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>laser rifle
>has recoil
>turn 30 degrees away from someone stand next and talking to you
>can't hear shit
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>>318165917
Do you think all the force that energy has just turns into sunshine and rainbows?
>>318168620
>light
>have any sort of force behind it
C'mon, now.
>>318168620
The American education system, ladies and gentlemen.
>>318168719
(F)orce = (M)ass x (A)cceleration
I hope you aren't going to tell me condensed and refracted light doesn't have a mass.
>>318165917
wow it's like you've never fired a laser rifle in real life
>>318168947
Photons are massless
Bouncing them around does not create mass.
>>318169084
But they have momentum in form of energy. Energy is not so much different from mass. Of course, a laser with a noticeable recoil would have to be pretty powerful.
>>318165917
ayy lmao
You're all idiots, the sudden difference in heat and thus pressure around the barrel when fired would create some form of force affecting your aim, even if its not recoil in the traditional sense of going back into your shoulder.
>>318169391
>momentum in form of energy
this is reaching PURE ENERGY level of stupid there.
>>318168947
>muricans
>>318169084
Energy (in this case light) is just matter that is moving at an incredible speed.
If you were to somehow slow down light it would form a semi-liquid object.
Matter doesn't just pop from thin air anon.
>>318169391
anon plz....
>>318168620
What public school district did you come from, my friend?
>>318168719
that light is made from a miniature fusion reactor, which I imagine produces some amount of force
>>318169084
They have relativistic mass though.
>>318168947
Back in my day FMA stood for Full Metal Alchemist. Like and share if you agree.
>>318169437
Do you have sources to back that up?
>>318166097
isnt there a fix for this yet?
thought playing around with the quality of sound on your audio configuration helped.
>>318168947
I hope this is bait because no one can be this stupid.
>>318165917
>threw away everything that Obsidian did better
BETHESDA
>this fucking thread
>>318169694
Yes, its called physics. The extreme amount of heat a laser that could kill a man would produce would be enough to create a pressure differential in the air.
>>318165917
Photons have momenta. Newton's third law is still very valid and there would be a force acting on the rifle.
It is why in theory you could make a space ship that 'sails' on photon pressure.
>>318169084
Light has energy
E=hf
Energy mass equivalence
E=mc^2
Therefore light has mass
m=hf/c^2
:^)
>>318169840
No you see obsidian is bad because the talking in video game boring just want shoot bethesda good
>>318165917
lie lmao
>>318169986
HATE DIALOGUE
>>318165917
I always imagined it was like a cooling coil being cycled or something
>>318169985
but it has almost no mass at all
so it doesn't justify the recoil in any way
>>318169985
dont you mean hf = mc^2
>laser musket
>has mods for better recoil
>>318169985
Light has no mass you imbecile. It does however have momentum and it's a change in this momentum that creates a force.
It's simple physics.
>>318165917
From a Warhammer 40k thread, a physics anon mentioned that laser based weapons might have recoil based on the expanding superheated gases such as oxygen in the barrel of the gun. It wouldn't be nearly as powerful as a slug thrower but it could potentially have some kick to it.
>>318170165
With a dense enough laser of photons, the effect of all the photons can produce recoil by imparting their momentum.
Look up light sail, same idea.
>>318169985
>light has mass
Behold, the American education system everyone.
>underwater fight
>shooting each other from more than 50 yards away
>/v/ talking about physics
This is how I die, I have a brain aneurysm and I die
>>318169391
>is not so much different
american science
>>318170593
I'm sure it is nearly boiling water, anon.
I thought the laser guns just shot red bullets??
>>318170593
You can shoot fairly reliably if both the gun and the target are underwater. The bullet won't travel as far an have slightly more deviations, but it will still be a viable weapon.
It is when the bullet hits the surface tension of the water that things REALLY fuck up. Source is Mythbusters.
>>318170481
>not seeing his kappa
>>318170191
There are continuous fire enchantments.
>>318171039
I'm only here in the US for the holidays. After which I'm back in Canada.
>>318165917
>laser blast are not strong enough for recoil
/v/ cant into science
>want to sneak
>2 viable options for legs
>more speed
>less detection while moving
>have sneaking on 5
>don't know if I need less detection or more speed
>no stats shown on what it actually does
why is this allowed in 2015
>>318168947
E=mc^2
>>318171394
because you're playing a trashy overhyped game.
>>318171394
FO4 is a bad rpg.
>/v/ acts like Fallout 4 will be the best game ever
>game comes out
>/v/ nitpicks to find something wrong
>says its overrated trash
Never change guys. Never change.
>>318169391
The funny thing is, energy and mas are kind of the same thing. Photon have no mass, but under certain conditions can spontaneously turn in matter and anti-matter, the energy that isn't converted into mass becomes the kinetic energy of the generated particles (I think an electron and a positron) and is split evenly between the two.
Anyway, momentum is mass x velocity. If a photon had no mass, it cannot have momentum.
>>318170348
>Light has no mass you imbecile. It does however have momentum
Momentum - Noun
"the quantity of motion of a moving body, measured as a product of its mass and velocity."
you just rekt yourself
>>318171523
>>/v/ acts like Fallout 4 will be the best game ever
When did that ever happen? Most people here kept saying it was going to be disappointing from the start. Todd memes don't count because that was plain shitpost for the sake of shitposting.
>>318171261
it's true though. Even the most powerful industrial laser don't produce recoil.
The only reason the machines are huge are the heat and need for stability and precision..
>laser rifle
>projectiles are visible and have travel time
>tfw you realize every form of sound is just movement
>>318171394
Numbers beyond 20% increments, 10%-15% modifiers, and smaller numbers for sneaking bonuses are too hard for the average consumer.
>>318171728
just because its the speed of light does not mean it has no travel time
>>318171652
Its the best of the 3D games in terms of strict gameplay and arguably the environment design.
Its marginally worse than NV in writing.
Come on, even in highschool they tell you light doesn't have mass/isn't made out of particles/whatever bullshit mechanic physicians wanted to believe because it's an electromagnetic wave.
>>318171614
jesus christ you dumb nigger.
photons have momentum. thats why solar sails are a thing
>>318171912
Umm yes that is literally what it means. From the frame of reference of the photon it gets to its target instantly. Did you stick your head under the sand when the guy called Einstein presented his work or what?
>>318171523
I WANTED it to be good, but I expected it to be mediocre.
Lo and behold, it's mediocre.
>>318171963
Photons do have mass
You know highschool science lies for the sake of brevity and simplification all the time, right?
>>318172041
They do.
Because they also have mass.
>>318172076
so if i shot you from 3000 meters away with my laser rifle it will hit you instantaneously?
>>318170756
>>318169540
>>318168889
We get it, europoor
Don't you have to go apologize to a muslim
>>318165917
http://youtu.be/Qn5vysBkWdM
Skip to 0:59
It's before the shockwave from the nuke.
Nothing is hitting those cars except light and yet the paint is burnt off and pushed back
Light does have a force
Using light light to kill someone would require a HUGE amount of energy so i think it's logical to say the laser rifle would have recoil
>>318171523
>/v/ acts like Fallout 4 will be the best game ever
Things that never happened.
>>318172076
Not him, but I hope you get autistic about every piece of fiction that has lasers with travel time for the sake of consistency.
>>318172103
8/10 2bh
u got me
>>318165917
>/v/
>being retarded
what a surprise
>>318172156
Correct.
>>318172156
Technically? No. The speed of light still means there's travel time even if its .00000000000001ms or whatever amount.
Practically and Mathematically? Yes, because .0000000000001ms or whatever infinitesimal amount is neither perceivable nor mathematically significant.
>>318172356
but the speed of light is 3000m/s
so get fucked you wannabe pimp
>>318172274
>I never visited /v/ during E3: The Post
>>318172312
Can't have momentum if you don't have mass.
Its like saying you have a vector without a direction.
Look you Dreamboys, I've explained this already.
It
JUST
FUCKING WORKS
>>318172076
Go learn more special relativity. Light based reference frames are impossible due to an infinite lorentz factor. This is a bideojame dont nitpick please and post piper porn.
>>318172404
>or whatever amount.
it would be one whole second
>>318169554
>matter doesn't pop from thin air
>many examples of particles quickly popping in and out of existence randomly in the universe
okay there michio kaku
>>318172531
Post a source there pal
>>318168947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i426pbQJZ_g
>>318172441
>I can't tell the difference between shitposting and actual enthusiasm: The Post
>>318172531
>randomly
yeah right
youre thinking of exotic particles like tachyons which are not at all random
>/v/ talks science
I'm imagining a bunch of crazy old men in labcoats calling eachother faggots & retards over simple shit
goddamn why didn't I study physics when I had the chance
>>318172441
He unironically does not remember /v/ taking apart everything he said and assuming application of seemingly cool features wouldn't be dissapointing or a gimick.
He does not remember YOU'RE A MUTT
He does not remember people shitting on the plasticwristgimmick-boy available for pre-order.
He does not remember left handed bolt anger.
baka desu senpai
>>318172670
>trying this hard
Have a (You). You seem desperate.
>>318172680
Read. The. Archives.
There were plenty of posts praising Fallout 4 before, during and well after E3.
>>318172724
Tachyons don't exist. He's thinking of vacuum fluctuations or something.
>>318172785
see >>318172780
Thanks for playing.
>>318172515
No it would not. It would be 1/100th of a second.
>>318165917
I-it looks cool?
Maybe there's some possible mechanical explanation for the components to produce a recoil in the process to produce the laser beam.
>>318172867
>>318172867
Congratulations feeling good about a post you made on a Japanese image board.
>>318172679
>Yeah guise a photon that acts in every way like it has mass totally doesn't because of a theory we can't even reconcile with the rest of physics to the point where the double slit experiment makes us gloss over and *cough* whenever mentioned
ye na
Photons have mass
>>318172785
>praise exists therefore everyone on /v/ thought it would be the best game ever
>>318172954
Not the same poster anon. Cry more.
>>318166097
Need to change your audio option to just 2 speakers bro, had the same problem especially on Metro 2033, the game thought I had like 4 speakers which is why when I turned just a bit I couldn't hear the speech, basically it tries to send the sound to a speaker that doesn't exist.
>>318165917
>laser sniper rifle
>using a sniper rifle that broadcasts your exact location
>>318173031
>Cry more
Are you 15 of something?
>>318172632
>>318172724
>>318172807
virtual particles
>>318172780
why would anyone be upset about a left-handed bolt? If i were in that situation i'd take what i could get left-handed or not.
>>318169687
Back in my day FMA. Stood for FUCK MY ASS. FUCK MY ASS if you agree.
>>318173109
Doesn't matter if no ones alive to return fire.
I think most people use those as DMRs anyway.
>>318173148
Just let it flow anon. You'll feel better afterwards.
>>318172724
>>318172807
>>318172724
He's thinking Hawking Radiation, probably.
He's still an idiot.
>>318172729
Because there's a good chance that no one here is a distinguished physicist. Not impossible, just highly unlikely.
Whether or not the laser rifle thing is legitimate doesn't matter. It's the fact that we're literally arguing with each other over it that's funny.
You probably didn't study physics because that shit's extremely hard.
>>318173256
You didn't answer my question.
>>318173207
I shoot left handed and I've never seen a left handed bolt action rifle in person. Feels bad man.
>>318173207
Why would hunting rifle in boston follow the moist nugget design?
>>318172423
>>318172515
The speed of light is 299792458 m/s, not 3000.
>>318169540
>>318170756
>>318168889
>Yuropoors are so ''well educated'' but still can't kill a muslim on sight
kek
>>318172807
>>318172724
>>318172632
>>318173181
>>318173260
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-virtual-particles-rea/
>>318173109
to be fair real lasers don't do that unless there is smoke/fog for the light to refract in.
https://youtu.be/eVWYIIvVWu4
Does a flamethrower ĥave recoil ?
>>318173031
>>>/55chan/
Fuck off, imbecile.
>this thread
>>318173681
Why are you still upset anon?
>>318173651
Yes. It spray flamabble gas or petroleum substance depending on which you got, definetly has mass.
>>318173457
Anon, trying to divert the subject to something completely unrelated when you say something dumb is not a valid strategy
>>318173563
ok i read it
where does it say theyre random again?
>>318173815
But you did it first when you mentioned America for no reason
>>318173812
I meant noticeable recoil.
>>318173583
Or they're powerful enough for the scattering on air to be visible. I've got a 30mW laser pointer that has a visible beam if it's dark enough.
>>318173851
>the nothing is technically random meme
I wont even waste my time have a good day anon
>>318173815
Being so butt ravaged you have to direct every conversation towards Americans when it's completely unrelated to the subject is how this shit started. Try to pay attention yurofriend.
>>318173207
I'm more upset how a measly bullet can knock off an entire chest piece.
>>318173651
its more like backwards thrust
because youre propelling fuel out of it
the force at which it shoots out is equal in pushing back
>>318174001
Those two things are the same thing.
YOUR ALL STUPID IDIOTS
>>318169718
Sure thing bro, use mono sound!
>>318173851
>>318173563
Yeah, you're forgetting the point of this.
The first guy seems to think virtual particles somehow defy conservation of energy in the end, which is sorta not true.
>>318174056
recoil is an impulse
the force of thrusting gas is not, unless the flamethrower shoots a the same start/stop rate as a gun, which it doesnt.
>>318173919
Yes, flamethrowers can kick quite a lot. It depends though.
>>318173919
Ask a german flammenwerfer guy. i suspect there was a bit, jsut much lower than other guns.
>laser rifle
>it doesn't actually shoot lasers but it's called that way because it's somewhat fitting
I think of it this way
>>318165917
Isn't it possible that the firing mechanism is just shitty and has recoil?
A better question is why the lasers are red, since being in the violet/ultra violet area would offer better penetration and damage against organics
>>318174264
Watch any archive footage of soldiers using flamethrowers. They seem to kick quite a lot more than rifles.
>>318168947
>common core.
>>318174301
>energy weapons dont shoot light
>they just shoot really focussed bundles of energy :^)
next level bait
>>318174195
It's the same basic phenomenon. Conservation of momentum.
>>318174172
>>318173851
the quote in the op mentions random
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/67561/if-subatomic-particles-pop-into-existence-all-the-time-why-dont-i-gain-weight
>>318174369
It shoots two beams at once, one on the visible spectrum and one off.
Think of it like a tracer round.
>>318174372
Ever tried to hold a fire hose steady.
Now imagine a fire hose spraying highly flamibal liquid
>>318173207
LOOK AT THE WEBM, HE IS USING IT LIKE A LEFT HANDED, BUT THERE IS NO BOLT HANDLE.
>Literally gun magic
>found vault 81
>no curie there
life is suffering
where is she?!
>>318174537
>Ever tried to hold a fire hose steady.
Yeah, I've taken a piss before.
>>318172498
There was actually a note in the game that had the phrase "it just works" written; I snickered.
>>318174425
>I think of it this way
Are energy weapons generally defined by "shoots light"?
I don't give a crap about bethesda lore
>>318174671
unfortunately you were pissed out into the gene pool as well
So, we want a flashlight which emits light with the same amount of kick as a bullet. I think momentum is a good measure to use.
The momentum of an object is its mass x velocity. Mathematically:
p = mV
where p is momentum, m is mass and V is velocity. If we assume our flashlight behaves similarly to a pistol (i.e. has the same mass and emits its light in a quick burst), then we want the momentum of our light to be the same as the momentum of our bullet.
So, how do we work out the mass of light? From what I understand, we can just use the mass-energy equivalence formula:
E = mc2
m = E/c2
And the velocity of light is equal to the speed of light. So, the momentum of the light emitted by our flashlight is:
p = mV = E/c2 x c = E/c
We want the momentum of the bullet to equal the momentum of our light, so:
E/c = m(bullet) x V(bullet)
E = mVc
Let's pick the ATOMIC Ammo 9mm round as our bullet, which has a velocity of 400 m/s and a mass of 8 grams. The speed of light is 300,000,000 m/s, so we can substitute this into our equation:
E = mVc = 0.008 x 400 x 300,000,000 = 960 MJ
So, your flashlight needs to emit 960 MegaJoules in order to have similar recoil to a gun. Fun Fact: If your flashlight emits 960 MegaJoules in 0.8 seconds, it is consuming 1.21 GigaWatts of power. That's equal to the power consumption of the DeLorean from Back to the Future. All you need is some plutonium and a Flux Capacitor, and your dream of a pistol flashlight can come true.
Credit:https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/3amged/request_how_powerful_would_a_flashlight_need_to/cse0zwb
>>318174369
it's really a gamma ray but it's dyed red to trick the enemy into thinking its harmless and to help you correct your aiming.
>>318174736
How rude.
>>318174718
light is energy
a laser is focused light emission that is amplified.
laser = bundled energy
of course there are other types of energy but i think we can assume theyre laser guns
>>318173815
You're right, Its only carried this board to its popularity status over the past 6 years.
>>318174718
I think something like a lightning gun would also be called an energy weapon. So it's more like "doesn't shoot anything made of condensed matter" or something.
>>318174369
>>318174832
UV and up would just give you cancer, IR is far more dangerous in the short term because it'd cook you at that point if it were concentrated enough
>>318174923
>we can assume
you can, but I don't
>>318175240
okay theyre actually bundled sound energy
i think i can go ahead and assume youre a fucking sagbag
>>318174624
you have to come back later and do a quest to cure the little kid
>>318175325
>i think i can go ahead and assume youre a fucking sagbag
that would be rude though
Is Who wants to be a millionaire just a game of luck?
I mean, there's 33.34% chance of being right unless the person happen to know the answer, and lifelines can only get you so far into the game
>>318174750
Fun fact: 1 bolt of lightning typically has about 30 MJ of energy
>>318175472
that would be if you made the assumption that sagbag is an insult.
now why would you make that assumption unless you subconsciously know youre incorrect about them not being lasers?
>>318175481
Is it Richard Nixon? I know he was an actor
>>318173207
Its like having a door handle on the side where the hinges are.
Its fucking stupid to do.
>>318175481
if you play it like just guessing 1 out of 4 each time, then yes its a game of luck.
but that wont get you very far.
and theres more than just that, theres for example the ability to exclude options by knowing one of the false answers to be false.
yes its luck, but only as far as your knowledge doesnt reach, which includes the logic behind multiple choice questions
>>318175481
Technically yes, but if you want to luck out with every question, the probability gets cut in half each time. There are 20 questions, so that's only a 33/40 = less than 1 percent chance of actually winning by luck.
>>318175854
>>318175830
Let's say there are 15 questions with 4 choices each. Let's also say there are 3 lifelines: call-a-friend, 50-50, and ask-the-audience.
For each of the 15 questions, there is only 1 correct answer, and 3 incorrect answers, so immediately your chances are 1/3 = 33.34%. You can use each lifeline once. Using phone-a-friend, let's say gives you a 95% chance the person you call is correct. So 1 question is 95%. Similarly, we can say ask-the-audience gives you a 95% chance. Finally, 50-50 will remove 2 wrong answers, so you have 1 right answer and 1 wrong answer, so you basically know the answer. To recap:
Question 1: 33.34%
Question 2: 33.34%
Question 3: 33.34%
Question 4: 95% <--- ask-the-audience
Question 5: 33.34%
Question 6: 33.34%
Question 7: 33.34%
Question 8: 33.34%
Question 9: 95% <--- phone-a-friend
Question 10: 33.34%
Question 11: 33.34%
Question 12: 33.34%
Question 13: 33.34%
Question 14: 33.34%
Question 15: 100% <--- 50-50
Total: 690.08%
Divided by 15 questions = 46.00%
So basically, it's more a less a game of chance, but more than half the people on the show will lose, so it's not very fair. That show is making tons of money off of people
>>318175634
>why would you make that assumption
because I don't like sagbags, and I don't know anyone that does
>>318175672
Nixon wasn't an actor. Reagan was.
>>318169963
Except that the force is astronomically small, and impossible to detect with only human senses.
>>318170170
But that's what he said
>>318175989
Depends on how strong your laser is. Someone did the numbers on that in some /tg/ thread once, and I think it was about the energy needed to vaporize a small lake.
>>318176165
Forgot to mention, that was for the recoil to be the same as that of an AK.
>>318175925
>1 correct answer, and 3 incorrect answers, so immediately your chances are 1/3
1/4, and then you have to multply them
if you try to guess all 15 you have a (1/4)^15= 9.3 * 10 ^ -8 % chance of succeeding.
>>318175672
Richard Nixon was not an actor, you are thinking of Ronald Reagan.
Richard Nixon however did appear on laugh in, and many actually attribute it as one of the most influential events of the 60s. Richard Nixon was portrayed as this grumpy, disgruntled, and non personable candidate.
After appearing on a comedy show, the American people saw a different side of Nixon (he was laughing, being personable etc) and less than 2 months later he was elected to presidency.
The candidate opposing him(Hubert Humphrey) was invited to the show as well, but turned it down.
Humphrey went on to say later that not appearing may have cost him the election.
>>318175925
>50-50 will remove 2 wrong answers, so you have 1 right answer and 1 wrong answer, so you basically know the answer. To recap:
Not necessarily. You still might have no fucking clue what's going on, it'd only boost you up to 50%
And this isn't a casino. They make their money from the network through advertisement etc.
Even a show that pays out 100% of the time could turn a profit in theory.
>>318175925
why can't /v/ do literally anything right
>>318175925
well first of all your chances of getting the right answer out of 4 answers is 1/4 not 1/3
(1/4)^11 x (95/100)^2 x 1/2
which is 2.6896596e-8
so .000000027 % of winning
also the 95% for phone ins is asspulled
>>318172103
Photons have no rest mass. The only "mass" they have is basically momentum, which makes it seem like they have mass even though they don't.
>>318176360
>(1/4)^11 x (95/100)^2 x 1/2
i meant (1/4)^12, which is calculated correctly i just made a typo
>>318175925
>For each of the 15 questions, there is only 1 correct answer, and 3 incorrect answers, so immediately your chances are 1/3 = 33.34%.
>Finally, 50-50 will remove 2 wrong answers, so you have 1 right answer and 1 wrong answer, so you basically know the answer.
>Question 1: 33.34%
>Question 2: 33.34% [...]
>Total: 690.08%
>Divided by 15 questions = 46.00%
Am I getting baited?
>>318171829
>tfw all energy is just movement
>>318175780
I wasn't saying it isn't a bad design choice for a right handed shooter, i'm just saying that in a post apocalypse i would take any functioning firearm i could get until my circumstances allowed me to acquire a new one.
>>318175925
>>318175481
where the hell are you getting 33.34% from? wouldn't it be 25%?
>>318176390
What it really boils down to is that different people call different things "mass". You're in the camp that only calls rest mass "mass".
>>318172515
but that's wrong you fucking retard. 1/100th of a second, so you'd see nothing really.
>>318176502
No. He's obviously dead serious.
Christ, you fuckers are dense.
>>318176571
>>318176359
>>318176351
>>318176313
That goes for you, too.
>>318169554
Light doesn't have mass.
Photons transmit as packets, not particles dumbass
>>318176571
>>318176502
>>318176360
>>318176359
>>318176351
>>318176313
>not recognizing this ancient copypasta
nice to know everyone here started posting in 2014
Okay thats cool and all about how lasers work but
how does the gamma gun work, especially since it looks ghetto as fuck
>>318176597
Mass is a Lorentz-invariant, as in it doesn't matter in which system you describe it.
If the particle's mass at rest is zero then it's always zero.
>>318176165
Well he didn't realize the fact that light doesn't need a propellant to give it velocity, which is the reason normal guns have recoil.
He was basically saying that the light our sun gives us has pushed the earth off its orbit, which it hasn't. Because the force coming from ALL light hitting earth is impossible to notice without equipment.
>>318176839
Let me rephrase it for you:
You're in the camp that only calls the Lorentz-invariant property "mass".
>>318176706
>>318176759
you got double baited
>>318176759
>did a simple calculation that took a few seconds
>LOL I BEIT U
>>318176872
I think you're talking about a different post.
>>318171394
You don't need armor at all to boost anything. Go for more speed
>>318176597
Except that i just said "rest mass". By claiming that light has mass you're denying most of the modern physics we know, so I don't think you should embarrass yourself further
>>318165917
its because the lasers heat up your gun too much and your character has to fidget with the gun a bit so he doesnt get his palms burnt
>>318176971
Mass has a clear deifinition.
There are no "camps."
>This thread
>>318177083
You said rest mass. The guy you responded to did not, and neither did I.
You also said that this:
>The only "mass" they have is basically momentum, which makes it seem like they have mass even though they don't.
Which, again, puts you in the camp of people who only call rest mass "real", whereas the other camp talks about mass as something that can change depending on reference frame.
>>318177060
No, I am referring to what you said. Light needs no propellant since it's massless, so even if it causes a force, it is insignificant
>>318176980
>>318177009
its a copy pasta, not some shitty le epic bait meme you underage fuckwad
die of aids
>>318177352
That's wrong, then. More light means more force, so if you use enough it becomes relevant.
>settler is welding a wooden door
>dosent scream in pain due to arc flash and slag fusing to their eyes.
>>318177472
And since ALL the light hitting earth is not enough to make it relevant, how could a laser gun's be?
>>318169718
I PM'ed you the patch ;^)
if light has mass then why dont we just use a short laser in modern guns that acts as a railgun for the bullet
recoilless bullets that travel at the speed of light.
>>318177226
>were you there
every time
>>318177598
Because the Earth is a little heavier than you are, that's why.
I mean I could understand a kick from whatever the hell goes on inside the rifle but there shouldn't be any recoil from the laser exiting the muzzle, its focused light beams, it shouldn't rising vertically like its an M14
>>318177226
reading this hurts so bad
>>318177809
Why does an M14 rise vertically? Is it because the bullet does downwards or because the gas goes downwards?
>>318177226
This is a pretty good example of how you can raise human beings to 100% believe something so diametrically opposed to another human being. I.E people killing each other because of race/creed/religion/etc.
>>318177226
>were you there
I don't know why I find this so funny.
People actually say this.
>>318168947
>Light has mass guise
>>318177958
because the heavier moving parts handling the rechamber process are at the top of the gun, pulling it up when they're kicked back
>>318177958
Because where the barrel is positioned is above where you're holding the gun, the bullet leaving the muzzle and the propelling gases leaving the muzzle is what causes the recoil in the first place, grip positioning is what changes which direction the recoil goes.
>>318177226
>yuropoor being this butthurt
>sonic is fast as light
>sonic has mass
>means light has mass
>>318178404
Sounds like the barrel of a laser gun powerful enough to have recoil should rise as well, then.
>>318178432
actually hes as fast as the speed of sound
thats why his name is fucking sonic you literal dongus
>>318178404
Sorry, not direction the recoil goes but how much rise it has. Nearly every conventional firearm is going to rise upward is someway, there's no changing the direction. Unless you hold upside down like a retard or something.
>>318178432
are you literally a fucking moron dude
ARE YOU LITERALLY
A FUCKING
MORON
DUDE
>>318178514
>Sounds like the barrel of a laser gun powerful enough to have recoil
It shouldn't have recoil.
>>318178534
>>318178576
thank you for the replies, it really aroused me
>>318165917
Here you go, OP
fuck you todd howard you dirty dog
>>318178615
It should if it's preposterously powerful enough, we've been over this.
>>318173676
that whole picture is wrong
>>318178425
>Implying i'm Yuropoor
>Not South American
You are just reinforcing what my first post stated
>>318178774
actually theyre all correct aside from the 26 letter one because other languages have more letters but hes most likely referring to english literature
>>318170981
Wouldn't that deafen you instantly?
>>318175481
>33.34% of chance
am I missing something here
>>318178791
>South Americans so butthurt they direct any and every possible conversation towards Americans
So you behave exactly the same as yuropoor only you live in an even shittier area. Congrats anon.
>>318168947
fuck this turkey captcha
It might have simulated recoil. Because people are used to it.
>>318170981
I fired my Glock 19 in my swimming pool and the bullet landed about 2 feet from where I shot it.
>>318179058
Can you accurately simulate recoil?
>>318179139
I imagine a rifle would go quite a bit farther.
/sci/ GO HOME THIS IS VIDEOGAME BOARD
>>318171829
>yfw you realize temperature is movement
>>318178880
To simply say brown is every color mixed together is wrong, music isn't just comprised of vibrations, happiness isn't just A chemical, its a mix. Nickel doesn't cost 11.2 cents to make, cars are not powered by dinosaurs.
>>318178514
You're not understanding what cause the recoil here. The gases that are created from igniting the load in the round propels the bullet out of the barrel, with the gases also exiting the barrel which is what causes the recoil. The action of a rifle can cause some kick and the slide of a pistol going backwards (depending on weight of the slide) can cause additional recoil.
The Laser Rifle has no gases exiting its muzzle, its nothing but a burst of focused light; its not combusting the air or blasting any gases out. The charge of creating that quick burst of laser could cause some vibration or backwards kick, sure but there is literally 0 reasons for it kick upwards.
>>318179226
Mythbusters have tested this you fucking idiot.
>>318177651
I know this is troll logic but damn son
Just
Damn
>>318179282
colour
>thinking pigment = light
all sound is just vibration
vibrations under different circumstances, but vibrations none the less
>happiness isnt a chemical
>its a mix of chemicals :^)
and i dont know the metal prices in the states, im sure at the time it was accurate.
and fuel comes from fossils
>>318179396
And I was explaining why the pistol didn't perform well in his personal test. Try to pay attention anon.
>>318179319
The gases leave the firearm's barrel in the same direction as the laser leaving the laser gun. Meaning that the force applied to either gun is applied along the same axis.
>>318179385
portals cant be on surfaces that move
>>318179385
B
wat do i win?
>>318179490
maybe you should rewrite his picture to make it better anon
>>318179385
the surfaces that portals are placed on are a non factor
all that matters is the original object's momentum and gravity
>>318179385
Unless the platform is going so fast it collides the edge of the portal with the box, it's B.
>>318179385
Portal 2's engine says the block would not gain the momentum of the moving portal, even relativistically
That said, Portal 2's engine breaks canon laws of physics; portals cannot be placed on moving objects
>>318179546
Sure they can. You do that in Portal 2, to cut those neurotoxin lines.
>>318179028
>South Americans so butthurt they direct any and every possible conversation towards Americans
But you used ''Yuropoor'', wich is only used by NORTH Americans
>So you behave exactly the same as yuropoor only you live in an even shittier area.
>Americans can only think about Mexico/Venezuela/Colombia when they hear South America
>Being this ignorant
>Not knowing I live in South America's Europe
You should stop posting Anon, you are only shaming yourself here
>inb4 I was just pretending I'm retarded
>>318179489
its not bait, i was just showing the logical fallacies of people that genuinely believe light has a non negligible mass
>>318179670
scripted and non-canon
>>318179507
No you said the rifle would go much father.
Mythbusters explained very well why it wouldn't.
>>318179661
You mean moving in relation to each other.
Because technically all portals are on moving objects.
>>318179694
No I understand but
Goddamn son
How many brain cells did you have to kill?
>>318179396
Oh shit the Mythbusters! Did they make sure to crosscheck their findings with Sid the Science Kid?
>>318179785
Provide proofs in the Half-Life/Portal canon
>>318179672
>South America's Europe
>he actually believes he doesn't live in a shithole
>>318179809
>shoot a gun underwater
>bullet doesn't go
>HURR BIASED NONSCIENTIFIC STUDY INVALID DURR
>>318165917
Light yields a force you poopy butt
>>318180010
Nah
>>318171728
Except it doesn't retard. You don't even see the laser travel it just appears.
>>318179893
Portal's events happen on alternate Earth and so a planet.
This planet orbits a star and therefore is moving.
Therefore the non-movement restriction has to be relaxed to allow simultaneous translations of both portals.
>>318179225
depends on the kind of recoil, I'd imagine if you took a rotational motor of some kind and attached an asymmetrical weight like rumble packs in video game controllers. Having it's axis running horizontally and sideways. Then having the the motor engage in bursts when the weight would be pulling upward and back it would create something. You could probably even use two that work in alternation to get something more accurate.
>>318179942
>He think's it's a shithole because we are on a financial crisis
>>318172267
If that's the case they really aren't laser guns at all then, more like ultra-focused nuclear explosions (they ARE powered by fusion cells that are completely expended afterward)
meaning bethesda STILL fucked up
>Game has radation
>All it does it lower your maximum health
Is there any game with realistic radiation effects
>>318179996
I don't know man, they did fire it into a swimming pool. I'm sure all the chlorine must've skewed the results because as we all know chlorine decreases the half life of bullets by nanoseconds.
>>318180297
actually its the corruption, crime, financial crisis, lack of prospect, the lack of jobs, the lack of people willing to work, the lack of education.
>this thread
/v/ really is bad like the rumors say. No one everyone tells eveyone else to go to >>>/v/. I'll be safely making my way back to /lit/
>>318180360
don't think so because you'd never be able to get rid of it. So it would have to be a roguelike or something.
>>318180634
woah he browses /lit/ he must be so smart.
so, please enlighten us all, tell us about the nature of light on a quantum level
>>318180634
That one was pretty good.
>>318180360
>radiation makes you less healthy
Makes sense
>>318179530
What exits the muzzle (and in a pistol's case, the slide) is what causes vertical recoil. Gases exiting the barrel are being released from compression and exposed to air, causing a backwards push that lifts the firearm back and upwards due to the barrel being positioned above the grip.
When it comes to the Laser Rifle or Pistol there is NO gases leaving muzzle nor is there any type of slide/action. A mini nuclear fusion cell is fueling a creation of light that is focused and magnified enough to cause damage and be lethal. The only thing that should happen that can be felt by the user should be a vibration or shake from the energy of the fusion cell. There is no gases, combustion, propellant or anything. There are no reasons for any upward recoil.
>>318180506
>Corruption
That's the key word Anon
Now that Macri won the elections, Argentina is going to get it's shit together.
Also
>lack of Education
>What are the best free universities of the world
>>318180926
yes not that the elections are through the whole world is perfect and by no means has this shit happened before
i also forgot to mention to terrible quality of life in my earlier post.
also
>the best free universities
the fact that you dont know about the existence of europe says a lot of about mexico i guess
>>318180894
We've already established that we're talking about a preposterously powerful laser gun that fires pulses with enough energy to cause recoil by radiation pressure, haven't we?
>>318168620
Directed Energy Weapons are recoil-less.
Of course, DEWs can also be rendered completely useless by a small dust cloud getting in the way of the beam, so talking about how little sense they make in the fallout universe is probably pointless
>Playing vidya set in space
>flying around
>wooshing and thruster noises
>fire my ship's weapon
>it makes a pew pew sound
what if you made a gun so strong the recoil literally killed you and then gave it to your enemies
>>318168947
>Light
>Having mass, or acceleration for that matter
>>318169540
>Europeans don't know that E=mc^2
>>318181171
>laser pulses
>radiation pressure
>activated almonds
>>318181553
The joke here is that you're pretending those aren't real things, or what? I'll have you know that I have three quantum physics textbooks on my desk and I'm eating activated almonds right now.
>>318181171
>Radiation Pressure
And here I thought I was having an actual discussion.
>>318181275
well technically if you're hearing what the PC hears you'd hear your thrusters in the sense they be making vibrations in your suit. Which would vibrate the air in your helmet at a particular frequency making an audible noise. It would not sound anything like you'd probably expect though or might be in very low in intensity. And if your ships weapons were anchored to the ship and generated enough vibration they might make a sound too. Sound is not purely created by the oscillation of particles in an atmosphere it can pass through solid or liquid mediums as well. Like the cans on wire thing you did when you were a kid.
>>318181370
Go home Jayden Smith
I vaguely recall from /tg/ the reason for Imperial Lasguns having "recoil" wasn't from the gun discharging the laser but the surrounding air heating up fast enough to make a small "explosion" that pushes the Lasgun and simulates recoil.
Anyone wanna chime in if that's actually a valid explanation for a directed energy weapon having "recoil"?
>>318181859
Those forces are so negligible, you might as well bring calculus.
>>318181978
No, at the very most, a handheld device would produce short electrical arches. That's all.
Provided it's in an oxyhydrogen filled atmosphere of course.
>>318181978
in the 40k universe? sure its pretty badass, and is true
but in practice in real life, if the force was strong enough to explode the oxygen around it, it would shatter the integrity of your matter too
>>318171445
This doesn't mean light has mass, jackass.
>>318181989
You don't need calculus for that, just basic arithmetic. Get the momentum of the bullet and multiply it by the speed of light, and you've got the energy the laser pulse needs to have. It's going to be a lot because the speed of light is a big number.
>>318169561
sounds like troll science, but he's actually right. In special relativity, we basically equate them by setting c = 1 in computations for convenience.
>>318169840
the only exception being weapon customization. Fuck me i'm a stickler for gun modding
>>318168620
Yes. Sunshine and rainbows are light which is what the energy is being converted into.
>>318181978
Are their lasguns firing actual laser as in focused, directed light? Because if its being directed it shouldn't do that. And if it did it be blowing the weapon to pieces and the person wielding it.
>>318182278
Bullet? We're talking photons
>>318182502
>Because if its being directed it shouldn't do that.
Of course it should. It's still going through air.
>>318170756
If you want to toss around stereotypes like an arrogant empty brain pan your input is utterly discarded, yuropoor.
while photons (little packets of light energy) do not have mass, they do have momentum, and a change in momentum yields a force, so in actual fact light is able to physically interact with matter
>>318181978
Yes, that is a plausible explanation.
http://m.phys.org/news/2010-09-scientists-meter-scale-distances-video.html
>>318165917
It's hot enough to create a large expansion in air and thus push you back from the beam.
>>318182583
So am I. I told you how to figure out how much energy a laser rifle needs to put out in order to have the same recoil as a firearm that shoots a bullet. You need to know the momentum of the bullet for that.
>>318169084
>>318171539
>>318178136
>>318181403
>Photons are traditionally said to be massless. *This is a figure of speech* that physicists use to describe something about how a photon's particle-like properties are described by the language of special relativity.
>>318182619
True, but my second point still stands, if its heating the air up so strongly that its causing an explosion the explosion is going to be sizable enough to blow the user away.
>>318182785
Photons are more or less disruptions in particles. They have as much mass as a sound wave, none.
>>318182914
>Here's an explanation of a thing that has yet to be given any real description
>>318182906
If the explosion is sizable enough to blow the user away, just make the laser less powerful.
>>318168947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVrJUbeuG44
>>318182986
Electrons have mass because they are a physical part of an atom, just far smaller than the nucleus.
Photons aren't really a particle.
>>318168947
>>318168620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBPqksG9nbA
>>318183161
>Electrons have mass because they are a physical part of an atom, just far smaller than the nucleus.
That "explanation" is honestly the stupidest thing I have read in this thread. That's because it looks like you actually think it means something.
>>318165917
>talk to mr.handy robot after you get out of the vault.
>game goes apeshit and teleports me halfway across the map for no fucking reason what so ever and finishes like half the main quest line.
what the fuck?
>>318183269
You actually going to bother countering it or just say "it's stupid"
>>318183004
I don't think you understand just how powerful that laser is to cause an explosion in the air from a short burst. You can contain the explosion that easily and if you make it cause no explosion at all I don't know if it will still be lethal.
>>318183364
can't* contain
I meant
>>318183317
its not a game bug
the main quest really is just that short
>>318183347
In the words of Wolfgang Pauli, it's so stupid that it isn't even wrong
>>318183364
>You can't contain the explosion that easily
Yes you can. BY MAKING THE FUCKING LASER LESS POWERFUL.
>if you make it cause no explosion at all I don't know if it will still be lethal.
It most certainly will. There are plenty of industrial lasers that can cut metal and don't cause a constant cacophony of explosions.
>>318182906
Not him but you arbitrarily decided it's making an explosion and decided to go with it, it's not creating an explosion, it's simply creating heat, heat can be an after effect of an explosion but doesn't mean that heat can create explosions, explosions are chemical reactions.
Lasers simply create heat.
>>318183936
>Lasers simply create heat.
gee and what would enough heat cause oxygen to do?
>>318183746
>I'm mad because I'm mad and think I'm better than everyone.
you're not even masking it at this point.
>>318169540
>using murican cartoon meme
>>318184138
Are you serious? You're not shooting in a chamber full of helium
>>318183936
>explosions are chemical reactions.
So a nuke doesn't create an explosion?
>>318184272
>air is 100% oxygen
>Americans believe light can push things
No wonder you are the most religious country in the world.
>tfw turn the light on and the room gets bigger
>>318184406
>Most religious country in the world
Are you even aware of your current situation Euro-poor?
>>318184343
>>318184272
>>318184138
Why the fuck are you people bringing up the composition of air here? The explosion would be because heating up gas makes it expand and nothing else.
>>318184540
>tfw the universe is expanding
>>318184343
Exactly, as if the amount of oxygen struck by a laser would cause a perceptible explosion, it would be the equivalent of using a lighter if that
>>318165917
>Gauss gun
>uses batteries as ammo
>>318171445
You win! Click here to claim your prize!
>>318184801
>2mm Electromagnetic Cartridge
Doesn't sound like a battery to me.
>>318183161
>Electrons have mass because they are a physical part of an atom
That's not an explanation for anything. There are plenty of particles that aren't part of atoms, but have rest mass anyway. If you want an explanation of why electrons have mass, you'll have to ask someone who knows his shit in regards to the Higgs field.
>Photons aren't really a particle.
That's flat-out wrong. You're probably thinking about electromagnetic fields here or something, but it turns out that that's not a contradiction. All particles are excitations of fields.
>>318185242
well an electromagnet would not work without a battery so its implied
>>318185242
Wasn't talking about Fallout 4 specifically.
It's the ONLY game I've seen with Gauss rifles that actually use bullets as ammo like they should, though.
>>318169963
Probably wind has a grater effect on the gun position than recoil from condensed light discharge.
>>318186167
A gauss gun should obviously use both batteries and bullets as ammunition. But since the bullets would almost certainly be much smaller than the batteries and building a system with two different magazines just for that gun wouldn't be worth the hassle, most games boil it down to calling the ammo "batteries".
I really don't see the problem with this.
>>318168947
I WONDER HOW IT TRAVELS AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT HAHAHAHAHA
>>318170417
Best idea so far.
Only if the air absorbs a lot of energy. Laser would have to emit something that is absorbed by air. Air is also a very good heat isolator. everything would have to happen instantly, not gradually. There's plenty of problems with the idea.
>>318186749
>Laser would have to emit something that is absorbed by air
Yes. Light.
>Air is also a very good heat isolator
That has nothing to do with anything. We're not talking about fucking heat conduction here.
>everything would have to happen instantly
Yes. That's why it's an explosion. Gas expanding very quickly.
>>318177226
>Smile sticker
>Misread as Smite
Deus Vult
>362 replies
>141 retards
And a partridge in a pear tree.
>>318186749
That is assuming that the laser starts from inside the barrel, Fallout lasers don't even have a barrel, the laser starts from the tip of the gun the expanded gas doesn't have just one exit from the front causing a recoil back.
>>318187393
Literally every fucking thread.
>>318187709
It would make sense to have something like a barrel extend a little further than the optics, to make it harder to scratch them.
>>318187393
Watching the discussion unfold is like something amazing
video games
>>318184801
Fuck you, STALKER's Arsenal Overhaul's Gauss Rifle was pure sex
Also it used pieces of the Flash artifact to make the batteries
>>318187709
Not to mention if they had a barrel and the laser starts for example at trigger height there is no reason to not have secondary exists for the gas (if it's even a problem) considering it has no projectile that needs to be pushed by the gas expulsion forward created by the shell being struck
>>318187393
only retard here is you for not realizing augment can be entertaining even if it's over nonsense. It's likely the reason for most threads on /v/, we like the fight simple as that.
>>318187393
>>318188012
Again this is literally every thread on 4chan you fucking retard, it just means every poster has made 2.5 posts on average ITT
>>318165917
>Lasers, visible in clear air (no fog, no rain, no dust)
>>318165917
>laser """rifle"""
>the light doesn't spin from the rifling
>>318169084
Photons have momentum p, E=p*c. It's just very small.
>>318188349
I have a laser pointer that is visible in clear air if it's dark enough. It's called Rayleigh scattering.
>people are so stupid that they think every laser depicted in fiction is literally just light.
Most "lasers" in sci-fi are really plasma cannons, like the blasters in star wars. Those would definitely have recoil.
>>318188591
>Rayleigh scattering
Please don't awake yet, I'm waiting for good games.
>>318188747
So what is the plasma rifle in Fallout?
>>318188518
Sure it does. All laser rifles fire circular polarized light. It's done so that accidental reflections back into the rifle can be absorbed by the linear polarizer after going through the lambda quarter plate.
>>318182491
>Not called 'Bang'
>>318188747
So call it a fucking plasma gun then.
>>318188968
Fallout has both laser guns and plasma guns.
>>318189246
My point is that it laser guns are just firing plasma, why are they different from plasma guns? Why wouldn't they be called plasma guns instead of laser guns?
>>318181370
BRILLIANT
>>318188934
Then explain to me the effect of circular polarized light on dihedral bi-lateral phase detractors on the typical shielding of the diametric prefamulated amulate used in your so-called "laser rifles".
>>318169986
Hey guys, i believe this creature here is trying to communicate!
>>318165917
>doesn't realise light has momentum
fucking retarded non-physicists
>>318189378
Oh please. If your phase detractors are bi-lateral, going through them either way will just add up to a phase shift of nothing. Your amulates will be just fine, no matter whether you bought them prefamulated like a pleb or actually went the extra mile and famulated them yourself.
>>318165917
do you not understand physics
actions have opposing reactions, when you cause a reaction and fire a beam of energy from a tube there's energy dispersed from the discharge
>>318167293
>There aren't any good sex mods for fallout 4
I actually want to fuck the characters this time around /v/.
Pls help
>>318189704
the energy is being dispersed as the fucking laser beam, genius
>>318187393
On the 2nd day of Christmas my true love sent to me
>>318168947
Put it like this, say I had a box that weiged 15oz and I put all the light I can get from the sun into the box then sealed it do you think it's mass would incrce to 17oz?
>>318190447
If you managed to put *all* the light from the sun in there it would increase to a lot more than that.
>>318189704
You don't sound like you're very much of a physicist either. "There's energy dispersed from the discharge"? What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Why are you even talking about energy in the context of recoil? Momentum is a lot more appropriate.
Everyone knows the laser rifles in Fallout have recoil because they actually fire a projectile. They shoot acrylic tunes filled with hot light, that's why the shots have travel time and make kind of an explosion looking thing upon impact. That's what the fusion cell is for, it superheats the acrylic while it's in the chamber in order for it to take the correct cylindrical shape.
>>318190798
Please don't confuse him with your weird "Relativity Theory".
>>318190878
>have recoil because they actually fire a projectile.
...So?
>this thread
I don't get none of this shit JUST PLEASE TALK ABOUT VIDEO GAMES
>>318190851
when you shoot a gun there's recoil
same idea just different ammunition
l2source material, dipshit
>>318171953
>Its marginally worse than NV in writing.
>marginally worse
>>318191467
Not that guy.
Are you dumb? "When you shoot a gun there is recoil" I assume you mean a conventional gun right? So?
>>318165917
EXPLAIN THIS:
>turn on flashlight
>start moving forward with flashlight
>light is now traveling faster than the speed of light from me pushing it
checkm8 athiests
>>318179546
How does one put portals on the earth and moon if they're moving objects in space?
>>318192345
The light isn't traveling faster, it's just doppler shifted, like the sound from an oncoming train isn't going faster, it's just shifted in pitch like the light is shifted in wavelength.
Sorry for not playing.
>>318171829
You're face when you realize that walking is just putting one foot in front of the other while leaning forward
>>318177226
People don't actually think this is a real test right? Did you guys learn nothing fromgamergate? One of the most obvious false flags I've seen.
>>318192501
Alright, here's one for you. Point a powerful laser at the left edge of the moon. Move it to point at the right edge in less than .01 seconds.
The laser dot on the moon's surface has just traveled more than 3400 kilometers, making it move at more than 340000 kph, which is faster than light.
Your move, Einstein.
>>318191003
Firing a projectile = recoil. Did you even read the rest of my post, about the tubes?
>>318172076
Have you not really looked at Einsteins work?
The special relativity train / light experiment.
Light travels at a speed, and would have to travel to you.
you would get hit the moment you see him fire, because that image, as well as the laser is going the speed of light and get to you at the same time, but there is actually a delay from when he fires to when you get hit.
>>318191467
The reason a gun (or indeed laser) has recoil is to do with the conservation of momentum, not energy conservation, friend.
>>318192345
not how it works, c is measured the same in all inertial frames. time dilates and lengths contract in order to compensate.
>>318193072
>kph
Should be kps, obviously.
Oh man, I love troll physics threads! I haven't seen one of these in years.
>>318179396
>Mythbusters
>not slo mo guys
>>318193072
The light would disperse over the entire moon when you moved it meaning there would be no laser dot visible at any point on the moon.
Crashing this thread with no survivors.
>>318181370
kickstart this shit
>>318194169
How is there even discussion about this image? Lift is generated by air moving around the wings, this obviously doesn't happen if the plane is on a treadmill.
Put the whole thing in a powerful wind tunnel and we can talk.
>/v/ actually thinks photons don't have mass
>>318193826
Nah, a big enough optics assembly should be able to focus a laser to a distinct spot on the moon, and moving it wouldn't be a fundamental problem either.It's just that a laser spot isn't actually a physical entity and can't carry information.
>>318194390
Well yes, that too.
>>318194363
So are you saying the plane takes off, or it doesn't?Because it does. Its wheels just turn twice as fast as normal during takeoff.
>>318194363
>this obviously doesn't happen if the plane is on a treadmill
Why would a propeller-powered plane not move forward on a treadmill? The treadmill must rely on the friction between the wheels and the wheel bearings in order to move the plane backwards. If the propeller's running just enough to overcome that friction, the plane's going to move forward no matter how fast the treadmill's going.
>>318179225
did you never play Time Crisis at the arcade?
>>318180360
What realistic effects ? Making you impotent ? Or having a small tumor and dying a month later ?
>>318194545
That is beyond retarded, there is no lift, it can't take off unless it's in a wind tunnel.
IT CREATES RECOIL BECAUSE OF THE MAGNETIC AND EXPLOSIVE FORCES CAUSED BY THE MICROFUSION CHARGE BEING CONSUMES
YOU RETARS DON'T KNOW SCIENCE JUST BUY THE GAME ALREADY
>>318194739
There is lift. Why wouldn't there be lift?
>>318194607
How long is the treadmill? In the picture it's barely long enough to have the plane on it, it can't take off with this little space. If you have a treadmill the size of a runway, fine, it would work (and be a waste of fuel), but that's not what's in the picture.
>>318194739
The wheels rotate freely, the plane generates its momentum with the rotary fan by forcing air backwards, not from frictional force on the road by the tyres like a car does. The plane would simply take off as normal, as long as the treadmill was long enough, it might simply fall off the end.
>>318180689
>STALKER-themed roguelike where the main hazard is radiation
>have to deal with tumors, and detrimental/beneficial mutations as you get progressively more irradiated throughout the game
>goal is to stave off death by radiation poisoning long enough to make it to the end
Fund it.
>>318194858
Even if the plane wouldn't take off from the treadmill, it would move forward until it fell off the treadmill, at which point it could take off from the ground.
>>318171829
>yfw when you walk west, you're actually slowing down so earth can pass by you.
>>318194739
>there is no lift
Yes there is. A treadmill can't stop a plane from moving because the plane doesn't have to push itself off it like a jogger or a car would.
>>318165917
I love how god damn science inept this damn board is....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photonic_laser_thruster
>>318180634
>No one everyone tells everyone else to go to
>>>/lit/ everyone.
>>318172267
It's not tehcnically light, it's intense heat radiation.
Know how if you don't stand ontop of fire and get heat from the hot air but stand near it and feel warmth? That's heat radiation.
All hot things have heat radiation. Even in space. That's why retards who claim that "hur durr guns can't shoot in spess coz no air it'd melt lafflol" are wrong, guns would radiate heat quite effectively. The difference between shooting in atmosphere and out of atmosphere would be around 40-60%. Only difference it makes that instead of shooting 500 rounds non stop before barrel is red hot you can only shoot 250 rounds non stop.
Which is not a problem, just change the barrels on your machinegun and problem solved.
Problem with firearms in space is cold welding.
>>318195204
>Says we are inept at science
>Literally thinks shining a flashlight behind you could prove to be a viable propulsion method in space
You'd get more thrust by throwing a paperclip behind you.
>>318195570
>It's intense heat radiation.
That is technically light, dude. Infrared light.
>>318172423
We have missiles and airplanes(propably) and projectiles that travel at that speed.
Didn't know railguns shot at lightspeed.
>>318172267
The paint is burned off by heat, energy which is imparted to the objects when the light hits it. That's not force.
The ash clouds moving back is more likely to be due to air movement than being "pushed" by the light.
>>318181370
the fuck
did they sand off that dog's canines?
>>318175925
Is this bait? How can someone function without knowing basic statistics?
>dont be racist to mudslimes and niggers guise
>BUT ITS TOTALLY FUCKING HILARIOUS TO MAKE FUN OF AMERICANS LOL
I wish I could hate people to death.
>>318170981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvSTuLIjRm8
50cal above the water, doesn't do shit, couldn't go past 3 feet of water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp5gdUHFGIQ
Ak47 shot underwater gets only a few feet distance, you'd have to shoot someone point blank in order for a gun to be deadly underwater.
I don't see any bullet being effective as a projectile underwater, you'd have to have something specifically designed for water dynamics to be effective, I don't think bullets give that.
>>318189378
>Then explain to me the effect of circular polarized light on dihedral bi-lateral phase detractors on the typical shielding of the diametric prefamulated amulate used in your so-called "laser rifles".
>>318181521
No wonder Eistein came to America from Germany. Europoors are just retarded.
>>318172484
>what is a null vector
>this whole thread
>Exploring a bunker filled with protectrons
>Reach the end where I come across the final robot frozen against a wall
>Think nothing of it as I draw closer with super sledge in hand ready to break his dome and claim the fusion cells inside
>Just as I lift my sledge the screen freezes, the final image is of my sledge bearing down on the glass cranium
>The image stutters several times before settling on a clear sky unlike any I've seen before
>Several seconds pass before it jumps back to where I was before
>The protectron from before is now facing me, his arms outstretched in a pose reminiscent of our lord jesus christ
>"Identify yourself" His voice calls out in passive roboticness, apathetic and infinitely wise
>The stuttering returns again, once more everything goes black before realighting on a scene of the commonwealth sky
>A while passes, maybe ten or thirty seconds before I hear something amazing
>The roar of the ocean and the cry of seagulls fills me like rad-x near the glowing sea
>The cold water splashes against my character's skin, when I check the pipboy it shows I'm at the very edge of the map in the ocean
>Swim back to land cold and fatigued from the rads and the surf, but kindled spiritually by my encounter with that benign presence
My character is now a faithful follower of the lord
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>>318195084
You fucking tards. The dumb comic is assuming the Plane is stationary. In order for lift to be achieved the airflow around the wings have to overcome stall velocity, which doesn't happen in the comic.
>>318199046
>The dumb comic is assuming the Plane is stationary
No, the reason that this question gets people so riled up is that it doesn't say whether it assumes that.
>>318193072
lol you must come from /sci/
It has nothing to do with the speed of the individual photons of light. Just like if you shot a gun in one direction, then quickly shot it in the opposite direction, the individual bullets wouldn't have changed speed even if they hit objects twice as far apart as they could have traveled in that time
>>318199046
The comic shows that the plane is moving forwards.
>>318175925
Hi I know it's already been implied but just so you know, averaging consecutive percentages is not at all how probability works.
>>318199046
It says the plane and the treadmill are moving the same speed,
so it can't be stationary,
it's wheels would spin twice as fast tho
>>318165917
Light has momentum, and this momentum creates a force.
As we all know from newtons laws, for every action there is a equal and opposite reaction. The force of the light moving forward would create some form of recoil.
Not a very noticeable one unless the gun is extremely powerful, but it would cause recoil nonetheless.
However in this case it's there for fucking gameplay purposes, because if it didn't have recoil it would bother most people more than the fact that the physics of it doesn't make sense
>light from the sun literally pushes asteroids in the asteroid belt
>can't cause gun recoil
It's actually a mechanical mechanism of shifting gun parts that causes the recoil. Not the light.
/thread
>>318200925
what parts are shifting in a laser?
>>318201303
The parts that shift when firing the lazers
>>318201303
tha jazer thingamajig obviasly ya eejit
>>318201303
The hand crank duh
>>318201382
laser is a light emitter
it emits out focused and amplified beams of light.
it doesnt move or have any moving parts when doing so
neither does powering it with the energy it requires
>>318201303
When the primer sets of the gunpower to shoot the light out, what are you dumb?
>>318171829
>we're moving right now
>>318169985
Einstein went insane spent the last years of his life shitting in his own hand, smearing it on the walls and using it as ink in an attempt to contradict special relativity because he changed his mind and thought it was bullshit.
>>318202038
Well of course I'm moving. Kind of. My dick. With my hand. While readong your cute little post, anon.
>>318202038
>we're on an enormous space rock flying at incredible hihg speed through infinity of space right now
>>318169502
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>>318169084
>>318170348
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>>318171614
Niggers can't even relativistic mass.
>immortal dog
just mod it
>>318172729
I'm studying physics and trust me, everything modern is a math hellhole.
The last easy thing I did was turn the Time Dependent Schrodinger Equation into the Time independent schrodinger equation
>>318190134
Wait for the modding tools to come out, then all the good mods will roll in.
>>318173207
Most people are right-handed anon. Guns are made with this in mind, though ambidextrous and right-to-left-handed modularity is becoming more common as offhand shooting becomes more fashionable.
However, for a bolt-action rifle, shooting offhand (relative to the bolt's placement at least) is a straight-up impediment to effective shooting. And there's no reason EVERY bolt-action in the greater PAHK THE CAH IN HAHVAHD YAHD metropolitan area and beyond would be a lefty design.
>>318174056
Yes and no. They're both equal and opposite reactions. However, recoil is generally sudden and short, while shootan a flamethrower is a constant opposite force.
Think rocket jumping vs jetpacks.
>>318174369
IR radiation is heat, nigga. UV may have better penetration, but that doesn't mean shit if no meaningful trauma is inflicted upon the target.
>>318192345
>Take grenade
>Slather in olive oil because Vatican City is in Italy
>Put grenade in microwave
>Nuke it for 12 (Number of Jesus' homies+Jesus-Judas) seconds
>Have a Holy Hand Grenade
Checkmate, commie ghouls.
>>318169084
Stand in front of X-ray for a week and see how that zero mass will affect you dumbass
>>318177226
...dinosaurs did live with people. the fuck you think an alligator is?
>>318177521
they didnt in vietnam either, they just welded shit on the floor, wearing flip flops and doing that squat thing. no glasses or anything. you could see the arc flashes from down the street. in the middle of the day.
>>318176347
>who does or dosent make it to presidency is based on something as simple as making it on a tv show and smiling
people defend this system
>he uses lasers
>he doesn't use plasma
shitters lmao
>>318190134
You're not gonna see anything on that level until the GECK comes out.
>>318210590
whats with all this shit about how nothings fucking possible till this geck thing comes out? its the same fucking engine. shit nigga, the morrowind mod tools recognize fallout 4 files, because nothings fucking changed except slapping more graphical shit over the top.
the engines core is gamebyro. we know how to mod gamebyro.
>>318211428
Because without the GECK, you don't have tools to insert entirely new assets, models, and such. You can only modify currently existing assets, and models.
>>318211717
oh right, i forgot we couldnt do that to fallout 3 or new vegas either till the geck came ou-wait a second
>>318180360
>wanting to shit blood in a video game
At best it could remove natural regeneration but more games which include radiation don't have a system like that
>fatman
anyone else seriously triggered by this name, its not my fault i was born with the fat gene.
boycot when?
>>318180360
I agree, it'd be fun inevitably dying from total organ failure after an in-game week or so.
>>318210452
>he uses anything but ballistics
get a load of this fucking nerd.
go play starwars, fag.
>>318214379
Fuck you I know this is bait but it refers to the name of nuke detonated over Nagasaki
>>318214379
theres also a littleboy, but it dosent trigger me
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>>318169084
Everyone who has replied to you is a fucking retard because you are correct that photons have momentum. And no momentum is only defined by its mass and velocity in classical mechanics. Momentum on the quantum scale is a fundamental property that is conserved similar to energy.
Here is a simple experiment to show this phenomena
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwBT4NqYmms
In it there is a vacuum, inside is a fan with black and white sides. The photons that bounce off the white sound impart momentum (greater than the black side which absorbs the photon) which causing it to spin.
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