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Just bought this from a sale. What am I in for?
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Just bought this from a sale.

What am I in for?
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>>318166704
for best atelier girl, Totori
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>>318166704
What sale?
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Fuck off Europe, stop trying to rub it in.
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>>318166704
weebshit prob
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>>318166924
Black Friday sale from yurop PS store. 10€
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sluttry of the highest tier
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>>318167167
FUCK, there were not even one game I wanted from the american PS sale, shit man I'm mad, I'm planning to buy all ateliers but they never go on sale.
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>>318166704
Is this better than Rorona Plus?
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>>318168483

nah rorona plus had the more updated alchemy system since it came out later

its ok though
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The first month is a total shit since you can only go to like two areas.
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>>318166704
You're in for a dose of slice of life and overdose of moe.
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>>318168905
There's nothing in Totori that even remotely resembles slice of life anime.
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>>318166704

cute lesbians and alchemy
shit tons of different endings
lots of fuckin weeb
standard combat, make bombs for totori when you can
alot of different endings so get ready to look up how to get them all
dont get stressed by the timer you have more time than it feels like

its not bad, also totoris english voice actor is unbelievably cute
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Is totori a good game to start this series or would be another game better?
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>>318170539

i would say so
rorona comes first but theres some post game content in rorona+ that wont make sense unless you play totori first

not really necessary but its something to consider
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A slutty MC
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generic weeb moeshit
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Is the Arland Atelier Trilogy a good deal?
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>>318170840
yeah theyre pretty fun
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>>318168629
Stop spreading misinformation. Rorona+'S alchemy system is the exact same as Totori's.

Anyway OP, it's one of the best Atelier games. I recommend Meruru and Ayesha Plus if you like it.

Stay away from Eschatology.
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>>318171073
No, it comes with the original Rorona and not the remake
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>>318167543

Usually they go on sale on Golden Week
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>>318171073
The PS3 trilogy pack? Nah, you can probably find Totori and Meruru for cheap, and it includes the original Rorona, not the (much improved) remake
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>>318171269

yeah rorona+ alchemy system is better because it had the updates that meruru used

you dope
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>>318166704
The most serious story of the Arland trilogy.
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You better've played rorona faggot.
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>>318169207
Are they really lezzing out in game?
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>>318175009
Some of them.
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>>318175009
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>>318175009
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>>318175009
Maybe.
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>>318175009
Yes
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Cute girls crafting cute things
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>>318175569
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>>318169207
Usually I hate the English dubs in Atelier games but I played Totori in English just for her VA
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>>318167169
It's a leotard, so it's not embarrassing!
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>>318175796
>>318169207
The dub is shit you faggots. English Totori doesn't even begin to compare to Jap Totori.
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>>318176142

take your fedora somewhere else
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>>318176142
The dub is shit except for English Totori
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>>318166704
Good gameplay as the focus with littlegirls as a side dish
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>>318170869
This isn't Neptunia anon
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>>318169070
It's slice of life for a alchemist. Most days in the game are just viewing moe events and then you go on to the next day. It's pretty much slice of life.
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>>318176290
So why would you pick a shitty dub with one good character over the Jap option where everyone is good?
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>>318176856
Because that's how good English Totori is
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Dusk>Arland
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>>318177640

Mana Khemia>Arland>Dusk>Iris
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>>318177640
Dusk only had one good game, though. Arland had 2.
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>>318177640
I agree. Why does it feel like there's a general negative view of Shallie? I'm playing it right now and it's great, save for one or two complaints.
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Meruru is objectively one of the best games in the genre.
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>>318179621
>Why does it feel like there's a general negative view of Shallie?
Because there is. I never played it though. Eschatology was bad enough to make me stay away from it.
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>>318180356
What is it people don't like about it then?
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>>318166704
the most under appreciated RPGs of this gen
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>>318166704

>buying digital games

Enjoy your limited license faggot. I'll enjoy my PS3 copy forever :^)
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>>318166704
The weakest Vita Atelier but still a damn good game with a charming as fuck protagonist. If you're new to the series remember to NOT try and do all the random jobs that pop up. Focus on your core missions and only accept the jobs you are confident you can complete.
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>>318180441
People hate Shallie because the time system was removed, even though it was essentially pointless in the older games because you'd have to be a retard to ever go past a deadline. The time shit has always been super lenient and only served to bog down the endgame with tons of extra time you had to waste to trigger the next event. Cutting it was the right choice.
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>>318181252
The time limits were just right in Totori and Meruru, and a large reason why they're the best games in the series.
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>>318181501
You're wrong on both accounts. Totori is easily the worst of the PS3/Vita games and the time limits were lenient to the point of being meaningless in both Totori and Meruru. Vanilla Rorona did the time management the best and even that was too lenient. It was a pointless system meant to provide an illusion of depth (which the series doesn't need, because it has plenty of actual depth elsewhere) and the series is better off without it.
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>>318181432
From the thumbnail I thought she was standing with Sophie and almost had a heart attack.
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>>318181835
>Totori is the worst
Stopped reading there. Dusk faggots are the worst kinds of people. I imagine they're all women.
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>>318181947
That's why I initially took that screenshot but she looks so fucking dumb that I named it fuck totori.
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>>318181835
It's not depth the time limits are supposed to provide, it's pacing. It's there to make sure to keep the game fresh by keeping you from spending too much time in grinding or gathering hypnosis.
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>>318182008
I started with Totori you chode. I'm not getting into Arland vs Dusk because I think both have their merits, but Totori is undeniably the worst game. Note I'm not saying Totori the character is bad. She's one of my favorites. But her game is relatively weak.

>I imagine they're all women
And all Arlandfags are pedos right? Fuck you're retarded.
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>>318182291
It's still pointless because the games are paced just fine on their own, no gimmicky time management needed. It's just a superfluous feature no matter how you spin it.
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>>318182323
LET'S CALL THE ROOM SERVICE
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>>318181432
>no hat

This kills the alchemy
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>>318166704
Pain.
Don't bother with the True End.
Just don't.
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>>318182481
>And all Arlandfags for pedos, right?
Are you retarded? Everyone flipped their shit when loli Rorona showed up in Meruru.

Pic related.

>318182643
The game have shit pacing without it. I time limit makes sure you're taking full advantage of the underlying mechanics of the crafting system to get the best items without losing days. Without it you can just fuck around as much as you want. In fact, this is exactly what people praise when they mention the lack of a time limit. "Without the time limit I can spend as much time as I want getting ready for the endgame bosses!"
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I want an Atelier ensemble game with all the characters getting together. They could find some bullshit reason for it to happen. It's alchemy they don't need to explain shit.
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>>318183062
Atelier musou was one of the top requests when KT polled that shit.
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>>318183036
You do realize that he is saying that you are as stupid as people who say Arland games are for pedos when you say Dusk games are for women, right?
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Atelier fighting game when?

I main Mimi
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>>318183036
I love that your arguments are so flimsy that you are relying on the false assumption that I'm a woman. Way to out yourself as a retard.
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>>318183442
>he
lol

>>318183508
Only a woman could get this defensive
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>>318183391
>musou
Sounds like an odd fit but fuck it I'll take it.
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>>318183706
Just go back to /pol/ and stop shitting up a perfectly good Atelier thread, faggot.
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>>318183884
Few characters were already in WO3U.

I think at least Rorona and Sterk.
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>>318183706
>calling others defensive
You have no self-awareness at all do you?
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>>318183940
no more counter responses?
typical retard
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>>318184136
I knew Sterk was in it but didn't bother buying if because I played the shit out of the PS3 version already. But if Rorona's playable I'm buying that shit tonight.
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>>318183940
>shits up the thread by saying Totori is shit and Shallie is good
>tries to place the blame on others
This is why no one takes women seriously.
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>>318184202
Respond to what? You're just baiting by calling him a woman for no reason.
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Recently started playing the original Rorona for my first game in the series because I've had it for a long time. It's a little rough around the edges, but still enjoyable. Does it get harder though? I'm only on assignment 3 but I had all the ingredients to get the required 3 stars as soon as it started. Also, what changes does Totori onward make to improve the series?
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Sterk is the killer
You either have to kill him or nuke Arland
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So is Sophie any good? And did they bring back time limits? They must know that people want them back.
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>>318184202
>>318184330
>and now he's samefagging
If I weren't an Arland fan myself I think you'd have swayed me into believing that all Arlandfags are retarded.
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>>318166704
dissapointment, a sub par RPG, rehashed assets and piss poor performance.
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>>318184617
Time limits are garbage
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>>318184385
>him
Lol. It's you. And you're not a guy. If you were a guy you wouldn't be so but lasted that someone was attacking you for being a woman.

A woman who thinks Dusk is better than Arland then tries to play the victim when she gets called out on it wow what a surprise
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I played Rorona plus and I could play Totori, it feels so limited, I dropped it soon after you get the brown girl. I heard it gets better though, I'll get around to play it.
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>>318184639
retard, im not but hey
believe in that bogeyman
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>>318184941
Personally out of someone whose played all three Arland games, Totori was my least favorite.
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>>318184639
>if more than one person seems to think I'm retarded, then it must actually just be one person!
I knew women are stunted intellectually when compared to men but come on
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>>318184724
They're good when they're not ridiculously lenient. The implementation in Totori or Meruru was pretty shit, I admit, but the limit was well done and added a lot to New Rorona. They finally got things perfect and then decided to say fuck it and remove time entirely for Shallie. It's stupid.
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>>318184724
You're garbage, casual.
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>>318175204

Those hats are making me hard.
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>>318183036
>Previous post deliberately makes a stupid argument to point out that the former argument was stupid
>You take it seriously and get mad about it
>You ask if the other person is retarded
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>>318169207
>playing Atelier with English dubs

Oh God where the hell am I?
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Meruru.
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>>318166704
Rorona+ > Totori >>>>>>>> Meruru

Don't let waifufags and yurishits tell you otherwise
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>>318188180
Meruru is the best game in the series.
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The Dusk Series is better.

Linca is cute.
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>>318184429
More narrative, some combat improvement,
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>>318188082
I play with the dubs too. The annoying jap voices in Rorona made me switch to the dub and I've never looked back.
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>>318188082

in a place with people who like totoris english voice actor
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>>318189434
Spot the newfag

People here have always praised Totori's English VA
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>>318189753

thank you sage of the lands
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>>318188082

>he doesn't like Totori's legit convincing young girl voice
>he doesn't like Rorona's charming raspy voice
>he doesn't like Hagel
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>>318166704
A mediocre JRPG who's main selling point is cute girls.

The alchemy system is nice though
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Shallie plus when?
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>>318190174
For the West? Probably early 2017.
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I feel like I'm being pulled in two directions playing this game. I'm not strong enough to fight the big monsters to get better materials for bombs to kill them with. I don't really know what to do although I did manage to complete the boat.

Is there a specific party make up I should be going for because I use the black haired tsun and the girl with the axe mostly. I just don't feel like I'm getting the most out of my in game time.
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When is Atelier getting ported to PC? Koei ports everything else to PC.

I have a Vita. I have to point that out because whenever I say I want Atelier on PC some asspained fanboy assumes I don't have a Vita and gets mad.
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>>318190492
Most people usually just point towards Gust not porting shit to PC.
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>>318190492
Has any Gust game ever been ported to PC? It would probably rely on them being willing to make a port. They're a tiny studio and probably stretched thin already.
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>>318190492
>>318190603
>>318190783
I have nothing against Atelier going to PC except I do think want SFM faggots getting their hands on the character models. I assume Gust feels the same way.
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>>318191065
*do not want
That'll teach me to merge sentences and not proofread.
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What is totori actually like? I've never played an Atelier and from what I can tell, all you do is craft bombs and pies, and that's the game?
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>>318191159
Use a crafting system with so much depth it would make an autist blush to find your mom while occasionally getting into JRPG battles
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>>318191159
You craft to make better equipment and items to use in battle as well as fulfill requests. You explore various areas gathering materials for crafting and doing the typical JRPG battle thing. There's always some story-related mission to work on as well that varies from making certain items with hard to find ingredients or taking out stronger monsters and bosses. There are story cutscenes and optional slice of life event cutscenes, some of which almost play out VN style. Each game puts it's own twist on the formula but that's the gist of it.
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>The time limits are good because they stop you from grinding
How retarded do people have to be to parrot this? The fact that levels hardly mean anything is what stops you from grinding. You need to proceed through the game to learn more recipes and get better ingredients, fucking around in one area for 20 hours isn't going to help you at all, time limit or no time limit.
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>>318191635
>adventurer levels are the only thing to grind in Atelier
Spot the retard
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>>318191791
I don't think he meant adventurer level. He's still wrong though.
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>>318191791
Yeah, stay in the first area to grind 500 taros, that will really help.

Explain what benefit grinding gives instead of sperging out.
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I stumbled upon this freeware game a while ago. It's like atelier with realtime combat and less yuri. Pretty good. Anyone else played it?
http://vgperson.com/games/farawaystory.htm
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>>318191635
Do people like them because they stop people grinding? I've never seen anyone say that was why they were good. Seen people complain about them since they wanted to grind and couldn't, but never seen someone say they were good specifically because they didn't let you grind.
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>>318192248

See >>318182291 and plenty or retards in other threads.
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>>318192175
>less yuri
It's shit

>>318192248
Dat pic
>averageduskfan.png
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>>318192248
Christ Irisfags are cancer. So glad they abandoned that style of game.
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>>318192402
>being illiterate
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>>318192402
>"Dusk fan"
>whines about Ayesha in the image
u wot m8
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>>318192621
He's an Arlandfag, what do you expect?
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>>318166704
A beating because we didn't get this on sale. NA psn a fucking shit.
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>>318192093
At no point in the game you will have all the ingradients you want with good quality and all the bombs you want with good quality and a high enough alchemy level and adventurer level and shit. If you can just have enough time to grind enough ingredients and make the best possible bomb xN and infinite healing items of every type the game would be completely broken. I can't understand how you can't see how the time limit affects atelier games.
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>>318192352
Well, he has a point if you take grinding to mean grinding for good ingredients rather than for XP. If you want to make the best items possible with no time limits then you just go and farm what you need and then make them, that's it. Trying to make good items when you have a time limit so you can't just take forever getting the best of everything is a lot more engaging. Not that it matters half the time since most of the recent Ateliers have time limits so generous that you can waste huge amounts of time doing nothing and still do fine anyway.
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>>318193056
If by "recent" you mean every Atelier in the HD era then sure.
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>>318193056
I liked time limits how they were. Free enough that you're never anxious about not making it, but strict enough that they are not a complete non factor.
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>>318194091
I did, yeah. I've heard the PS1 ones are actually hard, but I have no idea if that's true or not, since hey, no translation.
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>>318192781
I would agree with you if they took about a year off of every game, but as it is the time limits in both Arland and Dusk don't impede you from gathering and making whatever you want as inefficiently as you want.

Also, there's not much point in doing that much gathering and synthesizing, all you need is to make one item with all the best properties and then you can just wholesale/duplicate it.
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>>318194738
I thought the Rorona remake was pretty good. Trying to handle main objectives/side objectives/party member sidequests/making good items all at once was pretty hard. Maybe the original Rorona was good too, but I dunno, I never played it.
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>>318185043
What I'd like is if Cordelia's basic attack in Rorona+ was gunshots instead of that fist attack. In Totori, Cordelia's attacks and skills were perfect. Same goes for Gio in Meruru; his skills let you chain attacks and increase turn number. But they went back to normal, which did arguably make him a lot less broken.
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>>318195135
I thought Rorona Plus was the worst with time limits personally, it's the only Atelier game I actually dropped because of how easy it felt. I've heard the post-game extra stuff is hard, but the main story at least was leaving me several months to spare every assignment and nothing to fill the time with.
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>>318194738
As I said in another post, I like it how it is. The game is not supposed to be a race. I like that it's not strict enough that you feel anxious, I would not enjoy the game like that. And I feel like people understate its importance. If you don't have some kind of organization you will be at a much bigger disadvantage. Wholesale and duplicating is not that easy either, you need money and that's not infinite either or stuff like homs work time (which is stealing them from working on other stuff). Plus, I'm winning to beat a lot of the people who complain about this play with savescumming and guides that tell them where the gathering gloves, speed boots, teleport items etc are and how to get them the fastest and shit like that.

Again, I am by no means saying the time limit is very restrictive, I just feel like it should not be and that people underestimate its importance.
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>>318192910
>implying were not all little girls here
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>>318195705
Yeah? That's odd. I wonder if you're super good at it or I'm super bad. I ended up having to skip a bunch of the side objectives since I just didn't have enough time.
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I'm going to marry Totori!
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>>318196546
Was it your first/one of your first Atelier games? It took me a couple of times playing (vanilla) Rorona before I could faceroll the game and all newer ones.
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>>318190783
A long time ago Atelier Marie and Atelier Elie were ported to PC. I'm not aware of anything official since then.
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>>318195740
I get where you're coming from, but there are plenty of people who play "normal" JRPGs without grinding at all. I think there are always going to be people who want to trivialize any difficulty and people who want to play as efficiently as possible, regardless of time limits.

I feel like for the efficient player the the desire to get through the game and see all the content without screwing around in one area for 10 hours is just as compelling as the actual time limit, and they would play similarly without the time limit.
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>>318197824
This. The time limits had nothing to do with me wrecking those games because the incentive was in the game itself and separate from the time limit. In fact the limits just made the later portions of the games a drag because I had so much time with nothing to do. Same problem Lightning Returns had, except I could just sleep it off in that.
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>>318197536
Nope. I played Totori first and found it pretty simple. I played Meruru and it was super easy. I played Escha nad Logy and it was a joke. Then I played the Rorona remake and oh shit it was hard.
Very odd.
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>>318198356
I had a similar experience with Escha & Logy. I had no problems with Rorona, Totori, Meruru, Ayesha, or any of the Plus games. But for some reason the final dungeon in Escha & Logy wrecked my shit. I got it figured out eventually but for whatever reason it gave me trouble at first.
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>>318167543
New Rorona and Ayesha+ were on sale like two weeks ago m8. Also Shallie on PS3.
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>>318188082
Rorona's voice was fucking whiny, english was better.
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>>318166704
You're in for a fun and engaging game that people dismiss just because of the frilly, weeb-y art style.
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>>318201847
I don't really understand how the whole dub vs sub thing can happen when the dubs for these games are so incomplete. Half the time it's not dub vs sub, it's fucking nothing vs sub. Why would you want to pick the option where most of the lines are silent? Makes no sense.
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>>318202084
Because I don't really care for voices, I read pretty fast so I opt for the less annoying one.
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>>318202201
That makes sense. Still confuses me when other people talk about how much better the dub is when half of it is just silence, though.
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>>318190174
I WANT THE GAME ON THE FUCKING PS4! FUCK THIS SHIT THAT ISN'T BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE!
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Meruru > Totori > New Rorona >>>>> Rorona

Ayesha >>>>>>>>>>> Shallie > Escha & Logy
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>>318203921
Nice meme opinion.
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>>318203921

Why is Escha & Logy so low, out of curiosity?
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>>318204740
Filthy het shit.
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>>318204740
Because he's a >muh time limits retard who likes to pretend any of the Atelier games are hard.
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>>318202084
>I don't really understand how the whole dub vs sub thing can happen when the dubs for these games are so incomplete.
Ask nep fans. Their dubs are even more silent than ateliers.
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>>318204842
>>318204845

So, figuratively speaking, if I've only played Rorona+ and liked the time limits, and don't really care about the sexuality of the characters then in theory I should like Escha & Logy, right? Bear in mind I do know to play Totori, Meruru, and Ayesha beforehand and it is on my to-do list.
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>>318205065
You'll only need to play Ayesha before E&L.
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>>318205065
I've played Rorona+, Totori, Meruru, Ayesha, and Escha, and Escha is my favorite of them. /v/ just has some weird hateboner for it for some reason.

I would definitely recommend it.
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>>318205065
The time limit is similar to rorona(100 days for each assignment period), but it's more lax, so things may get boring at points if you were able to manage through rorona plus without an issue.
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>>318205065
E&L awful. It took everything that made Atelier unique and dumbed it down in an attempted to appeal to a wider audience: the devs even admitted this.
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>>318205254

Well yes, but since I've played one of the Arland games I figured finish that trilogy, then move on to Dusk.

>>318205297

I see.
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>>318204740
Because nothing happens till the end of the game, also the side characters were kinda boring.
I don't think it is a bad game. The thing is that I found Ayesha so damn good that I got really dissapointed with E&L.

>>318204842
I'm a big y/u/ri fag but Logy was great, pretty much the best character in E&L.
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>>318205352

What exactly does it dumb down?
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>>318205352
If you thought prior Atelier games were hard that says more about you being shit at video games than it says about Escha.
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I want to FUCK Totori.
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>>318205453
The thing that may be the least enjoyable part about the time limit in escha and logy is that the final assignment gives you the typical 100 days, and then gives you 365 more days with only a small amount of additional goals to complete.
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>>318205621
Alchemy, primarily. You don't even need to craft in Escha, you equip items and they automatically refill when you return to town

>>318205668
I didn't say older games were hard, you fucking retard. Learn to read.
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>>318201847

>Hating on Ilya's voice

Shame.
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>>318166704
>I just bought this game but i dont even know what it is about

How's retard school going, retard?
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>>318202084
I don't mind reading dialog as I pretty much grew up on 16 bit JRPGs. And like >>318202201 I also read pretty quickly. I can definitely understand wanting the Japanese voices if you want every lime voiced but that's not all that important to me.
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>>318205865
So Escha is bad because it's not hard, but other games aren't hard? Maybe you just don't like the series.
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>>318206343
Holy shit you have piss poor reading comprehension. As expected of an E&L fangirl.
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>>318205830

So basically an asston of free time is dumped on you at the end of the game? Weird.

>>318205865

>you equip items and they automatically refill when you return to town

So if an item has 3 uses, you use 2 of them, and go back to town then it's back up to 3 uses again? Wouldn't item quality deteriorate in that time anyways?
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>>318203921
For me it's:

Ayesha > Rorona Plus > Escha & Logy > Meruru > Shallie > Rorona vanilla > Totori

I loved them all though, so even though I have Totori last I still think it's a great game.
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>>318206602
And you're an angry retard who can't articulate his points. As expected of an Arlandfag.
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>>318205865
I hated the auto-replenish shit but you still had to do plenty of alchemy, come on now. Especially since you can keep making better and better items.
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>>318206625
If an item has 3 uses it will still refill even if you use all three, and equipped items don't deteriorate. I don't remember if anything even deteriorated in E&L at all. It was dumbed down as fuck.
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>>318204842
Go back to Neptunia, shit-eating scum.
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Quick, what traits do I need on my elixier in rorona+ for the endgame? Or how much range extention do I need? 2?
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I'm clueless: do any of these games have dual language in the US?
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>>318206908

>and equipped items don't deteriorate

wut

I could see refills being balanced out if quality degradation was still a mechanic - either the item would get worse the more you used it or you'd find better materials and could craft a better item anyways - but refills and no quality degradation seems a bit much.
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>>318206814
Nope, Escha is a casual piece of shit that requires literally no alchemy to beat.
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>>318206968
>implying anyone give a shit about the opinions impure sub-humans like you
Hilarious.
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>>318206625
You register items you want to auto-replenish and the organization you work for tops you off each time you return to town. But really you should be constantly making better and better items so it's not quite as horrible as that anon is saying. You still do tons of alchemy during the game, but it's definitely toned down a bit.
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>>318207105
Yes almost all of them do.

All but the PS3 version Ayesha which didn't have one. The vita version does though.
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>>318207149
It was more than a bit much. The hate for Escha is completely justified.
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>>318207250
>>318207314

Well, it certainly appears to be a divisive entry. I guess I'll have to try it out for myself when I get around to it.
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>>318207250
You're exaggerating a bit. The recipie list in Escha was also small (more dumbing down) so there was less things to craft, the the crafting system itself was dumbed down so much that it was easy as fuck to make good items right away.
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>>318207314
No, it really isn't. You're delusional if you think needing to buy a few bombs and food from wholesale when you go back to town is the difference between a great game and a piece of shit.
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>>318207573
Holy shit, are you seriously claiming Escha has a smaller recipe list than earlier games? Now you're just straight-up lying.
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>>318207457
There wasn't any yuri so Arlandfags got triggered into hating it. I'm kidding, calm down ya spergs.

But yes you should really just try it for yourself. It's cheap as fuck now unless you decide to wait for the Plus version.
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>>318207756
>implying that's not literally the reason
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>>318207756

I'm mostly asking because I'm eyeing the E&L Plus LE coming out soon. I have the others on Vita and quite frankly I'd like to have a physical Atelier on Vita for once. Don't even need all the LE shit, I just don't want yet another digital Atelier if I can help it.
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>>318207642
>you're delusional if you think a game that doesn't require you to craft in a series built around crafting isn't bad

Ha ah oh wow, this is why no one takes Dusk shitters seriously.
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>>318208068
Thank you for confirming for me that Escha haters are illiterate retards who don't actually play the games.
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>>318208035
I'd still suggest giving the PS3 version a shot if you have the system just because it's so much cheaper and you could end up with an irrational hate boner for it like that other anon.
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>none of the Vita Ateliers get a physical release
>except the worst Atelier ever made
But why

No one even liked Escha except for women
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>>318166704

I hope you like barrels.
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>>318208340
>you will never have an Atelier thread without /u/fags shitting it up
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>>318208306

I don't really get irrational hate boners except for Resident Evil 6, because fuck that game so odds are I'll be fine with it. I've heard it was closest to Rorona so that got me kind of excited to play it.
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>>318208340
They're likely to all get physical LEs from now on, shitposter-kun. Ar nosurge started the trend and Escha is just continuing it. Also
>not owning physical jap copies of all the Plus games
Fucking scrub.
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>>318208597
It is kind of structured like Rorona in terms of the monthly assignments and stuff. Also everyone hates RE6.
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>>318208597
Someone lied to you. Totori and Meruru are the most like Rorona. E&L is about as far from Rorona as you can get.
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>>318208903
Except you know, the monthly assignments that make up the entire game.
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>>318208615
Too bad Ar no Surge flopped hard and E&L was one of the worst sold Atelier.

Also Yoru no Nai Kuni did great, almost as good as Meruru, the most /u/ Atelier.
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>>318208820

Monthly assignment structure is good.

>>318208903

I've heard Totori is way more open-ended than Rorona so odds are I'm not gonna like that as much since I very rarely like open progression but I'm sure I'll still like the cute girls and alchemy. I have no idea how Meruru works though.
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>>318209174
Actually Ar nosurge sold pretty well once it hit Vita. It was one of the top sellers on PSN for quite a while. I'm glad Yoru no Nai Kuni did well though; the game looks great. And didn't TK confirm that E&L outsold Ayesha? I thought I saw that posted here before.
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>>318209335
Totori is definitely more open. It's almost directionless at times. Once you get used to it though it's pretty good. Not as good as the others, but definitely worth playing. Arguably the best protag too.
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>>318166704
>not playing Rorona first
Enjoy your impure Rorona
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>>318182008
>>318183036
>>318183706
>>318184330
>>318184770
>>318185079
>>318206602
>>318208340

>uses "woman" as an insult
>plays one the most girly video game series ever

/pol/fag plz
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Ayesha has the best soundtrack

And best OP
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>>318209909
There's no reasoning with Arlandfags.
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>>318209909
Asspained woman detected

Probably thinks Dusk is better than Arland
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You know with all the Arland/Dusk shit flinging I'm surprised a Mana Khemia fag hasn't thrown his hat into the ring yet. We usually have at least one by now.
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>>318210574
Nevermind, I forgot about >>318177789
All is normal.
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>>318210168

I actually prefer Arland, but if anybody liking Dusk somehow means that they're a woman, than who am I to disagree with your well-founded "logic"?
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>>318210720
Not it's not.

We need a moonfag who's played the PS1 games as well.
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>>318210785
I fucking hate Gust. Because of Totori I will never be able to fall in love with 3dpd
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>>318180505
More like most overrated among weebs.

The games share the same formula from game to game with little variation thrown between them in regards to gameplay.

The story is definitely slightly better than Neptune games but gameplay-wise, I wish it would give much more upgrades between games.
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>>318211202
Oh boy, now the thread is complete.
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>>318211202
Upgrades aren't desperately needed because the core gameplay is solid, unlike Neptunia. It took CH like ten games to make the series into something approaching decent.
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>>318211202
Atelier games have way more depth to them than Neptunia, and there are actually a lot of differences between games (not all improvements) which is why you see so much arguing in this thread.
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>>318211202

What's Nep's equivalent of the alchemy system?
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>>318211547
Memes
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high impact sexual violence
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>>318211202
>but gameplay-wise, I wish it would give much more upgrades between games.
They do that.

Sometimes it might not be received WELL but they do switch it up some.
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>>318211601

So Atelier confirmed for much better than Nep then?
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>>318211547
Using your MBs that you collect to make items, weapons, armor, playable characters, harder dungeons and rarer item drops possible through the Plans system and shares system.

It also allows different endings depending on shares in different companies alongside following certain questlines (like Conquest in MK2/Rebirth 2).
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>>318211889

That sounds considerably better than memes.
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>>318211202
Compile Heart has one decent game under its best and it has nothing to do with Neptunia.
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