. The faggot in OP's video seems to think that these 2 audiences should be 1, but that's never going to happen.
>women play games, but not these core games like ones on consoles or PC because MARKETING
What a utter load of horseshit. They dont play them because they dont want to, not because of some made up boogieman bullshit.
>>318440184
Libertarians are even worse.
Either be liberal or be anarchistic, don't choose some fantasy middle ground that will never work.
>>318416094
dang I watched a few of this dudes earlier episodes and thought he was legit. But seeing this I see how easy it is for him to just put up a link to a study but then show how oblivious he actually is to the topic at hand.
>>318439747
They are games.
People who play free phone games (i.e. 90% of people in developed countries) don't all play $60 console/PC games, so using the former as a demographic to judge the latter is worthless.
>>318440864
Same thing happened with john oliver for me. Did that video on gamers and i realized how much of a hack he was.
>>318421039
Because the gameplay in the Quest series fucking sucks. It had tons of unavoidable game overs and puzzles which require items several screens back which DON'T MAKE SENSE. The only reason people like adventure games was the writing not the gameplay (like Monkey Island).
>>318421262
They also make more money than consoles
Whats your point?
There's never been anything stopping women from buying games. In the early to mid 2000's all those DDR and Singstar games sold entire PS2 consoles on their own because girls wanted just those two games. Then they never bought any more software for those consoles, even the sequels to those DDR and singing games they liked so much and the market stopped catering to them.
Shit like the Sims and MMORPGs have significant female playerbases, but women just aren't into console/PC games anywhere near as much as men are, so these companies don't shoehorn themselves into marketing for a distinctly female demographic.
I promise that if there was significant interest among the female demographic, it would be marketed to immediately. Half the budgets of most AAA games these days goes directly into market research and advertising.
>>318440000
This sure are, but what about this one?
>>318441661
I mean that, and forgot this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejMqe1WBtEQ
>>318441064
When did John Oliver do a video on gamers?
I dont get what hes trying to say about marketing. If the video games gameplay is all about macho men with guns and explosions, and the advertisement features macho men with guns and explosions, why would a girl who wants a game about macho men with guns and explosions not like the advertisement?
>early age of vidya
>girls: Haha, fucking losers playing video games, etc.
>boys: it's not that weird to like video games
>modern day
>girls: it's not that weird to like video games
>boys: fucking attention whores, you're merely pretending, etc.
Moral of the story: the more things change, the more they stay the same.
>>318441986
further, he used nintendo as an example boys club marketing but the wii was specifically advertised to grandmas and families, and gee, look how that turned out
>cellphone games are games
yeah and i guess a metro is the same as a roller coaster because both run on rails
>>318416094
never trust someone with beady narrow eyes
>>318442041
Your moral is contradictory.
>>318417560
They kind of are. Most people who grew up on Commodore 64 games and such don't have such an elite view on what qualifies as a game, since a lot of the early stuff were pretty basic. Not unlike casual mobile games nowadays.
>>318442143
>and gee, look how that turned out
It sold well? Or are you talking about software sales?
>>318441814
He's probably talking about the time where he was talking about online harassment
>>318442262
>he's never heard of that phrase before
Jesus, anon.
>>318416094
>hurr people who tell me women gamers are irrelevante are children
okay Adam, thank you for that marketing technique
>-But Adam, girls only play on their phones!
>T-They're just being left out of the console market, is all
>-But Adam, girls like candy crush shit. Are you suggesting PS4s become Pong/Pacman/Candy crush machines?
>S-shut up kiddo. You're immature and thus irrelevant in this conversation.
>>318442349
yeah they realized the casual market was unsustainable in the long term
>>318439747
Tetris doesn't whore you out of your money if you get a Game Over
Women don't like console games because it's very hard to make women things into vydia.
I mean, what women in general like to do? Men like action, violence and doing things in general; women...Like things I guess, but i'm not sure.
>>318416094
OP is just shilling, despite his phony outrage.
Notice how he posts a nice green text bait, and a direct link to the video.
You idiots are suckers. /v/ is an utter fucking shithole.
>>318416094
because the only thing better than playing inferior version of old ass games is playing then with your hand in front of the screen not letting you see shit
Nintendo marketed to the family with the Nintendo Wii and the WiiU and WOMEN dumped Nintendo's ass when smart phones came around.
Actually, NO! Nintendo did more than target families - NINTENDO TARGETED THE 3DS TO WOMEN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoY6S76Gxnk
WOMEN STILL CHOSE THEIR SMART PHONES.
Stop forcing women back to a platform they do not support!
HAAH
WAAW
>>318442684
wii fit was clearly marketed to men wtf are you on about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHwxP9Vlpjw
>>318442364
Oh. I guess anon was just so triggered by the mention of zq or whoever was used that it made him claim that John Oliver must be a hack for not agreeing with him.
>>318416094
>His solution for women not playing PS4 is turning the PS4 into a candy-crush machine
Hwat?
50% of drivers are female, yet only 7% drive Lamborghinis. Why is it not an issue on the car industry?
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-chart-proves-women-are-smarter-than-men-2013-12-23
Oh, that's right! NOBODY CARES because "activity or hobby men show preference for is ridiculed by females". Isn't this pretty much the same thing going on for "hardcore" gamers, where girls are all casual and only make up 7% of the hardcore gamer scene? (camwhores don't count)
>>318442041
more like
>LMAO I'M A BIG GAMER SUPER BROS IS THE BEST ONE WAIT WHAT'S AN F ZERO IS THAT THAT ONE GAME WITH FALCON GUY FALCON PAWNCH XDD LE CAKE IS A LIE XDD
>I'M SUCH A RETRO GAMER YOU GUYS I HAVE LIKE 15 ROMS ON MY NES EMULATOR
>>318442974
Not him, but over here, in Portugal, Wii fit was largely promoted towards women.
>>318442908
Stop showing off your comments like they're special.
We could make shoestring budget otome games and make millions off of lonely women shlicking themselves to poorly-drawn fucbois.
>>318416094
>The video game crash of '83 was somehow a BAD thing
TOP FUCKING LEL
>>318443153
do they have sarcasm in Portugal?
>>318416094
Who is this dumb asshole?
>>318443246
I fucking hope there's another videogame crash looming.
in 10 years, gaming will be at another peak a-la 90's.
>>318442467
The thing was there were several failures there, then. For one, they didn't convert into repeat sales, wii users generally bought 1 or 2 games and never touched anything else. Two, devs had seriously difficulty pinning down the market and it wasn't until ubi came with just dance that devs found any traction. And three, they didn't convert to "gamers" or even slightly less casual or loyal customers, they dumped wii like a rock and just went straight to phones playing easy games and not developing any sort of attachment to the typical gaming market - FF, CoD, whatever. They came, ate, and left. Thus the shift by nintendo back to more core demos, though I'd kinda argue against that, but that's another story.
>>318443153
this is bullshit, the nintendo is sexist. stop spreading lies
If 50% of gamers are women, then why should we change the industry to further appeal to them? Clearly, they're already buying, and playing games the way they are.
>>318442581
>OP is just shilling, despite his phony outrage.
Of course he is. /v/ MADE Anita. She never would've been anything if all the autistic outrage didn't help fuel her fundraising campaign, because they couldn't just let her be a nobody.
Riling up gaming communities = attention and money.
>>318443383
>Thus the shift by nintendo back to more core demos, though I'd kinda argue against that, but that's another story.
Why would you argue to that? They went back to their old market of autists and manchildren, that's a fact.
>>318443468
Shhhh, don't tell /v/ the truth.
>>318443468
that's a myth, her kickstarter was shilled on kotaku and joystiq before it ever came to /v/. it was only shitposted on /v/ AFTER it got funded
>>318442974
The wii fit trainer ended up becoming a straight shotacon porn star, that's the one and only legacy the wii fit has left Nintendo
>>318443468
Not true. The harassment articles on Anita that pushed her Kickstarter focused on her YouTube comments and emails.
Don't think for a minute that those comments only happened because of 4chan because no one was talking about 4chan until Gamergate.
SHE IS UNANIMOUSLY HATED BY ANYONE WHO IS NOT APART OF THE TUMBLR MAFIA.
>>318416094
This was actually pretty informative and seemed somewhat on point up until the very end. I think the tipping point into stupid bullshit happens at the exact moment he disregards the "They're playing phone games not console/ PC games" argument as being illegitimate.
After that it's just standard cuk speak making everyone who disagrees with them out to be a stupid child instead of actually having an argument.
>Read any good books lately?
>Yeah, I read a pamphlet while taking a shit
>That's not really a book
>Whatever! WORDS ARE WORDS
What the fuck is wrong with the media, /v/?
They want to replace Europeans with Muslims.
They want to replace women with trannies.
And they want to replace high quality triple A production value with shovelware.
>>318443607
I'm an old autist and manchild, I kinda expect Nintendo hard when talking about them "returning", but they simply went back to Iwata's Nintendo.
>>318440864
Same thing here.
>>318444357
It's almost like Cultural Marxism devised by the Frankfurt school of thought wasn't a conspiracy theory after all. Nah, I'm sure it's just concidence.
>>318444357
>high quality triple A production value
>high quality
>triple A
Good one /pol/.
Is this one of those numales /pol/ told me about?
Not everything has to be for everybody.
I don't get why other people don't get that.
>>318444634
You can't really argue that CoD had high production values, they had like over a thousand people working on those games.
>>318443229
in the west it would be all dudes who want to play as a cute little girl who is in constant rape danger but never actually gets raped, like Diabolik Lovers, causing the players to tear their dicks off in frustration.
>>318425629
>many shounen manga in the 90s went from buff bodybuilder Superman/Kenshiro types to more slender, shoujo-expat looking guys like Rurouni Kenshin around the same time as Zelda's flirtation with a physically attractive Link.
ZELDA RUINS EVERYTHING
Here is one way that game companies are shilling to women.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meNAy5c-kqc
It's a little creepy to be honest because it's so transparent commercial.
It's like the female equivalent of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rbU0mzoMyw
This is what you wanted feminists.
>>318434807
Women are smarter than men. We don't need game guides.
>>318444950
But that has little correlation with quality. There's a middle-ground between bloated LCD-pandering AAA games that cost tens of millions of dollars to make and market, and low-budget shovelware.
>>318442908
>IamSpacedad
Jesus it's like the same 12 people just roam the internet looking for this kind of shit to whiteknight every single time it pops up.
That nigga's a goon too.
>>318445213
But are you in London?
Ahahaha. This retard thinks that these companies just let money fly away because they hate women. WHat the fuck. The one thing you can be sure about is if these people could make more profit by selling to kangaroos, they would be selling to kangaroos. This is the magic of business and free market.
Women just aren't interested in this, if they were so "overlooked", anyone could just start a company and become a millionaire by making AAA games for womyn. Go ahead hipster retard, start the company, get your free shekels in this supposedly untapped market, or are you afraid that your 100% guaranteed to be true theory would fail you?
>>318416094
There's clearly a market for women its mobile games so they should stay there and fuck off
>>318445337
I know /v/ hates the low skill ceiling and short campaign mode in CoD but it's far from being a bad series. Just because you dislike it doesn't make it bad.
>Women make up 50% of gamers!
>We need to make games more welcoming to women!
Which is it mother fucker, cause you can't have both.
>>318445412
>Ahahaha. This retard thinks that these companies just let money fly away because they hate women
No. No he does not.
That's not what he sad at all. I understand that talking about women triggers /v/ but actually pay attention to things.
>>318418891
Not everybody is an autist who lives outside of society anon.
>>318445776
How about explaining it instead of being condescending?
>>318445776
He said it's an untapped market.
>>318445526
I still think high-production value and huge marketing expenses don't make a good game. Having nothing but huge blockbusters and nothing else isn't really that much better.
>>318445942
>Having nothing but huge blockbusters and nothing else isn't really that much better.
Agree, it's exactly how the industry looks like right now.
>>318445852
Not everybody is a paranoid narcissist who yearns to be the centre of *positive* attention 24/7.
Nintendo obviously had sexist ads for boys look at this macho shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOVFVe_SScI
I can have my market, women can have their market. One doesn't need to change to appeal to the other.
>>318421639
>Killing evil demons is one of the most ancient fictional stories of heroes shared between cultures
>To do so violently and efficiently like in DooM is a signifier of a great hero
>OMG THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG WITH VIDEO GAMES, THIS VIOLENCE SHOULDN'T EXIST
Even as a fucking skeleton myself I have to shake my fucking head. They are fucking DEMONS. DEMONS YOU FUCKING SHITTER.
>>318445942
It's the same thing that happened to movies. Now you have few movies that have high budget and have some uniqueness and deeper value. Most high budget movies/games are streamlined so that more people pay for them, they don't want to make the best product, they want to make the product that sells most. Which generally results in something nobody finds amazing or revoltionary but a shitton of people will be like "meh it's ok I'll buy it".
Imho now it's mostly on indie studios and small companies to be the ones who push the new stuff. There are obviously exceptions but that's how it simply is.
>>318416094
>video games
>art-form
pick one and only one
this guy is an idiot, holy shit.
>>318441772
no that trailer is clearly advertised towards white men who want to help their wives prep the bull
>>318445385
>nigga's a goon too
goons are considered like savage, thugs or those who do the dirty work, you fucking cumstain
Phone games, which are the most popular amongst women, are also notorious for having some of the most sexually charged, inappropriate advertisements in the industry.
Maybe Women by and large just aren't fans of the kind of video games men enjoy?
>>318446810
goon is how something awful forum members identify themselves in raids
>>318446810
>not knowing about SA
fucking newfag
>>318416094
If you count facebook games and shit as real games then the industry is doing more than enough to cater to women. What untapped market is there if candy crush and shit is already tapping that market the point he is making is idiotic its like saying since more women like to play harmonica than all male musicians combined saxophone makers should start to design saxophones for them its a fucking retarded to suggest that they are all ready to make the commitment to a more complex and expensive instrument that needs upkeep
>>318438998
God dammit. I've seen this so many times and I still laugh at the god damn pez dispenser part.
>>318445592
stop raping me
Not heard of that series before but that was really interesting.
I do wonder where we would be today if Nintendo had gone pink instead of blue. I'm not joking about that either, I really do wonder how different things would be if Nintendo had decided that games were for girls and the other companies followed suit.
>>318421421
Jokes on you, I never had a gf.
you know, in japan, the women started demading the males pandered to them, and the males said fuck off.
so the women went, and made their own games. its now a large industry, primarily dominated by women, making their own videogames.
meanwhile, white western women...cry a bit more about it.
also: why do the sjws never mention this industry which should be a crowning, proud achievement for their kind, everywhere?boylove visual novels
>>318445854
Uh it's simple.
After the crash, when Nintendo got back into the market they decided a way to get back in was to market the NES as a toy. At the time (and in many ways still, though less so today) the toy market was heavily segregated by gender. So they picked to market it as a Boys Toy.
Then as the years went by, inertia kept this up, thus making video games seen as a boys activity.
That's it, nothing about gameing companies hating women.
>>318447653
why did the wii fail though?
>>318448113
>Wii
>failing
what?
it's the best selling console of all time.
>>318447225
They would have failed in that endeavor and either gaming would have died or they would have realized that boys are a much more lucrative market for them.
You think they just arbitrarily made that decision? They went off their their own common sense that boys would be more into that sort of thing. They used research. Had smart phones existed at the time of their decision though, they likely would have gone a different route.
>>318448113
It, uh, didn't.
>>318448368
it sold well until it didn't, then women moved on to cellphones
why was that?
>>318417560
They absolutely are, but that doesn't mean that entire genres don't have entirely different audiences.
>>318448418
>They went off their their own common sense that boys would be more into that sort of thing.
Protip: "Common Sense" never actually makes sense.
>>318448368
>it's the best selling console of all time.
Not that guy, but no, the DS and PS2 are. I think his point is that the Wii was a fad because it was more like a new toy. After 2010 the Wii sales collapsed, and the Wii U failed because that audience completely abandoned it after the initial novelty of being able to waggle a controller.
>>318419129
>women
>not dropping hundreds on meaningless shit
>>318448113
The Wii was one hit wonder but a successful one hit wonder at that.
>>318448459
Don't post like that.
>>318421714
Its rubbish because you're comparing two different business models, with console or pc games they ask a full price one time, with phone games they just keep asking a small amount so that they can trick you in spending more total money while you think you're only giving them 2 dollars, they think 40~60 dollars is way too much to pay for a a simple time waster while they spend 70+ on phone game through smaller amounts
>>318448461
it wasn't just women. Lots of webs got it too. Lots of families got it.
Problem is it was too gimicky. Wii experienced it's own modern gaming crash - People got tired of family gaming.
All group activities are a fad and the wii is no diferent. Also, did I mention the gimick got old really fast?
>>318448585
you're saying they just randomly decided that teenage boys were their strongest demographic
>>318447653
Why do you make of statements like this from the early days of the industry: >>318430483
Or the fact that you had pretty much the same situation in the West, with most developers names being male?
What seems most likely to me is that boys were the ones who were interested in the games and computers in the first place, and that's why some of them were marketed to them, because they were the ones who actually were interested in purchasing them.
Also the real cultural problem back then wasn't advertising, it's that games and computers just weren't fashionable, so that's what kept a lot of people from wanting to be associated with them.
>>318448585
Where did you get that little nugget of wisdom, tumblr?
>>318448648
It's only good if they can show it off to their girlfriends and social media. A black/silver/white box and some fancy controllers isn't going to turn any heads.
>>318448942
>Why do you make
Meant to say "What do you make".
>>318447506
Oh, white western women are doing a little more than crying. They're making incredibly shitty text adventure games about their puberty feels and absent dad feels. Well, they're making their orbiters make the games and taking credit for it, but that's something!
Meanwhile, Japanese women created Rance, Suikoden, and Skies of Arcadia.
This makes me madder than it should.
>>318448585
They most likely sat a bunch girls and boys into rooms with their console and observed who responded better to it in order to come to their decision. Seeing as that means that the kids were tested BEFORE "society" could tell them whats right for them to like in this case, that only helps the idea that boys are more naturally inclined to like these sorts of games.
>>318449191
but thats internalized misogyny
>>318418426
>adam
>liberal
He's just a realist. He's about to do an episode about how it's too late to do shit about climate change, when libfags would kill him for it.
>>318442312
>Most people who grew up on Commodore 64 games
all 6 of them
>don't have such an elite view on what qualifies as a game
bullshit
If anything I'd say kids (3-12) are an untapped market. Sure you have Lego games and Minecraft but...what else is there really? Where are games like Crash Bandicoot, Jak & Daxter, Spyro, Ratchet & Clank and Sly? Are there any good licence games suitable for kids anymore? And fuck Skylanders and Disney Infinity, those are just a huge ripoff. Why is Nintendo the only one who has games for this demographic? For parents of these kids it'd create a reason to actually purchase a game console instead of throwing an iToy at their kids.
>>318449562
It's too late to prevent it, but we could be doing more to prepare future generations for it.
>>318416094
Why are they complaining so loud?
Wouldn't it be better to make games for girls, instead of trying to change the part of the industry that already caters to boys?
>>318449614
Good luck finding anything that can compete with Minecraft and Lego. There's going to be a new Ratchet & Clank, but I think it's more targeted at adults. I think that everyone's thrown in the towel on kid's games because of Notch's fucking thing.
>>318449814
That's really my view honestly. It's too late to completely stop it, but it doesn't hurt to be a little more environmental, and it's best to prepare places for when shit is going to hit the fan in advance/
>>318447506
>>318449191
Actually can I play devils advocate rightnnow?
A thought just occurred to me about this argument. Maybe in Japan women had an easier time entering the industry because back then when most games were little more than shitty text based games, and it grew from there with them already present in the industry and markets. In the west women have been late to the game in asking to be pandered too, and now the ones that are trying with their shitty text adventures (that are already way out of date) can't find a real market so now they are trying to force it.
Does this make any sense?
>>318450113
you can make a game in a few hours with a litany of 3d make your own game programs. literally.
there are repositories of free models, textures, sound, even scripts and game types. they teach this to children in primary schools. children.
>>318450113
No, the Japanese visual novel scene was always dominated by males.
>>318449541
I was exaggerating, as we do have talent like Jade Raymond and Amy Hennig, who are always fucking ignored whenever someone talks about women in the industry.
>>318450371
i was joking man. you dont really think theres such thing as internalized misogyny do you
>>318450000
Yeah I get that, but at the same time no parent in their rightful mind will purchase a PS4 or Xbone for a few Lego games and Minecraft. I wouldn't at least. And Sony at least owns quite a few IPs so why not utilize those? Or create new IPs for the lower ages. I don't know man, I just feel this is also partially the reason for the market moving more towards mobile platforms. There is demand but definitely not enough supply to warrant the purchase of more than one expensive machine.
>>318450645
You don't think white males have social and economic advantages in modern society?
>>318416094
>games are games
FUCKING SOPHISTRY
>>318450738
no, 80% of all suicides, most depression and homelessness isnt enough. i want more.
>>318450845
Males are only depressed because they don't talk about their problems. They are bigger victims of patriarchy than women.
>>318450934
The patriarchy fucking sucks at empowering men.
>>318450934
great, thats one of the many many issues pointed out there. wanna, cover them all, or you just subject changing as a deflection.
>>318451063
Just because you were born male doesn't mean you're entitled to empowerment.
>>318450738
>>318450845
>>318450934
>>318451063
>>318451141
What has that got to do with internalized misogyny?
>>318451141
What issues? Men face virtually no issues that they didn't create themselves. Such as the homelessness or the depressed, it's their own fault for turning out that way.
>>318451273
Denying the prevalence of male privilege IS a symptom of internalized misogyny.
>>318451273
we have no idea. ask the sjws who said it was. thats why i brought it up.
>>318451689
>sjws
Well meme'd, my friend.
>>318451805
best start believing in meme chains friend
you're in one
>>318450035
I just think our children will already have enough of an onus to bear once they inherit this world without us completely ignoring something like this. We can't stop it, but we can lighten the load. Screaming at each other until our esophagus bleeds only accomplishes so much.
>publishers refuse to cater to women and double their profits overnight because of "force of habit"
>untapped market
>is currently being tapped as hard as the previously mentioned video game market before the crash in 83
I wonder how this will end.
>>318451805
well, she did hashtag it sjw. was she lying?
>>318452221
There's no such thing as SJW stop forcing this boogeyman meme.
>>318416094
I mean, all the points have already been covered in the thread and you have eyes so the only thing I'm going to say is that I've seen his videos before and I think never has a ARRGGHH AM SILLY character but he does for this one. What the fuck is up with video games that makes people this bitter?
>>318422253
Hasbro has NERF Rebelle for preteen girls.
>>318452435
This industry is mostly populated by neckbeard trash, what did you expect?
>the women who like candy crush also like games like call of duty
>they just don't know it yet and ads are tricking them into thinking they don't
>>318451335
men are literal garbage and should all be exterminated tbfh
>>318452947
Girl power. Fuck white males.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqHYzYn3WZw
>>318416094
I really hope that major AAA publisher try to appeal to women more
because the resulting industry crash from women still not buying 60$ shooters even if the protagonist is a woman all while men are driven away from them due to too much pandering to women is going to be hilarious
What if we just make good girls' games?
Pic related, wildly successful because everyone else was too dumb to try it
>>318449614
Doesn't that demographic love Steam games? Like FNAF and Undertale
>>318449602
>Most people who grew up on Commodore 64 games
>all 6 of them
Opinion invalidated. Just shut up, retarded child. Go back to reddit.
>>318453158
maybe if we fed them their own dicks they'd understand rape culture a little more
>>318452817
>there are actual women actually making women orientated games right now
>they dont sell
>THE PATRIARCHY
Games aren't one giant homogeneous pile, there are varying genres. I'm not going to watch this video because I'm not falling for clickbait garbage, but the talk about how girls play tons of mobile games should be indicative of the fact that different types of games cater to different types of people.
JRPG is also a genre that isn't a boy's club. Casual games, like what was seemingly the Wii's entire library, are also games that aren't thought of as just for boys. Rhythm games? Not just for boys. This giant batch of story-driven visual novel games that is cropping up like The Walking Dead and Life is Strange, also not just for boys. Then you have franchises like Pokemon, Mario, and Zelda that have been the go-to for girls that love gaming.
There are also genres that probably sell only among men, but have no reason to not be bought by women. Strategy and Grand strategy games? There's no evidence that those kinds of games cater to men, they're just not popular among ladies for some reason.
Gaming is far from a boy's club these days. The only kinds of games that seem to actively cater to men are the ones where the primary demographic that buys the games are men; shooters, fighting games, violent action games, etc. I have no idea why there's this infatuation with playing the victim card these days.
>>318429734
Not just that but they have to concede one of two premises
>a) women largely prefer mobile mobile games to console/PC games and the market has already accounted for it by creating such games,meaning there's nothing wrong.
or
>b) Women are fragile little children who cant get into a hobby because of 90's advertising and need to be coddled.
either way they look bad.
>>318454853
>I have no idea why there's this infatuation with playing the victim card these days.
Because it works.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/the-rise-of-victimhood-culture/404794/
>MLP, a show made and advertised towards little girls.
>The majority of that fanbase are fucking men.
Advertisements don't and shouldn't matter to anybody in the slightest you fucking piece of shit. And if you're actually affected by it then you're probably the type of person who gets indoctrinated easily. Also if advertising in gaming are alienating women.even though they're not since game ads now focus on showing gamelay and top score reviewsWhat about how female clothing advertising should also address males who like to cross dress and other shit like that too?
God damn it adam. And I thought you we're alright.
>>318419751
Candy Crush is as real a game as any other, it's just not as complex or intensive.
>>318421147
More men place Candy Crush than women. Checkmate.
>>318421463
This guy actually has a legit TV show.
>>318456343
>More men place Candy Crush than women
Candy Crush is not a physical object thus people cannot place it and 0 != 0. Checkmate PS3 owners.
>>318456507
>0 != 0
shit meant 0 = 0
>>318416094
Fuck Candy Crush, when's Puzzle Quest 3?
>>318416094
>but thats stupid phone games
>GAYMZ R GAYMZ
>>318455556
i slightly disagree. advertising dosent ONLY work on "stupid" people, it works on everyone, just to a smaller degree. you can only really want to buy, or buy products you know exist, so advertising works by simply creating a known product in your mind. basically, even if coca cola ads dont make you want a coke, you cant want a coke regardless if you didnt know it existed. advertising let you know it existed.
>>318457549
Yeah. But if an ad shows you a product you didn't knew exist that doesn't mean your gonna buy it.
>>318458009
no i agree. just sayin, it works in other ways.
>>318416094
>/v/edditors already spamming clicks on the dislike button
you losers really care that much?
>>318457549
Ads aren't the only way to obtain knowledge of things
>>318458106
I guess. All in all. Adam Conover looks like and iced gem.
>>318458845
How else is he going to learn?
>>318450113
>devils advocate
Did you even watch the video at all? King's Quest on the computer was created by a woman so they had equal chance as much as other people to make it in the industry. Like men and women's so called "unfair equality" status which doesn't exist, they have to go to a computer and learn how to make games (and not insult their instructor while they at it) not just sit there make coffee for other people and poof the game is made for them.
Before you run off your mouth you might want to think that developers of games don't receive the same celebrity status as actors cause you know what the game is about the characters that they CREATE not about the fucking developers themselves.
>>318458106
Which is sad, and it explains why most AAA publishers spend half their budget on marketing. At least the internet makes it easier to circumvent it, but now it just means people have to manufacture controversies and shill their products all over social media to get attention instead.
>>318422543
Actually, he thinks they should stop making cars, because cars are bad.
>>318416094
Oh guy from college humor.... Ok next video please.
>>318416094
Great, now he's an sjw.
>>318459025
The poster isn't saying that. He's saying it's one way of disseminating information, which is true.
>women make up more than 50% gamers
>b-b-but it's still a boys only club it needs to be more welcoming to womem
something isn't right here
>>318416094
Why does every shitty video game revisionist historian think that mentioning E.T. and the video game crash gives them cred on specific vidya topics?
>>318459153
pretty much. i might not fall for the silly advertisements for all the games i play, but without actually somehow seeing they exist, i could never want it anyways. like the timothy olyphant hitman 47 movie. i saw the trailer and thought it looked TERRIBLE, but before seeing it, i didnt know there was one. i went and saw it despite the trailer because i hoped it would be faithful, and, well.
even tho most of my gaming informationsadlycomes from v, usually ill see it because some OTHER poster saw an ad or commercial or some sort of advertising, and came here to talk about it. "hey new trailer of XXXXX game its shit". an advertisement, even if i didnt see it myself, made me aware of it, and i could end up purchasing it, while never seeing the ad in question that ended up making me aware it existed.
wall of text over
>>318425530
>Wow i guess more sports should focus on female leagues right?
They should. Or don't you want to see the world yoga championships?
>>318429692
>to fart on each other or whatever girls do.
I believe they call it "queefing".
>>318419982
>>318417662
>autism
An ironic look is looking overly tacky / goofy but your good looks and suave personality are so good it carries the outfit. Its like a tongue in cheek situation, where people look at you and second guess your fashion sense, but seeing how socially competent and confident they are and how no one else questions their taste in clothes, it turns the tables on you and makes you question yourself if it was tacky at all in the first place.
Not fucking hard to understand. Pic related
>>318462852
that is retarded
>Comparing playing phone games to buying a dedicated device for playing games
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THEY WON'T MOVE TO THE CONSOLE MARKET BECAUSE THE CONSOLE OFFERS THEM NOTHING THE PHONE GAMES ARE AN ADDED BONUS TO HAVING A PHONE NOT THE ENTIRE REASON.
KILL ME.
>>318463349
But its true
>>318463456
pls don't do that to yourself
>>318432963
>Data from a toolbar
>most are woman
Of course women are more likely to install dumb malware toolbars
While I disagree with him using the tired old "women play more games than boys" argument I actually found myself agreeing with him on many points. Why DON'T Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft take the female market seriously?
It would not only be beneficial for the companies but for us too. You see, the more women playing games the more women more open to playing real games like Bayonetta, The Last of Us, God of War and Mario and Luigi RPGs and that means more potential girlfriends for us.
So it's a two way street and we should consider the effect a more female culture in video games will have for us. And it would also make sales stronger. There should be a stronger network of information. A more direct way of presenting games to all genders. Maybe that's what Nintendo's attempting?
tl;dr it's not a bad thing to want companies to pander more to women because it'll open them up to actual games and thus strengthen the market we want to be strenghened. Maybe we should show our powerlevels more irl.
>>318466446
>that means more potential girlfriends for us.
Pffft hahahaha. Your dream nerdy grill craves Tyrone cock like every other woman, not pasty white dick.
>>318466446
Aunt Cass > Honey Lemon > shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>go go
>>318466446
>that means more potential girlfriends for us.
You're not even trying.
>>318466446
Companies have had about 40 years to try to get women to play "real games" Some of them already do. If increasing their profit margins by 200% instantly was this easy, they would've already done it.
>>318437085
>Not knowing that there's more differences between men's and women's razors than the packaging.
No wonder you think women would be just as interested in CoD as Bejeweled if not for marketing.
>>318416094
this nigga look like drew carey crossed with a troll doll
>>318466446
>Why DON'T Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft take the female market seriously?
How? Even if we accept his argument, we're talking about a behavioral trend that was engendered in marketing for children three decades ago. And then we're not even talking about gaming as a whole, but rather hobbyist gaming which is seen as a masculine activity.
What do you want them to do?
>>318416094
>Polygon was listed as a credible source within the first 15 seconds
I was actually getting into this mini serious too. Shame.
>>318468070
looks like someone took Alton Brown and Giovanni Ribisi and smashed their heads together
>>318468348
*series
>>318438529
Not that guy but it's hilarious how edgy you are. Are you 12?
>>318416094
Who the fuck is Adam?
>>318468348
>adam RUIN everything
he did good job
>>318419751
Wasn't females giving a bad connotation whenever the subject of gaming came up throughout high school and college? What suddendly made them change their opinions of it? They used to ostracize people for even liking gaming or even casually gaming often saying that if you as much as played for 30 minutes that you were a shut in without any social life.
Now all of a sudden they are into gaming and have the audacity to demand the industry to change the foundations of what made it. This example doesn't just apply to gaming, but how females are overall in nature, they truly are naturally followers.
>>318439505
>make a AAA game targeted and advertised at women
When did this actually happen?
>>318468667
The guy ruining things
>>318421262
Because they exploit a minority of people that have psychological problems.
>>318416094
>Check his channel
>Bitches about Public Domain
>Boy says "I'm SCARED"
Just make some damn fan fiction
>>318422239
These liberal retards (not even Republican or any other retarded political spectrum) suffer from the same thing called cognitive dissonance.
>>318462852
that makes sense, thanks for the explanation
I'll just stick to the Keswick dinner jacket and black jeans though, as is tradition
>>318443025
I think that it was Anita "queen of the Jews" Sarkeesian.
>this thread is still here
>this nigga listed the ESA 2015 consensus where they added anyone who played a game at least once in their life to the list
>wonder why over 50% of women play games
10/10 I mad. Bias data was bias
>Make friends with a girl in high school
>Oh yeah, I play games
>Expect just shitty MUH ZELDA and such
>That's included, but also plays based shit like Harvest Moon and Chrono Trigger
>Over the next however many years we chill out and I expand her vidya horizons
It feels so good bros, I wish you all knew this feel.
>>318471974
>getting friendzoned that hard
Women are not friends. Get vidya bros.
>>318416094
didnt watch the vid but I assumed its like the show. some guy rattling off his opinions without any real evidence supporting it. its like giving a TV show to the average shitposter.
>>318450371
>Amy Hennig
I bet her games arePerfect
>girls used to bully me all throughout high-school because they somehow found out I play video games
I'm talking mean girls level shit here. Why the fuck do they want to not only join the hobby now, but want everything to cater to them.
>>318472216
Can you actually be friendzoned if you're not interested in a relationship? I mean, she's not afutanariso I really don't care about that.
>>318472456
Becausethey're still bullying
>>318472869
>likes futa
Oh, wait you're gay? Then yes, you can actually have true female friends.
>>318450113
You do know that single person indie games are a thing, right? If Scott Cawthon or Toby Fox can do it, why can't a woman?
>>318473630
>why can't a woman?
Because they don't want to. Period.
It's always sad how revisionist /v/ is. He's an asshole but he's right, games pre-Crash were marketting towards both men and women. You can even check out some of the archives of older game ads to see the truth.
The reality is that Nintendo capitalized off of the crash and shifted marketting towards men. Not just that though, they're responsible for some of the most reprehensible policies in video games to date (including return policies, copyright enforcement etc) due to what they did during the NES and SNES era.
>>318474305
>He's an asshole but he's right, games pre-Crash were marketting towards both men and women.
Can you not read? The point is that doesn't fucking mean anything. Nobody's stopping girls from playing or making games, only they are.
"Games are games" is like saying "movies are movies". Certain films appeal to each gender differently. Or should the males be upset that romcoms don't pander to their masculine interests?
>>318474505
Anon, you might be legitimately autistic if you think marketting doesn't matter. Marketting was one of the sole reasons Sega even got into the game, marketting is one of the largest drivers behind any form of capitalist society.
If you think it doesn't mean anything then you're a literal, highschool dropout retard who probably can't even do basic algebra. Or wilfully ignorant as to how it affects you in your day to day life.l
>>318473630
>why can't a woman?
Women have. Look at Cities: Skylines.
>>318474713
>Anon, you might be legitimately autistic if you think marketting doesn't matter. Marketting was one of the sole reasons Sega even got into the game, marketting is one of the largest drivers behind any form of capitalist society.
Still waiting to hear how that's actually keeping women out of gaming
I repeat, you clearly cannot read
>>318474792
wait I misread the 'single person' part.
>>318474305
See: >>318430483
>He's an asshole but he's right, games pre-Crash were marketting towards both men and women. You can even check out some of the archives of older game ads to see the truth.
And this continued after the crash. It's always been partly advertised to men, partly gender-neutral advertisements, and some to girls.
>>318449121
achievements
Well there are games that are similar to mobile games on steam except that they had been adapted to a male audience.
On the play store I have trouble finding a game that isn't an excessive botnet by North Korean standards or a f2p that is trying to exploit addictions.
On steam the only issues is shovelware but even then finding something decent just by browsing the store isn't that hard.
>>318474914
(cont.)
Things were probably even more one-sided before the crash on the computer side.
>Games don't advertise to girlslol
>>318475298
god I miss early 2000s game ads
Girl here (inb4 fuck off, it's actually to show a perspective from a female gamer)
He's basically right and this thread once again is filled with hyperbolic bullshit to justify some pathetic outrage culture.
Girls like gaming, all my friends play games and I talk to coworkers and acquaintances about games.
The issue is that the vast majority of AAA and AA games are not aimed at or even marketed towards girls in any way this is why you don't see females lining up for PS4s and Xboxones.
With that said, there are ways to make games appeal to girls. Most of my friends love Borderlands. Most girls seem to love RPGs, Pokemon is a franchise I would be surprised if the majority of players are male. Every girl I know under 30 owns Pokemon merch and Pokemon games.
Most male gamers seem to have this bullshit idea that girls only like candy crush and shit, but that isn't true, its the presentation of games that is largely stopping girls from enjoying Dudebro CoD shooter alpha male bullshit.
You only need to look a the Tales of series to see a space that is almost exclusive the domain of females by the companies own statistics (80%) and thats a niche JRPG.
You can't just say "girls aren't interested in games" when 90% of the industry actively doesn't give a fucking shit about attracting a female audience to their games and often drives them away with such insane pandering to 13 year old boys with titties and intellectually insulting representation of female characters.
Maybe women play phone games because they own a phone? My sisters play games sometimes, but they can't be bothered to buy an expensive machine for it.
>>318475581
Why the fuck do you care, then? You get to play games.
I really am not seeing the problem here
>>318475581
>Comparing Call of Money to an actual game like Tales
CoD panders to literally people too dumb to do anything else.
>>318475581
>Girl here
Wishing to be the little girl does not actually make you the little girl.
>>318475581
>You only need to look a the Tales of series to see a space that is almost exclusive the domain of females by the companies own statistics (80%) and thats a niche JRPG.
Wrong.
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/06/23/sure-more-guys-may-play-tales-games-but-girls-buy-the-fan-goods/
>From surveys, Yoshizumi said 70% of the people that play Tales games are male and 30% are female. However, at stage events designed for fans, 95% of the attendees and goods are purchased by female customers. Iwata commented on the extreme difference in the market, which also surprised Yoshizumi at first.
In other words, men play the games more, but girls buy more merchandise and get more involved with the scene. You see the same pattern in oher parts of gaming where girls are really active in cosplay.
There's only really a few franchises that are really "dudebroesque" nowadays anyway, and they're like that because the huge amount of people who buy games like GTA5 and CoD probably wouldn't buy them if they had Tales aesthetics. Even more gender-neutral games like DOTA 2/LoL have a 90% male playerbase. The Wii U eShop has a 93% male consumerbase.
I'd honestly love more games like Tales, FF, Pokemon that appeal to girls and males, but it's not like developers are forcing things to be that way. They're just responding to demand.
>>318475581
>its the presentation of games that is largely stopping girls from enjoying Dudebro CoD shooter alpha male bullshit
Why don't many women like STALKER then?
Why don't many women like CS:GO then?
"" for Spec Ops: The Line, Reciever and many others.
None of these games are associated with masculinity in any way other than murdering large numbers of people.
The issue isn't anyone's fault in particular and it could take decades to change.
Yes, there are more girls playing games than ever. But that's only because of vidya's origins. It started as an exclusively nerdy niche hobby that just happened to not appeal to many girls. Then boys and games evolved together. Now they're more accessible, so normies (most girls included because they were never driven into autism-mode by loneliness like a lot of guys were) can get in on the fun. That's great - everyone should be able to play games. But we may never have as many female game-players as male because, again, they're almost never driven down as young children to seek refuge from socializing. Plus, for whatever reason, lots of girl NEETS pick up fanfiction and books instead.
Chances are there are nearly equal amounts of male and female normie "gamers", but the massively disproportionate amount of male NEETS seeking competition online where they can play out their needs against others without risking physical harm will always influence the "real" games' target demographic.
>the majority of gamers are female
>that's why the industry has failed to attract the female audience
Every time.
>>318476410
I really doubt there will ever be equal numbers of men and women playing FPS games. Men just love to murder more than women.
>>318416094
>0:27
>When it came time for a sequel the developers gave it a female main character.
>Ms Pac Man
Confirmed for not researching shit considering it wasn't even developed by the same fucking people as the original.
>>318476514
Pretty much. Men like to compete more than women, so there are more men in competitive gaming. Nothing wrong with that.
>>318476320
>They're just responding to demand.
A little from column a a little from column b.
It's basically a viscous cycle.
- Games are made for boys - Games are marketed towards boys - females think gaming isn't supposed to be for them - lack of large female demographic - "girls don't play games" - loop around back to games are made for boys.
The company that actually learns how to effectively make AAA games that females will enjoy and effectively market it to a female audience is going to make billions.
This is probably the biggest misstep with Final Fantasy 15, aesthetically appeals to Bishi's but gameplay wise is becoming too much of a dude bro third person ARPG.
>>318477126
>females think gaming isn't supposed to be for them
But they do. Look at how many of them play all sorts of mobile games, Wii Fit/Just Dance, all the shitty games that came out for the DS, The Sims, or Pokemon. They just have different tastes.
>>318416094
this guy sounds like he's in hell and specifically his personal hell is having to talk and act like a facebook-bait youtube persona
and like really thats the fucking pic of him they use for the banner? mouth open at all? its like they fucking know exactly the aesthetic that will piss me off
didnt watch the vid btw, only know of this guy from his obnoxious youtube ads
>>318477126
>Games are made for boys
How do you make a game for a boy? A girl? Do tell.
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