It is worth it to get an i7 for gaming ?
No. Stick with the much cheaper and readily available i5.
yeah if you can afford it, should stay useful a bit longer than an i5.
>>318073261
the AMD FX-8350 is superior to anything the kI5kes have to offer
i5 6400 or 6600?
Is there such a big difference?
>>318074269
>3 year old processor that needs to be ran at over 9000ghz and 100*c to compete
The i7 6700k is sold out alost everywhere, and has gone up $70 in price, I'm currently waiting to buy one, but if it stays like it is for another month, I will be going i5.
>>318073261
Go amd, don't buy botnet processors.
>>318075596
Kek
>>318074653
9000 GIGA hertz. A little exaggeration there?
No, an i5 will be just fine for gaming. You only need an i7 if you're doing CPU intensive tasks that require hyperthreading.
i7 is a meme
skylake is a meme
ddr4 is a meme
you're literally wasting your money buying these for gaming. almost no games use hyperthreading and skylake and ddr4 have literally no impact on gaming performance.
>>318075832
What's DDR4 anyway?
Even faster RAM?
>>318075952
it is another gen of ram
Just gayming?
i5
Got a dank ass face cam meme game channel?
fx 8k
Unless you got cash to burn then do what the fuck you want.
And that's only with DDR3.
>>318074528
Yes.
Not much between 6400 and 6500, but there is a big difference between 6400 and 6600. I just bought a 6600 myself. Non k because overclocking is a waste.
>>318075832
Its the new generation of hardware, it will be required going forward, how can it be a meme? That's like saying new console generation is a meme. Sure the old ones are still good, and you can still buy them, but they are not going to be supported going forward.
>>318075952
it's faster and a better tech but so far it has no use for gaming. ddr3 ram is still excellent for gaming, and it's way cheaper. you won't see any performance improvements with ddr4 for gaming.
>>318076093
>Non k because overclocking is a waste.
Stopped reading there.
>>318076067
That's not games.
>>318076067
This is what happens when there is no competition, no innovation and it becomes stale.
Remember when Creative had the monopoly, the same thing might happen to Inter or Nvidia if they try to push AMD out of the market.
>>318075952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utWnjA4NzSA
>>318074269
I have an 8350 and a gtx 760. What's the best card I can get with this processor?
6700k and 6600k are both near identical when OCed for games. i7 only pulls ahead for multi threaded applications.
>>318076093
then why didnt you just get a xeon you uneducated fuck
>>318075696
>butthurt that AMD can't build processors to save their lives
>>318075832
Wrong fag, some games are already getting boost from the i7 and more will in the FUTURE
>>318076385
Can't use Xeon with LGA 1151 and I wanted M.2 support for my SM951 nvme drive.
>>318076235
Good, cause it was the last part of the sentence and you are supposed to stop there.
>>318076297
>CPU mattering for games
Okay.
>>318075832
An i7 can actually have rather significant effects on beyond 60Hz gaming. Hell in GTAV not even my 4790k at 4.6GHz can manage a solid 120fps.
That being said skylake and DDR4 are pretty pointless thus far. Some games can make use of better RAM (BF4, GTAV, FO4) but DDR3 is still generally cheaper than DDR4, even for higher clocked DDR3 kits.
>>318076235
it doesn't though. cpus are not the bottleneck for gaming. any decent cpu you buy will be more than enough for gaming with stock speeds.
>>318074269
Don't listen to this faggot, I got that piece of shit and still regret it. At least it keeps me warm during winter.
>>318076662
Not yet, but thats likely where gaming is going over the next five years. Games are going to need better processing in the near future.
>>318076662
Exactly and even more so for the Rift next year.
Now I just need a $600 GPU. Fuck!
>>318076662
Because it's easier to overclock than buy a new CPU/motherboard in a few years. And it's literally free performance gain.
>>318076550
>can't use xeons with 1151
ahem
http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?s=t&SocketsSupported=FCLGA1151
>>318076584
That's for single player, in a 64 player multiplayer matches you can expect drops into the 20's.
>>318076330
You can get even titan x, but your processor is still performing on par with some oc'd pentium or i3
>>318077152
Q4 2015
I still have an i7 930. How desperately do I need to build an entirely new computer? Can I hold out another console generation (ie 3-4 years)?
I have a GTX 660Ti, is it even worth upgrading the GPU to a 900 series card, or will my CPU bottleneck it?
>>318077394
Also it is showing LGA 1155.
>>318076383
>4R/8W
what does this mean
>>318076850
Don't bother "futureproofing" when we're at the silicon plateau already. 10nm is the "practical" limit. It's going to be a long time before 5nm hits market without graphene or similar.
I can have a i5 6400 + Mobo MSI B150 Gaming M3 + 2x DDR4 8gb Kingston hyperX for 334€.
Worth it?
I have a Sandy Bridge i7, will going to a Haswell i5 be a downgrade?
>>318074269
I'm so tempted to get this for the price but dont want bottleneck out the ass with an AMD gpu.
Is AMD still pushing MORE CORES? Do the additional cores do anything yet?
>>318078576
Yes, and no because they still aren't real cores.
>>318073261
Isn't the i7 6700k sold out everywhere?
i got a 4690k last year so i could overclock if i need to. hasn't felt slow in the slightest.
my meme 970 has been fantastic too.
cpus are memes and who cares bout them they're all good
when are amd and nvidia going to release their new gpus?
>Tfw Skylake CPU not on sale today
Does the stock ventirad of the skylake are enough?
I used the stock on my 2500K and never had an issue.
>>318079254
it's fine. you only NEED a special cooler unless you're overclocking fiercely. most people buy coolers because they're consumerists.
>>318074269
Kiskes? I dont get it
>don't want to upgrade because better shit is six months away
>repeat every six months for the last five years
>rig that was decent in 09 is now a toaster
>will never get around to upgrade because better shit will be available six months later
>>318079506
Exactly my mentality, except mine is from 08.
Had no problems with games until this year though, shit is getting ugly.
>>318079506
I said fuck it and I upgraded a few days ago.
For now we only know marketing stuff about pascal.
Can I put 2xDDR4 + 2xDDR3 RAM on my mobo ?
>>318076309
problem is consoles are holding hardware back
>>318080008
no, ddr4 is only compatible on certain motherboards and you can't mixmatch different ram types/speeds
>>318073261
No. You could even use a 3 yeard old AMD fx for gaming with barely different results (given that you installed the intel compiler patcher).
>>318076383
Weird. I have a @ fx 8350 and i'm playing it with mostly 50 fps on ultra (980 ti).
>>318078917
amazon still has them but they're $420 blaze it
just go with the 4790k
>>318074269
lol
You don't need more than 4 cores for gaming. All those extra cores aren't doing shit, most games barely even utilize 4 cores to begin with, never mind 8. Even games that are "optimized" for 4+ cores (ie. Battlefield 4) don't really see an improvement over a similarly priced or cheaper quad-core (thanks to the faster core clock speed of most quad-cores compared to hex/octo cores).
For example, you can get a quadcore FX-4350 for $60 cheaper than a FX-8350, but the FX-4350 has a higher base core clock speed, and will likely perform at or just slightly below the FX-8350 and its 8 cores.
Whats that program everyone uses to screenshot their computer specs? Just made my first PC for about £800 and wanted to get belittled on the internet.
>>318073261
just get an i5 and overclock it
>>318081527
Windows key + Pause/Break key
>>318076383
>Playing gta5 with an 8350
>getting 55fps
Chart confirmed for made up bullshit.
>>318081486
What site is this?and why is everything reported on these charts so fucked up?
>>318077127
>literally use more electricity for more power
>free
Do you make your own electricity you little shit ?
>>318082212
pclab.pl, one of the few unbiased benchmarking sites
![bigstock-Solar-Panel-On-A-Red-Roof-14532428[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qIjzsJB.jpg "bigstock-Solar-Panel-On-A-Red-Roof-14532428[1].jpg")
>>318082284
>>318081791
Neat. 7.6, thats good enough right? That's out of 10 or something?
I also seen screen shots of peoples specs that identify the type and make of RAM, the case, PSU and all that shit. I'll was just looking on /g/ does piriform speccy ring any bells?
>>318082460
It's okay.
>>318082285
if results aren't producible then bias is the only explanation. These result aren't producible.
>>318082625
You mean reproducible? Obv. Skylake is better than an 8350.
>>318082460
speccy is the program you're looking for. Windows performance score means nothing.
>>318082625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ_5p9wd2dk
Okay.
>>318078101
>bottleneck
stop this dumb buzzword no processor from 2010 or greater will give you a bottleneck
>>318078101
>bottleneck
This 5 year old AMD processor is STILL not bottle-necking my system. Things a fucking work horse of the highest order and I haven't even had to overclock it yet.
The 4 gigs of RAM isn't even bottlenecking me, but it is getting close.
>>318082836
Thanks man, You reckon these are okay for 800 quid? I also got a big ass fucking ricer case, on sale, that reminds me of my mates Toyota and some other stuff like mouse, keyboard and printer.
>>318083647
It's okay.
>>318075952
a bit but its more for mobiles since its main draw is less power consumption
>>318073261
It's good for running unoptimized Bethesda trash
>>318074269
kekkers
>>318083818
>micro center
>literally micro transaction
>>318075832
I bought one of the original i7s back in 2009. It's still running nicely at 3.7Ghz but I've had hyperthreading disabled for 4 years now since it just overheats the chip and gives insignificant performance gains. In fact, in some games they actually ran slower with hyperthreading enabled!
Is Skylake a meme?
I'm looking at 4690k vs. 6600k, about $80 difference for both setups.
> tfw Fallout 4 performance scales with fucking RAM speed
jesus, Bethesda can't into game development.
i'm poor and stuck with an AM3+ board
which one of the fx processors should i get? have a 7870 and custom cooler on my cpu
>>318084921
Holy shit, what's the sauce on the unedited part?
For how long I am set with a skylake 6400?
This black friday is killing me.
>>318073261
Don't go AMD.
Low end, Pentium Anniversary Edition G3258. Overclocks like a madman
Otherwise, i5. Overclocks well but you gotta invest a bit more for higher end clocks (I suggest all in one waterblock coolers, easy to install but make sure you check for evaporation/leaks if you see nominal temps go up over time)
>>318085107
Fx 6300
>Skylake i7 sold out everywhere and gets so expensive that a 5820k is cheaper
>buy one and overclock it to 4,5GHz
>don't even know what to do with all those cores as the shitty ports and indie shovelware that makes up most of PC gaming never use more than four
First world problems are truly the worst.
>>318082956
>38-49
that's not 27
nice try though
>>318083953
Okay, but how does it compare with oc'ed cpus?
>>318083549
Pff. GTA V performs like shite on that.
>>318074994
^_^
>>318085107
The higher you can go, the better. Except don't get the FX-9xxx series, they aren't that much faster but they redefine the term "housefire" and can actually destroy lower end motherboards.
>>318086864
Nobody cares about garbage GTA games.
>>318085107
>>318087005
8320e with a hefty overclock is the favorite now isn't it?
>>318087005
gotta watch those watts. Shoving an 225w processor in a 125w slot is going to cause problems.
>>318087004
>saving my picture
w-weird
>>318087253
Did you get the $240 980 cap'd?
>>318087401
That was me as well.
Anyone knows a good GPU I can buy on Black Friday? Mine is about 3 years old now, and it was medium tier back then.
Still maxing most games but ARK has been raping it.
Got some quick question. I am having 1155 socket mobo and thought it's time to change CPU. But i kinda confused with prices, but wasn't prices for old sockets lowered? It's look like i can get more modern 1150 CPU cheaper than old 1155 CPU.
>>318087662
ARK is an unoptimized piece of shit and runs awful on a 980ti. A decent current mid-range card is the R9 390 (not 390X). If you can wait see what nVidia Pascal does once the cards come out next year.
>>318087810
>If you can wait see what nVidia Pascal does once the cards come out next year.
I already know:it's 750usd
>>318087552
story behind this witchcraft?
Yes, not only do more games take advantage of it, and more heavily take advantage of it every day, but so does everything else you would ever do with your PC. It's more than worth it for amazing emulation as well.
Still, if you don't have a big budget stick with an i5. It's fine.
>>318087997
I made a 150 off coupon
>>318087997
Micro Center originally had a sort of liquidation sale on their GTX 980s, dropping the price to around $240 USD. They updated this price change on their website for around 24hrs on July 11th.
>>318088063
i saw that image posted recently, it's from like 2010. so fake barcode photoshopped coupons still get past some people?
nice.
Any exciting new cpus coming out next year to go with the releases of the Oculus Rift and Pascal cards from Nvidia? Planning on building a new system when the latter two are available.
>>318089460
AMD Zen in late 2016.
>>318073261
Worth it in perfomance?
Yes with hyperthreading disabled, some games use it apparently.
Worth it in money over a I5?
Not at all.
>>318075952
More important for stuff that uses batteries, in normal PCs not really important.
