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playing videogames is expensive as fuck. the best and easiest way to fully enjoy


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>playing videogames is expensive as fuck.
>the best and easiest way to fully enjoy videogames is by being a NEET.

why life is so cruel?
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>>318181457
>playing videogames is expensive as fuck.

No it isn't, poorfag
Get a proper job
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>>318181595
>No it isn't, poorfag

It is.
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Funny enough I took this screenshot from a game I am emulating for free. If you are going to be a NEET then you may as well go all out.
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>the best and easiest way to fully enjoy videogames is by being a NEET.
>implying you dont cherish and enjoy videogames more when you don't get to play them 24/7
do you even human psychology bro
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>>318181826
This. Playing games 24/7 made me depressed as fuck.
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>>318181457
>not going full neet and pirating games
The only reason i can think of for you not of doing this is because you are console peasant.
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>>318181731

Games cost $20-30 new. A PS3 is around $200 unless you want to buy used, then it's about $150. So maybe 10-20 hours of work to afford the system and a new-ish game.

What, do you get minimum wage or something? Are you a nigger?
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>>318181595
>>318181731
no it literally isn't. you can buy a brand new game after working a shift at taco bell. Get a job.
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>>318181898
I think playing video games while being NEET makes me like vidya less.

>being neet around christmas truly is suicidal
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>>318181990
>using autism as a defence

Alright kid.
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>>318181595
internet
electricity
tv
sofa
table for your tv
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>>318182114
Nigga I have a 50k job and I'm managing well with all of that.
It really isn't that expensive
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>>318181898
>>318181826
this so much
video games feel fucking incredible when you DON'T play them very much, it feels like a reward and you get an awesome dopamine hit
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>>318182114
>these things
>expensive
no. unless you're part time at mcdonalds, all of those are more than affordable.
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>>318181990
>be you
>be a neckbeard programmer who makes good money but has no IRL friends and shitposts on 4chan from his highhorse

Lmao.
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>>318182208
>he thinks these guys have anywhere close to a 50k job
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>>318181457
>playing videogames is expensive as fuck.
It really isn't that bad. I can easily afford high-end PC gaming off a decent job in the shit part of Europe.

People in more western countries should be earning much more than me and paying the same for hardware & games or even less, it shouldn't be too hard have gaming as a hobby.
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>>318182114
$60 for internet and $100 for electricity.
>tv
>sofa
>table for tv

Nigger do you even know how to setup? I can keep my consoles and computer in 1 place. Pic related.
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>>318182114
You generally need all of those things anyway, those aren't gaming-specific expenses.
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>americucƙs complaining about video game prices
just another day on /v/
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>>318182386
>be me
>have my own business at 26
>make mad dosh and have lots of friends

okeh :)
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>>318181898
>having the time to do whatever I want made me depressed as fuck
How do you even function?
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>>318181457

>Playing videogames is expensive

What? A minimum wage job would require like 2 days of work to afford a game.
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>>318181457
>>playing videogames is expensive as fuck.
What the fuck?
videogames are a cheap as dirt hobby to have, do you buy every single game on release and never play old games?

I don't even make much money and I still have more than enough for games.
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>>318181457
There are ways of getting games for free.
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>>318182667
Ah, a fellow business owner anon. What do you do? I do home computer repairs and setup networks/computers/servers for local offices.
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>2015
>not collecting and playing Famicom games
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>be NEET
>decide to learn moonspeak, take up fansubbing and translating old vidya
>play less new vidya, build backlog for 5 years
>quit translation scene, now one full vidya gen behind
>can now pirate last-gen incredibly easily and play all the backlog I want FOR FREE
It's like you don't even want to succeed in life, OP. Do you go to movies every week too? Stop going to movies and wait for the screener or BD to be ripped. It's only a few months and you're all set as long as you pace yourself.
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>>318183524
>Nov 2015
>Posting last month's flavour of the month shitposting meme.

Remove yourself.
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>>318183981
I have charter so I can't easily pirate nor can I look up how to pirate because ISP will disable my internet. So what's required?
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When you're NEET you just have TOO MUCH time for vidya, nothing will last you long enough to not run out after a year or so, except korean grinding MMO's.
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>>318182114
you also need a house/apartment and food and water
you cant play video games if you're starving in the streets
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>>318184002
But I actually like Umaru.
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>>318181595
>gets job
>isnt a neet anymore

logic? you cannot be a neet and have a job at the same fucktard. either you have a job or your a neet.
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>>318181457
>expensive
Not really. Its actually fairly cheap as far as hobbies go.
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>>318185148
>But I actually like Umaru.
Oh, so you're retarded.
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>>318184257
>nor can I look up how to pirate because ISP will disable my internet
Jesus, they're really assraping you over there.
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Playing with tabletop WH40K dolls is expensive as fuck.
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>>318181731
compare the cost of watching your average movie vs the length of time it entertains you for. or the cost of eating a meal at a restaurant, or paying for a skydiving trip, or a holiday, or joining a gym.

now look at how many hours of enjoyment you get from a video game.

videogames are incredibly cost efficient compared to most things.
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>have a job
>video games become more enjoyable since you appreciate free time more

>unemployed
>easy to get depressed
>be depressed=vidya is hard to enjoy

I've been unemployed for almost a year now and been struggling to not become depressed
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>>318185408
They banned 4chan for awhile in my area for some damn reason about 2 years ago. Most productive time in my life.
>I actually played more video games
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I get a 100 dollar deposit every friday by doing nothing.
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>get a job for about 30 hours a week
>slowly enjoying games more
You guys were right.
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>>318185621
I've never been NEET, why do you get depressed? No money or what? When I was still studying I used to love those long summers where I had nothing but time to do whatever I felt like.
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>>318185775
You need to have like, a bare minimum of discipline and willpower. If you don't want to browse 4chan, then don't. Nobody is forcing you to do it.
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>>318185914
Spend too long doing literally nothing and it gets boring, and once you're in that far it's hard to get out.
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>>318185914
No anon, it's one thing having a lot of free time, another to have no social interaction whatsoever for years on end.
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>The best way to keep your mind sharp for vidya is to eat nutritious unprocessed foods including vegetables
>Making these healthy foods takes so much of your free time away from vidya
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>>318185895
I value my time even more whenever I get back.
The only drawback is that I get grumpy whenever i have to do pointless shit that get in the way of my free time.

Wouldn't want it any other way unless I suddenly got filthy rich from a Nigerian prince and never had to work again.
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>>318185914
Because you feel worthless without any responsibilities, when your friends have actual lives but you're just at home playing video games. And you're too shameful to pursue romance. And you end up spiralling further and further down. There's a difference between summer break and having nothing to do all year round. I guess it depends on where you belong on the "normie" scale. I'm not super social and love video games maybe a bit too much but I want to actually have a life too.
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>>318185914
normies always need someone telling them what to do or they get bored and depressed
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>>318185914
Try doing it for literally years while cutting off pretty much all outside contact and having no money and no future.
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>>318185914
Hes not doing NEET correctly... If you don't have a job or social life you don't hole up in your fucking house/room and do nothing... If you play JUST games you'll eventually stop playing them or find something else to occupy your time. Getting some sun and doing some high intensity sprints will get that testosterone flowing and help stop depression. It will also keep you from becoming a fat ass. Finding a hobby also will make you less depressed. But for the love of god don't just play video games, read manga, or watch anime all day. Get away from the computer for at least 2-3 hours. And remember as a human you crave social interaction also. Which is one of the reasons why people stay on 4chan for hours instead of playing games when they have a huge backlog because they're not socializing regularly in real life.
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>>318185914

They're faggots. I was NEET for 8 years after highschool and they were the best years of my life by far. Now I have a job and hate life. Being NEET is freedom.
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>literally haven't spent any money on games in upwards of 5 years

PC gaming.
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but anon video games are free
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>>318186551
>they were the best years of my life by far

What a pathetic existence.
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>>318186496
I do meet friends regularly and walk my dog. But once in a while I have breakdowns. And always have to occupy myself to forget my situation, which isn't easy.

Neet life simply isn't for everyone. The job market is absolutely awful where I live sadly
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>>318186687

>being this much of a wagekuck
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>>318186685
>>318186683
>only playing single player games and f2p brazillians ridden garbage
poor babies
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>>318186880
>being a parasite
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>>318181457
the only games you can ''enjoy'' as a neet are grindfests, everything else will be over quicker then a fart
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>>318186687
The only thing that's a pathetic existence is working a job you hate to get enough money to enjoy the things you love.

Either enjoy the things you love 24/7 without a shitty job or enjoy life by doing something that makes money and something you enjoy.
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>>318186880
>Being this much of a lowlife loser.

Sorry, but I only work 3 times a week.

So, when are you going to kill yourself? Considering there is no future for you.
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>>318181457

>society hates you for being a NEET that doesn't contribute to society
>don't feel like contributing to society because they hate you
....
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>pirate/emulate for $0 dollar video game enjoyment
>flashcarts + sales for cheap video game enjoyment

Or do all the above.
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>>318185775
Where the fuck do you live? Non-specifically, of course.
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>>318181457
The best NEET games are fucking free.
Stop being such a pleb.
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Do NEETs hold themselves hostage? I know one who is pretty much doing that; miserable when not entertained to the point of being unappreciative to his parents who take care of him but so sure that the world is shit and it's not worth improving. He expressed suicidal tendencies, which means that to tell him that the party is over and it's time to leave the house and deal with normies is when he'll end it.
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>>318181731

Thanks to humble bundle and autumn sale I walked out with around 50 games for about $40, and I play them on a $200 laptop, plus I got a PS3 and Wii-U

stop being retarded
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>>318186551
Maybe if you weren't a NEET for that long, your job wouldn't suck so much?
Nah, that's probably nonsense.
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>>318187623
US, SC. >>318182550 My setup.
>Cost of living in my city low as fuck
>For $600 I can pay my mortgage and all bills
>And I have 2 daughters with another harlot on the way
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>>318187260
Fuck I wish I only worked 3 times a week.
4 times here.
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>>318187885
What are the best NEET games?
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>>318188151
I'm jealous. I would be lucky to live comfortably on anything less than 2 grand a month. And that is assuming I have zero savings.
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>>318182208
>Nigga I have a 50k job
I make about 9k a year
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>>318188260
Dwarf Fortress
Roguelikes
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>>318181990
You must be buying the 3rd re-release of remasters then. Because Idk what game besides shit like duck dynasty is less than 50 new. Still cheap tho compared to what I make. Which is a basic retail merch worker.
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>>318182208
>50k a year
>something even a large minority of people have access to.
50k a year is good money. Most people here probably make 20k or less.
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>>318188281
How do you live
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video games aren't even expensive, I spend way more on cigarettes and alcohol
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>>318188265
Is the cost of living very high in your area? See I don't drink or go out either. I make around $800-$1000 every week too but I throw that in savings or improving my house. If your single I'd go get a trailer or cheap ass single room house to save money.
>Plan to add upper cabinets to my setup and removing that window to create a cabinet

Oh did you see that zinogre plush in my chair? It was $400...
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>>318188982
1000 bucks a week is good living. I barely make that a month.
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>>318188571
very humbly
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>>318188982

Why are you not investing, mutual funds muh nigga, absolute worst case scenario you get an extra dollar out of it but more than likely you'll double it after a year or so then it snowballs into lodsemone
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>>318189365
I'm sorry
All the best
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>>318188571

That kind of stuff amazes me, I have a friend who works three jobs and he barely has enough money.

however, he does stupid shit like buy ps4s and amiibos when he knows he doesn't have money then has to sell it back instead of just fucking saving his money.

He doesn't even drink or smoke and he's single, I have no idea how between three jobs he's struggling so hard when I make half of what he makes with one
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>>318188554
http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/25/1-in-2-working-americans-make-less-than-30000-a-year/

50k a year is a good salary, these days. About half of everyone in the US makes less than that.
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>>318189357
I work as an assistant manager at Quik Trip... "Starting" pay is $35k a year plus bonuses. The actually manager makes $80k+ and before taxes I'm making around $55k.
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>>318189887
Yeah. I need a management job. I've spent the last week with my management staff pushing fucking trainees on me while they dick around. Its bullshit.
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>>318189382
I have 10% of my paycheck going into my 401k along with my employer compensation of 5%. I also have $250 going into my investment account that my wife's father controls who works for Pioneer Investment.
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>>318190214

thumbs up
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It really isn't that expensive. As long as you can get the start up of building a midrange pc you can emulate like any game from NES to like Gamecube era plus steam sales and pirating if thats what you have to do.
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>>318190337
Steam sales and emulation mean that you really only have to pay a bunch of money once-- for your setup. Then you have thousands of games you can play, from emulation to every old PC game ever made, to indies and modern games.

It is the cheapest form of entertainment available, from a dollar to hour standpoint.
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>>318182098
Being NEET at any time of the year makes any sane adult feel suicidal
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>>318189560
You answered your own question, he's always buying shit he can't afford.
His credit is probably so shit and he's probably so stupid (maybe he's a secret gambler) that he'll never be out of debt.
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>>318181457
become a teacher
best of both worlds senpai desu
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mfw when I'm on disability and I can live off parents and NEETbux
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>>318190683
It's just that being NEET as an adult is dooming your future, and you know it.

You're early to mid 20s, you have no job, no income and no prospects. If you don't do something about it, your life isn't just going to stay bad, it's going to get worse-- your parents will die someday/your roommates will get tired of enabling you/you won't be able to afford your situation forever and you could potentially be on the street someday-- so wasting your time playing video games makes you feel guilty about it.

It's why, I imagine, everyone who is a NEET tries to get on disability or is hoping that welfare is extended to them at some point. They just don't want to have to worry about money, they're fine living a dull mediocre existence. Otherwise they would be trying harder to not be NEET.
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>>318181457
>playing videogames is expensive as fuck
You should specify.
Once you're out of college it's very affordable.
Now, I realize these days it's not uncommon to be in college into the late 20s, but anyone that has even a mediocre job can play all the games they want if that's what they want to do as a social hobby of choice.

I'm 24, make roughly $43,000 a year, and I can easily afford any game I want. This gen I have a high end PC, Wii U, and xbone.
The only one I don't have is PS4 and that's only because I don't see the point.
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>expensive as fuck

Not really.
Just wait for games to drop to 20-30 dollars, and only buy shit you actually want to play.

You could get Bloodborne and its expansion right now for 40 bucks and be busy for 80 hours or so. You could get a Disgaea game for 20-30 dollars and play that shit for literally hundreds of hours. Since you're probably 15 years old or something, you probably never got to play all those great SNES games, so you could emulate that shit right now, and if you want a more authentic experience, it'd cost you maybe 10 bucks to get a buffalo controller on Amazon and maybe some cables to connect to your TV or whatever.

You're probably one of those retards that plays western shit though, hence you drop 60 bucks on some 5 hour dudebro campaign and then bitch that it was expensive.
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>>318190683
>I feel bad if I'm not being a good goy and being "productive" to society
kek
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>>318190683
Do you feel like a NEET when you have a good job and get 2 weeks paid time off and you spend all that time jacking it to loli porn and playing videogames?
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>>318191000
>It's just that being NEET as an adult is dooming your future, and you know it.

that's why you kill yourself, normo
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>>318191000
>everyone who is a NEET tries to get on disability or is hoping that welfare is extended to them at some point.
Not every NEET tries to get on disability. Some of us just went into a hyperbolic time chamber of depression where we battled anxiety/apathy/self-hate for 1000 years. I use all my willpower to get more familiar with driving, more familiar with talking to strangers, go to the gym and lift weights while I wait for the next semester at my local community college to start.
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>>318181990
>Games cost $20-30 new.
No they don't.
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>>318191916
This is because you're a fakeNEET.

There's a world of difference between the kind of person that chooses the hikki life and someone who is forced into it.

If you talk about "getting better", or "battling fears", then you're a normie with social anxiety/autism, and you should probably just kill yourself.
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>don't have a job
>instead of playing video games just spend all my time on the internet not playing video games
>get a job
>suddenly want to play video games all the time
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>>318192196
Wow great argument fagtron you sure convinced me with those hot opinions.
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>expensive
LMAO
only to underage children
If you got a decent job its easy to get a PS4, an Xbox, and some games with it
Retro gaming is not that bad either, fuck pay $50 for a SNES or PS2 and get the games dirt cheap
Honestly Xbox Live & PSPlus are cheap too.
I bought a year of XBOX LIVE this year for like $30, that's $2.50 a month, that's not bad.
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>>318186914
>implying anon isn't a pirate
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>>318192196
>no true scotsman bullshit
Fuck off, I ruined the past 3 years of my life by doing absolutely nothing except wasting years of my life I could have spent at college having relationships and building life skills. I don't care if I'm not mentally ill enough to meet your super special deluxe definition for what already has a definition.
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>Have a good job
>Gain a lot of money
>Still plenty of time for vidya
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>>318192390

>Paying for internet

I don't care if I make $1 trillion a year, I will never pay a subscription to use my internet
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>>318192854
Are you stealing it from your neighbor or something?
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>>318192976

I knew someone would act retarded, I'm referring to LIVE/PSN

fuck off faggot
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>>318192656
There are plenty of real NEETs.

If you're the kind of person who regrets not having relationships, IT'S NOT THE LIFE FOR YOU.

If you think being a NEET is "giving up on life", then you're not really a NEET. You're a normie who is currently depressed.

No need to take it the wrong way. Plenty of people are normies. You were just dumb enough to misappropriate a way of life because it looked easy.
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>>318193114
depression isn't real.
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>>318193271
you happen to be an expert on this subject?
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>>318193359
yes
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>>318193535
Show your medical education certificate.
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>>318181990
Games are EIGHTY FUCKING DOLLARS NEW YOU FUCKING KEKOLD COCKGOBBLER
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>>318193114
I don't understand this retarded true/fake NEET thing. But whatever, I don't expect mentally ill Anons and normals on 4chan to have meaningful comprehension of this sort of thing.

NEET is an acronym. It doesn't stand for "people with debilitating illnesses who are permanently unemployed". You know what it stands for. There are plenty of people who are NEET who don't have to be. This true/fake distinction is some weird coping mechanism for denial. Denial that you could ever be independent/on your own/happy.

>oh, that Anon managed to stop being NEET because he was a normalfag and a fake NEET all along, that's why he succeeded and I didn't
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>>318193681
Not him, but the distinction is very clear. truNEETs are aesthetes who enjoy the NEET life. fakeNEETs are failed normies who don't enjoy the NEET life. It's the difference between /r9k/ (spend all day whining about nogf, crying about lost "opportunities", feeling "unproductive") and /jp/ (talk about hobbies, not giving a shit about societal expectations, etc).

No one cares what NEET originally meant or stood for. The term took on a meaning of its own.
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>>318193535
well thats not very convincing
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>>318193681
I understand that it's hard from your point of view. You did actually delude yourself into thinking this was the life for you, so it's natural to assume that everyone is like you, living a lie.

But that's not the case. I wake up every morning stoked as fuck to spend the next 16 hours jerking off and playing video games. It's literally all I want to do with my time. It's nuts that you'd do this for THREE YEARS without being happy. I'd give up in a week or two if I wasn't having any fun.

I couldn't think of anything more meaningless than developing more relationships with people I don't care about, or amassing money that I'd never have anything to buy with.
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>>318185914
>mfw teacher and still have summers off to play absurd amounts of vidya
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I hate spending money, I pirate everything, vidya, books, movies, if I could pirate food I would
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What's wrong with being 'normal'? 4chan is for everyone.
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The only thing I hate about being NEET is the >nomoney thing.

But that's because I'm bad with money.
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>>318185914
Exactly. You have no money so you just sit around all day. It's horribly depressing.
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>>318193953
The truNEETs and the fake NEETs tend to be the same people, based on my experience on 4chan over several years.
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>>318193625
no
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because videogames are a distraction
it was never meant to be a hobby
its closer to alcohol or tobacco than movies or music
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>>318194324
Something about normals being the equivalent to a loud mouthed muslim, always trying to convert people to their way of thinking and not budging on this for a second. At least from what I have seen.
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>>318193059
>be stupid
>get called stupid
>get pissy about it
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>>318181457
It's called being a well rounded individual.

The best way to enjoy ANYTHING is to be a hopeless shut-in who surrounds yourself exclusively with that thing. It just happens that it's especially easy to do that with video games.

Problem is, that enjoyment will only last as long as the novelty does. Eventually you will get burnt out and will long for something more stimulating.

Actually going out, having a life, friends, a job, basically being a "normie" and then setting aside time to play video games is a much better way to enjoy them than being a NEET.
This comes from experience.
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>>318195042
>having a life
Define "Having a life"

And you aren't allowed to use the words "Normal" or any form of "wageslave" type term
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>>318194839
But isn't thinking normies are all like this just as bad? The NEET I know thinks he's always right about everyone and that everyone is shit. He won't change his mind because to admit that people aren't always that bad is to admit that he is so much worse.
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>>318181826
this, I was basically full NEET for around 6 years after highschool and the only time I enjoyed playing games were the brief stints where I was working and only had a few hours a day after work before I got too tired. You go from being bored and jaded about vidya to daydreaming about getting home so you can play.
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>NEET and have all the time in the world for games.
>Don't want to play them.
>Get a job and spend all your time working
>No time to play them.

I'm beginning to think that games just take too much of a time investment assuming you want to live a normal life.
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>>318195273
>daydreaming about getting home so you can play.
And then not playing because you're busy dreaming.
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>>318188982
>I don't drink or go out but I do own a $400 plush toy

In same ways I'm envious of your simple way of life but in many other ways I'm not.
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>>318194082
>>318193953
Not even that guy but this is some real No True Scottsman nonsense.
Most people do not choose to be NEETs, it just kind of happens to you. You have no reason to be proud of it. Whether you enjoy it or life is immaterial-- it is non-beneficial for you to be one because you need money to survive, and unless you're on some form of welfare, you probably don't have any income.

You like not having any responsibilities? Great, you're human. I don't think most people like working and would rather stay home or goof off all day. It's just that if you're a NEET who have no other choice.
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>>318195192
Make some friends. Have a job. Cultivate a skill that isn't directly video game related. Go outside once every so often.
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>>318182208
>nigga i have 50k and i can afford videogames

No shit sherlock. Were you trying to make a point I didn't understand?
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>>318195374
Nobody is forcing you to play 6 hours a day
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>>318195393
true, you have a lot less time, but I would rather feel frustrated about having to quit because I need to sleep than feel like I am sinking into a hopeless pit of existential anxiety every time I look at the steam icon.
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>>318195192
have friends who you can physically touch
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>>318195543
>>318195678
None of those directly relate to being alive.
You can be a NEET and have friends.
A job isn't "a life." A job is lining somebody elses pockets in return for chump change, 70% of your day, in exchange for eight days off a month. What a trade!
You can go outside and still be a NEET.


The problem isn't being a NEET. The problem is that you guys are fucking retarded.
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>>318191021
>NEET logic
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>>318195192

Having various activities and a enjoyable entourage with whom you can share you interests and said activities.

Everything gets dull after a while. That's why you need to expand in the life derpatment.
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>>318195526
My life philosophy is that you might as well be dead if you're wasting half your day working.

There's just no reason for it in this day and age. The amount of money you need to survive in a first world country is basically nothing.

You only get a set amount of time on the planet, you should spend as little of it as possible on things you don't like.
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>>318181826
I fucking hate having too much time off with games. If I don't do something before hand I cannot sit down with a game.
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>>318194702
yeah, the "aesthete" bullshit is hardcore denial, I find it hard to believe the myth that these sad sacks propagate about there being a group of people who have found nirvana in their NEETness.
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If NEET life is so terrible, why do all normies look forward to retirement?
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>Someone makes money in an unorthodox way.
>College kiddies always get mad.

I don't understand how some people can care so much about how other's make their money.
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>Be jobless
>No money for games

>Have job
>Money for games, no time.

>My face when Neet fucks start crying about how hard their life is when they literally have it made
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>>318195818


Ok bud, you never had a job you liked. No need to be bitter.
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>>318181457
I have no idea why I saved this image, I never get a chance to post it.
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>>318195526
Look mate, truNEET and fakeNEET just denotes a difference in attitude. You can call this a no true scottsman, but you can't deny that the difference actually exists even if a lot of truNEETs are just delusional fakeNEETs, some people actually are truNEET. You aren't necessarily forced into a truNEET life

>>318196030
You can't believe it because you're a fakeNEET.
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I have a full time job and I have about 1-2 hours of vidya time a day.
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>>318195892
NEET logic is some twisted shit. It makes sense if you smugly plan to kill yourself when the party ends, but even then you are awful. But they think it's okay because they are punishing themselves. They take the high road to the end and leave their loved ones with the consequences.
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>>318196045
Because normalfags convinced themselves that it's OK to be a NEET when you save up enough money busting your balls, or get old enough where you can't bust your balls.


>>318196124
>Implying I like being forced to go to work.
Look fag, if I could do jobs as a hobby, sure, but every day? Fuck off, faggot.
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>>318195818
lol kill urself fag
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>>318196045
Working sucks too.

The real winners are those who have sustainable income and don't need to work.

Working for yourself is also a victory, but good luck making any money that way.
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>>318195954


And what about the people that loves working ?
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>>318196045
they look forward to it and a lot of them can't stand it when they actually get there because they don't know what to do with themselves. It takes a long time to unlearn the "worker" mindset and some people are incapable.

source: I talk to a lot of old retired people at my job.
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>>318196227
>Get told
>Resort to "fuck you"
TYPICAL NORMIE
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>>318195954
But you do realize working can be an enjoyable and fulfilling experience right? It's not easy to find such job, but possible
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>>318196256
Nobody loves working. Some particularly sad individuals enjoy watching money accumulate in their bank accounts, that's not the same as enjoying every minute of your job.

For every interesting day where you solve an exciting problem, there are dozens of days where you just go through the motions.
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>>318196375
Why not just get a fucking hobby, then, retard?

It's literally the same thing except you aren't forced to do it.
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>>318194187
And all school breaks as well. My dad was a teacher I envy the amount of time he has. Such a comfy job, works 9-3:30 besides odd meetings and such
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>>318196045
>having money saved up, wife, kids out of house, going on vacations, living the good life
As opposed to
>in bed for days, bad hygiene, bad health, lonely (no internet friends/gf's aren't real ones), poor as fuck, miserable

Hmmm
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>>318196193
What the fuck is this from?
Why is he playing Sonic with a fight stick?
What is he so upset about? That he's using a retarded controller for a game not meant for it?
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>>318195818
Where does a NEET get all their money? What do they give back?
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>>318196516
They don't get any unless they're self-employed (ie: not a NEET) or on welfare.

Which goes back to why being a NEET is shit and depressing: You have no income. If you have no income, you can't do anything because you need money to do literally anything in our society.
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>>318196516
Money depends on the NEET. /jp/ does the autismbux route.

>What do they give back?
>Giving things back
What do YOU give back?
What do half the people working give back?
Here's a little hint:
----Nothing----.
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>>318195818
You're failing to see the difference between "job" and "career".
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>>318196451
>For every interesting day where you solve an exciting problem, there are dozens of days where you just go through the motions.
that's the exact same thing that happens when you're a NEET though.

How many people are actually productive when living as a NEET? I sure wasn't. I had unlimited free time, so I spent my days sleeping, doing stupid shit on the internet, playing videogames and masturbating. no pressure to get things done, and nothing gets done.
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>>318196231
How do you get a sustainable income without working? Also there are some fun jobs out there, you just have to find them and want them enough.
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You won't have to worry about expensive video games for too long.

Triple A is dying. You will have all the cheap games you want.
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>>318196676
Career and job are synonyms you fucking dipshit.

ca·reer
kəˈrir/
noun
noun: career; plural noun: careers

1.
an occupation undertaken for a significant period of a person's life and with opportunities for progress.
synonyms: profession, occupation, job,
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>>318196649
>If you have no income, you can't do anything because you need money to do literally anything in our society.
Good goy, listen to what the TV tells you. You can't be happy without deluxe shaving cream and a new car.

It's not like the information age has created literally unlimited entertainment, all available for free, or something.
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>>318196494
>Be introvert
>NEET life is perfect

Must suck have those normie genes
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>>318196216


>What is part-time
>What is contractual jobs
>What is freelancer

Keep twisting around your own failures into poor attempts as self-justifications.
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>>318196092
why don't you just get a sidejob. Going 5-6 times to work per month isn't bad
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>>318196715
>How do you get a sustainable income without working?
Ask Notch.

>>318196778
Computers/the internet aren't free.
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>>318196658
They give back labor, for starters. Everything you enjoy is a product of someone's labor. What do you mean nothing?
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>>318196082
Define "Unorthodox". If you mean Buying/Selling Stock or some at home make your own time thing than more power too you. But fuck Welfare/Inherritance leeches, they shouldn't be getting money for just breathing and shitting.
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>>318194187
tell us about your pupils, what games do they like? are you the cool teacher?
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>>318196193
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>>318196658
They give back taxes so the government (by collecting taxes from their kids) will support them with healthcare and pensions when they retire.
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>>318196778
Electricity isn't free. Also who buys premium shaving creams?
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>>318196482

Because you'll drop your hobby just as you dropped everything else because you're a self-loathing fag.
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>>318196658
>What do half the people working give back?
>Here's a little hint:
>----Nothing----.

they give back the products you fucking use dumbass
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>>318196763
You're still not getting it, anon. Anyway, I'm 100% convinced that working a physically demanding job leads to more happiness than sitting in an office all day. I know some of you guys earn 100k+ working as sys admins and stuff like that but that job would be hell to me.
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>>318196892
>>Computers/the internet aren't free.
The cost of a decent computer is 500 bucks every 3 to 5 years.

You could literally scrape together that much in a month or two of welfare programs.

If you live with your family, i.e. you have no money at all, then you can use all the old shit they throw out after a year or two. And a house without internet is like a house without a TV.
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>>318195954
>My life philosophy is that you might as well be dead if you're wasting half your day working.
It depends on what you do, I agree 100% when it comes to wage slavery or ladder climbing bullshit, any situation where you are working toward someone elses ambitions, but I have worked for/volunteered at charities and other non profits where the work was incredibly satisfying and I never felt like I wasted my time. I think the key is that if you need money to survive, you are better to work on your own terms if possible, if you can't than you owe it to yourself to put every effort into putting yourself in that kind of situation.

If you can get by on inheritance or parents who will support you and you are actually happy with that than I guess there is no shame in it.
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>>318196778
>all that talk of thinking big by getting the next best phone, a new car or a nice diamond ring for the gf
>tfw all I want in my life is a motorcycle, some vidya and a job that doesn't require my full dedication for some 365 days of the year
Is that too much for me to ask for now? I don't have big plans to be the next best thing I just want to live my life the way I like and thats to be in the freedom of spontaneous living, without being restricted by the whims of others.
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>>318197104
>>318197058
>>318197042
>>318196923
>>318196823
Asshurt wagekeks.

Shouldn't you be in bed, buddy? Gotta get up early tomorrow for that Sunday morning overtime so you can save up money for Christmas gifts.
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>>318196830
Because if I was eligible to be Neet, I would be. One day I will find the secrets of how you autists keep getting the fabled Obama Bucks
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>>318196516
Parents
Welfare
Trust fund
Inherited rental property
>implying NEETs care about giving back
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>>318193114
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>>318181457
yard sales are the best...get games for like 2-5 dollars a piece
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>>318197242


You think there is no shame in parents that still have to support their child when he's past 30?
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>>318197373
Fucking kill yourself, you parasite.
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>>318197373
No way in fucking hell most neets on 4chan are trust fund kids or wealthy from an inheritance. The vast majority still live at home and get by on a meager monthly allowance.
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>>318195954
People who don't have that NEET mentality actually like making money. They like improving and the feeling of a job well done. There is a difference between happiness and meaning. Happiness lasts from moment to moment where meaning will last you a lifetime.
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>>318195954
That's a good philosophy on paper.

The problem is the real world doesn't work that way, unless you were born into wealth. You've got to support the good times somehow.

And even if you don't and you do end up in a situation where you can sit on your ass playing video games all day every day consequence free, you'll find you'll get jaded and tired of it sooner rather than later. You need to do something you'd rather not do to make the good times all the sweeter. That's just how the human brain works. It's shitty, but that's life.
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>>318197258
I feel you buddy. I'd be content with so little and yet even that's too much to ask for where I live 'cause everything's so expensive. Sometimes I think I should run off into a forest and live off of tree moss and snails.
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>>318181826
>>318181898
>>318182257
>>318195273
>>318195964
Fucking lol
Do you guys smash your cocks with hammers before you whack off so you can "appreciate it better"? You people are fucking broken
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>>318185914
1) Humans are social monkeys. Being at home alone for years can fuck you up.
2) Being poor means your needs are at the "food and shelter" stage rather than any of the personal fulfillment stages
3) Self hatred and boredom
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>>318197193
If you really believe in the product/company/whatever then working in an office is great. Otherwise working in an office is the most soul-destroying shit that has ever been invented by humanity.

I'd much rather work on a farm or work retail or some shit than have a generic office job I don't care about. Maybe it's just the grass looking greener?
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>>318197596
dud calm the fuck down christ
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>>318196508
He's been in prison for a long time. It's from a tv show called Rectify
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>>318197320


Staymad buddy. i'm prepping for my exhange in Norway and i just finished Bloodborne dlc this morning. But don't worry, eventually something good might happen to you too :^)
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>>318197527
its really in the eye of the beholder, if the parent and their child are both okay with the arrangement then I don't see how it's wrong. I think usually the parent that has a problem with it but I'm sure there are people who happily support their children into old age.
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>>318197042
Well technically my taxes go to helping jobless lazy niggers and NEETs. And baby boomers. And single mothers who use government benefits they don't need.
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Wagies have never

NOT ONCE

NOT IN ALL THE YEARS THIS COMIC HAS EXISTED

disproven this!

NOT EVEN CLOSE!
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>>318196482
Because it's easier to get paid for a job than a hobby.

Though, in all fairness, ideally you'll have both.
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>>318197721
I would say the same for retail.
literally the lowest brunt of job workers, you deal with the worst of people, you are easily replaceable and the company does everything they can to micromanage and keep you in line.
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>>318196508
It's from a show called Rectify.

He's been in prison since he was a teenager I think. He's crying because he's reminiscing about his lost young adult life that he never had.
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>>318185914
NEETs get depressed because society views them as losers. Women don't want them cuz they have no money, and since most people's social networks come from work/school, the NEET's have no one to talk to.

It's funny how everyone is saying playing games all the time leads to depression, but I guarantee you if they were getting a decent paycheck to play games, people would be fighting over that job like fucking dogs
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>>318197721
Agreed. I work construction and working a standard office job would be an absolute fucking nightmare.
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>>318197683
>He literally tricked himself in to believing that working a 6-3 gives him "meaning."
KEK
Busy making car parts in a factory for minimum wage, my man?

>>318197926
A hobby is just a job without a paycheck.
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>>318197905
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>>318197320
I know this is bait, but it's incredibly sad that there's an off chance of you seriously thinking that's an insult.
>>
QUESTION

In every single one of these threads, there is always some /pol/ guy ranting on about how you need to be useful to society

Can I ask where this line of thinking comes from? It sounds so far out and illogical
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>>318196508
It's from Rectify. Fucking fantastic show, one of the few that's ever made me cry.
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>>318197690
I prefer with a life on muted happiness over one with highs and lows.

>>318197683
Meaning is the kind of thing that really stupid people try and invent to stop them killing themselves. All that matters is your overall happiness.
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>>318197707
no, but I do get bored of masturbating when I do it too much and taking a break makes it way more fun.
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>>318185914
They're NEET because they're depressed, not the other way around. You have to realize this. It's a reactive lifestyle, not a proactive one — they were already fucked. And so is the case with most of 4chan users and why there is so much anger on here.
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>>318198050
It's not bait.

I see people doing it all the time, because Sunday overtime is double time, whereas Saturday overtime is only time-and-a-half.
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>>318198052
Indoctrination state run or jewish propaganda
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>over 500 unplayed games in backlog
>at least 1/6 of those are long retro RPGs that takes 200+ hours to complete
>only have about 4 hours a workday to play vidya

I gotta give credit to streamers who amass 10,000+ followers who barf endless streams of money at them... they figured it out. I just don't have the affable personality to be a good streamer.
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>>318198052
>Can I ask where this line of thinking comes from?
It's propaganda.
People that own companies need workers. How do you get workers to force other people to work for you?

Tell them they have to or they're losers parasite faggots with no meaning in life if they don't.
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>>318198138
>I prefer with a life on muted happiness

Without the highs and lows, you won't even have that.
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>>318197905


You're proof enough.
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>>318197905
Ok I know you're trolling, but here's a serious reply.

There's no ethical way to be a NEET unless you're lucky enough to have inheritance, you've already saved a lot of money from working, something like that. If you're dependent on the government to meet your basic needs of food and shelter then you're a piece of shit leech.

It's impossible for everyone in society to be a NEET, that's inherently unfair. Unless everyone should build their own house and subsistence farm or something. But is that really NEETdom at that point?
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>>318198318
>You can't be happy unless you're sad
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>>318198052
It's from the logical idea that since everything you have is made by other people, you need to give something back-- since others are helping you to survive you need to contribute, too.

The thing is, it's an outdated idea. There are too many people now and the work of a few provides for the lives of many. In the next two decades technology is going to advance to the point where only a few people need to actually do any labor and the majority of work is done by machines.
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>>318198052

if everyone was a NEET welfare monkey then society would collapse, that's where they're coming from. Work is shit, I agree, but a lot of people have to do it.
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>>318198006
Actually for most car part manufacturing places they pay upwards to $15-$20/hr. Hell even Bosch starts off at $17. And you can work however much hours your body can handle. And its double time on the weekends if you want to work. My friend compares the place to Netflix because you can choose your own hours and when you wanna work. But you have to work at least 40 hours a month to stay an employee.
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>>318198415
Essentially yes. It's just how the human mind works.
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>>318182731
>having the time to do whatever I want
When you do the same thing every single day at every waking moment of the day, it becomes not only dull, but it makes you realize how empty your life is.

How do YOU even function?
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>>318183524
Nice waifu dude. When you will merry her?
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>>318198518
Well, I'm sad that I had to listen to your retarded opinions on working.

Gimmie my happiness.
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>>318198415
how can you tell what happiness is if you have nothing to contrast it with?
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>>318198052
You can't survive without society. You use their food, their shelter, their water. If you're not completely self-sufficient and living out in the woods somewhere, then you are obligated to be useful to society. Otherwise, someone's getting cheated somewhere.
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>>318197596
lmao, they really programmed you hard
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>>318198365
>ethical
Whoops, looks like you just said something utterly retarded!

A capitalist society, like the one you live in, is based entirely on the suffering of others. In order to make money, people must lose money. Lots of little worker ants support a few fat cats at the top, and are lied to with delusions like "if you work hard for long enough, you'll make it to the top one day!".

Thus, the only ETHICAL response to blatant manipulation would be to completely ignore the entire system. If you have a job, you're literally murdering people.
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>>318198426
capitalism is a flawed system just like every other system
eventually we'll have to move onto something else, or just have our corporate overlords take over and keep the machine going
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>>318197905
This argument is stupidly reductionist.

There's more to it than just being either a stupid wage slave or a glorious NEET freedom fighter.

I don't like working my job and I'm leaving to be self sufficient as soon as possible, but you need money to make money, and in the meantime, it's nice to be able to buy vidya and other goods whenever I want and not have to worry about where that money is coming from
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>>318188358
>>318192005
>>318193670

http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Street-Fighter-IV-PlayStation-3/dp/B00E44EZYA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448751088&sr=8-1&keywords=ps3+street+fighter+4
Street Fighter 4 Ultra is $15 new.

http://www.amazon.com/UNCHARTED-Greatest-Hits-Dual-sony-playstation3/dp/B0055202HE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448751129&sr=8-1&keywords=ps3+uncharted
Uncharted 1 & 2 $23

BLOPs 2 is $26
3D Dot Game Heroes is $24
Dishonored is $13, $22 if you want the DLC on disc
Both Dark and Demon's Souls are under $20

These games are not used prices, thus new. If you haven't played them they're new to you.
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>>318198415

That's not what he's saying.

Life's like a pendulum between sadness and happyness.

They don't have to be present at the same time.
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>>318198665
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/free-rider/

Pretty much invalidates your entire argument.
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>>318198557
You've just perfectly described having a job.
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>>318198426
>It's from the logical idea that since everything you have is made by other people, you need to give something back-- since others are helping you to survive you need to contribute, too.

Give back? I already paid for my shit, I don't owe them anything. I just don't understand the logic and have never met anyone in real life whose moral compass comes from their supposed debt to society.

>>318198470
I'm not saying everyone should be a neet, but there is absolutely something wrong with your brain if being a useful member to society is one of your driving motives. Providing for your self or your family or having nice shit or just enjoying a hard days work? Sure. But..

>IM A WORTHLESS PEON WHO SHOULD KILL MYSELF UNLESS IM DOING SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE FOR SOCIETY

Just doesn't make sense to me
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>>318184257
Get a new ISKeker?
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>>318198342
/r9k/ as a whole is all the proof we need.
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Who study link here (centreline for Aussies)?
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>>318198604
It's just the human condition dude. I mean think about it, without death the only emotion would be existing.
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>>318198415
Well yeah. You can't have hot without cold, north without south, yes without no. The universe works as a polarity. Without an understanding of the absence of pleasure, there is no understanding of pleasure.
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>>318198684
>If you have a job, you're literally murdering people.
Whatever you need to tell yourself to keep being useless to everyone else.

>>318198795
It is possible to get a different job, you know.
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>>318198787
You understand that the article is called "The Free Rider PROBLEM" and not "Free Riders Are Great", right?
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>tfw born too early to live in a post-scarcity society where we can just enjoy existence with no worries of food or shelter
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>>318198557
By having more than one hobby?

Are you not doing the exact same thing by waking up, going to work, and then coming home for vidya? You're at work doing the exact same thing.

>>318198623
If I don't feel bad why should I care if I can't directly define it?

>>318198878
I think you're fucking brainwashed.

>>318198879
I don't have to understand pleasure to understand that "This doesn't feel bad."
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>>318198787
>http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/free-rider/


Just like any society model, only works in theory.
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>>318198795

If you're doing the same thing constantly at your job, congrats, you've failed to find a career.
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>>318198746
>If you haven't played them they're new to you.
That's not exactly what new means, motherfucker.
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>>318198987
That society will never and can never exist.

Also

>You were born just in time to see parasites complain that they actually have to earn good things in life
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>>318198969
I know, but NEETs generally don't care if you call them parasites, so your appeal to the collective good won't work on them. The /pol/tard is just wasting his breath.
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>>318198803
Providing for yourself and your family has the side effect of you being useful to society. For example, your kids get involved with sports and you volunteer as a coach or something.
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>>318198962
>It is possible to get a different job, you know.
Is is possible to get a different hobby, you know.

>>318199051
CAREER AND JOB ARE SYNONYMS FAGGOT

THEY MEAN THE SAME THING
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>>318198987

Please do it.
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>>318199035
>I don't have to understand pleasure to understand that "This doesn't feel bad."
No, what you need is an understanding of something that does feel bad. And so the polar nature of everything continues.
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>>318199035
You are beyond help, seriously. I'd wager you'll kill yourself in the next five years out of crippling depression.
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>>318198987
>this dumb kid thinks post-scarcity will ever be achieved
In order for such a thing to come to pass, the 1% would have to agree to step down from positions of power for no benefit.

And the brainwashed masses would have to choose a better way of life today over the potential of being a 1%er in 20 years. Newsflash, the lottery is more popular than ever, people won't make that decision.
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As someone who has both done the NEET lifestyle and been a wage slave. I gotta say both have their positives and negatives.
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>>318197993
NEETs get depressed because they get stuck inside themselves and get to contemplate their empty lives all day. They become self obsessed with trying to justify themselves while other people actually make something.
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>>318199035
>I don't have to understand pleasure to understand that "This doesn't feel bad."
you would understand what the word bad meant in that scenario, proving his point.
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>the best and easiest way to fully enjoy videogames is by being a NEET.
This is false, and that's coming from someone who has been a NEET. "Absence makes the heart grow fonder" applies to more than just people.
It's why Dr. Pepper tastes so good. No one religiously drinks it like they do Coca Cola or Mountain Dew. So it goes with videogames. When they're the only thing that you actually fucking do, it becomes work.

This is why I can't stick with any mmorpg. I refuse to turn it into my job.
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>>318198848
I love how the US has no equivalent to the dole/worker's comp. Can't find a job? Not our problem, punk.

There's unemployment benefits, but they're temporary assistance for people who are between jobs, ie people who already worked in the past. There's nothing for people who are long term unemployed.
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>Everyone must contribute to society or they are a parasite!
>Finding a decent paying job is like winning the lottery, have to go through the scrutiny of assholes who will write you off at the slightest imperfection
>They just hire their moronic friends/relatives

Seriously whats the point. They say every man must work and blah blah blah, but then you are literally denied at every step.
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>>318199178
This. It's literally against human nature. It's why communism doesn't work in reality.
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>>318199051
What exactly is your idea of a career where you don't do the same thing for the rest of your life? Are you majoring in Applied Tomb Raiding? Perhaps a minor in Wizardry Studies?
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>>318198969
Also, the free rider problem is a problem for *you*, the person who is trying to convince the free rider to not be a free rider, not the actual free rider.
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>>318199178
>the 1% would have to agree to step down from positions of power for no benefit.
not only that they would have to give up the possibility of being godlike overlords in the future due to life technologies that only they will be able to afford
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welfare life is the best life desu
I can buy anything I want + infinite time
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>>318199297
>send in application/resume
>never contact manager
>don't get job

WOW THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AND COMPLETELY UNFAIR.
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>>318199035
You are beyond delusional my friend.
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>>318199151

I'LL DO IT
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>>318199297
It feels weird that I got a good job without even trying. I just kinda fell into it. It's because I impressed one guy once.
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>>318199120
>You should not only have a job, but also volunteer and waste more time contributing.

Wanna volunteer to do my job for me so I can volunteer to put my ass in my chair? It's fulfilling :^)

>>318199260
>>318199156
If being ignorant means I don't have to experience bad shit, sign me up.

>>318199158
What's wrong, wagekek? Did I shake your foundations?

>>318199421
>"Apply here for job"
>"ok"
>Do so
>Wow why didn't you do extra work :^)?

>>318199436
>Get btfo
>Can only respond with "delusional"

Eat shit wageslave
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>>318199297
>Finding a decent paying job

This is one of the things I don't get. Why do people think they are magically entitled to a decent paying job? You join in for shit wage and prove you are worth a fuck, then get promoted to decently paid status
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>>318199514
>Did I shake your foundations?

Did I shake your belief in being useless to everyone around you?
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>>318199140
>CAREER AND JOB ARE SYNONYMS FAGGOT

>THEY MEAN THE SAME THING

I guess? Technically?
They have different connotations though.

A job is something you do because you HAVE to, and your own personal fufillment is put on the back burner

A career is, ideally, making money doing something you love to do, or are okay with doing for the rest of your life, and you worked hard to make that a reality.

Flipping burgers at McDonalds is a job. Nobody wants to do it, no kid lies awake at night dreaming of the day when he can do it, but it gets done anyway because people need the money. That's a job.

Doctors and Lawyers and those ilk went to school for years for the chance to do what they do. They make a lot of money and, ideally, find fulfillment in what they do. That's a career.
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>>318199537
>You have to eat shit before you can eat real food.
That's not how it works.

Even your example doesn't work because people that aren't worth shit get promoted all the time over people that are.

Also nepotism is real, kid.
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>>318199358

>human nature
>implying superior robot AI won't guide us to post-scarcity
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>>318199514
>wageslave
I've never even had a job dork. I'm in the same situation as you. Self reliance is a tremendous relief but sadly it's hard to achieve in the modern day where you need money for just about everything, at least in the US.
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>>318182834
Fuck off cancer
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>>318199514
Your too far down the rabbit hole to help at this point. I'm sorry, I guess.
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>>318199514
>If being ignorant means I don't have to experience bad shit, sign me up.
You won't get to experience the good either, because the only completely ignorant existence is non-existence. i.e. you will be dead. Sure you want that still?
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>>318199514
>Wow why didn't you do extra work :^)?
Why would I hire you over the guy who did contact me? Of course I won't hire the person who does the absolute minimum.
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>>318199514
>Wow, why didn't you do extra work?
To show that you care and that you actually want a job? People don't usually hire others unless they actually want the job.
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>>318199514
>If being ignorant means I don't have to experience bad shit, sign me up.
but you aren't ignorant, you do know the difference and you do experience bad shit, and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference if you didn't.
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>>318199537
You want me to contribute to society then you need to pay me decently. I'm not taking a soul sucking job for shit pay. Nepotism will prevent my promotion anyways. There is no working your way up the ladder anymore.
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>>318199618
That is absolutely how it works and nepotism is such a minor occurrence that its a none issue. And it is in no way ethically wrong

I've never once held a job where people who actually bust their hump, didn't get rewarded. It might be true of low tier shit like a fast food joint or a grocery store. But get a real job and your work ethic will carry you far
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>>318199537
>people that want to be able to live cant just get a job
lol @ america
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>>318199061

So you want the most recent games without having to pay triple that? Why? What are you gaining by doing that?
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>>318199663
>I unironically enjoy paying for games
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These threads always seem silly, especially from the people who glorify either lifestyle. I've done the NEET life before, and interacted with people who have. They were one of the most depressed gatherings I have ever seen. Depression was rampant and I saw more than one evicted. On the other side people saying you have to contribute in everything you do are just as terrible, distracting themselves from the fact their lives are empty.

One is distracting, one is forced to examine. Both lives can be shit or great, it depends on the person.
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>>318199609
>>Doctors and Lawyers and those ilk went to school for years for the chance to do what they do. They make a lot of money and, ideally, find fulfillment in what they do. That's a career.
>He actually believes this.
Did you fall for the doctor meme, my man?

>>318199687
>>318199672
>>318199826
>N-No you have to feel bad like I do!

>All these retards that don't understand the concept of "I don't need to understand the difference if I'm not getting the bad bits"

>>318199695
>>318199701
Nobody actually cares. It's a job. If you tell me to do the minimum I'll do the minimum.
You tell what to do at a job and I'll do it. I'm not going to go out of my way to do extra work for the *chance* at an extra reward.

Get fucked wageslave.
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>>318199876
>get a real job

We are right back where we fucking started. You guys are such fucking morons.
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>>318181457
>playing videogames is expensive as fuck.

They're not

>the best and easiest way to fully enjoy videogames is by being a NEET.

Yeah if you play an MMO or something
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>>318186514
Kill yourself
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>>318199876
>But get a real job and your work ethic will carry you far

"Work ethic"

You mean
>Doing my job you pay me for
right?

You don't actually mean
>Doing my job you pay me for, and giving you a little bonus on the side for free
right?

Oh wait that's exactly what you mean.
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>>318199421
>sent in 100+ applications, applying for literally every place whether they said they were hiring or not
>tailored resumes to be custom for each one
>spend time calling managers, visiting places and asking to talk to employer, revisiting later
>Get interviewed all of 3 times and called back all of twice
>Never got the job at a single one of these places, eventually got a job through nepotism
>Six months later I and a few other employees are victims of downsizing, the place didn't want to pay our salaries
>Back to step 1
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>>318199989
A truNEET is incredibly unlikely to want to reach out and talk to other people, even NEETs, so you've got a large bias in your sample.
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>>318200003
>You tell what to do at a job and I'll do it. I'm not going to go out of my way to do extra work for the *chance* at an extra reward.
Ok? I'm not talking about extra reward, I'm talking about the hiring process. Hell, I'm at work right now shitposting. I do sever maintenance, my life is 90% sitting around on 4chan or playing shit on my company issues laptop.

I feel like i have a pretty good life. I can afford what ever I want and all I have to do is sit in a comfortable office chair 8 hours a day trust me, this chair cost like 4k, I have no idea how our company justifies buying these.
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>>318199989
NEETdom doesn't cause depression, it's the other way around.
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>>318199989
As true as this might sound your post will be ignored anon because this thread is all down hill from now on. The rampant temper tantrums from both sides have reached the point of being quite palpable.
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>>318200003
>for the *chance* at an extra reward
It's not an extra reward you fucking dipshit, it's getting the job itself. Nobody will hire your lazy ass.

A comparison:

Someone in a game offers you for them to be their companion, and they really fucking want to be your companion and they ask you about it every time you're in town. Then there's a person that mentioned it one time, but also sounded like they didn't really want to go traveling with you.

You'd pick the person who wouldn't want to travel with you?
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>>318200003


>Thinks everything in life is a meme?

Did you fall for the NEET meme my friend ?

Just order that helium tank already.
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>>318200206
My contact with them was through steam games, one of the largest samples were online play groups coming from 4chan itself. Unless you're saying truNEET don't play multiplayer games. Of course, you can just change the definition of truNEET to fit what ever you need to make my statement wrong. I'm not gonna participate in a no true scotsman.
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>>318200224
What kind of fucking chair costs 4k? I've got an Aeron, thank god for the dotcom bubble, only cost me 300 bucks.
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>>318181457
I have a theory, that in 30 years all the girls will be good at playing video games and the boys will be average.

Why? Because so many girls are streaming with their tits hanging out, making bank. They get to sit around all day and play games. More girls will catch on to this, even if they don't game, they'll do it for the dosh.

So mark my words, come 2045 we'll all be at work slaving for money while all of our wives are at home finger-banging themselves on webcam while doing speed runs of Final Fantasy XXIII; they'll probably make more money than you too.
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>>318200206
so how do you know they exist? this is how folklore gets started.
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>>318200186
Did you not graduate high school or something?
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If you openly define yourself as NEET, you should be banned.
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>>318199537
HAHAHAHA you are getting it wrong.

you are not "entitled" to anything.

having a good job is COMPLETELY 100% up to you. it requires effort. a lot of effort.

it can be done, others have done it. i have done it. you're just not doing it properly
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>>318200224
>Guy advocating for getting a job is a guy doing what I'm doing right now.
Yeah no wonder. You don't even do anything, parasite.

>>318200286
It's more like
>Hey fags I need a companion.
>I'll do it.
>I'll do it, too.
>Okay I'll decide later.
But then the one fag finds you at the tavern later and sits down at your table
>HEY MAN YOU PICKED ME RIGHT?
>HEY BUDDY C'MON
While the other guy's at home
>Well he said he'll pick later.

>>318200326
Helium tanks aren't good for suicide because they air them down to prevent that, now.
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>>318181457

>be NEET
>play games, read books, and lift all day
>get social anxiety from being inside for months on end

>go to uni
>no longer have time to play games or do any of the things I like to do except in small amounts
>social anxiety is gone from forced social interaction, but sink into depression

Why IS life so cruel?
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>>318200361
I'm sure they do, I love MP games. But I've never had any desire to join some autistic 4chan group, those things are filled with teenagers.

Having to talk to people on a semi-regular basis is just draining, and not worth it. I'd rather play with pubbies.
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>>318200003
I'd be willing to come around to your way of thinking if you're in your late 20s to early 30s. If not, get fucked kid.
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>>318200450
No, but I did get a GED.
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>>318200003
>N-No you have to feel bad like I do!
Who says I feel bad? I'm just telling you you're a moron for thinking that life can exist without the conditions of a polarity in place. A life without bad is a life without good. There is no "ignorance" of one without ignorance of the other.
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>>318200487
whoa calm down there autismo
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>>318200487
>Yeah no wonder. You don't even do anything, parasite.
I get my job done. It jus doesn't require as much time as they play me fore.

>>318200515
Why don't you have time? When I was at uni free time was fucking easy to find. Unless you're going to a top school you don't even have to attend class.
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>>318200515
Are you working on the side or something?
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>Graduate high school
>Society turns around
>"Okay, fag, you did it. Grats. Now, if you want live you NEED to go to university or college."
>"O-Okay."
>"By the way, that thing you NEED? Cough up the cash for it."
>"How do I do that?"
>"Debt. Loans that lead to debt. Or waste your youth at a dead end job so you can line my pockets :^)"
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>>318200487
>HEY MAN YOU PICKED ME RIGHT?
>HEY BUDDY C'MON

If you're being obnoxious, that's how you play it out. You just call the manager of whatever place you applied to and ask how the application is going, wait for an answer then say you'll check back in a day or so to check in again.

but you'll probably take what I said, and twist it to be that I'm constantly calling to pester the manager, while taking a whole three minutes out of my day to ensure I get a job.

I'm done with this thread. You guys are beyond help. I seriously don't understand how one can do this and not look at themselves in the mirror and absolutely hate what they see.
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>>318200576
>Having to talk to people on a semi-regular basis is just draining, and not worth it. I'd rather play with pubbies.
It's impossible to play grand strategy regularly or with any kind of quality without a regular group.
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>>318185784
How?
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>>318200408
>So mark my words, come 2045 we'll all be at work slaving for money while all of our wives are at home finger-banging themselves on webcam while doing speed runs of Final Fantasy XXIII; they'll probably make more money than you too.
made me giggle, thx m8
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>>318200286
>Someone in a game offers you for them to be their companion, and they really fucking want to be your companion and they ask you about it every time you're in town.
Those girls are great.
I like when they force you to let them come with you and don't let you leave without them. I understand it's just a game mechanic but it's the kind of thing that doesn't really happen in real life.
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>>318181457

> get full time job
> no time or energy at all to enjoy videogames, the only thing in life that sort of makes me happy

just kill me already

I don't want to keep living like this
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>>318200753
>tfw graduated
>tfw no debt
>tfw scholarships are given like fucking candy on halloween if you look for them
I'm a pasty white fucker and I got one that was SUPPOSED to be for asians because no asians applied.
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>>318200780
It's alright, man. Head to bed.

We know you don't get any time off, because it's bad for the company, and they're doing you a solid by giving you eight days a month unless forced to give extra holidays by the govt.

Oh but, don't forget, we're going around asking for OT every week!
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>>318200369
>I've got an Aeron
>only cost me 300 bucks.
I just got one for $7 from a military surplus auction
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>>318199989
I want somebody to post something like this in every thread with this subject, the debate is meaningless.
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>>318200985
I'm off today and tomorrow actually. But yeah, don't forget to contribute nothing to society for the rest of your life and wallow in the swirling depression that is your entire life!
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>>318200707
>>318200724

I'm doing pre-med which takes up a lot of my time since I'm not very smart. And when you start uni after being a NEET for years, you have to get used to not being able to play games whenever you feel like for hours a time.
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>>318200780
Don't worry. The people who love this lifestyle and aren't trying to change it are delusional. The rest of us know we're fucked if we stay like this, and we are regularly depressed about how shit our lives are.
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>>318201130
I'd hope you're off, fag. It's Saturday. If you aren't you're a bigger kek than I thought actually falling for the overtime meme.
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>>318200003
>doctor meme
Very few would become a doctor if it wasn't fulfilling in some way to them. The pay is great because you have to deal with disgusting shit and horrible hours. Becoming a doctor is a terrible idea if all you want is a high salary.
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>>318201130
>>318201184
>these two faggots are still going at it
Why don't you two just book a room in a love hotel and hate fuck the shit out of each other already.
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>>318200604
I'm actually gonna be taking the math portion for my GED this Tuesday. Is it difficult at all?
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Quick question:

How many of you wageslaves saying that jobs are easy live in a big city?
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>>318201162
>I'm a failed normie and so is everyone else
so salty
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>>318201285
Mate I know like twelve women that ALL became nurses purely because it pays well and they're constantly hiring.

Most dudes would go the doctor route because being a male nurse is the equivalent of being a professional homosexual.
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>>318201297
The math section was the only part I struggled with and it's because I'm fucking awful at math. I did well enough on the other parts that I was able to fail the math and still pass the overall GED with flying colors though.

It took my brother several attempts to get his GED though. He felt like an idiot.
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>>318201145
Yes, being dumb is an issue. Ah well, good luck m8.

>>318201305
>How many of you wageslaves saying that jobs are easy live in a big city?
I work in a big city, not live in one, does that count? Living in the city is way too expensive.
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>>318200876
No joke, that's why people get a wife and kids. Life is only really fun if you live simply and travel the world or you manage to become rich at a young age. Being in the middle and doing the standard job, house, wife and kids thing just sucks.
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>>318201386
I don't care about being a normie. I just want the security that I'm not going to be on the street someday. All I really want to do with my life is travel, take pictures, read, write, and play videogames.
I don't care about being rich, relationships seem like more trouble than they're worth, and I'd make an awful father-- so those things don't concern me.
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>>318201305
Who is this demon of semen?
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>>318201775
thats a boy anon
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>>318201520
I took the GED Ready test on their website for 6 bucks and I got a 174. Had to dust off the cobwebs in my brain thinking back to fucking Junior year but it wasn't too bad. Although the actual test is like twice as long so I'm not looking forward to it.
>>
>Build everything far apart because fuck you.
>Therefore if I want to hold a job I need transportation
>If I want transportation I need money
>If I want money I need a job
>Work a shit job until I can buy a car
>Use that car as a means to get a less shit job
>Now have to constantly put all the money I make towards "Bills" and my car that I don't want but NEEDED to buy so I can "live"
>No money
>No time
>No vidya
>No meaning
>Useless hunk of shit in my driveway I don't even want but need to have that constantly sucks money out of my pocket
Nice job, wagekeks. Real fuckin riveting lifestyle you got here.

>>318201668
>Want to travel
Sorry buddy, we can't afford to give you time off to do what you want to do with your life.
Maybe next year ;)

>>318201775
Anzujaamu
A Turkish (I think) cosplay lady with an adorable voice.
https://www.youtube.com/user/anzujaamu
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>>318197905
disproven what?
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>>318201668
>318201775
That lifestyle is possible. You could work for a cruise line company or teach abroad. The key is to find a job where your room and board is mostly covered. I know it's not easy to do but it is possible.
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>>318201935

my dream is to get a job in the city so I can finally get rid of my car
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>>318202148
And the trade off is living in a high-cost apartment because houses cost too much, living next to niggers and thieves, and in an incredibly loud environment with fuck all nature!

What a trade!
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>>318201935
>Build everything far apart because fuck you.
Oh my god seriously. California is a piece of shit because of this, at least where I live.

Europe's great in this regard 'cause in my hometown you can seriously just walk everywhere or take the train/bus. Bakeries/Cafes/Supermarkets everywhere and cheap housing, it was great.
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>>318201935
cars do not cost that much
get a used corolla or something

>>318202148
>live in a city
>it now costs more to actually live there and use public transportation than owning a car does
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>>318182208
What do you do anon?
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>>318202259
That's literally all of North America.

>>318202285
>Cars don't cost that much
>buy a used car that will break down more often and need you to dump money in to fixing the parts that grow old and break
kek
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>>318197905
did NEET go super saiyan
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>>318182208
You must live in a really high cost area. 50k is a nice salary in most cities.
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>>318199864
This really is the most astounding thing to me, not even trying to argue. But lots of younger people genuinely have this mentality. They just don't want to work unless they are getting paid super well for it. You don't understand that as a boss, I'm not going to pay you super well until you show that you are worth it.

>>318199879
They can't just automagically get a high paying job. No one is entitled to that.

>>318200468
No, I fully agree. Not sure about other countries but here you future is fully, 100% in your own hands
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>>318202148
that's until you realize that public transportation isn't as comfortable and convenient as car. except now you spend hours in traffic.
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>>318202474
>I'm not going to pay you super well until you show that you are worth it.
And I'm not going to break my fucking back for shit pay.

>You have to drag your dick in the mud before you can live comfortably
Why the fuck would I even bother?
I'll just tell the government I have fucking autism like /jp/ and get neetbux.
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>>318202381
Yeah the NEET became an ascended being since he doesn't have to work a full time job anymore, its little wonder why baldy was jealous about his sweet aesthetics also its missing the part where NEET-kun is fucking wagekeks gf.
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>>318201935
>Anzujaamu
Many thanks.
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>>318194187
you ever fuck one of your students?
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This thread is honestly depressing me. You're all making so many fucking excuses as to why you can't get off your fucking ass!

>wageslave
>I've tried
>Corrupt America
>Do you even live in the real world?

Holy fucking shit you guys are lazy. Unlike you and most of the people in this thread, apparently I do live in the real world. It's not hard to get a fucking minimum wage job.

>I don't want to work up the rope

shortened version: I don't want to work

Holy fuck if you don't want to work I don't know what to tell you. You need to get your fucking shit straight. You know what happens when your parents die and you can't live off them? You HAVE to live like shit at your minimum wage job that you "hate".

When you could've just fucking gotten a job, worked up to $9-$20/hour, and then when you realize your making money and you like your co-workers your happy.

Unless you breakout on youtube or twitch or some shit like that, you only really need a highschool diploma.
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>>318202645
>I'll just tell the government I have fucking autism like /jp/ and get neetbux.
This is literally the only sensible thing to do nowadays, fuck all idiots who willingly sacrifice their lives for jew bosses.
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>Work 60-70 hour weeks
>Usually only get Sunday off
I have no time for anything, I wish I could be neet.
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>>318202645
>I'll just tell the government I have fucking autism like /jp/ and get neetbux.
You realize this isn't really a thing right?
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>>318202645
>I'm not going to pay you super well until you show that you are worth it.
>And I'm not going to break my fucking back for shit pay.
well then no job for you since an overstayer will take that and ask for more.
>claiming autismo just to get free money from gov
lol sure thats gonna work out real well for you
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>>318202645
>And I'm not going to break my fucking back for shit pay.

No one is asking you to break your back

>Show up on time
>When you don't have something to do, be wiping something down or TRYING to look busy
>Actually communicate with me when there is a crisis and you need time off, rather than just calling in sick the day of

There you, you are now better than 90% of your co workers. Now if you're actually willing to do new shit I put you on, you'll be going places. But you sound like one of those faggots who will refuse any tasks offered to you because "Thats not what I was hired for" or "Clean? You're going to pay extra right?"
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>>318202803
>You know what happens when your parents die and you can't live off them? You HAVE to live like shit at your minimum wage job that you "hate".
Nope, I can live on autismbux. Guess that you are just too stupid to get them like sensible people do.
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>>318202849
>tfw 36 hour weeks
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>>318202857
It is a thing, but it's harder to pull off than simply telling the government you have autism.
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>>318202803
>all this pent up frustration
first up calm the fuck down anon your not impressing anyone and second you don't realize exactly what kind of people you are even talking to here.
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>>318202916
But that isn't the RIGHT thing to do! We're none of you grown up with any morals or anything?

>Le live off the government lol

Fuck you. I pay money every year so that you guys can fucking do nothing because you claim its better than doing something, even though your all fucking depressed.
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>>318181731
If you're a PC gamer, and have half a brain, it's one of the cheapest hobbies ever. There are so many sites to buy third party keys for dirt cheap these days; and of course you can always just fucking pirate everything.
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Shit thread.
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>>318203045
Yeah. It's possibly to get the government to pay your way, but hell that lifestyle is destitute. I grew up on that lifestyle, it was hell.
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>>318181457
>tfw mi younger sister is NEET and it's probably my fault

i gave her my old computer, showed her internet and vidya when she was little

now she's 25 fat virgin that has thousands hours in dota, hasn't worked a day in her life, is scared of outside world and has no intention to do anything about it.

worst part is i will have to take care of that lazy shit when our parents die because there's no way she'll be able to support herself.

it's really fucking depressing.
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>>318203053
I honestly just need to stop browsing /v/. 75% of the people here are just absolute shit, and 15% are impressionable kids that aren't getting the right messages at all.
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>>318182208
What are you retarded nigger? I work full time min wage af 9 bucks and still don't break 15k
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>>318203113
>morals
Society is built on the skulls of the poor. You're literally making things worse by contributing to the corrupt system.
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>>318203113
>muh moral spooks
Read some John Mackie. Also, none of your morals matter to an amoral person even if they did believe in a subjective or objective morality
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>>318203240
kek
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>>318202870
>Because Jimmy eats shit you should eat shit, too :^)
Yeah, nah.

>>318202914
>Do my job so well there's nothing to do
>Have to invent more work for myself
Yeah nah.

>Implying cleaning isn't part of my job

You know how many times you'd get "Hey why aren't you workin, my man? Go clean!" when you ask your boss for shit to do, even after I've fucking made the place spotless?
If you fucking useless cunts are going to make it so I run out of work because I'm not a fucking retard, don't bitch at me when I lean back and relax because THERE'S NOTHING TO DO. I'm not going to clean the clean floor I already cleaned five minutes ago.
Standing around pretending to work is harder than fucking working to begin with.

If you're going to pay me to pretend to fucking work why am I even here?

>>318203113
kek. Morals? What do I owe you, fag?
You think society is built upon morals? In a society where people stab everyone else in the back to get ahead?
Holy shit, gas yourself.

>>318203198
Nice try fag.
>Can't let anyone else get in on my autismbux
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>>318203270
I suggest you do that or at least steer clear of bait threads because they will either rot your brain or turn you into a cynic like the vast majority.
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>>318201935
>Turkish
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>>318202914
>"Thats not what I was hired for" or "Clean? You're going to pay extra right?"
How is this incorrect, exactly?
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>>318203462
>Nice try fag.
You really think the government is gonna pay you enough to live comfortably?
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>>318203296
>>318203392

You people were literally the kids in Highschool that kept telling everyone they were smarter than everyone, and whether they were trying or not the test scores and such never backed up what they said.

>"I'm a special kind of intelligence"

Just stop. If you're that intelligent why are you wasting your time being a NEET? If you're that intelligent, wouldn't you rather get a job where you can boast your intelligence (just like you did in highschool)

I can't comprehend if I'm just too old for this kind of thinking or if the human race really will only last for another 500 years.
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>>318203462
>le shit eating maymay
What is with the shit eating comparisons is some 85% of /v/ nothing more then a pack of closet scat fetishists? Its pretty much an established fact that Scat is a shit tier fetish on par with furries and vore.
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>>318203730
Define comfortably
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>>318203797
Why would I want to brag to normies?

Life is literally all about being selfish. The people who are the most well off have ruined the most lives.
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>>318181457
Video games are one of the cheapest hobbies in the world. What is your problem? Too stupid to download an emulator?
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Alright, I'm gonna get all LIFE STORY for a second. This might get a little TL;DR, but bear with me.

I graduated high school in 2007, which happened to be the height of the global recession. My plan was to get a part time job to pay my way through college, because that's what literally every adult at the time said I should do, but application after application fell through, and I grew dispondant. On top of that, my parents divorced in the most bloodthirsty, absolutely ugliest way possible, and depression took hold and I slid into the NEET lifestyle.

I lived like that, leeching off my mom and the state for nearly nine years, and in that time, the best jobs I could find were part-time,customer service jobs. Even worked at Gamestop for three months, which absolutely sucked shit.

Eventually, I stopped trying, and I just didn't care anymore. I never had money, so I grew to resent any time I had to spend money on anything, including vidya. I pirated everything. I thought I beat the system.

This past September, I got my first full time job. I work ten hours a day four days a week, and quite frankly, I still don't like it.

But you know what? Even while working four tens, I feel freer and more in control of my life than at any time in the past eight years. I have a cell phone with unlimited data. I have a car. I can go anywhere I want whenever I want.
Also having a job means I have to meter out my time more carefully. Projects that I started years ago, some 3D modeling jobs and a story I've been writing since 2010 are now actually getting done because now I have to actually make sure it's worth my time to do them.
Even with my 40 hours a week at work, I'm doing more, living more, and have more options than I ever had when I was "beating the system"

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to become a wage slave. But avoiding getting a job simply because of that is doing more harm to yourself than having a decent job ever could.
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>Hire new guy
>He does literally everything wrong and ass backwards
>Thats okay he's new, I just have to teach him
>Show him the same shit 5 god damn times, he never picks it up
>Develops some kind of school yard logic that I'm bullying him because I have to keep telling him how to do his job.
>Literally replies to me with "I'm more comfortable doing it THIS way"
>Calls in sick twice in his first month.
>Somehow I'm the bad guy when I want to fire the guy
>Just give him two hours a week until he quits
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>>318203894
That really depends on the person. I mostly define it as internet access + 2-3 rooms to live in + water + heating + decent food + health insurance.
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>>318203815
>Implying that taking shit pay for the same work that somebody else gets paid nicely for isn't on par with eating shit.
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>>318181457
With even the most basic PC you can get for $50 off of ebay you can play literally -literally- thousands of video games for free. Legally.

You are an idiot.
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>>318186496
What if I want to be happier but don't naturally make testosterone
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>>318203797
Stupid people think life has meaning. Intelligent people see this world for what it is and become depressed. Superficial things like boasting are meaningless to people who aren't retards.
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>>318203987
>Paying for health insurance
Amerikeks.
You slave all day for your government and they can't even be fucked to help you when you get hurt.

No wonder you defend being a wageslave to much. You enjoy being treated like shit.
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>>318203915
But then you look at their lives and it comes right back to this "job vs. fun" shit. It's all about balance. If you work to much your not having fun, but if you having fun too much it won't be fun anymore. Then you keep seeking new highs for "fun" and before you know it you're doing drugs.
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>>318203996
Why must you be constantly obsessed with the consumption of fecal matter though? Its not healthy and quite frankly to be honest it makes you look childish for even thinking this.
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>>318204118
Dude, I don't even live in america.
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>>318204189
Because if I used a food analogy you'd come at me with
>kek nice food analogy.
or
>I actually like eating mushrooms all day, though.
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>>318198365
>a piece of shit leech.
Lol, okay? Who cares. Waahhh words!
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>>318203950
>Get hired at a new place
>They do the training
>Don't understand something
>Ask them to help with that
>They do it the exact same way as they did when they first trained me
>It literally still doesn't make sense
>Constantly asking the faggot to repeat it
>It just doesn't make sense
>Conclude that the guy is a retarded asshole that's bad at teaching
>Every time I ask for help they re-direct me to that asshole
>Eventually just slack off and quit because I fucking hate this guy.

Fuck working at pizza places.

But that place was gay as hell and I got yelled at for "Constantly looking at the clock."

>Hey, Anon, why are you constantly looking at the clock? Don't you like being here? You're not constantly looking at the clock because you don't want to be here, right ;)?

No, you fat cunt. I don't like being here. This job sucks.
I just started and you put me on register on fucking Saturday afternoon. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing and there's a line all the way to outside.
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>>318181457
>win the lottery
>buy a flat and some more to rent
>live off rent
>play games
Is not that hard
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>>318203941
>I can go anywhere I want whenever I want.
Except Mon-Thurs between the hours of 6 and 5. OR any time inbetween because you have to make sure you're home and well rested to return to work at 6.
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>>318204109
Neither of us can prove one or the other, because it's basically religion vs. atheism now. Whether you believe it or not, wouldn't you rather live happily? Because if you answer no then you're on the wrong end of the equation, as not wanting to live happily is the UNintelligent decision. I might not be a "genius" like you claim, but I'm proud of my 140 IQ. I don't know or care what yours is, but if it's as high as you claim and we are both above average, than your statement doesn't make any sense. "stupid people think life has meaning". I believe life has meaning, and according to my slightly above avg IQ, I wouldn't be considered stupid.
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>>318204685
>win the lottery
>spend half of earnings buying more lottery tickets
>win again
>repeat for infinite money

wow u guys suck at life honestly
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>>318204685
>Not just putting it all into a savings account and living off the interest
>>
>manage to get a fast food job that's so easy an invalid could probably do it
>but I'm lucky if I get to work 6 hours a week doing it

I still don't know how to feel about this. I guess it's work experience, right?
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>>318205257
something is better then nothing anon.
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>>318204794
Problem solving ability does not correlate to philosophy. Well, I guess it does in a way, but there are tons of people with high IQs who are religious, so I think that's probably a good enough example of why it means nothing.
I would choose to be dumb as fuck over intelligent any day of the week, though. Ignorance is bliss.
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>>318202380
>used cars break down all the time

No they fucking don't unless you buy a piece of shit american car or some riced out ghetto junk or a car from a lazy housewife.

an old corolla or honda is more than enough to drive everywhere
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>>318204753
Not necessarily. Sometimes I'll go to a movie or something after work.
If I want to go somewhere particularly far, I do have to plan, but you'd have to do that anyway.
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>>318204685
>Grandparents own like 6-7 pieces of land (a pair of nice flats, some farming zones...) across several cities.
>They don't rent. All those places are just there.
>They don't even use them, they don't like to travel at all.

What fucking pieces of shit. They earned, thats ok, but they must be retarded for just sitting over so much land and don't use them to turn some profit.
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>>318205342
I'd argue even that there's causation even there. 90% of the time I'd bet if someone is really good at one thing, they're really good/decent at other things. Unless of course a mental disease prevented this (ass burgers (kek))
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>>318204601
>I dont understand something you need to know to do grunt work at a pizza place

oh yea, it was the teacher fucking up for sure
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>>318181457
Pirate stuff you mong
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>>318206021
That's bizarre. What made them buy all those properties in the first place and how are they so wealthy?
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>>318204685
>all these people suggesting real estate investments

Then you have to deal with tenants, repairs, general upkeep, etc. Fuck that.
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>>318198415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugJfjmxOR2I
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I'm 23 years old

graduated highschool 5 years ago

applied at walmart when I got out of highschool

didn't get more than 2 interviews

been NEET ever since

how do I get a job?
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>>318202803
I have severe agoraphobia and I'd love to have a job if I knew how to exit the house and interact with others without a panic attack
Seriously, the longer I'm in a public space, the more I feel like a cattle iron is being held against my skin and I have to get out, what's wrong with me
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>>318210142

You're still innocent. The cattle iron is apathetic normalcy pressing down on you.
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>Super introverted

>Work a highly social, fast paced job for minimum wage

been doing it for a year now, everyone at work thinks im an outgoing person

on the weekends i stay in my home, dont talk to no one dont go nowhere
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>>318210549
I'm the same way, I get all anxious and nervous thinking of talking to someone then when I actually do, everything goes smoothly and all my anxiety disappears. It still persists though.
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GUYS

Why don't the anons with jobs help or hire the anons without jobs? That'd be good for both, neets now have money and a /v/irgin friend, wagekek has.. a friend.

I mean if I had to work I'd rather do it with /v/irgins around
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>>318210795
>everything goes smoothly
this, but i fucking hate it and it drains me
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>>318210795
>everything goes smoothly
this, but then I wake up from my coma induced panic attack and realize everything went like shit
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>>318205342
The thing is that you can know that everything is meaningless and there is a lot of suffering in the world and still be smart enough to accept what you can't change. Smart people don't spend their lives crying over spilt milk, but they can.
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>>318210313
I guess what I'm really asking is what do you do when you want to be a part of society but your head freaks the fuck out
I'm not enjoying being stuck inside, I feel so alone, but it's better than the panic attacks
I might go homeless because of this problem
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>>318210998
Yeah same.
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>>318181457
Getting a job whiñle being unsocial/BL autistic is hard as balls too, if you don't live on the US that is.
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>>318203392
>Mackie's moral scepticism
You could still be a fictionalist, you know.
>>
Video games are expensive as you want them to be. There's plenty of cheap ways to game. You can buy old games, you can buy a competitive game you really like and play it for a long time, you can play emulators, you can even play free to play horseshit.
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>>318181457
work part time, get a cheap apartment, play older games

you'll be fine

just don't be stupid and get a girlfriend (or bother trying)
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>>318215531
Where do you live that a part time job can afford you your own place.
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>>318188151
Change your services provider
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>>318210849
my job has a fitness requirement. So at least half of you nerds are ineligible
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