THE BEAR. THE BULL. THE DIVIIIIDE.
THE BEAR and THE BULL
>the bear is the NCR
>the bull is the legion
>the divide is the fight between them
>post yfw
Worst part of New Vegas. Only edgelords and weed smokers think Ulysses is good.
>>318229556
>they're called the bull because they kek everyone they conquer
you must prep the bear
>>318229556
Why does he wear the mask?
>>318230152
cause he a ugly ass nigga under it
>>318230152
To get around engine limitations.
>>318229556
>there are people who STILL dont understand this character
>there are people who STILL dont understand the story of this DLC
>there are people who STILL think this DLC is shit
>there are people who STILL parrot THE BEAR AND THE BULL
baka
Say what you will about Ulysses but the Divide itself was fun as fuck to explore.
Obsidian did what Bethesdon't. They actually made a fun 'ground zero' sort of area.
>>318230260
That ain't him his eyes look totally different
>>318231196
The entire face and hair is part of the mask.
>>318231294
then why does he have a normal face when you take his mask off when looting him?
>>318230395
Everybody got it
People like you just think it's deep because ulysses uses big words
normal people think it's shit writing because ulysses uses big words like the writer was bragging with how convoluted he can write a monologue
STRENTH
>>318231770
I like him and I don't think he's deep
I like him because he is an unabashedly butt-fuck insane asshole
>>318231632
Because they couldn't make his face in the character editor.
Reminder that Ulysses was written by this guy.
>>318232463
I don't mean to say he's a bad character per se, his dialogue is just badly written as fuck.
It's why people take the piss with DA BURR DA BULL because that's actually exactly what he says.
>>318229556
HISTORY HISTORY HISTORY
I KNOW MY HISTORY. DO YOU KNOW YOUR HISTORY? HISTORY IS IMPORTANT. I LEARNED THE HISTORY OF THIS PLACE CALLED THE DIVIDE. KNOW YOUR HISTORY. I LIKE SAYING THE WORD HISTORY.
I think fallout is a pretty cool guy. Eh DA BURR DA BULL and doesn’t afraid of anything.
>>318232695
Ulysses was basically his self-insert.
>people trying to find meaning in trash drivel
Obsishitters, everyone.
>>318231632
because he doesnt need to talk when hes dead. his mouth doesnt actually move under the mask.
>>318233663
Yep
Like how Kreia is his self-insert where they made her seem completely right, Ulysses is his self-insert seen through the eyes of a person who is not bat-shit crazy
>>318231632
His entire head is a mask. Because they couldn't get the mask's lips to move, they threw on a respirator as another mask on top of his head mask.
>>318230395
It isn't difficult to see where they were going with the story.
It is just havin a giggle at the "Da Bears Da bulls." guy for being a little goofy.
>>318233793
mask mask mask
>>318233793
good ol' bethesda troll
>>318233693
>Obsishitters
You've proven that NV's writing is better than yours with this piss poor drivel. Obsidiots was right in front of you, you dumb fuck. I wouldn't even wish you on Reddit.
>>318233793
>>318234021
Gamebryo.
>THE POSTAL SYSTEM SENT ME A BOX OF DOG SHIT
>I'M GOING TO BLAME THE MAIL MAN
>>318234253
Yes you have deduced that he is petty, really pissed off, delusional, and insane
Good job
>>318234201
Oh god i completely forgot about how they made the metro work.
Gamebryo is completely fucking broken on a conceptual level.
>>318230152
no one cared until he wore the mask, anon
>>318234253
>"Blame you? No. Learned from you"
did you even finish it nigger
>Expect a massive Obsidian style dialogue showdown
>Completely linear dialogue tree, only something like 6 responses long
>You get him to do a complete 360 after a single check
>No other way to complete the conversation aside from "HURR I SMASH YOU NOW"
>tfw I just started playing this DLC today
DEUS VULT
>>318234460
I think it's more than Bethesda are just bad with it, or using it for a genre of game that it was never intended to run.
Gamebryo was used in Bully and Civ 4 with no issue.
>>318234201
>>318234460
i was kinda impressed actually, it's like making a nuclear-propelled carrier fly with only ducktape and chewing gum
>>318234201
It worked didn't it?
Would you have coded a fully functioning rail system for this?
That would have been a waste of manhours.
>>318235018
This.
>>318235018
this anon understands basic coding terms, and I agree.
>>318235018
>There is no other use for non static terrain other than the metro
you're right anon.
>>318235203
Hey, you are new into video games, aren't ya ? don't worry, just take a sit and shut the fuck up while grown people are talking.
>>318229861
>>318235018
Just like even shitty source style "walk up" ladders are a waste of man hours
>>318234253
Dude he's a tribal, what do you expect?
Probably can't even read.
>>318234492
Underrated post
>>318229556
Which villain was the bigger disappointment, this faggot or MGSV's Skull Face?
>>318235921
Skull Face was a villain ? come on ! he offered me a sweet ride in his Story-propelled Jeep
>>318235018
This, bethesta is lazy, but using tricks like that to save time is nothing to be ashamed of.
What the fuck is a bull? Why does this brahman only have one head?
>>318229556
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>>318229556
what were his motives?
revenge?
>>318236492
Fun.
>>318236290
What's a Falcon ?
>>318230295
Really?
>>318236492
He was super butthurt that the Courier was able to cause so much change to the world completely incidentally, which he (supposedly) did twice in the Divide (creating and destroying it), and once at the Mojave
He wanted to destroy something the Courier cared about, while allowing it to prosper under a symbol that's not just a ghost of the old world
Also he was crazy
>>318236492
He probably just wanted someone to talk to over the radio non-stop
It's probably pretty boring living in a razed crevice with only mutants for company
>>318232610
What was it supposed to be?
While I like his voice there has never been a character in vidya who bored me with their talking than this faggot.
Even on my first playthrough of LR whenever he would speak I'd just be like "wow cool when are you going to fuck off"
alright, can we all admit this game had bad DLC? lonesome road was just some poorly written pretentious guy full of purple prose acting like you slowly killed his entire race and literally pissed in their wounds, then ate their corpses one by one. not to mention the setting was like FO3 and as such was bland and tired.
owb was horrible SO RANDUMB teen humor crap, dead money was alright but exploring an empty casino wasn't much fun, and the entire outside sections were dreadful. honest hearts was boring as shit, only thing that made it worth playing was graham.
what happened? why was the base game so good but the DLC is almost not worth playing?
>>318236850
what's a Tie?
People still don't get Ulysses?
Are you all Americans or something? The guy literally spills his motives in the dialogue, it is not hard to understand him at all.
He is pretty fucking well written like all the DLCs in New Vegas or is it just a meme?
>>318237406
>owb was horrible SO RANDUMB teen humor crap
When's the last time you laughed at something that wasn't some retarded inside joke on 4chan? I really pity people like you
>>318232463
>>318237464
A twin ion engine, duh!
>>318237535
>He is pretty fucking well written like all the DLCs in New Vegas or is it just a meme?
What are you even trying to say? Is this a question? I stopped and read this like 5 times and I still can't decipher your cryptic message
>>318237581
Often, sorry if I don't enjoy bottom of the barrel teen humor like you.
>>318237406
>he thinks all the new vegas DLCs were garbage
they were all top fucking tier you idiot. people only call them shit in reference to other new vegas DLCs, not in an of themselves
disgusting taste
>>318237715
"He is pretty fucking well written like all DLCs in New Vegas. Or is it (BEAR AND BULL posting) just a meme?"
>>318237734
They're all shit, get some taste.
>>318237406
What the fuck dude ?
>>318237167
His face? They coudn't make it in the character editor so they made a mask of it.
>>318229556
Ulysses could have been such a bad ass.
The build up to lonesome road was incredible with all the holotapes and people talking about him then obsidian fucked up.
Inexcusable. Hope obsidian goes bankrupt
>>318236290
Edward was a fucking nerd when he was part of the Followers of the Apocalypse and he must have found pictures of the Roman and their coins. He stole that identity and use it as his.
Ulysses is better written then anything Bethesda has written since Oblivion.
>>318237535
>People still don't get Ulysses?
OP is shitting on New Vegas. What else is new?
>>318237535
Everybody gets him, anon. It's just that no one cares because he's overbearingly pretentious and overwhelmingly boring.
Plus the DLC itself was linear and mundane.
>>318237406
shittest taste of all
>tfw havn't played Lonesome Road yet
I-I guess I'll show myself out.
>>318238174
>Bethesda
>>318238174
I really love Oblivion, but what the fuck was well written about it? No character or conflict comes to mind.
Obsidian wrote themselves into a corner with Ulysses, there was no real way they could've met all the hype surrounding him, and all the implications about how he was some big chessmaster who knew shit. Especially considering the engine limitations they had to work with.
Which is a shame, it would've been a fitting ending to NV DLC, would've been nice to have much, much more Divide to explore though, that world-design was good shit.
>>318238312
The Dark Brotherhood was kind of fun.
>>318234201
I wonder if they used the same trick in Oblivion (since it uses the same engine). Think about it, the horses are just animated hats that are worn by unnamed NPCs that walk on a plain just below the map. It's the same thing as the metro car. The difference, when you activate the horse, an animation of you getting it plays, but really the engine just copies your character and then the horse item has a copy of you sitting on the horse.
Maybe that's why there was no horse combat in Oblivion.
>>318238263
Prove me wrong. All four DLCs get a lot of criticism, and yet when someone criticizes all four at once somehow all of that doesn't apply anymore and is "wrong"? Fuck off shit eater.
>>318229804
I liked this guy a lot on Stargate Atlantis.
>>318238281
>that image
I don't e ven
>>318237535
He's an interesting character no doubt, but that doesn't mean he isn't completely wrong on all accounts
He's literally never right
>>318237406
>Bad dlc
Dead money was a good "survivalist playthrough" dlc it challenged those fags who only used guns. The exploring aspect was only one part but that dlc was more about just getting the loot. I agree honest hearts was kinda weak but I appreciate how they tied in Native American shit. Old world blues was good, it paid homage to old sci fi and I like how it emphasized a energy playthrough. Lonesome road was just good in how it tied things together and was challenging. NV had the best DLC because each one was conducive to a unique playthrough and had interesting characters.
>>318238639
underageb& detected
>>318238784
>mfw I'm playing dead money right now and I wasted my pistol bullets thinking I would get more
Still, it doesn't feel too much hard since I can buy a fuckton of stimpaks. It feels more tedious than challenging, does it get better once you enter the casino?Yes, this is my first playthrough.
>>318237894
What was it supposed to be?
>>318239240
If you're not enjoying Dead Money by the time you enter the casino you probably won't enjoy it at all anon.
The casino is pretty haunting though when you're just wandering around it.
>>318239240
You're probably gonna fucking hate it until you playthrough it a second time with a basic understanding of where to go and what to do so more time can be spent appreciating it and less time can be wasted wondering what the fuck is going on.
At least, that's how it seems to go for a lot of people.
>>318239260
>>318239240
Have fun with the 'basement'
>>318229556
COURIER IT WAS ALL YOUR FAULT WHY DID YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR JOB COURIER OF THE BEAR?
>ulysses could have been a cool character if his dialogue wasn't completely fucking retarded in terms of both writing and acting
>>318239240
Why didn't you buy ammo you faggot instead of buying stimpacks. The ghost people aren't that hard to manage. Learn to cripple limbs with shots, it's an instant kill.
>>318239351
I'm just pissed they never let you go back to it. I mean, you shouldn't need too, but it's a really cool setting. Luckily the bunker has a vending machine thing, but I'd still like to go back and explore more of the area to make sure I saw everything. Especially with decent equipment and without the fear of my head exploding.
>>318238312
Literally everything about New Vegas was well-written. Yes, even Ulysses. He was long-winded, repetitive and delusional because that's his fucking character. Hate him all you want, hes a very distinct character that has clearly drawn strong opinions from just about everyone in this thread.
And that's the result of good writing. An annoying and insane character, written very well.
>>318239240
>Hit ghosts in arm with a baseball bat
>Instant kill
So hard
>>318239240
nigger, I got to dead money once I got to lvl 12
either you are really bad or underleveled as shit
>>318240161
>Literally everything about New Vegas was well-written
I like to dickride NV as much as any other guy but come on son
>>318240146
>mfw forgetting the snow globe
on my first playthrough of new vegas and just finished honest hearts, what decisions did you guys make?
I spared the leader, got the sorrows to join the fight and told follows chalk to stay and help his people. If I played it again I'd probably tell the sorrrows not to fight and tell chalk to experience civilization.
>>318240674
>ever siding with daniel
anon please
>>318234854
>ducktape
>>318240462
Benny and his quest/connections were great
Legion was great
NCR was great
House was great
Companions were spectacular
Locations around Vegas were great
DLC was spectacular
I mean you could probably nitpick some little NPC dialogue or a few locations that got neglected because of time constraints but as a whole it was terribly well-written.
>>318240674
Same as you senpai although I already finished it some 6 days ago and have since been running around in a set of Dead Horse stalker armour.it just looks so fuckin sexy on my qt courier right now, just about popping boners from looking at her.
>>318240146
I got like 50 weapon repair kits and a shit ton of stims, this DLC broke the game for me.
10/10 writing, it has a valuable lesson for us, letting go is hard. how many gold bars did you guys get in the end?
>>318240985
>Legion was great
Even the Jsawyer admits that the Legion got shafted and is pretty much an unfinished mess that takes the edge a little too far
>>318241318all 37 gold bars
>>318241356
I love NV to death, but this anon is right. Maybe with all the cut content surrounding them would they be great, but they're just hollow edgelords as it stands.
>>318241318
I took 3, that was the max I could get without cheating. I never sold them, I just put them up on a shelf with some Sierra Madre chips. It's not about greed, it's about remembering the lessons you learned there with tangible objects.
The idea will fade slowly, but you can always pick up one of the bars to realize the pettiness of much of humankind's existence. Before the war men fought and died for that metal. They even destroyed the world for that chunk of shiney metal. Now it sits, desired, but only worth a fraction of what it used to be worth; an interesting oddity from a world that died long ago.
fuck ulysses and his shitty philosophy. i only spared him for the rockets and mres.
>>318241318
First time round 5, second, third, fourth and fifth times round I took every single one. I understood the message but then after that I was looking for ways to get that shit outta there and on-sell them back to the Mojave for use in other more profitable ventures. Also giving a gold bar or two to Doc Mitchell, Sunny, Easy Pete and Sunny never hurts to do.
>>318241318
All of em. Just needed some stealthboys and I snuck out to the door without being discovered.
>>318241949
Oh shit I forgot about the main lady herself, I slipped her an extra bar and some ammunition just because I can.
>>318231965
>ctrl+f "strenth"
>>318241356
Except not. The Legion makes sense, it is only not shown in the game by visual, only by dialogue.
Even Cass mentions the good sides of the Legion.
The Legion was unfinished, yeah, but once you actually go through the dialogues you'll see how they are not edgy at all. They only seem edgy at first.
>>318241653
same here, 3 and I had to leave a lot of shit behind. never sold them too, I took them as a souvenir.
>...The battle between the two couriers, beneath the torn skies and the Old World flag... each bearing a message for the other.
this fucking phrase makes me shiver for some reason
Please tell me we are gonna get another obsidian Fallout game. Its a dam shame that Obsidian doest have the recognition it deserves outside of /v/
Also why are they always rushed? NV, AP, Kotor2 all rushed but all amazing games.What would you guys think if they made a TES game?
>>318230152
He damaged his respiratory system and relies on it to breath properly, however he can breathe without it, but it would be painful.
>>318242340
>but it would be painful.For you.
>>318242237
>it's not completely fucking retarded or entirely morally depraved so that means it's great writing
Are you using Fallout 3 as the standard here or something?
>>318229556
i hated ulysses so much, i was glad to fire all 90-some plasma grenades out of my unique 40mm grenade machinegun at that fucking faggot
>The tunnelers are still going to fuck the Mojave no matter what
On another note what are some good quest mods for New Vegas? I just finished the Bounty series and now I'm going beyond Boulder..
>>318229556
That's neat, hold still
>>318242312
>Its a dam shame that Obsidian doest have the recognition it deserves outside of /v/
>What is No Mutant Allowed
>What is RPG Codex
>>318242237
>not edgy at all
>crucifies an entire town because muh drugs, muh prostitution
>>318237406
Kill yourself
who is best companion?
and why is it ED-E?
>>318229556
>hype up this mysterious character since the fucking vanilla game long before the even the first DLC released
>no one is satisfied at all with his actual appearance
Woooooooow
>>318243810
>Fly far! Fly fast!
who /epicpopculturereferences/ here?
>>318243810
>that victory music it plays everytime a battle ends
You based little fucker.
>>318241318
I took all of them. I understood the message the DLC was trying to get across but from a roleplaying perspective I pretty much said fuck it and took what I worked hard for, Elijah can burn in hell, I got my rightful payment.
>>318242312
Only time will tell in regards to that I'm afraid. We can only hope that Todd will be merciful and allow them to develop another one.>We may never get memorable characters like Joshua Graham and Randall Clarke again
>>318242312
Probably. Both companies are on good terms with eachother and New Vegas sold well enough. Ignore the retarded memers that like to stir up shit it's definitely a possibility.
>>318244090
I loved it but then
>>318244012
>dramatic slow and sad version
farewell little fella
>>318244156
one of the things that motivated me through all dead money is to blow his brains off, and as a plus I got an early gauss rifle (I was at a low level)
>>318244547
I locked him in the vault and told Veronica. It was worth it alone for some extra dialogue.
Killed him first chance I got.
Fuck that insane, self righteous asshole. I only wish there were more chances to point out how fucking petty and retarded his line of thinking is
>I-I-I'm not butt hurt about you destroying the divide I swear! M-m-muh Bear, muh Bull mothafucka...
>>318236291
Dope raps by Ulysses, mang.
>>318229556
YOU LIKE THE SIGHT OF YOUR OWN BLOOD?
>>318244298And as the good lord said, "you are now reading this in my voice".
>>318240146
>forgot the stalker's letter to vera
>forgot some other misc crap I can't recall at the moment
fuck
>more misc item clutter I can't get rid of because le quest item flag
FUCK
>>318229556
BEAR BULL BEAR BULL BEAR BULL
CAESAR DINDU NUFFIN
BEAR BULL BEAR BULL BEAR BULL
MUH DIVIDE
great character Obsidian.
