God Tier
>Fist
High Tier
>Sword and Board
>Buffing Spellsword
>Manipulation magic (illusion, alternation, etc.)
>Avoids combat stealth
Mid Tier
>Archer
>2 handed weapons
>Melee Stealth
>Spellslinging Spellsword
>Destruction Magic
Low Tier
>Dual Wielding (and not one of the above)
>Stealth Archer
>"Dark" Magic
Faggot Pussy Afraid of Combat Tier
>Summoner
Bard is on a tier of it's own below summoners.
Who the fuck sings in combat
>>318333804
>Who the fuck sings in combat
>not wanting to sing songs of your people that will lower your enemies morale and up yours
sounds fun to me
>>318334091
Sounds gayer than sucking dick desu senpai
Pretty gud, but even better than fistfighter is grappler.
Fistfighting classes never have grapples and it saddens me. I wanna suplex a goblin.Dorf is one of my favorite classes it all time. Punch, Throwing weapons and grapples all in one, with dual wielding hammers for style on top of it.
>>318333558
Fist/unarmed is undisputed god tier.
I think Duelwieldings position is dependant on what is being duelwielded.
Dueling wielding hammers or spears is swag, while duel wielding Katanas is dangerously faggoty.
>>318334270
That's one thing I love about Dwarf Fortress. The default form of unarmed combat is wrestling.
>>318334225
i am sure you are a walking authority when it comes to stuff like these anon
What game does summoning right?
>>318335141
two worlds two?
>>318335141
Terraria
>>318335141
I like ffx's summoning. It's a lot better than what it used to be. Although that really feels like it should be more of a sorceror thing considering it's a single strong beasts. Summoners should be summoning a lot of beasts to fight for them.
I just wish games did this with multiple enemy types, 95% of the games with summoning units just make necromancers and it's boring as shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
RPGs have tons of different spells and weapons and your preferred combat is barehanded faggotry? Get the fuck out of here.
Jotaro and Josuke are the worst Jojos.
>>318333804
>Who the fuck sings in combat
there's an entire anime that is based around that
that has 3 seasons (s1 takes time to get good, s2 is good all the way, s3 starts good and goes lame halfway into it)
>>318334513
>Duel wielding spears
Name 14 games that do this.
>>318335457
XIII-2's Pack system was pretty good.
POST GAMES WHERE I CAN PUNCH PEOPLEPC PLS
>>318335898
Are you talking about this?
>>318335993
Are their 14 Sengoku Basara games yet? Cause Yukimura is the only spear duel wielder I can think of off the top of my head.
>>318335584
Who are the best Jojos then?
>>318336496
All the Jojos are boring really. They have game-breaking stands but all they ever do is punch things really fast.
>>318336360
No, think more recent (season 1 was like 2011)
but Basara was the shit in SRW Alpha 3
>buffs an entire squad's will by 5
>Sound Booster upgrade makes that will up song INTO AN AOE BUFF
Everything in Blue is getting +5 will and then another +5 will on next turn because Basara's buff is going to be the first action
>>318335286
This. Stardust Dragon is a total bro.
>>318333558
What's wrong with spellswinging spellsword?
>>318334539
Oh fuck got 'em gwahaha
>>318334225
>>318334539
#rekt
Better question, name a game with good illusion magic? And I don't mean shit to avoid fights, I mean shit to distract them in the middle of a fight to fuck them up.
>>318335141
>"ctrl+f sacrifice"
man, this game. I felt like it was built really well but it was seemingly unpopular for whatever reason. could be a high learning curve or whatever; really fun, really did summoning an army battles right
>>318335141
Heritage for the Future
>>318333558
>High Tier
>Avoids combat stealth
>Faggot Pussy Afraid of Combat Tier
>Summoner
Am I being rused?
>>318338954
One is narrowly avoiding combat by the skin of their dick. It's constantly tense, and is more dangerous than fighting head on.
Summoners just run away like a bitch.
>>318333558
Elder God Tier
>Gunslinging with pistols
Worthless Shit Garbage Tier
>any other kind of gun use
>>318333804
>not wanting your bard play his nasheed of courage
pleb
>>318339240
>Using today's katana
>>318338683
Guild Wars 2's mesmer is pretty fun.
>>318339149
>One is a scared pussy
>The other is a scared pussy
Surely you're jeering and poking me in the teeth?
>>318339149
What about a summoner spellslinging spellsword?
>being a spell casting summoner
>not picking up a sword and fighting alongside your summons
Why can't more games do this? The only one I can think of is death knights from wow and their ghouls
>>318335584
I just want to play a class where I don't have to worry about finding a new codpiece of +24% mana regeneration or dildo sword of piercing 224-298 dmg every five fucking minutes
>>318333804
Nigga I'll fuck you up
Why do people like unarmed so much? It's literally
>punch
>punch a little harder than your normal punch
>punch a little faster than your normal punch with less damage
>punch with a status effect tacked on
>elemental punch
>>318339405
Today's katanas are revolvers, which are merely a subset of pistols.
>>318333558
>Crippling enemy damage output
>Healing your melee combat allies
>Protecting your ranged allies with an undead horde
>Removing immunities and increasing your party's damage potential
It's like you hate being the ultimate party support class while still having amazing solo capability.
>>318341959
It's even worse when you get the rare case of dual wielding revolvers
>>318335141
Would Geneforge count?
>>318341913
You're viewing things in an MMO/RPG aspect. Think more along the lines of an action hack n slash type of game. Doing strings of combos with satisfying punches is always fun
>>318336360
He's talking about symphogear
>>318341913
>RPGs where you get a hotbar for all your moves that you get to click and then see a cooldown timer
>>318342286
Yeah after I posted that I remembered godhand isn't that basically the absolute best game ever for unarmed combat?
>>318342406
Pretty much.
i always play games as a summoner while punching with my bare hands when possible, what does that make me?
>>318336674
>I haven't read 6, 7, or 8
>>318342286
>>318342402
There's ways to make a game work with different abilities. You don't have to limit yourself on RPG gameplay.
>>318342545
Either a summoner that's trying to hard to be one of the cool guys or a fist fighter who's always lonely
>>318342872
What about a spellcasting summoner who can summon flying creatures and throw down offensive magic spells?
Which game allows you to be a spellsword and does it well?
