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Who the fuck is in charge of playtesting the shit Fromsoft produces?
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Who the fuck is in charge of playtesting the shit Fromsoft produces?

>lmao hey let's make a boss that has huge range
>and huge damage
>and aoe
>and a shitton of health
>and it only attacks in combos
>and it barely gives you room to breathe
>and you can't stick close to it because it just fucks off after smacking you twice
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i dont get it, ludwig is easy ive never had trouble with him
orphan of kos though? now that boss is fucking relentless
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>>318201559
lel git gud
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>>318201559
m8 there's actually a trick to beating ludwig you just have to _____________________________________________________git gud_______________
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>>318201559
would you describe your experience as nightmarish in nature?
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>>318202390
FUCK YOU CUNT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO BEAT THIS RAPE HORSE FOR LIKE 2 HOURS STRAIGHT, I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE
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>>318201559
git gud
The DLC is designed for characters around BL80.
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>>318201738
>orphan of kos
I don't think anyone will be able to unhear his screams.
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Fuck off DSP. How do people still watch your vids? I was subscribed to you around 2008-2010 and I can't believe I actually liked your content.
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>he is still stuck at Ludwig
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>>318202534
Would you say your voice is HORSE from yelling at the TV so much?
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>Actually over 40+ tries on Orphan
>Helping other people fight it and win usually
>People summoned to my world die in the first 2 minutes and leave me with a stronger dmg sponge.
I'm never going to beat it. I'm BL 180 and on NG++++. Fuck me.
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>>318201559
>beat him and Orphan my first try

And I'm shit at vidya. Git gud faggot
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Yo anyone wanna help a dude out with laurence?
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DSP will never live down the Horse rape. Not to sure why he's always posting on /v/ though.
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DSP browses /v/?
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>>318201559
Get fucking good you fag
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>>318203020
>mfw ophan of kos 32 tries and counting
>last 5 or so I tried to summon
>everyone sucks
>get one guy that knows his shit
>die when the boss is 10% or less

Absolute dispair, I've killed him as a Confederate buddy tho. I'm currently lv100 NG+.
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>>318203020
walk forward, bait jump attack, backstab, repeat
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>>318203431
Yup, I've gotten him low countless times, only for his non-existent recovery frames to kick in. Gotta keep trying I guess, but it's getting old fast.

>>318203446
I'll try this. Hopefully it works, but every time I stagger him, he immediately goes into another attack. Can't seem to get the parrying time right, and he's always attacking.
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Who /pizzacutter/ here?
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>>318203847
>>318203847
When I switched to this I killed orphan of kos first try, the L2 is crazy OP on him, he'll almost always try to jump away so you just dodge and repeat.
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>>318204991
How do you get it to hold like that?
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>>318207748
I also meant to quote >>318204991

But yeah pizzacutter wrecks the orphan.
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>>318207973
L2
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>>318201738
this mother fucker

3 HOURS THREE FUCKING HOURS LAST NIGHT TRYING TO KILL THIS FAGGOT
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If you think Ludwig is hard you wont stand a chance against Orphan.
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>>318201738

Orphan was the only boss that killed me, but he killed me repeatedly.
Everything about him is practically perfect, from his moveset, his evasive poke that he is fucking on point with, to the worshippers outside the coast, to both the weird feelings of pity, fear, and disgust I got from him.

Easily 10/10.
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>>318209770

The entire area was perfect.
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>>318206035

>co-op
>using most powerful possible cheese combination
>against a boss who isn't even that hard

wew lad, you sure showed us.
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>small resonant bell working just fine
>I haven't got one summon with the beckoning bell the entire day

Anyone else having this problem?
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>>318201738
easy parry
>>318201559
watchdog fight v2. irritating in NG++ but manageable. second phase is simple, unlock and R1 spam.
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>>318209770
>>318210198
I couldn't agree more, just to add that Fishman Hemlet is probably the coolest looking area in all souls games, until you find out just how small it really is.
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So I stopped being a salty PC faggot and got myself a ps4 with this during black friday. Should I just get the DLC now or will it be pointless since I've only really just started playing. Also how is the online community?
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>>318210985
No, because I don't summon.
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As expected this board is full of casuals
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>Finally kill Orphan


>Still utterly stuffing with Laurence

Why the fuck does this guy have such huge aoe, range, and health? And why the fuck does an off hand swip from him hurt more than a psychotic cosmic horror offspring leaping from across the arena while slamming into me?
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>>318201559
Just roll through it.
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>>318211482
Wow, this must be the best player I've ever seen.
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>>318211392
Online is quiet but reliable. And the community is as in every other soul esque game utter shit.
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>>318211392
No real point in waiting. Do it any time after Vicar Amelia and any time before Mergo's Wet Nurse.
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>>318201559
you're the exact reason souls games are getting worse every year

ludwig has been the first really good boss since artorias

stick to fucking skyrim next time
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>>318212093
Ludwig is in my opinion not in par with artorias. Ludwig wasn't as aggressive and easy to stagger. Orphan of kos fits the picture of artorias more. Ludwig would be more of a gwyn type of battle you still have openings to heal but its always risky.
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>>318212574
except ludwig is fun and gwyn was a fucking disappointment
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Blame the Xbros and PC dipshits that came along with Dark Souls and turned difficulty into a meme.
"Lel le sun bros kek lol JOLLY COOP" Ruined what could have been a wonderful franchise.
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>>318212682
Well cant really say ludwig had that much to write home about. Just had to do the old giant circumcision trick with him and it was done. He did have a badass soundtrack and design. But so did gwyn
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This image!
What game does that thing come from? Cause it scares the shit outta me.
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>>318212727
more like blame bamco, you dumb faggot
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>>318213074
Demon Souls, fucking read the thread asshole.
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>>318201559
Looks like you have a classic case of the git guds
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>>318210985
Yeah, I've been having that issue. Don't know what's causing it. Might be my high Blood Level, but I don't know. Can't seem to find people at all using Beckoning Bell.
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>>318211392
Bloodborne is set up in a way where there's usually a lot you can do at any given time. The amount of optional bosses is a lot higher than you expect when doing them, and the DLC fits into the base game well because of this. Like a lot of paths, if the DLC is too hard when you open it, then continue on with other parts of the game until you can handle it. There are like 7 new weapons available before the first boss of the DLC, so worst case it's probably great to just suicide run around and pick up as much shit as you can. I'd buy it with the game if I were buying it for the first time now.
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>>318203226
is he still using his NG? or is he already on NG+?
didnt watch him struggle yet
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>>318213762
NG+

he ragequit the DLC completely a few days ago

61 attempts and he still couldn't do it
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>>318209465
>>318201559
>>318201738

Good. Spending hours on bosses is what I like and expect from games like this. It would've been extremely disappointing 1 or 2 shotting every boss in the dlc
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Anybody else felt that Laurence was way harder? Spent more than a day on him at ng+++. Took me only 3 tries for Orphan. Laurence fucking schooled me on being above gitgud.
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>>318214573
Same, still having trouble with Laurence after like an hour of trying. I only died twice against Orphan and those are the only two bosses I've lost against.
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>>318201559
>being this shit
I beat him on my first try
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>>318213762
Like a lot of people, he beat the game and got booted to NG+. There was no way he was going to restart a new character just for the DLC, especially considering he tends to just grind off-screen to get past most of the game which would be a huge timesink. Also with the duping he did the first time around patched out, he's not gonna spend the time to delete the like 8GB of patch data, dupe, redownload the patch, etc. Way more work than he's willing to put into something he can't stream.

So he picked up his fresh NG+ character, facetanked his way through the early bosses with Ludwig's Holy Blade to access the DLC, and then proceeded to get absolutely destroyed by Ludwig. I don't even remember him trying to get behind him. He mostly just walked up to his face, started swinging, and then complained when he can't dodge and eats shit. It straight up broke him. It was like Dark Souls 2 all over again, where he walked through the game throwing brokenly overpowered lightning bolts (that was a fun time) and then had a bitchfit when the mirror knight's shield bounced them. At least there he could break down and summon phantoms to trivialize the fight.
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>2015
>not maining pizza cutter
I shiggy diggy
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>>318215716
kek, he actually duped?

can you prove it?
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>>318201559

Do you observe the distance between you and him? That distance dictate which attack he's going to make. Most veterans position themselves on a distance where can they bait the attacks that they can punish easily. Ludwig has several telegraphed moves so observe you fucker, I've seen people punish the high tracking move with a well timed forward I-frame quickstep + R1 then disengages, also observe his sword hand on the second phase. He's is not the fastest boss on the DLC so stop making anymore excuses and GIT GUD.
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>>318215765
I don't want to trivialize the game.
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>>318213253
What you think I actually read the name of the webm file?
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>>318215996
Damn, I waited all this time for that answer?
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>>318215765
i think the dlc gave us many good weapons

cant even decide which weapon should be my favorite

just want to have fun with all of them
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>>318216236
Seriously lurk more you daft fucker. I don't even own the console this game is on but I know what they're talking about.
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>>318215836
He swears he didn't, but the day the dupe was discovered and he started recording again he'd jumped like 40 levels.

It doesn't really matter whether he legitimately grinded or duped. Duping would have been a lot smarter, so that's less of an insult.
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>>318216430
It was all a ruse? Thats all you can come up with?
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Help

Pls

What's a good strategy? I've found it's easier to stab his ass if you don't lock on but there's a shitton of AoE attacks and his swipes have ridiculous range
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>>318216629
>Not embracing the beast
Its like you want to lose.
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>>318216573
oh, just dews then

When I heard dupe, I assumed blood chunks.
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>Defiled Amygdala
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>>318216573
there's no way he grinded to level 90 before blood starved beast
most people are level 60-70 when they finish the game
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>>318216629
Hug his ass, phase 2 is pretty easy
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>>318216590
Yes.
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>>318216957
>level 90 before blood starved beast

kek
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OH MY GOOOOD MARIA IS FUCKING GREAT
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>>318217010
You're pretty pathetic kid.
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>>318217196
That song, holy fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rdt5XNvPkc
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>>318216236
Well yeah, what other answer would you have wanted me to say?
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>>318204991
I will be when I get to that point in the DLC. Just entered it today, for the first time, on a fresh character and was having a tough time so I'm grinding a bit to level up. Was 35 at the time.

I want to try it with some arcane/fire gems.
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lol at casuls in this thread, git gud
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>>318217374
Why the fuck was this chick playing dead anyway?
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Bloodborne is spooky
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I finally beat that faggot Lawrence. What a fucking bullshit enemy.

LETS MAKE IT SO EVERY ATTACK HE HAS IS OVER 200 DEGREES IN SWIPES. LETS ALSO MAKE IT DEAL A SHITLOAD OF DAMAGE EVEN WITH DEFENSIVE BUFFS. LETS ALSO MAKE HIM DO COMBOS THAT HE NEVER STOPS SPAMMING. LETS ALSO GIVE HIM AOE EXPLOSION MOVES. LETS ALSO MAKE IT SO THAT AFTER HE IS ABOUT TO DIE, IN SPLITS IN HALF AND LEAVES LAVA ALL OVER THE FLOOR.

Like.. why man? It isn't even a challenge, it's just annoying as fuck to have to deal with.

I had slightly more trouble with Kos, but Lawrence is just fucking trash. I only beat him because I got lucky.
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>>318217453
it's in the first area
you can just run and pick it up
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>>318217426
idk, something about how that boss is a ripoff of some demons souls boss or how some dev said that boss wass for DeS in some nonexistant interview, anything but "haha I was just kiddin"

No harm done, I just wanted you to shitpost better thats all.
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Someday, I'd really like someone to take all the great monster design and atmosphere from these games and made a decent book/film out of it.
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people who are pissed about the DLC and bloodborne being too hard in general are the same people who said "Drk Suols 2 was 2 eaz 4 me"

the game is supposed to be hard as fuck, dlc is always know in fromsoft games to be twice as hard as the main game. The game has a high ass skill cap where even the best struggle beating the game. You complaining and getting angry is what Fromsoft wants, i guess they did a good job
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I want to get the DLC but I also don't want to fucking play it up to Vicar Amelia again because I'm lazy
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>>318217640
I'll have to look around when I go back to the DLC stuff then.
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>>318217716
The DLC is for level 70+ bro
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The buzz saw probably still isn't as good as the Holy Blade, but it's at least a 2H option for people who want to leave skill low. Even with an S scaling, it doesn't really match Ludwig's two Bs, but I'd guess the reason for that is it probably has serrated damage resulting in a lot more damage against beast bosses.

I do like having a one-handed mace instead of a sword though. In fact I really really like the Amygdalan Arm's normal mode. It's a shame it's not actually a 2H weapon when transformed and the split damage kills its output potential.
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>>318217716

Vicar Amelia is the 2nd mandatory boss of the game. Jesus Christ, man up and do it.
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>>318217196
They should have not made her parryable

Ruined the fight
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What's with Ludwig's head?
I feel pity for the guy but there are lots messages around to kill it.
And I'm also worried that I might miss some future dialogue or some shit later on if I talk to him.
What do, /v/?
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anyone else get False King Allant hype from Maria? one of the best fights from the series in a long time
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>>318218751
>They should have not made her parryable

So she could sit back and spam AoE slashes with no repercussions? Parries are there for skill players to be able to do damage against bosses that don't stagger easily from weak skill weapons.

There's a reason viscerals scale better with skill than strength.
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>>318218963
You can talk to him while wearing any form of church garb, and he'll ask you some shit and you can comfort him and you'll realize it's been by your side all along.

Or you can just kill it and get the same end result.
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>>318219054
Yeah I know, but it feels cheapt to just kill her with 4 viscerals.

Guess it balances out on other fights because of what weapons SKL has acces to
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>>318219178
>Or you can just kill it and get the same end result.

No mercy for beasts desu
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>>318219178
Neat, I'll do it later tonight and kill leave the fucker afterwards. I just feel sorry for the guy.
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>>318219301
You miss out on his dialogue though
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>>318219547
I think you have to kill the head soon to progress a quest line with a certain npc

could be wrong
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Maybe I'll beat him tonight.
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>>318218751
They probably just needed to adjust the windows or make it only specific animations. The fact she's so fucking fast is ultimately her downfall. There's no wind-up, so if she's attacking she's getting fucking parried. You don't even have to try.
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>>318219572
Damn, that church garb thing always gets me, I also couldn't get the stupid church cunt to come to Oedon Chapel either.
It was pretty satisfying crushing his head after all the shit he made me go through.
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>>318219683
The only non-hostile NPCs you have to kill are the 2 giant sack head blobs for brain fluid, and the guy banging his head on the wall for his armor. Also Brador, but I think at least he gives you a good reason to kill his ass.

I talked to Ludwig instead of killing him, and got everything else in the DLC just fine.
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>>318218585
3rd, you need to do either Cleric or BSB
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>>318219049
She's bloodtinge-Gherman
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>>318220146
oh so Harrowed Hunter will still progress even without killing head?
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>>318220519
He kills it and gives you the blade if you talk to him?
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>>318220519
I missed him at like half of his locations and he still ended up dead at the fishing hamlet dropping the bowblade and key. I think you basically just have to talk to him once anywhere for it to happen. You can even go to where he dies to get the key, then go back to the very first spot he's in and talk to him, then go all the way back to find him dead where he should be.

As far as I know, the only progression blocker would be attacking him.
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>>318220280
No you don't, the emblem lets you skip it. Then climb up the ladder to the left in the plaza.
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>>318220519
Worked fine for me, went back sometime later to speak to Ludwig and found him dead with the sword on the ground.
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>>318219049
>that entire third phase
>Me with BB snd OHB
we anime now
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>>318221585
The emblem doesn't actually show up in the shop until you have the badge from the cleric beast. Most people don't realize that because who's gonna bother skipping cleric beast anyway.
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>>318203431
why are you only level 100 on NG+? I'm still on NG and I'm at BL 110
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>>318221585
you either need to kill BSB to open the door to the elevator
or kill cleric beast to get the emblem
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>>318222027
BL 110 on NG is overleveled. 60~80 is optimal for NG.
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>>318222027
I always keep a lowl evel, I never went past 120 but also never finished NG++
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>>318215765
whoa, how do you do the thing where you just keep it in front of you spinning? I've been using it for awhile and never knew you could do tlhat
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>>318222369
Hold L2
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>>318222369
Hold L2
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>>318222506
>>318222518
well shit i never thought of that. thanks
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>>318201559
just summon whirlygigbro and he'll wreck hard, I just gave up and summoned him and he ended up getting the final visceral attack on ludwig.

it seems the dlc is hard as shit in even NG+ and above, I'm actually considering starting from scratch with a fresh character...
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>>318201559
Fuck you, that fight was great. It wasnt even that hard.

I loved almost all the boss fights, even living failures. Dat Meteor attack.

But...

I FUCKING DESPISE LAURENCE. I PLAYED THE DLC AT NG+++, I SOLO'ED ALL OF THE BOSSES, BUT LAURENCE IS A FUCKING DAMAGE SPONGE.
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OFFICIAL OLD HUNTERS BOSSES DIFFICULTY RANKINGS

1. Ludwig (1st form)
2. Maria (2nd form)
3. Orphan (2nd form)
4. Ludwig (2nd form)
5. Maria (1st form)
6. Living Failures
7. Orphan (1st form)

Orphan was the only boss in the DLC that I one shotted, but it was down to the wire. Ludwig beat my ass over and over though. He's the only boss in the game counting vanilla that I had to summon help, and it was just to survive his first form.
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Can someone help me with laurence? Please?
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>>318224952
What level?
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>>318201848
lel no argument.
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>>318225159
like 83, but it wont matter for password
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>>318202307
There's a trick to arguments... avoid fallacies.
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>>318225260
I'll give you a hand, pick a password. I keep forgetting about that level scaling, that's some convenient shit.
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>>318225404
Well fuck me man, I just got a dude that nearly killed him by himself. I maybe got less than 10 hits in. Thanks though for trying to help me out though, can't tell you how long I've been banging my head against this dude
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>>318217628
Reminds me of DaS2's enemies. All that tracking and aoe makes it so that every fight is a boring chore of just waiting for combos to end. If the DLC is like that I just won't bother. The base game is good enough.
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>>318225623
Aw well, at least you got him.
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>>318201559
Finally beat him after like the millionth try. Solo level 80 on NG with +9 Ludwig's sword. Seriously fuck this nigga. Killed his head immediately for the moonlight sword. Is it supposed to rest on the hunter's shoulder because it just kind of hovers above.
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>>318201559
Sounds like you should giiiiiiiiiit guuuuuuuuud, son.
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>>318201559

>people still complaining about Ludwig

Oh man I cant wait until you make it to the Orphan
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>>318224675
Bitch please, Maria is easy as fuck even without parries, Orphan was easily the hardest.

The Sea Giants though...
FUCK THOSE ANCHOR SWINGING FAT FAGGOTS.
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Defiled Chalice was the only place I summoned help, cuz that shit aint fair.
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>>318226498
Life gets a lot easier when you realize you can parry those fuckers.
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>>318217574
Fucking Europe
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all these people.... in this thread... they're actually discussing bloodborne.. meaning they actually own a PS4...... my fucking god.... how did it come to this?
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>>318226498
Orphan's second form was pretty frantic, but the parry windows on his first form are laughable.
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>>318226720
>Not owning a Playstation every gen

Do you just hate video games?
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>>318217565

She's dead.

Note the blood dripping down her clothes from her neck, suggesting a slit throat and the coffin behind her.

The real Maria is dead, she's a nightmare echo like Laurence.
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>>318226720
You enjoying that $1,000 indie Machine? Maybe if you sign that petition you'll get to experience BB
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>>318226936
I want her weapon.
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From games need a boss rush mode so bad. I don't want to play all the way up again to fight Maria. I just want to fight her again and again
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>>318227276

Good luck getting it from the sharkmen, took me 2 hours to get it.
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>>318227335
knowing that it exist is good enough for me.
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>>318215765
I switch between that and the Rakuyo depending on the situation.
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>>318227289
Ring dat bell, man. Helping scrubs out and letting them get some good hits in is always fun too. I love getting off a parry and letting them get the visceral.
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>>318227289
Play DaS2. That game is literally boss rush the game.
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>>318227335
>>318227517
bring a shaman bone blade, use it on the first one when its walking away to draw the attention of the other one when it drops down
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I couldn't beat Kos on my new game save so I played the entire game on NG+ and I beat him on my first try. Felt so good.
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Where can I reliably get a used PS4 in the greater LA area, that isn't from craigslist? For $250 or less?
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>>318201559
Maria>Orphan>Ludwig>>>Living Failures>>>shit>>>Laurence
Maria wasn't difficult, but was by far the funnest fight
Failures were too easy
Ludwig and Orphan took me maybe 2-3 tries
but fuck Laurence
>>318203431
>first try on NG+
>summon 2 people
>start up the fight
>they both instantly die so now I have to fight him solo with double hp
got him, but it took so fucking long with all that hp
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>Want to use a cool weapon like Saif
>It means that my guns are fucking pea-shooters and pretty useless
>Want to use cool guns to their maximum effectiveness
>It means that I am stuck using the Chikage, unless I use shitty Bloodletter 1-handed or the Bow 1-handed

Help famm
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>>318206035
>queen killer
dude is tarkus 2.0
he soloed my defiled chalice watch dog
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>>318227974
They're going for $300 on sale now, so that shouldn't all that hard to find.
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>>318228169
Be comfortable not getting max damage out of your weapons.
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>>318228421
Cant do that famm....

There is literally only one viable bloodtinge weapons (besides the 2h bloodletter, which cant reliably use guns). And that weapon happens to be the edgelord katana

hurts me hard fammmm desu ka
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>>318228601

>What is Reiterpallasch

Also

>Bloodtinge build
>Implying the weapons wouldnt be Edgy
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>>318201738
watch my ultra-shitty attempt that somehow managed to beat him

jesus christ im sweaty, just did this a few minutes ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If_R3uKaKKc

BL 85, NG
40 VIT, 50 STR
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I can't fucking get Laurence to aggro, what's going on?

He's just sitting there
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>>318201738
If you are really aggressive and dodge after every hit that you connect, he really isn't that hard
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>>318229526
>that close call after he transforms

Holy shit, your heart must have been racing. Such a good fight.
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>>318201559
>>and you can't stick close to it because it just fucks off after smacking you twice
Pleb. That's literally the strat. Just dodge straight into his face and he's a cake walk.

Dodge as you usually would when he enters sword phase.
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>>318229929
Go back later.

>>318230021
You don't need to dodge after every hit, he actually has very little poise. 3 hits with the Beast Cutter meant I got a free 4th hit, and it only took 2 with the Holy Moonlight Sword.
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>>318230086
i had so many better attempts where i perfect-dodged all of his attacks down to a quarter of his health, but then he'd wombo-combo me with his acid throws and thrash me to death.

>>318230247
i tried him again right before i beat orphan, is there something else?

pretty much all of the close calls in that video are from me being an idiot and/or too tired and sweaty to dodge properly
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>>318230358
>is there something else
You need a certain item.
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>>318230358
You never got the balcony key in the Research Hall, huh?
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>>318230415
i mean i've beaten the entire dlc and i'm at the end of the main game, gehrmann is under the tree waiting for me. what item could it be?
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>>318229252
>Reiterpallasch
Is that shitter even worth a damn? I used it a short while before getting the Chikage, but never got the feel for it.
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>>318216848
Hug his tail phase 3 and its gg. He will just try jumping and stomp. Never will hit.
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>>318230460
no i did not, i'll keep lookin. i'm there now.
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>>318230518
It's pretty good, just a little boring. Mainly used for Cannon-counters though.
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I couldn't beat Kos my first time through the game so I decided to just beat the main game and come back later during a NG+ run. When I finally got to Kos again I could really feel how much I had improved. Killed him first try with the club version of the pizza cutter around level 115
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Im level 155 and Laurence and the final 3 chalice dungeon bosses are not taking a shit ton of damage. Does level have to do with anything?
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>>318212093
Bosses being fucking broken doesn't automatically make them good.
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>>318230937
What NG?
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>>318231054
Ng+1
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>>318214853
No you didn't.
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>>318231102
You are way overleveled for NG+1.
It muat be the Gems in your weapons
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GIT
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>>318201559

>mfw he pulls out the moonlight sword and enters his 2nd form
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I agree with every complaint you just made... about Laurence, though. Ludwig is fine.
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>>318231237
>overleveled
Because no one should ever want to actually upgrade their character
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>>318230937
Level means more in BB than DaS.
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>>318224336

Agreed. Like any other boss you end up getting used to depleting their health to the 50% mark or second form, but his last phase crawling around spewing lava is so frantic and hard not get stunlocked in. Def the most maddening of the Old Hunters bosses in my experience.

I died 10-15 times at Orphan and thought he was awesome.
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>>318231237
What is the bes place to get the best OP gems? Do you know any good specific dungeons?
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>>318231237
150-180 is the average level people are playing the DLC in NG+, actually. But much like with NG, it's higher than necessary.
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>>318210985
YE
i have this issue too
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>>318201559
If I'm at 50 cap on strength and I keep leveling it up
Will it eventually go up because atm it doesn't do anything for 51
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>>318215765
I only use it as a last resort, like ng++++++.

Plus it lacks style.

I feel they intentionally added it for time when shit's impossible, you could say it's our guiding moonlight.
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>>318216848
ffs is that a shoop or did he not repair his gear?
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>>318232740
He got scraped.
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>>318231757
it will eventually but it isn't worth it
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>>318225316
Except it's not a fallacy. People have beaten Ludwig just fine; it's not impossible, and 100% obtainable.

It is L-I-T-E-R-A-L-L-Y a measure of how good you are as a player, both in your knowledge of how to deal with his attacks and your ability to perform actions under duress.

But please, continue to blame everyone but yourself for your inabilities.
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>>318232807
I mean I'm getting my ass kicked by Maria
I'm sure it would help

But it does go up after a couple levels right?
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>>318224675
Where's Laurence? Anon you did fight him right? And you quit.
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People are still stuck at Ludwig? Holy shit.
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>>318233049
You're better off raising your health.
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tell me one thing.
what the fuck or who the fuck is the orphan of kos supposed to be? a reincarnation of kos itself? some eldritch god being created?

and what in the fuck is it using to attack you anyway?
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>>318231425
Im BL 190, but in NG+4.
I was BL 155 around nG++
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I'm loving these BB DLC threads, it reminds me of the souls community during DeS

So comfy :3
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>>318233202
But it's 50 too
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>>318233482
Kos's child, able to live because Kos died.

Looks like a placenta or something.
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>>318233482
It's the child of Kos. The corpse it crawled out of is Kos itself, who was killed by humans.

It's attacking you with its mother's entrails.
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>>318233482
Dunno about what it is but it's attacking you with its placenta.
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I found two brain fluids. I gave one to chair lady, is there a use for the other?
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>>318233482
>what the fuck or who the fuck is the orphan of kos supposed to be?
It's either Kos reincarnating itself into a higher, more humanoid form... or the culmination of the kin bonding with the world of man. Either way, it's a higher being than all seen before it.

>what in the fuck is it using to attack you?
Some piece it tore out from within Kos, most likely. Just looks like a piece of its body, possibly a rib (notice the curved, bone-like blade on the edge?) The cape is likely tissue from within Kos that got wrapped around the Orphan's neck, as well, hence why it's very fleshy.
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>>318233785
>Kos itself, who was killed by humans.
Kos washed up on the shore dead already.
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Im in my second playthrough just about to fight rom at about sl50. Is the dlc really that hard? Because i beat the hame at sl70 last time and wiped the floor with every boss after rom. Amygdala, celestial emessary, micolash, mergos wet nurse, gherman, and paarl i all killed on the first try.
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>>318233828
>kin bonding with the world of man

that's highly fucking heretical
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>>318233827
She'll ask for it.
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>>318233827
Once you beat living failures come back to her and she will be behind the door as a head sack

Kill her and she'll drop a brain fluid and she will respawn soon after in a second and give it to her
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>>318233940
its 65+ with at least +7 and up weapons. Enemies hit hard
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>>318233827
You get the ayy lmao rune
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Is str/arcane worth it for pve or should i just stick with pure str?

Right now im at 30 vit 20 end 30 str with 12 dex, 6 bloodtinge and 7 arcane but im unsure what i should put points into next.
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>>318234124
Come back with at least 30 VIT, +9 weapons and good gems from the Singing Brains.
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>>318229526
That was tough to watch since you were close to dying twice. Grats
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Can someone photoshop a picture of Creed from The Office as orphan of kos?
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>>318234659
No, fuck off.
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>>318214263
>rolling the dice for hours is fun

the problem is that the bosses arent challenging, like, at all. they just do random bullshit moves that you literally can only evade with iframe abuse. there's no correct positioning before or during an attack in anticipation, because they're all super fast, have huge aoe, and close distance very fast. what actually happens is that you throw your head against a wall until the RNG makes the boss use its weakest attacks long enough that you can zerg it down, or until you get 100 perfect iframe dodges in a row without fucking up too often.

that's not challenging, that's just a chore imo. and all of the boss fights in the dlc were like that except for one, which in return was trivially easy. doesn't help that all bosses were huge HP sponges either, so you ended up doing the same things for insanely long times. personally I couldn't play the DLC for more than 30 or so minutes at a time because I was so bored.
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>>318235000
>cont

what I wanted were boss fights like Artorias, which wrecked your ass for a while until you figured out their moveset and learned to anticipate what they do, etc. what I got instead were a lot of RNG bullshit on bosses with insanely high HP.
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>>318235000
The only one that was bullshit was Laurence, the other ones were hard, but no impossible.

You are just bad.
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>DLC looks really good.
>Sold my copy of bloodborne after I finished it.
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>>318230505
A semi-hidden item in DLC area located in a place similar to where you find his skull in the base game.
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>>318235081

>RNG

DSP pls leave
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>>318229526
grats anon. looks like the good blood guided your way.
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>>318235000
>I'm not bad,the game is
Sounds like a textbook case of git gud.
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>>318235170
Did you not enjoy the main game? Because if you did you are clearly a retard.
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>>318235170
Its kind of short, just wait until DSP completes it and then watch it.
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>>318235305
I enjoyed it,it just wasn't something I actively want to replay like Dark Souls 1.
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>>318235156
>>318235290
for the record I didn't die to any boss more than 5 or so times, except orphan since I didn't figure out that you can fight him on the water and his electricity rekt me.

I can only roll my eyes when some souls shitters tell me, someone who has been at the top of various competitive games, to git gud because the only thing their tiny brains understand is how to suck miyazakis little cock and shill ps4 until they shit controllers out of their ass.

there's literally nothing hard about any of the DLC bosses, they're just a chore. and I can do nothing but laugh at you since you seem to think you have any semblance of skill in anything.
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>>318235323
>DSP completes it.
Oooh
Didn't he give up? Or did he flip-flop on his decision like a bitch?
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>>318235823
Someone is buttmad
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>>318235290
show me a video of a boss run that doesn't consist of either exploiting something broken or the protagonist at least i frame dodging 100 times. you will not find one.
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>>318235894
He gave up/ragequitted after 61 attempts on NG+. Using Ludswigs and a really bad stat distribution/build.
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>>318235823
>me, someone who has been at the top of various competitive games
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