>only 5 vaults including the one you start in
>companions jump on your dick/clit and tell you their life story after knowing you for a few days
>main quest line is laughably short and uneventful
>no interesting quests
>settlement building is incredibly clunky and sucks, doesn't help that it's largely pointless
>power armor is forced down your throat
>character is a mopey fuck, a sarcastic dad-joke generator, or an edgy teen
>only one larger city, Diamond City (Goodneighbor only has like 3 building, which are pointless anyway)
>every chest has 8 caps, some pipe pistols, some pre-war money and a silver fork
>map is empty and lifeless
>no interesting, controversial locations (F3 had Little Lamplight, a ton of weird vaults, cannibals, virtual reality, wannabe vampires)
>buggy fucking mess
>literally nothing to do after finishing the main quest and a few of the bigger ones
Anyone else realize the game they were playing was fucking shit after the hype cooled down?
I seriously couldn't believe how short the main quest chain was. It literally consisted of a couple of shoot outs, some dungeons and a whole lot of fetching shit. What the fuck?
At first I thought the map looked pretty big, but man, it's so fucking empty and boring. What a fucking letdown.
Worst of all, this will probably win several game of the year awards, because most "gaming journalists" didn't even bother to complete The Witcher 3. What a load of shit.
>>318194509
The entire southern half of the map is a huge cop-out. Like they suddenly realized they ran out of time making pointless generic corridors in the north and didn't have time to make some pointless generic corridors in the south.
It's just a huge barren "radioactive desert" and a swamp. Literally nothing there.
I realized the game was shit about 20 minutes after leaving vault 111 when I stumbled upon a set of power armor just standing upright in the woods about 200 meters from a base full of raiders.
The game is a soulless cash generator. The only thing bethesda did right with this game was naming it "fallout".
>>318193971
the fallout 4 quest variety is, quite frankly, non-existant
by taking away speech choices they pretty much qiped all the speech related quests that say new vegas had simply because there wasn't enough buttons to choose another meaningful choice
the settlements are quite frankly emptier then skyrim. COME ON BETHESDA! you could have turned an entire portion of part of Boston's city and turned it into a giant settlement with rough, rich and poor quarters, instead you give us half a baseball pitch.
really was very dissappointing
>5 vaults
Vault 111
Vault 114
Vault 81
Vault 95
.....
>>318195334
Aaaaaand Vault 75
>>318195313
To think that Skyrim was released 4 years ago. Fuck, man.
Is it seriously over for Fallout? I don't know anymore, I don't want the series to keep getting worse..
>>318195813
nah the game still is value for money, i'ev got over 60 hours out of it just from the radiant quests, the main quest, crafting and doing mostly northen exploration
is it un-original? yes
is it basic? yes
is it mediocre? wouldn't say mediocre, i'ed say average
is it value for money? definitely
its like buying shit, if you spend 100 pounds on 1 gram of shit your pissed off, but if you spend 60 dollars on 20 tons of fertiliser your pretty happy with the deal because you've got value for money.
I'm not saying fallout 4 is shit, I'm just saying you get your value for money in an original setting doing an rpg few other devs can pull off
is it worth the buy? yes
is it goty? no
it's just perfectly average and a generous portion of average
So now that Bethesda has had it's first RPG with a critic score in the low 80's, what impact do you think this will have on TES?
Will we FINALLY get a new engine?
As someone who sucks Bethesda's cock on a regular basis even I have to admit this game was really bad. Literally the only positive aspect to come out of it are the companions. It's like they forgot people play these games for the lore and characters and their stories.
Fallout 4 was exactly what I expected.
Some neat ideas that drown in the overall mediocrity and mass appeal downgrading.
>>318196249
Mediocre is average you fucking mong.
>>318196414
mediocre brings negative affiliations with the term
average is less biased and can be portrayed more positively
example:
the food I ate was mediocre
the food I ate was average
do you into tone and terminology?
>>318193629
>>no interesting quests
bait, what about cabot house, theres a cool random side quest.
>>318196558
Do you into the English language?
>Retards actually think this^
It's a great game. Kill yourselves you autistic neckbeards.
>>318196249
So all a game has to do, to be worth your money, is keep you occupied somehow for 60 hours, even if you know you're not having any fun? Get the fuck out of here.
>>318196329
That's another thing:
Why is this game not called Fallout 5 considering New Vegas exists?
>>318194509
>empty and boring
>posts a map without a single thing, even sanctuary discovered
nice damage control
>>318196628
Except it's not, shill. Skyrim was mounds better and that was released half a decade ago.
>>318196678
Because it was called Fallout 4: New Vegas.
>>318196249
>is it value for money?
A pickup truck filled with shit would probably feed your whole family for a week.
I'm not convinced that FO4 is actually worth the time in comparison to, say, MGS V.
>>318196678
Same reason San Andreas isn't Grand Theft Auto 4.
>>318196784
*wasn't
>>318196737
>/v/ now praises skyrim
i want neo /v/ AKA reddit to leave, literally so sick of this blatent new faggery
>>318196594
The one that's glitched for most people, because the girl they're supposed to retrieve is somehow vanished off the face of the earth? Sure, buddy.
Even if it wasn't glitched, the mechanics of it would still be a fetch quest. You'd still only be someone's lackey, running around and doing brainless shit for them without any input of your own.
I DON'T LIKE THING!
STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!
>>318196620
welp tim, to get the dictionary out:
mediocre:Of only average quality; not very good:
average:Having qualities that are seen as typical of a particular person, group, or thing
source: oxford dictionary
I see you lack and extended grasp on the more sophisticated aspects of the English vocabulary
>28 posts
>12 posters
fuck off OP, your epic le shit game thread is trash
>>318194509
good job idiot,its a small map thats utterly filled with named locations
if youre going to shitpost,at least do it about how the map is mostly just dungeons,although its not like you know anything about the game anyways
>>318196927
>BLAH BLAH ITS GLITCHED
lol no, its not, i just finished it yesterday without a single problem
>Even if it wasn't glitched, the mechanics of it would still be a fetch quest. You'd still only be someone's lackey, running around and doing brainless shit for them without any input of your own.Even if it wasn't glitched, the mechanics of it would still be a fetch quest. You'd still only be someone's lackey, running around and doing brainless shit for them without any input of your own.
damage control by a madd reddit poster, just shows you probably havnt played that quest
>>318196960
>be honest, guys, tell me what you really think of this meal
>it's shit, anon.
>WOW GET AN OPEN MIND, LOOK AT THIS GUY "stop liking what I don't like" amirite reddit :^)
Okay.
>>318196985
Thanks for proving me right squirt.
>>318193629
I only agree with
>only one larger city, Diamond City (Goodneighbor only has like 3 building, which are pointless anyway)
>main quest line is laughably short and uneventful
It is good game, I honestly haven't had such a fun time in a long time.
>>318196890
I just said it was mounds better, that doesn't mean I praise it in the very least.
>>318193629
Half of this is bullshit and the other half is personal preference.
Thanks for letting us all know you don't like game, anon.
>>318196890
Not him, but Skyrim was always better than Oblivion.
Not good mind you, but better.
>>318197186
nice bait attempt, but it just won't work.
>>318197269
>praises it for being "mounds better"
>says hes not praising :^)
>>318193629
HATE CRITICISM
>>318196890
I barely even use Reddit now retard. I started going on here back in May because a friend showed me that this place had Pepe. Instead, this place is full of fucking autistic pedo weebs that jerk off to cartoon girls. this place would be better without that shit
The Silver Shroud and Covenant quests are pretty cool but those are the only quests I can really remember that were enjoyable
>>318197492
>I barely even use Reddit now retard. I started going on here back in May because a friend showed me that this place had Pepe. Instead, this place is full of fucking autistic pedo weebs that jerk off to cartoon girls. this place would be better without that shit
:^)
>>318197082
>damage control by a madd reddit poster, just shows you probably havnt played that quest
Wow, that sure showed me. I played the quest until it glitched and I couldn't complete it. After I read up on it, I didn't really want to play it again either. It's a fucking fetch quest, bro, like any other quest in the game.
>>318197129
Except nobody asked you what you think of the game, retard. You decided to add to the pile of unwarranted "I DON'T LIKE THING!" topics about FO4 because you have nothing better to do today.
>>318197129
yeah because people ask for retards to not shut the fuck up about how they think the game is 'literally' an 'objective' 2/10 game and call them plebs for playing the game
didnt see a single post on facebook about fallout 4 without some fatass 15 year olds commenting "shit taste spotted xD"
>>318197298
Well, you're right. Some people simply prefer to eat shit. I don't.
>>318197659
>Wow, that sure showed me. I played the quest until it glitched and I couldn't complete it.
why dont i believe you, you could and most likely are just saying that because you are in full damage control
>>318195258
The map is smaller than f3 for sure, if you take out the water parts(theres nothing to do in the water anyway) and the glowing sea. Also the top of the map is all wood and that is lifeless as hell.
>>318195313
>because there wasn't enough buttons to choose another meaningful choice
Alpha Protocol also only has 4 buttons.
It still gave you lots of choices.
Speaking of a buggy mess. I got the bug where everytime I get out of my power armour, I get +20 rads.
Any clue how to fix it?
>>318195313
>when you realize that the 'stands are supposed to be their own district.
At this point skyrim with guns would have been better than this shit.
>>318197402
Having diarrhea is mounds better than having a kidney stone, that doesn't mean I enjoy experiencing either.
![[Insert Racist Joke].png](https://i.imgur.com/jck8yuE.jpg "[Insert Racist Joke].png")
ITT rustled jimmies
>>318193629
>no interesting, controversial locations (F3 had Little Lamplight, a ton of weird vaults, cannibals, virtual reality, wannabe vampires)
WTF? You just listed some of the most criticized locations of Fallout 3.
>>318197665
>>318197781
From OP's post:
>Anyone else realize the game they were playing was fucking shit after the hype cooled down?
Nice arguments, shit-for-brains. You really showed me there.
I've killed Paladin Danse to make an example not an exception.
You'll be missed Danse but it's for greater good.
Ad Victoriam brother.
The only location I can remember as being sort of interesting was the school where people ate pink paste and turned into ghouls, but there was pretty much no information about it at all. All the vaults are fucking awful, dunwich borers was okay I guess.
>>318197796
Read up on it. The girl you're supposed to get simply disappears. After that, she spawns inside a room in the Cabot house, which you can't enter, so you're fucked. Can't fix it with console commands either.
>>318195258
the radioactive desert is filled with fucking high level faggots
i couldnt walk two steps without getting my shit recked by higher level faggots
>>318196890
with mods its a incredible game, but you need at least 2 or 3 overhauls for it to be playable.
>>318195103
>outstanding world
>good story, characters
What game did the reviewer play?Who am I joking, he played the bribery game
>>318198037
>the "stands"
>literally 4 houses and a pub
mcfucking killed myself
WHY BETHESDA? WHY CAN'T YOU BUILD A LARGE FALLOUT SETTLEMENT?
>>318197665
>>318197781
>you can only criticize a game if you agree with my subjective evaluation of it
>"uh yeah most people who disagree with me don't really have thought out opinions, just unwarranted "I DON'T LIKE THING" about this popular game
>I act like I want to talk about it but really I just want to talk about how much I LIKE THING and I don't want to hear about any other things people don't like
Must be nice to live in a bubble.
>>318198204
i dont need to "read up on it" because i completed the quest from start to finish without a single bug
but keep looking for something to make stuff up about
>>318198180
>but there was pretty much no information about it at all
Did you turn the place upside down looking for what the goo what really supposed to do and the principals private correspondence with the gov't?
Fallout 3 have five vaults,
New Vegas have five vaults
>>318196678
New Vegas was a spin-off, like Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel, except unlike those games, it wasn't shit.
But Bethesda owns the IP so ultimately, it's their call.
They chose to make New Vegas a spinoff when they announced their new Fallout game as Fallout 4
>>318195103
>great crafting system
>half the shit you'd expect to be able to make requires mods
>>318198165
H-he'll be coming back for the Enclave dlc.
>only 5 vaults including the one you start in
I don't understand your meme. All of them have around 4-6 Vaults in the game world, even the originals.
But then again this is the 3rd time I've seen this thread so I guess this is some reverse-viral advertisement or something. Please fuck off.
There's always hardly any vaults. Which is a shame. I'd like to see more ones that don't just involve everyone being insane.
>>318198448
I only found computer terminals telling parents that they are sorry for throwing away the meals they send with their kids but the paste is harmless and part of the NAPP program or something along those lines.
>>318197982
That's not a bug, the power core is radioactive
>>318198131
look at the way you worded your first post you absolute ignoramus
the first person asks for an opinion,second person replies 'its shit' and the first guy goes damage control
clearly op was just shitposting from the get go while encouraging it,so your example didnt even correlate to op
>>318198451
I was expecting the super soldier vault to be the origin of the gunners.
Would've been cool to have a vault that actually opened and operated on the surface that you could visit, but that would have actually been interesting and beyond bethesda.
i like fallout 4
does that make me a shill?
>>318193629
>only 5 vaults
Fallout 3 had 6.
New Vegas had 5.
Did you guys just not play those two games? What are you comparing this one to?
>companions progress too quickly
Literally no different than previous Fallout games. The companion quests were basically handed to you after some dialogue checks just like with this game.
>main quest too short
Just like Fallout 3?
>no interesting quests
Part right. The good quests are few and far in between compared to F3 and FNV but they exist. Try playing the game.
>settlement building
Innocuous at its worst. It was pretty poorly implemented, but it's a fun side project to take on if you're into it.
>power armor forced
It literally isn't. After the quest in Concord I put that thing on the station in Sanctuary and never touched it for 40 hours.
>character one dimensional
Fair point. The dialogue sucks.
>only Diamond City
Just like how New Vegas only had New Vegas?
>loot sucks
Try playing past level 5.
>map empty
It's the densest map in the series so far. Pic related.
>no good locations
There are fewer than F3 or FNV but they exist. Play the game.
>buggy
Given.
>nothing to do after main quest
Except there is you unimaginative geek. Just because the game doesn't spoonfeed you quests doesn't mean it's not worth playing when you finish the main one.
>>318198131
The fuck are you arguing here? Nobody asked you to make this topic, and you did it anyway. That's not the same as "Do you like this thing?" "No I don't" "WOW NOBODY CARES" which is what you seem to think is happening itt.
>>318198363
>implying I'm not willing to talk about it
See above. The problem isn't reading criticism, it's that this topic is totally uncalled for and this anon just wanted to sperg his opinion out for all to hear because he doesn't have anything better to do. If I wanted a discussion I'd make a thread asking for one, but while I'm here, I'll carry on what the OP is attempting.
>>318198451
New Vegas had 6 and Vault 22 alone shits all over everything in Fallout 4.
And then then they have a raider infested Vault in 3 where you can actually interact with The Fiends and Motor Runner instead of just being a mindless "Go here and kill all the enemies" dungeon like everything else in 4
>fight down into a mine for 45 minutes
>ghouls everywhere
>raiders outside
>get down to the bottom
>swim through radioactive water
>rads going through the roof
>finally get what's at the bottom
>it's a shit melee weapon
At least in Skyrim your effort is mostly rewarded
>>318198592
>great crafting system
>mostly straight upgrades, not gun building or automatic/single fire paths
>Hyped as fuck even though i know it's not gonna be all that great, but i'm still a massive Fallout fan, even if just for the aesthetic and soundtrack
>Get the game, play for around 30 hours, feel like i'm doing something very wrong
>Start new save, fem, download a bunch of mods
>33 hours in, don't really feel like playing at all anymore
It's just so painfully average... i had low expectations but i was still let down, the amount of essential shit that is straight up missing from the game is mind-boggling, from the horrible UI to the clunky as fuck settlement building
I just got to Goodneighbour, am i close to the end ? Is it even worth finishing ?
>>318193629
Are you complaing about small amout of Vaults?
Mate, it was F3 that was retarded with it's dozens of vaults spread over few miles. There were 140 Vaults in total build all over the States. F3 took what? 30 of that number? And all around Washington DC
>>318198703
So its just decided to start happening at level 32 for no reason other than, lol we rads now.
>>318198429
If you actually cared, you'd google it and see that I'm not making anything up. Stop shitposting, retard.
>>318198828
>New Vegas had 6
That's fucking wrong, you retard.
I swear FNV shills never even played the game they dickride so much. It's my favorite 3d Fallout game but you guys are legit retarded.
>>318198796
Did you pay for it?
If so, did you tell someone else to buy it?
>>318195103
>Good story, characters
>Huge variety
What game were they reviewing?!
>>318197082
>this quest is glitched for most people
>no it's not I finished it fine!
>most =/= all
Why the fuck can't I craft ammo? I can craft a fucking bobblehead stand but not fucking ammo? what the fuck?
>>318198867
skyrim had LITERALLY the worst dungeon design
like literally worse than any game i have ever fuckign seen
>You can play FO3 in NV and it runs better than 3 did
>You can soon play FO1 in NV
why is NV so fucking PERFECT?
>>318198996
Vault 21 is a Vault you dense retard
>>318198934
man what the fuck are people doing? I got to diamond city 6 hours in, and good neighbor 15 hours in. I've got almost all the locations for the top of the map plus a large chunk of the city.
But good neighber has some good traders, and I'm assuming you arn't very far along the main quest if yo just got there. There is some ok quests, but its mostly trash.
>>318198798
>>318198727
You fucking dunces
It's really not about whether people jump down your throat saying "IT'S SHIT" or not.
It's about not becoming completely unglued the moment you hear someone say "IT'S SHIT".
It's okay for people to vehemently dislike games you enjoy.
You are literally shouting down anons who disagree with your worldview and saying "THAT DOESN'T BELONG IN THIS THREAD", to which I give a hearty
FUCK YOU
U
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and you should go back to reddit.
>>318196890
Compared to Fallout 4, Skyrim is Arcanum tier
>>318199157
Wasn't talking about the design, I was talking about the reward at the end of each dungeon.
>>318199157
Beth also put in backdoor for all the raider dungeons like skyim...
>>318198934
You can finish the game in about 20 hours without even rushing, but just doing the main quest.
As for me, I'm doing nothing else but Minutemen conscription quests and building artillery in new settlements, so I can call artillery whenever I want.
Fuck main quest, it's pathetic. And side-quests are pretty much "Fetch me..." and "Kill all"
>>318198640
Nice paranoia, dickweed, this is the first time I've made this thread with my own opinions. Maybe you keep seeing threads like this, because the game sucks ass?
>>318199057
>most people
Not him, but how do you know it's most people?
>>318198996
There's literally a Vault on the strip
>>318199057
>most people
is it hard to make shit up on the internet? and then pretend its true? How hard is it?
>>318198765
I just want to see a vault that didn't have:
A-everyone killing off/going insane
B- becoming a settlement
honestly all the vaults in fallout 4 simply felt unoriginal and completely uninteresting
>"oh look vault 114! can't wait to see what's inside"
>oh...gunners and dead people
repeat ad nauseum
why not visit a vault that REALLY had super soldier's inside ready to wage war on the wasteland, and a quest where you talk to the leader and try to curb/ influence his military dreams?
why not a vault where social experiments actually influenced the vault in other interesting ways? like an inbreeding vault that creates a ton of inbred monstrosities that abduct women to dilute their genes, or a vault where they introduced a new god by combining the elements of all the pre-existing deities and forcing the vault dwellers to worship it, creating a pseudo-bizarre religious cult that desires not only to further their new religion, but find new gods like atom to re-appropriate it's religious traditions it into their own god, allowing you to fabricate imaginary gods, influence the cult's religious beliefs or potentially get them all killed
instead it's kill A, find corpses of B
>>318196249
I think the main issue with FO4 right now is exactly the opposite: it isn't worth the money.
Half/75% of the current price and yeah, t'd be worth the money, but right now, the state it's at, there's better things to do with 60 bucks.
>>318198116
>controversial
75 hours, had fun on survival difficulty, come at me.
Don't need to keep playing. Worth 60 bucks.
>one less vault than Fo3 and F:NV
This shouldn't be an issue if the vaults weren't literally one fucking room.
>>318199182
And Vault 21 is included on that map I linked. There are five fucking vaults. How retarded are you?
>>318199245
Were you held back? Holy shit your reading comprehension is out of this world bad.
>>318197129 implied that somebody fucking asked him what he thought of this game, and that he said it's shit, and now people are sperging out at him. That's a fucking lie because NOBODY asked him to make this thread.
I'm okay with people criticizing this game because it has a lot of flaws.
>>318199357
That's not an actual vault. If you count that then I may as well count FO4's Vault 111 as being one the game's vaults.
>>318198867
half fallout 4 dungeons are named boss raider/ gunner followed by loot crate and...rarely... shit weapon to accompany it?
why not give us interesting beth?
>>318199278
>go through generic as FUCK skyrim dungeon
>literally a straight line through
>a few generic enemies
> get to end with a chest with a few potions and some GARBAGE enchanted item
>implying anybody used those garbage random enchanted items
>not just cheesing 100 lvl smithing and enchanting and making the best shit in the game
dude, i played 500+ hours of skyrim, the shit you get from dungeons is LITERAL FUCKING GARBAGE
enjoy 150 gold coins some potions and a literal garbage enchanted item, such a joke lol
>>318193629
I don't like this game, but the number of in game vaults has never been higher than 6
>Fallout
Vault 12, Vault 13, Vault 15 and the Los Angeles Vault
>Fallout 2
Vault 8, Vault 13, Vault 15 and the Unfinished Vault
>Fallout 3
Vault 87, Vault 92, Vault 101, Vault 106, Vault 108 and Vault 112
>New Vegas
Vault 3, Vault 11, Vault 19, Vault 21, Vault 22 and Vault 34
Plus Vault 0 in tactics.
>Introduce Mercenary faction
>They're just high leveled Raiders that are impossible to interact with except for a few rare occasions where you get extorted for caps
For what purpose? Who thought this was a good idea
>>318198798
>this anon just wanted to sperg his opinion out for all to hear because he doesn't have anything better to do
Why are you shitting on somebody for offering his honest opinion?
You don't have to answer. Your opinion that 'it's uncalled for' is your own, no one else's, and carries as much weight as a fish fart on 4chan. We're on /v/, it's not like you're the personal arbitrator of what is and isn't allowed.
I'll also point out that your points largely compare flaws with pre-existing flaws in FO3, and your opinion of loot generation is poor for anyone playing above Normal.
>Y-y-you can still enjoy your walking simulator after you finish the game
You know, the more I read your post, the more it sounds like the weak floundering of some Fallout Defence Force fan. Fuck off with your opinion, which you are perfectly entitled to hold.
>>318199667
see
>>318199694
There are 6 Vaults in NV, now stop being so fucking stupid
>>318199245
i replied to your statement about how you thought people asked for opinions on fallout 4,but went full bethesdrone when they said anything negative with the truth that people that like fallout 4 just happen to like it,but shitposters and ebin memers are breathing down their necks and fucking them in the ass about how they like the game they spend all day criticizing
now you turned it around because you seriously cant keep up with someone showing you that you have a long way to go before your shitposting becomes decent.
>>318199705
Its like the fucking Talon Company 2.0
Makes no goddamn sense at all
>>318199513
>A-everyone killing off/going insane
>B- becoming a settlement
What else is there?
>>318199513
>still no Vault where you open it for the first time and your decisions influence what happens to it's citizens
Hurr durr Vault 101 doesn't count
>>318199667
no it's not, your map contains vault 22, vault 18, vault 3, vault 34, and vault 11 but it's missing vault 21 which would make 6 vaults
kill urself my man
>>318199667
Wow, calm down, anon. No need to get so angry at the internet.
>That's a fucking lie because NOBODY asked him to make this thread.
...Is that supposed to prove a point or something? It's /v/.
>I'm okay with people criticizing this game because it has a lot of flaws.
>fuck you OP nobody asked you
Pick one :^)
I just had a thought from the first bullet point, each State/district has way to many vaults if there are only 122 total.
>>318199683
Sometimes that's the only way to get a certain enchantment though. Also I played OVER 2000 HOURS IN SKYRIM.
>>318199853
oh you goose you, you know what I mean
a settlement that is something more then just a village/ town and something more innovative then "diamond city" underground.
>>318199184
>man what the fuck are people doing?
Probably exploring rather than barreling through the main quest. You know, what you're supposed to do.
>>318199721
>Why are you shitting on somebody for offering his honest opinion?
I'm not you fucking high school dropout. I'm pointing out that his retarded analogy is inaccurate. Learn to goddamn read.
>>318199836
>>318199892
Vault 21 is not an actual vault.
Repeat: Vault 21 is not an actual vault.
>>318199914
See fucking above. My god you people cannot read. OP justified this thread by using an analogy that doesn't even resemble what's happening itt and I called him out for it. You dipshits are arguing against phantoms.
Want to have an actual discussion regarding criticism of this game? See my post here >>318198798
>>318199667
>That's not an actual vault
Yes it is. You can get a room in it, go inside, it has unique NPCs involved with other quests and it has its own quest where you can fuck the owner
>>318199839
>disagree with a post
>call it shitposting
Well thought out, anon. You are getting angered over an imaginary opponent. Nobody is saying that people are not allowed to enjoy shit.
You are entitled to enjoy shit.
People are entitled to describe shit as bad shit.
People are entitled to describe shit as having value, especially entertainment value.
You are not entitled to wave your hands and say "stop calling it shit". That's life, and if you can't handle it what the fuck are you doing on this board.
>>318196890
You weren't here the day it released, it seeems to me.
>>318200023
Vault 21 is a Vault and it has more content than almost all of the Vaults in 4
Are the dungeons better than in Skyrim or do I just absolutely suck at navigating houses?
>>318200028
It's literally not. It was converted into and repurposed to be a hotel/casino hybrid. That isn't a vault, it's just a location.
>>318199921
There are way more than 122 though
Or even if you try yo follow FOBible, then we can assume the flyover states and South were left out
>>318199993
no, 99% of the time it was a garbage enchanted item, i honestly dont think you have 2k hours becuase you wouldnt say stupid shit like that
>>318200028
FUCK I never went in that vault properly because of all the fucking loading screen, can't believed I missed getting my dick wet
>>318199667
Are you actually retarded?
In the same post you deny and admit vault 21 isn't on your picture and that it is and isn't a "real" vault at the same time,
>>318200023
>my god you people cannot read
>getting this buttflustered
Calm down, man. The average replying anon has seen exactly one of your posts in their lifetime. Don't be such a spoiled bitch about "read my posts", especially if you're not a tripfag.
>arguing against phantoms
Literally the only person doing that is you
>>318200137
>It's not a vault, it's just a vault that's being used as a hotel
>>318199163
>>You can soon play FO1 in NV
Wait, what?
You mean modders have created just Southern California with all the locations from FO1 or the entire main quest with all the areas and shit?
>>318199885
It's been like 200 years since the Vaults closed, a majority ran out of supplies and are forced to either trade with the outside or adapt somehow. (Read cannibalism)
>>318200159
yup, I do.
>>318200191
I read "Vault 22" in the first post I linked, which IS on the map. That's the only glimpse of confusion in that post.
>>318200241
It's not my fault you can't read. I'm glad you finally comprehended what my post was actually saying though, even if it took you like 6 posts. Great work.
>>318200023
>You dipshits are arguing against phantoms.
TOP
FUCKING
KEK
>>318199395
As hard as banging your mom, so on a difficulty scale of 0-100 it's about a 1
Personally I think the talking protagonist is one of the worst things in video games, especially Fallout 4
>>318198996
Listen here faggot, Fallout 3 had six vaults, New Vegas had six vaults, and Fallout 4 only has 5 vaults. That's counting vaults 101, 111, and 21 because they're vaults. That's all of them.
>>318200081
>claiming hating fallout 4 isnt the current biggest gaming meme
>you are getting angered
cant you take a point with grace?i get you like memeing but you need to work on making your shitposts believable,you might have potential for being a pretty good one,but instead youre embarrasing yourself
or are you,how much people are going to read our little banter anyways
>>318200137
>Mr. House uses a Vault as source of income by using it as a hotel and casino
>This means it's not a vault even though it's literally called the Vault 21 Hotel with the fucking Cog on the sign
>Even though the interior is still clearly the same Vault interior
Stop fucking reaching so hard with your cripplingly autistic posts you fucking manchild
>>318200362
I'm >>318200241. This is my second post in this thread, and I'd like to use it to laugh at you.
Get over yourself, kid.
What's going on in here?
The only this good about this game is that it's making me replay New Vegas.
>>318193629
Cool, you don't like the game. Go play something else and stop looking for attention on /v/
>>318200562
you should update that filename
May as well ask in this thread.
Would I enjoy Fallout 4 at all if I thought Skyrim was utter dogshit in terms of polish and quality?
>>318200529
>having opinions is a meme
I shudder to think of what you're like in real life. Good luck outside of 4chan.
>>318200676
no, it's basically Skyrim with guns and dogs
>>318200667
That's a lot of Todd's to update.
>>318200529
>claiming hating fallout 4 is the current biggest gaming meme
I always knew that genuine retards browsed /v/, but this is the first time I've ever seen one post.
>>318200676
no, unless you can be swayed by the post-apocalyptic setting
>>318196678
You really think Bethesda is going to count someone elses game as a part of THEIR franchise?
>>318198798
>>318200023
>>318200137
my biggest gripe with this game is EVERY GODAMMN PERK HAVING MULTIPLE TIERS.
Even the fucking fluff perks like local leader needs 2 to get the shops unlocked, and mysterious stranger having 3 tiers? what the hell.
im level 31 and almost all my perk points have been used to get crafting and settlement unlocks and i have 5 or 6 left to invest just for that. It takes me like 2 hours to level up now so i can only imagine how long it will take when i hit 50
>>318200267
na its some guy remaking f1 in nv engine. The voice acting is shit, and all there is, is some videos from a few months back . pretty sure its dead
If you want some legit good mods coming out, be sure to try fallout frontier.
>>318198798
>Fallout 3 had 6.
>New Vegas had 5.
>Did you guys just not play those two games?
I confess, I did not research just how many vaults the other games had. You got me there. Sure felt like they had way more, probably because they were interesting and not totally bland.
>main quest too short
>Just like Fallout 3?
Fallout 3 was released in 2008. You'd think they'd be able to write a compelling story 7 years later.
>Part right. The good quests are few and far in between compared to F3 and FNV but they exist. Try playing the game.
No I won't, fuck off.
>power armor forced
>It literally isn't. After the quest in Concord I put that thing on the station in Sanctuary and never touched it for 40 hours.
I did too, except I kept finding power armor fucking everywhere. Most of the trailers showed a ton of power armor shit. Fuck, even the box art is power armor. Fuck off.
>only Diamond City
>Just like how New Vegas only had New Vegas?
New Vegas was released 5 years ago. Why not use Skyrim as an example, which had lots of interesting towns and cities to explore?
>loot sucks
>Try playing past level 5.
What?
>map empty
>It's the densest map in the series so far. Pic related.
It may be dense, but it's incredibly shallow at the same time. Most of the dots there are abandoned parks or some random factories, which serve no purpose other than to loot.
>no good locations
>There are fewer than F3 or FNV but they exist. Play the game.
Stop telling me to play the game, even though you admit it has fewer locations than a last-gen RPG.
>nothing to do after main quest
>Except there is you unimaginative geek. Just because the game doesn't spoonfeed you quests doesn't mean it's not worth playing when you finish the main one.
Unimaginative geek? So I have to imagine my own fun with this AAA title? Yeah, fuck me for assuming they'd actually write interesting quests or create interesting settlements. It's way more fun to wander around for hours, looking for something to fucking do.
>shitters still trying to shitpost
>literally goty
>improved everything about the game
>shitters still on 4chan all day long shitposting because muh obsidian kickstarter games that all bombed
you're worse than SJWs and nintendofags combined
you are quite literally the worse userbase on the board and constantly shit all over the board
you're cancer, complete cancer. and you have shit taste in games, you think witcher 3 is goty when it failed at every fucking thing it set out to do. you're tgoing to sit on /v/ for months on end shitposting a game to try to justify your delusional emotional attachment towards shitty developers
>>318200562
>todd
>taller than a door handle
pick one
>>318200507
>>318200536
If you actually want to count 101, 111, and 21 then go for it. That means there's virtually no difference between the number of vaults across the 3 games and the OP's 1st point is still moot.
>>318200547
Sorry to hear you wasted your 2nd post itt on a "ur mad lol" shitpost.
>>318200676
na its skyrim with guns mostly with some fnv mods pasted in. The writing makes skyrim look incredible good.As in I'm pretty sure childrens shows have better writing.
>>318200849
This really is fucking terrible
>Can't cripple a limb with handguns unless you put like 3 points into a perk which you also need to be like 31 to get
Mods cant come soon enough, what a shitty game
>>318200824
ffs It's not bethesda, it's standard industry bullshit to name thing in order of numbered titles even when it's preceded by a text title.
Reminder that internal consistency doesn't matter in fantasy settings anymore.
This rage thread. Fallout 4 is only disappointing because it's not what YOU expected. Not because it's not what was promised (which is nothing). The only issue I see with fallout is the bugs, outside of that all of the things being complained about in terms of locations or interesting quests are a matter of opinion, and aren't including the DLC to follow.
>>318200593
>tfw wanted to replay New Vegas too after playing FO4
>was halfway through modding it when I left it for a couple of days
>now feel the urge again but can't remember where I left off so I'll have to start all over again
>>318200952
You're fucked
>>318200942
>improved everything about the game
Way to reveal you started playing Fallout games with FO3.
>>318201006
>unable to understand previous posts without repetition and elaborate explanations
You fucking dunce, you can't say "count 101, 111, and 21, then OP's point is moot" because they're still shitty vaults.
Stay mouthbreathing
>>318200692
if the metacritic user reviews and the constant fallout 4 hate threads that had appeared here didnt scream meme then i dont know what would
the worst thing is though,braindead parrots who've never played the game actually go out of their way to be asshats to people online they see playing fallout 4,with no reasoning other than "youre a pleb if you play this trash game"
and btw,im perfectly fine and got that qt kgf
>>318201056
you can cripple limbs with guns at any level, you fucking retard, if you actually played the fucking game, you'd know this
instead you sit on 4chan all day long shitposting instead
you quite literally can cripple any limb with any weapon at any level without any perks
you're cancer. now shut the fuck up and stop shitposting
>>318201006
>101
Sure, there's even a quest where you return and do stuff
>21
Yeah, like previously stated it actually has content
>111
There's literally nothing in it ever except for your dead spouse who stays there forever.
>>318200023
>Vault 21 is not an actual vault.
>Repeat: Vault 21 is not an actual vault.
Expect it is. If you ask house and Sarah Weintraub about it you learn.
1. It sheltered people from the war in 2077
2. Was not open to the public as a casino/gimmick pre war
3. Had an experiment
4. House made contact and gambled with them. He wagered something so valuable they gambled their vaults future and lost. House implied he cheated.
5. Had a large blast door like all the other vaults (it hangs above that shack as its sign) the entire door mechanism was dismantled
6, the lower levels have been dismantled/scrapped/ and filled with cement (reference to Howard Huges and Silver Slipper Casino) you can even get into the lower levels on PC. Benny used them to escape Vegas.
>>318201231
no, nigger, i played fallout when it was released
while you still were in fucking diapers
you cancerous little shit
>>318200676
It's far better than vanilla Skyrim, that's for sure.
>>318197970
I'd honestly be hyped to see an Alpha Protocol-like Fallout. Except Avellone left Obsidian so I can't even be excited for that.
>>318201231
What the fuck are you even saying? If you think those vaults are all shitty then the games still have extremely similar numbers of vaults.
>>318201271
Guess you missed the unique weapon hidden behind the master lock. Sucks to hear.
>>318197794
And you prefer to eat shit, then say how much you dislike others people shit.
>>318198291
Gamebryo shits itself if there's more than 10 people on screen at once.
>>318201095
Then explain the non existent writing, that 99% of the quests are "kill this" or "fetch this" and return for caps. Or that most of the factions are fallout 3 factions with new paint on them or straight up reused.
And that there are far less guns, most of the perks are just stat changes and the game is so causal that my own mother could play it.
Also all the new features are just copy and pasted fnv mods.
>>318201232
>assuming people who talk shit about the game haven't played it
>assuming that anything that disagrees with you must be a meme
>bragging about having a gf on /v/
It's like you lack the intellectual capacity to realize that the public can disagree with critics, and that people can have differing opinions
"im perfectly fine"? maybe for a braindead autist
stay jelly loser :^)
>>318201006
>virtually no difference between the number of vaults across the 3 games
The difference is literally 1, because Fallout 4 has 5 and the other two have 6 :^)
>>318201301
There's no point.
He said something retarded and doesn't want to admit to being wrong on a Swiss chocolatière enthusiast's digital news column.
Is the Enclave permanently gone after 3? I hope they make an appearance in the DLC at some point.
>>318201503
>You can pick a single lock
Such an interesting vault to go back to
>>318201503
>talking like a condescending douche
This is why you have no real friends
>>318201095
I'm not even mad, desu. Anyone that expected this game to be NV has nobody to blame but themselves. Skyrim was more than enough warning to show how much bethesda is dumbing their games down, and how much they really do just ride on selling people a game that gets put on life support by the fans. Why fix anything when you can have people pay you to fix your game?
I'm not defending them at all, their games are shit, always have been. But anybody that's acting like this is news is clearly a fucking idiot. You dumb faggots keep buying this shit and they keep making it. I will never waste my dollarydoos on a bethesda game again.
How many vaults were in 3 and new vegas?
>>318193629
>Anyone else realize the game they were playing was fucking shit after the hype cooled down?
No, despite being a huge fan of Fallout 2,3 and NV, instead of just believing what I was old like a good goy, I looked at the info they were releasing and saw the game was going to be shit, and a casualized, water-down version of what had come before.
If you were fucking retarded enough to go into F4 expecting it to be the experience the hype had tried to convince you it was, you've only got yourself and maybe your parents to blame.
>>318201625
they've been permanently gone since 2
>>318200890
>Fuck, even the box art is power armor. Fuck off.
See image here >>318196329
The fact that you don't realize all but one fallout game has power armor on it's cover show's exactly what kind of b8 thread this is. Get your bullshit out of here you fucking loser. Next time you feel like bitching how about you know what you're talking about first.
>>318201503
Alright, there's literally nothing except for a shitty Ice Flamer
>>318201727
But they were in 3 and NV
>>318201671
>talking like a condescending doucheHoly shit, I think Pete Hines is ITT
>>318201572
Epic post here, anon.
>>318201637
>claims vault 111 has no content
>actually does
>"yeah well it isn't enough!"
Don't strain yourself moving those goalposts.
>>318201745
See above.
>>318201625
nah, the enclave just painted their power armor black and stole a blimp before pretending to be the brotherhood of stealin all seriousness I won't be surprised if an enclave emergence re-occurs
>>318201759
They were called remnants in NV for a reason. Enclave got fucked by the Chosen One then got fucked by the NCR, they're done.
>>318201570
lol im not going to read your posts anymore,skimmed and saw 'braindead autist'
-1 for buzzword reply for lack of anything else to say
+1 for wasting my time
>>318201704
Read the thread
>>318199694
>>318201704
5 and 6
>>318199694
Agreed with this, it makes way less sense for the 3D Fallout games to have more Vaults anyway considering that the old Fallout games covered a much, much wider area and had less.
I mean, maybe there are many more Vaults in the Fallout1/2 area, but we don't know of them. As far as we're concerned San Francisco has no Vault, Los Angeles has one Vault under the Cathedral which is a showroom Vault for Vault-Tec, New Reno doesn't have a Vault, Vault 13, 15 and 8 are seemingly out in the middle of nowhere with no previous settlements nearby.
D.C, Boston and Las Vegas having like 15 Vaults together (out of around 120 Vaults in total) is a bit silly and only really exists for le explorashun gameplay that Bethesda has brought the series to.
Why is this one guy so adamantly defending a shitty game
>>318201801
>comparing a weapon to quests and characters
shiggu
>>318201801
by that logic, everything where you can find a tin can has content
>>318201794
but it doesn't say what year
>>318201801
>ONE SINGULAR GUN
>CONTENT
bethesdrone, PLEASE
>>318201384
How can someone who claims to be so old have such a shitty taste in video games to call Fallout 4 game of the year.
>>318200749
Just save them till TES 6 is announced or something
>>318195103
>Le Witcher 3 is classic gem
The only game released this year that Witcher 3 looks better than is Fallout 4. It's standard for releases this year.
It's combat is slow as fuck and retardedly easy even at its most difficult. It's characters a bland because it's taken 3 games to get a decent Witcher game.
On release it was more crash prone than Fallout 4.
The Devs lied to make sales like Ubisoft did.
Witcher 3 is decent game by a piece of shit studio. Its at best a 7/10 game, its taken months to make stable and 1000's of people still crash all the time.
>>318201975
>>318202014
If 111 doesn't count, neither does 21.
>>318201801
>A reskinned Flamer being the equivalent to actual quests
ayy
>>318193629
CUT CONTENT
>>318201959
>>318202014
>>318202074
You literally can't say that a gun is less content than a quest. It's dependent on the player as to which they find to be a better reason to return to the vault they came from.
Also FNV is my favorite 3d fallout and I played the first two games before bethesda even bought the rights to the franchise, don't pull the "bethesdrone lol!" meme on me.
>>318201975
I don't think I need to point out what's wrong with this post.
>>318202006
The whole point of that Vault's experiment was to have a bunch of Jet & Psycho junkies, it's very clearly stated in multiple places in relation to that Vault that Jet is pre-war because Bethesda just don't care about the lore (one of the largest plot devices of Fallout 2).
>>318201945
>>318201860
Anon was asking if they would make a reappearance. Anon 2 said they were permanently gone after 2.
Anon 3 said they appeared afterwards in 3 and NV.
As a fully equipped chapter and then as remnants.
Let's work from this point on.
>>318202057
21 has residents, quests, a pertinent backstory and loot
111 has 1 gun that's a reskin and its whole premise clashes with a similar vault in FO2
>>318202175
>You literally can't say that a gun is less content than a quest.
So this is where we are.
>>318193971
It's because you played it through in normal/easy difficulty.
Nigga I played survival until I had to step it down to hard at level 15 because I couldn't get to the next point without getting killed by fucking bloodbugs.
Playing through the main quest line was 40 hours of solid gameplay.
>>318202203
maybe the vault logs have been altered since the vault was sealed
>>318202308
We're supposed to judge games on what the experience is balanced for are we not?
>>318202175
>You literally can't say that a gun is less content than a quest
Yes, you can. A single lock provides maybe 2 or 3 minutes of content depending on how long it takes to get to the lock while a quest provides more than that. In addition, Vault 21 is also involved with 2 more quests
>>318202203
The jet issue is easily explained - Fallout 4 Jet isn't made of Brahmin jenkem. Fallout 2 Jet is an entirely new drug, that Myron gave the name of some pre-War drug that wasn't common on the WC.
In Fallout 3/4 the Jet you find is effectively street crack versions of the actual pre-war Jet, hence why it's made of different chemical materials.
>>318202371
Or maybe they wanted a junkie vault. And instead of creating a new drug, they just used whatever was already in the game.
>>318202308
>if you pump up the artificial difficulty and make the game completely tedious its solid gameplay!
>>318202290
Dude, what's your point here? Do you think every single player who has ever and will ever play both FO3 and FO4 agrees that the quest to go back to vault 101 and do that stupid quest is cooler than going back to vault 111 for a unique weapon?
You can't even argue that. Some people, including myself, probably found the return to vault 101 lackluster. Some people probably thought the ice flamer was kickass. Those people would disagree with your notion that vault 101 was more worth returning to than vault 111. Neither have much to do when you return. It's not like either is teeming with content.
>>318202425
I'm talking about vault 101, not 21. I acknowledge that vault 21 clearly has more content. But vault 101 vs vault 111 is "One quest" vs "One weapon". Whether you prefer the quest or the weapon depends on the player. One isn't superior to the other in terms of content. One is LONGER than the other (in that a quest takes longer to complete than picking a lock) but that doesn't mean more content. If FO5 has you returning to your vault which has become a huge maze with nothing in it that takes 3 hours to find your way through, would you argue that's more content than vault 111 or 101 just because you spend a long time there?
>>318202175
>You literally can't say that a gun is less content than a quest.
what the fuck
>>318202464
That's dumb, it would be really easy just to call it Bump or something stupid like that
>>318202458
Oh, and FO4 Jet has different effects than FO3 Jet. FO4 Jet is effectively NV Turbo, so it makes even more sense that it's different stuff.
>>318202464
They could have easily just used Psycho & Buffout, or Psycho & Mentats, or just Psycho on its own. All of them have addictive qualities.
Bethesda completely retconned that Jet was created by Myron before the events of Fallout 2. There are pre-war Jet posters with the Vault Boy on it in Fo4, pre-war terminal entires mentioning Jet, a whole Vault experiment based around Jet existing pre-war, pre-war drug dealer stash notes about a Jet stash.
>find Unlimited Ammo weapon
>it uses up ammo
Great game
>>318193629
>main quest line is laughably short
Nigger I'm over 100 hours in and still haven't beat the main quest story. These games are as fun and long as you make them.
>no interesting, controversial locations
You must not have explored. I've found plenty. Of course it sounds like you probably go in guns blazing, don't read or listen to holotapes, and get out. Have you heard the Story of the Dumb Squirrel, that could probably be considered controversial
>>318202654
See >>318202650
Do you seriously think that a quest is better than a unique and powerful item, full stop? Do you think one of the shitty radiant quests is better content than finding a one of a kind item just because it's a quest?
>>318202650
Vault 101 gives you a companion in addition to its quest
>>318202724
>>318201860
Are we just going to ignore that they had a base at Raven Rock in the Capital Wasteland because it was FO3?
>>318202724
They accidentally didn't call it Bottomless Clip
>>318193629
I need to get /v/ off my Clover before I catch autism.
>>318202685
BuffOut was incredibly hard to come by during the ration, since it was effectively Military steroids. It would have actually been interesting if there was a Vault full of that shit
>>318202371
>someone
>presumably a gunner
>went into an old terminal
>then edited a pre-war entry to make it seem as if Jet were on the list of drugs supplied to the vault
wew lad
>>318202724
It's unlimited ammo CAPACITY. Learn to fucking read.
So mods takes Skyrim from a 4/10 into a 8/10 game. A shit ton of content, new perk overhauls, combat changes and so on.
With it be the same as Fallout4 you think? Will they be able to salvage its short comings?
>>318202889
Probably easier for Vault-Tec to get a hold of than them time travelling into the future to get some Jet from Myron, you know.
>>318202869
Yes. Because of all the dumb things in FO3, Enclave was the most dumb. Forget it existed
>>318202949
Like I said, firing the weapon still uses up ammo.
>>318202841
Fallout 4's radiant quests aren't real quests
>>318202547
NO! If you pump it up to hard/beyond it's actual Fallout level tough as fuck reload every 10 min gameplay, anything easier is tailored to masses who are familiar with CoD or the latest Madden or Farmville.
If you're a intelligent hardcore gamer with decade of vidya playing experience (I'm presuming so because you're on /v/) why would you play it on the default difficulty setting let alone complain why it's too easy.
>>318203006
No shit. Unlimited ammo capacity means the clip has not capacity limit. It fires as long as you have ammo and never has to be reloaded.
