DEMON'S SOULS TEASED
IS IT A SEQUEL?
HD REMASTER?
https://twitter.com/Bloodborne_PS4/status/670209778375725056
STATUS: HAPPENING
>STATUS: HAPPENING
STATUS HAPPENING
DO IT
Kind of looks like it says PS3 to the left of Demon's Souls.
>>318043148
>HD Remaster
It's already HD ya dingus.
>>318043148
Another Bloodborne on a Bloodborne machine
>>318043148
>DeS
>Bloodborne
>Bloodborne DLC
>Bloodborne 2
urdum
So Sony now has....2 games.
>>318043148
Didin't that leaker guy from Neogaf say that From was working on another PS4 RPG?
Probably a remaster
Sweet, Demon's Souls on PC too finally, remastered.
I'll cum gallons if they're really teasing an HD remake!
If From does remaster Demons Souls would that count towards its 3 exclusive games deal with Sony?
>>318043456
Yeah but I doubt this is it
Time to get a PS4.
>>318043148
I'm not seeing what the fuss is about, its just a picture, it doesn't imply anything.
>>318043623
Why would the official Bloodborne twitter tweet a random picture of Demon's Souls?
GUYS
PSX IS IN A WEEK
PLAYSTATION EXPERIENCE
ITS ACTUALLY HAPPENING
>>318043148
>IS IT A SEQUEL?
>HD REMASTER?
Either way I want it.
>>318043435
this anon gets it
fuck me laddie
>>318043294
>implying it won't be teasing a PC release along with the PC remote play from Sony
Thanks console bros :^)
>Des
>Not noticing the two bloodbornes at the bottom
Bloodborne 2 confirmed
>>318043435
>Bloodborne 2
>bloodborne 2
Literally why, as much as I love Bloodborne, a sequel would be fucking stupid, Souls games are best when there are no sequels.
>>318044456
If you say so it must be true
>>318044456
>Literally why
So we can hunte beasts with Maria-chan, Gerhman-senpai and Ludwig-kun
Demon Souls and Red Dead Redemption 8th gen editions would make me cum the Indian Ocean.
>tfw demons souls will be 10 years old next year
>tfw most exclusivity deals only last 10 years
>>318043148
I'd be ok with this. I just bought a PS4 bundle + Bloodborne. Demon's Souls getting ported onto PS4 means I can sell my PS3 to recoup some of the money back.
>another souls rehash
This is getting pretty pathetic now
>>318043148
If it's a remaster they better keep the game exactly the same. Higher framerate and resolution is a given, but no need to mess around with the gameplay.
Isn't that just the PS3 box of demon's souls?
>>318045743
That's not how it works
>>318045743
>tfw demons souls will be 10 years old next year
Are you fucking retarded?
>>318043148
That's quite clearly a 3 on the DeS box. Going by the width it's just that they stacked the special edition or with the Bloodborne boxes to make a picture. Nothing to shit your pants over.
>>318045952
i have an inoperable brain tumor
Yay, yet another Souls game!
All hail the Japanese Ubisoft.
>>318043148
UpcomingPCreleases?
>>318046002
Well serves you right for being retarded
That's the PS3 box you blind retards
And here comes the PC release. Boys, gentlemen, fasten your seatbelts
>>318046189
>twitter pic with a bunch of other ps4 games
>ps4 exclusive conference in a week
>hurrr durrr it's coming to pc
>>318046189
Keep revving up those petitions, boys!
>>318046189
dream on peakek
>>318046280
>>318046287
>>318046384
I don't even know who's falseflagging anymore
I want Demons Souls on PS4... maybe improved resolution and solid framerate?
Please do this. I can't believe we get all these other remasters and not demons souls. Surely sony can handle that internally right?
Or farm it out to someone?
And where is soul sacrifice for PS4? I don't want a remaster. I want an actual sequel that takes advantage of PS4 power. Soul Sacrifice Delta was great
if that shit comes to ps4 and i finally get to play it i'm going to set up a shrine to miyazaki
and then masturbate to it
>>318046889
I honostly can't believe this hasnt happend yet. They could even do a Demon Souls + Dark Souls: Prepare to Die remaster.
The silky smooth framerate alone would be worth it
>>318045743
Demon's Souls is not an exclusivity deal. It's Sony's IP.
Maybe we can have that one crumbled archstone be accessible in the Demon's Souls remaster?
>>318043294
Another hd remaster victory
>>318043148
I'm not getting my hopes up, but I'd definitely be down for a Demon's Souls Remastered game for the PS4, or heck, even for the PC.
Personally I played through DeS myself a little while ago and quite liked it, playing through DS on the PC right now.
Ultimately I'd love some kind of Souls bundle or something, just like people have done with other franchises. With upgraded graphics and framerate for the PS4 and/or PC.
>>318047463
>hd remaster victory
Its obviously Bloodborne 2. Note the 2 bloodbornes after the DLC.
>>318043148
>remastering a ps3 game
>>318044456
Because Bloodborne is the best souls game
I'm not saying I want a direct sequel but I would be more excited for BB2 than I am for DS3
>>318043148
WHAT? WHERE?
PS4 blog just tweeted a picture of stack bloodborne discs with demon's souls on top.
How the fuck does that mean anything?
Jesus, way to get me interested for nothing.
>>318047535
sony owns demons souls it will never be on other than ps4
>>318043148
>an HD remaster would be cool
>suddenly flashbacks from farming a pure Bladestone
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
>>318047830
>they wouldn't bother to fix any deficiencies in the game
A whole new generation of players gets to learn about the scraping spear. I almost feel motivated to get a playstation 4 just to teach them
>>318043339
No "kinda" about it.
That's absolutely a 3. I can't tell if everyone in this thread is retarded or just pretending.
>>318044343
Didn't Miyazaki say somewhere that Bloodborne's plot is finished and the setting has nowhere to go?
I guess he said that when he was commenting on how he was eager to work on Dark Souls III during some interview.
I doubt that there will be a sequel, there are zero loose ends, everything wraps up nicely after we complete the game and the DLC.
Hope the glitches in Demon's Souls gets ironed out. Also make the grass not as common.
>HD remaster
>of a game that's already on HD
seriously? I loved the damn game but its kind of sad.
>>318048039
>what does "teased" mean
With that said this is probably nothing. Shit, even if it meant something Bloodborne 2 would make a lot more sense.
>People actually want a DeS remaster
Fucking why?
DeS is not as good as you're all remembering it to be, don't get me wrong it was a fantastic game when it came out and still is a great game, but it's quite a bit worse than both DaS and BB. It doesn't even look that bad visually, so a remaster does nothing other than reach a larger audience.
>>318047769
>what are teasers
>NO, PEOPLE ARE JUST RANDOMLY POSTING STUFF WITHOUT ANY INTENTIONS AT ALL, I AM SURE OF IT
sounds like you're wishing pretty hard for it to not happen tb.h f.am
you're just as bad as the conspiracy nuts
>>318048045
>Didn't Miyazaki say somewhere that Bloodborne's plot is finished and the setting has nowhere to go?
no, it was planned to be a franchise from day one. sequel is already confirmed in production.
>>318048238
>It doesn't even look that bad visually
but it does run at about 25 fps. it's a simple equation
spend 200-300k porting demon souls to dark souls 3 engine, make 1-2 million. no brainer.
>>318048045
>Didn't Miyazaki say somewhere that Bloodborne's plot is finished and the setting has nowhere to go?
He said about Dark Souls.
>HD remaster
fuck mentally challenged retards
>>318048238
I don't have a ps3 and I want to play it
>>318048238
>DeS is not as good as you're all remembering it to be
Still had the best music and one of the best bosses in the game
>It doesn't even look that bad visually,
It looks like dogshit and runs at 20-25 fps avarage
>so a remaster does nothing other than reach a larger audience.
I have 2 games for my PS4 ( Bloodborne and The Witcher 3 ) and i would probably buy it yet again
>>318048379
dark souls 2-3 gameplay its fucking shit . doesn't play at all like DeS
>>318044078
>PS4 twitter teasing PC release
sounds legit
>>318048961
Technically it's just the Bloodborne Twitter.
>>318048238
I played DeS and DaS back to back less than a year ago and I definitely preferred Demon's.
I'll be posting a picture later but I'm actually a staff member working on the Playstation Experience exhibit.
The dress rehearsal had some neat announcements, but nothing really major. A lot of it was confirmation of SCEJA related games being released in NA so expect to see the Gravity Rush remaster launch date brought up even though it's been confirmed, and others like that.
-FFXV is going to have a Playstation exclusive section which will include a Gilgamesh boss fight, summon, and outfit change for Noctis. It will be played on stage.
-Persona 5 is going to have its release date finalized but the trailer will only have about 25 seconds on new footage.
-Ubisoft has an announcement with Farcry, but it's just an exclusive mission and a couple of crafting items in the new Farcry.
-Capcom is announcing the last fighter for SF5 vanilla roster, as well as the first DLC fighter before the grand finals of Capcom Cup.
- Bloodborne: Heart of Demons DLC will be announced.
I'd be pretty happy if Demon's Souls came to PS4 with more content like the broken archstoneand fixes for the duping/exploits. I doubt it'll happen though.
>>318048812
>best bosses
Opinion discarded. Thematically they're amazing but they're dogshit or puzzles essentially with few exceptions.
>>318049189
- Dragons Dogma Online is going to have a beta client for the US
- Gran Turismo will be there.
- Resident Evil 2 remake will be shown.
>>318049189
>Bloodborne: Heart of Demons
Well this would fit right in with OP's pic
>>318048812
>one of the best bosses in the game
What? Who? The bosses were cool thematically (I loved the Old Monk, and using the Stormruler), but they weren't amazing gameplay wise.
>It looks like dogshit and runs at 20-25 fps avarage
The only thing that looks like utter dogshit is the UI, everything else is fine. FPS is an obvious improvement yeah.
I mean I'm not saying a remaster would be bad, I just don't see why it would incite any real level of excitement.
>>318049189
Nice try shitter
>>318049189
My brother works at Super Mario and says you're lying.
>>318049189
You got me until the Bloodborne DLC.
8.5/10
>>318049189
You're the third PS Experience staff member in two days.
>>318048045
>Didn't Miyazaki say somewhere that Bloodborne's plot is finished and the setting has nowhere to go?
Didn't Miyazaki say that about Dark Souls? And yet here he is now directing Dark Souls 3. And he probably would have directed Dark Souls 2 as well were it not for the fact that he was directing Bloodborne.
Only remaster I wanted this gen.
>>318049642
Also he said Dark Souls 3 is gonna be the last Souls game and they would start a new IP after that.
>>318049642
He said that about Dark Souls 3, not the first one.
guys we are getting halo 3 remaster
and..oh yea gravity rush remaster remaster too!
be happy!
fucking retards
It doesn't look like anything to me just people posting their Souls collections and the Sony twitter tweeting sony exclusives. Calling it a teaser is kind of a stretch. I have another question though.
Look at this picture. The first three games DeS, DeS and DaS are in cardboard boxes then how come the plastic box only DaS 2 and BB looks as thick as them next to them? Shouldn't they be leaning on the wall or be further back next to the wall. I'm asking because I want to know if there is a cardboard box version of DaS2 PC.
>>318049851
Maybe I got things mixed up.
Maybe I got it mixed up with me remembering fans who used to say that Miyazaki doesn't do sequels and only releases complete games.
>>318049927
What is the Defense Edition? I looked up on the wiki and I see nothing about it.
>>318043148
>demon's souls
>bloodborne
>bloodborne expansion
>2 copies of bloodborne = bloodborne 2 incoming
it's pretty clear, faggot
>>318050062
deluxe edition you illiterate fuck
>>318050062
it says deluxe edition
WoW some people have really cool collections. Too bad I don't have that much disposable income I just have ordinary red bd box DeS, Collectors DaS PC and... that's it.
>>318049927
I don't get what you're asking. Game boxes can stand upwards even without leaning on anything, you know. They aren't exactly stable but it's more than enough to take a quick picture.
>>318050121
half life 3 confirmed
>>318049189
Yeah except they literally said no more bloodborne after the dlc
>>318050290
sick meme
>>318050159
It was at an angle, so I had a hard time making it out.
>>318050325
t-thanks, you too
>>318050273
Ah okay then. I kinda want the physical DaS 2 Scholars PC edition but it is far too expensive. Basically the same price I got my DaS 1 Collectors PC editon with Soundtrack, making of DVD, Art book, post cards and poster etc.
>>318050062
The one on the right is "Weak Paladin Edition".
I just hope they add a lot more clothing and weapons in the next game.
>From keeps shitting out Souls games at an annual rate
>/v/ is fine with this
Alright
>>318049249
not him but he said ONE of the best bosses, learn to read m8
>>318050574
The only bad game was 2. So, yeah, I'm fine with it.
>>318050428
Don't bother replying some people are just rude but you should have found the deluxe edition on the wiki with the same cover by the way
>>318050686
You're not bored of playing the same game every year?
>>318049189
0/10
>>318050736
No.
OHHHH SHIIIIITTTTT
Demon Souls 2 is pointless. Bloodborne 2 is alright for people that like it better than standard Souls gameplay i suppose. FROM should just stick with Dark Souls or make something new.
>>318050916
Nice photoshop.
>>318050916
>60 fps
confirmed fake
Console friends always say that graphics and performance don't matter but then they beg their company of choice to give them 1080p 60fps remasters. Not really trying to start shit. Just saying.
>>318050987
I want a combination of Armored Core and Dark Souls.
Armored Souls. Or Dark Core.
>>318043148
>tfw finding out Plain Doll is voiced by the lady who did the Maiden in Black
Yesterday was a good day.
>>318051037
For future reference senpai
>>318050736
There aren't any other games like it so I don't get bored. I enjoy the core gameplay so much that new locations are enough for me. But there's a pretty big difference in structure,gameplay and themes between every entry in the series as well, you're full of shit if you claim otherwise.
>>318051228
Oh no she's cute.
>>318043148
Holy shit - Sony wins again. Another game EXCLUSIVELY on the PS4. What a time to be a sony fan.
>>318051108
It wasn't obvious for you even from the goddamn trailers?
I knew that it was going to be her when she said "And so the nightly hunt begins in one of the earlier trailers." Same East European accent.
>>318048238
Dark Souls is objectively the second worst in the series
the gameplay is not good, its slow, too defense based and has a shitty last half of a game. the games not even finished and was falsely advertised in more ways than one.
Bloodborne and Demon's actually have good level design and fast, high paced gameplay. Dark Souls excelled in lore and absolutely nothing else, Bloodborne is literally a better Dark Souls game than Dark Souls.
>>318051369
>It wasn't obvious for you even from the goddamn trailers?
I barely followed any kind of game trailers or anything since I didn't own a current gen console until about a week ago.
>>318051228
>You will never touch the demon inside her.
>>318043403
HD powerpoint
>>318051095
I'm not even sure FROM actually owns AC anymore. Kadokawa was supposed to have bought the studio and all their IPs, but Miyazaki said Bamco still has AC.
>>318051128
Thanks. like I said I don't wanna start shit. I mean the only reasoning console users could have for a PS4 DeS is that they are PS4 only users that never had PS3s but even then you can just get a second hand PS3 with DeS for really cheap. I got a CFW hacked PS3 with a free physical copy of DeS for 100 bucks. That is the same price as one collectors edition PS4 game. Even cheaper.
>>318051228
That nose.
>>318043294
>another redditfag
Please go shit up reddit with consolewar shit.
>>318051453
>fast, high paced gameplay
If only it was faster. I think Bloodborne is the best in the series, but I think it could be even better, harder and faster paced if FROM ditched the goddamn stamina system.
Or at the very least, detached rolls/quicksteps from the stamina bar. Because clearly stamina management isn't very important in BB compared to in previous Souls games.
This would move the game closer to a character-action game in terms of speed and mobility.
>>318043148
i thought he said he wanted to move on from the Souls series. but he's still making DS3, Bloodborne 2, DeS HD, goddamn
>>318051108
kinda disappointing since BB is terrible compared to DS
>>318051859
Never ever peekuk
>>318051772
Miyazaki is now the company president of From Software.
It is in his best interest, as the president, to milk his company's most popular franchise until it is dry.
I mean, BB sold like 2 million copies in a month. That's huge for the company. You really think they're gonna let that go and move on to something new and experimental?
>>318052297
theres more chances of me buying dragon souls (i fucking hate every dragon boss) (or call it whatever you want that isn't a sequel)
than buying a sequel of FROM
>>318052213
What's wrong with peacocks? They are fucking beautiful. Also, learn to spell.
>>318052297
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-interview-it-wouldnt-be-right-to-cont/1100-6432425/
>Hidetaka Miyazaki says he’s ready to close the book on Dark Souls. In an industry where it’s commonplace to stretch the popularity of franchises across annual iterations, that may be hard to believe, but he thinks it’s critical to the future of his studio, From Software.
>In May 2014, Miyazaki was appointed as the head of From Software. And yet the father of the Souls series appears to have little interest in stepping away from design and settling into a management role. Possibly the best testament to this is that our interview took place in a sound-dampened studio where Miyazaki had just finished work on some Dark Souls 3 audio. Really now, Miyazaki-san, you can delegate this stuff.
>Such actions speak for themselves, but his words are just as illuminating. In our interview, Miyazaki discusses his ambitions to move away from Souls, along with the recent beta, the advent of many other Souls-like titles, and a surprising new obsession.
yet we know for sure there is still DS3 (plus a DLC expansion obviously), BB2 (and more DLC), DeS HD (hell maybe even DLC for this?)
DeS did not age well at all, take off your nostalgia goggles, I recently replayed it and it really is not as good as it was. It gets props for being the first in its series but that's it. The pve is meh, the bosses are shit outside of fake allant, flamelurker and the maneaters, and the pvp, well, it's always been trash. Why care?
>>318052928
He is just telling people what they want to hear. He is well aware of the criticisms that they get now. Annual releases and so on. He is like a politician speaking: "We want peace, we are not enemies with that country" to calm the populace while he is actually preparing war plans with his generals.
>>318047869
>new players come in
>they get to experience the scraping spear first hand
>hp regeneration up the ass
>the true blight town
Fucking glorious, demons souls had the best invasion and summoning
>>318043148
DeS/DaS HD remaster 60fps both games really need it for consoles atleast when it comes to DaS.
>>318052943
I am in the same boat and I kind of agree but with far less harsher words. It's not trash but not what people lament about either.
>>318049034
>Bloodborne_PS4
>Not a PS4 twitter
>>318048238
>not as good as you remember it
Says you, I'm playing it right now faggot.
Meet me in 5-2 and 1v1 scrub
>>318052943
The thing about DeS is that the parts that are good are amazing, and the parts that are bad are really bad
Dark Souls is always consistently mediocre in comparison
the portstation strike again. From software? more like onetrickpony software.
>>318053702
This, DeS is still god tier.
>>318052943
Honestly its still a good business decision. Souls games are basically as normie as you can get well still retaining a moderate kind of challenge and decent design. 99% of them probably didn't play DeS since the 360 was the normie console of last gen.
So even if the game hasn't aged well and they hate it i guarantee a HD release especially digital would make loads of profit off those people just because they'll buy it either way.
Why does anyone think this is a teaser? it looks to me like they just uploaded a picture of all the sony souls games.
>>318053503
do you even hear yourself? if he was telling people what they wanted to hear, he'd be promising Souls games every year for the rest of his life
>>318052943
Still the atmosphere of DeS is only surpassed by BB
>mfw there are a considerable amount of people on /v/ who call themselves souls fans but don't have demon souls or bloodborne
what do you call these cretins? CLUCKS?
>>318047314
Why was that never made as DLC, anyway?
>des ps4 releases
>atlus can finally shut down the demons souls servers like they wanted to
>>318054231
As if you haven't seen all the "Souls is now COD shitposters" this is a valid complaint for many and he knows it. I've seen numerous times From react eerily to what the community complains about. I'm sure they listen to the Japanese community only but they probably have the same complaints.
>>318050987
I'd rather Bloodborne 0, a prequel showing the origins of the Hunt and exploring the Tomb of the Gods.
>>318048669
Get a PS3
More good games than PS4
>>318054350
Are there custom servers like for MGO2?
>>318052943
I just like DeS world and atmosphere better than DaS, it has a cool high fantasy vibe and it feels really alien. Personal preference aside, I think that from an objective standpoint, counting all DLCs
BB>DaS=DeS>DaS II
>>318054406
those are retarded /v/ and clickbait complaints that no one actually has about dark souls. every soulsfag would literally slobber on Miyazaki's tiny asian penis for a Souls game every year.
>>318048669
See >>318051598
Not to mention all the other uses you can get out of one and best part is:Second hand sony doesn't get any money :)
>>318054669
I disagree. I'll just way that much.
>What I like about Demon's Souls in retrospective.
1. Speed. I fucking love speed. That's why Bloodborne is my favorite of all the Souls games. I wish the game could be as fast and unhinged as Devil May Cry.
2. The power and PvP viability of Ultragreatsword class weapons. Dragon Bone Fist is still one of my favorite weapons in the franchise.
3. Shrine of Storms 1 and 2, Tower of Latria 1 and 2 and Boletaria 1 to 4.
>What I don't like about Demon's Souls in retrospective.
1. Reused animations for weapons. For example, the Halberd, Mirdan Hammer and the War Scythe all have the exact same moves. On this note, I also dislike lack of weapon variety.
2. Stonefang Tunnel. A complete pushover stage where the only hard enemies are the Black Phantom NPCs in Stonefang 2. The miners and the bees/slugs that count as the majority of enemies are fucking HP sponges that pose zero threat.
3. AI is the dumbest in the entire series. Get close to a Boletaria archer? They won't attack you. The Fat Officials take 10 year breaks in between attacks. The red/blue-eyed knights and the skellies in Shrine of Storms are piss easy to backstab. In each zone of the game, only one type of enemy ever poses a significant threat (like how the Cthulhu faces in Tower of Latria 1 are the only dangerous enemies there).
4. Bosses are mostly shit. Three good bosses, False King Allant, Flamelurker and Maneaters. Three mediocre bosses: Tower Knight, Armor Spider and Penetrator. The rest are utter shit. Please don't defend Fool's Idol, Dragon God, Storm King, Adjudicator and any of these other shitty, gimmicky and easy bosses.
>>318054669
>every soulsfag would literally slobber on Miyazaki's tiny asian penis for a Souls game every year.
Fuck no. Stop projecting your beliefs onto others. I would be glad for one single good Souls/BB game every 3-4 years rather than the series turning into a yearly franchise.
>>318043148
>HD REMASTER?
Isn't it already HD?
>>318054308
Retards?
>>318055017
>like how the Cthulhu faces in Tower of Latria 1 are the only dangerous enemies there
They are pretty much the only enemies in that zone
>>318055017
Fool's Idol is a literal joke boss. It's really annoying given how enjoyable Latria 1 is.
>>318054653
I wholeheartedly agree with this poster. Demon's Souls will always hold a special place in my heart.
DaS > DeS = BB >>>>>>>>>>> DaS2
I fucking despise DaS2.
>>318055353
The hollow/undead prisoners attack you, although they're ultra weak.
There's also that giant blob that shoots magic at you.
>>318055353
Nah there are dregs, that big cancer thing, and a red phantom
>>318043295
>Sonyggers actually WANT more remasters
Oh I love you people, you always give me something to laugh at
>>318055467
That's an extremely fashionable opinion.
>>318055017
>hating on the Storm King
come on senpai
>>318055631
What? Since when does african american family filters to senpai?
Demons is best Souls game. Try proving me wrong, it has the best history by far and difficulty.
>Two Bloodbornes which alludes to a sequel
So when they said they didnt want to make more of "these games" they meant they didnt want to make the Souls series of games, theyre continuing with Bloodborne?How much salt would this rake if its true
>>318055736
since halloween
baka senpai desu
>>318055736
>literally reddit
>>318055736
>he doesn't know
Where have you been since Halloween?
>>318055490
>>318055509
Yes I know there is that Legion and the Baby Nail phantom, but the zone is designed to be mostly empty with a few prison wardens you have to kill
>>318055528
I don't have a ps4, and i dislike remasters in general
But iut is possibly one of the only few ps3 games that should get a remaster versus all of the other shitty remasters/definitve editions of games that game out a a year or a few months before the ps4 came out
>>318055490
>hollow/undead
>demon souls
fuck you
Enough with the Souls shit already holy fuck.
>>318055795
Come to think of it I've also seen a lot of desu recently.
let's see, kek senpai desu tbqh
>>318055812
What is it this time?
>What I loved in Demon's Souls
Atmosphere - It just does it well, you really feel like it's a fantasy game
Music was top notch
Controls for this game handled itself pretty well, it's not the smoothest but it worked and that's what mattered
>What I hated
MOST of the bosses were pretty lame and easy once you learned the pattern, I usually crushed bosses within 2 tries or so when I started.
Farming... farming was garbage in this game
>Pure bladestone
suck my ass....
>grass during PvP
>FECK I GOT HIT BETTER FULL MOON GRASS THE FOOK OUT MEH FACE
healing was just too much I quit trying to PvP after people were using Dark Moon grass to stop plague/poison/bleed combo I had going down for awhile.
Mfw hit with Wrath of The Gods...
>>318055606
Thank you, familia. I pioneered it.
>>318043148
I'd love a demon's souls remaster. I played Dark Souls first and I can't bring myself to finish demon's. It feels like it's missing content.
>>318043435
Miyazaki has already stated he thinks the style of game he has been making is getting slightly stale so he stated DS3 will be the last souls game FROM makes.
>>318055891
Nah fuck that, people not only want to be fucked into buying the same game again because Sony can't into backwards compatibility, they want to do so with paid online
>>318047664
They "remastered" The Last of Us when it was what 1 year old?, they have no shame.
>>318047314
That land was supposed to be absolutely destroyed by the giant demons since is it where the fog initially appearedSince it was a land of giants, some even say that is where Anor Londo is/was
>>318055606
>an opinion is wrong because it's common
The reason it's such a "fashionable opinion" is because DaS II is fucking shitty compared to it's peers. It's the only souls game that is objectively worse than any of the others.
>Demon's Souls on PS4 with improved framerate and resolution
DeS is still my favorite Souls game and one of my favorite games ever. I would be so happy if we got an improved version of it.
>>318055467
Only because you're a dumb fanboy who fell in love with an overall mediocre, unfinished game and expected it's successor to be a gem. You're the only one to blame for your hate, shouldn't have set your expectations so high. The only true way to appreciate these games is to acknowledge their flaws and admit that they're all so-so in a nutshell.
>>318055528
The original runs at 25 fps and remasters aren't the problem and are a good thing, the problem is that they aren't making enough good new games, remasters are cheap, pay for themselves and are usually made by different companies than the ones that make original games and just offer superior versions of previous games. Everyone who bitches about them and not the lack of games are fucking retards.
>>318056658
You sound like a mentally challenged DS2 fanboy.
Replaying Demon's Souls I hate how it controls for some reason now. All the animations feel wrong. and everyone looks like a puppet instead of a real person
>What I like about Demon's Souls:
Everything.
>What I don't like about Demon's Souls
720p (it looks like shit on my 1080 TV). Sorry, I'm a graphics whore. I can live with the 30 fps but would like no frame drops. I also want to be able to use M+KB and be able to customize it further.
>>318055353
>>318055834
>first time playing
>go to 3-1
>Sure is empty around here
>see a tentacle face thing zip around a corner
>guess I should kill those
>come up on one, go to attack
>get grabbed and ohko'd
Good times
>>318048238
They could add a way to access the last archstone world. DeS also had the best online system
>>318056398
>buying the same game again
If you have every single PS2 and PS3 game in existence good for you, but not everyone does.
That's just a PS3 spine, the fuck you raving about
>>318056959
Yes, the animations and hitboxes are a bit overrated when you consider all the complaining about DaS 2. They have aged and nostalgia is in the way of people realizing it. I am currently replaying DeS on NG+ Still hitboxes are better but not only compared to a no adp build.
>>318043451
Now? Demon's Souls was released back in 2009.
>>318057146
I have no idea why they keep fucking up the online system when DeS had it fine. DeS acknowledged that you should have to spend resources to NOT be invaded, because having to spend rare-ish items to be invaded is fucking stupid.
Despite it being the best in the series in my opinion, Bloodborne went full pants-on-head retarded with the online system, I have no idea what they were thinking. If it aint broke, don't fucking fix it.
>>318056813
>The original runs at 25 fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxYN_y_h_6s
it's locked 30fps except when you break too many objects at once which seems to overload the cpu.
>>318053660
>bloodborne is on anything besides the PS4 currently
Luv ya too.
>>318056930
>make a post about how bad fanboism is
>get accused of being a fanboy
Well you sure do provide a wide array of rather compelling arguments, consider me BTFO'd.
>>318056813
>remasters aren't the problem and are a good thing
You people disgust me, you are fucking pathetic and have no respect for yourself if you let yourself get literally fucked out of your money
>the problem is that they aren't making enough good new games
Yes this is an issue, a huge fucking issue, but it doesn't mean remasters aren't an issue, because guess what, Sony made more than enough money selling you a remaster console, with no games to actually back it up, oh wait, you do have one game, Bloodborne, wooohoooo, sure was worth the money wasn't it? Guess it's enough if they give you one decent/good game every two years
>Everyone who bitches about them and not the lack of games are fucking retards
I bitch about both, what does that make me?
>>318056930
>He doesn't hate DaS2 so he must be a fanboy!
Not him, but you're autistic.
BB > DaS > DaS2 > DeS
>>318057373
It bothers me that people pretend the hitboxes in DaS2 are bad
They are excellent, it just so happens that the ONE bad hitbox in the game is the player's when he's in the roll animation, because it doesn't accurately follow the model.
>>318043148
That's the Black Phantom edition.
I would kill for a Demon's Souls remaster though, just clean it up a bit and have it running at 60fps.
>>318053951
>99% of them probably didn't play DeS since the 360 was the normie console of last gen.
you have never checked ps3 sales, have you
>>318057850
why are people under the impression that PS4 is powerful enough to run it at 60fps?
>>318057649
DaS > DaS 2 > DeS > BB
BB is still a masterpiece but i just love playing as a defensive knight in shining armor with a shield and BB doesn't allow me to do it, it's GOTY though.
>>318058213
because ps4 is a supercharged pc
>>318057709
>They are excellent, it just so happens that the ONE bad hitbox in the game is the player's when he's in the roll animation, because it doesn't accurately follow the model.
This does sound like truth because shit like enemies swinging right above your head after you've casted a spell happens quite often
>>318058169
PS3 didn't take off until like 4 or 5 years into its life
>>318043148
You can see the 3 on the Demon's Souls box. Which means ps3
>people post-ironically playing souls series and hyping yet another rehash
>>318058213
Because it is, there's plenty of PS3 remasters running at 60FPS, a lot of them of games way better looking than DeS.
>>318058243
I have it as BB>DS but otherwise the same.
All great games though. Demon's just felt a little unfinished with that archstone
>>318058213
Because all the other HD remasters of PS3 exclusives do?
>>318058657
I think DaS feels more unfinished than DeS. At least DeS is just missing something, I'd rather just not have lost izalith at all.
>>318045845
Its the first one, sempai.
>>318057591
Remasters are good for providing a version of a game that runs as good as a game should when it was only ever on consoles and ran at a lower resolution and frame rate, you don't have to buy them and they are good for everyone who buys that game then on who hasn't played it or who loved the game but want a version of it that runs and looks the best it possibly could. Sony isn't making less games because they are making remasters,they are doing that because they are lazy and know they don't have to and the way they use the remasters to cover is a bad thing not the fact that they exist which can only be good. Obviously you are a memeing shit eater judging by your overly emotional reaction but if you can give me a reason why remasters are a bad thing I might consider your opinion, otherwise you sound stupid as fuck.
>>318058606
>>318058760
what about The Last of Us?
They had to lower the graphics pretty far to get that running 60fps on PS4.
The only way to make it look good is to choose the 30fps option in the remaster.
I mean even REmake had framerate problems didn't it?
>>318058213
Even a constant 30 would be a massive improvement over the game as it is now.
>>318058865
60fps last of us looks the same/better as an PS3, not worse.
>>318058865
You're getting stuff mixed up. Most remasters (including an hypotethical DeS one) have the same graphics as the original version, but run at 1080p 60FPS. TLoU with the 60FPS option does just that. The 30FPS option is an extra thing that adds a bunch of post-processing that wasn't originally there. Nothing was "lowered" compared to the original.
>>318058865
Are you sure?
I was playing it at 60fps and it looked much better than the PS3 option, I mean if that's the case then running the game at 30 makes make the game look unbelievable.
More to the point though, DeS is doesn't look even remotely as good as TLOU so getting running at 1080p60 should be easy.
>>318059362
>same/better
worse too, they removed ambient occlusion in ps4 version
>>318058772
Lost Izalith makes up for it by doing good for The Fair Lady so you can bypass it completely. But yeah, that place blows normally.
DaS imo is the top because of the lore it tells though. Which is probably why I liked DaS2 so much for riding on the coattails of it. Which I hope DaS3 does as well.
DeS just doesn't have the same level there and with the exclusion of the archstone I felt it gets knocked down a peg.
But other than Lost Izalith DaS feels like a complete game. Hell we're just complaining about shitty content instead of less.
In terms of replayable content I have it:
DaS2 > DaS > Bloodborne > DeS
Though I would have had Demon's in third a week ago. You'd think Chalice Dungeons would have added more instead of a grind though.
>>318045743
>Exclusivity deal
>For your own IP
Nigga...
>tfw when playing DaS2 Sotfs at 1080p 60fps with steam controller, most responsive experience I've had with a Souls game ever
>blown away by how good 60fps feels
>would much rather go back to replaying DeS because it's just a much better game in general
>>318059739
They didn't remove it, they made it lighter. No idea why they did that, but the effect itself is still there.
>>318048238
>DeS is not as good as you're all remembering it to be,
Yes it is, plebeian. It's the Souls game I replay the most, last replay was a couple months ago.
>>318060245
Not if you're going for pure bladestone though.
>>318060303
I got one after 2 hours or farming.
>>318060208
>>blown away by how good 60fps feels
heh, DaSII at 60fps
Do you know about the durability thing?
I've only played Demon Souls, and I neither liked or disliked it. Should I bother with Bloodborne?
>>318059897
I think the biggest mistake with Chalices was that they made it so you have to progress through them linearly, which is unbelievably retarded due to how they are designed. You should be able to find the materials/chalices in the main game, so that you don't have to fucking slog through Pthumeru one-shotting everything at the very end of the real game.
>>318060563
It was fixed for SotFS.
>>318060303
You should never play monster hunter if you thought pure bladestone was hard to get.
Hey guys get in here:
twitch / barneezyjones
Let's watch Demon's Souls together for Charity. The charity is Child's Play or something and
>the streamer calls it the CP charity
Not on purpose but still I lost my shit.
>>318058861
>but if you can give me a reason why remasters are a bad thing I might consider your opinion
They are cheap cash grabs, they are oftenly advertised as games that can finally run at 60fps which isn't really much of a selling point when that's how most of them should have ran in the first place. People supporting the remasters show both Sony and the devs that there's no need to make new games when people eat of old stuff anyway. Instead of being shat on for not being able to play PS3 games sony gets away with it because there are remasters of these games that make you pay for the game yet again even if you own it(now, there would have been some sort of justification, if people who owned a game's original PS3 release could buy the remaster at a discount, but that's never the case, wait, there was an exception to that but only for DS2 and on steam).
These are my reasons for hating remasters, if you don't agree with them in any way, fuck it, do what you want, but I'm not going to support this practice in any way
>>318060687
DeS and BB are nothing alike, and I personally find BB to be the best in the series. it's also the most different by far, if you didn't like DeS you'd be more likely to like BB than DaS.
>>318043148
>Demon's souls HD remaster on PS4
>Beating old one restores 6th Archstone
>6th Archstone is where the 'real' game begins
>New content similar in size to Dark souls
Auto GOTYAY and immediate PS4 purchase.
>Demon's Souls HD
I told you cunts months ago this was on the cards along with Gravity Daze/Rush HD
It was going to be a 1080/30 digital only download.
>Fantasy Souls
>Horror Souls
Post yfw
>Sci-fi Souls
>>318045364
>Red Dead RedemptionI want that more than anything else to be frank, companions
>>318052943
>he liked Maneaters
What the fuck is wrong with you? That was one of the shittiest boss fights in the game.
>>318061354
How would these games work if the focus was on projectile weapons?
>>318055528
>making fun of people that want to play old games that ran like shit on old hardware, on newer hardware so it performs better
Isn't dragons dogma pc basically a remaster too? You kucks are rejoicing for that, so why the hypocrisy you flaming fucking retard?
>>318060830
They are cheap and easy to make while offering a superior way to play those games, that they should have been that way from the point isn't worth discussing in this context because they were not and console games will probably not be 60fps consistently for a long time. I agree that the way they have started to use them to replace games that actually make money,time and talent to make but that is how they chose to use them not how they should or have to be. Only the most retarded mouth breathers and shills excuse them for BC for the reason that you can buy them again. Your reasons for hating their existence is stupid as fuck, we agree about their business practices and I stated that but because I am not an emotional mouth breather about it it isn't enough to keep you from assuming I even own a ps4 or that I am ok with the stupid shit sony does.
Too much of /v/ is overemotionally bitching about shit in a game over and over, never discussing the mechanics and just memeing with each other, it's like eating your own shit and playing in it.
>>318057695
source pls
>>318061490
>Isn't dragons dogma pc basically a remaster too?
A) You immediatly assume I'm a mustard, shows a lot about sonyggers
B) You might be actually retarded if you think this is a remaster considering it's a game that was never avalaible on PC in the first place
>people are now demanding remasters...
fuck the industry and fuck you retards
>>318050916
>60fps
lol
>>318060802
>cp charity
how could they not see this
>>318061760
Do you enjoy playing games you replay regularly with inconsistent frame rates and low resolutions too?
>>318057591
>one game meme
Factually incorrect, and good to know I can saffely ignore the rest of this conversation string since this faggot is nothing more than an angry memester spouting the same nonsense rhetoric.
>>318050530
lol
>>318061956
Calling something a meme is like saying "I have no arguments" these days and admitting you can't proev your point in any way
>>318061476
Armored Core but slower.
>>318061629
I don't have the source for that one but here's another good one.
http://exhentai.org/g/530802/147aa1112f/
>implying is not a remake in the Bloodborne and DaS3 engine with added content
>>318043148
But i already played Demon's Souls like 20 years ago on PS3. Who would buy a HD rescale? Surely everyone who was interested in the game has played it on their ps3 already.
It's like 10$ on the PSN Store as well
>>318055210
>Relatable Ecchi Deliverer Sniper
>>318061747
It's a remaster of a console game fucktard. The very definition of a remaster is a game that was never on a platform to begin with getting ported over to it.
I think YOU might be retarded.
>hurr I'm not a mustard
>hurr sonygger
Oh so you're either a buttmad nintendrone or xbot, which makes you 10X worse than a mustard. Mustards atleast have a great platform to argue for. Drones and bots are just sore losers suffering from buyers remorse.
Pathetic.
>>318061819
Beats me. He's doing pvp in 4-1 or something.
>>318062171
>1080p DeS at 60fps
I'd rebuy it honestly if it was like 20-30 bucks.
>>318048669
same boat
>>318062139
Oh well never-mind it's the same one, I just didn't recognize that specific panel.
>>318062316
I don't know if you know how Demon's Souls is coded but unless they make major changes in how the zones load (Demon's souls loaded ENTIRE ZONES at once, from 1-1 - 1-X) there won't be no 60 fps.
>>318051369
>And so the nightly hunt begins.
Hey, did that line make it into the game? I don't remember it being said.
>>318062465
I wasn't aware they loaded the entire level zone at once.
>>318062092
I can prove my point by simply linking to a list of released ps4 games on metacritic.
You would then retort with one of two answers:
>those games are shit!
>those games don't count just because!
YOU'RE the one literally trying to warp reality with memes and flat out lies to try and discredit games out of existence. They DO exist, and people are buying them, and nothing you can say or do will change the FACT that your onegaem meme is buttmad horseshit, just like your life.
>>318061476
Turn it into Dead Space Souls, but with Bloodborne combat.
>>318060208
>Steam Controller
Haaaaahahahahaha
>>318062465
Why would that matter? It's impressive, but if the PS3 could do it and still maintain a decent framerate, there's no reason to immediately believe the PS4 couldn't do it at 60FPS.
>>318062465
If it did it on ps3 at 720- 30fps with some dips why could it still not do it on 1080p 60fps on ps4? The other games remastered ran similarly and were able to do it without changing how they were able to load. All this means is that it could be more well optimized.
>>318043339
>>318045901
>>318045989
>>318046160
>>318048039
nobody thinks that it's anything other than the fucking ps3 box, but that they would tweet a picture of it DOES imply something.
But will it come to PC?
>>318062234
You sound butthurt, the correct answer is:I own a somewhat decent PC, own PS3 and don't see anything worth buying PS4 for, at least yet, I also own a WiiU and a Vita, I'm an idort
Also there is in fact a difference here. DD was a game exclusive to one playerbase, now the same game is being ported to another playerbase, whereas with remasters the game remains with the original playerbase, but they want you to pay for it again. It all boils down to the lack of bacwards compatibility on PS4 really, we wouldn't have this shitty talk about remasters
>>318062596
>I can prove my point by simply linking to a list of released ps4 games on metacritic.
Okay, do it, but what exactly will you show me? Knack? A remaster of PS3 game? A qte movie like The Order? Telltale 2.0 Horror simulator, Until Dawn? Anon I'm sorry but we aren't talking about how many games there are on PS4, we are talking about games really worth owning and the ONLY game worth a damn on PS4 is Bloodborne
>>318062938
Yes, with remote play.
>>318061273
>6th archstone leads to lordran with improved latter half
>>318061273
>6th Archstone
>giants are so fucking huge that the last one you encounter is actually the whole fucking level and you have to crawl around inside it to get to its still beating heart and slay the archdemon possessing it
There's no other way to do giant slaying justice.
>Demon's Souls: Mended Tendency
>Full Remake only on PS4
>adds the final Archstone
>uses Bloodborne engine
You deserve a handsome reward.Only I have none! GAAH HA HA HAAA
>>318063609
>implying they will ever fix tendency if they actually do a PS4 remaster
>>318057146
Likely the material was recycled. See Windwaker, I doubt other companies do something different.
>>318063081
Holy shit thanks for proving my point. Not only did you list games, proving your onegaem meme bullshit, but then you literally posted exactly what I said you would:
>those are shit!
>those don't count just because!
I'm also guessing you don't count multiplats as games right? You're one of those people, right?
At this point, just tell me to go back to reddit. It's the only thing you have left to complete the circle of your retardation. Might as well get it out of the way.
>>318048916
People have repeatedly said that it feels like Dark Souls 1 but faster, aka Demon's Souls.
>>318063081
Ps3 and ps4 aren't necessarily the same playerbase. Alot of ps3 guys went pc, and alot of ps4 guys were 360 owners. Sony has literally acknowledged this.
You are reaching and making excuses. Dd is absolutely a remaster for pc, same as das would be for ps4. You are wrong, fuck yourself retard.
>>318064085
It's actually funny how your response to me shitting on remasters is "P-PC HAS REMASTERS TOO!", this pretyt much implies you can't defend them, get some better arguments, then we can talk
>>318064085
>>318063081
Oh and furthermore, alot of people who bought the cosole version of dd will buy the pc version, ie selling it to the same playerbase again, which is apparently a sin if consoles do it, but totally ok if pc does it.
>>318064248
I'm gonna pirate it.
>>318061747
A toddler? maybe a xboner? also the comparison you are making is worst, is just a fucking port of a old game yet you keks are excited for it, is the fucking same deal.
>>318064336
LoL well that's fine, but capcoms motivation is still to resell the game to the same playerbase that bought it the first time.
At least in Sonys case, a das remake would mostly benefit the people who never owned a ps3.
>>318056240
Yeah, the last SOULS game.
But this is BLOODBORNE.
Now did you realise the flaw in your logic?
>>318064512
Are you quoting a question with a answer that is making the same shit? no argument at all?
Miyazaki already said DS3 will be the last Souls game so no more Demon's Souls and no more Bloodborne
>>318063151
Honestly if they just tied DeS and DaS together like that, replacing the bonfire in Firelink with an archstone connector and tweaking a few things to make the games flow together, I would fly to Japan and blow Miyazaki, Kaz, and Shuhei at the same time, as well as giving them my anal virginity.
But I'm quite sure it will never happen.
>Remasterstation
This gen is fucking awful.
I knew it... a month ago I bought a PS3 just to play DeS.
>>318057709
Sure thing buddy.
>>318062138
You're so full of shit, AC plays nothing like Souls.
>>318062171
>Who would buy a HD rescale?
Maybe those who never played it and would like it to look as good as possible?
You know that the world doesn't revolve around you, right?
>>318063803
World tendency is perfectly fine the way it is.
>>318063603
>>318061273
but we already know what's in the 6th archstone...
a frozen land full of animal people
>>318065162
You just don't get it do you? Mimics in DaS 2 were made to be dps checks. You are supposed to kill them before they wake up. If you can't you are not properly equipped or leveled for that area. They are an insta kill if they touch you with their wake up animation. If they do wake up just fucking back off so that they don't touch you and dispatch them quickly from a distance or with a proper weapon.
tl:dr: Get Good.
>>318065271
>>318061476 wants to know how souls with projectile would work. I said it could be like AC but with less emphasis on boosting thus slower speed.
>>318065670
1/10
>>318064913
>unless the remaster/game ends up on pc, like dragons dogma, then it's ok
>>318065162
>There are people out there who legitimately defend shit like this
>>318065670
>They are an insta kill if they touch you
...or if they don't.
>>318043693
yeah, BB idn't even a souls game
>>318065162
Pretty sure all the mimic stuff including that webm with DSP was patched soon after the release. Would go to check, but by the time I'm back the thread would be dead.
Still gonna check for the sake of it, brb.
>>318066074
>clearly getting touched.
He should have killed it before the wake up. If he gets touched anywhere he is dead. How the animation works. IF you know you don't got the DPS back off and concentrate your faculties cus you gotta brace up.
>>318063803
>fix tendency
there is nothing to fix, it works as intended
>>318066112
>Pretty sure all the mimic stuff including that webm with DSP was patched soon after the release.
Are you joking? They never patched it. I tested it out again recently, still there.
Seriously, try it. Go behind a mimic and attack it a few times without killing it. When it wakes up you'll be magically teleported two feet in front of it to get eaten by it.
DSII is a product of sheer ineptitude. Absolutely disgraceful.
>>318057160
this, when will people learn this
>>318066028
Remasters in itself are not bad. But we are so early in this gen and every few months we have either a remaster or a sequel. We need IP's.
>>318066267
>clearly getting touched
You need better glasses.
>How the animation works
Which is bullshit, not because it's "hard", but because it's completely illogical and obviously unintended.
>>318066074
>and people still say this game is worth playing
>>318043148
What in the fuck are you mongoloids even talking about?
It's literally a picture of NOTHING! And who the fuck would want a remake or sequel of Demon Souls in the first place? You already played the game, there is nothing else to see, and the story and world building was forgettable even back then all it had going for it was the setting.
>>318066615
He did get touched by the chest itself he haw too close. He should have backed off with that dex weapon. These webm always feature people shit at the game. I can't take them seriously. I don't care what shitters think.
>>318066615
>Which is bullshit, not because it's "hard", but because it's completely illogical and obviously unintended.
It's gameplay over realism. Coupled with probably not enough dev time since they scrapped it mid development. Then they just went with it.
>>318067031
I'm not that guy but I'm curious do today's kids know who bugs bunny is?
>>318067185
I think so. Or at least they still make new shit with him.
Why are you people getting so excited over the possibility of paying to play the same exact game again?
>>318067543
Some people haven't played it before.
>>318065605
>>318065605
keke is this true?
>>318067464
Oh, God, the new iterations of old cartoons. I can't begin to imagine.
>>318054653
This.
I played them all and Demon's Sould will remain in my top 5 vidya of all time.
The experience I had with it at the time I came out while the Souls series was still not a shitty maymay thrown around by normies. In fact no obnoxious Petiton Cückold Race or Xbuttlickers nowhere to be seen made it something special, something unique. A once in a lifetime experience.
I got goosebumbs playing that game back then. The twist on online-multiplayer was like nothing ever before it and it was like nothing after it.
Once I encountered a Japanese player and we went on an amazing journey, at the end he dropped me a gift, bowed down and disappeared, leaving me a message over PSN saying "good luck". That was so powerful and overwhelming at the time I will never forget it for the rest of my life.
>Touch the demon inside me
>>318067893
http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/unused-content
>all those unused beast enemies
Project Beast has roots in Demon's Souls
Are they related? Could such a thing even be possible?
>>318065162
>>318066112
>>318066309
Ok, so the stuff from the webm definitely doesn't work anymore. I was standing in the exact same spot as the hexer from the video (pay attention to that crack/darker piece of stone to the left of my character on the first two pics) and on multiple occasions mimic refused to grab me. I was using throwing knifes, so there should not be a difference in this either, projectile is a projectile. Had to also fucking run to the bonfire each time to reset the mimic.
But I can confirm that you do get grabbed if you stand to the sides of the mimic, although for some reason only when your character is so close his knees touch the chest. Step a centimeter back and it wont work, I dunno why.
Intredasting stuff, overall. Really puzzled why I couldn't make him grab me like on whe webm.
>>318068131
>In fact no obnoxious Petiton Cückold Race or Xbuttlickers nowhere to be seen made it something special, something unique.
oh wow and they say mustards are bad
>>318066309
Mentioning this, I recently got some shit happening in BB.
I got into a circular room where I couldn't see the ceiling, and I went through the very edge of it because I was scared. I almost got the other side when I was teleported to the top of the room and some spooky big skeleton grabbed me and killed me. Like, literally just teleport.
The fuck was that about? I'm talking about a teleporting distance about 15-30 times the amount that mimic webm showed.
I doubt it'll be remastered.
Earlier this year, Sony said it'd be really tough to bring it to PS4 because the original is locked in publishing rights hell.
Sony own the Japanese publishing rights to Demon's Souls
Altus own the American publishing rights to Demon's Souls
Namco Bandai own the European publishing rights to Demon's Souls
Apparently there'd need to be either the selling of rights or a mutual agreement between all three parties before DeS:HD becomes real.
>>318043148
>PS4 babbies will get based Demon's Souls
This is bullshit
>>318069019
Sonnygers are cancer. I'm loving BB, but god damn they are the most obnoxious cunts around, only surpassed by the furfags shilling tumblrtale.
>>318043148
I can see it already:
Demon's Souls: 5 bucks per month on top of what you already paid: Ultimate Edition
>>318069019
It is true though. Demon's Souls threads were the comfiest this place has ever had and it went all to shit with Dark Souls going multiplat.
Deal with it.
>>318069540
Seeing it is all you'll be able to do, PKek.
>>318069281
I think Souls crowd is still the worst, for several reasons:
1. git gud memery - which is the worst type of hugbox behavior on 4chan
2. actually thinking Souls games are demanding and worse, taking pride in a difficulty of a fucking video game (some PC Master Race air of superiority here).
3. the influx of 'lore' videos and longform college graduates(?) reading extremely simplistic 'scholarly' essays or nonsensical observation of something so simple as a video game mechanics, often for hours on end.
4. every indiefag using it as a crutch for their kickpatreon.
>>318068705
SAAAAAUSE!.Just tell me if it's those two doujins everyone already knows or something new
I'll never agree with DaS2 being a good game, it feels like that one bad anime spin off. Like Darker than Black season 2.
>>318048379
>he thinks game development, let alone porting a game takes no effort
>he thinks 1-2 million of profit is a lot for a huge video game company
>>318070418
as for undertale, at first i thought it was the same as it was with the lisa guy shilling his game endlessly, but then it became clear furries came back from their containment board.
anyway, i've learned to stay the hell away from any discussion involving 'feels'.
>>318070418
I had a feeling it wasn't once I took a second look at it. Thanks, anon. I'll look into it but my hype levels lowered a fair bit.I'll look at it out of respect. Can't dis on people who deliver
>>318056959
It's definitely got some jank to the way it feels which is one of the reasons why I prefer Dark 1 over Demon's. It just feels so much better.
>>318069925
Why'd you have to bring up season 2
>>318070418
Was the bra too lewd for the Christian board?
>>318045364
Literally the only two games that deserve a remaster from last gen as of now.
I would rather have Bloodborne 2 because Souls just doesn't cut it for me anymore, but Demon's Souls will always have a special place in my heart.
>>318053531
>making a fatal dagger, tearing rapier, and poison rapier with a baby nail
>causing bleed, plague, poison and sneaking around with the thief ring they heal then backstabbing for 3/4s of their health
>>318070293
lol /v/ thinks game development works just by throwing money at it and hiring people until the problem is solved. /v/ has no idea what the term diminishing returns means except when they're stunlocking someone in WoW
>>318070702
Now I lost it sorry, anon, who delivered. Can you just give me the artist name again?
Did you guys Like this character from DaS 2?
>>318070869
sjw mod got told on /a/ so now he's been sperging on other boards.
The best part about Demon's souls was how the atmosphere was palpable.
>you could close your eyes and yet still instantly know which level you were in
That plus the best soundtrack and more experimental bosses make it hold a special place in my heart.
That being said, DaS's fucking open world was the greatest change in the franchise, which they never managed to master again. You could see your bloodstain from different zones, it was just too good.
>>318056403
That was just the excuse because they had a deadline and couldn't finish it.
There is cut content on the disc and people have already accessed it. Look for it on youtube.
>>318062316
>1080p
>60fps
this kills the console
If DeS comes out i will forsake pc gaming and return to consoles.
DeS > DaS > BB > DaS II
Oh god just imagine being able to be the Old Monk once more and teaching newfriends how to git gud with the scraping spear and hyper archer twinks with the online blooming once again.
God, I can only cum so much.
Do it, Sony, just fucking do it.
>>318066615
these shockwave webms are mysterious to me
played the game for 700+hours and haven't experienced shit like this once.
Is my game bugged or something?
>>318071645
No, you're just unobservant.
>>318066615
Your hitbox collided with his hurtbox, that ring doesn't make you invulnerable during it's duration. Once your i-frames run out and your hitbox colides with his hurt box you will be grabbed. Thats how it works in souls games.
I hate DaS2 but I hate it for being a bad game, I don't have to come up with extra bullshit to prove it's bad.
>>318071063
Omg did he get banned? I bet he got banned for the link. JEESUS.
No love for Alsanna, Silent Oracle I think she was a very cool character a nice change from the previous daughters of Dark
>>318057421
>I have no idea why they keep fucking up the online system when DeS had it fine
Because these babies who started gaming on the 7th gen, which is a gen where every game must treat them like they're special and remind them how awesome they are every 5 seconds otherwise they lose interest, are the majority now. Just look at this place, people crying like fucking bitches because WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WAS KILLED ONCE WHEN I WAS A NOOB BY A GUY WITH ENDGAME WEAPONS WAAAAAAAAA I'M BEING OPPRESSED WAAAAAAAA. Now imagine Reddit, neogaf and the other hugboxes.
This is the audience now, babies who just so happened to start gaming a few years ago.
>>318068793
thats a nice frozen castle
too bad it looks only 40% done and not the land of giants (as the loading pics showed)
>the northrent front 1
>Grievers upset they can't grieve
hilarious for some reason
>>318050214
Holy fuck this looks great. I'm made of jelly
>>318068793
>wikidot
I miss when people used good websites for souls content. Fuck fextralife.
>>318071932
I never realize what you had till you lose it. Is there someone else who knows the sauce?
Why didn't the Emerald Herald get the same love like Maiden in Black did? Was it the feet? The lack of accent? Or because you have to WAIT before you use the level up menu while Maiden in Black lets you level up while she talks. That was the biggest step back for me personally.
>>318050214
>All that Dark Souls II shit.
Not an actual fan of the series, I see.
>>318072419
I thought there was a wikidot for Bloodborne?
>>318072360
I can't even recognize half the boxes. I didn't know so many different versions/stuff was out.
>>318069019
I love this logic
>if insult the cancer, you're cancer
I find it really funny the amount of people I run into who think they are really smart because they throw around "no u" to everything they don't have a proper reply to.
Because yeah sure, I guess we should send a thank you card for the people who completely destroyed what was once one of the best and self-contained gaming communities out there, I guess.
>>318043148
That looks hilariously fake.
>sonyggers actually celebrate and become excited about remasters nowadays instead of asking for new games
How low have the mighty fallen..
>>318043148
>Kill Maiden Astraea again
I can't do it.
I can't. I'm not the bad guy...
>>318072682
There is but its pretty shit and lacking information.
>>318072845
It was posted on the official Bloodborne Twitter, but it doesn't necessarily mean anything.
>>318072883
>meanwhile pkeks think indie shit like undertale is good
Kek
>>318072883its ok when sony does it
>>318072883
>>sonyggers
I know I'm retarded for even replying but Bloodborne really is an amazing game, pushed even further byt he recent DLC. If you like video games and you're a fan Demon's Souls I don't know why you wouldn't be excited about this.
>>318072578
Oh fuck off, faggot
>>318073167
>indies on pc are bad, but everything's ok when sony does it!
>>318072883
>sonyggers
>mighty
>EVER in history
Forty thousand KEKS. Bet it was a light fall. Like from the sidewalk.
>>318071850
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't miss something like that.
It happens in PvP in every fifth fight tho.
THE NETCODE IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE NETCODE!
>>318073270
Hey don't talk to him like that, he is right.
>>318073369
Indies are shit, my point is every fanbase has terrible taste you console war loving fuck
>>318048294
source
>>318073269
you could just play it on your old ps3, it's not like there's going to be any difference. pc related, it's fallout 4 (you know.. the game that came out recently)
>>318073698
Source is: if that guy can lie so can he.
Guys, a girl just said to me Fallout 4 is way better than Bloodborne because of the story.
I haven't played either but that sounds retarded, can someone give me a quick sumarizing of Fallout 4s story? I know Bloodbornes story.
>>318073497
You're shit, your tastes are shit and your beliefs are shit.
>>318066479
IPs you probably won't buy
>>318068131
>if you play on PC then you didn't play DES
>he thinks the DAS memes only started when it came to PC
>there was no PRAISE LE SUN on the console version at all
right dude epic shit, game was only good when I could play with grorious nippon players
I play on PS4 because Sony is nippon and therefore sugoi
>>318073907
fo4=your son is older than you and you either kill him for his sins or don't
bb=it was aliens all along
>>318073907
I don't even understand Bloodborne's story and I think it's better than FO4's. Pretty much anything beats FO4's story.
>>318072985
Yeah I just looked at it, what the fuck happened? The DeS and DS wikidots are fucking spectacular.
>>318073907
games aren't better because the story is less shit than another game
>>318074031
the DaS memes didn't get forced to shit until the PC version came out, they existed, but they weren't fucking ruined until the PC-only audience got a hold of them and finally understood them.
>>318074058
That FO4 story sounds retarded.
>>318055528
Demon souls' online server was shutdown, so It's actually a pretty good idea. Also I want another chromehounds.
>>318074031
What exactly did you try to say with your post?
Also what's with that awful smell of hurting butts all of a sudden?
>>318074173
I remember being 13yr olds too, and not knowing shit about what happened in the world before I felt part of it too. It was a great time in my life. Not giving a fuck about reality and living in my own little bubble was amazing desu
>>318071063
Inoue Makito.
>>318074286
so does "it wus aliens lol"
>>318074360
>Demon souls' online server was shutdown
since when
>>318074360
>Demon souls' online server was shutdown
No it wasn't you faggot I just played it last month and it was still pretty active.
>>318050916
>Devil may cry text
>>318050214
this is cringe worthy
>>318072905
Take your precious demon's soul.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ESqvGzdnvs
>>318074173
>memes are only bad when another platform understands them
this isn't like 4chan memes where you see fucking Pepe on your Facebook feed
it's a fucking video game and more people played it on consoles than on PC regardless
you act like it went mainstream when it didn't transition to a larger user base
weebs are some weird ass people
>muh anime was only good before it got localized and now people know about it so it's not cool anymore
>>318074686
Atlus was supposed to shut it down twice already with big build-ups to it so lots of players think it's still off.
>>318074448
>Inoue Makito.
Thanks Anon! I'm so happy you are with us.
>>318074950
Pretty sure they're just going to be on indefinitely now. Or at least for another 5 years I'd reckon. They've made so much fucking bank of the series they could easily afford it.
>>318069281
THIS SO FUCKING MUCH! If that is the part of the community that constantly complains how "PC' ruined it" then it truly is the WORST part of the community. I feel around them the same way they claim they felt when Mustards got the game.
>>318069062
You need more insight senpai
>>318052943
Jebbus Chist, whole point is that PS3 was in such a shitty place when Demons Souls came out, it was like second revelation for all Sonyponys..
And this comes from an die hard Sony cocksucker until end of PS2 era...
I didnt bought PS3 at start, but as time went by i had less and less reasons to buy any console,
Im proud non-ovner of console since 2001.
MUSTARDS ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!! ;)
I PLAY GAMES, I DONT DWELL ON KOREAN IMAGEBOARD WHOLE DAY
LAMENTING HOW SOME GAME IS SHIT OR NOT...
>play Dark Souls
>drop at Bed of Chaos, just lost interest
>proceed to try Demon Souls
>had a blast all the way through
I don't really understand.
>>318075274
Atlus hasn't.
>>318075274
Well, not Atlus. All they did was publish one game (the least popular one) in one region.
>>318075517
Favorite world, senpai?
Boletaria is probably the best level in the series for me.
>>318075517
DaS seriously drops in enjoyment after finishing Anal Rodeo, its actually jarring how unenjoyable it gets looking back on it now.
>>318075517
>he couldn't pass bed of chaos
>>318075694
Tower of Latria, of course. Also best boss battle after False King Allantwhom I managed to kill on the first try. Man, was that intense..
>>318075517
Bed of Chaos is literally just memorization of how the floor collapses.
>>318076141
the fight doesnt even reset when you die
i dont know how you could get stuck on that
>>318075925
>>318076141
I'm sure I would've killed it but... I don't know, I just lost interest. I tried going to other areas but it didn't feel any better. I tried both on PS3 and then on PC, but I just couldn't go on.
>>318074173
>>318068131
Ahh console only players. Never change I see.
Check this totally not obnoxious pic. Yeah, console community was the best of the best. No inferiority complex there at all.
>>318076340
>I would've killed it
you don't kill it, you just jump on a branch under the floor and walk forward and you're done.
>>318076343
sauce
>>318076514
Well, I would've done whatever I needed to progress, doesn't matter. Almost 3 years have passed after all.
>>318076343
>it will have loli mods
so where are they?
>>318076532I am deeply sorry I do not have it :(
Console "friends" were always the same. Oh, how their view on DaS changed once it went multiplat. Then it was all DeS vs DaS. Now they are doing the same thing with BB.
All those cúck memes... we used to call themNTRback in the day
>>318076821
This. Where did netorare go and why is there this cancer instead?
>>318076343
>console community
Remember that ps3 and xbox360 opened the flood gates to all sorts of mass consumerist trash and they brought that mentality into gaming. Pic related, its' consolefags killing each other for a dvd printed with GTAV when it first came out
>>318076950
Kek is a normalfag friendly alternative, of course it would become more popular on a board like /v/.
>>318076950
Blame ghetto nigger shit replacing everything pure and Nippon like always. At least we have
baka desu sempai against it.
>>318043148
Dark Souls III will be the last Souls game, so it won't be a sequel, but that doesn't mean a remaster couldn't happen. Although, if they do that, then I'm going to be butthurt if they don't also port Dark Souls 1 to PS4.
>>318077567
>then I'm going to be butthurt if they don't also port Dark Souls 1 to PS4.
Stop being so entitled. Why should ALL the games be on one platform? On YOUR platform.
>>318073770
>ps3
weak bait
>PSX announcement is actually Bloodborne x Demon's Souls
>Elder Gods fucking with everything
>Knights and hunters teaming up
>Trick weapons and traditional *Souls weapons
>Bloodtinge for guns and Magic/faith for spells
>>318077863
If reality is "bait" then, yes I'm "baiting" the living shit out of you
>>318077794
Jesus, calm the fuck down. I forgot Dark Souls was a multiplat, since I own it on PS3. I just want to be able to ay Demon's AND Dark SoulsI-III on next gen with my buddies.
>>318073489
>Hey don't talk to me like that, I am right
>>318046074
you are fucking retarded
>>318077054
Yep. DeS fags lament on the times when they had the best community when they were like 10 people playing the game. It was fucking SMALL. I have been before in small communities. They are the best. Cozy, polite, helpful. It has nothing to do with what platform it was on. It's hot niche games are. If it was a niche on xbox or PC it would have been the same. I know because I have experienced it.
It this case mourning over the time the community was small is retarded because a community of that size can't justify the continuation of the series. But those people are so STUCK UP that I'm sure they would be happy if DeS was the only Souls game ever made and only them knowing about it.
>>318078238
Then get a:^))Xbone
>>318078689
This. It blows my mind how sonnygers delude themselves into thinking otherwise.
>>318043148
whats this OP? a picture of all the good ps4 exclusives?
>>318077794
Stop acting like a drama queen you fuck.
>>318079258
Demon's Souls is a PS4 exclusive?
>>318078689
>DeS
>Small
What the fuck are you smoking anon? Even on /v/, DeS had a rolling 24/7 general of constant activity for years. It was one of the reasons /vg/ was created. The community around the first game, even in general, wasn't small in any sense of the word.
>>318077794
hello tumblr
>>318079346
>activity means big
And no, Demons souls had nothing to do with why /vg/ was created. Even the stalker generals were bigger and they had nothing to do with why it was created. It was because of star craft 2, LoL and other esports shit and katawa shoujo. They would burn through 10-20 threads in the time a DeS thread or stalker thread hit cap and over half of their threads wouldn't even be bumped off the board yet before NEW THREAD
>>318079637
Not him but the DeS comminity was active AND big.
The game wasn't even supposed to come to the west, but so many talked about it that it made a difference.
To this day, I still feel Demon's Souls was the best one.
I mean, yeah, 1-3 and 2-4 can go fuck themselves, but it was still the best overall game out of the four Souls games that I've played. Dark Souls had a lot of extra bullshit that wasn't in Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 2 had a completely different design philosophy that made it weird to play. Bloodborne feels really good to play and I think it has the best gameplay out of the four.
Remaster if anything, they're not gonna announce / tease a sequel with DaS III coming out in March.
>>318079789
We imported the asia edition and talked Atlus into it. "talking" about it did nothing but drum up more attention from people who actually bothered importing it.
I mean shit I got it because I like from's games and was just crossposting from AC4A threads.
>>318079346
Oh, shut up, brain dead retard. You fucks will never own up to the absolute fact that Dark Souls was only possible because it was multiplat. It was a carefully measured investment that considered cost and risk. They weren't sure what will happen. Made the console version to check interest and then when it caught on brought it to PC as well. Sony at the time had their head in their butt. The success of DaS1 finally made them notice and then they contracted From for BB. Without PC and Xbox you would have never received DaS1 neither BB.
You like to live in your fantasy world where if enough time passed Sony would have come around and made Demon's Souls 2 even tho they thought nothing on the IP you delusional faggot.
>>318079812
What's wrong with 1-3?
>>318079637
One of the reasons implies that it's not the only one. LoL threads could have been moving at the speed of light for all it mattered, but the DeS general was still greatly populated, and easily maintained enough activity to constantly keep it plastered on the front page along with all of the other big generals.
>>318080041
> Without PC and Xbox you would have never received DaS1
ayyy
>>318079812
but 1-3 was one of the only good levels you double nigger
>>318080041
>Without PC and Xbox you would have never received DaS1 neither BB
>>318074686
Active? Really? I mean I think I logged in a couple months ago and it was a ghost town. Nothing in 4-2, no soul signs in sight.
>>318043148
That is the worst shoop I have ever seen.
Are souls fags really this dumb?
>>318080041
Did you quote the wrong person?
>>318080050
>>318080217
Enemy placement was just a learning curve for me. It's a fun level once you figure things out no doubt, but 1-3 was the particular level that gave me PTSD.
>>318080328
wat
>>318043435
>Bloodborne 2
yiss plz
>>318080190
>>318080256
This is how delusional sony fags are. They think Dark Souls and Souls could have been only theirs. Stay delusional you ungrateful maggots.
>>318080380I might have. Whats it to you?
>>318080041
This is untrue, even documented. DeS sold like 2mil, and was made on a shoestring. Sony was probably pushing for an exclusive deal after DeS went on to experience success, but at that point From had obligations to Namco. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Sony turned From into a 1st party golden goose.
>>318080389
I can see where you're coming from. That last stretch with the 3 red-eyed knights was fucking overkill.
>>318080608
You realize that Dark Souls was ported on PC only one year after the first release right?
And that they started BB along with AoTA?
>>318080608
They might be calling you out on being a retard because PC was quite literally an afterthought, and the 360 version never sold as well.
>>318080190
>>318080256
Demon's Souls is still the least played game that the least amount of people played. You shits like to think like you were relevant. In truth Bamco took a risk that no company would have if it wasn't for the best case scenario projected multiplat sales. PC was always planned they just didn't want to commit funds because of uncertainty. It could have flopped. It's just business.
>>318081009
>PC was always planned
Source?
>>318079812
>that gif
2007 pls comeback..
>>318080746
>>318080972
>And that they started BB along with AoTA?
Yes it did. It was at the point where it was evident that DeS wasn't a fluke and that there is potential in the genre. Do you thing it is a coincidence BB and PC begat at the same time. Still even BB was a risk.
>>318080041
>>318081009
this is how deluded mustards are
>>318081217
>Do you thing it is a coincidence BB and PC begat at the same time
Yes, since BB was specifically requested and funded by Sony.
>Still even BB was a risk
For who?
>>318081217
How DeS was a risk when they released at least 4 King's Field games and 2 Shadow Tower before? Most of the initial DeS fanbase came from King's Field.
But probably you never knew that because those are Playstation exclusives.
>>318043148
The whole PS4 Library in one picture.
>>318055528
Not even a Sonygger but the Demon's Souls servers were killed off a few years back.
Remaster would not only restore online functionality, but improved graphics and HIGHLY NEEDED improved frame rate.
Shit could dip as low as like 12fps in some areas.
>>318081095
The fact it actually exists. Don't you know anything about business? Do you think that petition MADE them as in FORCED them to make it? First they invest an amount on consoles for development calculating risk, to see what will happen and how it will sell. Fist PS for the core audience then xbox. If it flops then they cut their losses and move on. If it succeeds and it DID then step two is to invest a sum for the PC port. And the struck gold. A risk that paid off.
>>318081547
>Demon's Souls
>PS4 library
You can't even meme right.
>>318075680
>>318075612
All the same doesn't Atlus have infinite money from all of the P4 spinoff material? They can afford it, and it would probably be bad PR for them to kill such a beloved game.
>>318081440
>when they released at least 4 King's Field games and 2 Shadow Tower before
those games wouldnt exist without the DaS PC release
those games were made with the DaS PC release in mind
>>318081572
>the Demon's Souls servers were killed off a few years back.
Blatantly false.
>>318081668
FROMSOFT WAS FUNDED WITH DAS PC RELASE IN MIND!
>>318081637
Oh I see, so the source is your little fantasy story, thanks for clarifying.
>>318081440
You are retard. Don't you realize the lack of a western version and only JP release means a lack of faith. Then the Asian version. Then it was just a smart business move by Atlus and Bamco.
>>318043148
Not lying but I'd play the shit out of this.
>re-release already released game exclusively on a platform where the majority of customers most likely already played said game in its first release form anyways
what a dumb move that would be, don't count on it, and if it happens , don't count on PS4 exclusivety
>>318081867
Okey console boy give me your version of history since u so bright.
>>318082049
>don't count on PS4 exclusivety
Of course not, it's on PS3 too.
>>318082049
>don't count on PS4 exclusivety
yeah a sony owned IP
what else are they gonna release it on? vita?
>>318082104
The console version sold well so the decided to make the most half-assed pc port ever for some quick extra cash.
>never had a ps3
>always shit posted in demons souls threads because honestly compared to dark souls (just V I S U A L L Y alone it looks like absolute horse shit)
>now maybe get a chance to paly it myself
>mite b cool
k, keep me posted
>>318081009
>>318081009
Try Google and some critical thinking.
One of the higher ups in Japan Studio said not publishing DeS was a "huge mistake."
A mistake they won't make again I'm guessing.
If you really think Sony wasn't wheeling and dealing for a chance to have exclusivity on further From games, you're retarded. They were hunting for an exclusive deal probably as early as 2010.
Sony is going to tighten the leash on From, mark my words.
>>318081957
>the lack of a western version and only JP release
>King's Field 2: NA February 14, 1996
>King's Field 3: NA November 20, 1996
>King's Field 4: NA March 25, 2002
>Shadow Tower: NA October 31, 1999
B-b-but no western release!
>>318082049
>the majority of customers
>~2m copies of DeS sold
>30m PS4s, a huge chunk of which comes from X360
>>318048045
Nah, he said that for Dark Souls.
In which case I agree with him.
Bloodborne feels like it could have another game or two up its alley, with all of the potential lore out there.
>>318081440
>>318081668
>>318081795
Are you dense? Do you have any idea what budged those games had and what budged is required for modern games like DeS and then DaS more so? For BB and DaS? With each gen budgets required to make games with up to date visuals increase. It becomes harder to take risks and invest that money that's why you see less and less big budged exclusives expect if you have a smaller proven formula like Souls proved to be and led to BB. But it got proven precisely because it went multiplat. Each gen you will see less and less big budged exclusive, especially new IP that are not in any way died to previous similar games. Like oh, it's happening right now.
>>318082298
And how does that refute anything of what I said? Dark Souls only came to be because they had all those possibilities in mind. It was best case scenario for them and it happened,
>>318082104
>From and Japan Studio develop DeS, likened to King's Field, Shadow Tower, and even borrowing from other company franchises like Tenchu.
>Sony declines publishing it outside of Japan and let's From vet it out to whoever they can find.
>From make a deal with Atlus who proceed to release it in the west for 2mil+.
>Namco takes initiative and publishes DeS in the EU and offers From new multi-game deal for a new but samey franchise; Dark Souls.
>Sony sees this and gets salty, with one of the heads of Japan Studio even publicly admitting it was a mistake not to publish Demon's Souls.
>Namco publishes a very rushed Dark Souls to PS3/360 in Fall 2011 with great success; rev up those PC petitions.
>Namco sees PC as an untapped market and From goes back into development for DLC, Dark Souls 2, while being buttered up by Sony for a PS4 exclusive.
>AotA is repackaged and resold as a goty version on consoles, while released on Steam with great success.
>From splinters development between Dark Souls 2 and Bloodborne for Sony, and begins conceptualizing the last game in the Dark Souls series.
Something like that.