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Should Obsidian make another west coast fallout
They should do the midwest instead
New Vegas was shit, so why would I trust them to make another one?
>hurr bethdrone
I think 3 and 4 are shit too, but I'm no hypocrite and I will also call out Obsidian on their shit games.
>>318106786
They should make Fallout Oregon
>>318106786
Yes, but where? Seattle? Vancouver? LA if they're feeling spunky?I wouldn't mind Nawleans, but I would prefer to keep both devs on their own sides of the country.
One of you autists sell me on this shit. I hated Fallout 3 in part because the gunplay was awful and in part because the story was appalling, then everybody came out smoking NV's cock and I didn't want to get disappointed again. Now that it costs jack shit, though, what exactly am I missing? Is the actual gameplay any better and the game less fucking ugly, or is it the same shit carried by a decent story?
>>318106954
I'd love to see them do something in California like post Fallout 2
they should just make one in the boneyard
Considering the shitty job they did on NV, no thanks.
Also, Las Vegas isn't on the coast, shit-for-brains.
>>318107147
>California
>>318107286
Thank you I forgot it had to be exactly on the coast
>>318106786
Obisidian should but let us fully explore our options.
>hawaii
>alaska
>Florida
All great candidates and great settings.
>>318107128
>Is the actual gameplay any better and the game less fucking ugly
no
>or is it the same shit carried by a decent story?
>decent story
lol
>>318107286
Kill yourself based retardbro
should they? yeah
will they? nope
Fallout is dead
>>318107124
Seattle would be really coolI think ATL or NO would be fun places to look at, maybe Nashvill too
>>318106786
>Should Obsidian make another west coast fallout
Yes
It'd be cool if they made the central theme based around mercantile this time around. It'd need a pretty big game area and for the world to have an economy mechanic or whatever its called. But I think it'd be neat.
You don't necessarily have to become a merchant, you can become a bandit/raider, caravan guard, caravan master, or even own a whole caravan company. It'd be nice.
The plot could start with you investigating or stumbling upon a caravan being raided. Maybe the cargo is something precious/dangerous or maybe the raiders or the caravan people just happened to be the Big Influential Group in the wasteland or something.
>>318107503
>Fallout is dead
Isnt 4 doing really well?
>>318106786
They want to do zombie apocalypse Los Angeles
So, maybe?
>>318106786
does Hawaii count?
>>318107613
4 is Fallout in name only.
I would like mountains
>>318107615
>zombies
Why? Havent we had enough by now?
>>318107128
Gunplay feels much better. FO4 doesn't seem to have that weird ass delay when firing automatic weapons that 3 had. The modding system is pretty nifty and ensures that most if not all weapons have some use for most of the game.
Obsidian should make KOTOR 3.
New Vegas had more personality and memorable characters than Fallout 4 and I feel like if Obsidian did that on a level like Fallout 4 it would be an enjoyable game
>>318107128
Gunplay has been only slightly improved by the addition of iron sights. There are little things here and there that add some spice, like Hardcore mode and the Survival skill. Really the biggest draw of the game is an RPG that actually lets you roleplay, with several different factions to choose from and choices that actually matter.
>>318107725
I think he's asking about New Vegas, not 4
>>318107729
What is this?
So, what was happening around the world when the bombs were dropped in America? Will we ever see a Fallout outside of America?I've only played NV so I don't know anything about the other games that may or may not be set outside America
Fallout New Angeles bump
>>318107878
Joke skit for some comedy show
Please don't run around acting like its real
>>318107128
The mechanics where mostly the same with some slight upgrades such as iron sights on guns. The game's design pushed the player towards roleplaying more both in gameplay style and in dialogue choices. The story was a lot better than Fallout 3 and you had a fair bit of choice as to who ended up helping who at the end of the game. The biggest downside it had was the map design which was well thought out in seperating the factions from each other and creating realistic areas for the different groups but was often pretty bare in terms of exploration and game play outside the main areas.
>>318106954
Did Kansas get hit with any nukes? I'd like to play there, the Metro area would be cool to explore.
>>318106786
>Checking FO4 Nexus to see if anything interesting is out yet despite NOGECK
>Peek at NV nexus to see how it is doing since I haven't played in a few years
>All those amazing mods
Fucking damn it, I've already put thousands of hours into NV and have over 168 mods last time I ran it already. I don't think my game could handle anymore.
>>318107904
Nuclear war was worldwide but the American setting is very core to the series
Its not like AC where you can jump around the world and capture the same feeling
>>318107124
LA wouldn't be interesting unless it was a prequel, I'm sure the NCR have cleaned up the Boneyard.
Fallout new atlantic city
If they want to keep with the gambling theme
>>318108037
Ah okay, that makes sense.Hawaiian Fallout when?
>>318107852
Oh, wrong thread. In that case, guns are a little better but still suffer from some shitty issues, like horrifically unaligned ironsights versus where the actual bullet is supposed to go.
>>318106786
Fallout needs a new setting or something. The first 2 were great because society was just starting out again and you had a real impact on the future of the world.
3, NV, and 4's worlds are all too developed, it's more like post-post-apocalyptic. I'd rather have a series of little trash settlements who barely have any contact with each other outside of trade caravans rather than one or two major metropolitan areas surrounded by raider shacks and lolwacky settlements
>>318107904
>China was being invaded by the US.
>The Middle East was a shithole because of a limited nuclear exchange and the fact they had no oil.
>The Soviet Union just sat there and watched everything.
>Europe was falling apart and on the verge of a major war.
>Africa was doing the same thing they do now, which is nothing.
>Canada was annexed.
The world was basically going to shit.
>>318108168
Fallout:Dallas?
Would canada work since america annexed it?
>>318107923
It's called Boneyard you fucking pleb.
>>318108168
I doubt it exists anymore but it might be fun to see an overgrown jungle containing vicious beasts and crazed traibals growing out from the center and threatening civilization on the edges of the island
>>318108215
Hawaii
you can have ghouls in hawaiian shirts
you can have an elvis cult
you could have another enclave oil rig
you could have shipwrecks that you could explore with boats
though this is probably beyond bethesda's engine's capabilities
>>318108215
Fallout 2 and NV are post-post apocalyptic. Fallout 1 was on the cusp of it.
3 and 4 aren't though. Despite taking place far in the future the games would make more sense and work better if they took place closer to the Great War, around the time of Fallout 1 perhaps.
>>318107519
If they did a Nashville one that had the rootin tootin cowboy thing of new Vegas that would be awesome
>>318108303
Maybe just AlaskaPatrolling the nuclear winter makes me wish for the Mojave
>>318107904
I'd recommend looking at the various Fallout wikis for world information. Basically, Europe went to shit after a war with the Middle East over oil, USSR still around but seems to be less powerful/prominent. US annexed Canada and militarily occupied Mexico.
>>318108227
>it's 2015
>>318108383
>you can have an elvis cult
Fallout NV already did.
>MORE ENCLAVE THEY'RE BACK! AGAIN!
Fuck no. It was bad enough when Fallout 3 did it. Fucking stupid.
>>318108009
>one mod adds in game clouds
man this shit has come a long way
>>318108215
>Fallout 1 and 2
>not post post apocalyptic
>>318107613
Which is why Fallout is dead.
>>318108037
One of the devs wants to do a Resource Wars game, which is Europe
>>318107938
Well of course its not real if George Lucas got in a slap fight with someone it'd sadly be national news.
If it's going to be anything like 4 then no.
>>318108383
>you can have an elvis cult
We already had one, what about that big Hawaiian guy, Israel?
>>318108438
Cowboys would be cool, along with some sciency remnants form the nashville tech centers, and some toughs form the industrial areas
>>318106786
Takes place in Legion territory decades after New Vegas. The Legion have disbanded and there was chaos over the entire region.
Some went to uphold Caesar's laws and brutal punishments.
Some went to follow Lanius' ways and rule by might and cull the weak.
Some went to reform their old tribes and want nothing to do with the Legion anymore.
There have been rumors traveling around about a hidden untouched Vault that may hold the key to mankind's salvation.
Many prospectors and adventurers have died trying to find it and unlock its secrets.
Those who did return settled down and built small towns along with other Legion deserters. Over time trade routes were established that connected them.
You were born from one of these towns. It is up to you to pick your backstory on why you left town and headed out in search of the Vault.
You will meet other prospectors, ghouls, raider gangs, tribals, and even the Brotherhood of Steel along the way.
>>318108614
Like a macro tactics?
Might be cool, but it'd be a big departureIs it an obsidian dev or a Beth dev?
>>318108523
well you'd make them different obviously
>>318108707
this is too much like borderlands
>>318108750
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_Resource_Wars
Sawyer himself
>>318108570
Eh, I was more going over the Files of the Month. Sure there is a lot of shit but some of it looks like it would be at least worth a try.
>>318108470
Oh shit.
>>318108812
Alright, could be cool then
Does anyone know why Deacon just dies right after I defend a settlement with him in it?
He dies every time I reload and defend the settlement.
>>318108464
>>318108227
I've got Fallout 1 and 2 as well, I just haven't got around to playing them yet. I expect those are where all of this info comes from.
Wouldnt it be more interesting to have a cyberpunk setting where society is nearly developed and you need to "turn the power back on" for america?
Fallout Gulf Coast when? We can see what Texas is like for the first time in the Fallout universe (never been done before shut the fuck up). Alamo, Houston, fucking 6 Flags for all I care. Then off to Louisiana, New Orleans and some 1812 themed shit, swamps, motherfucking swamps. Radgators bigger than deathclaws. Then maybe some racist KKK esque faction from Mississippi. And finally off to Florida, fucking Florida. Florida Man, Miami, ghouled out Cubans, fucking a dlc trip to Cuba for all I care. And then Dindey Worl. Capping supermutants while riding "It's a small world".
>>318108458
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Operation:_Anchorage_%28add-on%29
>>318108916
>radgators
please no
>>318108896
Most if not all of it, yes. Some stuff may have been in the Fallout Bible though, although I'm not certain.
>>318108778
never played it
>>318108707
>game set in Arizona after the Legion collapses featuring tribal conflicts and residual Legion ideologies
This is literally the Fallout game I have wanted since NV released
>>318106786
What the fuck do you mean "another?"
>>318106786
West coast is pretty much done unless for a game taking place during NCR's expansion (albeit, FO2 is just before this) and maybe during NCR-BoS war. But the area is lacking factions and areas of interest.
Florida or Michigan would be great, but Bethesda has such a fucking hardon for New England that they'll never fucking do it
>>318109115
>what is New Vegas
>>318108916
>Florida
Holy shit it would be so fucked up.
>>318109225
>Nevada
>coast
Good question. What is New Vegas? Because it's certainly not a west coast game.
>>318109147
>Michigan
>Not Chicago
>>318108975
Yes! Imagine waking up out of a vault or, how ever they decide to introduce the MC, since the south is close to the water table I imagine vaults are scarce in the flood plains. You see a super mutant behemoth being taken down by 4 of these mutated gators.
I'd definitely play a fallout in Texas just because not much lore would hold them back from creating their own factions and history for the region
Fallout should just be allowed to die a dignified death. There aren't any stories left to tell, unless you want to start veering into post-post-post-apocalyptic territory where society is actually thriving and okay again. And what would the point of that be?
>>318109310
A city doesnt have to be directly on the coast for it to be considered a East/West coast city
>>318108827
yea a lot of them could have potential. i remember XRE Cars mod was pretty cool but last time i tried it the cars still felt like shit.
>>318109232
It would be like Point Lookout on bath salts.
>>318109324
Fuck Chicago, overrated as fuck. It can be DLC or something
>>318109310
American Southwest.
>>318108910
At first i thought that would be restricted but you can have a ton of ways to run america, and different ways to fuck it up as well
Get a few old factions in and then make up a bunch of new ones that want to make or break america, even some other countries that want to influence it
>>318108707
I'm kind of tired of the "4 sides pick 1" Fallouts that NV and FO4 are. The first two fallouts had a bunch of different settlements and towns you could help and decide the outcome of, especially FO2, but it wasn't the main quest of the game itself. Both Fallout 1, 2 and Van Buren had BBEG's or organizations, such as the Enclave, The Master or Presper.
The faction stuff is fun too, especially in New Vegas since they seemed more integrated into the world, but it all just amounts to dudes and they're doing stuff. Fallout 1 and 2 still had dudes doing stuff, but they managed to have a main threat to them as well.
No, it's too far from the series roots now. Fallout started as scrounging and surviving, fighting raiders and geckos for the bear necessities, the simple bear necessities. Forget about your worries and your strife. Old mother natures recipes.
>>318109403
No, but it has to be in a fucking state on the coast. Or at the very least, less than four hours away from the coast.
>>318108778
The only thing like Borderlands in his description is the Vault having some incredible plot device in it. It's also the only part of his idea that's bad.
>>318109415
>Chicago
>Overrated
BRATS
DITKA
JORDAN
>>318108086
>>318108361
Maybe it is called the 'Boneyard' because most of the tall building remains have been stripped by scavengers, leaving only the skeletal remains of the support structure.
>>318108707
> McGuffin vault and raider world
Pls no more
>>318109324
>Chicago
>Wanting another BoS vs. Enclave game
>>318109407
Well, there isn't much one can do with Gamebyro. The Cars in that one are just objects placed in the game that are propelled by invisible explosions.
>>318109339
Alamo (Free Texas faction)
Texas BoS
KKK because why not
Mexicans
Oh man that would be awesome.
>>318109503
Nobody gives a shit about Chicago, its like Detroit but with more unwarranted self importance
Also a Michigan game shouldnt have Detroit either, it should be in the Upper LP and UP so we can have the bridge and islands
>>318109403
Are you seriously implying Las Vegas is considered a "West Coast city?"
>>318108523
F3 introduced the Elvis hair style. The Tunnel Snakes had it.
Also, Butch should have been the barber for The Kings.
>>318109457
i agree with you. there should be a designated bad guy faction that you can't team up with no matter what.
>>318109673
I feel its more West coast than midwest
Fallout: Ohio
Objective: Escape Ohio
>>318109707
DESIGNATED
>>318109539
The Texas Rangers would be a sweet faction.
They could be kind of like the Kings in that they kind of miss the point due to getting all of their info from old movies and stuff far removed from their context.
So they worship John Wayne, Gene Autry, Marty Robbins, etc. I'd side with them every time.
>>318109512
But that is why it is called the Boneyard. The Girder Skeletons of Skyscrappers and buildings fill the city into the horizon.
That is how it was in FO1. By 2 and especially NV it was mostly fixed up as an actual city.
>>318109805
we're not in India are we?SHITTING
>>318109795
>Head north for the promised land of Michigan
>Run into massive wall
>>318108975
Tactics 2 was gonna have them. A shame since I wanna see someone take a crack at Florida. I would prefer Obsidian to do Chicago first though.
>>318109795
Well there's your
Free Corn faction, Anti Corn faction, Corn eaters faction, Corn farmers faction, etc.
>>318109756
I feel it's equally fucking neither.
>>318109835
It was called the boneyard because it was knee deep in skulls, retard
>>318109830
That would be awesome.
>>318109852
Bitch we might beSTREETS
>>318109928
Mid West literally translates to Trapped By Desert
>>318109940
>The city of Los Angeles must have been the largest in the world before the War. The L.A. Boneyard stretched forever, the skeletons of buildings lying under the hot sun. Not even the wind entered this dead city.
It was referring to the ruins of the buildings just as much as the piles of corpses there in the chaos after the Great War.
>>318110038
I don't know what bizarro language you've just invented, but I'd love to see that translation.
I would literally sacrifice one of my testicles for a new obsidian Fallout with 4's engine.
No more voiced protag
Skills are back
More dialougue options
More choices
More endings
My dick gets hard just thinking about it.It's a damn shame it will never happen ;___;
They should do Fallout: St. Louis. It's the gateway to the west.
>>318106786
Hell yeah they should. Bethesda has cranked out their goddamned spinoff sequel and branded it "4", so now that we've had all the awards, normie pandering and general pageantry, I'd like another Fallout game, please.
>>318109795
>Fallout Chiraq
>First Objective - Create a post-futuristic trap anthem
>>318108916
>And finally off to Florida, fucking Florida. Florida Man, Miami, ghouled out Cubans, fucking a dlc trip to Cuba for all I care. And then Dindey Worl. Capping supermutants while riding "It's a small world".
Don't forget Cape Canaveral and the Everglades
>>318109707
Hey, they can let you join them if you want but it shouldn't lead to more than a Nonstandard game over. Similar to what happens when you side with/give in to the Mutants in Fallout 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfyqlMBeQFU
Elijah from Dead Money was like that for instance.
>>318109795
It's flatter than it seems.
>>318109232
Keep spending most our lives living in the raider's paradise.
>>318107124
Fallout in a snowy weathery Silent Hill-like Seattle with a NV-level of pre-war guns + 4's customization (and stuff like the junk-jet/cannon/railroad-gun/etc. maintained this time), the better dialogue options back and a role you actually choose would be the best idea yet. Maybe finally introduce the ability to mutate yourself into another race as well.
>>318110664
Does Ohio really look like that?
>>318110260
Mutated Everglades critters. Sign me up for that!
>>318107124
San Francisco
>>318110838
You can already go there in Fallout 2.
What about New York?Is there a reason why no one recommends it?Im not really in the know with the lore
>>318110192
This.
NV = Canon
3&4 = Non canon
Maybe a return to New Reno/NCR dealing with turbulent times in their history with the legion utterly destroying NCR forces and conquering New Vegas and now Caesar turns to destroy his ideological opponent with an invasion. You can choose to aid Caesar's Legion into NCR or side with the NCR to take the initiative, perhaps join local, struggling powers but has a sharp future ahead of him with an new absolute elder could mean these said struggling powers can find a way back to glory, maybe represent the interest of Vault City or New Reno, willing to work with the Brotherhood.
I dunno, I just want to see some of the west coast again, maybe add some new areas as well to add more to the lore.
That or New Orleans.
>>318110907
New York is a massive glowing crater
>>318110735
It does if you've a fetish for Ohio.
>>318110260
>>318108916
I like it.
>escape Cuba DLC on raft made of trash
>Survival too low
>die on trip back, load save
>kill Gator
>wear its skin and head
>lurk in the water and ambush bitches
>airboats
>AIRBOATS
>giant mosquitos carrying people off
>they get snapped up by the gators sometimes
>blood everywhere
>batshit insane locals
>all about that drug trade with Cuba
>Dexter references
>prehistorically huge mega-gators
>absurdly fucking huge
>fuck Super Mutants, this game's main enemy is the hyper Gator apex predator
>one of the first encounters is a migrating pack of Deathclaws that would be a hopeless fight
>wander too close to the water's edge
>They all get dragged down and death-rolled by gators out of fucking nowhere
>anacondas too
>cannibal Floridian weirdos hopped up on drugs
>airboat chases
>Gators out of nowhere
>>318110910
NV references FO3 canon though via ED-E.
You all don't understand the legion.
>>318111010
>hovering over reply-number puts other post's Ohio (in sentence) exactly onto your Ohio
Woah.
>>318111097
Todd forced them to do that at gunpoint
>>318110979
DC was meant to be a glowing crater and we all know how that turned out
>>318110910
It's sad that the actual continuations of the series have to ride on the back of goddamned spinoff bullshit. It makes me sick that little manlet Todd and his Zenimax masters call the shots as to whether or not Fallout fans get another worth-a-damn RPG or not.
>>318108606
>a fallout game is doing great and everyone is playing it
>this means the fallout series is dead
Lel okay.
Battlefront is fucking dead.
>>318111176
true, but this is Obsidian we're talking about
>>318111196
Well morrowind also had god-tier lore and setting and now we have skyrim with horned helmets and muh vikings. They ruin even their own series.
>>318111071
A fresh start to a new frontier, no more hordes of super mutants and the same old same old. A new fallout that doesn't have to be connected or have to reference the others, new lore.
>>318111381
Dumb dudebros are the biggest demographic, they got to dumb it down for them.
Games becoming mainstream killed deep games.
>>318110262
That ending is fucking great. We should get a sequel to that.
>>318111149
Nations do not work like theoretical Hegelian synthesis.
Theres no historical precedent for it. Antagonistic cultures can diffuse peacefully over centuries but smashing them together only creates social strife. The NCR post-Legion invasion would look more like post-Soviet collapse Yugoslavia than anywhere you would want to live.
Caesar is well educated by Wasteland standards but hes still an arrogant retard.
So what are the actual chances that we'll get another Obsidian Fallout?
All I could think about when playing 4 was that this game would be fucking excellent if obsidian made it.
They wouldn't dumb down RPG elements, and they sure as shit wouldn't have a voiced protag.
>>318106786
Oh my god, YES. Why has nobody ever brought this up? That would be a fantastic idea! :^)
>>318107128
Better Gunplay than 3, but not as good as 4. Melee is tons of fun once you learn the different moves though. Story is good and Roleplaying is carried on through the use of skill checks in speech checks.
>>318111381
I know, I used to like TES too. I even love Oblivion for all its faults. But then Skyrim sold like The Bible 2, so that's their formula now.
>>318111596
Actually, whore studios and publishers did that. Movies are a massive international industry, but good movies still get made. They usually aren't as huge as fluff, but directors and actors still want to make something GOOD sometimes, or at least something honest, so they do, and also make big money making tripe. Game studios could do the same shit, but they don't because it's a bunch of pushover geeks being whipped to slave over shovelware by corporate masters who call all the shots. Film directors may be spergs, but at least they're known for their tempers and calling the shots to the point of abuse instead of always just rolling over.
There's plenty of room for both AAA casual garbage and great games. It's just that once these faggots taste that paycheck, they don't care about what they do anymore.
>>318111429
Actually it could reference both the West Coast and Bethesda's le wacky East coast in some neat ways. I would guess that Florida/Cuba have some economy going in some way that would make it lucrative for the NCR to make maritime contact with them at least. NCR Navy would be cool as shit.
>>318111875
Close to none. Beth probably wrote NV off as a failure and a one time thing, and are protecting "their brand" from any more contamination. Notice how they left out pretty much everything from New Vegas in Fallout 4. They want everyone to forget about it.
>>318111149
The legion fell to a time crunch at Obsidian. Could they have been more fleshed out and have a story like that? Sure, but they didn't. In the end they were dudes in football pads charging a full sized army with automatic weaponry because they think people shouldnt be able to use toasters. Like the bastard child between the BoS and a retarded lemming. And someone hit that kid over the head with a history textbook with all the pages burnt except the chapter about the Roman empire. And the good parts of the Roman empire.
So I never played fallout 1 or 2.
Who dropped the bombs on Murrica? Who was the war between and why
>>318112301
China
>>318112116
>Close to none. Beth probably wrote NV off as a failure and a one time thing, and are protecting "their brand" from any more contamination. Notice how they left out pretty much everything from New Vegas in Fallout 4. They want everyone to forget about it.
Obsidian did say they wanted to make a new one if they got the chance though.
>>318112301
China was the instigator and they bombed the US. The US and its allies (pretty much fucking every other country [even Russia]) turned china into a crater that is now a giant irradiated sea.
>>318112419
I hope to God they do. And here's hoping they actually finish a game for once on top of that, although that's asking too much...
>>318112301
China found out about the FEV, then good old Stars and Bars locked down all further information so the commies couldn't find anything else out.
>>318111381
I haven't been on top of TES lore lately, but was there anything in Skyrim that exactly contradicted previous descriptions or whatnot?
I already know what happened with Oblivion's jungle-to-woodland dilema, before you mention it.
So I am going for an unarmed 1 int/10 str canibal.
Is the legion the best faction for me?
Who is best companion in that situation then?
>>318112572
Can't remember really.
Skyrim just had a weak ass story, and brought nearly no interresting lore to the table.
>>318112356
>>318112568
>>318112448
We really need to get rid of China. Their small dicks will destroy us all..
>>318112657
Go Legion or wildcard.
>>318106873
>>318106786
Hello reddit
>>318113024
Fuck off.
>>318113118
>>>/reddit/
Definitely
Just get the fuck out of the California area and do something newer like the oft-suggested Seattle
>>318107992
What metro area? Wichita is not a big city and it's the biggest in Kansas.
We're also very low on the target list.
>>318106786
>Fallout without Avellone
Nope
>>318113172
>Not wanting a western setting with cowboys, revolvers and country western music
>>318112572
It's not so much contradictory, although some people did complain about the sudden importance of dragons, it's just that they're playing it disgustingly safe with the same shitty medieval Europe setting again. All the books and Daedric shit is just copypasted from the last four games. Didn't let the player do anything with the Thalmor.
6 needs something exciting.
>>318113302
he's a freelancer now, they could easily get him back
>>318113346
I liked it, and now I want something different. Especially something without the NCR. NV was their chance to touch base with 1/2, let's go somewhere else.
inb4 Fallout 5 or what ever the fuck the next iteration is called is still on the same fucking engine
Is anyone else bored shitless of 4 already?
>perks are boring
>quests are bland apart from 1 or 2 (even those don't last longer than 10 minutes)
>pitiful amount of gun bases
>hardly any good looking clothing
>magic weapon effects
>apart from a handful of characters, dialogue and VA are awful
>divorced from RPG elements
It adds some good stuff, but fun power armour and gunplay aren't enough to carry the game.
>>318113694
It will be. Seeing what the next TES game is on will confirm it
I use to bitch until I realize it being on the same engine = more mods.
I'm content with how FO4 looks
>>318113502
I seriously have no hopes for TES 6.
They might as well make Call of Duty with swords.
>>318113745
If I finish it I'm just going to tgm my way to the end so i can shoot shaun.
The quests are all so fucking BORING.
>>318113745
Started a new playthrough on survival, its intense, but I'm finding it hard to play because I've already been everywhere. (300 times if it's a place that attacks a settlement)
>>318113817
>>318113694
This.
Fallout 4 looks alright, I'd rather have this engine and tons of mods, than another engine with fewer.
wasn't there some kind of leaked email showing they were making a new fallout
or was that fake?
>>318113745
Actually got New Vegas again after all this time, and I'm actually enjoying myself.
4 is just boring, and survival is pathetically easy after level 20. I knew it was not going to be good but I just wanted to enjoy a new game.
I think this is a result of the 90s gen getting too old for games. Bet most of you are older fucks. Even NV wore thin after playing it once and you needed a break. FO4 has it's faults but it's enjoyable for a good while which is better than most games out there.
I agree that it was missing a few more interesting quests and vaults though but lets hope Obsidian gets another crack.
>>318113913
>go kill these raiders/mirelurks/orks
>go find this item
>go place this item here
Literally 90% of quests. It's insane how they went from NV having 2+ ways of finishing each quest, often with non-lethal options, to this.
I'm legitimately playing Skyrim again because at least the world is more interesting than the junk heap that is future boston
>>318113745
I mostly only build my sanctuary base when playing now.
I wish the main story was longer, I didn't expect it to end so abrubtly.
I also wish there were more guns, and not just steampunk WW1 style guns and a tommygun as choices.
I wouldn't call FO4 bad by any stretch, it just lacks a lot of RPG elements, and has a pretty mediocre story.
>>318114232
Dogshit RPG, and awful Fallout game, but it's ok if you go in without expectations.
Not good, just ok.
>>318113302
He only did the DLC for New Vegas, and Lonesome Road was all the worse for his involvement.
>>318112887
Ah, can agree there.
>>318113502
I'd love for VI to finally be set in Akavir and its own crazy potential with samurai chinks, crazy monkeys, tiger-men and other new races going against giant Tsaesci snake-men (all of whom are playable) and annual yeti attacks. But since playing-it-safe pays off big in this industry, we'd be lucky if a game touches even Valenwood/Elsweyr instead of more mountains.
>>318114005
Please jesus let this be true.
Source?
>>318114372
It was fake
>>317824371
It's not that hard to know /v/ has a hardon for NV and the emails appeared on /v/ by some guy typing in caps with a shitty edit
>>318114296
Yeah, I agree.
Fucking Bioshock has more RPG elements than FO4.
>>318114327
Yeah they'll do Akavir and then say half that freaky shit was just embellishment, no snake people, cats are Khajiit with a new fur color
Most I'm hoping for is some Summerset architecture
>>318112572
Somewhat.. The timeline of the Dragon Cult didn't match up with the Falmer war. Alduin was supposed to be the nordic variant of Akatosh. And St.Alessia was supposed to have been the first dragonborn. (I think)
>>318114305
Lonesome road was the best DLC though, tied with Old World Blues.
>>318109876
As a Michiganian..if you aint in the faction The Snow men (nuclear winter forever...because MI) fuck off...ill also accept Mitten Men
>>318107992
It wasn't just nukes that caused the apocalypse. Botched biological warfare and resource shortages. Also the sino-ussa war was not the only nuclear exchange.
Nukes or not the place is still fucked.
>>318114715
It was a combat-filled slog devoid of any good characters or meaningful interactions. The whole thing was dripping with Avellone's distaste for RPG conventions and tacked on an unnecessary, poorly explained backstory for the courier. It did not live up to the hype.
Had some great loot, though.
>>318114951
Anyone have the gama gun picture that does more radiation damage on ghouls?
>>318114715
BULL
BEAR
>>318114951
does it actually spray ice instead of fire or am I expecting too much of this game
fallout florida obviously
It's the closest thing we'll ever get to fallout brazil or fallout vietnam
>>318115018
Environments were great though and ED-E parts were cool. Truly felt like you were walking a hard road with the tunnels and marked men fucking shit up
>>318115158
>fallout florida
>everything is exactly the same, but the old jews noses get bigger, and miami is full of ghouls who all call themselves cuban pete
horrifying tbqh
>Update NMM for FO4
>"This update will bla bla bla, choose this to not lose your mods"
>Choose that
>Still uninstals every mod
>All 100 something incliding TTW
Fucking hell, thanks Nexus
>>318115176
Won't argue with you there. Definitely the most flawed of all the DLC, though, even moreso than Dead Money (which is still my favorite).
>>318114951
Do you have the picture of the fat man with an effect that heals the target rather than hurting them?
>>318115156
You're expectinf too much anon. It's just like borderlands with legendary enemies and super evil 9mm pistol of electricity-weapons.
>>318115382
It was for sure better than dead money.
Why is that your favourite?
Last time I played it, I got so fed up that I noclipped trough the entire ending.
Man, Todd really hates Obsidian
>ignored practically every gameplay addition from NV
>copied Turbo from NV, rename it Jet
>says there's an ancient alien city under the mojave
>NCR blows BoS the fuck out in NV, so east BoS is remade into a military juggernaut more powerful than NCR
>>318115018
>tacked on an unnecessary, poorly explained backstory for the courier.
Its not poorly explained its vague because the only person who brings it up is an insane broken man who you can convince that you've never set foot in the divide and that it was someone else who delivered the chip regardless.
G-Guys..
>>318115607
>Honest Hearts that low
>Lonesome Road that low
This is what happens when you don't bribe journalists.
>>318115018
I feel like I'm the only person who liked Ulysses and the message behind Lonesome Road.
It was a bit disappointing how linear it was after the previous DLCs, but it had a lot of cool shit and felt like a real final challenge.
>tacked on an unnecessary, poorly explained backstory for the courier.
All Ulysses says is that you delivered some packages to the Divide in the past.
>>318115529
Much better characters and story. Actual quest design. Interesting enemies. Gold. The Elijah ending.
How would a California almost falling apart because tunnelers started spreading to the state or a war between factions in idaho and utah during the middle of a winter work?
>>318115607
Why is Old world blues the best ranked?
>>318115770
THE BEAR AND THE BULL
THE BEAR AND THE BULL
THE BEAR AND THE BULL
>>318115607
I remember /v/ calling dead money shit and I put it off actually believing them. Then everyone turns around and says its good what the fuck
I guess the lesson here is try it out instead of listening to you fags
>>318115781
Because while all of them are good, OWB has the least bad elements
Obsidian made F4 dlc? Is it in anyway possible?
>>318115607
Anyone have that webm of graham reloading his pistol
>>318115607
Honesty Time: Still haven't beaten Lonesome Road. Is it that good?
>>318115834
>UGH, running round, touching things with your little PENISES
>>318115607
>Anchorage has a higher score than LR
>Zeta has a higher score than LR and HH
Come the fuck on. I know reviewers have shit taste, but seriously?
Oh, before I forget again. Installed Project Nevada and now every fucking hobo has I say a shitload of dynamite on them and after every battle I have no arms and legs, not to mention that sometimes they oneshot me. Is there a way to tweak the amount of explosives the enemies have?
>>318108523
I wonder if people still hate house if you help the ncr squatters get along with the kings
you can can just kill those ncr fags and house will leave em alone
>>318115547
>so east BoS is remade into a military juggernaut more powerful than NCR
Not really. They stated two of their airships were downed and they are pretty much on the ropes.
>>318115607
i love new vegas but i actually fell asleep during lonesome road, it is boring + ulysses is bad and it deserves that 57
>>318115916
It's alright. People generally say the gameplay is alright, but Ulysses sucks. It's worth finishing, if only for the ending and the rewards.
>>318115821
/v/ either loves or hates DM.
>>318116037
Reviewers are bought and paid for.
>letting obsidishit touch fallout
No thanks it's Bethesda's franchise for a reason.
>>318113142
>anything or anyone I disagree with is from reddit
Oh look, a child
>>318106786
Is this a shit port on PC like 3 was? I just dropped 3 today because in 15 hours of gameplay I probably had 15 crashes and had my entire PC lock up 4 times, 3 of which resulted in having to do a system restore.
If NV isn't any better I think I'll just stop playing these games because 1/2 were great.
Am I the only one who wants to see a segment in an atompunk dwelling city. Maybe a minor but big introduction, where you run around in a predominately small but free roaming region. The actions you choose and decide can either make you start as a ghoul, or descendant vault dweller.
>>318106786
No they should make Fallout Neo-Tokyo.
>>318116638
Weakest bait I've ever seen.
>>318111097
You mean Whitley? He's not in FO3, stupid
>>318116709
Its fine. The only stable way to play Fallout 3 is playing it via Take of Two Wastelands otherwise it'll crash every fifteen minutes.
I would probably be playing it right now but I don't feel like downloading 15 gigs.
>>318107124
texas
>>318116709
You can skip 3 if you want, or play it via TTW.
NV is much better.
>>318116843
>>318116923
Had not heard about this, Ill check it out, thank you anons.
>>318116304
You forgot Vendertron.
>>318116832
He specifically references the Adam's Air Force Base and Hellfire armor.
Why the name calling?
>>318107124
>Vancouver
yeah I'd rather not play a game where all the NPCs are chinks
>>318107457
The story is decent. It's actually a story, not just an objective like "Go find dad. Oh, dad's dead, finish his work"
As long as the setting is in a desert/tropical setting I'm happy.
Bethesda can keep their boring ass temperate settings
>>318117660
Tropical as in SWAMPS??????
>>318117718
Sure why not.
Anything but boring ass northeast
>>318117761
Ive seen enough posts today, we should write Obsidian to do a gulf coast game. Its the final frontier of untapped lore in the Fallout U.S. universe.
>>318112301
Todd Confirmed in Fallout 3 that it was the AYY Lmaos. Literally entry tier fallout lore you pleb. nobody apprciates Todd
>>318117853
I would be fine with this, although I would prefer southwest to southeast, NCR and all that jazz.
But I would be glad should it be in the gulf too.
>>318116107
>Me miss Mom. Mcshoot miss Arr-yo. Me want go home
>>318118049
I want to explore more of the west too, but I also want to see something new.
>>318112921
Well moreso just trying to ruin our economy and GDP into another depression so they can flip the scales, but you get the idea.
>>318115770
>some packages
He says your courier work is single handedly responsible for the Divide ever taking off as a town
That's more than "some"
>>318113302
>Fallout with Tim Cain
YES
Are there any good character customization mods? I want to remake my 4 character
>>318118343
Ulyssys is the source for this and one of your responses is calling him crazy and saying hes making shit up.
>>318107128
Same gameplay with worse story but better dialouge
>>318115354
>using NMM
>using NMM for NV
Does MO work for 4 yet? It's such a godsent program.
>>318118031
No it didn't. Stop meming this falsehood
Mexico and Arizona border.
>Bandito ghouls and highway men.
>Cowboy ranchers herding Brahmins.
>Typical Fallout bandits are now Apachean cannibals.
>Bring back true survival. Food is nowhere, hunting is paramount, and water is crucial to survival and is pretty much your major goal in the game
>Scalping people for bounty collecting.
>>318117218
Vendortron is actually killable with golden gloves, same with Festus, oddly enough.
>>318118684
Well then Yes-Man is killable by Disintegrating him, right?
Or did they fix the bug where enemies that get goo'd or ashed don't respawn?
>>318118684
I wonder if that's related to stamina damage weapons being broken as fuck and not working
>>318107124
>Vancouver
If this happened I'd want the skytrain to be intact, but with trains stuck on the tracks.
They will be full of ghouls referred to as translink ghouls or some shit
>>318118819
You can't get rid of Yes-Man, he always respawns so you can never fuck yourself out of ending the game
>>318118659
Fuck yes.
And more imprtantly, a full on country western soundtrack, with classics, and spaghetti western esque ambient music.
>>318118906
I know that is what intended, but at least in early of the games you could break it by killing him to ash or goo, since that broke the respawning mechanics.
They may have fixed it though.
>>318110596
If you want Fallout in the winter just wait till New Vegas: The Frontier total conversion, set in Seattle, looks really good and its about time we got a wintery Fallout setting.
I can only hope the next Obsidian Fallout will be Pacific Northwest/Seattle city winter as well.
Guys am I late? Who /Fallout: Cuba/ here?
>>318115821
everyone that used unarmed loved dead money and everyone that tried to use pistols or some other shitty gun got fucked relentlessly by the enemies in the dlc
>>318115547
>says there's an ancient alien city under the mojave
You're shitting me.
Pics? Proof?
>>318119739
He says that there's an ancient alien city in the Arabian desert, not the mojave.
It's in one of the questlines, can't remember the name.
>>318107124
Seattle during winter time and with very little factions/mutants/etc. from previous games please.
We need an actual fresh Fallout game that doesn't take place in a wide open brown wasteland and doesn't have things like super mutants or the brotherhood of steel.
>>318118659
Oh fucking god, make this happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFa1-kciCb4
>>318119937
I agree.
Brotherhood and such factions should be minimal like they were in New Vegas.
I wouldn't mind more of NCR and the legion though.
>>318106786
retire fallout already
Fallout Canada (probably Toronto). Canada was annexed by the US so why not?
>>318120197
Its because anything other than USA makes a game shit. You faggots don't how to mock your own culture to even make it anything but serious business or interesting.
The same reason why you don't see GTA games anywhere but USA inspired cities.
Leave yuruscum setting games for medieval games and canadian setting environments for hipster sjw developers.
>>318119190
Holy fuck I didn't know about this existing until now. Thanks anon.
>>318110260
>cult has taken over cape canaveral and plans to launch themselves into space
>>318120197
As long as every dialogue has an APOLOGIZE button
>>318120197
I think it would be nice to see a fallout with a bunch of canadian ground.
Also this as the game's theme https://youtu.be/BmBg8hHYoSI
>>318120487
>The same reason why you don't see GTA games anywhere but USA inspired cities.
GTA: London.
>>318115781
OWB is funny.
>>318120925
Which was the shittiest game in the franchise and hasn't been recreated since.
>>318119880
It's the Jack Cabot one. And I distinctly remember that it was the Mojave desert he mentioned. He said something along the lines of his father always suspected there was one under there. The Arabian one was where his father got the power, and Jack wouldn't have needed to confirm if there was an alien settlement in the Arabian one because his father is the proof.
Good thread.
We managed to have a Fallout discussion without too much shitposting and trolling for once, good job, threads like these aren't exactly common.
I am browsing at odd hours though, since it's 6:30AM here.
>>318109690
How would that have made any sense
>>318112301
There's no fully established reason. The most easily assumed is China instigated it, but a computer in Fallout... 2? Implies an AI simply got bored and set them off.
>>318108168
>We want the FarCry audience
>>318106786
No fuck USA off. Make a Fallout in a different country for once. Australia.
>>318121363
>Australia
Absolutely nothing would be different
>>318108843
>9gag
>>318120487
YUROPOORS GOT TOLD
>>318121363
>Australia
Were they even remotely affected by the great war?
Theres only so many major cities to bomb, every other rural town wouldn't give two shits and keep on living normally.
>Huh, I wonder what Obsidians even been up to lately
>f2p mmo
>World of Tanks ripoff
Guess they needed the money.
>>318107124
>Fallout seattle
>somehow the space needle is still standing
>>318121438
>not doing behemoth sized kaiju style outback mutant critters vs souped up hooned out powerarmor
>>318121658
they might be working the sequel to vampire the masquerade since paradox bought the IP
>>318121449
>Implying
Australia mocks itself better than anyone. And mocks everyone else. Anytime an American celebrity comes here they go back home with a sore bum and tweet how their feelings got hurt down here.
>>318118659
>Apachean cannibals
Sadly this would be called out as so problematic that the game would never release with it intact
>>318107678
Clearly you don't remember how bad 3 was. The entire behemoth segment where you watch/help the brotherhood with a super mutant behemoth was awful. It has absurdly inflated health so even going into it for the first time with an extremely strong weapon it's shit.
>>318121363
>Make a game in a USA city
>Make fun of their fatness, their overly capitalistic society, make fun of terrorist attacks and shine a light on the disparity of the rich and poor.
>Murricans laugh it off and still enjoy the game no matter what.
>Europeans and Aussies use this to mock Americans.
>Make a game centered around Australia
>Make mutated shrimps and cook them on a barbecue
>Overgrown glowing kangaroos
>Stereotypical Aussie speak about cooking shrimp on the barbi.
>You'll never hear the end of angry shitskin Aussies complaining about racism with your "I bet this is wut all murricans think about australia, they bet we all travel to work in kangaroos" when it's clearly satire.
This is why you faglord. Sorry Ausfag, but you're never going to get a game set in your shithole until you guys learn to get a sense of humor.
>>318122372
see
>>318121965
Americans are the worst at being made fun of. Your celebrities that come here literally start big 'shame Australia' campaigns on twitter every time they come here. Americans can't handle the bantz.
So many 12 year old fanboys who can't argue that Fallout 4 is a piece of shit rushed game. They can't argue against it so all they can do is sling insults like little monkeys. Come on, insult me, do your best, that's only thing you can do. This game is designed to cash in on the bandwagoning idiots because they lost so much money on Elder Scrolls Online. It's degrading in quality because you are cocksucking them. Do not be the cancer of vidya. Do not be cocksuckers.
So disappointing, after all the hype I felt when I learned in Fallout 3 about "people in Massachusetts" doing something. It's got to be MIT! And what do people in MIT excel at? Technology. It was a foreshadowing of a future sequel to the Fallout series. What do we get? Wannabe cowadooty with some minecraft thrown in christ.
Next they will rush is Elder Scrolls: Hammerfell mark my words. Printscreen this if you wish.
>>318122670
Someone needs their diaper changed.
>>318107113
Oh, you mean Fallout.
And Fallout II.
>>318115332
>everything is exactly the same
ebin meme
now fuck off back to reddit
>>318107415
>Hawaii
I'm...intrigued now. Current gen could just about handle one of the islands as a whole, in real space, in a pretty good level of detail.
Some time last week, an anon suggested New York. It's supposed to be somewhat submerged, the idea was a game played on the parts of buildings still above water, with rope bridges forming a network building to building, using boats to get to places segregated from the core of "civilization." That idea kind of gave me a boner.
>>318118659
>New Vegas- Vegas + More wild west.
I could go with this.
>>318121658
Last I heard they had a day circled on their calendar during the PoE campaign for when they would declare bankruptcy if the funding wasn't successful. I'm sure they're not in danger of that anymore right now but they're probably not well off.
Hopefully like the other anon said they're going to make a new VtM game.
Yes.
>F4 is hyped to fuck that its in Boston
>get in game
>cant even tell other than some of the city names
>no snowy areas
>no red sox stuff at all
>fenway isnt called fenway
>nobody has a boston accent
Fucking who cares where obsidian puts it at least you will know where it fucking is.
How about Fallout Alaska?
>>318118521
>worse story
>Worse than Liam "Your Retarded Father" Neeson's narcissistic quest to become Christ Of The Wasteland by wasting a GECK to purify water (that shouldn't fucking BE irradiated anyways) that other, jankier water purifiers clearly do a good enough job of doing, by releasing a retardedly high amount of radiation into the purifier he made and effectively robbing the DC area of a proper settlement created via the GECK
Fuck off.
>play fallout 4
>gunplay is okay, bog-standard, nothing special
>rpg elements are basically nothing
>lots of skyrim-esque time wasting missions
All playing Fallout 4 does is make me want to play the original Fallout games, which I never have. I dont know why. Its just so light on RPG elements.
>>318124530
And the GECK now being a literal "garden bomb" instead of a sophisticated kit that had all the essentials for building and maintaining a farm.
Nope, it can shit out a garden or whatever
>>318106786
yes and hopefully they'l not get fucked by bethesda again
>mfw finding out all that bullshit they had to put up with only to get fucked
They got screwed over by Bethesda pretty badly last time so I don't think it's likely. Even if they made one I'm sure Bethesda would mandate they stick with the voiced protagonist and dialogue wheel shit which would kill any attempt at interesting writing.
What was Cuba doing before the Great War?
>Retards actually want swampy or water covered areas
Yes because water locations and swimming work so well in bethesda games
>>318124818
You probably should play the originals.
They take some time getting used to if you're not familiar with the system like I am, but I'm still having fun.
>>318121736
>climb up half way the space needle
>fighting floor after floor of enemies
>take elevator rest of the way up to the tip of the needle
>discover a skeleton, a hunting rifle and four .308 rounds
Todd almost didn't want to give you the .308 rounds because he was too worried about awarding you too much
>>318107124
Houston
Said it before and I'll say it again.
Seattle. Portland. Denver. Chicago. Least to most likely.
NUCLEAR WINTER FUCKING WHEN?
>>318106786
what is your god damn point
of course
jesus christ try to hide your unwarranted fallout 4 hate a bit more
How about the next game introduces a hunger system so that you don't just abuse stimpak?
Now water and food would become crucial and essential parts of the game.
But the only way for that to work is if it's set earlier in the Fallout post war timeline.
>>318107128
I hated Fallout 3 which is why I didn't touch New Vegas until last month despite buying it on a steam sale years ago.
Turns out it's way better.
>>318126275
look at this casualfag who never played NV
look at him and laugh
>>318109890
radagators, just green deathclaws by the looks of it
>>318126363
Meme harder my nig.
I thought Obsidian doesn't stand another chance at making a new Fallout
>>318115821
It's good when you guy NV and the dlc for less than 5$
It sucks when the each dlc is sold 15$.
Dead Money isn't really interesting, it's a lot of uninteresting fighting in the same place for a while. The only good part are the companions.
>>318126482
I thought Obsidian was on the brink of bankruptcy?
>>318126482
considering new Vegas was a massive success and has sold 12 million copies, i can see Bethesda letting Obsidian make another FO game
>>318109795
If you set it in SW Ohio you could actually have a decent Fallout game though.
>Mixture of forests, suburban areas and cities
>Cincinnati and Dayton for your big cities, one an irreparable shithole and the other an irreparable shithole by a river
>Wright-Patt Air Force Base for the local "military" faction, as well as sidequests revolving around the Rosewell UFO supposedly being stored at Wright-Patt for some time to serve as your aliums easter egg
>Dayton being the birthplace of flight allows you to get planes, rediscovering flight and shit in too.
>Could have a faction of Native Americans, or people imitating them.
Will we ever find out what happened to Canada?
>>318126661
Specially F4 has so bad critics and won't sell like Skyrim for example.
>>318122372
>Land of the Offended
>laughing anything off
kek
>>318126523
Yeah, they fucked up some Aliens game. PoE saved them from bankruptcy. But I'm kind of surprised that one failure was going to send them over the edge, South Park has sold around 2m copies, NV sold 10m+, etc
Should Obsidian make a spiritual successor Alpha Protocol?
>>318126523
>>318126482
>>318126661
It's almost guaranteed. At this moment it's more a question of what Obsidian would want to pursue; a Vampires the Masquerade if they can get Paradox on board with it, or a new Fallout considering New Vegas made a lot of dosh.
>>318126747
It's still more praised than New Vegas. I wouldn't be surprised if it land somewhere around 15-17 million copies sold.
>>318122372
Your country literally forces developers to recreate their characters because their ankle was showing. That's how sensitive you putrid faggots are.
>>318126275
Fallout games are supposed to be RPGs, not building games or survival games à la Don't Starve Together.
I'd rather have them focus on the quests and the choices/freedom offered to the player than these little irrelevant features
>>318127025
But the first Fallout game was all about survival.
>>318126885
It's hard being a middle-size developer without a big company backing you.
Bethesda would probably also always be on the brink of bankruptcy if it wasn't part of Zenimax.
And remember that Obsidians own IP's sells like shit. Point in case the agent game and Pillars of Eternity.
>>318127025
What the fuck do you know about what Fallout is suppose to be?
>>318126256
>unwarranted
Look at this kid
>>318127078
Not even close. Unless you mean the kind of survival in which you never need to eat, drink, can travel for days and have thousands of ammo.
>>318127250
I actually played them. Faggot.
>>318127078
Fallout 2 was the first Fallout no matter what you say, fuccboi.
>>318127365
oh shit, I'm sorry, it's not like the first game was about the survival of your fucking vault you dumb bitch.
>>318126985
>>318122654
Angry cunts learn to keep the emotions in you're making AUs look bad by rageposting
>>318116143
>>318116304
Holy shit
>>318127420
Self hating Australians need to kill themselves. You're what makes the country look bad.
>>318126418
>123 hours
CASUL
I BET YOU HAD A DEX BUILD TOO
>>318127365
>I actually played them. Faggot.
Ya, hardcore Fallout fan here, since Fallout 3. Bet you never even play Brotherhood of Steel.
>>318115547
Bethesda Fallouts aren't canon anyway
>>318127492
More of an intelligence/charisma build.
>>318127406
Yeah and it's also about the survival of yourself because if you die it's game over :^)
You're embarrassing yourself anon.
>>318127573
The fucking main theme of the original Fallout was survival. You're an idiot who's never even played it.
>>318127406
>if it involves survival of NPCs, it's a survival game
Not even how it works
>Fallout Utah
>It's just Utah because God's blessing, but all the mormons want to kick you out
>>318127497
Fuck with your console crap, I'm not gonna argue with a consoletard that Fallout games are supposed to be RPGs
>>318106786
We both know the answer is yes, but I'm sensing without even scrolling down that some asshurt little bethesda faggot who's first game was Fallout 4 has already posted that Obsidian is shit.
>>318127648
You shouldn't even try to talk to people who use meme emotes.
>>318127648
That has nothing to do with what type of game it is, you blearing retard.
>Survival games are a subgenre of action video games that generally start the player with minimal resources in a hostile, open-world environment, and require them to collect resources, craft tools, weapons, and shelter, and survive as long as possible. Many survival games are based on randomly or procedurally-generated persistent environments, with more recent entries often playable online and multiple players on a single persistent world. Survival games are generally open-ended, with no set goals
>>318127648
And you're a mongoloid who can't follow a conversation. The topic discussed was survival as a core gameplay element not as a fucking story excuse for a main quest.
It blows my mind how retarded you are.
>>318127842
>>318127810
It would tie back into the main story as an overreaching theme of the game.
>>318112572
Skyrim was always advertised as a borderline inhospitable place besides areas with civilization in the lore. The game just turned it into a walk in the park with draugrs and the occasional wolf. The lore features all kinds of fucked up being wandering around in the dark, most of them were-creatures, that weren't featured in the game.
Skyrim didn't really break lore other than being confusing with all the dragon shit that happened in the past, as well as Alduin's role, which was kind of fuzzy.
>>318127513
Thinking like this is the best way to keep your sanity.
>>318127930
Okay, nevermind, I can think of one thing I think it ruined, and that was the Tsaesci. I believe Skyrim retconned them as being human men from Akavir instead of snake people, even though there is lore confirming their snake like nature. Skyrim made them out to be men who consumed other beings, not literally, but metaphorically. Sort of like taking over a culture instead of eating people. So they were a collection of people who took over cultures instead of being snake-like. Can someone see if I'm correct, I haven't played in a while but the Dragon Wall mural and a book made it seem this way.
Fallout in Chicago? Anyone?
>>318128115
So set it in 2015?
>>318127810
Oh Christ. You're probably the kind of person who says Devil May Cry isn't hack'n'slash because it's not an isometric dungeon crawler
>>318128115
What's the difference between Boston and Chicago? I'm not a Burgermaster.
>>318106786
>vegas
>coast
wut
>>318127810
The original fallout was about survival retard. IT was about the survival of friends and family and the some of the last remnant of society
There was even a set timelimit.
>>318106786
Yo, so what mods should I install if I want to turn this into Stalker-like radioactive wasteland survival? Is Sawyer's mod any good? It seems like it's geared towards making hardcore mode better, but it touches a billion different things.
>>318128168
How do none American's even play Fallout? You would get half the topics they discuss because you're a fucking commie.
>>318128115
chicago a shit
- indiana
>>318128227
Oh boy the tards are out tonight
>>318128291
I play it because it's my dream to see an America nuked off the face of the planet, and all it's pig shit people dead. This is the closest I can get to it.
>>318128168
More post apocalyptic skyline? Idk i'd figure it be less rural like in all fallouts. It be all city anywhere u go on the map with light residential areas on the outskirts.
>>318127557
Disgusting.
Luck build master race.
>>318128139
How is Fallout 1 a survival game?
If only
>enclave sides with NCR instead of angering them and getting fucked
>NCR and Enclave combine into Mega democracy
>they destroy the BoS
>most of america is now ruled by New Enclave Republic
What was the deal between NCR and Enclave anyways? i remember they fought eachother once and that was it
>>318128379
Ya, you're one of them bitch. You can't even come up with an argument.
>>318128428
>Idk
>u
>namefag
Just fuck off cancer.
>>318128428
>Jup
Oh dear god no, please don't tell me Jupiter is coming back?
>>318128460
Enclave were a bunch of assholes who thought they could take anything they wanted. (They could.)
NCR was trying to create a state in the recovering wasteland.
Then Enclave got Chosen One'd, NCR bloomed, and eventually decided that Navarro was too significant/juicy to leave lying on their flank there and forcibly assimilated it. As the last major Enclave fixture on the West Coast, the Enclave basically ceased to be here.
>>318128505
So I'm not allowed to browse on my phone?k
>>318107675
oh damn that would be awesome
especially if it had an emphasis on weapons/ammo being very rare (since most everything is imported by ship here and ships wouldn't be very operational after the bombs dropped)
would love it if you could travel between the islands as well
>>318128483
How do you even fonction on a day-to-day basis?
I'm amazed you found out how to use a computer.You're posting from a phone aren't you?
>>318128586
You're not allowed to browse at all. Please, leave and never return.
>>318128436
It has survival themes
end of mcfucking story
>>318128586
>owning a phone
GET OUT NORMIE
>>318128606
fucking idiot
>>318128716
I said a survival GAME, anon. Not a survival narrative. Is X-COM a survival game?
>>318109795
Fallout Ohio:
A game about finding Utah
Yes. I'd really like an opportunity to see how the Shi are doing and for a 3D fallout game to attempt the sense of scale traveling along a map imparted.
I want dense, but reasonably sized cities, unbroken expanses of hazy horizon, baked earth, and points of interest hidden in the desert.
Now, this may be a bit off for what should be as settled as the core region, but perhaps...no. We'd have to be in Seattle of seeing what's going on in Baja.
>>318121363
>australia
then they'll come full circle for ripping off mad max
>>318128975
Considering you have to carefully manage resources against mounting odds, yes.
So what kind of DLC are we going to see in FO4?
>>318110072
>you will never see the boneyard littered in corpses after the great war
Would've been neat
>>318129395
Apparently, there's 20 of them
So probably something like 15 DLC weapons, with the other 5 actually being new content like quests
>>318126946
i would cut my dick off and mail it straight to obsidian for another wild ride with mr. thornton
somewhere with a Zoo.
> lots of mutated animals
> Chimera like Lions
> Giant ass Cobras and Vipers
> Tranq gun for animal capture missions and non lethal stealth attacks
>>318128168
Chicago was drawn with a compass, square, and multiple revisions
Boston was drawn by a drunk fuck with a box of crayons
Chicago is pure steel and pop density in a perfect grid system all younger than 100 years old and Boston is like our version of a medieval historical village that grew into a real city with a bunch of shitty relics
>>318129395
If I were a gambling man, I'd bet at least one DLC will have something to do with aliens, and another will have you go to a new city. I doubt they will go the path of FO3 and basically unfuck the bad ending.
>>318113262
You know what he's talking about you dip. Cransus City, MO
Fallout; Cascadia. Hockey themed raiders. Wongs as the dominant clan.
>>318128291
wew lad, it's not like American history is long and complicated.
>>318130204
What the fuck. The ending was glorious.
> Purging railroaders
> Drilling into the Institute
> Purge everything
> "Son" asks to join
> "No"
>>318130204
You underestimate Bethesda and Toddy.
>All endings are "expanded"
>Institute has Broken Steel level shit where ANOTHER railroad exists, you can redeem yourself and join it and destroy the Institute, or kill another bunch of robot humpers
>Synth Shaun becomes permanent companion
i hope the do cities right in the next one
they were sprawling mega-cities pre-war, but 3 makes them look like shit
4 went in the right direction but they're still small and empty as fuck
>>318127167
Obsidian's only good games are South Park and NV. I've always felt like Obsidian is great at building off of existing stuff, but fails at originality.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, sometimes the best thing for a franchise is a different/original look at it.
>>318131212
>small and empty as fuck
After discovering most of the locations in Boston, I couldn't select any damn one of them on the map screen. There needs to be bigger cities with less interior areas and more exterior areas, and a more hub based way of fast traveling (that isn't shit like Fallout 3's subways).
If JSawyer's doing it, it'll be midwest or Denver, and it'll be about railroads.
The real thing. Choo-choo, traintracks. Infrastructure. Like they were toying with for Van Buren.
>>318131596
>the concept art for Van Beauran
And we will never be able to play the unfinished prototype for it.
;___;
>>318132162
But we did. It even still had bugs!
It'd be nice to have more pre-war stuff
like Operation Anchorage, but not fucking terrible
>>318128352
>implying the corn fields with meth using farmers is any better
>>318130098
Grid based cities make for shitty exploration.
>>318132331
Legitimate question:
Is there a mod for this shit on NV?
>>318132507
the entire thing would be exploded to hell
a vertical city doesn't stay vertical in the event of an apocalypse, just look at what they did to DC and it's not even a close comparison
the subway system would probably play a much bigger role as well, but I expect they'd only focus on the north side of the city (Wrigley especially) and branch out into the suburban metro a little bit
>>318132720
>south side can have packs of feral ghouls and raider gangs
>>318132693
None that I've seen.
Have to wonder why Toddy didn't include vehicles
Honestly I'd like to see New York
>New York, New York by Frank Sinatra
>Grand Central Station
>Empire State building/Twin Towers
>Hudson River
>Parts of New Jersey
>>318122654
>>318126818
>>318126985
Fuck what that guy said about you guys not having a sense of humor. If you ask me, I think the reason why Australia is a bad idea, including European countries, is because there is absolutely nothing fucking interesting about you faggots, your country and your culture. What would Fallout Australia be even about? America has so many cultures and areas surrounding the nation you can pin point one area on the map and you get a whole different culture and environment. America has also many different ranging geographics. New Orleans and their Zydeko and French influence, Texas and their gunslinger cowboy culture and country music, Georgia and their jazz and redneck culture, mid east and their bluegrass and mountaineer hillbilly culture, northwest and their patriotic fervor of the original colonies and preppy lifestyle, California and their layback surfer lifestyle, Chicago and their gangsteresque background.
You guys spend almost all of your energy making fun of America, its just so easy to make something out of them and get humor out of it. This would be completely different if it was set in Europe and Australia. Like that guy said >>318120487 GTA is almost entirely based on USA because there are so many interesting stereotypes about America. I don't see any of you guys making any sort of fun about your country. Euros even get offended when Murricans call your continent the new Islamabad.
Also, Fallout centers around Atompunk and the rockabilly culture, which is predominately an American thing. It also has a very cold war feel to it, that shit would not fucking work with Ausfags or Europe.
Just stick to what you faggots good at and stop trying to ruin something that is good. Europeans should stay with their Medieval and Napoleonic age. You Aussies should stick with your hunting and fishing games. You guys should nowhere venture into modern age shit because it's just going to plain suck dick.
>>318132931
The Engine that it is in is shit. The only car mods that I know of are basically objects propelled by explosion or being pushed by an invisible force, rather than actual locomotion.
>>318132947
The thing is, New York City is literally a crator. It got hit the hardest.
>>318106786
>mojave desert
>west coast
is this a new meme
>>318132947
Metro Tunnels and Blocked Off Streets 2.0
>>318132947
NYC got blown to hell m8
>>318133120
They could have easily done a vehicule, even in that shitty engine, but what would be the point anyways? There's hardly any road and everything is covered in debris. It would be very impractical.
At best you could use a motocross but the fps would probably be awful on console if you'd have to render everything faster...
Lots of problems for a feature that wouldn't really add anything.
>>318132947
Somehow I see this as kinda hard to implement.
Like, veryone, and their mothers would expect it to be almost intact yet still fucked up or some other paradoxical shit you couldn't avoid.
GTA IV set some hard to overcome standards for NY in video games.
>>318133747
But Anon!
Imagine... CHARIOTS!
Run down those PROFLIGATES with a FUCKING CHARIOT!
>>318123795
They also made South Park: Stick of Truth. I'd be surprised if they didn't walk away with a sizable paycheck from that.
>>318133120
>>318133747
I haven't touched New Vegas in a while but is there a working vehicle mod for that one?
After all, there's at least some space in there to drive a dune buggy on, right?
What about a spin-off in Europe? That would be a nice way to build something new from the grounds up and come up with new factions, new gameplay etc
Besides, who wouldn't want to visit all these old historical buildings in London or Paris after a nuclear war?
>>318133948
Wasn't that only a mild success or did I miss something entirely?
Also, kinda looking forward to "Fractured But Whole", gotta love that retarded name too.
>>318134052
And here come the hardcore fans who shit their pants at the mention of playing outside the US in 3, 2, 1!
>>318133974
Depends the strength of your rig and your definition of "working".
Do the cars drive? Mostly, yes.
Are there occasional fuckups? Yeah.
>>318108215
>too developed
Wot. FO 1 and 2 had more developed settlements than any of the 3D Fallouts had. Hell, they had proper buildings as opposed to these shacks.
>>318116693
>I like Obsidian
Oh look, a child
>>318134052
>In 2052, Europe was heavily dependent on oil imports from the petroleum-rich states of the Middle East and responded with military action to rapidly rising oil prices that were damaging its economy, starting the terrible global conflicts that later historians simply lumped together as the Resource Wars.
Fuck, I think this is HAPPENING sooner than expected.
Have YOU owned up to liking violence and Jackass and Itchy and Scratch yet?
>>318134241
>I shift the goalpost and lazily flip an insult
Oh look, a c uck
>>318133063
>Georgia and their jazz and redneck culture
> jazz
u wot m8?
>>318115607
>Trusting critics/reviewers
Most of the time, they're brain dead retards
>>318121736
>Fallout seattle
>somehow the space needle is still standing
>still rips you off by making you pay an absurd amount of caps to walk to the top
FTFY
>>318134342
>I use big terms like shift the goalpost
*Tips fedora*
>>318134150
>>318134052
>What about a spin-off in Europe?
Just as soon as we get a Metro 2033 set in New York.
>>318106786
didn't read the thread, just dropped by to say "yes they should." well, bye
>>318134426
>turns out the top acts as an AYYLIEN SPACESHIP and it's been just been dormant all along.
THANKS TODD.
>>318134430
>I pretend to know words and shitpost
Whatever, kid
>>318109795
>fallout: Cincinnati Ohio
>tribes of people is torn up bengals uniforms screaming whodey and trying to sacrifice you to their immortal ghoul idol any dalton
>skyline chilli and goldstar are factions in the game
>WEBM is on the radio still playing thunderstuck 24/7 250 years later
>due to the nuclear fallout the Cincinnati river is clean and perfectly consumable
i'd play it
>>318107613
It is because of hype culture, but a lot of people are dissapointed with it.
>>318126158
You don't understand, what a nuclear winter is, right?
Fallout DETROIT
>>318135317
What's the difference?
>>318132947
>>318133814
If New York City wasn't blown to bits, I could see a very interesting way to develop New York City to make it work, but would take a lot of work.
Make 3 world size elevation maps.
Top elevation would be the skyscrapers. I'm pretty sure everyone would be living within the ruins of the tall buildings and connecting them together to avoid walking on the ground. New York City streets would probably be flooded with water, filled with a shit ton of vegetation. This is where you will find almost all the settlements in the game and a lot of raiders while running across makeshift bridges and abandoned skyline offices made into settlements
Next would be the ground level, this is where you as the player will encounter most of the abandoned areas and major pre-war buildings long since forgotten, like court houses and the huge New York Public library. Very dangerous creatures are always roaming around this part of the elevation, ghouls, cannibal raiders and super mutants.
Next would be underground. New York City has literally cities and ridiculous humongous tunnels underneath tunneling all over manhattan island. This could be like the Underdark for Forgotten Realms or Under-Empire in Warhammer Fantasy. A place to find some vaults, hidden ALLYUM secrets, dangerous legendary monsters, glowing beasts, hordes of ghouls, bioluminescent vegetation.
This would probably be too ambitious since you have to make 3 maps over.
Anyone know how to get that NV mod that lets you use Kenshiro's techniques to work? Every time I start a game, the damn thing is grayed out.
>>318135550
You can remake the city without the people in it, it would be an improvement.
>>318107729
Why is he making a nazi salute?
phoenix?
>>318107415
Is hawaii even in the fallout universe? I would guess with all the nukes and that its just islands, it would have been wiped off the map. (or its volcanoes erupted with all the nukes going off or soemthing)
>>318133132
Bethesda could just retcon that.
Todd, are you listening?
What I assume may happen is a dlc that activates very late game where the prydwen would fly there to face a newly reformed and have a war similar to the way they did in fallout 3. Or they go to lost hills and stage a coup where you can decide to help Maxon's forces retake lost hills under the reform of helping the wasteland, or to betray them and to defeat the Commonwealth bos to keep the lost hills chapter in power. Either way there is gonna have to be a dlc where you go to the west coast, but another game based there I doubt will happen.
>>318107415
Hawaii here
Realistically speaking, we wouldn't exist, Pearl Harbor is a major naval port, guarantee we would have been nuked to oblivion. Though if it was just one nuke, could be interesting.
>>318136073
He would for profits. People saying it has no chance are fucking retarded
>>318136376
Did WW II even happen in the Fallout universe?
>>318136707
Yep. The timeline that separates the Fallout Universe and ours diverges at the end of WW2
>>318107061
>New Vegas was shit
proof or gtfo
Fallout Tactics is a good game
>>318134052
If Europe, then Germany would be the best setting.
Is Arcanum better than Fallout 1&2?
I want to see Enclave done right after Fallout 3.
But i mean, even just some expansive, aggressive military group that isn't stone age spear chuckers would work.
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