I CANT BELIEVE YOU FAGGOTS WILL EAT THIS SHIT UP FUCKING NEO-NINTENDO I SWEAR.
WHERES OUR PAPER MARIO WII U NINTENDOOOOOOOOOOOO
>wanting any game from neo-Intelligent Systems
Just let them make their waifu games and think of them as dead, anon. It's better for all of us.
Dream Team had lame tutorials but otherwise it was great. I expect more of the same, hopefully addressing that very common complaint.
>>318101449
My biggest issue so far has been the boss fights. They are obscenely long, the one against the drill dude took me like 13 minutes, and this was after a few failed attempts (because I'm playing on Hard Mode)
>>318101449
well they've a lot of the tutorials optional now.
I hate Mario & Luigi.
I've never seen it as a successor to SMRPG or Paper Mario.
Then we got fucking Sticker Star and what am I supposed to think?
Why can't we just have a proper Paper Mario for the Wii U?
Does Nintendo still have an A-team working on games?
>>318101625
Perfect. Sounds good to me.
I like Paper Mario more in the first place though. A little fanny chafed that he's the back-up and it's another M&L game.
>>318101621
Thats because it's hard mode.
>>318101746
Well then what the fuck were they thinking? It's not hard to have a boss fight take over 10 minutes, it's just fucking boring. I can appreciate the increased damage and limited carry capacity, but that and the go-back-to-your-last-save setup is clearly not what this game was designed for.
>>318101621
>Game is hard on hard mode
That's good.
Gotta turn that down if you want a quicker/easier time.
>>318101686
well i think its better than paper mario and smrpg but its all subjective. don't know why you would hate it though.
>>318101916
Well they were thinking lets include hard mode where enemies do more damage and take more damage. Complaining about this seems redundant.
Why exactly are Paper Mario fans so autistic?
You don't see it in M&L, or even SMRPG fans.
Is it the Sonic tier OCs? Or the GameCube, that was the incubator of the most autistic fanbases in history?
>>318102094
Sticker Star pissed off many people and it appears to be the direction Paper Mario is going nowadays to them
>>318101946
I literally just addressed that here:
>>318101916
doing the exact same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again is not a hard boss fight. Watching that stupid attack where Bowser rolls at me while I jump over flames occasionally for the 5th time is not hard, it's fucking mind-numbing.
>>318102093
And clearly the thought process stopped dead, there. The fact that you can't skip cutscenes even though a previous save file is required on the cart is the most retarded lack of consideration I've seen from this kind of game, because failing a boss fight generally means you have to sit through a minute of cutscene every fucking time you lose
>>318102337
> failing a boss fight generally means you have to sit through a minute of cutscene every fucking time you lose
It was like that in the previous games.
>>318102337
>I literally just addressed that here:
>Well then what the fuck were they thinking?
They were thinking it's hard mode, it should feel more difficult if you fail.
>>318102446
It was, but, in the previous games, regular bosses did not fucking OHKO you
>>318102561
Well it's fucking HARD MODE.
>>318101686
>I hate Mario & Luigi.
Man that's harsh. I don't get it. The series has never had a game on the level of Sticker Star at least, and plays similarly to SMRPG and the Paper Mario games.
>>318101686
It just means you have garbage taste, not their problem
>>318102551
>it should feel more difficult if you fail.
How many times do I have to rephrase the thought, "sitting through a series of attacks I've already mastered countering/dodging multiple times in a row for several minutes is not challenging" before you understand what I'm trying to say?
>>318102674
And so they need to fucking design around it rather than slapping it on there and calling it a day. If it's HARD MODE, then why am I still sitting through several hours of tutorial and having NPCs stop me to make sure I know how to tie my fucking shoes?
>>318102863
>How many times do I have to rephrase the thought, "sitting through a series of attacks I've already mastered countering/dodging multiple times in a row for several minutes is not challenging" before you understand what I'm trying to say?
>I've mastered
So why are you needing to go back again?
>>318102863
>why am I still sitting through several hours of tutorial and having NPCs stop me to make sure I know how to tie my fucking shoes?
well i cant defend that.
but obviously you need the help if your stuck on the second boss.
Don't play Hard Mode in turn-based RPGs is the moral of the story, it's always just a more boring version
>>318099932
>IS will soon go the way of Camelot
>>318103398
>implying they havent already
>>318103275
Not really, in most RPGs it forces you to grind, in ML you just have to get better at avoiding attacks since 2 hits from a boss and you're fucked.
>>318102863
Dude you can kill Dreamy Bowser with 5-6 hits even on hard mode, it's not tedious at all.
I even hold back fighting him for the first time because I wanted to experience every attack.
>>318103656
>it forces you to grind
Well some people find that boring.
>>318099206
>wii u
lol. you actually bought that console?
WHO /Knew-the-wiiu-was-going-to-flop-and-skipped-it/ HERE?
NX is where it's at. There's a reason the wii u has 3-4 worthwhile games in its whole lifetime. Neo-Ninty are holding the games for the NX launch.
>>318103398
>ISIS will soon go the way of Camelot
A THING OF MYTH.
>>318104171
>mfw I own Wii U and will get NX after a couple years most likely
Bowser is always the best character in Mario RPGs (except for that one time for obvious reasons). This game has two Bowsers, two small Bowsers, and seven medium sized Bowsers. That sounds like a winner to me.
>>318104834
I posted the wrong image, but it actually kind of fits a little.
>>318102956
Because the bosses take time to learn. In normal gameplay, I imagine that would consist of taking some damage, healing up, and continuing to beat on the boss until it went down. In hard mode, however, this consists of losing the fight because one attack took out all or half your health, trying again, getting the timing, and then losing because you slipped up, and then doing the fight a third time without taking any damage.
It's fucking boring.
>>318103006
I'm not stuck on any boss. Bowser's just an excellent example of how horrendously tedious the boss fights get.
>>318103896
>with 5-6 hits
with fucking what? He has 233 HP and the bowling ball attack deals roughly 30 damage at that point, iirc. Having somewhere between 10-15 BP at that point, I would expect needing to use syrup a few times as well, thus burning another turn and being forced to wait through another attack since you only have Mario in that fight.
>>318105096
>Because the bosses take time to learn
>In normal gameplay, I imagine that would consist of taking some damage, healing up, and continuing to beat on the boss until it went down. In hard mode, however, this consists of losing the fight because one attack took out all or half your health, trying again, getting the timing, and then losing because you slipped up, and then doing the fight a third time without taking any damage
So you need to play the game on normal, son.
I don't understand why this is so complicated for you. The game will not make you do that on an easier setting. If you don't enjoy the harder setting and doing it over, play on the easier mode.
You don't NEED to play hard mode to discuss games here. It just helps.
>>318105096
Bowling ball? But you fight him outside Dream World.
Anyway you're supposed to know their attack patterns already from normal mode since you're playing on hard, that's why they're so punishing.
>>318105336
hes talking about the bowser and antasma fight when you fight them in the dream world at the same time
>>318104834
Theirs also the two Bowser caretakers.
>>318105179
>So you need to play the game on normal, son.
Fuck that. I'm not sitting through the game's slow-paced bullshit a second time just because I picked the wrong difficulty mode. I understand it's my own fault for borrowing a friend's copy and not figuring out what exactly hard mode entailed before choosing it, but I still think that it clearly did not have a lot of the necessary thought put into it. In general, though, I actually think I made the right choice because I really like normal enemy encounters. They feel dangerous, they seem to go by at an appropriate length for how often I fight them. It's just boss fights I have an issue with.
>>318105336
>Bowling ball? But you fight him outside Dream World.
I'm referring to the first Bowser+Antasma fight.
>you're supposed to know their attack patterns already from normal mode since you're playing on hard
Then why bother making them take so long? I imagine that, if I'd already played the game on normal mode, I'd probably be even more bored out of my mind. What's the point?
Shit, why not give them the additional attacks they get from the arena?
>>318105683
Kek, so he's literally at the beginning of the game and already has problems?
Better to play on normal mode son.
>>318105967
>Kek, so he's literally at the beginning of the game and already has problems?
Yeah, I'm already having problems with how fucking boring it is.
>>318099206
>>318101686
I don't get people that like PM games but dislike M&L games. It makes no fucking sense. If anything, the M&L games have a better track record and more inventive games.It's because you were a drooling child when you played TTYD, right? Fucking millennials.
>>318106257
its alright pal just practice up it doesnt take that long.
>>318106395
What are you even talking about?
>>318102705
its because there are no mario ocs tumblr tells me i should like in it
>>318105958
>that it clearly did not have a lot of the necessary thought put into it
I think your choice of difficulty didn't have a lot of the necessary thought put into it.
How many references to past PM/M&L games are there in this?
>>318101621
>>318101746
>When DT does it, it's okay because it's hard mode
>When PiT does it, it's the worst game in the series
damn
I'm getting that starting to see that Neo-Nintendo /v/'s been talking about
>>318106749
>I think your choice of difficulty didn't have a lot of the necessary thought put into it.
You're absolutely right! Both statements are true.
>>318106305
>better track record
By a lot.
Paper Mario has 1 great game, 1 good game, 1 shit game and 1 complete abomination.
Mario and Luigi has 2 great games, 1 good game and one okay game.
>>318106830
I mean your personal choice, you should have thought to play on normal.
>>318106818
Nobody said anything about PiT you fucking mong.
>>318106879
I did think to play on normal. I decided against it, and have so far mostly enjoyed my time with hard mode. Except the boss fights.
Maybe I'm just salty that the boss music in DT is the worst fucking thing Yoko Shimomura has ever composed.
>>318106818
PiT's problems were more about the shit map/level designs and easy difficulty compared to SSS, at least up until the final boss which takes 10-20 fucking minutes to kill.
>>318106818
DT bosses don't have inflated health.
You can take out Bowser in a few hits with the giant bird.
And PiT is still a piece of shit tbch familia.
>>318106797
The game is not out yet. No one knows for sure yet. But from what we do know so far,
Paper Mario has his Slim and Paper Plane abilities from TTYD. Starlow is back from BiS and DT, Superstar Saga battle theme is remixed for the bros before Paper Mario joins them, etc.
>>318106305
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>>318107179
>The game is not out yet
Huh, I thought Germany got it early or something?
>>318107193
What's bait, that ML has a better track record and TTYD fags are autistic?
Those are facts.
>>318107304
streamers and lets players got it but they were only allowed to show the first 30-40 minutes of the game
>>318107091
>the boss music in DT is the worst fucking thing
I have never seen so much shit taste.
>>318106797
Some references.
Doesn't seem old characters are in outside from Starlow though.
>>318107145
>DT bosses don't have inflated health.
see pic
And also see this early boss fight in which a guy takes no damage but still needs seven fucking minutes to win.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXzAa6L-LUo
>>318102094
>Or the GameCube, that was the incubator of the most autistic fanbases in history?
Actually, that's the Wii, since that has Twilight Princess, all of Metroid Prime, Mario Galaxy, and NSMB on it
>16 individual posters
All the Mario RPG threads have this fucking tiny-ass number
Are the games really that unpopular?
>>318107536
I don't know how someone's sense of quality music could be so distorted that they'd actually find that fucking atrocious boss music good. Of course, this comes from the same composer who made two amazing battle music variations and then fucking ruined them when she rearranged them for Smash.
>>318099206
Whoa, calm down there, mariotehplumber.
>>318107836
>this comes from
wow I just split off into an entirely different though
I meant, "this boss music"
>>318107715
Meleefags alone beat all of those.
Primefags also started on GC and WWfags > TPfags (also on GC btw)
>>318107836
Shit taste, if anything the worst song in any M&L would be Cackletta Battle theme, that thing doesn't even loop right making it awful because is too short that you will hear that awful loop too much even if the fight isn't long.
>>318107836
its just your shit taste its the bes boss music in the series
>>318108689
>>318108203
you poor souls
>>318107972
Everything Gamecube can be played on Wii
Also, the whole Miis thing
>muh thousand year door
you fucking faggots will never be satisfied
>>318108808
i should be pitying you. first you complain about the difficulty of bosses in the hard mode then you shit on the best boss theme.
How many gamecube games have autistic fanbases?
>>318109002
All of them.
From PoR to Chibi Robo.
>>318099206
Paper mario sucks you autistic fuck
>>318107091
>DT is the worst fucking thing Yoko Shimomura has ever composed.
>>318107972
Don't forget Sunshinefags, so deluded in their autism, that they not only think it's a good game, but what all Mario games should copy.
>>318099206
>retards think this was the new paper mario game
it baffles me how these mongoloids function in society
>>318099206
wii u is going out the door anon. if anything it would be on the NX.
